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OnePlus and Xiaomi’s New Folding Phones

August 11, 2023 / 01:10:17

This episode of the Waveform Podcast covers topics such as the Apple Vision Pro's new battery name, Google's RCS messaging updates, TikTok's entry into podcasting, and the latest foldable phone leaks from OnePlus and Xiaomi.

Hosts Marquez, Andrew, and David discuss the recent change in the Apple Vision Pro's battery name from MagSafe to Magic Battery, highlighting the confusion around its functionality. They also touch on the implications of this rebranding and its performance.

Google's RCS messaging service is now enabled by default for users, which the hosts believe is a significant step towards enhancing user experience. They discuss how this change positions Google against Apple in the messaging wars.

The episode also features a discussion on TikTok's new podcast hosting capabilities, exploring how this could change content consumption on the platform and the potential for user engagement.

Finally, the hosts share insights on the latest foldable phone leaks, including details about OnePlus and Xiaomi's upcoming devices, and how these innovations are shaping the smartphone landscape.

TL;DR

The episode discusses Apple Vision Pro updates, Google's RCS, TikTok podcasts, and new foldable phone leaks.

Episode

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xdr and like a pretty nice phone all right no headphones
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nah for the rest of the year the Mac Pro speakers only yeah
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the produce light doesn't even have speakers six thousand dollar Tower six thousand
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dollar monitor all audio playing from under your desk foot level audio really terrible mix that would be rough but wow
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you could spend it
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what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm
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Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and this has been a I don't want to say strangely quiet Newsweek because you've
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heard about the quest before the storm but it is it has been a pretty quiet Newsweek but we do kind of have like a
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grab bag of random topics that we do want to talk about that are all kind of related or somewhat in Tech I just hit
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the mic but that's okay um so we got to talk about our favorite RCS messages we have Tick Tock getting
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into the podcast World which is actually maybe not as crazy as it sounds uh two new foldables and we also have a fun New
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Game we're gonna try to play which involves budgeting for your Tech it'll make sense when we get there
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but first we have huge breaking Apple Vision Pro news it's something that they
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didn't say in the keynote but we've learned something factual potentially about Apple Vision Pro are you ready for
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this I'm Ready the previously named magsafe battery pack is now actually
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going to be called the magic battery
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if this battery is actually magic two hours it would last longer than two hours and would it need to be another
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battery pack strapped into it to last longer you wouldn't have to plug it in to watch a full movie I think it's funny because they said it was like mag safe
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or whatever on stage and I think everyone assumed it would just like slap onto the side with a magnet because that's what magsafe usually is yeah but
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I don't think that's exactly what was happening and I think they saw all the reviews and impressions videos and realized oh that's confusing and then
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they took the magsafe name out and they just said what do we call it magic magic but it's still a two-hour battery what
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else does it has Apple called Magic besides the mouse a lot magic Trackpad magic keyboard keyboard magic I feel
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like there's software accessories the disk drive is the magic drive is it really yeah it was they like that word
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is no they still sell it for 79 in the store I've had to buy it because when I got an x-ray they give you it on a disk
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and I had to figure out how to buy a CD drive for my Mac that was rough you
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might be the only person who's bought an 80 disk drive to look at your X-ray I wanted to look at my x-ray I was like is
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my hand broken or not I guess I have to spend this money and figure this out yeah that's amazing wow yeah they have
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the it's literally was it broken it was broken yeah that's I remember probably worth the 80 exactly uh so yeah that
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Apple also loves using the word magic on stage to describe how things work they're not the only company though I
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feel like Google did that a lot with like the magic magic eraser Magic Eraser and they'll say things are just like
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magic it works just like magic yeah well there's that quote any sufficiently
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advanced technology is indistinguishable from Magic and I agree with that quote yeah I agree with it in the Apple Vision
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Pro also it is a battery a magical thing the least magical thing about it is
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true honestly the headset itself like doing that demo everything kind of felt like magic the battery is just a battery
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the headset is more magical than the battery but would you have bought Apple Magic headset
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magic leap was the name of a real thing that's true magic leap was a real thing yeah magic headset would be a terrible
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name yeah it's true but but I wouldn't count it out anyway okay so we have
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Google messages turning on RCS by default um and group end and encryption is now launched I noticed this because I
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was texting from a review phone to another phone that I had and it was
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immediately RCS by default on and I was very happy about that and I was like I didn't I don't think I'd turn that on though that was cool cool to see
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um the iPhone is still no longer involved in this whole RCS thing yeah
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that's pretty much it yeah yeah yeah I mean Google kind of was pushing this ad campaign for the last year or so called
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get the message or they've been trying to get apple to adopt RCS or at least
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allow RCS in the Apple messages app not gonna happen um but I think you know when Google
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first launched this I was like uh it feels like they're just being really like weirdly aggressive and like it's
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not really gonna do anything but I do think that it has helped the general
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public Consciousness kind of like be more on Google side and I think that's the intention yeah I think that's a
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marketing campaign like I don't think they expect Apple to change at all but it's a sweet marketing campaign to be
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like hey look Apple's not changing this but we have yeah I I noticed like it's been a very uh well-received topic by
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people who find out it's kind of interesting like I don't think this ad campaign is designed to sell Android phones no or to to get apple to actually
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change anything but I think because Google knows that there's no shot to ever change it that they can just push
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on as hard as they want with this and if they do actually change they win but also if they don't change everyone just
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gets to see apple painted as kind of the bad guy in this one feature War yeah uh
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we did a video or a short on RCS and this whole part of the battle that they've been waging for a while and a
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lot of people in the comments are like whoa yeah I didn't know about this and this is actually crazy I didn't realize that yeah I remember Hassan Minaj was
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here we were talking um on The Daily Show and the same thing happened like he was asking me why are
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like the messages like there are so many different messaging platforms and like every time I try to message someone on the Android phones don't work with the
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iPhones and I actually explained I think for the first time he's ever heard that I was like you know that's actually by Design
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right like Tim Cook literally he'd never heard that yeah he was like yeah uh like
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get your mom an iPhone he was like oh really that's actually fascinating we live in such a bubble yeah that's so
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easy so they're getting it out the bubble they're like spending money to tell people about this I think that them turning it on both by default for new
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and existing users is like really important and really good it's very rare
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that a company will Auto flip on a switch that you have to opt out of yeah that has already been off because
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generally when you would start using Google messages and RCS became available to your carrier there would be a pop-up
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that was like do you want to turn on RCS messaging but like what regular people that don't know what are like they'd
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have no idea what that means exactly when it first came out I like had my specific friends I turned it I was like
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I know who has this on right now I texted like three people and then immediately saw like them typing back to
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me and all the things and we were all like oh my God this is so sick yeah no one cares yeah I mean Google is changing
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like a lot of the verbiage in the messages app too because they now instead of like start a new message it
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says start a new chat and I think they understand that the word chat to people feels more like a free-flowing like live
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thing whereas messaging is more of like uh like an email it's like a little old
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schooler yeah for sure yeah yeah um but yeah it's crazy that they turned it on my default for everybody I think that's really good they had 800 million
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people using RCS as of IO and they said by the end of the year they'll have over
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a billion I'm pretty sure this just pushed them over like multiple billion the easiest way to get to it big number
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is enforce it yeah but I think it's going to be great overall for a lot of people who now just start texting each
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other and all of a sudden they have like you know Rich messaging features I'm gonna say it feels like there's no downside yeah just in the way I'm
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looking at it I think if you asked apple or if you asked other companies they'd be like well this is the Google RCS or
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there are certain things that they don't want to to like jump in with Google on but generally if I'm a user it's like oh
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you just turned on encryption for me you just added features for me and you just gave me like typing indicators and reactions I feel like that's a win
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totally yeah yeah and I think that over the next few years like the sooner they were gonna get this out the door the
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better because over the next few years it'll become less and less of a meme that Google doesn't have a competitor
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iMessage which I think is really good because like throughout most of the world Android phones are way more
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popular than the iPhone yeah so just being able to have something that can be with that is good um the group end-to-end encryption
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finally being live also very important because when you would talk about RCS to people a lot of people who are sort of
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in the know would be like RCS is still a joke because it doesn't have group end-to-end encryption they mentioned
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that they were going to do this like over two years ago um single user to user and encryption
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through RCS launched over two years ago in a while yeah and they've said we're working on group messaging and then
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encryption forever and they just launched it so very glad it's finally here do we know what happens yet if one
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person in the group chat doesn't have it does it just become the new I don't know like the whole thing breaks I would like
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to test this um because it's either the whole thing breaks but at uh WWDC this year one of
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the updates that they didn't actually talk about on stage but was an update to iMessage was that if you have an Android
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User in a group chat but there are also other iPhone users in the group chat the
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iPhone users can continue to use a lot of the iMessage features with each other and the Android users just won't really
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see those yeah and they won't really work for them but that it's sort of like two side like
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double-sided coin right like you could that could be good or that could be bad depending on how you look at it so they
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could either do that app Google could even either do that or they could just make it totally break so it's kind of up
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to them I might have to try it yeah I have to try it I think we have to test it yeah mess around and find out so
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Dieter is very happy shout out Dieter Dieter good one we're in the in the basement of a Google office
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yes having a pizza party right yes baby um all right what is this headline about
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Tick Tock hosting full podcast I'm not really sure all I see this this headline
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and I'm like all right tick tock with short videos and then it was 60 second videos and then it was 10 minute videos
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and then now suddenly they're like continuing to expand into like full-on YouTube competitor and their hosting
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podcast is that what's happening it's I read it this morning and I thought it was kind of interesting and I was
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confused like you were at first because when I see the people who watch tick tocks what is the most polar opposite
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form of content they would ever do that hour plus long audio podcasts yeah feel
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just like Polar Opposites but um I actually do think it looks kind of neat and I think in there so at first I
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thought like and it's something we do on waveform is WE Post short form content vertically on reels on shorts on Tick
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Tock right and sometimes they do pop off but the reason shorts is the best for all of those is because immediately they
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can go to Something in the same player to get to our actual podcast and that's the video podcast and this what they're
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doing is they're letting you link your RSS feed into a podcast profile I guess I haven't figured this
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out they said they started to roll it out to some users but we haven't gotten it yet but essentially you can upload
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that podcast episode from the RSS feed to link to any clips that you make into
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Tick Tock so if you watch a 60 seconds long clip or whatever on Tick Tock of a podcast that seems interesting through
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that you can click to it and it'll link to that audio episode oh what I don't know about this yet is is it going to
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pop up and say um like listen to this in Spotify Apple podcast Pocket Casts or is Tick Tock
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gonna have some weird audio player that it'll play in just pulling from the RSS feed uh that I don't know we don't know
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I would have either one happening I would like it to pull you to something else but I would assume they would want you on Tick Tock as long as possible
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yeah so I could see that's the Assumption it would make sense if they if they like kicked you out to just like
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whatever your phone's default uh podcast player is yeah but also if you're a tick tock you would rather not just kick
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people out even other apps yeah so they're probably going to have some sort of embedded tick tock UI maybe for
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playing back audio files yeah the person that wrote this up has a quote that says that it will allow listen it will allow
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users to listen to the audio of a video on the new podcast page while all the app is in the background yeah so you
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won't be leaving The Tick Tock yeah it makes sense that's kind of like an in-app player I guess
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but and then open a link in Twitter it has like the built-in browser inside of Twitter instead of kicking you out to
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your browser but the problem with that is that you have to stay in that browser if you don't want to to cut out so that
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does seem kind of weird because if you're on Tick Tock and you're just scrolling through tick tocks and you see a clip and you like it and then you hit
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the button are you going to just like be in that player for an hour I think you can I think what Adam said is that
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player can be in the background and play just like Spotify doesn't have to be separate from the tech talk app though I
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don't think it's separate from The Tick Tock I don't think you can scroll on Tick Tock anymore like yeah but if you were to turn it on you can then still go
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on any other app on your phone just like a regular media I can't picture someone being like Tick Tock scroll
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oh new new podcast clip and then just leave the scroll most people are like in
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this scroll for a while and they weren't just about to leave they're like I want to save this for later yeah I want to listen to this tomorrow but just like
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leaving the feed immediately and listening to an hour audio episode seems insane I see like definitely the pro of
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this which is Tick Tock like wants you to be putting stuff like that up there and then this is a way that potentially
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you can link to it faster so for a Creator it's better and if it does somehow leave you on that page playing
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for tick tock it still counts as like people staying in the app which I'm sure is great to boost numbers but also like
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like I said before who on Tick Tock wants to go listen to an audio podcast when you're in like Tick Tock slow
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attention span scrolling mode this is interesting it feels like it would be a
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better feature for Google because they have the Google podcasts app they have YouTube music and they have YouTube yep
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and if you and then you have YouTube shorts so if you see a podcast on YouTube shorts maybe you want to go to
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that clip on YouTube or maybe you want to go to the Google podcast app is it um
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YouTube music or it was one feature that allows you to watch the podcast and then
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switch between the audio and video version yeah it's so confusing that they have a podcast app and they also have
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YouTube music which plays podcasts yeah that's so and they also have the clip feature where you can like link someone
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to a clip of a video and it'll look like just a short video but you're actually watching part of a longer video that you
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can expand that stems from streaming because twitch has it it's called twitch because like if you're doing an eight
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hour thing and you want to just like show a really quick part of that and then when YouTube started going harder into the streaming platform they added
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that can you do that on regular videos yeah oh really yeah so you can link any long video like a section so instead of
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just time stamp linking you can just like basically shorten it for them to just a clip I've never put it together
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that it's the same player for live streaming and regular so you can clip regular videos do you still get a view
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for that screw your view duration or probably yeah probably a typical Google
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like have this fun new feature and watch a video algorithm get destroyed yeah
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media that you can like jump into a game at any point it was a game it was a picture they wanted to bring but they
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never they never did they did that for podcasts that was a that Stadium feature was really funny because it it got
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announced and it was just like the uh the like erasing the fence feature it never actually happened but the whole
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time you're like wouldn't it be cool if I was watching someone live stream a game and then they failed at a level and
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then I just double clicked the game and I was in that level yeah it was that exactly what they're saying never yeah
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that was way too good to be true yeah that was such a cool idea that we'll never see I don't think yeah look what's
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funny this actually would make a lot of sense for Spotify only because that's what I was thinking the way that they
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reason they recently like reorganized Spotify to feel more like Tick Tock
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because you know how now on Spotify they have like a discover thing where it plays the like most fun 10 seconds of a
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song to see if you want to listen to the song I remember that changing but now I'm realizing I don't know if my number
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fully changed mine updated temporarily and then went away did like just enough
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stuff come out that people like hated it because mine is definitely yeah old Goods I think that it's like hidden in
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there like it shows up sometimes on your home feed now okay but what they could do is they could have if you have a
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video podcast it could show you like a clip of the podcast and then if you tap on it because the benefit of Spotify
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video is that you can like transition between audio and video all the time yeah so being able to do that through
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there makes sense because they already have a tick tock-esque feature um and surprisingly a ton of people use
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Spotify for podcasts oh yeah I do they've been pushing it yeah same person for a while I mean I don't I usually
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yeah do you use it for video podcast too no all right so I have absolutely no I I've started listening
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to some podcasts in Spotify but I haven't actually pulled up a video
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podcast there's still a lot of them on YouTube quick question why don't you guys use it it's just my like what I
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listened to all my music on so it just feels like the audio platform for me yeah it's been like forcing its weight like one or two podcasts I listened to
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got removed because they bought it like Spotify bought it and I did Spotify exclusive so like okay now I have like
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two podcasts I'm subscribed to and Spotify so I'll listen to those over there but everything else is in Pocket
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Casts and like organize and I have my system for it yeah so like I kind of bounced back and forth I guess yeah I
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don't for a few reasons like one I like my apps to be Consolidated into the specific things they're for yeah and
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I've used Pocket Casts since like it was born in like two thousand 10. it's like
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a really old app that is now amazing um and it auto downloads a podcast all these things and then also uh I have
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listened to a couple episodes through Spotify whether because they were like Spotify exclusive or someone sent me a
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link to like a show that I'm never gonna listen to again but only wanted to hear that episode yeah and spend it send it
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through Spotify the problem is that once you listen to a podcast episode in Spotify it starts recommending podcasts
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with the music it recommends you yeah so it just starts popping up Podcast recommendations and it's like I don't
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want that I listen to specific podcasts that I want I don't really do a discovery thing that often I do wonder
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and and to slightly go back to tick tock here is like the reason I won't like say
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this is bad at all as any discoverability in podcasts feels good because of how bad that's true the
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podcast world has no horribility I think the every podcast should be on YouTube just for the discoverability part even
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if you have no video it's hard to make a podcast discoverable because it's not a
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quick consumption thing and it's not like a it's not all in one place like an RSS feed means you can we're all
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listening on different apps like there's so many other places you can have it so they'll all have potentially their own discoverability but I also agree with
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you on Spotify like when I get into a podcast listening mode then I'm mad that none of my music is showing up as like
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the recent or recommended or then I'm listening to music and I listen to One podcast and then like it's all podcasts
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again and so like that split would be nice I like to have them segmented that's why it's interesting to me that in other countries like China where you
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have WeChat that has everything in it people are like okay with that there but I feel like in a lot of more Western
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countries peop like people like to have separate steps for everything which just like I'm not sure that this x app thing
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yeah that's the only reason it's not gonna work I don't know who knows it could
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um I'm interested to see what kind of conversions this Tick Tock thing makes in the end well if we get the offer I
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mean if we get the opportunity to try it we'll try it because we make the clips anyways then all we have to do is link each episode but I'm very interested to
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see who's like I want to watch 30 seconds of my numbing like video clips and then listen to a one-hour Tech
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podcast after Audio Only I'm sure it's a non-zero notebook but we'll find out exactly how
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low that number is eventually yeah yeah sick all right well we should take a quick break but we also need to talk about this one plus foldable leak and
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some other things after the break so before we get there let's do some trivia
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[Music] trivia so we just spent the past 10-ish
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minutes talking about podcasts and RSS feeds and all that fun stuff oh boy what does RSS stand for
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I know it I don't I don't I'm glad I know it yes that's a point for me yes
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we'll be right back oh we'll do the we'll do the answers at the end like we usually do yeah but I know the answer we'll be right
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right welcome back we have foldables a lot of foldables and hot foldable summer hot full foldable's
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new it's it's kind of popping it is but no I just like that I I like that a lot
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yeah that's the summer of foldables that's 20 20. I think we have the title for this episode yeah
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it's like Wawa's hoagiefest but it's fully Fest whoa oh that's a title thanks
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that's a title to make a logo for that hold that title back pocket foldy fast just keep that one yeah there's no SEO
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on that one no yeah there's none um but we have a OnePlus foldable and a xiaomi foldable and xiaomi sure you might as
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well talk about them
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xiaomi ad yeah they just have this like chime you know everyone has a chime like Samsung has like
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it's the same chime every time like xiaomi has a chime but then after the chime it's just a a generic voice saying
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[ __ ] very powerful male narrator and just goes xiaomi yeah and it's every
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it's every time it's every time just so you know that's why I said it like that it should start ending and we can HD
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videos like that just do it MKBHD it's like a weird like audio sample DJ show
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me uh what's up guys MKBHD here where were we okay they're
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making a foldable Adam can play it they're making a foldable so the the xiaomi one is just like a little bit of
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a I guess it's a teaser of like that what it'll look like the mix three and I think the most interesting part about
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all these is how each of these form factors is looking slightly different like prioritizing different things yeah
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because at this point we kind of have a whole new landscape of foldable devices we have rumors about this one plus
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foldable being more like passport shaped but squared up if it is I will be so happy then we have I'm going to pull out
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the pixel fold yeah which is like passport shaped but more rounded on the sides yeah we also have the tall skinny
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candy bar that unfolds like the Samsung fold so there's a there's a bunch of yeah this is becoming like a we're
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realizing foldable tier lists soon honestly I feel like candy Samsung whack
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if I was working at Samsung right now I'd be thinking really hard about uh adjusting the shape or making a new
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phone with a like a passport yeah I agree because that seems to be I mean I just way prefer using that shape of a
00:25:08
foldable if there was any company to make like two foldables uh not including the flip but you know two Samsung hot
00:25:15
dog yeah Samsung would do it easy uh but the xiaomi one their thing is like it's going to be super thin yeah and you open
00:25:22
that phone and you're like dang each half of this is like way thinner than a normal phone but you put it together and use it and it feels like the thickness
00:25:27
of one normal phone the last foldable they made was like that it was super thin yep almost no crease on there's
00:25:33
another one too which uh a lot of them are doing way better with the crease yeah basically and they
00:25:39
flatten it out so it's like the the xiaomi one has quad cameras on the back it seems like it's going to be an ultra
00:25:45
high-end Flagship the one plus one there's some leaked specs potentially it's got Flagship specs as well 4800
00:25:52
milliamp hour battery Snapdragon 8 gen 2. strong rear cameras I love that was
00:25:58
my favorite lead spec strong rear camera strong nice does the leak have the Hasselblad logo yeah it does yeah so
00:26:04
they still got to get their money's worth out of that yeah why add another camera when you can put a Hasselblad logo there instead yeah the flash is
00:26:12
literally in this render for mom leaks is literally off the camera bump so they can put a Hasselblad logo that's where
00:26:18
the flash probably because we got something yeah sure
00:26:26
do you use a flash ever on your phone when taking pictures
00:26:33
no but I used a flashlight I like flashlight okay that's different so there is number one do you use a flash
00:26:38
for the camera no number two do you like flashlight for anything yes the flashlight yes and then number three do
00:26:45
you think most other people actually do use the flash I think if when people use the flash for photos it's because they
00:26:52
have auto flash on but they just leave it because they're morons well well also we're all trying to say here the default
00:26:59
now is to have everyone has a night mode now right and night mode with that kind
00:27:04
of HDR generally like doesn't use the flash at all so you have it has to be a very intentional decision for you to
00:27:10
turn flash on now let's hear from Ellis he said he does use the flash I do use the flash for what uh
00:27:17
I do not enjoy the look of photographs on my iPhone 12s long exposure night
00:27:24
mode yeah just a look well in a lot of situations yeah and I'm willing to trade
00:27:30
off kind of spotty lighting but also in my home studio I have a big like rack
00:27:38
like of gear against a wall and it's really annoying to get behind it and so
00:27:43
I very often have to take my phone and reach over it and take a picture again a lot and uh the flash really
00:27:51
comes in handy there so in in photos that you consider like taking to show other people or like because that's a
00:27:57
photo you're just taking for the information at that point right but like if you're gonna post something on Instagram or Twitter probably never
00:28:03
Flash no I did use a flash for that like a week ago I'm trying to remember the exact I reported it I will say that um a
00:28:10
lot of the younger generation right now that like 90s party flash camera look is
00:28:16
becoming really pop killer again I was just I was gonna say the same thing like yeah people like the look of less
00:28:22
polished maybe it's just because like disposable cameras had a moment and like that look had a moment but also I had a
00:28:28
conversation I overheard a conversation recently that it's like sometimes you just hear a normally conversation you're
00:28:34
like Ah that's the way people think about it yeah and you know how when you have most night mode if you're like in a
00:28:40
dark enough situation you hit night mode you have to hold it still for like three seconds I think they said something like
00:28:45
oh yeah I just I'll turn the flashlight because otherwise it takes too long yeah
00:28:50
that's exactly why people use the flash yeah because it takes three sides to not have a flag I gotta tell you a story
00:28:56
okay I was I was outside um this is when I was in the Pacific Northwest a couple weeks ago and I was
00:29:02
outside by a lake in the evenings in the evening and there was this person who
00:29:07
like also pulled up near us to do this like landscape thing but they went to take a photo like of the stars are like
00:29:13
oh wow the stars are so beautiful and they turn their flash on and hit the shutter button yeah so you can see the
00:29:20
stars that's what they said they're like oh I gotta turn the flash on and I was like Oh My Sweet Summer child
00:29:27
I don't think that light is going to illuminate the Stars I've used the flash for like food photography like if you're
00:29:34
trying to get like a close picture of like a plate it can be an Aesthetics yeah for sure choice but that's it I
00:29:41
feel like every time I've taken a picture of food with the flash it turns it into like a Lemony Snicket get that
00:29:47
nowhere near me if your plane is reflective enough you'll have an orb glowing if you're in a dark room or a
00:29:54
darker room like a restaurant and you have the flashlight now all of a sudden your food is casting Shadows on itself true yeah it's terrifying it's a Vibe if
00:30:02
you're in a darker room like a restaurant or my favorite is the people who don't realize the flash is on in a dark space and they take it you see them
00:30:08
just like hide their camera immediately like I was amazing okay sorry I have another story Andrew
00:30:14
oh my God see how long it takes the light just is on now that was a focus Flash
00:30:22
David just flashed me for audio listening and it took it like three seconds I'm
00:30:28
not even in the photo I've literally backed off from the flash at that point that's right sorry anyways all this is
00:30:35
to say when I see the flash up in the corner of this OnePlus phone I think personally who cares it's a flash I'm
00:30:41
never gonna use it but I also remember that there was a brief age where like we went from single LED flash to dual LED
00:30:49
flash and then dual tone for two different temperatures of LED flash so we could match the temperature of the
00:30:55
flash to the the color temperature of the room and there was this whole then there was a Moto phone with a ring light
00:31:01
around the camera like there was a like a three year period where we really seemed to care about Flash well the
00:31:06
manufacturers did at least yeah they cared about Flash it kind of like 3D TVs we all just kind of went never mind yeah
00:31:12
it's fine so I have a story okay so this apple find end that I've been using from around the office also has a flash on it
00:31:19
and it's a foldable yeah which is how this conversation started can we get back to foldable oh yeah yeah thanks yeah thank you wait I actually do have
00:31:25
something so like in these OnePlus renders we're talking about it being squared off and that looks very squared off yeah but there's the flash big
00:31:31
enough yeah have you ever I have a story about flashes they put the Hasselblad logo where the
00:31:39
flash should have been yeah they should have called it hassle Flash oh my God wait but in the me mix three
00:31:47
teaser continue they're definitely doing the like kind of bezeled edges to make it feel thinner right yeah yeah yeah
00:31:53
yeah the thing is it's bezeled on both sides would it be weird to have it only bezel on the outside portions of it and
00:31:59
then flat on the middle so then when it's folded like you're holding a normal phone it's only like the exterior is
00:32:05
bezeled and you don't feel the I agree with you Bevel it on the outsides because the inside I've I've held that
00:32:13
before what phone was like that that was like beveled on the inside and outside and it just felt weird right because you
00:32:18
feel that there's a split in the middle and when you're holding it like that it's just weird to have it curved on both sides but I get it because like the
00:32:25
old onepluses were beveled on the outsides and the phones felt so thin despite not actually being that much
00:32:30
thinner so if you have a thicker phone make it feel thinner but then also don't make it feel like a huge Crackdown something they changed from the Oppo
00:32:36
Find N1 do they find N2 was that the final one was rounded and beveled on both sides on and then the final two
00:32:44
they flatten to the sides and the final two feels a lot better in my opinion there's a xiaomi though for getting the name of that had the right side thicker
00:32:52
than the left side do you remember this they made a foldable where one oh no no the foldable it was the outside fold I
00:33:00
think it's a normal fold but yeah it was a wedge shape so the entire thing opened
00:33:05
was a wedge shape and when you folded it shut it was a rectangle and because you had more weight in the right hand it
00:33:13
would feel like the center of gravity was more in your hand because now when you hold a foldable wide open it's like yeah it's kind of it's kind of I
00:33:19
remember what you're talking about now yeah wasn't the Huawei the first wobble it might have been yeah I think yeah it
00:33:25
was the first mate X it was a Huawei it had that like hand grip on the right side whatever happened to that idea yeah
00:33:30
no no that's kind of cool that was the one that folded outside and that's because it had the cameras on it and it
00:33:36
had to fold like into the cameras yeah so I guess technically that weight was weighted differently but it was
00:33:41
different Huawei wedged there was like a Edge so if you look up mate X2 see this yeah
00:33:47
it looks so weird it looks like yeah you like sharpened it like you're sharpened a stick at the campfire yeah but it did
00:33:52
have a really interesting good feel in the hand so there's there's a whole bunch of new folding ideas happening
00:33:58
they're kind of floating out there we're trying to figure out what works and folding phones what people actually buy the thing is they're all still so
00:34:03
expensive it's not like we're getting like a 700 folding phone unless maybe the razor comes out and it's 700 bucks
00:34:09
because the Razer plus is still a thousand oh right there's the cheaper one coming out yeah but as of right now
00:34:15
it's still in early adopter phase but we have just way more options to early adopt it's actually foldable summer my
00:34:21
guys yeah gotta vote with our wallets can I end this on a question sure do you think we'll have a foldable
00:34:26
category in the smartphone Awards this year I think we should it's if there's ever a year to do it
00:34:32
we're I mean obviously every year is going to have more and more but this feels like legitimately a dozen choices
00:34:37
yeah I I am willing to commit to that okay wow
00:34:43
yeah on this part here first just like every year we've gotten closer and closer and I think this past year the
00:34:48
best compact phone category I I had a moment where I was like I I think I have to pick a non-folding phone because when
00:34:55
I open the folding phone it's not as compact as the Zenfone yeah but it is technically more compact yeah and these
00:35:02
folding phones kind of deserve their own recognition and I feel like this year there's just so many ideas yeah worthy
00:35:08
of being recognized that we should have a for the first time a new category in
00:35:14
the smartphone Awards probably since its Inception I think we've only added one category ever so yeah folding phone is
00:35:20
getting an award that's another trophy it's another truth it's coming out of somebody's paycheck
00:35:25
I did not suggest this it's a 200 trophy no yeah I think we should do that and
00:35:31
I'm not gonna give any teasers but I've been daily driving but you guys already know I've been daily driving pixel fold
00:35:36
for a while it's my favorite foldable to come out this year but there's still more coming you heard it the winner
00:35:41
already maybe maybe the OnePlus will be good when you guys see the video you can
00:35:46
comment I knew about this because I watched the podcast six months ago in December you'll be like I found out in August
00:35:53
if you comment that in December
00:36:02
all right that's it um we're gonna go to an ad break and next up we have a fun game that Adam
00:36:08
kind of created last night I don't think you really know about it David kind of knows about it I kind of know about it
00:36:14
sort of it's gonna be fun you won't want to miss it trivia question and there's those trivia questions right now that
00:36:19
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00:36:52
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00:37:05
Max a the display B it's processor
00:37:11
C it's cellular components so like antenna 5G modem stuff like that or D
00:37:16
it's camera system I didn't know that Counterpoint was
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going to play a game that I thought of a couple days ago and I told Andrew yesterday and he seemed about it I'm
00:38:58
calling it uh break the budget we have music for it already I always
00:39:04
have music I love you
00:39:09
guys is pick a number out of the hat which was Andrew's idea this morning great idea yeah I wrote down a bunch of
00:39:16
prices there's an X in there or a y oh I should have I wrote down a bunch of prices I put it in a hat on a piece of
00:39:22
paper you have to pick the piece of paper and you will get a budget so let's say I don't know fifteen thousand
00:39:28
dollars okay that would be great because I would love 15. but so what you have to
00:39:36
do is pick three devices three three devices you can't go over that budget
00:39:42
that you would use for the rest of the year in your everyday life and they're they're your only Tech pieces only Tech
00:39:48
pieces yeah yeah so like your laptop headphones like anything that's
00:39:55
Tech wow the only stuff you can use right like you're trying to figure this out like
00:40:01
you can't say like oh work has this nice laptop I can just take home for this
00:40:07
weekend it's like your personal use technique stuff do we have the same jobs in this hypothetical we're all because
00:40:13
like I literally can't do a lot of my job with that budget well no so we were saying like work has computers that we
00:40:20
use for work but like when you leave and you have your computer personal personal stuff personal stuff okay let me go
00:40:26
hungry you can still have your red camera at the office okay yeah yeah but if you're shooting a family video with it you have to use whatever you think
00:40:33
and it has to stay under the budget and you have to pick three you can't be like I'm only picking one and screw the other two like you have to go watch this
00:40:40
Tesla's AI robot cost and is it is it MSRP uh yes great I disagree I think we
00:40:46
should be able to do use stuff if you can find it and prove it right now during that okay okay I'll agree if you
00:40:51
can look it up and it's used for a certain price right now I'll accept that yeah I think you have to find it yeah if
00:40:58
you'd be cool with using it then that's yeah I love you stuff do you think this is easiest if
00:41:05
we all pick and all start looking thinking at the same time and then we all just one by one go through or do you
00:41:10
think one person should do all three one person should go at a time at a time top of the Dome I do like top of the dog
00:41:16
okay sounds like you're going first sounds like I'm going first all right I'm picking out of the Hat I hope you're
00:41:22
getting 350 the number all right I have a piece of paper in my
00:41:28
hands I'm opening it the number I have one thousand five hundred dollars U.S
00:41:36
well that was really good three quarters of a fold I guess I'm not using the pixels
00:41:43
okay so I'm gonna start I think my Daily Tech is gonna be a phone a computer
00:41:50
and headphones yeah I think I don't really think I need a camera if I've did in a phone okay I think I'm gonna go
00:41:55
shoot Zenfone 10 I could go Zenfone 9 actually let me
00:42:01
look up Zenfone so Marquez all right what did you find with this one I'm good you're all ready so yeah I'm good wow so
00:42:07
Zenfone 9 new 600 dollars okay um so you've got 900 left yes headphones
00:42:16
ath m50s wired plugs right into the Zenfone
00:42:21
right that's right of course you could be those are about 130 about 130 and
00:42:29
then I'm trying to figure out if I want to do laptop or iPad I'm genuinely torn because an iPad I think puts me I can't
00:42:34
do the pro because that's over budget I'm at I'm at seven I'm at 7 30 right now you say Zenfone 10 right you might
00:42:40
be able to use it oh I could probably get an M1 iPad Pro let's see I'm the one I'm actually using
00:42:47
in real life M1 iPad Pro so you're okay with no wireless charging yeah that's fine
00:42:52
um because I have to buy a wireless charger you know that's expensive good point if you spend 100 more you could
00:42:58
get a Zenfone 10. 100 more that's huge the Zenfone 9 is amazing yeah and it's
00:43:04
basically the same that's true just I don't live without wireless charging yeah and let me get an M1 iPad Pro 12.9
00:43:10
inch for 850 bucks whoa that puts me right really right at the yep or is that
00:43:16
just that's refurbished on Amazon you have 50 that's a great price no keyboard wait 150 that's fine that's fine 50.
00:43:23
you're fine you're personal wait wait wait Marquez you're eighty dollars over budget oh you're at fifteen eighty
00:43:31
okay I'm gonna go to 128 gig then you're buying an iPad instead of a laptop I think I've no keyboard makes that much
00:43:37
tougher I feel like well at home I'm not like doing crazy I'm like watching videos and like emailing and not I'm not
00:43:44
going too crazy yeah um if if I get it for 800 is that put me
00:43:50
under budget I think I'm 30 over you're 30 over but yeah no no no no no no no no no no sliding if you guys could get
00:43:57
closer to the actual number why he's figuring that out can I ask a question go for it does it have to just be like
00:44:03
at least three or only three no I would say only three only exactly what if I need more than three no accessories so
00:44:09
no pencil no pencil wait no I don't need the pencil we don't get accessories no no if it comes with the phone you're
00:44:15
buying sure or or the computer when I was my question you might get a really big
00:44:21
budget anyway all right I'm gonna I'm gonna switch to the 11 inch the 11 inch
00:44:27
iPad Pro in order to get on budget uh which means I can get a Wi-Fi Plus
00:44:33
Cellular 128 gig for 670 but how much is that plan refurbed
00:44:38
oh he just doesn't use it there's my six seven eight refurbished yeah
00:44:44
so instead of a laptop yep at home and you'd be willing to use Final Cut on that for the rest not on Final Cut at
00:44:50
home so you're at 1400 uh that's right under budget yeah I feel good about that yeah Zenfone nice headphones plug them
00:44:57
into the Zen phone and if I ever want to watch YouTube video or like email some people or do like do some category you
00:45:03
listen to music on the iPad yeah or watch a movie on the iPad I'll just play it out just on the subway full speakers
00:45:09
on the Plane full speakers I'm going Zenfone yeah I'll watch a movie uh or I'll that's a big difference yeah I'll
00:45:16
put a movie on this Zenfone all right it's fine you have a hundred dollars you could go for the Bluetooth ath m50s as
00:45:22
well how much exactly 100 bucks you have exactly 100 bucks to me I'll get uh I'll get a pair of well you can only get
00:45:28
three things oh never mind so I'm good okay I'm good 1500 we're going versatile here yeah yeah yeah I'm good with that
00:45:35
all right do you want to go next you go next can I can I change the music to something a little more dramatic sure is
00:45:41
this AI generated music no no no no bummer should I use AI music yeah type
00:45:46
in podcast game based on budgeting Tech I'll do that for the next one
00:45:53
um it takes a little bit so this is just AI generated music that was
00:45:58
I made yesterday and I have no I they're all you may get her today I make yeah yeah I made it depends you know it
00:46:04
depends how you look at it [Music]
00:46:14
I I hate this no I knew I would get this I got 500 I think our average view
00:46:20
duration just plummeted it's gonna be rough five hundo 500 all right listen
00:46:26
that is obviously a lot of money but the main thing I wanted to talk about was a gaming PC and I think that's just got
00:46:32
out the window looks like it's pubg mobile for me but um yeah okay 500. you
00:46:37
have to buy three things you have to buy three things yeah okay holy crap I'm just the first thing I'm gonna look
00:46:43
for is like a Samsung S 20 or 21. okay
00:46:48
actually yeah S21 Ultra is ultra not even Ultra I think I'm just gonna go over you can get for 350. this is gonna
00:46:56
take me a little longer than I thought I was really hoping I would get the uh what were you the bigger one I wanted to
00:47:01
buy a gaming PC but that's definitely not I can go through again
00:47:07
oh my gosh just throw 500 away pretty much that's not an endorsement
00:47:14
endorsement okay no okay look you can get a used a brand new pixel 4A for 160
00:47:19
what about uh is there like a pixel 5A for cheap the 4A is so good it is really
00:47:25
cool one of my favorite phones oh wait no pixel you have 4A 4A rocks brand new for 160 on what on eBay on
00:47:34
eBay okay no I like trust that pixel 4A bro he's got us 199 reviews five stars
00:47:41
like he bought a plus plus pixel 4 for 115 128. so foreign
00:47:55
so I guess what I need to figure out what I do want here so I want a pair of headphones I would really like wire
00:48:02
Bluetooth ones with some sort of noise canceling for when I mow the lawn wow my lawnmower costs way much of them right I
00:48:08
thought your whole budget was supposed to be silent because it's electric can't use that anymore true
00:48:14
um gotta use scissors man I really want the link buds s this is on Amazon linkbuds s for 148 that sounds legit
00:48:22
cigarette minus 262 238 what do I want though there's nothing I'm buying that's
00:48:29
gaming so you have a pixel what what is the switch
00:48:36
switch light 199 so then I think I can just get the non you're
00:48:42
gonna switch I think so but I want to play some sort of game the problem is is the link buds s all of it is 199 except
00:48:49
for the uh one random Amazon Seller which kind of feels like a scam that it's
00:48:55
26 off is it oh is it just because they're white it's on
00:49:00
oh yeah is the white okay I'm just taking that the White's cheaper there's a 150 pair of Link buds s
00:49:07
ony or a pixel 4A a pixel 4 128 gig for 115 and a switch light pixel 4 a 128 gig
00:49:14
link buds s and a switch light very nice well so you're closer to the budget than Marquez was yeah that's a percentage
00:49:20
percentage-wise that's actually pretty how much are switch lights 199 wow
00:49:25
that's good wow that's again prioritized setup yeah I was I was hoping to get the
00:49:31
like ten thousand dollar budget I don't know if there is yeah let's see what you
00:49:36
get I'm interested let's use more generated music oh God wait what is this time this prompt is podcast
00:49:44
music that would play as a stinger during a Price is Right Style game show should build suspense
00:49:52
super suspenseful when he already has it in his hand
00:50:01
I don't know about this one I don't know about this one all right
00:50:07
I got two thousand nice two thousand dollars yeah this is a big
00:50:13
baller budget over here all right let's see what are you what are your three things are you gonna prioritize a certain thing or just go like computer
00:50:18
yeah okay you should go smart watch pencil and gaming PC just kidding pencil
00:50:27
yeah the fold five and then have 100 left and use decks
00:50:33
actually yeah reasonable you need a monitor for it though I guess yeah I
00:50:39
think that so in my backpack I always carry a laptop with me because I always
00:50:45
randomly need it for like photo editing or writing or whatever so I need to get a laptop okay
00:50:50
um and the the cool thing about the like M1 series like MacBook airs and stuff is
00:50:57
that they're so powerful for being so thin they're still a little bit expensive M2 MacBook Air is that what
00:51:04
you're thinking M13 inch MacBook Air 9.99
00:51:16
it's barely over half your budget I mean that's the most important but that's easily the most important to me I think
00:51:24
that my laptop's more important than my phone so I'm going to how much is it 10.99
00:51:31
yeah for wait how much storage um yeah 256 sorry
00:51:36
oh man acor CPU GPU memory upgrade for all of the rest of you
00:51:42
seriously look at this look how much more it is it's 300 for double the
00:51:48
storage that's crazy yeah how many that's the question how many years am I living with this setup
00:51:54
only the rest of this we said yeah okay which I guess August is could do 128 gigs you should imagine you're living
00:52:00
with this forever yeah for the M1 chip with more storage how is how much is that let's see so the M1 chip starts at
00:52:07
9.99 if you want to go to 512 it is 11.99 I'm gonna do M2 because the
00:52:13
experience overall is better and I can live with the 256 gigs of storage I don't know how I can live with the 250
00:52:18
kicks six gigs of storage because like when you're not paying for cloud I already have I already have some like
00:52:24
hard drives so I can do that right this Tech how am I supposed to make
00:52:30
videos yeah that's the challenge what did you do for yourself an 11 inch
00:52:37
iPad Air he's counting videos as work so are you doing videos as personal or I'm gonna I
00:52:42
think we can count your channel as work we can yeah this is just Leisure okay we'll say
00:52:49
well okay I think we'll say okay okay cool cool okay M2 MacBook Air 256 League
00:52:54
of storage so that's 10.99 10.99 okay so I have 900 left
00:53:00
all right 901 901 oh thanks thanks Math Genius over
00:53:06
here um okay I want headphones and a phone which I know is born 900 bucks What's it
00:53:15
gonna be like you could get yeah yeah yeah that's a good point yeah
00:53:20
okay um I'm going to
00:53:25
get maybe as Zenfone 10 750. no it's not that much 700 bucks
00:53:33
it's 700 yeah 6.99 6.99 right yeah so I have
00:53:39
to 301 dollars left yep for headphones not quite enough for the like Flagship
00:53:44
headphones unless you get them used I mean you can get some nice ass headphones 202 left
00:53:51
wait really yeah it was 10.99 for the MacBook Air and 6.99 foreign
00:54:00
I can still get nice headphones for 202 are you an earbuds person or over your headphones person earbuds you can get
00:54:06
the link buds as yeah just saying I know you liked thumb also or how much are the bows ones I was
00:54:12
literally just about to ask that because I use those every day I think they're 300 though I thought they were 250.
00:54:17
would you ever buy used earbuds no I think I would buy used headphones I
00:54:22
don't think I'd buy used earbuds especially if they're leather cups on the headphones yeah wipe that off a lot
00:54:28
easier or buy new cuffs but yeah they were on sale the other day they're 250.
00:54:33
and that's onset that means I could get the Zenfone 9 in these which I would I
00:54:39
really like wireless charger Zenfone 9 was only 50 bucks less than Zenfone 10. you could also get like an iPhone is
00:54:45
exactly the price oh really yeah because I'm only I'm only 47 over budget oh okay
00:54:50
sorry about wireless charging but I think wait I can get a pixel 7 is 5.99
00:54:57
right yeah I could get a pixel 7. this is 549 on the Google oh okay sweet
00:55:05
so MacBook Air M2 uh
00:55:10
picks Bose QC earbuds two wait pixel 7 right now for me is saying 449.
00:55:17
oh even better even better I mean Google's let's just use that little store so 1098 that's 1100 plus 449 is
00:55:25
15.50 oh yeah so that that gives me 450 for
00:55:30
headphones what can I ball the hell out with told you or you could just get a 256 gig version of the pixel 7 for 549.
00:55:39
I guess or you can get four hundred dollars wait does that give me the money
00:55:44
to get the extra storage on the MacBook Air yes oh 200 right it was 300 it was
00:55:49
200 I think it was 300. oh yeah quick air yeah so how much would that make it
00:55:55
sorry 100 bucks left right no way really 100 okay I'm getting a little the
00:56:02
minimum sorry so I'm just gonna go under budget I'm doing pixel 7 M2 MacBook Air and Bose QC earbuds too
00:56:09
okay solid lineup although I don't know if I could I should run with these because the sweat would probably be bad
00:56:15
for them just don't run with those headphones it's easy yes I can run with more
00:56:22
for that price yeah I mean there's a lot of jaybirds that sound good for that price there's a lot of I'll just run
00:56:27
with them because they probably won't die by the end of the year sure all right all right cool
00:56:33
does out do so how much is seven hours how much under budget am I Adam you have 202 remaining whoa nicely done falling
00:56:41
on a budget yeah you're closer to my number than your own dang all right should we go one more time around or do
00:56:47
you want to or do you give them to these two do you want to play this game I know it so if Ellis wants to do what do you mean you know it you're like I did the
00:56:54
numbers so so what would it doesn't matter yeah pick one you think you're better than us I know I know I want them to do I have
00:57:02
better than you I know I'm interested in Alice's choices here yeah Ellis is like a Handycam from 1967. kid
00:57:10
picks Nintendo 3DS don't say that the game or software so Alice can confirm
00:57:19
twenty thousand dollars Ultra baller budget I'll take a private
00:57:24
jet 20 000. the HD 880s this is like hard to
00:57:30
spend 20 grand yeah no no it's not three no yeah but the problem is things are
00:57:36
either extremely expensive or not twenty thousand yeah no no no do it in just like thinking out
00:57:43
loud like fully specked out laptop that's six and a half right there okay right fully
00:57:49
specced out 12 inch iPad Pro that's another like 17 18 right there if not sure another two thousand okay still got
00:57:56
twelve thousand dollars yeah then get a Mac Pro two no you well if you have to have
00:58:03
headphones yeah yeah because if you get the Mac Pro you don't have a mouse and a keyboard Monitor and all that does it
00:58:09
not come with them the Mac Pro company right it does come with those things it doesn't come with the monitor like a
00:58:14
dope Mac Pro pro display xdr and like a pretty nice phone okay no headphones
00:58:22
nah for the rest of the year the Mac Pro speakers only yeah
00:58:43
really terrible mix that would be rough but wow you could spend it all right
00:58:48
I'm getting these same headphones m50x or you have twenty thousand dollars
00:58:54
yes Sony MDR 7506s how much are those like 100 bucks 150 bucks it doesn't even
00:59:00
matter I got 20 G's it's a good stuff I'm getting airpods Pro Bugatti scooter
00:59:06
and a maxed out iPhone Pro that's so under budget air pads Pro hold on
00:59:12
airpods Pro is 550 and maxed out iPhone 14 pro Max and you're just pocketing
00:59:18
about 1800 000 absolutely no you have to spend it you barely spend
00:59:24
you have to spend it even if I pimp out another computer for six and a half thousand dollars get the mavic the DJI
00:59:31
mavic 3. why would he do that for the rest of the year get the inspired spend six thousand
00:59:37
bucks on the mavic okay what's the most expensive drone
00:59:44
instead of a phone you can just fly messages to people yeah well I'm thinking phone drone PJ headphones the
00:59:51
advanced kit that shoots is 9400. yeah give me one of those yeah so
00:59:58
I'm halfway there not be inspired to oh the kit yeah the
01:00:04
fully Advanced the full kit plus iPhone plus headphones ten thousand
01:00:10
that's still like twelve hundred dollars yeah but like what is a what is going to get ten thousand because that's what I'm
01:00:16
saying the thing is I want I want headphones and I want a phone so then what is that third thing twenty thousand
01:00:22
yeah it's gonna go through like this model three why don't you just what are the Sennheiser what are those Sennheiser
01:00:28
Headphones yeah yeah but those are easy HD those so those are two
01:00:34
but that's also why I got the airpods by the diamond iPhone yeah the caviar
01:00:39
iPhone there we go how much was that sixty thousand I think oh wait never mind okay
01:00:45
by last year's caviar right yeah no I could have got a sick gaming
01:00:51
computer for that yeah I gotta get a Macbook though they can game now it's only like 6500 again
01:01:03
um yeah I don't even know what's a maxed out iPhone like the terabyte version Pro
01:01:08
1800 oh my God oh my God gives me still 12 G's 14 pro Max is 1800 maxed out why don't you
01:01:15
think about one thing that's crazy expensive while Ellis goes on his book yeah and then you gotta you gotta find
01:01:20
that real Flex bro isn't there like a Louis Vuitton Smartwatch that's like twelve thousand
01:01:25
dollars terabyte iPhone or whatever is there a gold Apple watch Ultra Terra iPhone Pro Max is 1600.
01:01:33
what did you get Alice I got four thousand why did you guys get all the high amounts and we didn't I was I was
01:01:40
kind of hoping to get something really low it's a good number make it work four thousand four thousands four thousand is
01:01:45
good because you can get a pretty good laptop yeah I can get a crazy and you can get a foldable if you wanted
01:01:50
that's the crazy thing is headphones don't get that expensive until you just go into the like Ultra Elite that like
01:01:56
come with its own like yeah yeah like plug into the wall lights dim when you start listening to
01:02:02
music yeah yeah and it gives you a massage at the same time let me look up some prices
01:02:07
here I got a lot of wiggle room you know four grand yeah but you can only do three things no I know that definitely is I just don't wiggle wiggle it falls
01:02:23
for 20 grand no way the fully specked 12-inch iPad Pro that's 2200 I would I really don't
01:02:30
want a phone you know but you kind of what if an iPad had a phone how would you get around
01:02:35
dollar iPad doesn't have cell I assume that would be part of the accessories uh but we're all we're all getting phones
01:02:42
and not counting the plan okay so then it is cellular it's like insane how important Maps there's 2400. okay I
01:02:49
think I would also get an original Sony A7 because I can get that for around a thousand
01:02:56
s yeah with the lens okay like the series one you probably ever cheaper I can probably hmm
01:03:02
could I get it Fujifilm x100v around a thousand two thousand yeah I think it matters what
01:03:09
price yeah oh no that's fine I'll do that because then you're already over there no not
01:03:14
that it's four thousand yeah I'm at four thousand so twenty it was 24 plus two is 44. oh no it is
01:03:22
foreign
01:03:36
and then I have 400 600 left wait how much does the 28 to 70. I have it listed
01:03:43
here b h used for a thousand it's a lot of money what comes with the camera oh
01:03:50
it's in the Box never mind the Lens comes with it and then with my last kind
01:03:55
of how it is with my last six hundred dollars I think I'd buy
01:04:00
my exact phone I thought you were gonna get rid of it soon well I can't get rid of it before
01:04:06
September and that's true um so for now we're bonded but till the end of the year
01:04:12
you have to use this Tech so the phone is holding is the oh yeah sorry this is an iPhone 12 mini in the mini beautiful
01:04:18
purple purple finish buy it it is at 80 battery health I have to charge it like
01:04:23
four times a day also worse 64 gigabytes of memory oh chest and slums with this
01:04:29
phone and I love it okay I got my answer the Leica Q3 if you oh yeah and there we
01:04:36
go those are my three how much is the Leica six grand I get an x2d
01:04:43
it's 10 grand though yeah no no lenses priced on the cross yeah I don't know
01:04:50
man because that doesn't have a kit lens nope nope anyway well we should get to the end which is the trivia answer and
01:04:57
then wrap it up so let's do that [Music] all right trivia answers so the score
01:05:05
Marquez with two Andrew with one David with five let's go question number one
01:05:13
what does RSS stand for as you can see I'm not writing anything down which is because I wrote The Answer down earlier
01:05:19
and I wanted you guys to know that I really did know the answer I literally have no idea service Maybe
01:05:32
[Music]
01:05:38
all right flip him and read what do you got
01:05:44
I wrote watch podcast on YouTube but also yes I wrote really slow service
01:05:52
you got the first word right right I wrote really simple syndication correct
01:05:57
why would you ever make yeah the S mean syndication it's just like the way RSS
01:06:04
works is you're just plugging into a syndicated feed that anything can look at not a lot of people whatever
01:06:10
syndicated means though at the time this was created though it was pretty common early days I'm looking up Google Trends
01:06:22
question number two I'm not I'm competitive dude all right
01:06:28
all right so what is the most expensive part of the iPhone 14 pro Max a it's
01:06:38
display B it's processor C it's cellular components or D it's
01:06:46
camera system also to everyone watching on YouTube
01:06:52
I don't know why the lights weren't working for that last round they worked fine to audio listeners they were yeah
01:06:57
for audio listeners you just watched a Flawless photoable tape you imagined it perfectly for video listeners you know
01:07:04
the truth video listeners for those listening with your eyeballs
01:07:11
technically you can do that now [Music] yeah
01:07:17
okay all right a display that's correct I I hate this I also wrote a display
01:07:24
that's correct I wrote the the mobile network thing modem I'm sorry fun fact though yeah
01:07:31
both the display and the processor are almost exactly the same price so I would
01:07:36
have accepted both answers did you have to say that and you had a 50 chance of getting it right
01:07:44
I was going purely based off of repair prices um but I don't know what the repair price
01:07:51
is for the ship because I don't think you can do that I I was hoping David could help me understand this more so
01:07:56
when I was looking at all the like data analysis things for iPhone cost of Parts
01:08:05
they list the processor and the cellular components as separate components yeah
01:08:10
but for Samsung phones they list them as the same component like okay it's
01:08:16
cellular and here's I think it's because they get both of those chips from Qualcomm so it's like one package deal
01:08:22
so Apple makes their own processors right they still use Qualcomm modems
01:08:28
yeah so they have to buy the modems from Qualcomm but Samsung makes their own modems uh well they used to when they
01:08:34
had the Qualcomm processors but now they also buy from Qualcomm but Qualcomm processors have the modem built into the
01:08:41
processor yeah like a Snapdragon whatever has it built in yeah what a great fun fact yeah
01:08:47
great place to end it you always like to learn something when you listen to slash watch the waveform podcast I feel like
01:08:53
that was even though it was chaotic at the end it was successful because we all learned something I've learned nothing
01:09:00
something today uh we'll be back next week I'm sure there'll be plenty of news
01:09:05
and plenty of new videos to watch and to react to and to talk about so until then
01:09:10
catch you guys in the next one peace waveformers produced by Adam Molina and
01:09:17
Ellis Rover and we're partnering with VOX media podcast Network and our interactive music was created by vayne Silk you
01:09:23
[Music]
01:09:39
probably too many windows open it's okay wait do you have multiple do you have multiple Arc windows open
01:09:53
some of them are even the same instances the late it just says work work Twitter
01:10:02
I have seven arcs they're Windows okay here's my reason
01:10:09
okay just so because I know that that's because people watch this podcast that's not what you're supposed to do right
01:10:15
right

Episode Highlights

  • Apple's Magic Battery Reveal
    The previously named MagSafe battery pack is now called the Magic Battery, but it still lasts only two hours.
    “If this battery is actually magic, it would last longer than two hours!”
    @ 01m 45s
    August 11, 2023
  • Google's RCS Messaging Update
    Google has turned on RCS messaging by default for all users, enhancing messaging features.
    “It's very rare that a company will auto flip on a switch that you have to opt out of.”
    @ 06m 27s
    August 11, 2023
  • TikTok Expands into Podcasts
    TikTok is now hosting podcasts, allowing users to link their RSS feeds and listen in-app.
    “It feels like polar opposites, but I actually do think it looks kind of neat.”
    @ 10m 42s
    August 11, 2023
  • Foldable Summer
    This episode dives into the exciting world of foldable devices, highlighting new releases and trends.
    “It's the summer of foldables!”
    @ 22m 49s
    August 11, 2023
  • The Flash Debate
    A humorous discussion on the relevance of phone flashes in modern photography.
    “I don't think that light is going to illuminate the stars.”
    @ 29m 27s
    August 11, 2023
  • Budgeting Tech Choices
    The team discusses their tech purchases while staying within budget constraints.
    “You're eighty dollars over budget!”
    @ 43m 23s
    August 11, 2023
  • Switching to iPad Pro
    One participant decides to switch to an 11-inch iPad Pro to stay on budget.
    “I'm gonna switch to the 11 inch iPad Pro in order to get on budget.”
    @ 44m 21s
    August 11, 2023
  • Pixel 4A Deal
    A great deal on a used Pixel 4A is highlighted during the budget discussion.
    “I can get a used brand new pixel 4A for 160.”
    @ 47m 14s
    August 11, 2023
  • Final Tech Lineup Revealed
    Participants reveal their final tech purchases, including a Pixel 7 and MacBook Air.
    “I'm doing pixel 7 M2 MacBook Air and Bose QC earbuds too!”
    @ 56m 09s
    August 11, 2023
  • Learning Through Chaos
    Even in chaos, we find success through learning.
    “It was successful because we all learned something.”
    @ 01h 08m 53s
    August 11, 2023
  • Next Week's Anticipation
    Looking forward to more news and videos next week!
    “Catch you guys in the next one, peace!”
    @ 01h 09m 10s
    August 11, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
    OnePlus and Xiaomi’s New Folding Phones
  • It's the summer of foldables!
    OnePlus and Xiaomi’s New Folding Phones
  • I don't think that light is going to illuminate the stars.
    OnePlus and Xiaomi’s New Folding Phones
  • You're eighty dollars over budget!
    OnePlus and Xiaomi’s New Folding Phones
  • I'm going to get maybe a Zenfone 10 750.
    OnePlus and Xiaomi’s New Folding Phones
  • I got my answer, the Leica Q3!
    OnePlus and Xiaomi’s New Folding Phones

Key Moments

  • Magic Battery01:45
  • Foldable Devices22:36
  • Budget Decisions43:23
  • Pixel 4A Find47:14
  • Final Lineup56:09
  • Learning Experience1:08:47
  • Next Week1:09:00
  • Peace Out1:09:10

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