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But yeah, okay, we should talk about this Google event. Yeah. Or is it a Google event? I Okay, look at us. We are the Google
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event now. We are gonna actually tell you about what these phones have on it because that event I like that idea was pretty brutal in terms of the event.
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It was a combination of a late night show, a morning talk show and like the
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Super Smash Brothers everyone is here intro cut scene and an infomercial. Yeah, the QVC.
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So, let's just talk about the phones first and then we can talk about what the happened with them. Um, so
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yo, what is up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. We're back. We're all finally back in the same room. No, we're not. Yeah, Adam's here.
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Adam's not here. Adam's not here. But we do have Mariah. We do have Mariah. We're almost all back. And Mariah is here as well. Uh,
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yeah, this we've got a lot to talk about today. The pixel event was as of the day of recording today. Yes.
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Um it's hard to even call it a pixel event, but it it happened. Um and we got to talk about that. We got
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to talk about some other stuff. Uh but first, I just want to show you guys this. This is the thing that I was going
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to get for the two weeks that I was not here. Can you bite it? Uh it's I could It's kind of heavy,
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though. I don't want to like break my teeth on it. It's a It's a medal. It's a gold medal for uh ultimate frisbee in
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the world games which was held in Chandu, China. Uh this medal uh means a
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lot to me obviously, but it's also pandash-shaped. You can see the ears on it. Oh, I have a couple notes from China. One of
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them is I've never seen a city lean more into a single animal than I have Chundu
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and the giant panda. panda statues, panda artwork, panda souvenirs, panda
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metals, panda everything. It was very cool. Uh, we got to see a giant panda. They mostly sleep, so it wasn't super
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exciting, but we got to see them. And yeah, a lot more a lot more electric cars in China, I also noticed. And this
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is one of the things I knew I was going to see. I'll probably end up going back to China at some point to check the stuff out, but a lot of BYD cars. A lot.
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Oh, yeah. A lot. Bring your dollars, build your dreams. Yeah. They all say build your dreams on the back, and you kind of have to know.
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Uh, we called lots of There's no Uber. It was called DD. Lots of De's are BY cars. So, that was fun.
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I do want to say, Marquez, that we're actually very proud of you. Well, thank you. Yeah, I missed you guys. It was It was a lot
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of uh we were in this athletes village the entire time. I guess similar to an Olympic village
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essentially, but uh they kind of turned this international hotel complex into like a place where all the athletes from
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all the sports from all the countries all stay. Wow. And uh there's this huge dining hall where you kind of just show up
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every day and there's everybody wearing all their, you know, warm-ups for whatever sport they play. And you could
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meet people who play different sports or try to guess what sport they play. Uh and I learned a lot about how tugof-war
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works and what cf ball is and fistball and other sports that I didn't know
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about before watching these. World Games is not the Olympics, but World Games is essentially the Olympics
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for sports that are not yet in or not currently in the Olympics. Got it. Olympics to oo.
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Yeah, it's like just like the Olympics. It's every four years. It's in a new location. Last uh cycle four years ago
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was in Birmingham, Alabama. Uh this time it was in Chundu, China. Uh and they have this Yeah. This village.
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Crazy. Two different heard Birmingham is the Chandu of the
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United States. Okay. So crazy. That's not a crazy take. But yeah, we on our uh on our quest for this
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medal, we played five games in 5 days. We had three pool play games. We played Japan, then we played Germany, then we
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played China, the home country. It was very exciting. Thousands of people there. Very loud crowd. Super cool.
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Then we had semi-finals against France and finals against Canada. Wow. You had two games that went to we call
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it Universe Point. I'm saying I haven't played this in forever. But next point win pretty much. The Germany one was
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crazy because you guys are on defense, right? which is much harder to to score. And then the Canada one, you pulled it
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through. You were on that point also. Universe point hold and universe point break. Yeah, we we kind of saw
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everything. Yeah, the Germany Well, I wasn't on the the Dline for the break, but we got a break on Universe against
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Germany and we got a clean hold on Universe against Canada. And you were on the final point. Yeah, pretty awesome. That's pretty sick.
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There is a really cool uh sort of inset topography thing on the middle. Yeah.
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Do you know what this is supposed to be? I don't know if it's a specific topography. It is. looks it looks like topography, but I don't know if that's like the country or the or the town we
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were in. Changdu does have a lot of mountains, but I don't know if that that's specifically the area we were in.
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It was very fun and uh I will probably be back. Congratulations. Thank you. It will be in the Olympics eventually
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and when you know they'll know who to call. The IOC, the International Olympic Committee watches all these events. So
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hopefully they liked what they saw. Do you know why? So in for the audio listeners inside of the medal opens up and inside the medal there's a mini
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metal. And it's got a magnet on it. No. And it does. Oh, right. And it's got like a little
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thing that pops out of it when you shake it. Tiny medallion. Oh, you can open it. You can like have a little thing to put
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a key or something. Yeah. Put on my keys. Oh, your Le Boooo could have its own
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metal, too. If you wanted. Yeah. I should say there's two animals that they lean into.
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It was kind of the pairing of a giant panda and the monkey. And so the metal is shaped like a panda with the ears.
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You open it up and inside there's a tiny metal magnetized to it with the with the monkey on. Do you know why they did that?
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Just cuz you can. All right. But yeah. Okay. We should talk about this Google event. Yeah. Or is it a Google event?
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I Okay, look at us. We are the Google event now. We are going to actually tell you about what these phones have on it
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because that event I like that idea was pretty brutal in terms of the event. It was a combination of a late night
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show, a morning talk show, and like the Super Smash Brothers everyone is here intro cut scene
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and infomercial. Yeah, the QVC. So, let's just talk about the phones first and then we can talk about what
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the happened. Um, so there's a bunch of new phones.
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There's the Pixel 10, the Pixel 10 Pro, Pixel 10 Pro Max, and sorry, Jeez, yeah,
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Pixel 10 Pro XL and the Pixel 10 Pro Fold. Uh, lots of really great names. easy
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names. Um they're all the same prices as last year and frankly
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there's not that much that's actually different about them. There's a couple interesting things like the foldable now
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is IP68 rated C2 G2 in all of these phones. Pixel snap. I actually think that's my favorite
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feature. That's probably the biggest thing. There's magnets in all of these phones and so now they can attach and they're strong too. They're like actually firm
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and so they have these accessories like they're called pixel snap. There's a charger. There's a little uh dock you can throw it on, but you can also throw
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this on Mag Safe accessories and it firmly Yeah. sits on them. The clip you used in the impressions
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video is like nerve-wracking. He flips it with his hand and it just
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stays on the like ring thing the whole time. I asked Google like why did you brand this pixel snap? cuz now is if OPPO
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adopts G2, is it going to be OPPO clipped? And there's going to be and Google said that it's just the G2
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standard, but they optimize the magnets and everything, which you can you can
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tell cuz they have they have a ring adapter, like one of those ring things and you put it on the back of the phone and no matter which way you turn it, it
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stays sturdy. like it seems like they have done a lot of optimization to make sure that the magnets are very strong
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and like the friction of the of the little felt in between them like all of that it seems very well thought out and
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it worked in my you know hour or two of hands-on very well so I think that might be my favorite feature but yeah you know tensor 5 is in
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there it's a bit more powerful we haven't benchmarked it yet but I don't think it's going to magically be
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Snapdragon 8 elite level it's not the focus it's still a pixel and all of its clever software features and AI and
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conversational photo editing and all of that. That's what makes the Pixel the Pixel. So, they still look the same. They still have a lot of the same camera
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hardware. They have similar battery sizes, slightly bigger batteries last year, uh, than last year, but in
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general, slightly brighter displays, too. But, yeah, they're pretty similar to last year. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Tensor, at least
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it's TSMC this time, so it's supposed to be quite a bit more efficient. Yeah. They said the CPU is 34% faster. There's
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a 60% faster TPU, so that means it's got way more Tensor cores. It's going to be running a lot of the models natively on
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device. And there's a new Gemini Nano model that runs 2.6 times faster and 2x as efficiently in some use cases, they
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said. Yeah. Which I don't know, they this year they're clearly leaning into a lot of the AI features that can happen natively
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on your phone that can sort of fetch information from other apps within the Google ecosystem. Yeah. Yeah. So, if you
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were hoping for like a 100 watt charging or a brand new 100 megapixel camera or like the most incredible display of all
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time or some other crazy raw horsepower stuff, it's not. They didn't call it the best display
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ever on the c on the live stream though, which was interesting. I was like, according to who? Some choice words. Yeah,
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was according to who? According to who? They said for the second year in a row is what they said too. Oh, right. They did say that. They did
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put the third camera on the base, which I'm very I'm excited for.
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Triple cameras. Lemongrass baller color. Everyone was wrong about that as per usual. Do you
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want to kind of really quickly just go over why then if you have triple cameras on the 10, why you might go to the Pro and Pro XL
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because it's a little harder to see by one, if you watch the event because they didn't say anything about it, or two, if
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you're just looking hardware wise, they all they look exactly the same. Yeah, I mean this is going to be similar because I've talked about this in the
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past. The Pixel 10 is going to be the best deal. $799, you get the most for your money there for $200 extra dollars
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to get the Pixel 10 Pro. What do you get? And I don't know how much better, but you'll get slightly better triple cameras, right? It's still 5x optical
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zoom, but they'll let you super res zoom into 100x on the Pro. It was pretty impressive in some of the
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cases. Yeah, we've seen some some decent shots. I've also seen some pretty bad looking shots. But I think there are some cases
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where you could be impressed by 100x does AI upscaling to be clear and it sometimes makes
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on anything beyond 30x it does super res zoom or prores zoom whatever prores zoom on the pros.
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Yeah. Um it is a slightly higher resolution display. It is a slightly brighter
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display at its peak brightness. 3,300 nits versus 3,000 which logarithmically is the same.
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Yeah. You won't notice that. Yeah. Um, and it is in fact a slightly smaller 100 mAh smaller battery probably
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to fit those larger cameras. Yeah. So, it's a 4,870 mAh versus 4,970 mAh on
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the base. Um, aside from that, it's double it's it's more RAM, 16 gigs of RAM versus 12. And you can get more max
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storage. It starts at 256 instead of 128. Yeah. And yeah, they all have G2 blah blah
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blah. That's that's basically what you get for your X. XL does get 2.2, 2, which is the 25 watt. Yes.
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Well, the Pros are both 2.2. Sorry, the XL. Just the XL. The XL gets 2.2. Only the XL. Just the XL.
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And the Pros also have better selfie cameras, 48 megapixel selfie cameras.
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So, yeah, like you said, the XL is $1199 and gets even faster charging and
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obviously the larger battery and larger screen. And that's kind of it. So, I I think most people will get the most
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value for their money out of the regular Pixel 10, which is great. Then you have the fold 1799 that's got your IP68
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that's got your Pixel Snap G2 that's got Tensor and 16 gigs of RAM and more
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storage and slightly thinner bezels. So basically the the hinge being thinner on
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the left means it's like a more centered normal looking closed screen and then when it opens it's still there's still a
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crease but it looks fine open 8 in screen punch cutout. Uh yeah, normal
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looking phone for that. I think it's the same cameras as last year. Maybe it's a new primary camera and then the other two are the same. Yeah, it's a new 48 megapixel primary
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camera. Um there are some small things that are different between the regular one and the Pros. Uh the Pros are the
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only ones that get the 8K 30 fps with video boost and the night side video where you don't
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get that on the regular one, which is sort of an interesting um thing to leave out. Artificial. Yeah, there's a Pro Controls
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camera mode on the Pros, whereas you don't get the Pro Controls mode on the regular one if you're really hardcore about that kind of stuff.
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You get a better selfie camera on the Pros. So, you get the 42 megapixel dual PD selfie camera, whereas the regular
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one has 10.5 megapixels. There's zoned UFS storage on the higher storage models
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of the Pros, which I had to look up what this was. Basically, they segment out the storage for storing different types
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of data so that it is like faster to retrieve because when you're trying to access memory on like a one terabyte
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hard drive, it can take forever to like go through the hard drive and index everything and then bring it out to you.
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So, they split it up into like different NAND segments. I guess this is only on the 512 and 1 TB models.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then yeah, technically 45 watt charging on the XL,
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but I don't know whether or not that's actually going to charge faster. Famously on the Galaxy S20 like Ultra, I
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think it was, it technically charged at 45 watts, but in practice it was like a 1 minute faster charge. Yeah, the the
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charging number that you see is often basically the peak number that it can achieve, which you only achieve that
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briefly at the very beginning of the charging curve at a few% battery and then it immediately drops down as it
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manages thermals and and fills up the battery or whatever. So, you might only see 45 watts for 2 seconds,
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right? So, we don't know. We'll we'll test that as well. The review is in the works as you can probably imagine. And then LTPO basically LTPO, right?
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LTO. So, you get 60 to 120 on the regular one, 1 to 120 on the Pro. So, there you You don't have to watch
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the event to learn all that about these new phones. Uh the event though was uh
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how do I even explain this? It was hosted by Jimmy Fallon. It was on the Google channel. It had
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about 20 celebrity guests probably more in various capacities like Lando Norris
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was one, Jiannis Takmpo was one, some photographer Steph Curry that I just the
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list goes on. Jeremy Lynn. Jeremy Lynn briefly. The beginning. Yeah. Um,
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the Jonas Brothers. If you asked Google why they did it like this, I think their explanation would be
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we wanted to reach uh the normies people. Like the tech people already
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know about these phones. They watched the hands-on impressions video an hour before the event happened. But for the normal people who will buy a phone based
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on what Jimmy Fallon says, this was for them. And to that I would say I don't
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think that worked. I don't think that's gone. I would say name a person you know that's not in our scene. That's like are
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you ready to watch the Google event today? Like who do you know that's like a non techy person that's watching a tech event?
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There's a possibility that on Jimmy Fallon's regular late night show he plays a clip from the Google event that
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he's hosting or like some short form content they pull out of it and they're like, "Oh, that's Jimmy Kimmel. Oh Jimmy Fallon Jimmy Fallon, whatever."
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Lots of jimmies. The S2 Jimmies. Yeah, I do think it's smart of them to bring
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in a bunch of new audiences like this though. I would love to see the number on what new audience it is and how much of the
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audience is just us who watch it all the time and are like, "Did you guys say anything about the
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products?" But like think about if they got all of these influencers and sports players and photographers and people to
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like post on their own social media accounts. Then at least they're sort of like the people don't need to watch the
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event, right? As long as they can clip things and like put it in the contract for all of the individual influencers to
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post about it. I still don't know if that is converting like they're hoping to. How much money do you think they spent on just
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celebrity cameos? Yeah, that that was an expensive event for sure. We were joking that they could
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have spent all that money on 15 minutes of Taylor Swift and it probably would have had better conversions and people would watch. If she announced
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her new album on the Pixel event instead of her boyfriend's podcast, it would
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the market share would be through the roof. There was a really funny um Onion meme that was like uh what's his name? Her
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boyfriend but Travis Kelce receives invoice for Taylor Swift podcast appearance.
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This was a a phone announcement event masquerading as an infomercial. masquerading as a organic
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celebrities hanging out and being cool and showing you their phone stuff type of thing. It was it was it was very it
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was unique. I'll give them that. It was uh ambitious because it was live.
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Yeah. Um and they did, to their credit, pull off some pretty impressive live tech
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demo. the phone call thing with the Spanish speaking influencer who was talking on the phone. Having seen that
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demo in person fail many times. I was watching that intently like this
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could go horribly. Like this could go really wrong. And it actually went pretty well. Did while I was checking the mail, did they do the live translation? Are you
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serious? Like right when I left the room, it went pretty well. There was one time where she said something and then the
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other end it came out, I am a crazy person or something like that. Did say something weird. Yeah. Um, I don't think that's what she meant to
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say, but every other time it was actually it landed. It hit the high note at the end. It landed and they said like an announcement. It'll go on sale in
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Mexico. Oh, wow. Congrats. And it's like in the AI voice, it sounded kind of like Jimmy. So, yeah. Yeah.
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It is impressive that they're able to generate an AI voice of you within two seconds of your voice. Yeah. With the intonations and the
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timing and like speeding up and slowing down, that is very impressive tech demo. It's not exactly, you know, what your
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voice would sound like, but it's close enough. I feel like that could also be based on the many many hours of Google
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Assistant audio you are providing. They do claim or I guess they claim the phone calls is not recorded but that
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doesn't mean they don't have your voice. They said it takes only two sec two minutes or two seconds of your voice to
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clone it is what they say. It is that is a an easy thing for Google to say when they have
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thousands of hours of your voice. It works on both ends. So the person you're calling doesn't have to have a picture. That is very true. Yeah. So, it's just
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doing it live. Actually, to be fair, most people you are calling don't probably don't have a pixel,
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right? If I had to give my kudos to anything in this event, I thought the set was fantastic. The set was really well made.
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The the thing about it though is seeing some of our like tech journalist friends posting from there. The way they had to
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watch the event was like the set was pushed further and all the cameras were in front of where Jimmy and the people
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Yeah. Yeah. So, like they didn't even get to feel like they were the event was to them. It felt like it was to the cameras.
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It just felt like this was not for journalists at all. I've watched every time I watch an event like this,
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I kind of in my head try to picture what I think the brief was and like how I
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think it's being produced. And I could see a lot of reading off teleprompterss and like camera to the side like look at
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your prompts over here then read the next prompt over here. And then a little bit of riffing in between like Jimmy
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Fallon would go off script once in a while. Oh, are you allowed to say Apple? Like a random line here or there where
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it's it's just kind of like keeping it fun. Tensor. Yeah, I could feel some of that. And I
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honestly think Google probably thinks it went pretty well. Oh, definitely.
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You know, just based on the fact that nothing derailed the tech demos worked based on how complex getting that many
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famous people in one room and trying to get them to all say the right lines and nothing disasteredly happening.
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Yeah. Nothing like gifable with like a missed handshake or anything crazy like the last one like or like or like when the Gemini demo
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failed twice on the Pixel and only worked on the Galaxy S25. Yeah. Nothing like that happens. So, they maybe they're happy about it.
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They're probably stoked. There are a couple really quick uh fold updates that I want to mention because this year the
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fold is almost exactly the same as last year and so a lot of people are going to like wonder if they should ever upgrade
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to this thing. Uh, and we talked about IP68, which is which is a big deal, but they also um added well they added Pixel
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Snap to that which is interesting. And there's all these Pixel Snap accessories like we talked about. And there's a stand. And they specifically both in the
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video and the keynote and also when they came and visited and showed us them demoed the Pixel Fold being open and
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being magnetized to the stand to try to like showcase how strong the magnets were. Mhm. It did slouch very slightly to the
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left. I do remember seeing. Okay. But that's at least quite interesting in its own right. You know, being
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and how like weighted the stand is because what David's explaining is when it's open, it's only magnetized to the
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right side. So now it is like hanging precariously off the side, but the stand is still standing, which obviously takes
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a lot of precise. You don't want to stand to be Yeah. really heavy, but it still has to be able to hold it like that.
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Um, it was pretty impressive. I didn't see it slouching, but I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, they also updated the made you
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look thing for kids where they have new animations so the kids can like, you know, laugh at the I want to actually try that because
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Yeah, you should try it. It seems like a great idea, but the amount of times I've had to like try and get Lane or my niece
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of like yelling and screaming the like words that they love and clapping like I can't imagine a silly little fish on the
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screen is going to be better than the 20 parents like basically begging the kid to just look at that.
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I would love to try it cuz it's seeing as it's Google and they had it last year on their phone, they had an opportunity
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to kill this feature or double down on it and they doubled down on it. They added more Facebook.
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I think it is a perfect T-Mobile store and a parent like oh my
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kid will finally look at the camera that's going to work perfectly let's pay
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buy it and then see it maybe I don't know I want to try it if I get a fold I'll yeah and there are a couple more
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features that are actually taking advantage of the opening screen which is nice there's the the new camera app
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which when you take a photo it shows the photo you just took on the left and it has this dynamic stacking feature where
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when you take more photos, it kind of like moves the photo in and it stacks them on top of each other so you can see the whole photo roll, which is nice.
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Instant shot, I think, is what they're calling it. Instant shot. And then, uh, they now say that you can drag and drop images and
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links from like one app to another by holding and dropping. It didn't work in our demo, but they were confused why it
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didn't work. So, hopefully that bug is fixed by the time it launches. That's actually very, very helpful.
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Yeah, I also really liked that just like um how if you have dual apps open and you can slide the middle slider and like
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80% of the screen is one and you can swap between them really quick and you can flip them. A lot of like really quick intuitive um
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multi-functional like windows. The reason I've been waiting for the trifold for so long is because I've never really
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seen the use of the uh hot dog style foldable, you know, whereas the I I see a ton of Galaxy Z
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Flips on the subway because I think that that is a lot more it's easier for people to like see and understand.
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Uh and also it's a square aspect ratio when you do that. So yeah, you know, um yeah. Yeah, the software features are
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really what make the pixel. Totally. And there's some interesting stuff in there that might be tops of the
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people's list again. So, we will get to that. But of course, before we get there, trivia.
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[Music] It's been so long since I've heard that music.
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All right, guys. Another event, which means another edition of
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Were you paying attention? I wish. Dude, what? We'll just have to pretend it was there.
00:23:47
Is it headto head? Uh, no. It's It's supposed to be Were you paying attention? But that my that button broke and we're not going to fix
00:23:53
it right now. One of us could do it. Uh, yeah. You want to give it a shot? Were you paying attention?
00:24:00
Good enough. All right, guys. Sorry, I got distracted. But actually, no, I need I need to complain while we're talking about Google stuff because Google AI
00:24:06
overview ruined my life yesterday. And the day before because I uh had a
00:24:14
flight from hell uh where I was uh Michigan heaven eventually. Hell, Michigan. Yeah. How'd you know? Uh
00:24:19
where um long story short, I had a layover through Chicago. OD O'Hare. And uh there was weather and
00:24:26
O'Hare was shut down. And I was trying to figure out how long O'Hare was going to be shut down for so to know if I
00:24:31
needed to rebook my flight like that moment. And so naturally, I go to google.com and I Google is O'Hare shut
00:24:39
down or is there a ground stoppage at O'Hare or all the necessary things. And of course, when you Google that, the
00:24:45
first thing that comes up is a Google AI overview that will always say, "Yes, it's shut down." And then you click the
00:24:51
link and it's from some article from 2017. Like, it's completely irrelevant and stupid information, and you can't
00:24:57
disable that. Uh, anyway, that's my rant. Let's get back to you. Oh, yeah.
00:25:02
Close enough. All right. After using the A word, what did Google
00:25:11
VP Adrienne Loftton refer to iPhone users as?
00:25:16
Oh yeah, I got this. Think I remember. Were you paying attention, man?
00:25:22
Yeah, I know. One of the rare offscript moments. Apple, can we say that? Surprisingly,
00:25:29
when they showed a an an a low light camera sample, they did show it was d
00:25:34
like it was directly from the iPhone 16 Pro. I was surprised about that. Oh, really? Yeah. Usually they just say
00:25:39
competitors leading device. There was someone recording the Jonas Brothers at that party at the end with
00:25:44
an iPhone in the background. Epic. Sure. They loved them. Yeah. Well, we'll think about that and the answers will be at the end like
00:25:50
usual. So, we'll be right back. [Music]
00:26:01
All right, welcome back. Let's talk Pixel software. The thing that makes the Pixel the Pixel. There's a couple
00:26:07
interesting things that were announced. Some of them are exclusive to the Pixel 10. Some of them are just going to be
00:26:13
available for everyone, but they're getting announced with this phone. So, that's great, too. Uh, the one that's
00:26:19
Pixel 10 only that seems interesting that I think might not forever be Pixel 10 only is called Magic Q.
00:26:27
It's very Google. Google knows everything about you already, right? It knows your calendar events. It knows all the emails that you get. It knows your
00:26:33
flight reservations. It knows your hotel reservations. It knows your lunch reservations at the restaurant because
00:26:39
you get a confirmation email for everything. So, if you get a text message with someone asking about one of
00:26:46
those reservations, you'll get a little magic qard thing that pops up at the bottom that is just a prompt to answer
00:26:53
the question for you without you having to dig back in and find the email. Kind of like the auto reply is there and
00:26:59
you can press it and it can Yeah, it's an auto reply that's pulling from some other service in your Google
00:27:05
account somewhere. It seems to work pretty well. There's a couple instances where it makes perfect sense. Like
00:27:12
someone asking about a flight info. Hey, when does that flight land? Oh, okay. Well, I know the answer already cuz I
00:27:18
know the last email you got about that flight says it would land at this time. Boom. Here's your answer. Something that was surprising to me about it is that in
00:27:24
like text messages, if someone asks, "Where are we eating?" or "What's your flight info?" it grabs it and it just
00:27:30
puts it in like a regular string. So, it's just like we're going to Cracker Barrel. It just says Cracker Barrel.
00:27:37
Yeah. But I I feel like dress it up. I'm surprised that they don't do that plus a Google Maps link or something.
00:27:43
Yeah, actually that would make sense. You might usually just say the name of the place, but usually when I send someone a location, I send them a Google
00:27:49
Maps. If I'm asking you like where is the reservation we're going to tonight, I would almost definitely want to know
00:27:55
where it is. I don't even remember. Yeah. Yeah. This the feature demo we tried just was like typing the name of the
00:28:01
restaurant. Really? That's all it did? Yeah. Oh, that's two points of failure. like like it could already, you know, grab
00:28:08
the wrong email. Like like I said, if if it's grabbing if if I Google is Chicago airport shut down and it's pulling
00:28:14
things from 6 years ago. Yes. You know, who's to say it's not going to pull a reservation from 6 years ago and then who's to say it will pull the wrong
00:28:21
Google Maps link too and then all of a sudden theoretically theoretically though
00:28:26
you've seen you know the restaurant you're going to or like or like you sort
00:28:31
of know your flight number kind of you just don't remember the like
00:28:36
specifics, right? So you can like verify whether or not it's real, right? You know, I think like in terms of a restaurant,
00:28:41
it would most likely be like, well, if you're asking for it tonight, you're in New York. It's probably going to be the one in New York or the one that's today,
00:28:48
you know, like I'm asking for today. I asked Gemini yesterday about a today thing. AI overview is a lot weirder because
00:28:54
it's using the whole inter internet where this is all using the stuff like in your calendar, email. It's very it's
00:29:00
so much more niche of what it is. I'd be more confused of what if I have two reservations. What if
00:29:06
the amount of times you have probably three different flights booked at some point and as long as it's not like
00:29:12
if you're just like what flight when's your flight this week, you might have four different answers for that or like
00:29:18
those things get confusing. Wonder will it give you options? Cuz like you said, you kind of know what it
00:29:23
is or what that person might be. There's a screenshot in the event of two different options. Oh, really? One of them had two options and you can pick
00:29:29
one. So, I'm going to have to test this a little bit. I mean, we tested the couple setup versions they had for us,
00:29:35
and obviously they worked because they were set up, but uh it seems like one of those things
00:29:41
that Google can pull off because they know a lot about you and they can just surface that information, and it's convenient.
00:29:46
Uh it's the type of thing that Apple would like to do with Siri, but they haven't been able to figure out how to
00:29:51
do it yet. Yeah. So, well, and also Apple's so gung-ho about privacy and it's been their whole thing that they're they kind
00:29:58
of set themselves up for failure here because Google's always just been like, "We use your data to create magical
00:30:04
experiences." Whereas Apple's like, "We don't touch that at all. We don't look at it. We don't know what it is. It's just a
00:30:10
random string of numbers to us." And it's also like Apple, it's not an Apple uh email that you're getting. It's a
00:30:17
Google email that you're pulling into your mail app for Apple, but Apple doesn't see that information. Well, unless you're on iCloud or whatever.
00:30:24
Yeah. But so it's like it's not like quite onetoone with like what Google can offer because Google has a calendar that
00:30:30
you're putting events into. Google has Gmail. Google has all these other things. Yeah. This is definitely Google at its best like showcasing that Open AI wishes
00:30:38
it could be this. Apple wishes it could be this. Anthropic wishes it could be this. But Google has always been the best positioned to be able to be this
00:30:45
agentic as Rick Oster will say and try to explain to Jimmy Fallon. I will say the the like calling an airline and it
00:30:53
automatically populating like all your airline the information is so nice in the phone so you're not like on
00:31:00
speakerphone digging in your email typing United and Google Gmail search sucks so badly.
00:31:05
It's one of those extremely specific things that I think I'm going to love that feature. I often, and this is so
00:31:12
specific because I carry two phones. Like I'll go in and I'll call with one phone and I'll pull up my calendar on
00:31:18
the other phone and I'm like, "Man, this would suck if I had to do both these things on my phone." One phone. But this is like perfectly designed
00:31:24
where it's like, "Okay, I can pull up the exact information I need and it's going to show it to me when I need to see it." Yeah. Great.
00:31:29
It's great cuz every time I have to pull up the information to talk to the agent about it, I have to either put it on speaker phone or risk not hearing them
00:31:36
speak to me back. So, yeah, it would be very nice to have. I'm wondering if they if it does any of
00:31:42
this magic Q stuff in any other apps cuz the main two apps that they showed were messages and the phone app.
00:31:47
Yeah, but I would love to see this in Gmail and other apps like that. I think it'd be cool. Yeah, we'll try it out.
00:31:53
Yeah, I think that that's probably their biggest one. So, that's Magic Q coming to Pixel at first and maybe some other stuff later.
00:31:59
Yeah. The other thing that I thought was really interesting was uh conversational
00:32:04
editing. So, you can Yes. use a text box to edit a photo instead of going into
00:32:10
the actual tools and hitting edit and going, "All right, saturation. Oh, let me crop. Oh, let me turn brightness up. Oh, let me do all these other things or
00:32:16
even some of the magic editor stuff like erase a person in the background." You now have this text box that you can type
00:32:24
into or talk to and you can go, "Hey, make this photo look better and brighten
00:32:30
it up and delete that plastic bag in his hand." and it will semantically parse
00:32:35
what you said, understand what you said, and then take action on the photo using
00:32:40
the tools built in and it will do what you said. I tried a bunch of stuff. It did what I
00:32:45
asked. I was very impressed with it. It was very good. Um, you can get kind of carried away and
00:32:50
just be like, add a hot air balloon in the photo. It'll just do it. I think that the only thing it doesn't want to do is adjust faces.
00:32:56
So, kind of the same as Magic Editor. Uh, but the fact that it understands what I'm saying and does it is really
00:33:03
convenient and good. And it can do a lot of local editing, too. Like the demo we had, uh, she had
00:33:08
she said, "Turn my dress red." And it just did it. And it was very, very local
00:33:13
to her dress. Yeah. Which was very surprising. And this is like great for not people
00:33:18
like us, but for normal people who don't know how to use magic eraser or don't know how to use all the different who
00:33:24
don't even know that there's an edit button really in there. But if they can click that and just the like chat box comes up and they can just say like,
00:33:31
"Could you zoom in on this a little bit and like get that dog out of the background?" Like anyone can do that and it seems pretty
00:33:37
good. One of the people showing us our demo said pretty much every photo they take that they care about at all, they just say, "Make this look better to every
00:33:44
photo and just see what happens." Just Yeah. It tends to just like kind of brighten things up and like crop and put
00:33:50
your subject in the middle and just generally make it look like a better photo. It's pretty good. Yeah. Uh on top of that, if you want to
00:33:55
do that before you have to run it through an AI model, they now have the camera coach feature.
00:34:01
Yeah. Um and this is basically Gemini, it's effectively like Gemini live basically
00:34:06
talking to you about what's going through your viewfinder. Yeah. So if you're taking a photo of a friend
00:34:11
or something like that and you're off center, if you're to the right or if you haven't straighten the horizon line, things like that, it will talk to you in
00:34:19
real time and be like, "Turn a little bit to your left. Get a little closer to the person. do this and um kind of
00:34:25
teaches you how to take I guess a better photo. Yeah, it was cool to walk through it once.
00:34:30
I hate this one so much. I don't think I would ever use it again. No, you wouldn't cuz you know what you're doing. But even if I didn't know what I was
00:34:37
doing, like I just feel like I'm taking a picture the way I want to take the picture. And if I wanted a coach to help
00:34:44
me take a professional picture, by that point I I just have someone else take it for me.
00:34:49
Yeah. I think the people who don't care about how well-framed a picture is don't care about getting coached to frame it
00:34:54
well and just like the memory of the photo rather than the This is the this is the feature for boomers for sure.
00:35:00
It is. And but like it's slow. It takes a while to do it. And like I'm just imagining you're at let's say like
00:35:07
Disney and you're now all these parents their kids are meeting the characters and each parent is now doing Camera
00:35:12
Coach. This line is now a 10-hour wait because each person's taking 10 minutes
00:35:18
to like slowly listen to it and adjust and tell the kid to smile and like turn.
00:35:23
It's I don't know. This This feels like a flop. The pitch in the event was Alex Cooper
00:35:31
saying like, "You no longer have to teach your like boyfriend or spouse or
00:35:36
whatever how to take the perfect picture of you. Now the camera coach will teach them.
00:35:43
M maybe that's cool. I don't know. Is this something you have to actively turn on or is it on by default?
00:35:49
Yeah, you have to. There's a little button in the corner cuz like I feel like most people wouldn't go out of their way to actively turn it on, but the Pixel now already
00:35:56
it'll tell me you need to raise the phone higher and I didn't ask it to tell me that. Oh, it does that automatically? Yeah. And it's like
00:36:02
it does some automatic suggestions like if it's if the lens is blurry too, it'll tell you to clean it off.
00:36:08
stuff like that. And it has the level or you can at least have the leveling thing on which I think is great. Some people probably just
00:36:14
don't know what it is. It has a nice vibration motor that that vibrates when it hits the level. Yeah, it's great.
00:36:19
Um and if you still are not good at taking pictures,
00:36:24
it has an improved best take mode. True. which was a feature from many pixels ago which basically samples many
00:36:31
different moments over the course of before you took the photo and after you took the photo and then combines
00:36:36
different photos into one with all the best aspects of each photo. Yeah, I think they were saying like it
00:36:42
will either choose the photo that is the best if there is one that just everything works out or if it happens to
00:36:48
be like this is the closest one but we had to pull a face looking from one
00:36:53
photo like they'll it will do that. Yeah. Yeah. And let you choose and still I think
00:36:58
it'll still have the carousel of all the photos taken and you can it like highlights what it thinks the best one is, but it lets you choose
00:37:05
between all of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, add me got better. It'll do pets now.
00:37:10
Doom pets. Doom pets. That's good. Also, apparently it works with more people.
00:37:15
Actually, you know what's funny? I think AdMe is probably best with pets. It takes so long. Remember how many group shots we've tried to do with the dog and
00:37:21
the dog is never looking at the camera? Everyone else is looking at the camera, but the dog is never looking at the camera. But that's different, though. Add me is
00:37:26
where you take the photo and then you swap, right? Yeah. But I'm saying like I'm going to
00:37:32
take this photo with everyone else and then I'm just going to get the dog. Like there's no way I can get the dog to look
00:37:38
at the camera. So I'm just going to do me or you take the photo of the dog and then you No, I'll take the photo of everyone else
00:37:45
and then I'll take the photo of you. No, the dog takes the photo.
00:37:50
I guess I'm thinking like I have a group shot and I want the dog in the shot. So, I'm going to take the photo of everyone
00:37:55
else and then I'm going to have someone, you know, take the picture with me. So, we got all the people and then I'm just going to do the dog.
00:38:00
Yeah. Cuz the dog is going to be distracted in some way so I can just focus on getting the dog to look. I think they need dog face swap.
00:38:07
I think they might have
00:38:12
Pixel 11. They're going to have it soon because of all these AI features. I do want to note they did not say this in
00:38:17
the keynote, but this is the first phone to integrate uh C2PA content credentials into the phone. If you don't know what
00:38:23
that is, we made a video on the studio channel about it like two years ago with the Leica M11P. Uh we talked about
00:38:29
content credentials. What's the 5-second TLDDR? 5second TLDDR is that there is a
00:38:34
metadata history of every edit that has been made to the image and you're able to see all the changes that were made.
00:38:40
So because all these AI features are being integrated into these photos, now there's a trail that you can follow back
00:38:47
um unless someone takes a screenshot and then you're screwed. So updated pano mode supports the 5x lens. There's a new
00:38:54
feature called take a message. Uh and they were talking about we all get phone calls sometimes unfortunately. And um
00:39:02
when you don't answer them and then people leave a voicemail, you never you never read the voicemail. And this is
00:39:08
why visual sorry not read listen to the voicemail. This is why visual voicemail even became
00:39:14
a thing. It's great. Yeah. Visual voicemail is amazing where it transcribes the message. Now, not
00:39:19
only will it transcribe it, but it'll also send it to you in a message. Is that what it was?
00:39:24
It's just one more step. So, I can like treat it like a message and actually get to it instead of being like, "I wonder what voicemails I have."
00:39:31
Yeah, cuz I don't like to check voicemail. Absolutely not. Um, Notebook LM is now native on the
00:39:36
phone. So, pre-installed app. Pre-installed app. It's another little piece of bloatware for you. Yeah,
00:39:42
little Notebook LM. Yeah, that if you don't know what No big OM is, it's it's that Google AI app where you can
00:39:49
basically feed it a bunch of different sources of information like documents and stuff and then you can ask it to
00:39:54
make you like tests about things and it will create an AI podcast. There's a very funny YouTube video where the two
00:39:59
AI podcasters just uh say they took they talk about a document that just says pee
00:40:04
pee poo poo about 100,000 times and they get really philosophical about it. It's very funny.
00:40:10
Huh. And that's interesting you bring that up because peep peep. No, it's pretty much that way. Yeah, we
00:40:15
will link that in the show notes. Um, also Pixel Journal app,
00:40:20
they didn't even mention this in the keynote. It's true. What they did mention in the keynote is that they're trying to make it as easy
00:40:26
as possible to switch over from an iPhone. And that's what this is about. I think the only reason they made this was because I
00:40:33
don't actually know anyone who uses the iPhone Journal app, but if you do, I think that they're just trying to make it so that it's as
00:40:40
seamless as physically possible. This is kind of the sneaky low-key reason for a
00:40:45
lot of things that happen in the smartphone world where it looks like they're copying each other, but a lot of
00:40:50
it is just companies trying to give an equivalent experience on their own device to make it easier for people to
00:40:56
switch. If any of
00:41:01
the journal app we made a journal app and we have some googly stuff in it, so now will you
00:41:07
switch? They just try to offer as many equivalent experiences as they can. And this is a pretty blatant example of
00:41:14
that. For sure. Can we can we go into Ellis's tinfoil hat corner for a sec? Of course you can. Would love to. What's
00:41:20
up, Joe Rogan? Yeah. What's up? My name My name is uh No, I'm not going to make that. Ellis Rogan. Oh. Oh my god. The first
00:41:28
trivia point is on the board. Um, no. I've See, I always thought that the Apple Journal app was because
00:41:35
Apple has access to lots of information about you, right? They have access to where you go and how many steps you took
00:41:42
to get there. And uh, and if you use Apple Maps, they have access to what your favorite modes of transportation
00:41:48
are. And if you wear an Apple Watch, they have access to a bunch of your biometric data. And uh a lot of that
00:41:54
data is like an anonymized and it's not really shared crossplatform. But one of
00:41:59
the things that they did not have access to was what was in your brain because of the way iMessage was structured. Like
00:42:05
they couldn't really like get into your thoughts and tell how you're feeling and stuff like that because of end encryption.
00:42:10
And so like Apple Journal gave them access to how you're feeling. And I
00:42:17
have, you know, I don't use Apple Journal, but I've always suspected that at your health data and your journal
00:42:22
data and your location data are sort of blended together to learn more things about you to help uh make future
00:42:30
predictive things that are not deployed yet. Uh Google does look and often sells
00:42:37
all of your stuff. Yeah. And they also, I don't think, read your text messages yet. I don't I don't think
00:42:43
they do. Uh, so this is just a way that they can get you to forfeit how you're feeling about certain things. I haven't
00:42:50
read the Pixel Journal like terms of service and their privacy agreement yet, but I'm going to because I suspect
00:42:56
this is so that they can I think sell you stuff. It's like your big sister reading your
00:43:01
journal except it's a trillion dollar company instead. Yeah, I think this is they they did actually have a line and I
00:43:07
want to go back and make sure I get it right about how they're going to treat this data because they did make a pretty big point to me about the privacy of the
00:43:14
data in the journal app. That's true. Um I you know with Apple I don't really know what they would do with that
00:43:19
information because they don't sell ads. So there's that advertising if you're Google user local
00:43:26
and you have all this information. It says no data collected on the on the Play Store. I don't know what that means, but
00:43:32
no data collected. It's a crazy line from Google. But I don't know if zero people use the Apple Journal app, but they still had to
00:43:38
make it. Then maybe they just don't care. You know what I mean? We we basically finished up with the software on the
00:43:44
phone. You didn't make music with Google Recorder. Oh, I forgot about this. I still don't. We were trying to figure this out.
00:43:50
They said that a lot of people like to do karaoke with the Google recorder or at least sing into the Google recorder.
00:43:56
And I think you were talking about the feature parody. Remember how the iPhone did studio quality mics and they made it
00:44:03
so that you could like you could do the studio mic which set made it in a different setting and it gave it the
00:44:08
reverb and stuff like that. Maybe this is that. But effectively what this is is in the Google recorder app
00:44:14
which by the way Google recorder app is really really good. It's always been really good. Um
00:44:19
you can now sing into it and then you can generate music of different genres
00:44:26
that will go along with your song. My problem with that is is that's not karaoke.
00:44:31
Unless like you're either singing a song that exists already and
00:44:36
Google's generating different music to it, which makes no sense to me, or you're writing lyrics and singing it
00:44:45
in a cadence and like a a tone, but you haven't made music for it yet. And now
00:44:51
Google, I I don't see where I have a counter. Pixel Studio app, the AI image
00:44:58
generation app. But that was also pointless. That's what I'm saying. Oh, that's my counter. It doesn't need to
00:45:04
make sense. This is I'm with you. This was the tech demo that I was like, I don't get why
00:45:10
anyone would do that. I truly have no idea why anyone would do that. Yeah. But you can you can autogenerate music
00:45:16
for the background. It's also, I think, just a way for Google to show that they have music generation that like that's here's
00:45:21
another thing that they can do with their AI. Like they can do video generation with V3, they can do image
00:45:27
generation, they can do text generation, and now they can also do music generation. Yeah, I think that's all it is.
00:45:34
Yeah, your pirate. It's like a tech demo. Uh there's also a watch and buds. So Pixel Watch 4
00:45:40
is once again a slight improvement in many dimensions to the Pixel watches that came before it.
00:45:46
Slightly longer battery life, slightly faster charging, both of which are great for a smartwatch. And the display is
00:45:52
slightly bigger with slightly smaller bezels, but also it's it's even more exaggerated in how do it is. Yeah.
00:45:58
That's the thing that struck me when I was playing with it. It just looks like a bubble. Yeah.
00:46:03
Like more than ever now. What are those like compasses that you have on like on top of like
00:46:08
compass? There's the there's lots of ones that are kind of like bubbled up uh
00:46:14
on top of like a maybe like a Swiss army like an army knife or like one of those like the containers that like matches
00:46:20
like a survival container and it has the little it looks like that where like the screen is domed also and it is
00:46:27
right. It's very noticeable. The display it's not even just cuz I think people understand like that the
00:46:32
glass is curved like that's been true for a while. I mean like the display under the glass is
00:46:39
also curved. Yeah. And so when you picture this like you can look at it from all these angles and
00:46:44
it just it it's like a bubble screen. It almost looks like the surface tension of like you fill a glass all the way up
00:46:50
with water and then like it's like bubbling over the top. Like it looks like that. It's pretty crazy. Um so it's a beautiful watch. Uh it is
00:46:57
also doing the material 3 expressive thing. It has a new dock. So the charger is on the side now instead of on the
00:47:04
back of the watch. Yeah. So, you pop it on the side and then obviously the display lights up and it charges faster, which is actually kind of cool. And I'm
00:47:11
interested to see what kind of docs they make for this, either first party or third party, because there are a few different things it can do while it's
00:47:17
charging. It can either show just the clock, it can show the battery percentage, it can show your next
00:47:22
upcoming alarm. Uh, it can show the weather. So, there's a few different You can basically use it as a clock that's
00:47:28
just on your bedside table. Yeah. what's it called on the iPhone where it's docked landscape and standby
00:47:34
mode. Standby mode. Standby mode is awesome. This is that for the watch. And like if it's, you know, my nightstand, which is
00:47:40
directly in front of my face if I'm laying in the bed, it doesn't need to be that big. A watch is perfect there. And it's a Pixel watch, so you probably have
00:47:46
to charge it every single night. Apparently, the battery is 40 hours for the big one. I thought that was very fun.
00:47:51
It's like a true day and a half now. It was like a little over a day before, and now 40 hours is like a real day and a half. What good is a day and a half? Uh,
00:48:00
what good is a half a day? It just means the the brief time. It's really just about fast charging. I
00:48:06
really I honestly I don't actually care how long the battery lasts if it charges really fast. So, if I have like a bit of
00:48:11
time, as long as it lasts more than a day and I can like shower and charge it, I can like have a meal and charge it or
00:48:18
every once in a while just pop it on the charger and it'll go right back to 100%. I'm happy. So, I think that's the more important
00:48:24
stat to me. Yeah. Yeah, it says it does 0 to 50 in 15 minutes, which is great. Yeah, that's really
00:48:30
fast. Yeah, that's quite fast. Yeah. Um, they now have the raise to talk GE to Gemini feature. So, unfortunately,
00:48:37
there are no Gemini Nano models on the watch. Uh, it does use the big models in the cloud, but it recognizes when you
00:48:44
bring it up, when you tilt it and bring it up to your face, and then it recognizes if you talk to it and ask it a prompt. It'll relay that to your phone
00:48:51
and it'll relay that to the cloud and it'll relay that back to your phone and it'll relay that back to your It is It's
00:48:57
faster than it sounds. Um, but it is kind of interesting and kind of like
00:49:02
works into Google's whole like Gemini is everywhere thing because now you can talk to Gemini directly on your phone or
00:49:08
directly on your watch or directly on your I don't know Pixelbook or something.
00:49:13
It's everywhere. I don't know how they're gonna identify which Gemini enabled device you're talking to when
00:49:18
you're in a home that has like 500 carable device. I I hate like saying the
00:49:25
word in my living room and just hearing my kitchen all the way in the background being like I can't answer that right now.
00:49:30
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be in the car too according to that that video. Oh yeah. Yeah. They have Gemini. Yeah. They now
00:49:36
have Gemini and Android and Android Auto or Google
00:49:41
Gemini for Google Cars or whatever. Google Play.
00:49:46
Google Drive. Google Drive. We're going to call it that from now. Should have been called that. Yeah. Um, also something we didn't
00:49:52
mention on the phones that is also on the watch, which is quite cool, is SOS
00:49:57
satellite communications. The phone now has satellite access, but not just for
00:50:02
the SOS stuff. So, throwback to the iPhone uh 14.
00:50:08
What phone was that? 14. I think it was iPhone 14 Pro. You can like hold it up and have a little UI on the screen. Yeah. which I've used in national parks
00:50:14
and actually does work quite well. Um, and Apple's whole like if you do not buy this phone, you're going to die
00:50:20
campaign. Now, Google has a phone that you will not die if you use, which is cool. Uh,
00:50:26
and there are certain there are certain services like T-Mobile today announced that they have a constellation of
00:50:33
Starlinks that's 650 Starlinks, which by the way, we talked about this in our in
00:50:39
our space race episode about how like all the satellites that are getting launched into space. Now, there is a dedicated T-Mobile constellation just
00:50:47
for this, which is Are we going to have new zodiac signs?
00:50:54
Yeah, the T-Mobile. T-Mobile T-Mobile. What's your sign? I'm T-Mobile. I'm
00:51:01
Google Fi. That's such a Google Fi thing to say. AT&T thing. Wow. That's
00:51:07
We're almost there. Oh, yes. Um, but now the watch can actually communicate with the satellite, too. And I would like to see that in
00:51:14
action because you have obviously you have to bring your sort of wrist up and target it at a satellite that's in low
00:51:20
Earth orbit. I was told that there's a UI for it. There is UI. I I'm sure it's very clever. I haven't actually seen it in
00:51:26
action, but yeah, I'll give that a shot. Uh, and then they also added their personal health coach in Fitbit, which
00:51:31
again is a parallel to the fitness coach they added in the Apple Watch that nobody wants. Yeah.
00:51:36
So, this is Stephen Curry though. No, I What did he say? He was from Steph where like Steph's
00:51:44
working with Google now and his idea was like, I've had coaches my whole life. I think everyone should have a coach. So, I decided to help you guys bring it to
00:51:50
everyone. Rick, how'd you get Steph? Jimmy, we're worth a trillion dollars. We want
00:51:55
too many famous people. Yeah. Well, before we go, Mariah, you're on a Pixel Watch one.
00:52:01
Oh. Are you going to upgrade? No. I've considered my options. I've seen
00:52:08
the updates and I think I'm good. Really? I think I'm good. But it's so much faster to charge.
00:52:15
It's true. It's true. and you know do the Google Assistant doesn't really work on my existing Pixel watch and I don't
00:52:22
know if it'll work on any of the other watches so I'm not it's Gemini though it's true
00:52:28
you are always talking about how much you want Gemini you know me so much you know me so well smaller bezels
00:52:34
you should try new chargers is a good consumer she doesn't buy new things just cuz
00:52:39
they're Do you want to try it Alice none of these things work none of these things work I talk to my friends all day
00:52:44
about this like Like my my friends use cursor, it doesn't work. AI overview doesn't work. I constantly get wrong
00:52:51
stuff from all the chat bots. I just none of them work. Why do they keep doing it?
00:52:56
Think of the shareholders. Oh god, the shareholders. Have you thought of the shareholders? You're right. They might have to sell the
00:53:02
Are they going to afford Jimmy Fallon next year? Yeah. Pixelbuds 2A. Yeah, I was going to say there's one more piece of hardware
00:53:08
and it's new PixelBuds 2A. They have&c now. They're very small. They are IP54
00:53:15
and they're $130 and they have Gemini in them so you can, you know, we were so close.
00:53:20
Your favorite thing. It's your favorite thing. You almost got away from it, Ellis. Uh, yeah. So, that's that's basically
00:53:26
all the new hardware and software that was announced scattered throughout this event. It was a real challenge finding
00:53:32
that stuff if you watch the event. Yeah, real challenge, but it's in there. If only they had it all on a table right
00:53:38
in front of them where they could have talked about all of it, but instead didn't. Yeah, they tried. No, they had they had a part where it was the QVC.
00:53:43
Yeah, they just barely talked about any of it. Sort of personally offended. They didn't think the Pixel Watch segment was worth
00:53:50
Jimmy Fallon's time, but they had him. He just wasn't there. But he was wearing a Pixel Watch for Oh,
00:53:55
yeah. They were twinning. Was the They were all wearing pixel watches. Yeah. Was the Pixel Watch section, the like workout section? Cuz I
00:54:01
have to give credit to the Google guy who had to do a bunch of like kettle bell swings while he was presenting.
00:54:07
Yeah, he did great. I tweeted, "If everyone's famous, is anyone famous?" cuz I didn't recognize
00:54:12
almost any of those people. I recognized like a couple. Some of them were like very famous and
00:54:17
then the second half were like um Wow. They're like finger snap famous, you
00:54:23
know, or like Oh, I see the on my reels. I see
00:54:28
the guy who scores all those three pointers in the guy that says things on the subway. Yeah, it's like Kevin Hart, but it's
00:54:34
like the YouTuber. They said YouTube Megastar and I looked around and nobody in the room knew who it was, but it was
00:54:40
a Spanish speaking YouTuber with 27 million subscribers. Wow.
00:54:45
So, shout out to her. Um, the Pelaton instructor like got a big standing ovation because I'm sure
00:54:51
people who use Pelaton were like, "Oh, that's the guy." But from the billboard, but I don't use Pelleton, so I Yeah. I
00:54:59
was like, "Who's the Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, that's that's what happened. It was a lot."
00:55:05
Yeah. Um, you can pre-order it now if you want and then if you don't, you don't have to. Yeah, you can watch our hands-on
00:55:10
impressions video that went live this week. Check that out. Full review coming on the good stuff, of course. So, get
00:55:17
subscribed if you want to watch that. Well, there's a couple other headlines of things that did happen. Should we get those after the break? Let's do that
00:55:22
after the break. Should we hit one more trivia extravaganza break? Yeah. Yeah, we'll do a trivia, but not the extravaganza break. Just trivia.
00:55:28
That's later this month, of course. Yes. Regular trivia.
00:55:35
That's great. I'm good. Squeak so loud. Well, um I'm glad we all made it to the
00:55:42
Pixel Watch event this year. And so you all know I'm an avid user of the Pixel Watch. I wear it almost every
00:55:49
day except for the days that it matters because I forgot today. Um and my question for you is how many times have
00:55:56
I mentioned the Pixel Watch and our company Slack? How many times? How many times? And this is prices right
00:56:04
rules closest without going over. So save your save your thoughts for later.
00:56:09
Did you have to use the term pixel watch? I keyword searched exactly pixel watch
00:56:15
with only me. Okay. So images of it wouldn't have come up but any text message with pixel watch
00:56:21
would have come up. Okay. This is something that only but if you use the new Slack AI, it'll
00:56:28
it'll automatically decipher all your questions. The new multimodal nonsense burger.
00:56:34
Jesus Christ. We'll think about the answer. We'll be right back. Goodbye.
00:56:41
[Music]
00:56:48
All right, welcome back. Uh, we're going to talk about something that's not specifically Google related, but maybe
00:56:53
tangentally Google related in a very interesting way. According to Rick Osterlo on the stream today,
00:56:58
if you got that, uh, Meta is reportedly going to launch their Hypernova AR
00:57:04
glasses this year for about $800, potentially next month, according to Mark German on Bloomberg. It was
00:57:11
originally reported that these would be over $1,000, but apparently Meta is willing to take a loss to try to soup up
00:57:17
demand. the difference between 800 and a thousand. I'm not really sure if people
00:57:22
are gonna be willing to buy that in the first place. Well, once there's a bunch more competitors in the market, it might look
00:57:28
impressive. I I for one, I'm very excited to test all these glasses, these interesting, potentially useful
00:57:34
glasses. Like Google Regost literally said in the event, u we are going to be launching our AR glasses with Google
00:57:40
soon. Yeah. So, we know they're working on those and they're coming soon. I got a demo a while ago. I thought they were amazing
00:57:46
and I'm I just want to use them in the real world. So, yeah, 800 bucks. That's the first
00:57:52
price tag we're thinking we might see. IRL. Yeah. So, sure. Yeah. Apparently,
00:57:58
Google Glass was like 1,600. How much was that? The Google Glass. It was 1,000 or was it
00:58:04
14? I think it was a,000 for the Explorer Edition, 1500. Oh, 1500. Yeah. What What year was that?
00:58:09
That was 2012. 800 seems kind of impressive by that standard. Yeah. According to Mark German, it says
00:58:15
there is a small screen for mini apps and alerts on the right lens and they'll be controlled by the Orion wrist
00:58:21
accessory that we tried last year. Okay, so this is not totally like the Orion glasses where we saw lots of
00:58:27
different things in like a very fully scoped. This is like a HUD.
00:58:33
It's almost like a accessory to your smartphone in a way like a smartwatch. One way that Google has helped to uh
00:58:40
understand like the different price tiers that this things could come in is single lens versus both lenses.
00:58:47
Obviously having a display in one lens costs much less. So it doesn't look 3D or track over your environment, but you
00:58:53
kind of can see things in a little HUD. That's the single lens experience. And then the dual lens experience
00:58:59
lets it be overth.
00:59:07
So this is like a lower priced version 800 bucks. And then that kind of feels like a more
00:59:14
expensive dual lens version might be in the 2,000 to $3,000 range. Right. Yeah. Wondering what time next
00:59:21
month it apparently launches too because we're getting next month September. It is.
00:59:27
Okay, it's uh it's been the big the big month. I wouldn't be surprised if Meta was like, "Yeah, we can fight the iPhone."
00:59:35
Well, yeah, good luck. You kind of just want to get your stuff on the shelf before the holiday season no matter what. Like the iPhone's going
00:59:40
to do it every year anyway, but also here we have the Google event and like there's going to be, you know, Samsung stuff coming out. It's just the time of
00:59:46
year to do stuff. Yeah. Yeah. True. Speaking of the time of year to do stuff, if you remember from an episode many, many moons ago,
00:59:52
Apple was sued by Maximo, a health tech company, for the lightbased blood oxygen
00:59:57
sensor in the Apple Watch. They had to remove it from the watches and they were not uh able to sell the Apple Watch for
01:00:02
a short period of time. So now they figured out a way around this. But now, and this is very funny, they the way
01:00:09
that they figured out how to get around the patent was they will collect the data using the sensor on the watch, but
01:00:16
they will not calculate the data on the watch. They will send the data to your phone. So, and it will be
01:00:22
calculated on your phone. I don't know if you can see that, but if you open the blood oxygen app now on the
01:00:28
phone, it just goes on the watch now, it just goes, oh, you can find the stuff on your phone. Yeah. So,
01:00:34
so now I guess the way they get around the patent of a device that reads your blood oxygen is it takes the data, sends
01:00:40
it to your phone, and your phone reads the blood oxygen. Yeah. Which is certainly a way around it and
01:00:45
something that I'm surprised that it took Apple this long to do. Um, yeah. Geniuses.
01:00:50
I mean, honestly, it probably took them that long because they probably really didn't want to do it. I thought that they were going to try to
01:00:55
figure out like a different way to vaguely calculate your blood oxygen. So, this is a better solution for them for
01:01:02
sure. Well, speaking of an Apple Watch, wow, we're like straight in right straight through these things. It's like,
01:01:08
real quick, did you see this um on someone posted this to our subreddit, but it was a post on the subreddit
01:01:15
industrial design. Someone made a post that says me my design to try and get me off my smartphone and essentially made a
01:01:22
fully metal case for his Apple Watch Ultra to be it's I guess it's a LTE
01:01:29
Apple Watch Ultra where he's just using this completely independent of a phone and created an entire it's super
01:01:35
brutalist like very industrial um and just like mil uh I forget what he said he's using
01:01:42
he's using a loom in uh Yes. He said he wanted to use titanium, but it would have been a lot
01:01:48
more expensive. Yes. Um he also did a stainless steel version which was too heavy. But it's essentially kind of like an iPod Nano. It's like a
01:01:56
very small phone size, maybe two and a half times the height of an Apple Watch Ultra and just about as thick. Milled
01:02:03
out a spot so you can um still use the crown and the buttons on the side
01:02:08
and it has a little like lanyard hole for it and stuff. It's pretty cool. This is not too dissimilar to recently
01:02:14
Allison Johnson on The Verge did a article about can I just use an LTE powered smartwatch instead of my phone
01:02:20
for an entire week instead of your phone. And she just used it on her wrist the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. And uh it was difficult but
01:02:27
it was doable. Probably rely on your voice a lot, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the the keyboard is
01:02:33
not terrible on the watch. I hate poke typing on it. Swipe typing is okay sometimes, but Okay.
01:02:40
Yeah. Ironically, this attachment that he put it in looks very very similar to this Bang & Olson speaker from the 80s.
01:02:46
Um just hyper brutalist like mil metal. Yeah. So, yeah,
01:02:51
he he did say I think he's going to make a hundred of them. Yeah. Um to start to for sale.
01:02:57
Yeah, I kind of want to try this. We'll link it in the show notes if anyone wants to see it. But I mean,
01:03:03
we're pretty bad at describing things. There's not a ton to describe here. It's a piece of metal
01:03:08
with an Apple Watch inside in it and a metal block trivia.
01:03:15
Data is their food. Data. We all loved that pixel event. Um, and
01:03:23
at one point, uh, Jimmy Fallon freaked out because Google vice president of
01:03:30
marketing, whose name I've conveniently forgotten and need to look up, Adrienne Loftton, thank you for highlighting that
01:03:36
for me, Mariah. Adrienne Loftton used the A wordun.
01:03:42
Uh, but after that, she described iPhone users as what?
01:03:50
Sheep. Yeah, sheep.
01:03:55
I think I remember.
01:04:04
So, uh, what's everyone doing this weekend? Going to the pool. I think Marquez is probably going to go
01:04:11
to sleep. I have a double practice. You have a double practice? Yeah. Oh my goodness,
01:04:17
man. This man does not rest. All right, let's flip these boards. Oh my god. We all put the same thing and
01:04:22
it is one two three I friends.
01:04:28
That would have been a great buzzer. Have any of you guys ever said that authentically?
01:04:33
No. No. Neither have you. I don't have any. Ever said it agentically
01:04:39
every day, thousands of times a day. All right, Mariah. So, the question to refresh your memory
01:04:45
was, how many times have I mentioned the phrase pixel watch in our company Slack?
01:04:50
Price is right. Closest without going over. A number popped into my head when you first said it and I'm ready.
01:05:00
Did you guys already write it down? So, you didn't need any time at all. Yeah. Well, now we got to sit through this.
01:05:05
Prices, right? Rules. Just kind of a guess, right? Yeah. Yeah. Unless you Unless you have Slack in your
01:05:11
brain, right? Based on pure vibes. Vibes. Pixel watch vibes.
01:05:17
I'm searching right now. I'm indexing. Hold on. All right, let's see it.
01:05:23
Oh, wow. Oh my goodness. We got a spread here. I can't read David's 13.
01:05:28
Yeah. Okay, that's Yeah. No. Well, okay. But closest going
01:05:34
27. Can't be more than that. What does Marquez have? Four. Four. Four.
01:05:40
What was it? I think Andrew is the closest. Um, without over either. Yeah.
01:05:46
What do you do you have a second guess? How how many times I've said it. There's no way you've said it that many
01:05:51
times. I've said it many times. And you post you post a lot of like when you did the stairs in Pittsburgh, you
01:05:57
posted the like how many crazy steps you took that day. That should count, but I don't think it's just the phrase pixel
01:06:03
watch in that. Wait, hold on. She has the Pixel Watch one. So this is three years of Pixel.
01:06:10
True. It's mostly when I pulled it up just ah pixel watch and then profanity after. Um, but the correct answer was actually
01:06:17
45. Um, a little. It's a lot. It's a lot. Smokes.
01:06:22
In honor of uh of this being the first episode, excuse me, the first trivia
01:06:28
question in this season of Waveform Trivia. Wait, is it really? Yeah. Wait, but super headto-head trivia
01:06:34
didn't count for anything. Wow. It's been said 174 total times in Slack. Are we tame pixel?
01:06:41
Get it from Google. Ryan, hit it. gift from Google.
01:06:47
[Laughter] Can we do a third trivia question or are we just are we going to deprive guys? Send it. Do it.
01:06:52
Send it. When I don't know what to do a trivia
01:06:57
question about, which was me until about 5 minutes before uh we started taping this episode. Oh, I do Old Faithful,
01:07:04
which is shellfish. And we also have Mariah on the podcast, which is begging
01:07:10
for a crawfish question. And Mhm. I'm kind of still on my New Orleans
01:07:15
food game. And so I wrote a question that incorporates all three of these
01:07:20
things. Incredible. Wow. What? Gumbo. New Orleans. Gumbo.
01:07:27
Is that an acceptable answer to this question? Jumbalayia. Jumboia is not gumbo.
01:07:33
But is gumbo? Gumbo may be an acceptable answer to this question.
01:07:39
Why' you tell us? Yeah, just read. What New Orleans staple food typically features both crayfish and rice?
01:07:45
That's right. Jumboia I mean a gumbo jumbolaya I will not accept. Uh but that usually
01:07:51
sometimes has Well, you didn't know the answer. No, I'm realizing I'm realizing how many
01:07:57
acceptable answers there were in here. Like gumbo probably works. I should have added that you have to start with a blonde rue, but actually that
01:08:04
disqualifies Jumbolaya, but lets Gumbbo still sneak by. All right, I'm no longer accepting gumbo
01:08:10
because that was th already thrown out there. Wait, so what was the question?
01:08:15
It was name a New Orleans food that features both crayfish and rice and I'm adding starts with a blond rue.
01:08:22
Blond r a blond. And I'm not And I'm not jumbo doesn't
01:08:27
count. A blondoo. All right, flip them. Wait. Red beans and rice with
01:08:35
no next. You get points for that. I don't have anything. Does that say kangaroo?
01:08:41
Yeah. Sweet. No. And Marquez has nothing. The correct answer was au. You said a blonde rue.
01:08:48
A2. Thank you for playing another episode of Ellis's New Orleans Kitchen. Thank you for watching the Waveform
01:08:53
podcast. It was produced by Ellis Roven and Mariah Zank. We are part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. And our intro outro music was produced by Vain
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