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All of the ads for the iPhone 16 were built for Apple intelligence and then the only Apple intelligence features
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they released for like Genoji and visual intelligence and yeah, not not the best use.
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Everyone's taking their shot at Apple right now. And yeah, and the Pixel comes out in exactly
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14 days is the announcement. Two weeks. Yeah, announcements. It's already out technically.
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Yeah, that's true. I mean, Google themselves is showing it. What is up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. And
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I'm David. And I'm Andrew. Sorry, I couldn't not. I know. It just caught me off guard.
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Um, in today's episode, Marquez is gone. We warned you before. We did warn you last week. He's going to be gone for two
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weeks. Please don't leave you. We still, you know, press that subscribe button to bring him back.
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That's true. If you Yeah, if you press subscribe, he comes back. Uh today's episode we got a lot of different stuff
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for you. We've got an a new openweight model from OpenAI. What a concept. Uh some exciting Fedverse news which you know I'm excited about. Is that an oxymoron? Um what exciting Fediverse news? Because
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it's already exciting. Exactly. Exactly. Uh yeah, some Fedverse news. Some Nintendo Switch but not Nintendo Switch 2 updates. Sad sad face. And we're also going to be
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ending it with showing off some cool little gadgets that we've gotten our hands on recently. That's that's quite
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fun. Uh but first but first Andrew's mega awesome best news of the week ever possible. Possibly the year gadget of the year some may say
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Windows or Microsoft is releasing Windows XP Crocs. You could have stopped at Windows.
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Why? That's how awesome it is. That's how awesome. Well XP specifically. Yeah, this is XP, baby.
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This is the good good, the nostalgia. Um, but so to celebrate Microsoft's 50th anniversary, they're about to release
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Windows XP Crocs. The reason we know they're about to release it is apparently they've already opened up pre-sale for Microsoft employees. Oh.
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Um, they will cost 80 bucks, but come with a pack of six gibbits. Do you want to know what the gibbits are? Can you explain this to people who don't know what Crocs are? And Jibbits.
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Listen, how much are Crocs normally? Let's start there. 50. Are they really that much? Yeah. God for more than regular shoes to make.
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They're like little I think I'm about right there. And how much is a jibbit? That I don't know. I only have one
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jibbit. I remember when this used to be a good country and we used to like meme on
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people that wore Crocs and we would laugh at people and be like, "Wow, those are so ugly." Oh, wait. Yeah. 30 to 50 bucks.
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Okay. For plain colors, then they can get a little more expensive. for like 60 bucks for some like patterns and stuff.
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So, this is like a special collaboration. This is a special edition kind of one. And what are what are jibbits?
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Jibbits are like the little charms that you put in the holes of the Crocs. Okay. Um I only have like a disc golf one
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right now. Hold on. Keep laughing. Wait till you hear the Microsoft Jibbits. Or should I explain the shoe pattern first? Well, you know the shoe pattern, right? Oh, there's a pattern on the shoe. Yeah,
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the pattern for the shoe is the bottom sole is green and the top of the shoe is a light blue with clouds. So, it represents the green hill with the cloudy sky from the Windows XP
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wallpaper. It's so good. You're kind of you're kind of changing me. It's so sick. Um, and the gibbits are a
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recycling bin, a mouse cursor, Clippy, I knew it. the old Internet Explorer icon, a folder icon, and the MSN butterfly logo. Oh my god,
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it's really cool. What if I just want the chippets? Then you're going to have to pay 80
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bucks and sell someone a pair of Crocs. I don't love using the Gen Z logo, but I think they cooked with this one.
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They They cooked. It also kind of looks like it comes with a drawstring bag that
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is also the wallpaper, the like hill wallpaper. I mean, if it comes with a bag, it's not a horrible deal. Although that bag costs
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5 cents to make, it's maybe less. Wait, so are these exclusively going to be for Microsoft employees or will they eventually open up for the The Verge article I read it off of seems like it is going to be available
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worldwide. Just Microsoft employees get first dibs at it. So if you're a Microsoft employee who
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doesn't want these and wants, please buy them for us. I would I would give you the money. I'm spending $80 on these if given the
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chance. I can 100%. If we took a team photo in this, it would be pretty cool. It would be pretty awesome. I think we can all agree
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with the ugly sweaters. Microsoft is a better merch company than pretty much anything else.
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Their merch is sick. Their ugly sweaters in particular are always fire. Yeah, we always talk about Apple store like
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exclusive shirts and merch and stuff, but I think Microsoft's got for a $4 trillion mega corp. They're
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really, you know, who game is online. Who mostly does B2B sales? I gotta say they got a couple fire shirts. Their merch designers are cooking. They are.
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All right. Well, hopefully we get our hands on these soon. Um, we can move on to the next story. There is a new
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YouTube feature that has not yet launched, but we have seen some examples of it and that is YouTube collabs.
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So, you might know that on Instagram or Tik Tok when you make a post, you can effectively make the post with another
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person. It's like a collab post. So, it will show up on both people's pages and it will show both people's little icons
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right next to each other. So, this is a post by this person and this person. YouTube is now apparently experimenting
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with bringing this feature to YouTube, which makes a lot of sense because there's a lot of history in YouTube of
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people doing collabs, but it's very much like, oh, we're putting on my channel and then maybe
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there's a a different type of video that's on your channel where we collab. Yeah. And they also tried to do it a little bit with like tagging, sorry,
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tagging in the title, which I don't think worked very well. It just made titles look really weird because you had
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to put the at sign in it and that always looked terrible. Um, but I think this is a better because it
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lives on both channels and is the easy connection between them when you see it without messing up the title,
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right? Yeah, I think this makes a lot of sense. It'll just show up on both channels. I don't yet know how the monetization structure is going to work
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for something like this. I did reach out to Renee Richie who is the YouTube liaison. Uh he says they are not officially
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announcing anything about the feature until the fall. Okay. So it's possible that they're just beta
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testing it. The only people that have access to it are like very very big YouTubers. Mr. Beast has done like two of them.
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Has he done two? Cuz I believe so. I think you're right cuz the one I'm looking at right now says Mr. Beast and three more. And then you click it and
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you see Mark Robber Stokes twins Ben as art. Um, the first one we saw, it said like the channel or when you clicked the video, the channel just looked like it said Mr. Beast and Mark Robber. Yeah.
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Which then just to me felt like Harper said this also. I take a glance at that. I'm like, is this a scam channel that's like trying
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to trick you into being Mr. Beast and Mark Robber? Yeah, that looked a little weird, but I think people get used to it and as long as
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they provide verification check marks in it. Well, they also have they also have instead of just the image of your
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channel being in the corner, it's the two images. So, I mean, you could I guess you could make like a fake version
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of that, but YouTube theoretically has, you know, if it's from a and then if it's from a big creator, they have the verification badges obviously. Um, yeah, I think this makes a ton of
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sense though. I think that people are going to want to see this content regardless of what channel it's on. And
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it also makes it easier to, you know, if if there's a very large creator that's collabing with a smaller creator. Now it's less like a lot of the times people used to do that because they would try
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to grow with that. They would be like, "Oh, if I can get Marquez on my channel and do a collab with him, then maybe I
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can kind of ride his maybe this will pop off." Yeah. If anyone Hey, Joe Rogan, I'm just
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kidding. Uh, if anyone massive wants to collab with atwaveform podcast, here's something that could be pretty cool. Interesting looking at it right now. The on Mr. Beast's channel, it says Mr.
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Beast and three more. That includes four total people. Mark Robber's channel just
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says Mark Robber and Mr. Beast. Oh, it's also a different title and thumbnail. And those are not different videos. And they're I believe they're the same video. It's very hard to tell because
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are they both 10 minutes and 53 seconds? Well, I wonder if No, they're different videos. I think it
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might be different videos. Videos. I think they're different videos. Oh, so it's not like then I'm wrong before I said lived on both channels.
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This is not like um Instagram where on Instagram when you collab with someone the same post is on both people's feeds.
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Well, it might be if those are different videos. I mean, if you go to Markver, it would be the same video. So like on
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Instagram, if I make a post that's like a picture of us in waveform and I collaborate with you, right? That same
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exact picture is just on both of our feeds now with both of us linked. This is their collaborating, but the videos
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are completely different where like if it was the Instagram way, the Mr. Beast video would be on Mark Robber's page is what I'm saying.
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I see. Yeah, I'm not seeing the Mr. Beast video on Mark Robber's page. Oh, so that I guess it is collaborative.
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That explains how the analytics will work then. Yeah, that explains that part. Then you're not doing the same video, so you don't have to worry about
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different uh monetization. It's just this feels like the new way of tagging someone in a title to make it more first party. Got it. Can I complain about something else that
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should be more first party from YouTube? Um, keep Yes. But let me finish this real quick.
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Okay, so if you go to like the Mark Robber video that he made called, "Can you safely drink your own pee?" Okay.
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Um, it says Mark Rover and Mr. Beast, but then there's a huge section right above it that shows Mark Robber and describes
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what he's doing and then shows Mr. Beast as an organizer, which would make sense why Mr. Beast is
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collabed with more people and I'm assuming this is going to grow. Yeah, but Mark Robers only collabed with Mr.
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Beast cuz it's is this pyramid scheming of YouTube videos? I think this is overall I think this is
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a very smart move by YouTube. Um, they've added a lot of features that have been popular on other platforms.
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Uh, we won't talk about stories, but uh, yeah, what were you going to say that you think that they should add?
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This is something that Adam and I have wanted to complain about for a long time. But why is still the best way on YouTube
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of putting chapters in content? Oh my god. By just putting a part in the description where you write the word
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chapter and then write the timestamps out in the description. Yes. First of all, it breaks for us
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constantly literally every week. Every week we hear you in the comments yelling at us. I swear it's at time of publish
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the chapters work. And I've taken to screenshotting it and posting it in Slack. Like as of 10:58, chapters are
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working. And then at like 2:00, I'll walk over to Adam and be like, I just saw five comments that said there's no chapters.
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And I'm like, what the hell? We do it. So yeah, please YouTube fix this. keep like commenting if they're
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broken because we are on it and trying to fix it. It's very annoying. It usually just winds up Adam deletes
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the colon after chapters and then puts it back in and saves it and it works again. But like how is there not a first
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party system of entering in chapters? There's first party systems for entering all the mid rolls at a literal exact
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time slots 50,000 times in a video if you want. What makes them money? Yeah, but why can't I just do video
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then? Descriptions are way cleaner. like when I want to actually add they kind of hide descriptions more than they used to too.
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They Yeah, they do. It's harder and it's Yeah, I don't care about I don't know. So frustrating. Thank you for reminding me about that cuz I said last week I wanted to rant about it and completely forgot. That's so annoying
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to all y'all that think we don't know what we're doing. We have don't know what we're doing.
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We don't. But we do do that, right? I will say. I will say. Yeah. So, I don't know. We'll see in the
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fall, I guess, when that officially rolls out. I think it's pretty smart for them to test it with like a bunch of big YouTubers because
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it kind of is doing a stress test on the system. It's pulling in like a ton of views from a ton of different areas and
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yeah seeing how people react. In terms of analytics, I would like to see if it source gets that's a
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collaboration is added as a source of traffic. So like when you come into a video, do a did Mark Robber get those
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views from clicking on Mark Robber's link in the Mr. Beast video. It also kind of sucks for everyone collabing.
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Assuming that it's gonna be a 50 page long thing of like this is Mr. Beast's whole team water, one of his big charity
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things where he's going to obviously invite a ton of people. So if that turns into 50, like
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number 49 is getting no extra views off of or like one of his like 100 YouTubers
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compete for this kind of thing and then he collabs every single one of them. Well, is that a collab at that point?
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Yeah, I guess you get to decide whether or not you want to make it a collab. It would be crazy if there was like a hundred people, though. And they might
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have a max, too. Mr. Beast is going to launch this and then figure out it hurts his analytics
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and then never use it again and be the only person with the ability to do it on and then YouTube will eventually make it
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not hurt your analytics just like they did with shorts. Yeah, it is a fickle it's a fickle
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beast. Um, okay. Really interested to see where this goes. Yeah, we got one more story before we're
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going to take our first break. Uh, OpenAI has released their first openw weight models since GPT2
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before you go on. Yes. Do a lot of explaining in here for those of for the the people out there who
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don't understand what this means. All right. So, a model like a a large language model is a lot of data that has been trained to create effectively like
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a neural network. So, when you give it an input, it gives you an output and that output is generated by a bunch of
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different neurons. neurons, quote unquote, kind of like firing at each other and deciding what the most
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probable output is going to be. Uh, it is probabilistic. It changes every time. It's kind of like they're trying to make a brain obviously. Now, usually when you use a model from if you
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use chat GBT or you use Gemini, these are all closed models. And that means that it's effectively a black box. you
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you number one don't know what data it was trained on to make that model and number two you can't see the model
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weights. A model weight is effectively uh the people that are building the model can
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put more influence into certain aspects of the model to try to like guide it towards certain behavior. Um and kind of
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a lot of the race in AI is to like perfect these model weights to get better outcomes. And so the reason that
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a lot of these models have become more closed is because these companies don't want to disclose to each other what
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they're like how they're changing their model weights. So OpenAI has released a new open weight
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model. It's not the same as open source because if it was open source you could see the training data and uh OpenAI
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would be sued 100 million times. That's definitely the reason that they're not making it open source,
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right? um because they're already being sued by everybody and now they would just give up all their proof readily available on the internet.
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But David, I can just watch YouTube for free. I can't I'm training my brain right now. Uh
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anyway, it is it is a pretty big deal because now you can run these models locally. Uh which is pretty crazy. If
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you remember correctly, we did a DeepSseek episode and DeepSseek is this Chinese open I think it's I think it is
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open sourced uh open- sourced model that you can run locally on your computer and it was very competitive with the top
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models at the time and it was free to download and all these things and it freaked everybody out and a lot of
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people in the AI community decided we probably actually need to release open models because if we don't everyone's
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just going to be using these free models from like different vendors like Chinese vendors, to them it is better to get people to
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like the entire reason that Meta has llama which is their their model and that is like that is an open model the entire reason that Mark Zuckerberg is like open-source open models is the way
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forward and we want to give to the community is not because he wants to give away things for free it's because he wants to be the
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foundation that everyone do like uses to do things on top of and then they can figure out how to monetize that later and they're literally the least trust worthy company on the planet pretty much right. Exactly. So now it seems that
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open AAI sort of wants to get in that game. There's also been a lot of discussion of like well if the US in
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general those the companies in the US don't start releasing open models everyone's going to start using like
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Chinese like open models instead. Open weight not open open weight. Yeah open weight models. Open weight models instead.
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Um but these models are uh available to use via the Apache 2.0 license, which means they can be modified pretty significantly for commercial purposes. Okay, which is cool because it means that
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people can start making products that run locally on these local models and sell them and change the weights,
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right? So, it's kind of like a foundation that you can then work from and like build your own products from.
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So, if I wanted to make like a new browser in alpha and charge $20 a month for, I could do it with that.
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You could do it. You could uh they're still a little bit heavy, right? So like they released two new models. One of
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them is a 20 billion parameter model that is similar to the OpenAI 03 mini model. Uh and you can actually run that on 16 GB of VRAM which most people well
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many people have on their computers which it can run on a laptop effectively. And then there's a much bigger 120
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billion parameter model that is closer to 04 mini that needs a dedicated separate Nvidia GPU.
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Yeah, that one you cannot run in a laptop. Correct. But even so, just owning like a
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4080 or something and being able to run 04 Mini, which is like a very substantial model locally on your
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computer, is pretty cool, right? Um, so yeah, it's it's a big deal. I'm wondering what we're going to see happen from this. I think Google is probably going to have to get pressured
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into opening their own like creating their own model. Um, Microsoft is now hosting these models too on a bunch of
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their Azour servers and stuff like that. So yeah, it's it's a big deal, especially because, you know, it's open
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AI and their whole thing from the beginning was that all of this was going to be out in the open and then uh they
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realized they could make money out of it. Yeah. Yeah. Which is why Sam Alman has was trying to make them not like not a open
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foundation anymore or whatever. They they were trying to monetize it more than they are. They backtracked on that, right? They had to effectively they're a company
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that can only make a certain amount of money and then they have to not because they're not nonprofit is
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Yeah. They're they're a they were originally founded as a nonprofit organization in 2015.
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Yeah. 10 years later. 10 years later. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows what they are. Yeah. It's a pretty big deal. I think
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we're going to start to see a lot of different applications that can run different things locally. Um, you know,
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there's all of these companies that are relying on OpenAI, making a uh API calls
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to OpenAI, spending a lot of money to do so. Right now, they're burning through a lot of venture capital.
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But imagine you could package something and release it as an APK or, you know, on a phone or as a program on your computer and you could just run it locally on your computer. Obviously,
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these are still very heavy. you know, there still, but they're realizing right now that scaling laws maybe aren't the
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answer necessarily where scaling laws are where you add more data and the model gets better.
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Uh they're realizing that there are definitely ways to make models more efficient without scaling them up higher, which is what Deepseek did
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uh when when that happens. So eventually I think that we are going to get to we are going to get models that are small
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enough that they can like run on your computer. You don't have to download like a giant program and it's not going
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to take up all of your RAM like Chrome does. Altech forever has always been right here's really really cool thing that
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takes so much power. How do we simultaneously make that better and continue to take that much power but also make versions that are smaller and more accessible. So yeah.
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So, it's it's an interesting space for OpenAI to be in because they still want people to pay them for the API calls
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obviously, but if everyone starts using the free version of something, nobody's going to pay them anyway. So, they have
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to get in the game in some way. Uh, but yeah, it would be cool if things could run locally on your device and not um
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burn all the water on the planet. That'd be cool. I mean, it's still still screwing some
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stuff up. Yeah, it's still using it's still using power, but at least it's using it locally on your device instead of in a data center. It is cool that just there's now like
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multiple options like if you want you could do the API call to open AI and build whatever you're going to build. But now if you need something a little
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more robust, just get one of these things. Yeah. And this new model can do reasoning, write code, and operate agents uh using the company's API. So
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people also have been speculating like Apple's probably looking at this and going like we can finally do something
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because it's commercially available. Yeah, it still again uses a ton of RAM. So maybe not yet, but maybe in a year or two when these models are much smaller, they could just use that for Apple
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intelligence. Yeah, Apple Intelligence. Wait, we have to just like really briefly mentioned the really funny pixel video. Like this
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is too good of a spot to like say, but like Google released this ad that was basically just like it's like what
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Marquez has always said, don't buy a product based on future promises. And then they take a shot. It's like, well,
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the phone you've been looking at's future promise is over a year old at this point. Maybe just buy the phone
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that doesn't do that. Yeah. All of the ads for the iPhone 16 were built for Apple intelligence. And
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then the only Apple intelligence features they released for like Genoji and visual intelligence and
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yeah, not not the best use. Everyone's taking their shot at Apple right now. And
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yeah, and the Pixel comes out in exactly 14 days is the announcement. Two weeks. Yeah, announcements. already out
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technically. Yeah, that's true. I mean, Google themselves is showing it constantly. They show it in this advertisement.
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So, yeah, very funny. Anyway, with that, I think we're going to hit it to trivia real quickly and then we'll take a
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break. So, trivia. Uh Marquez is out as everyone knows. Ellis is also out because he's sick. I'm still in the lead. Oh, yeah. We didn't mention that. Sorry, Ellis. Feel better. Yeah, Ellis is is sick home. But he had
00:22:31
a good idea. In these next two weeks that Marquez is gone, we are going to do a head-to-head
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trivia exhibition match. Just you, David, and you, Andrew, mono one. No, not necessarily. I don't think I've ever been winning going into a trivia extravaganza.
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I'm always winning going into extra and then I always lose. All right, so here we go.
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Okay. Oh. Oh. Oh, he made new music. This time I actually hear Ellis. He still did it. Yeah, I can hear his voice in that.
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Amazing work from from Ellis. Okay, so this is going to be how well you guys know each other. Oh, that is the the plot twist here. I don't like that. So, I'm scared.
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In the screen time app on both of your phones. Oh, boy. What is the most used app on
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the other person's phone by time? What is the top used app? Down 29% from last week.
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Oh my god. Nice. Wow. So yeah. So figure that out. Okay. And then we'll be back after the break. I somehow knew this. Oh, that's day. Sorry. Oh no. Oh no. Okay. All right.
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Nintendo Switch 2. I'm your host. Okay, so some news. Nintendo has raised the prices on the original Switch and the OLED Switch and the Switch Light,
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but not the Switch 2. But not the Switch 2. Okay, interesting. So, yeah, this is this is some interesting news. Uh, the now the OG
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Switch now costs $340, up from $300. Yeah, that's a pretty solid bump. This console is like 8 years old, by the way. Uh, the Switch Light is now $230 up from $200. And the OLED is now $400 from
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$350. The $400 OLED to the Switch 2's $450 price tag does not make the Switch 2 look that expensive anymore. No. Which is very interesting. Uh Nintendo said that they did this because of
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market conditions, which means tariffs. It happened a single day after the Trump
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administration announced a 20% tariff on Vietnam, which is where Nintendo does most of its manufacturing. So obviously
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there's a reason why they would have done this. Now, interestingly, the Switch 2 is also very largely
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manufactured in Vietnam. However, I think that Nintendo is trying to avoid getting people very angry about them
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rising the cost of Switch 2. Number one. Number two, it has already sold 6 million units.
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Switch 2 is a very, very, very quickly growing console. They are selling a lot of these things. And I think that they
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are a little bit worried that if they jack up the price now, especially because it's on a percentage basis, uh,
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they're going to lose a lot of potential customers. So, I'm interested. I've already seen like
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I've already been to a Target and seen Switch Twos just sitting there. They're definitely in stock. Yeah,
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like pretty easy. I'm assuming they're pretty easy to get. I don't remember that happening with the Switch for months and months. I mean, it
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took me days to find one when I bought my original Switch. Um, this Adam and I were talking about this
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like last week on trying to figure out why it makes sense and my guess and this is from someone who doesn't know anything about retail or that is like are they going to bump this up which
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just means the cost of a retail store purchasing these to keep them on shelves will go up still like not exactly the
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same. Obviously, the retail store is making some sort of a margin there, but and is this kind of attempting to cover
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the tariffs of Switch 2 by release releasing stock that's out there already that's like this goes up, it'll
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probably be paid by stores to sit on a shelf and maybe not even really get bought and is there some sort of like
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recoup here from what they're about to lose for the 20%. Well, yeah, Andrew Webster at the Verge did some analysis on this. uh in his
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opinion effectively was that it is much less risky to raise the price of hardware that is not sold as much. And
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the reason is because I mean yes yeah people that buy like less of the stuff yes it won't it won't make as much
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money but it's not going to scare people as much as it as it does to to raise the price of something that is very popular.
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Well and this sucks the most for the people who might be interested in that. I if if the Switch 2 is out and you
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really want the Switch OLED, yeah, you're probably not you're upset it costs more, but you're probably still
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going to buy it because there is a very specific reason you want that piece of hardware. Yeah. And you're going to spend the money for
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doing it. Yeah. It's it's obviously less risky because it's the thing that's I feel like this also helps because
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people are going to be no longer looking at the Switch 2 as wow that's so expensive compared to the other Switch.
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Like I could just get a Switch OLED for $100 cheaper. Like now the difference is only 50 bucks. It's like I might as well
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get the Switch 2 if I'm already spending $400. I'm trying to think of like in this
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scenario, how many people go into that like ladder? Cuz like if you're at a Walmart, are there still old switches on in stock there and then you see it
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next to each other? Are you looking at the Switch 2 because of a specific game which isn't even available on the old
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switches? So, you don't even have to make that jump. You already have to pay the 450 because you want to play Donkey
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Kong or Mario Kart World. Also, they could just be waiting for the tariffs to change again. They're like, "We already have all of our stock for the Switch 2 in the States hopefully, so
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we don't have to import a crazy amount." I think that's probably why they flooded the market. You know, like the original
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Switch, it was hard to find them for a very long time. with the Switch 2, it's kind of been like every single week
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there's a restock and like you said now you're at the point you can just walk into a lot of stores and buy them.
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We still saw like huge shipments of phones coming in to beat tariffs. So I think on top of not doing a Switch One
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and beating tariffs, there's probably so many Switch twos already in stock. Are they just raising these because they
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I'd love to see how many OLEDs and lights they're still selling. I got This is what I was just about to
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say. I'm on eBay right now looking at sold listings of Nintendo Switch One. You can buy them between $80 and like
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$120 used a Switch OLED used with everything is $160. Like you should not be paying full retail price for any of these things anymore.
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So I'm really wondering how much of this cost Nintendo is actually recouping. In a way it is just making the Switch 2
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seem like a better deal. That's what I think it is. So, at the same time, it's like, yes, they're doing it because of tariffs, but
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also they're probably going to sell more Switch TWs if everything else is more expensive, you know,
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cuz now it's just going to force people up the ladder to just I might as well get a Switch 2. Or even if they don't,
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then they're minimizing their loss because they just raise the prices on all the cheaper models, right? Yeah. Which, you know, in 2025,
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you look at inflation, it's like things can't really be that cheap anymore. Obviously, their their parts are so old
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that they probably are making a huge profit if they're selling any of them. But yeah, it is it is very surprising.
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$80 for a used Switch is kind of good, though. Yeah, I mean, that's not bad. I mean, yeah, it's great.
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But I mean, you know, if you have an original Nintendo Switch, um it's it's been a long time. There is one very specific one though that I do think goes for a lot because it's the easiest to mod or something
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about it. there's like this very specific uh if you didn't update it, it was if you didn't update it to a
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certain patch. Yeah, it was easy to mod. Uh also, they have raised the price of the Switch One JoyCons by $10, which is something that people might buy new obviously because of stick drift, which
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is uh effectively where it does not monitor the direction of your stick correctly after a certain amount of
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time. A funny story Adam and I experienced the other day. We're playing uh rumble mode,
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right? And Mario Kart World. Knockout. Knockout. Sorry. I think we've said this already. That
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mode is so much fun. Knockout Tour. Knockout Tour. Yeah. Is like it's I don't want to say it's worth buying World for that, but if you love Mario Kart, I think Knockout is super fun. It's the one to play with a bunch of
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friends. Knockout Tour is basically like you you go through six stages in a row without stopping.
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Without stopping and checkpoints and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's almost like Fortnite where checkpoints people
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get eliminated and you have to be and it goes from like 26 or 25 down to like four and then you win.
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Um yeah or lose. But Adam, Alex and I are playing on the screen over here. And um
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Alex is just like, "Oh my god, I got stick drift already." And he's like freaking out the whole brand new Joycon.
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But he had tilt controls. He had tilt controls on it. Didn't realize the best is he was so into it. I was like, "Oh, no. I mine's messed up,
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too. I think I have tilt controls on. You probably just have it on." He's like, "No, no, no." And he's like focusing and just playing. And then the
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next time he switches control, he's like, "What the?" I was like, "Dude, you definitely just have tilt controls on." And yeah.
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Yeah. I haven't figured out how to turn tilt controls off. If you press start and I It used to be
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like the left button, but now I think it's Y. There. There'll be settings and you can turn
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uh It's like auto steering, tilt control, and auto acceleration. Baby mode. I was just about to say that
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too. Yeah, it's the bumpers on bowling. Okay. And they also raised the price of the Alarmo alarm clock by
00:33:20
No, see that's what they should raise the price on though. Like that's people are still buying that. Oh,
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wait. I kind of want one. Sorry. Switch one JoyCons went up like $10, which people do need to replace because
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you have a Switch One, everyone's JoyCons eventually get stick drift. I bet they're Yeah, I bet they're making more money off.
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They're probably making a lot on the Joy. the JoyCons were already so expensive and you need to buy those new
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effectively. So yeah, even if you didn't go and get the Switch 2, you're like, "Ah, my Switch is fine. I'm still just going to play these games
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randomly." Like, you will need JoyCons eventually new JoyCons. So yeah, again, uh $450 is not seeming like that big of
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a deal now that the OLED is uh $400. You know, $50 more for the brand new one is
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Yeah, the OLED screen still looks a little bit better in my opinion, but a lot better. A lot better. Yeah. I would just love to see the
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numbers of how many switches, switch OLEDs, and switch lights are still sold in the US on like
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a quarterly basis. That data will probably come out. I mean, there probably is some data right now.
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I'm sure there's a lot of Switch lights being sold. One, because it's the cheapest. Two, because it's the smallest, and they have a bunch of
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colors. Like, if it's like a Christmas gift, little kids, this is this is just attacking all the
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parents and grandparents who don't know anything about consoles. when they're asking for the new Switch. They just buy
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the thing, the old version accidentally%. I mean, a lot of people probably don't buy anything used. You know, there's
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probably a lot of people who just walk into the store and buy the thing and that's how they purchase everything. So, that's what they're counting on.
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Yep. All right, moving on. Uh, we got Fedverse Corner to talk about. Let's go. I need I need Ellis to make custom Fedverse Corner music. Uh, Ghost has
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released Ghost 6.0. If you do not know what Ghost is, Ghost is a newsletter publishing platform and sort of also a
00:35:11
website builder. You can kind of think it as a combination between Substack and uh Squarespace,
00:35:17
which is pretty cool. It's It feels weird saying Squarespace on a piece of content because I've literally never
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done a Squarespace ad, but like the entire entirety of YouTube is like powered is like run by
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Squarespace ads. Anyway, I'm not I'm not doing an ad for Squarespace. No, you're not. But I am doing an ad for Ghost, but they
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didn't pay me. Um anyway, so if you watched our Fedverse explained episode that we did last year, it was called Blue Sky versus Threads. Yeah, it was last year or two years ago,
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one of actually it might have been two years ago. That makes more sense. It could have been two years ago. Uh we broke down the protocols of the
00:35:52
open social web in that and we also interviewed Ghost CEO John Nolan because John O Nolan, sorry. uh because he was very adamant about eventually
00:36:05
integrating ghost into the fediverse. And the way that this would work effectively is that your website itself,
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so I have davidl.com, right? DavidL.com now is an entity in the fediverse. So on
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threads or on blue sky or on mastadon you can follow davidml.com and then whenever I make a blog post on davidml.com because ghost is a newsletter publishing platform you can
00:36:31
just see the blog post there. You can like it, you can interact with it, you can comment on it. Those comments will
00:36:37
show up uh on my website. So it's just kind of a way to own and distribute all of your content across the social web which is very cool. Um I am trying to
00:36:48
figure out how they integrated it with blue sky because blue sky is on the AT protocol which is different.
00:36:54
Didn't they use the bougie fed thing? I don't think they did. Uh anyway, the update also includes a native analytics suite. I think the reason that they're doing this is because there has been a
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really big resurgence in Substack over the last year or so, which has been very interesting to see. Um because back in
00:37:12
2020, Substack blew up because a bunch of journalists started leaving different uh publications and starting their own
00:37:18
newsletters and making a lot of money. Substack was offering people effectively like entire salaries to write on there
00:37:24
exclusively. But yeah, I think there's been this big resurgence of a bunch of regular people have been writing on
00:37:31
Substack recently. And I think that that is a reaction to just the quickness and randomness and algorithm focus of social
00:37:39
media. A lot of people want to do more long- form thoughts instead of just dumb takes that are incentivized by the
00:37:45
algorithm to be um controversial. Blogs are back, baby. Blogs are back, baby. It's funny cuz everyone you're describing here as like old reporter who made a Substack to do non-click bay
00:37:57
headlines. It makes me think of one of my friends who's the first Substack mentioned in this article talking about
00:38:03
Ghost. Really? Tangle News. Oh, that's your friend. That's cool. Oh, Marquez and I played uh Ultimate with
00:38:10
him. Wow, that's super cool. Um, yeah. Also, Ryan Barrett, the guy who does Bridged Bridged is part of a new social, which is the group that's like doing this whole thing. So, I think back to my point, I
00:38:21
think they are using some sort of bridged. That would be my guess. I I emailed John O Nolan this morning. Um,
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but he does not live on this coast. I don't think he's on the anyway. I'm not going to I'm not going to say where he lives, but uh I
00:38:34
Why don't you want to dox him on? As far as I understand, he lives in a different time zone. So, I'm not surprised that he hasn't gotten back to
00:38:41
me yet as of time of publishing. Uh I would like to find out how they're doing that on Blue Sky. But either way, it's
00:38:47
very cool. It's a very uh also Ghost is open source, so you can host it yourself. If Ghost, the company, the
00:38:54
business, goes out of business, you can still run your website. You can still host it. It's not like all these other
00:39:00
platforms where they get to make all the decisions and if they decide that they want to charge you a million dollars, you're just out of luck. You can do
00:39:06
everything yourself, which is pretty freaking awesome. So, uh, Adam, you updated Cool Supply, your your
00:39:12
newsletter to be on Go 6.0, right? And it was really easy. Like, I logged in and then a little banner popped up
00:39:17
and was like, "Hey, Go 6.0 is ready. Do you want to update?" And I was like, "Oh, sure. Yeah." So, I hit update and
00:39:23
it was like, "Go grab a coffee. This may take a couple minutes." And it literally took like 30 seconds and everything was
00:39:28
update. But I don't have a lot on there, but still it like completely updated. Super super chill. Very fun little Fedverse corner update
00:39:34
because this is what John has been waiting for for a very long time. Yeah. All right. It is cool. It's like having your own
00:39:39
little comment section. Yeah. No, it's amazing on everything. And I think newsletter should should come back. I've just been like I've been
00:39:45
nervous to do, you know, like a weekly newsletter because I don't want to be so reactive to everything all the time
00:39:51
because I think people need to digest information more and not have a hot take about literally everything.
00:39:57
This podcast would crumble if we weren't allowed to do that. Yeah, we actually usually have a couple days. Yeah, we have a couple days to think
00:40:04
about it and think if uh it's a horrible think about what we've done, think about our horrible opinions.
00:40:09
All right, last story before we take it to break again. Um, take it to the bridge. Take it to the bridge. Take it to the
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the the bridged account. Bridged Fed. We tried. Instagram now says that you need a
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thousand followers to go live. So, if you know what going live is on Instagram, um, it's a live stream.
00:40:28
This makes no sense to me. I don't get this. I don't understand. Like, if I really wanted to go live on
00:40:34
Instagram and do something nefarious, right? What's to stop me from just botting a thousand followers to whatever
00:40:41
account I wanted to go live from? And yeah, I mean, yes. And also, if like, yeah, just bot it, but if
00:40:49
you're a scam account that doesn't have a thousand followers, you're not scamming anyone cuz no one's watching the the live stream. There's no, as far
00:40:56
as I know, there's no live discoverability in Instagram. It's only page reels, like post and
00:41:02
reels discoverability. You only ever see live if you're following the person. Mh. So
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yeah, this actually just kind of seems really crappy to people with not a lot of followers that might still go live to
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like I don't there's By the way, a thousand followers is a lot of followers. A lot of followers. Like that's a lot of people. And it I
00:41:20
know that like you know huge accounts that have millions of followers are like that's not a lot. But regular people do not have a thousand followers. Most
00:41:27
people do not. And it's kind of lame that, you know, I I have some friends in like the film photography community that
00:41:32
occasionally just want to like go live and talk about some photos that they took just just to their friends, right?
00:41:38
And this this makes it feel like Instagram is moving further and further away from being a platform where you
00:41:44
share things with your friends and more and more like, oh, we're only going to give features to people who have a large
00:41:50
audience that can make us a lot of money. Well, if Instagram heard that, they'd say, "Thank you very much. That's exactly what we're going for." But do
00:41:56
you know what this like nerfs that's really funny people who bought like Meta Ray-B bands
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or Oakley Ray-B bands because or sorry Meta Oakley because one of the cool things they said about that is like you
00:42:09
can stream on Instagram live from your glasses which I think is actually a really cool feature but now you need a
00:42:15
thousand followers to do it. So they just nerfed their own product with this. That's potentially thousands of people.
00:42:22
I did not think of that cuz I've thought a couple times about grabbing one of the pairs and like playing around of disc golf live. I'm
00:42:28
lucky enough that I work for a thing that has me over a thousand followers, but like
00:42:33
yeah, I know plenty of people that I would be like, "Oh, my buddy's playing around live on his Meta Ray-B bands right now. I'd love
00:42:39
to watch that." And now they might not be able to. That is so lame. I don't know. Some people were speculating as to why they
00:42:45
might have made this change. Some people thought maybe they want to send uh save on server costs like if there's like
00:42:51
less people doing live they they don't have to host it anymore. The first thing that I thought of was this is them kind of trying to cover
00:42:57
their bases for like random like terrorist attacks. Exactly. Like if you cuz every time a bad thing happens on Instagram live it is live streamed and it's everywhere immediately. So like
00:43:09
this kind of stops that to a certain extent. You need to be a real person, quote unquote,
00:43:15
like actively engaging in the community of Instagram, get a thousand followers and then go live. Yeah. So, you have like more to lose if
00:43:21
you do something. Yeah. Which I get, but it also completely screws over everyone trying to build their audience and get bigger.
00:43:28
My argument with that and which goes to what David said is not everyone's on Instagram to build an audience.
00:43:33
Yeah. I just have some people just have friends. Like I think all the time how kind of bummed I am that I
00:43:40
didn't like separate my Instagram and have two of them. One that's more of the like MKBHD verse focused and one that's
00:43:47
more of just my friends. I originally split it off into Mac and then had to remake my own second one
00:43:53
that then but like yeah a lot of people just want Instagram to keep up with their friends. The only
00:43:58
reason Facebook's still alive there's like two Facebook groups and a few family members on there is the reason I
00:44:04
have it and marketplace but Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny. There's going to be so many people with Ray-B bands that
00:44:09
are probably live stream like random things to their friends that are going to be like, I just lost a feature.
00:44:14
I could see a class action lawsuit around that to be honest. If it's if it's a major feature that they
00:44:19
advertise, they did remember the thing they brought in Charleslair to go on like a go-kart
00:44:26
drive with the Meta Ray-B bands to and then like he was reading the chat on his phone. Well, I feel like he obviously has a thousand followers.
00:44:33
The feature is still there though. It's not like they're taking it away. So, you bought these glasses for that feature.
00:44:38
You have to have a thousand points. Yeah. Like they added a barrier, but like I don't know if you can like take a
00:44:43
class action. You could sue. I would argue that's a barrier for a lot of people that is one that won't ever be
00:44:49
broken because their profiles are private and they don't want a thousand followers. Yeah. Actually, I know a lot of people
00:44:54
with private. Yeah. So, dumb dumb change. That was so much dumber than I expected it to be. like once we talk about it, we realize it's really stupid.
00:45:05
Anyway, that's going to be it for this segment. So, we will take it to another trivia question. Um, but next talking about really cool
00:45:12
things we like. Super head tohead trivia. Super head-to-head trivia. Thank you, Alice. All right, the next question of how well do you guys know each other?
00:45:23
What are the apps in the other person's phone doc? Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh. All right, that's interesting. Got to be tricky. It is.
00:45:34
All right. Well, we'll get that to that at the end of the show, but in the next segment, we are going to do a little show and tell with some stuff that we've
00:45:41
been uh using recently, interested in recently. I have too. It's going to be fun. Nice things we want to show and tell
00:45:46
about. Yeah. Show and I'm going to tell. Share with the class. I'm going to tell everybody.
00:45:52
I'm going to tell on you. Do it. Don't tell me. Be right back. That's a Marquez in China. Oh, I can tell. Marquez.
00:45:58
[Music] All right, welcome back to another episode of the Wave Form Podcast. We're your hosts. Yeah, that's that's going to get old pretty quick.
00:46:16
Okay, we're on the third segment of this episode now. And uh this is our little You're starting these so meta. I'm try I'm I'm sorry. This is our This is our little showand tell segment that
00:46:27
we're doing this week. So, we just figured we wanted Yep. We very rarely get to talk about
00:46:34
products that we're like individually using because this is mostly a news show. Um, and I kind of wanted to talk
00:46:41
about a new tripod that I've been using a lot recently. What tripod? You this morning were like, I really want to talk about this. Can we do show
00:46:46
and tell? And I was like, wait, I actually do have something that I just got that I want to talk about. That's awesome. That's very cool.
00:46:52
So, let's do it. Let's start tripod. Okay. So, if you are a photographer or in the photography community, you've
00:46:58
probably heard of Peak Design. Uh, they are very high quality, quite expensive brand
00:47:04
that creates um what they would call Peak Design. Oh my god. Their words, not mine. Realize that it's like I think it's like a double entr like peak like mountain, but also that's always took the best.
00:47:15
I don't know. Anyway, uh I have had their original travel tripod for a really, really, really long time. Basically, since it came out, I believe it was like 2018, 2017, 2018,
00:47:27
something like that. Uh I have the carbon fiber one, which is too expensive. Uh it is $600. It's
00:47:33
really expensive, but it's basically the best super lightweight tripod that I've
00:47:39
used. Um, I keep it I do a lot of hiking, so I like keep it in my backpack and it's very easy to just slap my cameras on and and it just like tucks into pretty much
00:47:50
like your water bottle holder on the side pretty easy cuz who needs water on hikes when you can have a $600 tripod
00:47:55
instead. But like it's one of those things that can simultaneously be too expensive and
00:48:00
also just like really really high quality. The best thing ever if that's the scenario you have it in. Yeah. And they do have an aluminum
00:48:06
version of this which is not that much heavier and it's much cheaper. So, you know, that's still also a good option.
00:48:12
Anyway, this has been around for a very long time. It does have some quirks and features and uh that is why they
00:48:18
eventually made this new one called the it's the Peak Design Pro line of tripods. Uh so, this is the small one. For some reason, Peak Design made three of the new of the new Pro tripods.
00:48:32
Do you know what the differences are between them? Yeah. So they it's mostly that they hold different amounts of weight and also uh
00:48:38
can get taller and shorter and stuff like that. This is the small one. So this will be
00:48:43
compared to the original tripod right here if you want to do that. I don't know if people This is like significantly bigger than I
00:48:49
thought it was going to be. Yeah, it is quite a bit bigger. So, for me, um, the one problem that I've always
00:48:56
had with the original, well, not one problem, maybe the biggest problem I have I've had with the original travel
00:49:02
tripod is that I shoot 4x5 film pretty often. 4x5 film is like one of those large view cameras that you would see in like the 1940s. And when I would use
00:49:13
this, uh, it would have some shake because those cameras are very big. They're not really, these tripods are
00:49:18
not really made for like big payloads. So, I think part of the reason that Peak Design got into this uh market segment
00:49:26
was that they wanted to probably tackle people that are using like way heavier duty, harder core cameras. Uh, and then
00:49:33
there are just some engineering things with the original tripod that they made better. So, for example, it has this
00:49:39
quick lock mechanism that allows you to just like displace the uh they have this a little mount that is kind of like
00:49:46
standard to them. Um, and it looks like this. The tripod mount that goes on the camera. Like the original one's square.
00:49:52
It's very small, but I I liked what it was. My My biggest complaint about it was the little area that they hold the Allen wrench for it. Yes, the Allen wrench fell.
00:50:03
Always. I have lost. Yours is missing. I noticed that missing. And you do need an Allen wrench in order to put this on your camera. So,
00:50:11
what I've ended up doing, I'm not going to show my keys on camera because people always yell at me about that, but I've
00:50:17
put an Allen wrench on my keychain. So, I constantly have an Allen wrench with me. Anyway, some of the problems that
00:50:23
the original tripod had is that if you raise the head here, and I'm sorry if this is really boring to non-came people, but if you raise the head here and you want to um like put it at an
00:50:35
angle, you can only Wait, what was it? So, it's on a It's a ball head. Yeah, it's a ball. Wait, and there's like these three different
00:50:46
dividers essentially that fall down into the tripod when it's tucked all the way in. And sometimes that makes turning it
00:50:53
sideways difficult because it kind of gets in the way. Yeah, it can kind of get in the way. Assuming that's what you're talking
00:50:58
about. So, this new one uh is more of a standard ball head where it can just pivot and twist in like many different
00:51:05
directions. So, that's very handy. You can just go 360 instead of having to, you know, jam
00:51:10
in there. That's very useful. Uh the big thing about the the 4x5 cameras though is that
00:51:16
this because the 4x5 is so big and it's not super heavy, but it does have a lot of surface area. It would shake a lot
00:51:23
and when it was windy on like a mountain and that was very frustrating because there's no optical image stabilization
00:51:29
on 4x5 film obviously. So any even the most like micro shake would would mess up the image. Um these are much more
00:51:36
stable. Even the small one is like super stable. They also re-engineered the center column uh to add a bunch of
00:51:44
different features. They changed the clips a little bit. Overall, it's kind of just like a much more sturdy system.
00:51:51
Also, when you're clipping in the camera, it now has the spring-loaded mechanism. This I was just messing with this. Yeah, the spring-loaded mechanism for the the
00:52:02
tripod mount on a camera attaching feels super nice. It feels really good. So yeah, effectively you you like unlock it by
00:52:10
pulling this and it it pulls up this little tab that when you put the uh plate in, it snaps it closed. Talking to your mic a little bit. I'm sorry. He's getting locks it in. Yeah. I'm
00:52:22
sorry. I love tripods and it like locks it in and then they have an extra lock right here. So I
00:52:28
don't know. Everything about these tripods is definitely about like stability and being able to shoot things
00:52:34
without any shake and stuff like that. They made the clips a little bit easier to use because un uncipping and clipping
00:52:40
a tripod always takes forever. Um, yeah. So, I've been really enjoying this. I don't love how big it is. Like, you cannot really beat this original tripod
00:52:51
size. Uh, because this can fit in like basically any water bottle pocket of any backpack that I have, whereas the the new Pro ones definitely are bulkier.
00:53:01
even the small one. For some reason, they made it in a small, medium, and large form. The large makes a lot of
00:53:07
sense because it's for like giant payload. Like, they're trying to get into the cinema kind of landscape. They
00:53:13
they sell an a fluid head adapter that makes it so you can use it as a fluid head tripod,
00:53:18
but I don't really understand why they made the medium one because the small and the medium are almost exactly the same size and they go up in size in
00:53:26
prices uh prices of $100. So they call it pro light pro and pro tall. So I'm not really I don't really know. But overall like this has made my photography a lot um more reliable I
00:53:41
guess specifically with my 4x5 camera. I can see like I understand it being larger and the main problem you
00:53:48
have with it is shake and stability. So like making it larger is probably the only way to really fix that. And if you're I would argue if you're carrying
00:53:55
something like your 4x5 camera, you probably aren't trying to be in like this level of light payload where like
00:54:02
this could be I took this tripod with me and just like a Sony A7R, right? With other hiking stuff. So like to me it was just part of the pack and then like not too bad. Um
00:54:14
but seeing this I think it's really cool. They obviously I mean Peak's quality is always absolutely at the top
00:54:21
of its game. This looks like they solved a bunch of the issues, but seeing it and seeing its
00:54:27
side just makes me still like the original one because I'd rather just throw it. It's so small. It's so like
00:54:34
when you are somebody, and I see this now all the time watching like disc golf YouTube of people like lugging tripods
00:54:40
around all over a disc golf course. Like you want a really small one, but the problem is all the really small ones are
00:54:46
really flimsy. This is they nailed their target demographic with this one. despite its price. Um I think getting into the bigger game the when you talk about the larger one
00:54:58
and huge payloads and cinema stuff is like we have really good cinema tripods already it feel that feels like a
00:55:04
crowded space. I'm sure Peak Design can get into it. Um but I think it's probably for people that
00:55:09
like everything that they own is in the Peak Design ecosystem. Like they have built out quite in like an ecosystem
00:55:15
that uses all of their things and they interlock with each other and they've got all these features. Um, but yeah, I
00:55:20
think for like most people, the original one, even the aluminum one is like more than great. This is really going to be
00:55:26
if you have specific use cases like me with the 4x5. So, this the the travel tripod feels like
00:55:33
I'm packing it with other things. The pro tripods feel like my pack is all cameras. That's all that's all that's in my That's been me for a while now. Well, yeah, but that's because you sacrifice the rest of survival things
00:55:46
for your cameras. That's true. I'm having lower back problems. So, yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
00:55:51
For my book, it's been great. No, these I mean, this is sick. Yeah. And it can get a little bit
00:55:57
tighter down, too, because of that redesigned center column. Yeah. The center column seems way larger, which is the best part about it.
00:56:03
Also, when the original one was all the way down like this, it couldn't tilt at all. So, the only way to bring it up, you had to loosen it, bring it up to here, tighten it, and then it could, and
00:56:15
then it could rotate. But that means it can't go quite as low. Whereas this one can it can tilt even when it even when
00:56:22
it's all the way down. It's on its lowest stage. Yeah. Which is pretty cool. Do you know what I appreciate? Even though this is the pro version, it still
00:56:28
has the little hidden cell phone holder. So this has always been a really cool feature. In the bottom there's a hook.
00:56:35
Generally on tripods that hook is for stability. So you put like a backpack on the hook and that basically just adds a
00:56:42
bunch of weight to the tripod so that it shakes less. And I still do that. The hook on the bigger one is obviously
00:56:48
bigger, but inside of that column, they have a secret little cell phone holder that you can put on the tripod. So, if you want to do like astro mode on your Pixel or something, you can now use the
00:56:59
tripod with your Pixel instead of having to buy a brand new tripod just for phones. That's cool. So, I think that that's really cool. Um,
00:57:06
also, obviously, we talked about the you need an Allen key, which is very kind of frustrating because you can lose it
00:57:12
pretty easily and they have a clip on the on the tripod. itself to store the Allen key. In the new ones, the bags now
00:57:19
have a slot for the Allen key. So, I think that they want you to keep it in the bag more. The previous bag had
00:57:26
like two microns of extra room. It's like putting a sleeping bag back in like a sleeping bag or like a bag.
00:57:33
It's so hard to get it in and out. Um, so the new one has a slot in there and they gave it a little more slack. So, I
00:57:40
don't I just wanted uh to bring that up because I've been doing a lot of mountain climbing recently and I've been
00:57:45
using this a lot. So, yeah. Nice. Interesting. They're still on Kickstarter right now, though. So, what's the final price? Did you say it?
00:57:51
Yeah, they're really expensive. They're like really expensive. Uh so, the Pro Light is going to be $800. The Pro, the
00:58:01
Pro is going to be $900 and then the Pro Tall, they call it, because I think it just gets taller, is going to be $1,000. So, yeah, really expensive. They They're
00:58:13
also selling um a lot of new accessories with these. They have a new leveling base for people who like that. And they
00:58:19
have spiked feet for $49. Oh, it does have the level on it. Yeah, it has a level. Oh, yeah. Both of them have level. Okay.
00:58:25
But a leveling base is like that weird like cage thing that you can use with cameras. It's like it's kind of an old
00:58:31
school like hardcore photographer feature. Um yeah, then they have spiked feet. So
00:58:36
I guess if you're you know in the mountains and you want to like really really really rig it down if you're do I
00:58:41
guess if you were doing like a really really long exposure and you just wanted it to not you know overnight kind of um
00:58:49
long exposure. I mean, they co-developed this with Jimmy Chin, so they're gonna Yeah. do it in a scenario where it's uh
00:58:55
Yeah, it's lasting out there for sure. Yeah. Anyway, just want to bring that up real quick.
00:59:00
All right. What did you have? I brought something that is significantly cheaper.
00:59:06
Yeah, probably. Cheapness is actually part of the reason why I find it interesting and probably more useful to more people, I would guess.
00:59:11
Uh maybe. So, my thing is is like you wanted to possibly label this section like our favorite things, but I don't want to call this a favorite cuz I was mostly kidding. Yeah. Yeah. This is You got one of these
00:59:23
that I saw on The Verge. You got one of these? So, I think I first saw it on the Verge. It is called the Cinda ergonomic mouse
00:59:29
rechargeable USB dual Bluetooth 302 vertical wireless mouth with volume knob. Some Amazon. There's actually more to that, but I don't feel like saying all of it. Essentially, it's a vertical ergonomic
00:59:41
wireless mouse that comes in some wild colors. I bought arguably the coolest color, which is like purple, yellow,
00:59:49
and like a vintagey green. Like this feels very like um it's like a turquoise like Rocco's modern life vibes green. Um and what so I I saw it because of the
01:00:02
color and because of the integrated volume knob. So essentially the mouse because it's vertical and ergonomic,
01:00:07
it's, you know, the the buttons are almost sideways and you hold it like you're holding a glass of water
01:00:14
essentially where you're kind of pinching it in between your hand. And then on the top now it's got extra
01:00:21
space. There's still a front and back button on the sides of it where your thumb rests, but above it there's a little knob that clicks in and can turn.
01:00:28
Um, that's what intrigued me by is the colors in that knob. Shaking in his boots. He hates knobs.
01:00:35
Um, what really intrigued me though is when I clicked on the link for it, it was on sale for $1959 with the the list price at $27.99.
01:00:46
That's crazy. Part I don't know how they're making money off of this. I'm by no means saying the
01:00:53
build quality on this is great. I wouldn't even say it's very good. Yeah, I would say it feels like it's 20
01:00:58
bucks. It feels like it's 20 bucks. But when you look at a Logitech, I think they have the Logitech Lyft and the Logitech
01:01:05
Vertical are two of theirs and they're like 80 and like over $100 for them and they're great mice and like people like Rich here love them. I don't love vertical ergonomic mice,
01:01:17
but I'm trying It's way better to get rid of your carpal tunnel. We'll see if it stresses me out more
01:01:24
than my carpal tunnel then I um But I think there's some design flaws in this. I I think the reason I want to be really
01:01:30
cautious about talking about this is because I've used it for less than a week and I don't know the durability of
01:01:35
it. Um, but for $20, I had to try and I'm going to keep trying it. The colors are sick.
01:01:41
It's USBC, which took Logitech years to finally switch to. It does. It can do two Bluetooth connections and the USB dongle, which I'm always a dongle person. I think it's easier. Um, just
01:01:54
like a little, you know, USBA. Yeah. Um, the things I have not liked about it is I don't believe there's any
01:02:01
software. So, I cannot change what the volume knob I can't change what the volume knob
01:02:06
dubs, which really sucks for me because I'm using an audio interface, which means my volume keys don't do anything
01:02:12
when I'm plugged into my desktop. Okay. So, the volume knob does nothing for me. Also, how sensit how do you deal with
01:02:17
sensitivity? There's there are three DPI modes and then you also can just change sensitivity inside of Mac OS or
01:02:24
whatever. How's the latency when you're playing old school Runescape? I was going to say you should play Valerant with this. I'm definitely not playing. I should try
01:02:31
Valerant with it. That would be hilarious how bad it would be. Kind of like the way it feels. I'd say that the um the sliders on the bottom
01:02:38
are horrible. Like it feels like it's kind of like there's a lot of It felt fine on my mouse pad.
01:02:43
Yeah, maybe the mouse pad would be better than this. My biggest gripe with it, and we found this out when we were comparing it to Rich, is the Logitech
01:02:50
verticals where your mouse rests almost has like a bed for your thumb to rest on where it juts out. This is just straight
01:02:57
down and you're kind of like always gripping this mouse. Um, I say it's kind of like if you're a climber, like pinch
01:03:05
holds, you're always pinching this. You're not really resting your hand on the mouse at all, which is comfortable,
01:03:10
I think. Um, which makes you really have to think about using it. I've been kind of enjoying it. I find myself doing way
01:03:17
more wrist movements than like whole arm movements to move things to go around and click on stuff. It's taken a really
01:03:22
long time to get used to vertical mouse. It feels really strange. Um, they're silent buttons, which is a lot of what like the MX Master's been doing now. I think they actually feel kind of nice.
01:03:34
Scroll wheel feels like but I don't really care that much. It's $19 and it works. The knob doesn't feel bad. It's
01:03:39
cheap plastic, but it's got some like nice feedback to The tactility of the clicking is nice. Yeah. And it's I mean it was essentially
01:03:46
plug and play. I plugged it right into my computer and it just started working. Um I'm assuming it would on a Windows as
01:03:51
well, but cool. Still I don't use for 20 bucks. Yeah, it's crazy. Seems I do not know what the battery life's yet. I I've charged it once and it's still going after.
01:04:03
How many colors does it come in? Yeah. What are the other colors? Four. So there's a plain black. There's a a pink. What are they even calling
01:04:11
this? They literally don't even have color. Oh, no. They're just calling it pink. Pink, but it's like two different types
01:04:16
of pink. The buttons and the scroll wheel are or sorry, the buttons and the volume knob are a different color. This is the purple and green version. They
01:04:24
just call it purple. There's a light blue version and there's the straight black version. That one's definitely You can also buy two packs of these.
01:04:30
What? Really? For $42. Wow. So, it's more Wait, right now that's more expensive, but it's not more expensive if you're assuming the list price of 20.
01:04:42
I don't know how cheap it how long it'll be this cheap. Yeah. Um, if you decide to go out and get this,
01:04:49
I cannot promise you how long long it will work. I assume it will work as long as $20 is worth. Um, but I was in I was
01:04:58
very intrigued by it. I want to see you game with this. There's no way I'm gaming. I need to see a pro Twitch streamer just using this.
01:05:04
And that would be I'm sure someone's done it, but getting like pro CS players to play it with like crappy. I bet the
01:05:11
latency on this is terrible. Yeah. But no one buys an ergonomic mouth for like great latency. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, that's that's it. Cinda ergonomic
01:05:25
302 Cena mult multiple device cordless mice compatible for Windows PC laptop Mac OS
01:05:31
Purple pink Cinda they make a bunch of other random stuff really yeah I've never heard of them although okay so here's my other thing this is probably why it's so cheap I'm almost
01:05:44
positive it's just whiteleabeled something because I saw a different really weird ergonomic mouse that looks
01:05:50
like an oven mitt And it's also vertical. That looks different, though. This is different. But Cena makes one
01:05:57
that looks exactly like this one, even though that one's from a different company. So, I basically found two of the exact same mice under two different
01:06:03
companies I'd never heard of, which makes me just assume this is white labelled from somewhere. Sounds like one of those Alibaba things.
01:06:09
Yeah. Yep. Got it. All right. Neat. Cool. Adam. Yep. All right. I've got two. One of them is hardware, one of them is software. Ooh. So, for the last few weeks, I have been asked a surprising
01:06:22
amount of times, what is this teal thing on the back of my phone? Oh, yeah. Those are awesome.
01:06:27
Yeah. This is a Moth tripod basically. So, it attaches Mag Safe to a phone. Now, I'm on iPhone, so it attaches perfectly. Last week, I was on Pixel, so it attaches to the case, but
01:06:38
but it will attach to the Pixel 10. It will attach to the Pixel 10 allegedly. We'll see in 14 days. But
01:06:45
it's just a a little Mags safe stand that like uses resistance to kind of prop itself up. Or if you need to get it
01:06:50
taller, you could like kind of fold it all the way out, which is really cool. It has multiple angles and stuff like that. So, it's just a really like handy
01:06:57
thing to have attached to your phone if you're not going to have anything on MagSafe anyway. Yeah, my friend Beer has that and she
01:07:03
does like content creation for a film company and it's amazing just watching her just like prop it up and making
01:07:09
stuff all the You know, Peak Design had a really awesome magnetic tripod for a phone, but it was like the proprietary
01:07:16
phone connect magnetic connection on their cases. And I just really disliked the fabric of their cases.
01:07:22
Yeah. Yeah. The tripod was sick. Like, it was so cool how maneuverable it was and how
01:07:28
small it was on the back of the phone. But their tripod case got grody. So, yeah, sorry. The phone case got groy. Have they changed the material of that? I have no idea. I don't know if they're even still really making.
01:07:39
They used this really at the beginning, they used this really thin light material that just kind of disgusting
01:07:46
pretty quickly. Yeah. And it had a lot of like um it was like woven. So whenever you have woven
01:07:51
stuff like that, it just means so much more dirt and grime. And I liked it because I could film climbing stuff with
01:07:57
it, which meant my hands were chalky, which meant that thing in like two weeks was disgusting. Yeah.
01:08:02
Yeah. Nice. All right. What's your software? the software that I got. Uh, the reason I actually switched back to the iPhone
01:08:08
was to try this piece of software and Brandon put me onto it a couple months ago, which is the not boring software
01:08:15
like suite of things. So, in one of the studio videos, he was talking about his weather app. The developer of that
01:08:21
weather app, Andy Allen, makes a bunch of different like utility apps. And basically, his whole thing is he takes a
01:08:28
app that's pretty much a stock app on the iPhone and just makes it super pretty and cool. Mhm.
01:08:33
So, like in the studio, Brandon was talking about the weather app. He recently released one for a camera. It's
01:08:40
like retro camera, and this camera app is just so sick. It's so fun to use. Not boring camera. It is not boring at all. And it it's almost like remember we spoke about the X a couple weeks ago.
01:08:52
Yeah, the Fuji X. The Fuji X. And it's like you use it because it kind of mimics a film camera.
01:08:58
Like that was part of the allore of it. Like you can't relook at the photos you use or whatever. This app kind of does
01:09:04
something similar, which is, you know, in the regular camera app, you take a picture, the little preview goes down to
01:09:10
like the bottom left and has like a gallery that you can then click to see what that does not exist on this camera
01:09:16
app. So, it is just the viewfinder, but you can customize the way the camera looks. It's really fun and quirky.
01:09:22
There's a bunch of colors and stuff like that. Um, and it does do like the best feature that I personally like about it
01:09:28
is that it does have really nice like filters and LUTs and recipes and you can even import your own L if you want.
01:09:35
It is a paid app. I believe it's like $14.99 for the year. So like I don't know a dollar or something a month. But
01:09:40
it's like overall a really fun app. You can also save just the straight up raw if you want. So you can take a regular
01:09:46
picture in their recipe or whatever and then still have your raw photo saved in the background which is cool. Uh, I prefer that. But so far, I've been really liking it. I've been using it for
01:09:57
like a week, and the pictures that I'm getting are like fantastic. Yeah, I love everything that these guys make.
01:10:03
UI looks really similar to your uh rendered iPad case from the Shark Tank episode. Oh, yes, you're right. A little more colorful, but it's just a really I I like seeing
01:10:15
things that have more intentional design. Yeah. And more fun. Yeah. But these guys also make not
01:10:21
boring calculator and not boring weather. Not boring habits. Yeah, I'm When you said a new app they
01:10:27
did and I looked on their thing and saw habits, I was like, he's about to talk about habits. Oh, that's next. I have that downloaded
01:10:32
as well. That's a good one. It seems like everything that they make is sort of like the most boring like utilitarian thing and they just make it
01:10:38
really fun. They just make it pretty and fun, which is one of the reasons I'm so excited about this is not iPhone, but
01:10:44
material 3 expressive cuz it's like the whole UI of the phone is that kind of fun material
01:10:51
expression. Yeah. But apps like these on iPhone that are just like fun to use and look cool.
01:10:57
Yeah, they definitely feel like material. Yeah, it's more like this is supposed to be fun and whimsical and different, you
01:11:03
know, not like very monotone and clean like the the old aesthetic of Apple. So, like having this app on an iPhone has
01:11:11
just been like a fun weird experience. Cool. So, highly recommend it. That's awesome. I just want to say, hey, Andy, us
01:11:17
Android people like to have fun, too. I wouldn't mind trying some of these out. I made a whole episode about why there
01:11:24
are so many different iOS apps and no Android. I want to have fun. You're not allowed. You're only allowed to go on. I'll have a lot of fun with my lemon cello pixel
01:11:35
piss color. All right, let's move on to trivia. Super head tohead trivia. Super head-to-head trivia. All right, so
01:11:49
first question. How well do you guys know each other? Look at your average screen time and guess the other person's
01:11:57
most used app. Go. And we're doing of like the last week, right? Last seven days. Yeah. Yeah. or like seven days in general. Not like the last seven days until now. But
01:12:08
I'm worried this is going to be really boring. Don't give him a hint. Oh, wait. You're giving me a hint.
01:12:14
Shoot. I think I know what it is now. Maybe at the end of these uh exhibition matches the winner will win something.
01:12:21
Who knows? No pressure. You probably won't win anything, though. All right. Flip them and read. What do you got? Oh, you went way too boring. Oh, dang. I said Instagram. I'm sorry.
01:12:34
You said Instagram. I said Google Maps. No, I forgot. You don't know what the answer is.
01:12:40
I said Instagram. No. All right. Mine was Instagram. Oh, really? Oh, dang. Mine was Mine was Reddit. Was it really? Yeah. Can I Wait,
01:12:51
cuz I'm I'm hooked on that Pokemon Trading Card game and you're reading all the like and the subreddit's really fun.
01:12:57
Okay. So, me and Ellis thought that yours was going to be the Pokemon trading card game. Oh, it was number one for today.
01:13:03
Oh, okay. I already had 45 minutes. That's what I should have guessed, though. So, wait, can we talk about
01:13:09
something with Reddit? That's really funny. My favorite thing about the new Reddit app is if you take a screenshot
01:13:14
of a postdit app, the Reddit app they killed all the other ever since they killed the good ones.
01:13:20
Yeah. Yeah. The bad official. If you screenshot a post, it recommends it's so quickly Bros post puts this
01:13:26
little crappy popup cuz it's in it's all in white and just like plain text. is just like, "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you want to share instead?"
01:13:33
Yeah. It's so much more fun if you share this with someone. I'm like, "Eat my screenshot." Yeah. Because then it gives you a link
01:13:40
and then the link opens the Reddit app. Yeah. Yeah. It's It makes me happy every time I
01:13:46
Yeah. It's like you can't stop me. I was worried mine was going to be Reddit cuz I still do go on it pretty
01:13:51
often and then get frustrated. But, you know, it wouldn't help my public image if it was Reddit. I will say annoying
01:13:58
cuz everyone sort of has their sort of like my brain needs sustenance uh app, right? I'm annoyed that mine has become Reddit as of recent weeks and I I do not like that. I've just tried to make my
01:14:12
following subreddits so actually mine are so small that the majority of the time Reddit just doesn't work for me
01:14:18
because it won't reshow me articles and then like just nothing will show up in the home
01:14:24
page which is another glaring awesome development by the Reddit app because it's just such a good app.
01:14:30
Yeah, it's really bad. It'sing terrible. Yeah, it's bad. Damn. But all right, you say that. What was the next? I don't remember the
01:14:36
next question. The next question is, what apps are on the other person's doc on your phone specifically? [Music] I'm going to answer and then ask a question.
01:14:47
Okay. Is it one point for each? No. Okay. You got this. No pressure. All right, flip them and read. What do you got? Uh, I put messages. Is that on there?
01:15:13
Uh, sorry. Okay. Wait. So, here's how I'm going to ask Adam. How do I score this? I have two folders on my dock.
01:15:20
What does every app inside my folders count? Yeah. So, David, basically, David can't lose. David could
01:15:27
have Your whole phone is on your You could have gotten 70 points off of this. How many apps do you have on your dock?
01:15:33
Each folder has 12 apps. You're a monster. And then I have three other dude. The entire point of the dock is
01:15:40
quick access. Yeah, quick access. Oh, 24 apps. No, but these folders if I accidentally
01:15:47
if I like get rid of one of them, I like forget how to function on this because like my thumb is so used to
01:15:54
picking things just by second nature that like if one of these shifts No. Oh yeah. I just pull down and change
01:16:01
everything. so much longer. I mean, yeah, but I don't need to worry about where it is.
01:16:06
I would argue 99% of the apps I use in a day are in one of these folders on my dock and it's just like it's almost like a shortcut key to just press it. This is insane.
01:16:16
How is that you guys type it out every time you want to find something? Well, I just have a doc and then if I
01:16:22
need to find something then yeah, I'll just search for it. Every time I I think the comments are going to agree with me on this one.
01:16:27
I don't disagree. I think the comments are on our side. Well, you guys also though Oh, you have a homepage though. I
01:16:32
have literally nothing else on my homepage. I only have my doc. Got it. I have like my most used apps on
01:16:40
my homepage. And then when I want to use something else, I swipe down and search. Yeah. I just have nothing on my
01:16:46
homepage. My five icons on the dock. Two of them are folders and they're the apps that I use every day. And I never go
01:16:52
into my app drawer. This question is kind of moot then. Well, cuz he has all Did I just show
01:17:00
you? Well, I'm not giving you Frisbee. Did I just show you? I wrote it down. He wrote it down already. But David, what did you say for
01:17:06
I said messages. Correct. Andrew, is that correct? Spotify. Spotify. That's in It's a very common one in one
01:17:12
of my folders. I would give him that. Google Maps. Correct. Correct. Some sort of Frisbee app.
01:17:18
There is a U disc is right here. Nice. Four for four. You shot yourself in the foot by having folders on that. That's your fault. I I'm it's just very excited for the I
01:17:30
don't know if this is like an Android verse iPhone thing or like I think just having fun with this like I
01:17:37
think you guys telling me the better thing is to go into your app drawer and search for it every time. No, you just swipe down.
01:17:43
Especially you because you like a clean Oh, swipe down and search. It's the same. I guess in Android you go into your app drawer.
01:17:48
Yeah, you just swipe up. But it's the same thing. But you like a clean first homepage. Like you don't like anything on there.
01:17:54
So it makes sense to me that you would just search for everything. Like why even why would I search when I can just tell me an app to press right now?
01:18:00
Uh you can do it looking Instagram. That's depressing. It's not depressing. It's just like these are the things that like I'm so used to. Okay. Slack.
01:18:11
Damn. Sheesh. What about you? Basically the folders my most common ones are usually on the bottom so I can
01:18:17
just press them again. It almost turns into the second doc and then like I don't know. I guess another common one
01:18:23
is my email or like Instagram or YouTube. Going back to our conversation from last
01:18:29
week though, that just means that you have this stored in RAM at all times. Physical motions.
01:18:35
I have to take screenshots of what my folders are because when I get rid of one that maybe I don't use as much and
01:18:40
then all of them shift, then I'm just like, oh no. And I try and click things and
01:18:46
it's just wrong all the time. See, muscle memory is unreliable. You should just use the built-in search function. I think that's insane.
01:18:53
Anyway, what did you say for David? Yeah. What did you say for me? I said phone. Uh, no. I sw I I No.
01:19:00
No. I don't use my phone. Messages. Yeah. I said camera. No. I said Reddit. No. And Instagram? No. What is on your There's only four in the iPhone doc, by
01:19:11
the way. I don't know that. Yeah. So, I have Pocketcasts. Nice. Far left because it's my most used app.
01:19:19
Um, messages. Okay. Okay. Then I have uh Arc Mobile which is my browser. Hey, you didn't put a browser on there. I have my browser in a folder.
01:19:32
Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Oh, I should have put Safari, but you use Arc. And then I have Spotify. And Spotify, which I've been trying to use uh YouTube
01:19:43
Music more recently, actually. Um Oh, really? But the UI is horrible. Yeah, it's nice. It's like so bad.
01:19:49
Mhm. I can tell you use a lot of audio on your phone cuz you have two audio things. Yeah. In the bottom. I listen to podcasts most of the day.
01:19:56
Yeah. Same. Yeah. So, dang. Cool. All right. Okay. Nice. Good question. I want to see the comments. We learned something new about you, Andrew. Yeah. Another thing I'm a machine.
01:20:08
Don't fix it. Search. I think searching. What about Google? Where's Google Tasks? Can you instantly get
01:20:14
Well, Google Tasks is the only thing I have on a different page. Oh, my next page is basically my Google task list and my calendar.
01:20:20
Okay. Which I also have calendar here, too. Multiple. Well, this is like if I want to go month by month. The other one's just like
01:20:26
what's going on. What's happening right now? Yeah. Okay, cool. Well, uh that's been it.
01:20:32
Let us know in the comments how wrong Andrew is. Yeah. Let us know in the comments uh how you feel about that.
01:20:37
We're very close to the Pixel event. We have one more episode. Um and then the next episode we actually record on the
01:20:43
day of the Pixel event. So, in two weeks when Marquez is finally back. Can't wait. Make sure you subscribe because the f
01:20:48
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01:20:54
million followers by the time he comes back, he will get stuck in China. He's going to get very sad if we don't have a million sub. That would honestly
01:21:01
be the craziest cry, bro. It's not a good site. Could you imagine if Marquez just came
01:21:06
back from China after only missing two episodes and we doubled in size subscriber wise?
01:21:11
Make it happen. That would be sick. Make it happen. We'll collab with Mr. Beast. Yeah, do a collab YouTube post
01:21:17
with this. Anyway, that's been it. Catch you guys later. See you in the next one.
01:21:22
Peace. Wait for is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Roven. We're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network. Energ music was created by Main Silk.
01:21:28
Bingo. Let's go. [Music] Oh, and you can break it down into categories, too. Yeah, there's a lot of data there. There's a lot of data. There's a lot of smarts and also a lot of data.
01:21:50
I mean, that's a lot of smarts, but also a lot of data. Exactly. Marquez, thanks. Wow. It's like he's here. Thanks for chiming in.