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people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm Marquez and I'm
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Andrew and this week we've got a bunch of interesting Mega company stuff to talk about we have some metaverse
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thoughts and I've I've we have a video out on the metaverse now we can dive into the Weeds on that we can go into uh
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some smartphone features that we might miss a little bit of a game I hear and then also we're gonna wrap it all up
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with everyone's favorite trivia so be sure to wait till the end but first can Elon turn Twitter into an s-tier
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social media is that so I have like two things to talk about do you want to go straight off of your tweet on Twitter
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platform I guess that's a good yeah so you tweeted uh was it last night it was
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last night I guess first we have to just mention just in case you haven't heard Elon has about Twitter good useful
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background information yes there's lots of social media platforms out there Twitter publicly held company had a
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bunch of leadership Elon Musk swoops in buys Twitter I I don't know if it would
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he swooped multiple uh it's very confusing there's a reason we haven't really covered it because it's been all
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over the place complicated yeah um yeah there would be days where we would think about talking about it and then we didn't and then the next day everything
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changed so it's it's hard even some of the stuff today we're recording on Tuesday what we say today might not be
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true on Friday there's a pretty good chance that this episode comes out and there's something else that happened imagine elon's not even the owner by
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Friday so it wouldn't be surprised as of this recording he walked in with a sink and said let that sink in and I think
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we're just gonna go ahead and say he's he's in he's in he's he's in he's doing
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things but really my question so I tweeted uh last night
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YouTube is maybe it's a hot take I don't know if it's a hot take I didn't actually think it was that hot of a take but it got some reactions
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YouTube is still the only s tier social media platform I don't think it's a hot
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take we've talked about it before and we agreed I think the reason it felt like a hot take there is because you posted it
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on Twitter which like when you post it on a site that site will probably defend it and right posted it on Instagram I'm
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pretty sure Instagram fans would have said hey this is not so bad out here no one would have seen it because there would have been 40 suggested posts
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before and no one would they would have left the stories because reels and ads would have gotten in the way
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um I guess I'll just explain why I said it which is like obviously I've been making YouTube videos for a long time
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there's a bunch of different perspectives that that make a a platform or a social media site s tier for me it
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has to be from the viewer platform there's lots of content it has to be from the Creator side lots of tools lots
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of advertising Revenue opportunities and things like that and they all sort of merge together into like a place that
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people actually enjoy spending time and using it Twitter's pretty good but like much
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fewer people use it and it doesn't have nearly as many good useful tools especially if you're trying to build a
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business on it that's one of the things I consider important for a social media platform Facebook we all know about that
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meta's creation used to be very highly thought of and now is sort of a a back I
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mean this is people my age would say yeah it's a background account you don't
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delete because you still only know certain people through what they post on Facebook exactly like family members and
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stuff um you know there's Instagram we know what that is there's Tick Tock we know what that is there's Snapchat maybe a
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little underrated but we know what that is and what it was be real have you used be real we've um we've used it in the
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office before but it was months and months ago so it was very buggy it seems
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like it's fixed some of it and part of me wants to start with some of the people in the office again okay um I do
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know people that use it I do think it's an I've said before I actually think it's a really good idea it feels like
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the what beam could have been right um I I actually think it's really cool
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but again I I think Instagram or Tick Tock or someone have already tried to steal it and they're going to steal it giving me notifications already exactly
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if I were b-roll be real I would get acquired right now so they don't turn into like Clubhouse which was should
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have gotten acquired but they didn't and yeah now that's the that's the argument remember that question that age little
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question is it a feature or a platform Clubhouse turns out it's a feature it's
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just built into seven other things now yep um but I don't want to straight too too far away from here because I kind of
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wanted to focus this on Twitter and while we don't first of all what tier would you put Twitter in if YouTube's
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asked here good question current Twitter current Twitter is C tier okay I heart
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agree with you on that one I would like to disagree but I think we're both kind of on the same page here and I think
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let's say some hypotheticals of what we think could make Twitter s tier yeah so
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like Elon Elon being a part of it now has a lot of people hoping things are going to change with it yes keep in mind it's still a public company still has to
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like try to run as a business and make decisions that float it as a company and
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maybe make money someday yeah so that's still gonna have to happen in the background but yeah I think one of the
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things we hope to see more is well I'm gonna say more features just as like a
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blanket thing like it's Twitter has started as super simple you would just text it and it would post for you and it
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had to be 140 characters or less now there's photos now there's videos now there's polls and all sorts of things
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obviously you can follow people maybe maybe there's more features to Twitter that that sort of work in the Twitter sphere
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um trending topics and and being a video platform can evolve like we have
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Instagram reels Tick Tock YouTube shorts and Twitter is just kind of like you can
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upload videos yeah and if you find like you follow people who upload videos and that's the only way you'll see videos
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but maybe they can Surface videos more than just trending topics um yeah I don't know that's that's sort
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of the base stuff that comes out of my head quick side note Twitter's a private company now now all right
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bought them and it's still trading on the is it actually it was taken off Thursday I believe
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okay I'll double check but again are you sure it's a private either way they gotta make money yeah we'll see what
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happens they're and and we're saying they have to make money knowing that Elon has already tweeted like Twitter's
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I'm not buying this to make money like sure he can say that as many times as he wants ultimately even if he doesn't want
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to like make record profits with it in order to keep it alive it has to make money and that's something we'll talk
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about in a couple minutes because there's a few other things he said that we want to talk about but right now if we're talking about what Twitter could
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do better um I like your idea of features and when I think of videos like I wouldn't want
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it to go straight into like reels and like you know swiping through a million videos at a time but it would be really
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cool if somehow like popular tweets that you were looking at that had a lot of Engagement or even popular videos that
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were in those tweets had some sort of like I could see suggested videos that are similar to it of other tweets that
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are on the platform being able to very quickly go into other sides of the platform to see what other people are
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thinking yeah yeah that's like that's like an old YouTube thing like yeah you finish a video and more videos
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suggestions yeah related videos that's a super obvious one um and also what was I I was just about
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to say something oh spam oh yeah sure there's like so much of a there's obviously a Spam problem and maybe we'll
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talk about the verification thing in a second but the uh the problem of like a popular user tweeting and then a bunch
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of impersonating accounts also were swooping into the replies and scamming people that would be nice if it was less
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rampant YouTube's had to deal with this too they've done a really good job lately it took them a little while it
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took some booking it took enough of like YouTuber creators speaking up about it I
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made a video just about comment spam but as of today it's much better than it was
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so they eventually got around to figuring it out and they continue to evolve because you know spammers don't
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just sit still they're going to try to figure out better ways to get around it exactly so you know there's something to that yeah I would I would say real quick
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one more like ultimately and this is something that's not going I don't know how they're going to solve it but the I
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think the biggest issue with Twitter is just it is seemingly one of the smaller social media sites in terms of active
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users and it has to grow somehow it's really weird it is true that it has a small user base
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of people relative to the other giants like if you compare it to YouTube Facebook
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Tick Tock whatever Instagram but it seems like everyone important is
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already on it I think that makes sense the thing is it almost feels to me like the people who are on it are people
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trying to follow other people that they are either like fans of or want news
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from or like like so I'm on it because the tech space right now I like to follow everyone in Tech but then I'm
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also making sure I'm following a lot of publishing things like The Verge and all the other Tech blogs and it feels like
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I'm trying to like just keep tabs on different people influencers like large
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creators conversations pretty much or what they're thinking it's not like a personal thing almost right but less
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like people you know in real life but there is very few people I know in real life that I'm conversing with there it's
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General because those people I have those are Facebook those are Instagram stuff like that like normally I would
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say that that's how you get more people to get onto a platform is you need to get more of the like big Publishers and
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like interesting people to to join so that it makes regular people want to join but it seems like instead of like
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maybe Facebook for example let's say all your friends are on it but you don't really care about following the New York Times on Facebook if you think of like
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any publisher they have a Twitter and they tweet all their stuff that's what I like and if you think of any almost any
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celebrity or politician specifically they all have a Twitter and they all
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Tweet stuff and then regular people quote those tweets and share those
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tweets and those tweets become news and like when an Earthquakes strikes somewhere the first place I find out about it is like boom seven new tweets
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showed up at the top of my timeline they're all people from the same area that felt the earthquake like that's how breaking news happens usually in my
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world so I'm like a lot of people use Twitter but it still is it has this like
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this outsized relevance relative to its virtual like amount of people using it
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yeah I mean we also like in our space Twitter's super popular in the tech world just like in the Creator world as
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well in general or not maybe not even in the Creator world as much there are a lot of people that I follow that aren't in Tech that don't have twitters which
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is kind of crazy to me but I do like you said the kind of like live super
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fast-paced updates is what I like about Twitter and I think that is better for people who are kind of like enthusiasts
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like say you're a New York Times reader if you just read it every once in a while maybe you're not on Twitter but if you
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read it and have a journalists on the New York Times that you really like you're probably on Twitter so you can
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follow that author and then see their random other thoughts and stuff like that because you generally think I like
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this person's articles I like their point of view I would like to see what else they're they enjoy maybe some live
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tweets of I mean like there's people who are live tweeting court cases and stuff like that you
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might be interested there's people who are live tweeting uh weather events and such like that live streaming Tech events live tweet is awesome like that's
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what I like but I think it caters way more to the Enthusiast whereas Instagram's way more just like on a
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personal level yeah I a tech live event is an interesting thing too because like an Apple event
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let's say happens some people I will see will be live sharing things that happen
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on their Instagram stories they're not posting to the feed every two seconds when you think it's announced but they're posting a new story every you
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know a little bit and that's one way of doing it a lot of other people that I also see are just like especially me
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when there's like a bunch of announcements and things that are coming out at once I'm just live tweeting the things that get unveiled and that's
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another way to do it that happens a lot and then there's like just following a live blog and I wonder what is the most
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Mass consumer way and what's the nerdiest way on that Spectrum I figure the live blog is actually the nerdiest
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way but maybe Twitter live it's weird this way I think live blog is like the most chronological way of doing it
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because Twitter then like when you are live dating an Apple event if like the
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Apple watch Ultra comes out and then 20 minutes later I don't know maybe they just announce the the regular iPhone 14
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like the ultra thing is going to be on chronologically above it because it's going to get so much more engagement but
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that engagement and the conversation that happens is probably not happening in a live blog and I kind of think the
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nerdier Enthusiast people like to have those conversations underneath it which is why I love Twitter so much yeah a
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tweet shows up and then right underneath it is all of people's public reactions to it comments to it replies quote
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tweets people getting ratioed left and right all of it's happening right there in front of you and you can just choose to just jump in anywhere and engage with
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it yep other than if it was an Instagram story you wouldn't see any of that you would just see the image and then exactly you can move on if it was a live
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blog you would see the post click click click move on it so yeah having that I mean I guess you could post on Facebook
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and have comments but I would say Twitter in terms of like but Twitter has
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a better and uh conversation engagement platform if that makes any sense but
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compared to like YouTube and Instagram is the worst to attempt to like see an actual conversation happen in the cup it
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basically is impossible well you can't even have a conversation reply to a comment and that's kind of it
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and it's a total mess same with Tick Tock it's like Twitter at least has some form of threading and I think like
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Twitter is like the faster Pace Reddit and maybe like slightly slower Discord if you can't physically be like at your
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computer just like straight up typing in a live chat yeah which I think is the best part about Twitter ultimately
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is being able to have some of those conversations all right so rumor I guess has come up that's kind of been
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confirmed maybe that or at least replied to yeah maybe one of the ways Twitter will try to make money is they will
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start charging people for Twitter verification now I don't know about all the details of this I assume you can't
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just hand them 20 bucks and get a blue check that wouldn't make it that's what I want to talk about I believe you will
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have to complete the verification process and also pay uh which there's a
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bunch of verified users on Twitter it's not enough to like turn a profit but it is some money which is interesting uh
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would you pay for Twitter verification uh two disc first let me quickly go over
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like how we got to this point like what was happening on Twitter to so we can discuss what is a rumor and what we're
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like speculating okay yeah so essentially I believe it was Casey Newton reported that Twitter was going
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to start was thinking of the idea of charging people 20 a month to be verified so that report
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comes out lots of conversation happens and the reason I think we can think that this is
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correct knowledge is because first of all there's a poll that someone said how much would you pay to be uh verified and
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have a blue check mark on Twitter five dollars A month's ten dollars a month 15 or wouldn't pay eighty percent of people
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said wouldn't pay and then Elon responded interesting um probably not the numbers he wants but
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that's also those that's a million votes too that means most of those people aren't verified and of course they're
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very good chance for sure yeah that yeah um and then after that somebody else was complaining about
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paying 20 I think it was Stephen King the author was talking about paying not paying 20 a month so Twitter and then
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Elon responded um uh we have to make money somehow which
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again for everyone way back there who may have said like Elon doesn't care about money like they have to make money somehow he
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literally said it on Twitter um he said how about eight dollars a month and then explained that after that
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he replied again um along the lines of negotiating in the comments basically negotiating in the
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comments of a Stephen King they're just gonna be bargaining you down they're never gonna stop they all said zero so
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that's that's why we're at this like pretty confirmed that this was at least talked about and high up enough that
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elon's thinking about it so I think it's a reasonable thing to think might happen now like you said we don't know is that
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going to be I paid 20 a month I get a blue check mark is that going to be I'm verified already I paid 20 a month how
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do people get verified after that yeah all of that stuff is is kind of up in the air and we're definitely speculating
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on but first of all I can't say this uh you asked me would I pay 20 I'm not verified so I could say
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no and but it doesn't really matter right all right I because I think as a as a person at certified and uses the
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verified features and appreciates the verified tab where like you can see other verified notifications as a like
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subset of notifications uh and also someone who gets impersonated quite a bit on the internet I would pay a lot
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more than 20 a month to make sure I'm the only MKBHD verified on Twitter I don't want other people to be able to
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be verified on Twitter as MKBHD or as Marquez brownie I would pay 20 a month
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is more than Netflix it's more it's so much more than so many other things that
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offer so much more that's the thing so we keep saying like there's all these things there's all these people on Twitter but there's also all these
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organizations on Twitter how much would the New York Times pay to be I would be super down to make organizations pay for
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a blue check mark sure but mine you have to like distinguishing an organization is MKBHD an organization is a small
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publisher I think your Twitter is not an organization if we made it into an
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organization yeah like the studio would pay more than me because it's an organization here's the thing there are
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journalists out there who are not making enough money that should
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be verified that are that are accurate representations of of media that should be verified and asking 20 a month is
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ridiculous they should have whoever they're a journalist for pay there are plenty of news and I think
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there are way too many like Independent Media organizations that they're barely surviving and 20 a month is like is
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pretty brutal for verification on Twitter I think it's I just don't agree
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with it at all I think there are places where maybe it should be paid for maybe big organizations but again you have to
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draw the line which makes it so much more complicated and yeah it's just like I know people like Isaac has started his
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whole thing with Tango and and he was verified due to being a journalist before but when he decided to take that
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leap and like go make his own website so he could do like independent try like news journalism asking him to
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immediately start paying 20 a month is it's rough yeah it depends on what you're paying for already I think
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there's a lot of things that you like you have to weigh it against like does being verified get you anything or is it
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worth anything to you at that point or if you're just getting started maybe you don't have being verified on your
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priorities but when you start to grow then you get impersonated more and then you start to think I do actually want to
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be verified I have to go through the process now that's a tough question it's definitely a question what does
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verification matter um I mean like I'm not verified I don't
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care that much oh sure I would love it sure at this point I just want it before if they make you pay 20 so then I cannot
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pay for it hell yeah yeah they're definitely not gonna grandfather I don't think so
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um I don't know it's it's a tricky situation but also on top of all of this
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I just want to throw out there that one of the things Elon has mentioned multiple multiple times is that he wants
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to authenticate all humans on Twitter which if that were to happen
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why does verification matter at all authenticate all humans on Twitter so just make sure everyone that has an
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account and is a human has to prove they're human I know where you're going with this already but in terms of just
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verification right now what like would that ultimately
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null it out like why do I need to be verified if Elon is already verifying me
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as a human by being on Twitter oh just by being on Twitter at all you can't be on Twitter if you're not a
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verified human I guess he's the one who said I'll find the exact uh yeah I guess yeah if you're uh if you're the owner of
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Twitter you would like to make sure that there's no bots on Twitter you like to make sure that there's no spammers very
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people making tons of accounts that go around and spam comments replies impersonating people you don't want that
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to happen on Twitter so those those accounts should not have a verified check mark but also yeah those accounts
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should not exist in a dream world but I guess that's two different levels of security like number one if you have the
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verified check you're definitely a human and then if you don't have the verified check you might be a human and we're
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working on getting rid of the ones that aren't humans I guess that's that's the tears yeah it's yeah spam accounts
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people and then definitely people or Brands whoever else verified I don't know do you think that your Twitter
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account is gonna get plugged into the sort of Tesla sphere of things in the same way that if you have a Prime
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account you can use it when you check out at Whole Foods I I think that there's an inevitable crossover yeah so
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there's been some sort of visions of the the future of what a Twitter account might be which might be more than just a
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Twitter account it could be an account that's connected to you know other services you use to your bank to your
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groceries I don't know there's big companies that do things like that um that would be one way to get a lot more
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people to use Twitter if there's real utility to having a Twitter account but it's something elon's mentioned before I
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forget I want to say it was an interview with oh man what's that one Tesla blog not
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teslarati why can't I think I don't know he's at an interview and he said he essentially
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he's like we don't have a WeChat in the US WeChat runs everything in China yeah
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like it's awesome I would like to do something listen I'm I'm throwing uh maybe not an
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exactly very similar so but but similar to what you're talking about is it would turn Twitter into something with far more features and an everyday life kind
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of thing and um trust me what you thought exactly okay so so that idea but not run by the
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government if it's actually good is something that people would pay for theoretically if it's actually a useful
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commodity account I think paying for it it would oh man we're really in the way people I love it but it's YouTube
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premium is what 14 bucks a month or something like that just to have access to the content Netflix is 13 bucks a
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month just to have access to the content Hulu whatever it is Twitter blue
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YouTube's not access to content it's like ad free access right access to ad-free content but there's a little
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tiny bit of Premium content yeah um I guess the idea would be to build up as much interesting useful features on
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Twitter as possible that you could actually get people to want to pay for it and I think that's a much better way of going for making money than
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um I think a regular verification process the thing verification should be uh I don't know if I necessarily want to
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use the term trustworthy news sources but like news sources that could potentially be uh duped and like making
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sure that you're following the correct person in those sources and it doesn't always have to be news but just like you know somebody that somebody would want
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to follow making sure they're the correct person yeah I guess I always thought like verification for me was always just about being impersonated
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that was always I mean that's pretty much what we're uh that's why I don't want to use the term trustworthy because there there are plenty of people who are
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yeah and there's morons that you that can be verified you're verified it's you're the you're definitely exact
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you're the only one that can say yeah but uh as long as there's not a bot trying to escape exactly I'm the
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real not the bot no I think I my uh my rule number one on the internet as I've always come back to
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saying is don't charge people for something that was previously free so if you're Elon
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and you're listening to this coming up with new things to add value to Twitter and having people pay for those will be
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much better accepted than trying to go hey that verification thing that we've already been running for free
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yeah we're gonna make people pay for that now that's the general for sure rule number one that I'll totally agree
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with I I actually think editing Tweets in Twitter blue is like one of the better things they've done recently
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because I do think if you want to talk about things verified users could use why make them pay for their verification
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why not give them a bunch of really great tools yeah that they can just pay for I think it's basically their hack of
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going like ah we don't really know anything that we could guarantee a lot of people to pay for but we know we already have a lot of people enjoying
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being verified and they're just trying to like Loop that into the thing that people pay for I still don't think
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they'll do it but that part is what scares me about it not confirming that it can't just be like I'll pay 20 a
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month give me that blue check mark yeah because if they just want to make money immediately which I don't think that's
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the course they're going ruin the plot everyone is verified it would literally be the exact opposite of fixing spam
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Bots it would just imagine how many fake Elon musks there could be crypto because they'll have 20 bucks a month to spend
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on scamming people so again I don't think that will be it but I'm worried about if it's a money play that would be
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the fastest way to make money yeah usually the fastest way to make money is not the best way to make money can I put
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in my two cents here no yeah one I I love Twitter Bots you love
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there are some very useful fantastic boxes Twitter spam oh no spam sucks yeah yeah
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but there's some genuinely useful Bots I agree so if he gets rid of all Bots that's a problem that's that's a that's
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a good point yeah being only people on Twitter is not Twitter there are lots of things on Twitter that are not people
00:26:08
that are really cool parts of that so I thought you were gonna go to before when I said I know where you're going with this um yeah the authenticating part
00:26:14
also means there are a lot of really fun whatever accounts business accounts parody accounts just helpful Twitter
00:26:20
Bots that can point you in the right direction to something like it's part of Twitter it's part of Twitter you're literally killing part of Twitter yeah
00:26:26
and the other thing is with super apps you think people will actually use a Twitter app that has everything built in
00:26:31
I feel like Instagram tried and we all complained about how much crap is Instagram
00:26:37
um that is a whole different subject I think it is going to be very hard to do
00:26:43
here in the US because like like you said no one wants it to be government-run but making a government run is what would force everyone would
00:26:49
you rather be government run or run by one guy I'd rather neither I'd rather that's the choice I guess ditch all my
00:26:56
credit cards and pay in cash again which I hate doing it's already rough enough being like I use an Android phone and
00:27:02
wow all these Google services work so well together and oops my life is now completely in Gmail Google Calendar and
00:27:08
all these other services that one company runs uh having a super app run by one company that also one guy who's a
00:27:16
little rogue sometimes could really mess up that was the nicest way of putting that not the best no it would be
00:27:21
terrible yeah yeah I think that's a tough one yeah I guess we'll leave it at that don't charge don't charge for things
00:27:27
that were previously free that's probably and also Marquez will pay upwards of 500 a month this is true I
00:27:32
wasn't gonna say it but now that it's out there yeah I would pay enough yeah what's your number what's your upper limit of like what is it worth to you
00:27:38
are you asking just for verification yeah just verification verification it wouldn't be very high but like just to
00:27:44
have my Twitter account and use it it would be very high what would you think of a a one-time price this is bad okay
00:27:52
twenty dollars twenty dollars a month is ridiculous yeah I think that's crazy I
00:27:58
think you have to taste it first yeah I think that's actually pretty worth it I don't think so well maybe maybe a tiered
00:28:06
version and like depending on how many followers you have make it more expensive but it's crazy to ask a a
00:28:12
journalist with 2 000 followers but two thousand very loyal followers who really care about that and the question is does
00:28:18
that person even need to be verified I think there's always harm in the comments uh impersonating them yeah that's always
00:28:25
gonna be possible yeah I guess my notifications are so chaotic that I do need that filter for sure I don't is my
00:28:31
barometer so I would pay personally I would pay 100 bucks a month easily God
00:28:37
no to keep the filter and I'm not advocating for that to be the price he's doing I'm saying that's
00:28:43
what I would pay doing it for all of you out there so you don't get scammed in our comments that's what he really cares
00:28:48
about there are real accounts impersonating me in the comments every day that's my
00:28:54
I don't know what that noise is anyway okay yeah that's my uh that's kind of it
00:28:59
that's that's where that's where we're at on Tuesday who knows where it'll be by the time I can't wait till this
00:29:04
ramble is just completely null and void by the time this release is on Friday off of new rules on Twitter by the time
00:29:11
this comes out that's they pay you 20 a month to be verified perfect that's what that's actually ideal let's have it now
00:29:18
I want to have it our way yeah it's great all right let's take a quick break but before that let's do trivia
00:29:27
okay trivia question number one who are the top three most followed accounts on
00:29:34
Twitter one point per person on Twitter on Twitter specifically we
00:29:40
recently did this with Instagram Instagram and I remember some of those and it's so much different on Twitter is
00:29:47
it do you think I think so I don't know this is like yeah does Kylie Jenner even
00:29:53
have a Twitter yeah for sure especially actually there's so many of them who don't or it's weird to see someone on
00:29:58
Instagram with like 60 million followers and then you go on Twitter and they have like a thousand you know I think there's
00:30:03
people who you don't think of as a Twitter person but you'll check and they have a Twitter like Kylie Jenner does
00:30:09
have a Twitter account I'm sure how many followers 25 million followers or something 40.3 million yeah like
00:30:14
something like that but she's not a Twitter person but once in a while she's the Instagram anyway yeah I'll I'll
00:30:19
brainstorm also just saying um no producer Kim but producer Kim is ordered it's happening it's a future thing let
00:30:26
us like to see this stroll into it soon the look in their eyes when they read the questions to us and who know how we
00:30:33
struggle with these yeah and they dress up really nice as producers too so they're both in full tuxes like they
00:30:38
usually oh yeah all the time every week you'll be able to see the tuxes when we get the when we get this cut cut can we hire actors to play us
00:30:46
with helmets on and they just mouth into the microphone just have metaverse avatars oh wow that's a good segue we'll
00:30:53
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all right welcome back so uh who cares about the metaverse yes a video you just
00:32:33
posted on the main Channel um interesting question lots of things talked about but I thought we'd dive a
00:32:40
little deeper I'll throw some of my thoughts out there please um I think just the metaverse is is a super
00:32:46
interesting area that obviously everyone's talking about and I'm already
00:32:52
getting scared yeah I'm talking about it well here's the thing I also want to
00:32:58
um preface all of this with just like saying that while VR has been getting
00:33:03
very popular I think we can all agree that like the crypto nft section of the
00:33:10
world kind of took over the metaverse for a little while and I don't think that that's they have to be together
00:33:17
they're Mutual they're exclusive to one another like so I want to talk about the metaverse that is not including crypto
00:33:23
and nft stuff because I think it's given it sure of in that sense I think people are like screw the metaverse yeah I hate
00:33:30
everything about it they get looped together it's like the web three yeah and I don't love I get why people don't
00:33:37
like that and I want to just talk about like The Meta verses in like a a separate universe that's digital that we
00:33:44
can be a part of through different factors of AR VR whatever is happening this video by the way was in the works
00:33:52
for like over a month and it had a bunch of different way over from yeah way over a month but we we had a bunch of
00:33:58
different ideas of like how to approach because I have we never we haven't talked about the metaverse in a video
00:34:04
yeah and it's it became this like swelling topic of like it keeps getting
00:34:09
talked about there's more Facebook presentations there's more VR we're gonna get more headsets and maybe the question is just like what is the
00:34:16
metaverse exactly and the more we research this the harder and harder it was to answer the question because there are several metaverses by several
00:34:22
companies maybe it's decentraland and there's like 300 daily active users in this one and there's 400 daily active
00:34:29
users in this one and there's like the Facebook concept of the metaverse and then there's Horizon workplaces and then
00:34:34
there's like just VR what are we even talking about like it's it got really hard to to to filter it into one video
00:34:43
but eventually I mean we did get to play with the headset the new one before we saw the presentation so we got to form
00:34:49
our opinions about it we hear the price we get the demos and then it starts to crystallize a little bit and we're like
00:34:56
actually this is more just about like one company sort of trying to steer
00:35:01
their future into being a platform instead of being built on another platform it's kind of like we saw you know ask
00:35:07
app not to track from Apple and yeah a whole bunch of Facebook's ad business taking hits so like they're they're
00:35:13
looking forward pivoting the ship and barreling head first towards metaverse stuff do also want to like that's the
00:35:20
main thing we're seeing though but like metaver the the metaverse in general is in all Facebook and meta just because
00:35:26
they they name themselves very opportunity but like there are plenty of other situations like Vive has its own
00:35:34
like there's something called VR chat years and years ago that you could argue is a metaverse that's way before
00:35:39
Facebook even changed their name so while that's the main thing but it's also another thing if you are Facebook
00:35:45
bad reputation right off the bat like yeah rightfully so I I totally understand it so all of these things are
00:35:52
being seen very negatively at first and I understand it and as coming from
00:35:58
someone who kind of thinks the metaverse is pretty stupid right now I so what so what is the metaverse Andrew and why is
00:36:03
it it's just like a digital the easiest way is it's like a digital space that can be accessed and you can have
00:36:12
experiences in it oh man this is how that video comes exactly yeah this is like what months
00:36:18
what is a metaverse okay it's a it's a universe that's digital
00:36:23
oh well I guess I guess that kind of is like anything right like Twitter oh it's
00:36:30
a it's a it's a virtual experience probably that happens in VR that lives
00:36:37
separate from The Real World I agree with you I think it has to be like VR
00:36:42
based or ar based like I think you need to be like because then is Minecraft's
00:36:48
exit metaverse is World of Warcraft The Meta version like you could probably argue yes decentral end you don't need
00:36:53
it you can go live it like Second Life stuff like that it is all very confusing yeah I think not a lot of actual
00:37:00
definitions and hard lines in the sand which is why that ended up not being the the direction of the videos trying to
00:37:07
define the metaverse yeah just the dictionary for it is virtual reality
00:37:13
space which users can interact with the computer generated environment and other users sure there we go that's the Uranus
00:37:19
basic DVR with other people but I do think we should focus on kind of what meta's vision is because I think that's
00:37:25
the most common one right now and as much as I don't like it
00:37:30
I understand why things are going there and I do agree that position in the
00:37:37
future makes sense um I do think uh
00:37:42
having more human-like interactions in positions where you can't physically be with each other I think is most people
00:37:49
would agree makes total sense right and not only that like we can all also
00:37:55
agree that as video calling experience like Zoom or FaceTime or teams or whatever there's a disconnect there like
00:38:02
it does not it's great but it just doesn't quite feel there and I mean apple and Microsoft have been working on
00:38:07
things for years to try and help with eye contact and better lighting and center stage and making it feel more
00:38:13
personal but it just always has this kind of Disconnect so being able to put
00:38:18
on some sort of goggles and to feel like you're transported somewhere with maybe
00:38:23
family who lives across the country or maybe friends who are in another country like totally different times whether
00:38:29
that's meetings for business and stuff I think totally makes sense I think the position we are in now is very hard to
00:38:37
convey that to people because it's this wild jump that you have to make to get to that and we're nowhere close to it
00:38:44
that's that is the main point I think is the idea is actually it makes perfect
00:38:50
sense yeah it's like if you can build these experiences that are much more realistic feeling and much more
00:38:57
connective in their engagement than like a flat face on a screen or a bunch of
00:39:02
squares in a zoom call then it's theoretically better but when you try these experiences now you're wearing
00:39:08
this big plastic headset on your face and it's uncomfortable and the graphics aren't that good and the the mics are
00:39:15
like the audio isn't as good from your face and like suddenly you're like well this isn't actually better but there's
00:39:20
companies that believe if we pour enough money into this and make it better and better and better eventually it will
00:39:26
actually be a no-brainer to do the metaverse version every time yeah and so they're dedicating themselves to being
00:39:32
at the Forefront of that new thing it's a big dedication um to come this early I I think one of
00:39:39
the biggest issues right now with even just the the outskirts of people trying
00:39:44
to believe into this is I still just don't feel like VR in general is that well-known people aren't that familiar
00:39:51
with VR it's still getting to the point where I'll give someone The Quest 2 that I have and like they go into it and they
00:39:58
have the best time ever but yeah to navigate even through like the beginning menus of to tell someone how to do beat
00:40:04
saber is a learning experience and while they enjoy it the familiarity of VR is
00:40:11
just not there with I would probably argue 90 of the human population that would even think about doing any of this
00:40:18
uh and like if I almost want to take it a step back an I.T department they will
00:40:24
stick to like a Windows version until it basically runs out of support because users get so used to something they
00:40:29
don't when I worked Windows 10 was out for like three years at the it place I worked for have all of our users run XP
00:40:36
or seven having people completely just shut down because they
00:40:41
have like a new windows or Os upgrade like imagine now being like hey here's your VR headset enjoy like this is how
00:40:48
you're gonna take meetings now the just the the unfamiliarity with all of it feels like a total nightmare in
00:40:54
businesses and I think I think still making VR more easily available for like gaming and stuff and more
00:41:00
extracurricular activities would then help people get more familiar with it and then maybe you could take those
00:41:05
steps into the Enterprise world yeah yeah I guess the way I framed it in the video is like games is one of the things
00:41:11
you can do in VR incredible and it's one of the most fun universally like great first experiences but let's say you you
00:41:18
know you look at these headsets they're still like a big clunky thing on your face there's a battery hanging off of it
00:41:24
and like it's not the battery life is only an hour but fast forward to the future you know you have this super
00:41:29
lightweight headset it's maybe it's just a pair of glasses that can do all the same stuff just theoretical future Tech and the graphics are dramatically better
00:41:37
and smoother and more immersive and it's just an amazing graphical experience then suddenly it makes sense it's like
00:41:44
oh it's actually a better version of a meeting than a zoom call is today yeah so that's the future they're betting on
00:41:50
I think audio big thing there too if they can get like crisp audio might be
00:41:55
one of the like most annoying parts of any teleconferencing ever because just
00:42:00
like that constant just Screech every once in a while or something cutting out like in real life you don't ever go like
00:42:06
I'm sorry your mouth kept moving but I didn't hear any other words that came out of your mouth I was distracted by
00:42:11
the glitching lips you know what is happening so it I I really do think
00:42:18
like I don't want to just say the metaverse sucks because I do want there to be Innovation I think right now the
00:42:24
metaverse sucks yeah um and I'm excited for where it goes and I'm hoping that when I'm old I was gonna
00:42:31
say when my knees don't work but that's probably like a couple years away so uh but when I'm much older and can't really get around like I'm excited for the
00:42:38
metaverse to be a thing hopefully then so then like I get to experience some things still do you remember the project
00:42:45
Starline demo did at Google i o where it was like it looked like a guy like like talking to a mirror but then he could
00:42:52
like make eye contact with a virtual you remember this that looks like a like weird indie horror movie yeah it kind of
00:42:59
does look like a Harmony but it's like you are having a video call with someone
00:43:04
who is somewhere else in the world but the video call will look extremely
00:43:10
realistic you'll be able to make direct eye contact with the person and it'll have this 3D element where you can move
00:43:17
around and see angles that the way you would if you were in real life with someone that's an
00:43:23
another like background thing in the back of my head where I'm like what if these headsets just aren't it what if
00:43:28
the whole metaverse thing would be like looking into a virtual space or just like a huge virtual window instead of
00:43:35
just a headset I can't even know I kind of like the AR way of like maybe glasses that can produce some sort of hologram
00:43:42
of some like if I'm in my room in my space but all I have to do is wear a pair of glasses and then you can be
00:43:48
there in a sort of hologram and feel like you're there that feels kind of like maybe an in between but I also kind
00:43:55
like ultimately in the perfect world where it all makes sense and you can have a fully immersive VR experience
00:44:02
without being uncomfortable and all those things then in that scenario it's like but I want to create the um the
00:44:09
atmosphere inside it so then full VR kind of makes sense I I don't know I I like go back and forth on this whole
00:44:16
way way in the future this is going to be really cool but like all of the
00:44:22
things right now are doing a horrific job yeah like showing it off the Gap some people might call it a gap between
00:44:27
where we're at where we want to be it's more of like a canyon like a giant chasm of like alligators in the bottom it's
00:44:34
gonna take billions of dollars to cross this Canyon but you know a couple companies are spending the money so yes
00:44:39
so I I want to say there there is hope for the metaverse
00:44:44
right now all of my all of me talking about I'm not even gonna call it the metaverse I'm just going to talk about
00:44:50
VR because VR Gaming is so much fun and I've been having an absolute blast I've
00:44:55
seen people making comparisons to other non-vr games uh there's people who are who are just like they're so down on the
00:45:01
metaverse they're like look at the graphics of VR games and then look at the graphics of all the games we love or
00:45:06
they're like Graphics in the metaverse suck they've never played VR that's yeah the immersion matters and maybe this
00:45:12
doesn't help with the I think it's immersion helps more when you're trying to just do like a meeting it feels more
00:45:17
but like when you're in a game and you're really super focused on something that doesn't quite matter super hot is
00:45:22
literally like it's like three colors Stick Figures it's red basically polygon like people it's white and then black
00:45:30
and I have literally fallen on my face playing super hot because I thought I could like lean on to something so
00:45:37
immersive it's insanely immersive yeah so it yeah I just I want VR to come to more
00:45:43
people because it's such a fun experience but I like it in the gaming and not professional way right now I feel it it's not a very hot take at all
00:45:49
we'll keep an eye on it the videos out there who cares about the metaverse lock it down 2022 or at the beginning of the
00:45:55
chasm we'll see how long it takes to get to the other side Facebook might run out of money by the end a lot of people
00:46:00
would be happy about that we'll just have to see we'll just have to see all right let's take another quick break and
00:46:06
another trivia question then we'll come back and talk about smartphones and play a little game [Music]
00:46:14
foreign
00:46:20
The Love is Real by Chasm sir before we even would we still say Siri is the most
00:46:27
accidentally triggered 100 dude they made a joke about it in Hocus Pocus too I watched it last night it's Gotta Be by
00:46:34
percentage the most accidentally used piece of tech people own it's the only time are you Siri yeah
00:46:41
yeah
00:46:47
World Cup soccer's this November right now or in a little bit football football
00:46:54
what was the first FIFA World Cup to be fully filmed every single match in AK in
00:47:01
4k in four okay 4K I don't remember bonus question if you could name who won
00:47:06
that World Cup I can't I don't I don't know that one I just don't know that uh but I can think about the 4K thing yeah
00:47:13
we'll accept either the place it was played in or the year won't know the place either dude okay wait wait I'm
00:47:19
just gonna toss something else do you remember what now pretty common smartphone feature was kind of announced
00:47:27
by a phone partnership with a World Cup event under fingerprint uh under display
00:47:35
fingerprint was like the Vivo next 2020 I think and it was like they released it
00:47:42
with a ton of uh advertising at one of the World Cup yeah we got invited World
00:47:47
Cup Russia was that like that's such a weird I always thought I thought it was very strange and I thought it was very
00:47:54
interesting it's strange for an a fingerprint scanner to be advertised at a sport where the only thing you're not
00:47:59
allowed to do I think it was mostly that it was the phone but back then that's when Vivo were the people who were just like
00:48:06
they weren't very popular but they always like did those really Innovative things yeah
00:48:12
under display camera on this stuff yeah yeah well sorry sidetracked that one I don't I know the 8K one I don't know if
00:48:18
I know before no wait broadcast no there is no AK one okay I think I know the answer then anyway
00:48:24
we'll uh we'll come back to that be right back
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00:49:39
segment a little uh maybe game maybe just uh brain teaser I don't know um and
00:49:46
it was it was a I don't know how to describe it it was a Reddit thread um that I found very interesting and then I just want to broaden it a little
00:49:52
bit and I think it could be a fun discussion um the thread was does anyone else think phones with squeezable sides were great
00:49:59
um okay fun we already disagree did you hear that um I shook my head sorry my
00:50:05
headphones almost came off yeah uh but I wanted to take this as are there any features that are missing
00:50:10
in phones that we used to have that maybe we miss or if you want to take it one step further features Wii U7 Tech
00:50:16
that are now gone that we miss but I also want to start with I do miss squeezable sides what yeah did you wait
00:50:24
why did you enjoy using them or do you like the idea of them no no I liked them I liked uh the best time I use them the
00:50:32
sweet not the buttons but this one no no no not squeezable buttons okay okay I
00:50:37
went down the path I pictured this this the remember the U I was gonna say I think squeezable buttons are the reason
00:50:43
HTC doesn't make phones anymore because they failed so bad they fell on their face there so they did do squeezable
00:50:49
side assistant uh or I think it could even just be like squeeze for a customizable quick action
00:50:54
I found it okay I liked being able to if I were like going out on my pixel 3 when
00:51:00
I had it if it were cold out and I had gloves going to the car I could just like on my way out grab my phone squeeze
00:51:05
it and be like text Claire I'm on my way home and just like very easily be able to like throw out a couple really quick
00:51:11
text messages while without having to do any unlocking or anything like that which I really liked one scenario but I
00:51:19
believe you can also just say the hot word I don't like having
00:51:25
lock screen Howard activated I have I and I think this is Google's own problem
00:51:30
but I don't know if you see this to use Google Assistant like Google home yeah home right yeah so like I have found it
00:51:38
just does not work very well and it seems to be like whichever device in my house can get to the question first
00:51:44
that's where I'll play through and sometimes my phone seems to beat my Google homes and I hate when that happens oh sometimes so sometimes it
00:51:52
asks me like I'll I'll be testing a new phone and I'll ask I'll say the hot word out loud for the first time and the
00:51:58
phone will answer when I didn't want it to but then a little pop-up will say hey did the correct device answer that you
00:52:04
were expecting to answer and I always I hit no and I then usually it fixes itself yeah so when I'm in the room with
00:52:10
the assistant the assistant speaker answers I still have some I've had some issues still with all that up and I mean
00:52:16
I still even have issues where if I'm in my living room my kitchen Google home picks me up and I just hear that I hear
00:52:23
that far that far away because yeah because like we don't have like full doors we just have like entryways I
00:52:29
guess throughout that it's close enough but yeah that's why I liked the squeeze version of it as one of them instead of
00:52:36
lock screen because I usually have it disabled because my house likes to play Ring Around the Rosie of who wants gets
00:52:42
to answer it it makes sense for gloves it makes sense I I like swiping out from the corner and I use a hot word for
00:52:48
talking to it but I can swipe over the corner to get the assistant anywhere which is good enough for me I think you can also can you long hold power button
00:52:56
within lock screen some phones yes some phones yes I should know this yes okay
00:53:01
it does some phones like the Zenfone will give you a an ability to do it if you want to
00:53:07
which is God the zenfone's so good a lot of phones that's not one of the options
00:53:12
Samsung Bixby uh but yeah you know that that is a thing I could say we miss in
00:53:18
phones um I think there's a lot of obvious answers that I can already see the commenters typing like the headphone on
00:53:25
Jack yeah or front-facing stereo speakers like boom sound speakers
00:53:32
fair I the headphone jack one that's it's so far gone yeah like good
00:53:38
speakers are definitely one of them I Google kind of brought it back this time and I'm sure some other phones do it but
00:53:45
like an old a real Ultra wide selfie camera was something I was surprised they took away it's coming back
00:53:51
um then there are like on top of that MacBooks finally brought back SD card
00:53:57
slots which is like crazy are we are we in this trend of now like they took it away and now they're bringing it back
00:54:04
um there's you know most companies don't like to admit when they were wrong and they won't even say out loud that they
00:54:10
were wrong but when they bring back something that they previously made a big deal about getting rid of
00:54:16
you can tell they know that they were wrong and that's that's good enough for me you know what you did yeah so I was
00:54:22
trying to think of like maybe some other phone feature that was less obvious I feel like Adam's got one
00:54:28
fingerprint sensor on the back on the back yeah on your display a bunch of
00:54:33
phones in a row for a couple of years when I was in college all had a little dimple in the back of the phone and you
00:54:40
would put your index finger right like that's kind of like you just instantly like it naturally sits there I hate that
00:54:46
we're talking about that like it's a decade ago a couple years ago it wasn't that long ago but we're talking about it
00:54:53
like the good old days where like you had to walk to school and back in my day you had a pixel 4A and it was like six
00:55:01
to nine years ago there were a bunch of phones that all did it yeah I love them they we got some on the side and then
00:55:08
they obviously moved to the front and under the display but that I like that's a good one I like on the side also I'm
00:55:13
very surprised we don't see that more often it seems uh would you argue it's cheaper than in
00:55:19
display oh it's still tough like it's tougher than on the back because it's still a
00:55:24
really small area but like the power button it would just always be faster and like
00:55:29
I guess it it would be a an extra thing to put on the phone as like a special
00:55:34
area they all like having a smooth glass back now and they don't really do that a little bit oh you're talking about a
00:55:40
back one or a back with the like side power button I think that's easy to do yeah I don't know why more people don't
00:55:45
do it who's it's it's like Zenfone one of the only people yeah right now yeah
00:55:51
it's it reminds me of the s10e back in the day yeah still uses that but yeah it loves it and the swiping even you could
00:55:57
you could have it do that yeah yeah there's a couple phones that do it and the zenfone's one of them
00:56:02
um but I actually was just about to say I remember when we had that theory which was like you have the under display
00:56:08
fingerprint reader now and it's kind of small it's just a little circle and you can move easily but aren't they supposed to get bigger and bigger until it's like
00:56:14
the whole bottom half of the phone and you just like slap anywhere on the bottom half of the phone and it reads it that just didn't happen no not at all it
00:56:21
hasn't even really inched much closer I haven't gotten meaningfully bigger or faster would you argue that God uh like
00:56:28
stifled from hey here's this but like very quickly finding out that under display was not
00:56:36
as secure so then everyone focused way more on security which meant keeping precision and less because like the old
00:56:43
OnePlus fingerprint sensors that were just like pretty easily fooled you could probably throw that anywhere on the
00:56:49
screen pretty easily but now when you have to do these ultrasonic very precise secure ones I think it's actually cost I
00:56:55
think it's actually just like having a huge sensor that big behind the display
00:57:00
glass that works as a very expensive technology and we just haven't found what like if you had if you were the
00:57:08
smartphone company that could take this standard size one or take the one that's 20 bigger
00:57:13
and you can't really make a huge deal about it being 20 bigger because most people won't notice you'll probably just take the standard size one and so now
00:57:19
we're just stuck with a bunch of standard size ones and nobody's willing to like actually make a bigger and bigger one then there's like once in a
00:57:24
while there's like a concept phone where it's like yeah both your thumbs anywhere on the bottom half it's super secure
00:57:30
because it's two fingers and it's anywhere on the bottom half so it's super fast and you're like yes that's the future but it never happens we're
00:57:37
not getting there that's one of the things for my list yeah I do stand by
00:57:42
that the HTC M1 HTC One M1
00:57:49
h1ma yes HTC but specifically the Google Play edition
00:57:55
one my whole point in this podcast is just to see how many times you can bring back Google Play editions so we can
00:58:01
eventually bring back Google Playstation phone 2014 I reviewed this on favorite phone probably of all time
00:58:09
that's tough I mean it's not it's maybe not number one but it's easily top five favorite phones of all time for me okay
00:58:16
what about a uh a feature or something that you hope never comes back that is
00:58:22
the headache buttons do oh fake buttons like what we were talking about before Oh my God I don't know why I feel like
00:58:30
there's a bunch of Samsung seems to really love just like swinging for the fences on accessories and missing do you
00:58:37
remember like the bikini case for the Samsung S10 S8 I think it was S8 and
00:58:43
they also then had that it was the the keyboard you could put on
00:58:48
the front of the phone and it would like basically be tapping the screen I think after yeah but then now you had a
00:58:54
Blackberry keyboard but now you got a Blackberry keyboard yeah that doesn't have to come back the thing is I think fake buttons are gonna come back which
00:59:00
is I think it's inevitable they come back I'm gonna try it again they're gonna guess I hope never comes back what
00:59:06
the rollerball do you remember like the Nexus one oh man oh a track the HTC
00:59:11
Droid Paris had one I never got to daily a phone or the trackball I kind of like
00:59:16
the idea the heiress had one the thing was is it was it was touch screen already so like you never used yeah the
00:59:23
Nexus One same thing yeah and then the T-Mobile G1 also had one I never got to
00:59:28
daily any of those phones okay I had the phone I had the Droid which had a d-pad and a touch screen yeah but you never
00:59:35
used the d-pad for like selecting for text I think if I was if I go to
00:59:41
landscape and I was like just on the keyboard then I would use the d-pad to move around that's a good point also the the ball on the heiress would be okay
00:59:48
for like back then it wasn't quite as easy where if you're texting and then you realize like oh I made a mistake to
00:59:53
just touch it like rolling back on the ball through characters it was much easier yeah I wouldn't mind I wouldn't
00:59:58
mind not coming back bring it back I don't think where would it go I don't think modern phones would do it because it's not waterproof or like yeah it's
01:00:05
not actually feasible a full screen like where on Earth would it go it's it
01:00:11
wouldn't have much utility it's not coming back I would imagine have you ever used like a mouse with an iPad
01:00:16
yeah like the floating yeah you know like pointer dot moves I think it would like Snap around like that yeah and I
01:00:22
would hate that so you're saying add it to the iPad uh add a little rollerball to the side of the iPad I would really
01:00:28
truly compete the most confusing lineup of iPads of all time they make a new one and it just has a little rollerball on
01:00:34
the side you're like what which iPad is this that can make it waterproof if it was like an under display rollerball
01:00:41
like the screen just has a little bulge what if they just add the Lenovo uh
01:00:46
rubber the little redness joystick yeah the joyless stick
01:00:54
on the corner of the eye there you go new iPad coming at you hold it by the edge right by the lightning port or
01:01:00
whatever iPad you're using and just use the joystick all the time all right that's not coming back no
01:01:07
that's oh man somebody like unnecessary inventions has to make that or something like that's perfect perfect that would
01:01:14
be wonderful bring back 30 pin oh geez let's go to trivia let's go to
01:01:20
church we're just trying to get Tech canceled here [Music] okay on the heels of that beautiful hot
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take 30 pounds let's get the boards ready
01:01:32
so the score Marquez 10 Andrew nine is this one where
01:01:37
we get like a point per yep so this question who are the top
01:01:43
three most followed accounts on Twitter you get one point per person that you get correct do we just
01:01:49
name three people or do we have to go in order and then is it wrong if it's in the wrong they could just name three people
01:01:54
I have a list of like six people that I know are extremely popular and I just don't know what order to try to put them
01:02:01
in the top three yeah I have like two I have one I'm
01:02:06
pretty sure of one I think does it have to be a person um it doesn't have to be but I will help
01:02:13
you out it is three people because I'm pretty sure the at Twitter
01:02:18
account is I don't think that actually has that much more than the at Twitter account people have more followers than that is
01:02:25
it like the Instagram account not have that many followers on Instagram yeah I think it has a lot oh really I think
01:02:31
it's like top five really yeah I think Twitter has
01:02:38
64.7 million followers not even close to top three
01:02:46
oh those three like totally random people like oh God it's Chef Emerald
01:02:51
Rudy gobert and your grandma
01:02:56
oh wait when did you uh write this question uh
01:03:05
five minutes before recording okay um I have also noticed that number going up
01:03:10
no no Marquez is not on the list by the way no no okay soon
01:03:16
okay we'll get there ready all right wait you want to flip around and then yeah who wants to read them first uh
01:03:23
Mark guys can read first okay it's a flipped wow oh oh is Trump on
01:03:29
Twitter that's why I was asking okay Marquez what are your reports so my
01:03:34
three are Barack Obama okay that's good Christina Cristiano Ronaldo
01:03:40
and Elon Musk two out of three I go okay well unless trumps the other one then no he just
01:03:47
came back and I thought maybe with all that's going on on Twitter that could have skyrocketed musk he's had went from
01:03:54
musk is number one to 110. yeah so the top three former Barack former president
01:03:59
Barack Obama number one right 133.4 at number one yep uh Canadian treasure
01:04:05
Justin Bieber is number two 113.8 million
01:04:10
and then number three the chief twit himself Elon Musk with one 12.9 oh no
01:04:17
dude he had 110 yes Trump's not back on oh yeah he's he's back on now no not Trump I mean um yeah he got he got to
01:04:23
what is that two thousand two million two million in two days he had 110 million yesterday oh my God yeah he'll
01:04:30
probably be number one in not that long yeah give it a month it only took 44 billion dollars to be well I put someone
01:04:36
who's not even under Twitter anymore so I lost that one so I got two points you got I got one all right so the score now
01:04:43
Marquez 12 Andrew 10. so the next question what was the first FIFA World Cup to be
01:04:50
fully filmed in 4k just the okay bonus question if you could say wait can I
01:04:56
clarify something sure like uh broadcast in 4k
01:05:02
or filmed in 4k I'm gonna go with broadcast in 4k yeah broadcast 4K also this is the men's
01:05:08
World Cup yes okay yeah that's a good question as well I guess I not to get
01:05:13
like way too pedantic let's buy it in there it's the World Cup of handball right it's a world yeah it's a world cup
01:05:19
of no um the upcoming World Cup they are
01:05:25
broadcasting in 4k but it's not native 4K they're upscaling 1080p for some
01:05:32
games to forecast oh that doesn't that's terrible the World Cup that this question is about was natively filmed in
01:05:38
4k yeah yeah yeah yeah I think I really wanted to write trick question because I didn't think it happened yet but I think
01:05:45
enough of these are ooh one it's a country that would win correct it
01:05:52
is a country one it was the year one just identifying
01:05:57
the World Cup in general yeah the World Cup oh man I feel like we're gonna make so many people mad because we're not
01:06:03
good socks football a bonus point is who won okay so you could get a maximum of two
01:06:09
points with this question I don't think that's right I don't think that's right that's not it's not right
01:06:15
I would have known if no also you know just why Marcus is figuring this out Waka Waka by Shakira
01:06:22
is like one of the best songs ever just saying it was foreign
01:06:39
I want the extra point I just there's no shot do you want a hint at the extra point no sure no you don't
01:06:46
I have a guess I don't know if it's right it it was not the USA
01:06:53
spoiler not really we were not even close there's no show we're coming for this year did we even make it we do have
01:06:59
a good yeah we do have a good young team this year but we'll we'll see I've said that about the doubles for like a decade
01:07:04
oh God winner let's go with that okay all right I'm
01:07:11
ready to flip yep all right oh wait so Marquez what was your answer
01:07:17
I said the 2018 World Cup okay oh and then I said Portugal one no
01:07:25
so I got one point okay Andrew I said the Russian World Cup which was in 2018
01:07:31
yeah so I didn't wait isn't that six years ago uh four years ago every four it's every four but 2018 was six years
01:07:39
ago 2022
01:07:54
what year was the uh do you know who was in the final um that's a great question when did
01:08:00
Germany beat Brazil 7-1 oh I remember watching that everyone was very mad at that
01:08:07
um and I think I was at like a cty it was France V Croatia oh I I did not know
01:08:14
that good for them yeah okay okay so you each got one point he cut out the part of me thinking it
01:08:20
was six years ago and if not can you cut out the part of me asking to cut out the
01:08:25
part of me thinking it was six years we're gonna do a slow zoom on your face for both you thinking it was six years
01:08:30
ago and then asking to take out that you thought it was six years ago perfect uh soccer fans we love you BTS stands we
01:08:37
love you everyone we love soccer you win I got canceled yeah there it is it's in
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the comments all right well that's been it for this this week your boy form and figuring out which World Cup was
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