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yo what's up waveform Marquez here obviously not in the normal podcast Studio yet anyway for this little remote
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intro so I am in uh California right now San Diego for an ultimate frisbee tournament it's Nationals actually so
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that's why I'm out of town a little bit early so what you're about to watch is a podcast recorded on Tuesday instead of
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the normal Wednesday and what that means is we recorded that right before the
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news dropped of the cybertruck delivery event officially happening uh it's going
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to be November 30th in Austin Texas Austin I think yeah Austin so what you're going to see is people who don't
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know if that's about to get announced but I just wanted to pop in remotely and say Told You So now there are still some
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questions we don't know number one exactly how many deliveries there will be they're going to do some sort of
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event I imagine kind of like the model 3 event but is it going to be 25 is it going to satisfy our bet of 25 before
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the end of the year I think so but we don't know and then the other is and and
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thing of does this count as a delivery if you have to go to pick it up is it a pickup or a delivery I mean it's a
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pickup but is it a pickup is it a pickup pickup sorry it's a d joke anyway we're
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going to go out and finish this tournament off hopefully over the next couple days so wish us luck pride of New York if you want to follow us USA un
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Nationals but just uh wanted to jump in real quick at the top and say yeah
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sounds about right anyway take it away
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hey what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm
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Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David this week we've got some new tech we've also got some new stories some new features
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some YouTube updates apparently 30 new features coming your way so if you're watching on YouTube some stuff showing
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up here wow but also uh new apple pencil new OnePlus open that's the name of the
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phone um and some new meta stuff that we all actually kind of like yeah which is
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pretty cool feels wrong good no I'm for good stuff to come out even if it's from companies who have done horrible things
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um but first someone has to explain this analog N64 to me because it's very hyped
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people have been talking about it at the studio and I don't know why it's so hyped so someone please explain what this is back when we had childhoods yeah
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have you heard of nostalgia I've I'm aware of a con it sells very well it does so this so
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analog made the pocket which was like a Game Boy like modernized that's my best
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bigger brighter screen you could play games off of a micro SD card so you could play ROMs on it it was like a
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pocketable but what they did was cool was you could still play your if you had your old Game Boy cartridges yeah I was
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am I Imaging that so you can put an old cartridge in the new thing and it works that's cool yeah yeah yeah so is this
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like a Nintendo 64 but the same thing so you what's ironic about this um even
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Nintendo is bad at emulating Nintendo 64 games because it's very difficult to emulate them but there's this technology
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called fpgas that's been getting very popular recently that allows you to directly like emulate it like it's
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basically emulating the hardware instead of just emulating it in code and so that's what analog is doing so people
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have had trouble making m64 emulators for like a while um or getting them to
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run at a good frame rate without any glitches cuz even Nintendo on the Nintendo switch has if you have um
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switch plus yeah the one online one you can play Nintendo 64 games but a
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lot of them like aren't really up to enough with the original um so yeah analog is now making a modernized N64
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it's very they haven't announced much they just said it's an N64 it's coming out in 2024 and it will have 4K
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resolution which feels kind of wild because if it's just the same games but
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if it's just like imagine playing like Wave Runner or Mario 64 just in 4k it's
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just like but it's still just blocks blocks yeah it's just bigger and ra
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tracing is there a price do they say any there's barely even a picture it's just like enough of the side of the console
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to know what it is um but did you ever play that N64 no I don't think I've ever
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even aine of time known anyone the greatest game of all time no I've I've never I don't think I've played an N64
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yeah unless we did one for retrotech and I'm forgetting I don't think I've ever even touched it's not retro enough to be on retro Tech I don't think I hope it's
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not if it is I'm going to be real sad it's super retro but it's not like the original game console you know fair but
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we had psychogenesis and that wasn't original Genesis and NES are around the same generation right I know is Genesis
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around N64 time I thought it was maybe it is I I literally I think it's a little before I'm trying to imagine in
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someone's I remember playing the Genesis at my cousin's but I believe it was
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pretty old at that or was older at that point and then I remember a friend getting then 64 like I think it was '96
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when the 64 came out nailed at 96 Sega released the Genesis in 89 in
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Japan Japan yeah so that's more NES territory okay um but the Nintendo 64
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was the first 64 year bit console which allowed for 3D games and that kind of
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stuff to not know that that's what I do remember from retr Tech but a ton of insanely legendary games came out Super
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Mario 64 Legendary Super Smash Bros the first one ever legendary uh earthworm
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gym earthworm gem legendary Zelda ocarine of time and Major's mask
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considered the best Zelda games of all time by me golden eye golden eye Earthworm Jim just sent me down a whole
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rabbit hole in my head that I didn't know there I did not make that up that is have you ever seen him no I've
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definitely never seen earthworm JY let's get uh let's pull up earthworm gy what was this even or was this in how do
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you describe how he looks like Marquez it's a dude it's so worm in a muscle
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suit I don't know that's right weird it's funny cuz I anchor arms I think this may have been out before N64 I feel
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like you might be right I don't even think this is who I'm thinking of does anyone remember like battle worms or
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whatever no do you remember there was like this clay Fighter game on the N64 that was like horrible yeah it was
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called clay Fighters 63 and a third and it was the most unhinged game oh no it
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had earthworm gym in it okay yeah that's exactly what with appear by earthworm it was like fighting why is this game
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$44 yeah well so okay Nostalgia yeah honestly my sister and I had this uh NHL
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hockey game that you could play hockey but you could also beat each other up NHL hits uh I think it was called like
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NHL 64 to be fair that's like 45% of hockey yeah no hey yeah yeah but you
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could like you could kick and punch while you were playing the actual hockey game and if you did it enough it would set you into this Arena where it was
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just a fighting game and then it would go back really funny it's just a boxing game inside of a hockey game that's
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pretty sick anyway how much do you think this thing is going to cost that's my if you're how much is the pocket the pocket
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is 200 or yeah $219 then that 64 is probably going to be it's probably going to be 300 I'm
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very interested in the controller too which I think that they teas the controller that I want to see do you
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know what the controller looks like Marquez it is like an iconic controller I no can you try and draw it for
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me you want attempt it's a very wild controller so I would like to and audio
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listeners we will describe what he is drawing here but it is not your average
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controller uh I'm sure you've seen it and when you see it is it the one that's kind of like this and kind of like that
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and has like I I feel like you going kind of can you put the buttons [Music]
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onh maybe one of these maybe oh there we go one of these
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you barely see anything it kind of looks like a switch Pro Controller at least it would fit on that side where the C
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buttons are or were those called C buttons back then um the C stick I don't know was not on this yes he buttons that
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looks I think that's the the SE Genesis controller like that oh whoops I I truly have no clue or the Sega Genesis console
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is shaped like that one of the two oh well Marquez Drew I drew one where the one handle was way bigger than the other
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one is that what you're you're in the right ball if you added one more handle yeah have you seen this can you describe
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this now for what you think it looks like oh it's it's three handles yeah cuz
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we have three hands obviously okay I want know that it's a pretty Infamous controller cuz I can see
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why it's kind of a terrible design can yeah it's no it's iconic it is Iconic how would you hold that CU it's
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memorable I would hold it just like that just like one hand on each side I've never held it like that you hold it with
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you grip the center one so you can move th oh if your game requires the d-pad or whatever the joystick the d-pad was
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usually like easier like item selects or stuff like that where like you could go off the controller and there was a z
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button on the back that you could hit with your oh yeah yeah there's a trigger underneath underneath are we off the rails is this I don't know what's going
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on anymore this is gamer talk no now we get to put an N64 controller in the thumbnail and get the greatest CTR
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possible Fair yeah anyway um yeah so Nostalgia exactly speaking of nostalgia
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they are also releasing another analog pocket and all the clear colors already released it and it sold out within like
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3 minutes I was say how have they not done that already that's what I pictured Every Game Boy to be cuz the first one
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took forever to come they they did extremely limited quantities and they put like a day in time that it would
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happen and then within like 2 minutes it was sold out I know that this smaller
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company but like make more you know that thing's going to sell yeah part of the
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fun is not being able to get one they've done a lot of limited ones like they did like this glow in the dark version of
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the analog pocket that's like a gray but it glows green in the dark yeah I don't
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know the the like uh Purple God man the
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purple trans clear purple translucent purple is legendary I had that Game Boy Color I
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had this Game Boy Color too that's the best well it's kind of like the default color one sort of yeah they also had
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gray and blue and per and they they had a solid purple hey guys all right sorry
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all right that I'm sure there are people reminiscing with us right now guys this is a new podcast no more old Tech this
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is new old Tech we're going new tech new apple pencil oh brand new apple pencil
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and this is is new tech here so we got to talk about what's brand new USBC Port
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new that's the only new thing on this pencil new no pressure sensitivity new
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no pressure sensitivity is new brand new yeah Engravings not there less is more
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baby not new because the first gend didn't I'm Engravings that's true yeah they made this giant chart okay so to
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catch everybody up uh Apple everyone thought that this week and by the way we are recording this on Tuesday and not
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Wednesday because Marquez is Wednesday through Friday so it could be that Apple announces a new iPad and if it does I am
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sorry no no no no no if it does Marquez is flying back and we're re-recording this episode if that happens I'll record
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a segment remotely apologizing for not knowing okay I'm I'm sold on that but
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what we do have today on Tuesday yeah so so Apple sometimes does this thing where like four 3 days in a row they'll just
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make a newsroom announcement and announce a new product in previous years it's been like a new Baseline iPad or
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maybe a new Mac Pro or something maybe not the Mac Pro I don't know today they just announced a new Apple pencil it's
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the stuff that doesn't deserve its own event yeah so it's a USBC apple pencil it's basically the new Baseline and it's
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they're making it obvious that they are transitioning everything to USBC cuz
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right now the Baseline apple pencil is lightning and only one iPad has lightning anymore right3 the $330 so
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that would leave me to believe that they are imminently going to announce a new Baseline iPad that is USBC as well
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contextually that is a perfect prediction that probably will happen but we don't know yet yeah yeah do one of
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you want to read the spec sheet and the comparative analysis versus the other Apple pencils okay it's like basically
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they took the newest second gen apple pencil and then just took some stuff out of it and gave it a lower price of $79
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that's a good way to put so it's got USB type-c and it charges via USB type-c
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yeah which you might be thinking wait a second the other one the like new apple pencil we've all had for a while charges
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via magnet on the side of the iPad this one's still attaches with a magnet but doesn't charge that way or pair or pair
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or pair that way you need a USBC cable so that's one thing they took out uh
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pressure sensitivity is another thing they took out why would they so for some reason there are people out there who
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are buying a $79 stylist for their iPad but don't care about pressure
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sensitivity I guess Apple's done the math Maybe believe thing I don't know um
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it also no longer supports double tap to change tools it's just a weird art I
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swear art this artificial gating is like my new biggest pet peeve in Tech well they might have taken Parts out of the
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pencil though it might not be artificial it's possible the last thing that took out was Engravings nice tell me that's
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artificial gating it's the same shape it's the same M it's the same pencil that's true they just well they can it's
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the supply chain right they're leaning out the supply chain which saves on money and then you can charge less I
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wonder if using the same exact supply chain over a larger volume well probably is but the lead time is higher over a
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large volume right maybe maybe logic apologist it feels to me like like
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they're just going to confuse a bunch of parents during the holidays speaking of in terms of confusing which is helping
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this the naming is very confusing between the three of these now because when I see apple first gen and that's
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the lightning I assume the second gen is going to be the one with closer features and maybe
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just the updated to USBC but no the second gen is the really nice one that has everything and then USBC is now
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actually the cheapest one out of all of them and kind of arguably the not the least amount of features wait it's
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cheaper than the lightning one yeah by $20 $79 because the lightning one has pressure sensitivity but this one has
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hover which but only on M2 iPads cuz they have hover it's okay
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Apple if you're listening call the good apple pencil apple pencil Pro yeah why
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not put Pro in this one it makes so much more I rarely advocate for adding Pro but like that actually makes a lot of
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sense it does get rid of the first generation one and make a dongle that people can buy to charge their first
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generation apple pencil I think that exists already it's one of the funniest a mail lightning to mail USBC cable did
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you see how you plug in the USBC on this new one it's like you open up the back it opens yeah and it's on like this side
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now instead yeah I thought that was kind of cool big Magic Mouse Vibes yeah uh wait but can you write it while it's
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charging you can still I really hope you can use a wall as charging it would come
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out the side but I think it would be high enough on the pencils to be okay no no physically I know one could do that
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it's would Apple let you right while it's charging really should the lightning one you can't use while it's
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charging because it's sticking out the side of your iPad yeah popsicle no use the use the
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included double uh yeah double dongle yeah yeah so get rid of the first get rid of the lightning one and and sell a
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dongle name name the USBC one just apple pencil and name the good one apple pencil Pro that's all you got to do
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you're going to confuse a lot of parents out there we're just trying to get their kids a procreate pen no I'm confused and
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we do this for a living yeah they're doing it just to confuse you Adam they dislike you it's working this definitely
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didn't deserve an event so glad they did the press release I went to the event do a compilation of like all of the Apple
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events all the Apple Newsroom press releases that don't get an event and
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like power rank them in terms of how good of an announcement they were this is like pretty middling not that great
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but there are some things that they've announced that were like kind of solid and they didn't get their own event and I thought that was fun sometimes that
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would have been crazy if they did M1 as a press release that would be crazy well you guys have any other
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thoughts on the pencil none none none nada okay we should we should talk about
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all these new YouTube features but first we should take a break and before that we should do
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[Music] trivia trivia so as always answers at the end
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yeah first question Time magazine named the N64 the machine of the year in
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1996 but what two games were originally launched with the console one point per
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game what two games were launched with the console yep
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H I think I have one there's one I really want to say and I'm pretty sure we're thinking the same one you to
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Marquez Crash Bandicoot this is notf dare this is an unfair question if you don't want to go
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off the rails on nostalgic games we should just throw to the outbreak right now because you're really I'm
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studio all right welcome back let's talk about YouTube what kind of a fun place
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yeah YouTube so we're on YouTube I don't know if you guys know a lot of you guys listen on audio only but many of you
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watch this podcast on YouTube and some of you may know I actually have my own YouTube channel uh hey we told you
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you're not allowed to plug that here I started a few years ago specific this is the podcast I just figured I think it's
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like a good overlapping audience I think people want to know about it I review Tech products the origin story of it's
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way for so we've been using YouTube for a long time and we just got like a big YouTube feature drop that's how I'd
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explain what just happened like a pixel feature drop kind of except it's all well it's all coming soon so I guess not
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actually exactly basically the same thing uh slowly rolling out but there are uh literally three dozen new
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features coming out both in design and functionality and some of them are really cool and I wanted to give some of my thoughts on some of the best stuff um
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a sort of a high level overview is like some UI stuff some feature stuff some functionality stuff just lots of quality
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quity of Life Changes quality of life that's yeah exactly I need that in my life uh one of the high level ones and
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I'm curious to hear your guys thoughts on this is there's a stable volume toggle so if you're watching some videos
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you you've heard those videos where it's just like quiet quiet quiet quiet blasted volume but you turned your volume up so you get destroyed so audio
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normalization basically it sounds like a compressor you just turn it on yes and it's funny because I wonder if this gets
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turned on automatically for videos that deserve it or if the toggle is just there after you've already gotten black bled you know so I started blasting I
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feel like it should be on automatically blasting like there should be an AI that watches that scans YouTube videos for
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comments for people who are like headphone warning and then it just toggles this automatically for those videos maybe this looks very confused
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here I'll just read what it says exactly on the YouTube blog post the YouTube official blog post
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reads uh easy on the ears we're giving you better audio control on mobile devices rolling out starting today
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stable volume will be autom automatically turned on to reduce jarring differences in volume for an overall improved watching and listening
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experience and there's a little animation showing a popup with a toggle that says stable volume so you can
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toggle it on or on on or off on or off on or on on or on automatically
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automatically on and I assume even though it doesn't say that that means
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that one video with dramatically different volumes will be
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normalized maybe that would be great what it sounds like to I would like that
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if it was like between videos each video was like the same volume because so it's
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like an account like an app toggle yeah cuz if you're like if you're like making a video that has sort of like a a slope
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in volume as part of the experience it would suck if the app automatically like normal does say jarring differences
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though so like I'm sure it could has a I would hope it has somewhat of a range but there are videos out there that just
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suck at volume the auto the last autofocus video did you watch that guy's video he did a video on the Corvette
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probably the podcast spinoff Channel yeah there's just another YouTuber I Know Who does these car videos it's
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called autofocus it's a great title for a channel you is a great title he video he usually does electrics he usually
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does all these quiet EVS but he did a video on the new Corvette ZO6 and he does the remote start in the video and
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it just blasts my headphones so I'm like dude what are you doing like I know it shoot but like
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is that how you started the video no it's like halfway in too so You' settled in you've turned the volume up a little bit and then you just get crushed I'm
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going to report that channel honestly I like that channel but I say I'll do it too yeah report every Mr Beast video
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where he starts yelling at the beginning but at least he starts right from the beginning so you don't like get used to
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one volume level and then it changes anyway so that's one of the YouTube features um another one is straight rip
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from Tik Tok I don't know if you guys have had the hold to fast forward on Tik Tok so this is an it started off iPhone
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only and now it's on Android as well wait Tik toks are like 30 seconds and people still fast forward through them there's some longer Tik toks and so
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people will hold down on the left side of the screen and it'll fast forward it it'll watch it at 2x speed so you know
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how you listen to podcast sometimes at 2x speed or David listens to every video watch every YouTube video I watch it
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insane Behavior but I'll let you I'll let it was giving me anxiety the other day you had it out same amount of information in half the time yeah twice
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as fast would you watch a movie at 2x though I watch all YouTube videos at 2x but like what if it was a really good
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video like Ping I will say and music uh yeah one of my friends made it a video
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that was an hour and 15 minutes long recently and I was watching it by myself at 2X and then I watched it with a
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friend at 1X and the experience was better at 1X for sure who would have
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thought but it depends if I'm trying to absorb information it might be even better if you watch it at half
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speed just if we're following the trend if we're following the trend you cut it
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in half pieces of data a trend or just it could be if the start of a trend the problem is if it's a 30 FPS video and
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now you're watching it at 15 FPS yeah that's tough that's tough I think you should watch it at 30 FPS anyway my
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point is on YouTube you can now hold down anywhere on the screen uh so just
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press and hold down anywhere on the player to automatically bump your playback speed to 2x once you get to the part of the video you want just let go
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it goes back to 1x just like Tik Tok great this featur is on web tablets mobile devices Mak sense I think this is
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great for less of a reason in Tik Tok but like when you get longer videos especially on mobile scrubbing is so
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hard because you can skip like five or 10 minutes really easily if it's like an hour plus long video so if you can just
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scrub through a minute or two really quickly it's way more precise in that sense yes improvements to scrubbing I'm
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glad you brought that up because one of the other ones they've improved is larger previews while you're seeking
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through a video uh I full screen now because it would be like the little window at the bottom and you'd scrub through now it's just like
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you see full screen exactly what you're scrubbing through makes a lot of sense that's
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crazy so those are some of my favorites I also there's one here called uh search
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by voice or song so it's basically like Shazam more or less the feature reads
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using AI to match the sound to the original recording this feature will rout in the next few weeks and be
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available on Android devices for now you play sing or hum a song and YouTube will
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pull it up for you pull up the music video pull up whatever's on YouTube it might just be the song or might be the
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music this but for all YouTube videos like this is cool for that but what if I'm like oh I watched this guy he was
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really funny and he like this intro is kind of like whatever and but you can't remember their name whoa you got to wait
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for Bard Bard yeah which imagine like that be sick that's an L model for sure
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like what if or people are like oh yeah I watched that video on the iPhone the guy said is he's like what's up it's MK
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hbd here and but and then it's like oh you're thinking of Marquez brownley you know what I suspect I suspect that this
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may be using parts of the same Tech that is the copyright ID system so the way it
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has like audio hashes and if you have copyrighted music in a song it can automatically identify it or if you have
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something that's really close to copyrighted music and might automatically get picked up under the same umbrella I feel like this is kind
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of leveraging the same Tech where if you're next to a radio and you hold your microphone up to it and you're like YouTube what is this song It'll be able
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to find it because it's going to hear the same audio hash and it can find that thing on YouTube original but Google has
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this already too just in Google search yeah built into the YouTube why is this
00:26:47
in YouTube and not YouTube music it probably will get B is it kind of the
00:26:52
same at this point yeah more guess who knows that's true that's the Google that's the ultimate Google question I
00:26:58
think this sounds cool if you could do it for videos that aren't music I will say if you look at this animation
00:27:04
there's a tab that says voice or song uhhuh oh so you just want someone's voice I wonder if there's like a oh so
00:27:11
you can do an impression of someone and yeah yeah that would be sick you
00:27:18
just recite like four or five minutes of the waveform podcast it's like oh that's episode 193 so if I go my diet is 15%
00:27:26
chalula do an impression of yourself yeah iess change your voice really bad that's a
00:27:32
great Point Voice or song and the song says placing or Hama s so like yeah the
00:27:38
voice do you have to try and match the voice or do you just have to like say things that they say like an opening
00:27:44
does Renee say that in his video uh let's go to what Rene's let's go to our field reporter Renee Richie Rene Richie
00:27:51
coming in from the field if you're looking for a song you can play sing or hum it and YouTube on Android will go
00:27:57
find the video for you yeah so it's unclear what that voice tab will do uh
00:28:02
or if it's anything different from singing or if it's just Acappella I don't really know but it's there voice
00:28:08
or song find stuff on YouTube we don't seem to be clear on on either of these
00:28:14
and like two of them I'm like I love this and then I read it more I was like I don't know what this is so I'm going
00:28:20
to be optimistic I'm going to introduce you to your favorite one right now Andrew the feature this is your favorite feature for sure um
00:28:29
anytime anyone in any video says the word like or subscribe oh
00:28:36
which is happening right now the buttons in the YouTube app subscribe will glow
00:28:42
like like subscribe is it is it working like I don't think this is out now
00:28:48
comment like or subscribe I'll read the I'll read the future how about I read the future I'll read the future okay so
00:28:53
we can be further confused by it I think this one's pretty this one's a little longer animations that celebrate meaningful
00:29:00
moments okay we wanted to bring more life to the video watching
00:29:06
experience so now when you're watching on web or mobile the page May react to
00:29:11
What a Creator says now when a Creator asks viers so now when a Creator asks yours to like or subscribe a visual cue
00:29:18
on those buttons will appear in sync with the video and once fans smash that
00:29:24
button it actually says that a subtle EXP expion of playful Sparkles will
00:29:29
reward them top comments also automatically rotate so you can scan the best commentary from the video wait they
00:29:36
rotate what does that mean top comments automatically rotate oh they get swapped
00:29:41
out oh okay sure I was imagining changing direction that's okay
00:29:47
they rotate in and out okay got it and for new video uploads we added a new
00:29:53
animation that updates view count and like count in real time for the first 24
00:29:58
hours to show how many other users are engaging with what they're watching that is interesting we finally get real real
00:30:06
time for 24 hours that's going to be like it depends on the video if it's a Mr Beast video yeah when there's 6
00:30:12
million views and six hours it's just going to be are they going to refresh like every second this is so interesting
00:30:18
real time CU they did the huge push like a year or two ago to just be like nothing on social blade or anything had
00:30:24
anything past the like point so it would be like 10 4 million or like 5.2k like
00:30:30
but that was just public Channel subscriber counts which is a little more
00:30:35
I guess but remember when it was this might be something people watching don't
00:30:41
remember but remember when YouTube videos all stopped at 301 views yeah
00:30:46
remember that I thought it oh it was 301 it was sometimes it was 304 sometimes it was 300 but they would always stop
00:30:52
around 300 views and that was like a that was like a pillar of YouTube culture was if you're video slammed into
00:30:58
301 views and then paused there for a while that video was popping off made you passed you blew past 300 views they
00:31:03
had to verify that they were real before they picked up the real time count again interes so I would upload no no not to
00:31:09
Humble brag but I would upload a video and it would hit 300 views and it would not change for a couple hours and then
00:31:14
it would bam it would come back and it would be at 10,000 views cuz they were cuz they were verifying that those views
00:31:19
were real and at some point I don't know what year it was but they just figured out how to verify views continuously in
00:31:26
real time and so now if you refresh the view count on a video every couple seconds even on
00:31:32
a popular enough video you'll get the updated view count but the first 24 hours we found is always lagging behind
00:31:39
so this is interesting this is true what we'll notice as creators is the real time view count in the analytics that we
00:31:46
look at on the back end from YouTube are ahead of the public facing view counter
00:31:53
and I think that that probably will still be the same I think the live updating public view cter will be slightly behind as they verify views did
00:32:00
I miss something or did it say that that will be so it will be in real time it will be in real time well I don't think
00:32:06
it'll be in real time I think it'll still be up it'll just update Without You refreshing the page I think that's
00:32:12
basically what's happening they use the word real time though right um I think it's like the the Twitter uh real time
00:32:18
like counter that like goes up every few seconds it ticks up by like 12 it'll be
00:32:24
like that maybe it won't actually real time it won't actually be in real time it's not real time it's every few
00:32:30
seconds yeah yeah so it'll be it'll be rounded and it'll be verified views but it will count upward Without You
00:32:36
refreshing the page that's pretty wild so you could be watching a video that has 200,000 views and by the time you
00:32:41
finish the video it has 202,000 views and it will say that on the page as you're watching I think that's kind of
00:32:46
cool I think they're trying to do like there's a there's this whole thing that happens on Reddit where like you're scrolling Reddit and if something has a
00:32:53
lot of upvotes you're incent it makes you feel like you should upvote it too it's like crowd mentality yeah and I
00:32:59
think they're trying to get people to watch videos that they see the view counts going up and they feel like they want to be part of the experience of
00:33:05
everyone watching at the same time like a slot machine it's the whole reason people it's the whole reason people
00:33:11
watch live content like you could watch streamed like a played back content but
00:33:16
when something's live people feel more incentivized to watch it it's happening in real time and there's not anything
00:33:21
necessarily better about it I get you want to see it happen in real time real real time not Youtube
00:33:29
Bull real time but I don't know that's like with every like weird little Phenom like when we had the eclipse it's like I
00:33:35
could have just watched that on TV later but like I was dying to see that 30 seconds yeah in real real time and if
00:33:43
you see yeah if you see that thing pinging up you be part of it also this is this is also reminding me of another
00:33:49
feature that you guys may or may not remember on YouTube oh if you if y trivia questions were about old YouTube
00:33:55
features I would crush there's another old feature back in the day and this was probably in like 2012 or 13 or something
00:34:02
like that is that back in the day yeah yeah in Tech Years Years last generation in real time
00:34:10
years it's a decade ago a while ago there was a feature where if you were signed in it would show underneath the
00:34:16
video the usernames of everyone else watching the same video at the same time
00:34:22
as you oh my god old I do not remember that
00:34:27
that's wild so on like popular videos there would just be a gigantic scrollable list of all the usernames of
00:34:33
everyone watching at the same time and I think it would even count it would say hey 600 people are watching with you but if it was just like a random obscure
00:34:39
video sometimes you'd be watching and another username would pop up and there's just two of you watching the video it's their username and you can
00:34:46
click on it and look at their profile and see where they're from and what their name is yeah this was back when YouTube had a messages and you could DM
00:34:52
people YouTube Miss connections yeah dude on Craigs List we were both watching Mr Beast video at 7:34 p.m.
00:34:59
last night man you know what I did the other day Shar I went on in my YouTube analytics and they showed the box of
00:35:05
subscribers and you could sort by reverse chronological and so I went back and found the first ever subscriber to
00:35:12
the MKBHD Channel and they haven't logged in in 10 years but I went to
00:35:17
their Channel and I tried to find who they are and it was really hard it was a fellow golfer oh and it was someone who
00:35:23
without revealing too much was a fellow Junior golfer around the same age es me when I uploaded my swing we subscrib to
00:35:29
each other and like he also has an old golf swing video on his channel from a decade ago interesting challenge
00:35:35
accepted this sounds like a long form episode God this 30 years old now it's just some
00:35:41
30-year-old dude now what would be funny is if that guy only remembers the golf swing video and has no idea that you've
00:35:49
turned into like a tech YouTuber true that would be hilarious it would be really fun to find this person to
00:35:54
interview them and be like do you still play golf because he might not even play golf he's a de YouTuber as well there
00:36:00
are YouTube videos of his golf swing online the same exact way there were of mine you have to show us this after
00:36:06
where we're not doxing anybody well I wasn't able to find much more than what I told you but yeah you have a whole
00:36:11
team that can help you find thisy true that is true all I'm saying is YouTube ads features and they are they are like
00:36:16
pillars of Internet culture for me anyway I I kind of view time through
00:36:21
YouTube changes is that weird I don't know I spent a lot of time on YouTube so probably kind of weird honestly that's a little weird yeah sorry I just gave up
00:36:28
too much can't wait till it's like your kid's 10th birthday and you're like oh yeah you were born right around the time when the Subscribe button glittered
00:36:35
anytime you said it I do view time in terms of like when
00:36:40
a certain phone launched though I just the way you guys were talking about Nostalgia about game consoles earlier is
00:36:46
the way I talk about the different colors the Subscribe button was over the years like that's see the face you're
00:36:51
making that's when I when you say the N64 is g to have a new version with this emulator I'm like remember when the
00:36:57
Subscribe button was yellow let's go and everyone said point at the yellow button and then it was gray the next year at
00:37:02
the yellow button yeah dang good times anyway anyway uh new YouTube features
00:37:08
coming to a coming to a YouTube near you um I think I feel like we should take a quick break we got a bunch of meta stuff
00:37:14
to talk about and also the OnePlus open I'm holding it right now what's the meta
00:37:20
stuff we're going to talk about like it's we're talking about talking about so it's meta stuff from
00:37:25
meta who Meta Meta stuff MH you'll see what I mean we'll get there but before
00:37:30
we get there let's do [Music]
00:37:36
trivia all right I had an N64 question but Marquez I was
00:37:42
inspired by your call to action and now I have a defunct YouTube featur both
00:37:50
three questions no this is not three questions let the first one has two points now there's four points on the
00:37:57
board four points on the board all right beep boop can I see the score real quick
00:38:02
no one two carry the one now Andrew Andrew you you have the potential to
00:38:08
make some serious damage this week potential is my middle like Chris Paul
00:38:13
hits a huge three to cut the lead to 46s who's Chris Paul never
00:38:18
mind he was way Gretzky's line mate oh God line mate do they have that in
00:38:24
hockey what is that I want last 20 seconds
00:38:30
but we should leave it just just leave it anyway in 2009 nobody questions
00:38:36
around here 2009 YouTube introduced an experimental lightweight version of
00:38:43
their site sure did what was it called I was hoping you'd ask I was hoping you would ask an
00:38:49
experimental lightweight version of YouTube the app the site the
00:38:55
service think about it and for my second question yeah sorry we're not used to
00:39:00
rhythmically this is so strange we think of the big innovation on the N64 to be
00:39:06
64-bit 3D Graphics but in 1997 the N64
00:39:12
introduced what NOW essential smartphone feature to its controllers oh I know
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00:40:13
podcast we got some Hardware to talk about this is it's that time of year it just do it doesn't stop it's October we
00:40:20
got some new hardware we've got the OnePlus open not my favorite name Terri
00:40:26
but it's a folding phone and it's a it's oneplus's first folding phone debatable if you can call it that because Oppo
00:40:32
their sister company has about four folding phones so but it's the it's the first OnePlus folding phone and I did
00:40:38
the review of it it's out already I think it's a really good folding phone and we'll get to also meta smart glasses
00:40:45
as well and maybe the quest 3 a little bit but calling it OnePlus open infers that all of their other OnePlus devices
00:40:51
were like really hard to fix or that they're closed well they are right well
00:40:57
are they closed yeah I I would argue they're open and I would argue this is closed why are they open because you can
00:41:03
see the screen and it's there you open he's right it's open for business that's what it is am I right or is David right
00:41:10
no no you're right you're godamn right I'm that is closed this is closed that's
00:41:15
closed OnePlus closed yeah but now open open up yeah but open I think it's not a
00:41:23
terrible name um you know terrible is your screen broken already yep no way
00:41:30
way baby yeah WWE so let's just give you the the high level overview so it's it's
00:41:36
oneplus's first folding phone it is a relatively normal size outside screen
00:41:41
it's a 6.3 in 1080P is ltpo outside screen with a but ltpo 2 ltpo on the
00:41:49
outside two on the outside down 10 Herz 2,800 nits Max brightness it's the new
00:41:54
brightest screen I've ever seen in a phone and it's awesome I love these bright screens we're getting that took like two weeks yeah right that was yeah
00:42:00
cuz the pixel in my pocket was the previous champ for brightest screen I've ever seen in a phone but I love find X6 Pro is 100 it's brighter than pixel
00:42:07
sorry Fair okay fact check top three good fact check top three but uh it's
00:42:12
got the alert slider it's got this huge camera bump on the back they've been doing all these like reveal the like teaser videos and giving people
00:42:18
exclusives of like looking at the phone and they all have to like blur the camera bump as if that's the design of
00:42:24
the phone we've seen the phone before but I've been using it for like 3 weeks now we've seen it the inside screen
00:42:31
7.8 in uh square-ish aspect ratio almost no crease at all I mean you can see it
00:42:37
here looking head on almost no crease yeah really really good inside screen
00:42:42
120 HZ ltpo 3.0 also 2800 nits little corner cutout for the selfie camera um
00:42:50
really really good looking screen if you ignore the dead pixels speaking of the hinge and not really being able to see
00:42:56
to the crease um our friend Michael Fisher friend of the show Mr mobble did a very good video where he went to
00:43:01
oppo's headquarters in China and did a whole breakdown of the hinge um they reduced the parts down to 69 parts from
00:43:08
like 10 and something yep and um yeah you should watch that video it's a very
00:43:14
good video just saying looking at this phone happy Birthday marquez's Dad yeah
00:43:19
wow it's my dad's birthday oop I messed something up nice happy birthday Mr brownley sorry
00:43:26
interrupted that one but just like calendar big things dad's birthday right on there that's today as we record this
00:43:32
but uh it's $1,700 yeah it is their most expensive phone ever honestly my initial take is
00:43:40
like okay wow this is a really good first gen foldable first if you can call
00:43:47
it that because this is basically the same as the Oppo Find N3 which
00:43:52
is fourth foldable I they've done flips they've done um but kind of fits between the Samsung
00:44:01
cand shape and the pixel F passport shape it's like right in between those yeah and I really like it I like the
00:44:07
flat sides I like the the alert slider I like the flat or uh the power button being the fingerprint reader yeah a lot
00:44:14
of good things about this phone yeah that being said as you noticed Andrew um yeah there's a little tiny bug siiz dot
00:44:20
on the bottom of my screen that appeared a couple days ago it hasn't grown yet but it probably eventually will
00:44:27
considering it wasn't there that's basically that's more than just like a dead pixel that's like multiple pixels
00:44:33
it looks like there's a small fly I take like swipe it away cuz I thought it was
00:44:40
like a piece of food or first did when it first showed up that's really bad it's right around the hinge uh and you
00:44:47
know I reviewed this phone I talk about what's good and what's bad about it the cameras are solid it's got this huge
00:44:54
huge yeah uh camera circle on the back um is it reminiscent of a black hole
00:45:01
lumous like a black hole or whatever they call that 11 it's is that what they
00:45:06
say they said it was like irresistible just like a black hole which I found very funny that is pretty funny it's a
00:45:13
hassleblad camera it's got a 3X telephoto it's got an ultra wide it is a
00:45:18
decent set of cameras I would say um nothing like remarkable or gamechanging but I generally found I really liked
00:45:25
using phone and my conclusion was like all right this is a really good phone but if I just end it there that doesn't
00:45:31
mean people should buy the phone it turns out a phone can be really good and still not something that most people
00:45:38
should buy because number one price 1,700 bucks for a phone number two
00:45:45
durability questionable you know not everyone's going to break every folding phone they own but that it's still no matter how many millions of tests you do
00:45:51
with the hinge and we saw everything they tried to do with Mr Mobile's video you still have like there's still some
00:45:57
risk there and then number three I found it surprising hard to convince regular
00:46:03
people that a folding phone is something they should even care about yeah Power users we love folding phones I see a lot
00:46:09
of flips out in the wild but I've only seen like three folds ever I've seen a
00:46:15
single digit number of folding phones in my life out in the wild yeah yeah um
00:46:20
interestingly if uh if you buy this phone on oneplus.com you can send in lit
00:46:25
L any phone in any condition and they will give you a $200 credit towards it
00:46:31
um fer asked in the briefing if I set my Nexus 4 on fire and send it to you in a
00:46:39
box will you still give me the $200 credit and they said yes they actually said yes yes so we were like speculating
00:46:45
on on this we were like H did they actually only need to charge like 1,500
00:46:50
for this phone but they were trying to make it look more premium because in my opinion in getting folding phones just
00:46:58
as cheap as possible like lowering the price as much as possible of folding phones is a is more important to sell
00:47:05
more folding phones than making it seem premium yeah it's kind of a psychology
00:47:10
thing when you see a price tag of $1,700 you kind of just assume a bunch
00:47:15
of things about it but that's also in the price category where I'm like I would never pay that much for a phone
00:47:21
ever you know I would also like I see what you're talking about I do think
00:47:27
getting it lower is super important but I think someone who would pay 1,500 would also pay 1,700 so like I wonder if
00:47:33
that's making a huge difference between that price range where if you could get it down to man even 1,200 is insane for
00:47:40
a phone but there are plenty of non-folding phones out there that are $1,200 and they're not even top of the L
00:47:45
the like best spec all the time so that's the thing I wonder if 15 to 17 is like if you've just gotten ready to do
00:47:53
that maybe they just want to harvest the lithium out of the phone that you send in the old ones well if it's on fire I
00:47:58
don't know if they're not requesting that you send it on fire yeah but they would still take it it's there's a
00:48:04
couple good points you guys bring up number one is this phone has to live in a lineup so it has to have a price that's alongside all the rest of the
00:48:10
phones that this company makes so in a sense the lowest you can charge is whatever your most expensive phone is so
00:48:16
if you have if you're OnePlus and you have a $900 phone like you obviously can't go below 900 for this why does
00:48:22
that have to be true though well that brings me to the other point which is if I combine all the parts of this phone it
00:48:28
does feel like it's at least a $900 phone yeah the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 the 16
00:48:34
gigs of RAM the half a terab of ufs 4.0 storage this is at least ,000 the really
00:48:39
really good 6.3 in outside ltpo screen at 2800 nits like the performance the
00:48:45
battery the 67 W fast charging all this stuff by the way no wireless charging doesn't have wireless charging it's such
00:48:50
a OnePlus thing but like if I just put together all that stuff and this 7.8 in inside screen premium leather back I'm
00:48:58
kidding sarcasm it's awful horrible fake leather it feels like it's at least a $900 phone I'll agree with that and the
00:49:05
engineering has to go into the R&D and the hinge and all that stuff remember when people used to compare phones strictly based on specs and they'd be
00:49:11
like oh but it doesn't have as high of a spec of this as this one this phone does
00:49:17
have all the highest specs 16 gigs of RAM 2800 nit display like that's at
00:49:24
least $1,000 yeah you know so I guess when you first said that I was like why
00:49:31
does a folding phone have to because like there are pros and cons of a folding phone versus a normal phone so like if we were getting to that point
00:49:38
where folding phones were similar prices to just Flag ships that would be a great
00:49:43
thing because then you're just making the choice on do I want folding or do I not want folding and not having to be
00:49:48
like oh I want folding but I don't want to spend $500 more dollars on yeah so my theory was folding phone phones are
00:49:56
going to be finally allowed to hit mainstream when they are literally just a regular phone that happens to fold
00:50:02
which means they have to also be as thin as a regular phone when they're folded up they have to be the same price as a regular phone there's a lot that goes
00:50:10
into getting them down that's happening with the flips because the flips had Samsung finally hit $1,000 with the flip
00:50:16
with Flagship specs I mean around Flagship specs and now the Razer 40 um
00:50:23
the non-ultra is a 6 $100 phone in just launched for 600 bucks and it's a flip
00:50:29
so like that's like that's like mid-range phone pricing territory you know and it's a flipping phone and also
00:50:36
like there's like a techn phantom Flip or something that's also around $600 but yeah so it seems like the flips are
00:50:41
getting down more these haven't gone down at all the first Galaxy fold launched to $1,800 they're all still
00:50:47
$1,800 exactly is that weird that is wild the first one was like we get it
00:50:52
this is a total test let's see what happens and it broke and yeah now we're on the fifth one right and it's still
00:50:59
how is that I agree I remember reviewing the first one I was like guys I know it's a thick phone I know it's got crazy
00:51:06
bezels but it folds in half like can we appreciate that this thing folds in half all the engineering and risk that went
00:51:13
into making this crazy thing and then gen two we were like all right it's a little more refined now nice yeah cool
00:51:19
good I can see the improvements the direction is positive and then gen 3 you were like all right ultra thin glass all
00:51:24
right it's even more refined and then Gen 4 was like I think it I think it's different and then Gen 5 it's like I
00:51:31
literally hold it up to the next to the old one I'm like I think the The Flash move we made it slightly flatter like
00:51:37
the this the hinge is a little bit thinner and like they're really refining little by little on that and the price
00:51:42
is just Rock Solid 1800 it's like the four and the five of the Samsung Series are almost exactly the same the three
00:51:49
they did do a b cuz the three was the like under display uh selfie camera and
00:51:54
like like where they add at all still garbage yeah so yeah it is what it is it
00:52:00
seems like the folds are all kind of hovering the pixel fold is also 1800 like they're all kind of in this area where also is it even that's the thing
00:52:07
it's like inflation is it even is it even possible for a folding phone to get down to the price of a regular phone
00:52:12
because if it ever does that means all the components of a regular phone which there are less of are now cheaper like
00:52:18
if I have a high-end folding phone which has two screens a split battery and a
00:52:23
hinge if that gets to 900 bucks then that means a high-end phone is less than 900 bucks cuz it has one screen One
00:52:31
battery and no hinge yeah but the technolog is advancing and potentially getting cheaper to manufacture like if
00:52:36
they if they created a new technology as the years go by that type of Technology
00:52:41
might get cheaper over the years right yeah I just think the best you can do is reduce the difference in price it will
00:52:47
never be the same or less yeah because it's two screens yeah and two batteries
00:52:54
yeah but the okay but you could say like the Z flip 5 which has two screens right cuz it's got the screen on the front and
00:53:00
the interior screen those are getting cheaper they're getting cheaper but if you if you tasked Samsung with their
00:53:06
same supply chain to make a phone without two screens with the same specs it would cost less right if you put the
00:53:13
same yeah almost Flagship cameras that they put in that phone if you put the same size battery and it's just a
00:53:19
regular slab phone that would be an s23 Fe right yeah so it cost less I would say compar this to a zold 5 I would buy
00:53:27
this over a zold 5 any day cuz I like the form factor better it's got better specs in general it's got the alert
00:53:32
slider it's got better software in my opinion it's got that cool little black dot on the screen got that dead pixel on
00:53:38
the inside really dope um it's not the smallest issue with I think this feels great I think it looks awesome the specs
00:53:45
obviously are cool but Charing is a bummer though it is a bummer but if I'm seeing this this early on that's a huge
00:53:52
red flag yeah the thing is though it's not on I haven't got it yet and this is reminiscent of when the pixel fold came
00:53:58
out and RAM amadeo's pixel fold broke on like day two that's the thing about but nobody else's seem to remember I had the
00:54:04
pixel fold here after like a week on the beach in Chicago and it had no problems and then I've had this for like two and
00:54:10
a half 3 weeks and babied it and I cannot believe anything has gotten under the screen like I haven't been in any weird conditions do you think
00:54:17
something's under the screen do you think that's what happened I think something I mean it's dead pixel so something to I mean this hinge though
00:54:22
looks from all the hinges that I've seen this one looks hardest to get something on the inside of Also let's do a little
00:54:28
ASMR snap oh yeah right oh nice clam shell wow how many more pixels did I
00:54:33
break doing that I've thought I just think it's weird that yeah it's it looks
00:54:39
so much better than the first gen foldables like this is a hinge that you don't think anything can get in it has
00:54:45
ipx4 water resistance if you showed this to me like 5 years ago I'd be like oh my
00:54:51
God this is incredible so they've come a long way
00:54:57
weird screen issues it's kind of justad luck SP $1,00 that happened weeks I
00:55:04
would be furious I think the question would be how will OnePlus support these phones like can you get a screen
00:55:11
replacement do you is there a warranty that will cover just the random screen brakes near the hinge that are going to happen to some people they ask you to
00:55:17
set this one on fire and ship it to them and then bucks off the next one yeah it is
00:55:23
what it is but it's out there watch the video I think it covers a lot a lot of the thoughts we have a lot of the thoughts about other folding phones I
00:55:29
think I'd say the same as you I would take this over the Samsung any day yeah but I would take the pixel fold which is
00:55:34
funny that's a conversation I was thinking about I was like the pixel fold is technically worse in every way um but
00:55:39
I like the form factor better and the UI is just so enjoyable that I would take
00:55:45
the pixel fold over this I would also Yeah Yeah Yeah by a hairen the screen is way worse on the pixel fold but I would
00:55:51
still take it I even talked about that honor magic 2 yeah I would take that
00:55:56
Hardware over Samsung's so it's all out there can't wait for Pixel fold five the
00:56:02
evolving world oh we're getting the you mean zold five no pixel fold five yes oh in like five years yeah four years four
00:56:09
years yeah I'm also excited for that happens um all right let's talk about these these glasses this the other this
00:56:16
is the other piece of Hardware we got this week these um oh nice David's got his
00:56:22
too these are the did Chim when you put them on uhhuh so these are the meta
00:56:27
smart glasses it has multiple stages of connecting to your phone it's like we're
00:56:33
on the Bluetooth connected battery's connected brain is connected brain is connected neuralink nink engaged okay
00:56:41
these ones are transition lenses which is I just started playing music oh wait they are transition I thought they were
00:56:47
just clear no check this out I thought they were just clear too I went apple picking this weekend and I put them on
00:56:52
and I thought my friends were going to be like David you don't don't wear glasses what are you doing are you being lame again and then um what actually
00:56:59
happened was they looked like this and for audio listeners they turn into regular sunglasses wow yeah they transition to
00:57:06
regular sunglasses let me explain what everyone loves transition oh yeah we don't we haven't explained what these
00:57:11
actually are so we're wearing some glasses So Meta made smart glasses in
00:57:17
collaboration with Ray bands if you've seen Ray band yeah if you've seen Ray band sunglasses they've been popular and
00:57:24
expensive been well known for a while hundreds of years then Ray band stories came along that was the first gen this
00:57:31
is the second gen from meta this is a pair of sunglasses that inside of them
00:57:36
has a camera some microphones some speakers a computer a touchpad on the
00:57:44
side and some batteries to keep it powered for a couple hours and a shutter button on top for your photos and videos
00:57:51
and it looks kind of just like a normal pair of sunglasses almost exactly like a regular pair of sunglasses like this is
00:57:57
one of their Styles and this is how this is how it would look out the box if you
00:58:02
didn't see the sort of a semi clear thing on the side you wouldn't even know that there's some tech in there and and the the cameras so this is what they
00:58:09
would look like and you could walk around take firstperson videos and do a whole bunch of computing yeah on these
00:58:17
the photo and video quality is really good by the way yeah 12 megapixel cameras so I'll say I agree the yeah that's
00:58:25
yeah I I fully I think that's the number one thing people are going to want to do with this is first person photos and videos and I think they're they're
00:58:31
surprisingly good quality they are vertical vertically oriented I guess the sensor is instag stories and stuff it
00:58:37
perfectly matches shooting on your phone in vertical makes sense I wish I could also shoot horizontal but doesn't work
00:58:42
so well just do this I thought about that while you're driving because I was like oh I could do an autofocus video and this would be my first person this
00:58:48
is the best firstperson driving camera ever made we played ping pong on it and it's really well stabilized and it's got
00:58:54
good color sorry it made a noise when I put them on suppos to yeah it scared me
00:58:59
so so that's number one is like nice first-person camera that's the number one best thing people are going to do
00:59:05
with it number two is the speakers are surprisingly good yeah they are these
00:59:12
little two slot speakers on the things that like project downward into your ears like right into your ear canal and
00:59:18
it's Bluetooth connected to my phone so if I were to play music right now Andrew's wearing them right now and I could hit play just don't get a
00:59:24
demonetized and underneath your headphones you may be able to hear the music take me high not what I'm
00:59:33
playing so the idea is without any headphones on you can actually listen to
00:59:39
music you can be on the phone you can be listening to voice prompts and things like that uh and no one would ever know
00:59:45
because you don't even have earbuds in what I was surprised about when you were trying them is despite it not being like a closed ear earbud or it's not even
00:59:53
bone conduction right it's just no so I could I like couldn't hear you listening to things but it was loud enough for you
00:59:59
to not be able to hear what I was saying yeah so i' half volume I can hear everything no one around me can hear
01:00:05
what I'm listening to at max volume everyone around me can hear it as if I'm listening to earbuds at max volume or
01:00:12
like open back headphones they're like bleeding a lot or like bone connection but I truly am like that's
01:00:18
loud never I never listen that loud so so it's got the mic it's got the earbuds that's awesome you can control the music
01:00:24
with the swipes control the volume play pause all that stuff but you know it is a computer on your face and it is
01:00:30
attached to the internet and to your phone so the last kind of interesting thing that it can do is act as a
01:00:36
computer but there is no screen so everything you're doing is through audio so the best way to do that is with an
01:00:43
audio assistant a voice assistant yeah and so you can say hey meta and ask it
01:00:48
to do things ask it to read you things and it will use the internet connection on your phone to do so it uses meta
01:00:54
llama llama their language model to to figure out what it's going to do so you can like ask it to take a picture or
01:01:01
take a video which is cool and it works very quickly which is awes can we take a video right now yeah try it say hey meta
01:01:07
hey hey meta take a video take a video oh I can see it FL oh there's a
01:01:13
little flashing light on the inside so I can tell I'm recording we're both recording this is what the podcast looks
01:01:19
like first person view yeah POV your Andrew me and Andrew and this is what
01:01:26
you look like when you when you shoot videos with your sunglasses but yeah so
01:01:31
you can do that but you can also just ask it hey whato other hey what's a fact like ask it how ask a random like Google
01:01:37
something and it'll do it you can ask it to write you a letter ask it to explain
01:01:42
something to you um I think we did also see an example of something in the keynote of like coming later it will use
01:01:49
the camera to analyze what's in front of you so you can ask it about the thing in front of you damn loud clap holy hell
01:01:57
I'm so excited about this this seems like an actually very useful thing the natural language processing that was a
01:02:02
really good clap it was a good it was a scary clap I'm just like natural language computers being able to talk to
01:02:09
a computer and not have to talk with specific keywords to make it work and then also being able to be multi
01:02:15
multimodal and an analyze stuff around you this is the type of like face warn
01:02:20
computer that we've been like dreaming about for decades yeah as long as you
01:02:25
get past the fact that Facebook constantly has a camera and a microphone was Facebook shut it all down shut I we
01:02:33
just need to put that disclaimer out there that if you're accepting this you are accepting a Facebook microphone and
01:02:38
camera on your face at all times that is a fact oh wow snuck that in there yeah
01:02:44
and we've been walking around just enjoying it not thinking a trojan horse but through Ray bands they've tried many
01:02:49
Trojan horses though you know what's the Facebook portal they've tried many troan
01:02:54
yeah that one worked for old people yeah this one's going to work for fashionable people yeah think about it I mean the
01:03:01
thing is they look enough like normal sunglasses and they cost about the same
01:03:07
amount as really nice sunglasses Ray bands aren't cheap yeah yeah they're 220 2 299 or something which is like more
01:03:13
expensive than regular Ray bands but not by a ton I went to Rayband site and sorted by most expensive there are
01:03:20
dozens and dozens and dozens of sunglasses that cost more these yeah okay I you say more than $1,000 I do
01:03:27
have to say I weirdly like the the like clear seeing some of the like processing
01:03:34
units inside of it and the speakers and stuff this is like a clear not like a nothing phone clear but like it looks
01:03:40
good translucent yeah you might say yeah it looks really good it's lightweight um
01:03:46
here's my one gripe I have about them and maybe I want to make sure this is correct when you're recording it's just
01:03:53
this light that goes on right yep that should be a red light a blinking red
01:03:58
light because the whole thing should be if this is a privacy issue of being
01:04:04
worried that people around you are going to be recording you a white light is not enough to warn somebody around you that
01:04:11
like this is potentially a recording video I know that's why they put it there to be like to get ahead of the
01:04:18
like well are there privacy concerns are you potentially being filmed all the time you guys were wearing these before
01:04:23
and had the white light on and I was just like I don't know what that necessarily means it's doing I think
01:04:29
that means it's recording but didn't the old ones have a red light or am I mistaken on that I don't remember I don't remember I'd be curious maybe not
01:04:36
I very well might be making that up it should 100% be a blinking red light so even a solid red light if you walk by
01:04:43
you might just be like why is there like a glowing thing on that guy's classes but blinking red makes me think like that person's taking video of me right
01:04:49
now and if I don't like that I can leave right I don't know that feels like way
01:04:55
too subtle not enough of a a real like warning to be honest I've been around
01:05:01
people and actually mostly David recording and I see I don't even see the
01:05:07
white light and I realized later that it was on so it is a very subtle thing it's too subtle so when I was Upstate um with
01:05:14
my friends I was I took a recording of my friend who was uh and I was at oh you
01:05:19
can't hear it because it's connected to the headphones but I was trying to I was trying to make it obvious I was
01:05:25
recording so I was like what do you think of the apples how much uh I what scale of what
01:05:32
a scale of he was really confused why I was asking him these questions the good ones they're great yeah he like why are
01:05:38
you asking he had no idea why I was asking him these questions and then I I was like I'm recording you right now and
01:05:43
he's like what so even though there's a light on he didn't notice yeah it's not enough of a light blinking red light
01:05:49
100% um it's fascinating I don't like that fascinating so now that the are out
01:05:54
and they're going to be out in the real world who knows how many people are going to buy these and use these and what they'll use them for but the video
01:06:01
that I chose to make was sort of combining this with the Oculus the The
01:06:06
Meta Quest 3 mhm because they seem like they're on opposite ends of the
01:06:13
technology limit spectrum and and aiming at the other side at each other so what
01:06:19
I mean by that is this is as much technology as we can fit in glasses
01:06:24
without them looking like more than glasses the second we want to put more Tech in them the only limiting factor is
01:06:31
can we put that Tech in there and it'll still look like regular glasses bigger battery more powerful computer extra
01:06:37
features whatever will do it as long as it still looks like normal glasses and this is The Benchmark and they will keep
01:06:43
adding stuff more and more and more until it's a crazy amazing virtual computer on your face I would say we've
01:06:48
we've seen smart sunglasses before mostly just speakers in them um and the like
01:06:54
what are these called This is ambient stocks what are these what are the ear things stocks stem stem stocks the part
01:07:01
that goes behind your ear are usually really thick and really obvious these are thick I can't imagine it being any
01:07:08
bigger than this I'm okay with this and it's it's since it's so lightweight it's okay but like it has to fit into this
01:07:14
form factor if it gets any bigger than this you've lost it as a smart sunglasses I so now think of that this
01:07:19
is the glasses all we're trying to do is add more and more and more to this par glasses without making it more than
01:07:25
glasses the goal is to have glasses that have amazing Computing yeah now the other side VR like the quest headset
01:07:34
their goal with that is like all right we have this whole big bulbous thing on your head head and we've put in all that
01:07:40
we want to we have pass through cameras we have sensors we have controllers we have all this stuff and the goal of
01:07:46
those is to reduce them in size over and over and over so that we keep all the same functionality but shrink them down
01:07:54
more and more until it's just a tiny little headset and then it's just a little visor and then eventually it's just a pair of glasses yeah the same
01:08:01
goal of having all of the Computing a pair of glasses especially because the
01:08:07
meta Quest 3 is like a big pivot towards mixed reality first exactly U virtual
01:08:12
reality second and the thing about mixed reality is it kind of feels potentially like a stepping stone
01:08:19
on the way to glasses that can project in Your Vision with arvr don't know if that's like really how the tech will
01:08:25
work in the future but the idea behind pass through and mixed reality is it's your world with virtual elements in it
01:08:32
and we're going to try to get this Oculus Quest thing I keep saying Oculus we're going to get the quest thing
01:08:37
smaller and smaller and smaller until it's just a normal pair of glasses your world with virtual elements
01:08:44
and this is doing the same thing normal pair of glasses adding more and more text so that's my that's my theory is
01:08:50
they're like they're going to just race to the middle in whichever hits first wins and the other one will just turn
01:08:57
into that and that'll be the what's it's like when two stars or black holes start
01:09:02
like rotating around each other closer and closer until they become a super massive black hole Yeah Yeah sick I love
01:09:09
space references yeah yeah is that what happens spinning around like the new when they Collide yeah so black holes
01:09:15
that Collide become super massive black but one of them wins right no they merge well cuz if they spin one of them it's
01:09:22
like one of them has to absorb the other they're roughly the same size the slightly bigger one or it depends on the angle the bigger one has more gravity
01:09:28
but it's it still has an infinite amount of mass there are different levels of
01:09:33
infinite amounts of mass true true true perceivably large we're not entirely sure super we've watched it we've
01:09:41
watched black we have watched that black holes Collide and become super massive but because David is wearing glasses so
01:09:47
i' I'd listen to him on this that's fair he does look smart at the moment yeah
01:09:52
yeah I think that's that's my theory and there's a there's a photo of someone who took all the parts off of a quest 3
01:09:58
until it was just like the the computer SL screens and it's not that big yeah so
01:10:05
like it's not that much bigger than these it's it's kind of like goggles yeah I guess projecting onto this into
01:10:10
the lenses will be the biggest I mean or they could go the the
01:10:16
Google Glass rip so many freaking years ago route and just be like little
01:10:21
display in the corner you could put a projector on your body somewhere
01:10:27
too trivia all right oh we need our boards all right so quick update on the score
01:10:34
Marquez with 11 Andrew with two three carry the
01:10:40
one seven David with 10 question one I
01:10:46
think I might just set this one out what two games originally launched with the N64 never mind this doesn't work give Ro
01:10:54
Marcus Wii Sports N64 this is a nice Need for
01:11:02
Speed no
01:11:07
comment I'm just going to make up two random I forget if it had this one I can't yeah okay it's between these two I
01:11:16
think it must have been an NHL Blitz I oh there's this other game
01:11:22
that's a wild old K that I kind of think oh I can't change it can I flip him and
01:11:28
read boys what did you write Mario Mario's mansion that's wrong on so many
01:11:34
levels what did you write I wrote acarine of time oh wow Pokemon Snap wow
01:11:42
nope I wrote Mario 64 oh wow I'm a how you not post how did you that's what I thought we were and I
01:11:49
wrote Wave Runner I think it's Pokemon wunner was one of the ones that was
01:11:55
announced but it was delayed at the time of launch is it also called Wave Runner 64 it's also called Wave Race we've
01:12:02
raced Pokemon Stadium also a launch game no wait is it Glover is there's a game called Glover
01:12:09
what no what does that mean don't Google that yeah what do you mean no you're a
01:12:15
glove yeah oh I do remember that game that's you're just a glove and like imagine your fingers as arms and feet
01:12:22
and you roll around on ball wait can I tell you the answers first yes so it was Super Mario 64 the other one you guys
01:12:28
missed was pilot Wings 64 I know what that is they have yeah it's a flying what's your theoretical oh man my
01:12:35
theoretical um okay imagine how creative people would be if we all suddenly were
01:12:41
able to see an additional color okay you have that in your head now okay that's
01:12:48
how creative these mother were when they discovered 64 bits am I right
01:12:54
you can be a [Music]
01:13:00
glove question to
01:13:05
incredible you know be a CL be a glove equals newc I'm just like that's a game
01:13:12
we don't do that anymore we should really do that true have like crazy games yeah I don't know there's like a
01:13:18
dinosaur sword fighting G came out we got 64 there's some cool GL games
01:13:24
B but how many of them are glove themed we're just going to discover unlock our
01:13:29
creativity yeah new color new dimension new glove in 2009 YouTube introduced an
01:13:36
experimental lightweight version of their s you wrote it down already what was it
01:13:44
[Music] called for bonus points name every old
01:13:50
color of the Subscribe button you YouTube
01:13:57
OIC name the top three most liked YouTube videos of all
01:14:02
time going to the zoo are you just making up your own trivia questions now okay got it now what's the most disliked
01:14:09
I know one of them for YouTube's lightweight player which was called who wants to read first Marquez probably got
01:14:16
it right so I wrote YouTube go oh I wrote YouTube like the number two
01:14:24
like T like tube oh that looks like you Lube to me anyway you YouTube light the
01:14:33
answer was YouTube feather that's terrible y'all YouTube tell to make
01:14:40
better namea looks straight to Bernie right now YouTube go is the more recent
01:14:48
version of that their light version but not the first one it twice
01:14:54
they did it twice they did it wait they did it twice wait what was the second one the second
01:15:01
go the one Marquez said the second version Oh my God from August 2022
01:15:07
YouTube go Marquez like it was that reason ago I don't remember that at all it was it it left in August 2022 left
01:15:13
what they killed it yeah they killed it where was it before that what huh okay I don't know what it
01:15:21
was I've never heard of YouTube goat and it was live till 2022 apparently they announced it in 2016 and 2022 for people
01:15:29
with like way worse internet connections or like limited data you would download
01:15:34
the separate YouTube Go app and it would have like basically all the same videos but like super super low bit rate
01:15:41
streaming oh H I thought that's I uh I air dropped you the original Google blog
01:15:47
post oh just rubbing salt in the wound now oh sorry bro I didn't mean it like that wow all right question number two
01:15:56
we love it here we think of the big innovation of the N64 to be 64bit 3D
01:16:02
Graphics but in 1997 the N64 introduced what NOW essential smartphone feature
01:16:11
smartphone feature to its
01:16:16
[Music] controllers oh that's not right at all J if I'm right I have a slight issue with
01:16:24
this the way this question is worded okay come at me bro if you're right it
01:16:30
doesn't matter that's not it's not wireless controllers right it was yeah
01:16:36
oh I don't think they're telling the truth they definitely there are no wireless controllers as far as I know I
01:16:43
don't have an answer all right all right all right what do we got here I'll do this cuz it's haptics yeah I wrote
01:16:49
vibration motor haptics so they didn't add it to the controll it was an access it was an accessory yeah they added it
01:16:56
the next a year after it came out it didn't get added to the controller though it was an accessory like you couldn't buy a controller with haptics
01:17:03
you bought a controller and there's a thing that plugged into the back you're adding you just said add you're meting
01:17:09
it say oh okay I guess I got it right who cares oh right sorry Marquez put
01:17:15
called The Rumble you put encryption and Bluetooth
01:17:22
encryption so so that's been it thanks for uh for
01:17:29
listening to us talk about Hardware software new gadgets new features um I
01:17:35
know you guys have been waiting for this for a while so I'm excited to announce that next week's episode will be entirely YouTube history trivia that's
01:17:41
super exciting for me and for everyone else involved super pumped about that minus five points um but uh until the
01:17:48
next one next week catch you later peace wa for is produced by Adam meina and Ellis Ren we're partner with VOX media
01:17:54
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01:18:14
s what about OnePlus open yeah we're going to do that after oh yeah is this
01:18:20
skinned no no that's the default great reaction did we get that on camera
01:18:25
that's the first time you've seen that leather version yeah I don't like it
01:18:32
dang I'm not the biggest fake leather on the back of a phone person but David had the glass one and it is slightly thinner
01:18:39
than this so everything protrudes more
