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[Music] welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts i'm
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marquez and i'm andrew just kidding i'm andrew i'm marquez yeah there we go in today's
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episode we have tesla hitting a new milestone while simultaneously taking a step backwards we're gonna bring david on later uh kind of have our final
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thoughts on pixel six but first you had a really busy weekend uh yeah i was so every my entire
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timeline right now is where are the videos where is the macbook pro review where is the pixel six review where is
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the airpad airpods video um i've been actually with the last video i published
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that from the hotel yeah at uh nationals we're uh we're representing new york for
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club ultimate frisbees national championships in san diego for the past four days um it was a good time we it was it's
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been a crazy year and yeah not a lot of normal things about this season but it
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was uh it ended with us losing by one point in the finals to raleigh so we
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came in second place um extremely impressive like uh yes lost in
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finals but i don't think people understand how many like this nationals is the top 16 teams in the country 16 or 20
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these 16 16. i mean there are hundreds and hundreds of teams out there every
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year you have to go through sectionals and you have to go through regionals then you get to nationals something i never did in my ultimate career and now
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you have been to finals twice it's wildly impressive yeah we lost in semifinals in 2019 and then we lost in
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finals on universe point so by one point to raleigh so congrats to raleigh some
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of you who might have followed the audl pro season might know we also lost to raleigh in the finals in the pro league
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as well which is incredible for raleigh but yeah for new york great for great for rally bad for new york good for
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noah's all bad for isaac saul there's any ultimate listeners out here they're brothers that are good friends
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of ours but we pl we played a good a good tournament we were technically the nines that is really impressive but
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seas were funny because seeds almost meant nothing the four seed ended up coming in last place so it was uh it was
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all over the map ultimate seedings had never been great it was a crazy year but i'm sure
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i mean it kind of sucks that it's in the middle of the busiest segment but it also is probably nice to just have four days to focus on that and kind of yes uh
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take a break so that's where the video that's why the videos weren't right on time because i was out in a field
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all right so we want to do a few tech headlines first right yeah we can start off with macbook pro i'm actually if
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you're watching the video version i am now sitting with the new macbook pro in front of me i am testing both the 14
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inch m1 pro and a 16 inch m1 max macbook pro
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so you're you're testing the 14 and the 16 which one i'm assuming you brought the 14 with you
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to travel uh yeah yeah so i actually started testing the 14 when i was out there but that was just like for regular
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everyday stuff which this is massively overkill for i'm back in the studio now i can't wait
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to start i'm going to be trying to edit a video on this for the first time in a while i haven't edited a video on a laptop
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on the 16. okay okay so the 16-inch that we're testing is fully maxed out it's got the the highest end chip with the
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most gpu cores with all of the ram and everything and uh that's what i'm gonna give a shot but i
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took the 14 with me it's been great i think it i it did everything just as well as the m1
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13-inch macbook pro did which is to say web browsing answering emails the couple of things i got the chance to do out
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there but i'm gonna really put it through its paces but my initial impressions this thing is nice i mean just looking at it i love the black
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keyboard rather than this garbage it is nice love the keyboard love the touch id the real buttons are
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back no touch bar anymore out of here uh the screen is much nicer and very bright
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battery life about the same magsafe can confirm pretty fast charging okay love
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that i haven't had to use the ports yet but i love that there's an sd card slot so if i were to just like take some
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photos and you know toss my pixelmator in here i'd have that with me how nice is it to not have to dig for
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your sd card reader like that inevitably gets lost at the bottom of your bag whenever you travel it's so nice yeah it
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is really nice um the notch is just kind of sitting there i feel like i'm over it at this point it's just cool it's just
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in the screen speaking of notch quinn from snazzy labs had a pretty fantastic video
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yesterday i think yeah i think even just last podcast i was saying you are never going to fill the menu bar and
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notifications or whatever up on a laptop uh we'll see i've been proven wrong very quickly um quinn did have that happen
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i can't even believe this is real so oh my gosh a lot of people have been asking and wondering with the notch in the way
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now what happens if your app menus go too far to the right or your status menus go too far to the left do they
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like you know get smaller or do they jump to the other side or are they scrollable the answer is freaking
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nothing if i turn on istat menus look at that there is stuff behind the menu bar that
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i can't see yeah so the top of the screen where the
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notch is the notch cuts into the menu bar yeah so that's where your like file edit view all those menus are and on the
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other side that's where your time notifications wi-fi all those things are if you use a program with enough menu
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bar items you can actually fill up the menu bar and then the question would be okay what happens does it skip to the
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other side of the notch and quinn had a couple i think he was using
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resolve or something like that and he had istat menus there's always a bunch of stuff on the left eye stat magnus is a bunch of stuff
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on the right and they collided in the middle and there was just stuff hidden by the notch
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which is really strange and uh didn't realize that was gonna be a problem i i don't have that many apps that have that
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many menu bar items but if you do that's something to consider resolve is a pro app yeah and like what's funny is
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it works totally normal it just pretends the notch isn't there so the menu will pop down under it so ultimately it's not
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really restricting you unless you know you're new to that program and some i'm just waiting for someone to like look up
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a tutorial be like go to this menu uh category and now oh i don't have that
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yeah oh it's behind the number it's hidden behind the notch but you can still click it you just won't yeah it's still there i'm sure people will find
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out but that's super weird pretty funny feels like an oversight but i guess ultimately what
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else would they do my only like resolve to it would maybe be um if
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there are too many you add like a drop down arrow and then you know you drop a menu down to now get into the extra
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menu selections that would be there i think it was between that and making it scrollable horizontally which would be
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kind of maybe less intuitive than we think i think we'd know to scroll but i think a drop down is easier to see would be
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easier i mean i guess you have the side scroll on a track pad or more reason to buy a uh magic mouse which is terrible
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stopped by a magic mouse uh but yeah that i did see quinn's video that you know other than that i think
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this laptop's been pretty great but again my conclusion on it hasn't been determined yet it will come
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down to how well the pro workflow works m1 cruised through all of my casual stuff
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like pixelmator like of course web browsing slack my to-do list all that
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like basic stuff any laptop can do so i'm looking forward to notching it up pun intended and uh getting into the
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maxed out inch and throwing 8k red raw and transcoding at it and seeing seeing what it can handle so it'll be
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interesting too because like renee's put some videos a lot of people put videos out on this already um and
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some of the times they're getting while you know they're in prores a lot of the the stuff they're editing and doing time
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like export examples of and they're destroying the times so prores i would
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expect to do exactly an order of magnitude better because there is a specific section of the m1 max and m1
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pro chip dedicated to prores processing and transcoding and all that so if you
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have a prores workflow i don't even have to test it you should get these laptops this laptop will do incredible work with
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prores but that's the thing like okay it's it's built for that and has a section for that but what about other
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things like of course shared memory and faster bandwidth and all that stuff is going to have a major performance
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increase but it won't be the same as dedicating a piece of it like if i had a an afterburner card that would
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be dedicated to transcoding uh redcode raw that would be a totally different story
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so we'll see what the new performance stuff does but yeah of course it'll crush with prores happy about that
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um all right next up we have i feel like i have to talk about facebook a little bit here they've
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literally been in the news every day for the last like two weeks it seems like aren't they gonna change their name yeah
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that's kind of what i want to get to um before that the the main thing we're seeing is these whistleblower papers um
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i don't really want to get much into it because i don't feel like um uh well enough first in what's going on but
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there are a million resources out there i highly suggest reading some of them um what i did read was super interesting
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but yeah we and what feels like kind of a coincidence because of all the stuff coming out i'm sure for other reasons as
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well facebook wants to change their name but less of you know changing facebook.com more of changing
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the full-blown company name kind of similar to what uh google google like went under alphabet when they started
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doing more ventures than just being a search engine i see something like that so facebook would be one of the
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companies under a parent company and that parent company would also have instagram and oculus and stuff like that yeah yeah what's happening what stuff
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like that um it like i said it it makes sense um first
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of all because it's when you think of facebook you think of the social media the terrible social media
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i think most of us come and if you are you know oculus is fantastic whatsapp is great
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instagram's pretty great too they've had a lot of stuff in the news lately as well but um if i were any of those i
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would never want to be associated with facebook and try and break off of that as much as possible
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yeah i think i was thinking of like the car analogy where when you buy like a genesis for example in the u.s those are
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like somewhat popular luxury cars but they're made by hyundai and you would never spend that much money on a hyundai
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yeah but hyundai has a sub brand called genesis that is completely separate from it you never see the word hyundai in any
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of their cars but that allows them to have a different reputation uh kind of the same thing with alphabet
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like it's a parent company that holds google and they run google and i'm sure they do a bunch of other stuff but that
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makes sense like instagram doesn't it say a facebook app when you log in it does i
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yeah that's a good point will that change to what they don't have one name yet by the time this episode comes out it might be out i think they have an
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event tomorrow where they might announce it okay um some people are speculating horizon because they have this new
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i don't want to call it a game but like new vr metaverse experience called
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horizon world so people are thinking like that's horizon is going to they zuckerberg has mentioned it really wants
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to focus on the metaverse and they're obviously doing a lot of ar vr stuff um and
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so horizon seems to be the front-running rumor but there's not much about it quite yet it would be
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instagram a horizon app interesting instagram instagram or horizon app i mean i would much prefer that over i'm sure a
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lot of like younger people who really enjoy instagram would love to not have it say facebook and
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have it correlate with facebook anymore for however much that's worth you still know it's a facebook company though yeah
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ultimately i guess but so yeah that's pretty much it um i
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think it's the right move and in the future people will forget but i don't think anyone will ever really forget until like zucker
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no one will ever forget it's just always going to be correlated with what i consider just like the swamp of the
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internet i despise facebook how much facebook's reputation has
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sort of tanked over the years it's especially in the last probably five to seven years like it had it's it
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was already the sort of older social media yeah and that's why facebook ended up like literally buying instagram is
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could because people exactly went to instagram and never even made a facebook account after a certain age so you're like all right how are we going to get
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these new people and all of their data we'll buy instagram and that'll keep us on the forefront but like facebook
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hasn't really done anything to shift itself back into like do you think 10 year olds are like itching to make a facebook account no no they're on tick
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tock if anything and then instagram and then facebook maybe someday so that's the
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reputation now and that's what changes but it's the thing is like they've gone further than just being the old person
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app like kind of how we see yahoo or hotmail email addresses like it just seems but uh but you know those yahoo
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email address didn't do anything wrong it just became synonymous with like the kind of boomer mentality uh whereas
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facebook is now not just for old people but essentially destroying democracy so
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get rid of that aol.com yes you cringe sometimes when you see an aol.com email address
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yeah there's still some out there though i do do you like remember those days of how long it took you to get onto the
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internet it's just just barely before my time but i've heard i've heard the sound it was brutal i like
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imagine trying to like load david into this podcast how long do you think that would take that would take a while probably about like
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as long as an ad break yeah probably all right let's let's do it this episode of waveform is brought to you by peloton if
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o-n-e-p-e-l-o-t-o-n.com right welcome back we've brought uh david onto the podcast and we're going to talk pixel
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6. slowly loaded slowly loaded him in with our good old-fashioned internet here actually my
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legs are still loading but um okay so we we've used these phones so i've mostly
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been testing the pixel 6 pro david's been uh rocking the what's the color of
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that this is kind of coral the kind of coral kind of rng yeah pixel 6. every time i look at it it looks like a
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different color right now you've got the laptop the rose gold laptop yeah yeah it kinda looks like it's the rose gold it
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does look the same when i look at the camera monitor but when you look at it next to an orange thing suddenly it looks orange and you wouldn't believe me
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until you saw it in the video even the renders online look different than it looks in real life like yeah this color is an enigma it's like the dress yeah
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exactly yeah blue or gold blue or gold we try our best in the video but the review is up now it's a review of both
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phones in one so there's that um but we wanted to talk a little more about some of the more nuanced stuff i've always
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gotten like the comment that i spend i spend too much time on the camera in these phone videos it's just a phone why
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are you talking about the camera so much but this is the pixel yeah so we have a lot to say about the cameras because
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they're sort of known for the cameras but big old deal let's uh let's talk pixel for a bit so
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do you have any other like burning thoughts that didn't get into the review i mean you've used this
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90 hertz flat 1080p screen for a bit how are you feeling about that 5.99 yeah
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i mean i think the 599 is makes this phone one of the best deals as an
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overall package on android right now yeah um i agree a lot of people would probably say like oh there's you know
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cheaper phones that are have a faster geekbench score or something or have like a 120 hertz display but like
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considering all of the smarts that you only get on pixel as an overall package 5.99 isn't a price that i don't think
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any of us were expecting we guessed in slack and i guessed 6.99 8.99 but right
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5.99 is just like the cherry on top yeah i remember before we got briefed on the prices we were told all about these
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phones and tensor and these new cameras and the phones share a lot of parts yeah and then we were told one of them will
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be mid-range and one of them will be flagship and with just that information i think i was guessing 799 999
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just like that's what i think of when i think of mid-range maybe i could be 699 or 750
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like the baseline iphone but that's what i was thinking yeah um so when we got to 5.99 8.99 i was like okay
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8.99 is pretty premium but 5.99 for the pixel with that same chip it's the same primary camera yeah the same software
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like that's a really good deal of a phone same storage 128 and even the design i'll be honest i
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i would almost prefer yeah the standard pixel so the they've curved the screen over the edges on the six pro just a
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little bit and it's all right it shrinks those bezels a little bit um but it's got these glossy sides
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they're both aluminum sides but this is much more fingerprint prone than the matte sides on the six so i actually i
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would rather have that build this mat is not quite the matte that you got on the pixel four if
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you have a pixel 4 or pixel 4 xl that's a nicer matte in my opinion yeah this one's definitely like aluminum with like
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a matte texture but it's not the same thing yeah um my theory on the pricing with pixel 6 and pixel 6 pro means 5.99
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um you obviously get the 120 hertz display over 90 you get the telephoto 4x telephoto camera over the no telephoto
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camera at all you get the wider angle front facing camera with the higher resolution it's 11 megapixels over eight
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um but i think everyone was kind of just like the penultimate question for all of this has just been like is that 300
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worth of stuff and i have this theory that actually that extra 100 right because maybe they could charge an extra
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200 for the pro my theory is the millimeter wave because i really cuz
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verizon and other telecom providers often charge a lot more like the oneplus
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8 i remember when that came out the uw version on verizon which stands for ultra wide band
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was 100 more than the regular one right and i i don't you know
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they're probably just trying to make up for the money that they put into the infrastructure and that's this is how they're trying to make it up
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but for people that don't know the pixel 6 has 5g low band and mid band but it doesn't have millimeter wave right
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whereas the pro has millimeter weight millimeter weight by default there are some carrier
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effects of the pixel six with millimeter ways we're still trying to figure it out the verizon and the 18 t ones are
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100 140 140 more for this that like almost no longer becomes a deal but
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like this is yeah yeah it's it's wild so well that matches with your theory though perfectly yeah 100 verizon is
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costs or charging one hundred dollars more how 18d is charging another 40 on top of that the funny thing is verizon
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is charging another hundred dollars on top of the hundred dollars that i think was already put into
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you know making oh wait no no you're right i'm saying right because they added if they added it to this yeah yeah so
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yeah that's i mean yeah that sounds but i would say that like for most people like
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the funny thing is like a lot of android enthusiasts are going to want to get the pro obviously yeah that's why they made
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it yeah because i have this theory that they need to pixels need to be pro and not pro at the
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same time all of the google assistant features in every pixel and the reason that i love the 4a
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so much is that all the assistant features are helpful in a way that you don't need to interact with your phone
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physically as much you've got now playing you've got hold for me like all these things that make it so like it just automatically does
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things google assistant google voice um well not google is google assistant but
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the ant the android enthusiast community are the people that buy pixels in the first place so then google has bounced
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back back and forth over and over again on whether it wants the pixel be premium or affordable or premiere affordable and
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it still hasn't gained market share on either of those so now it's just like let's do both sure and i think that's a really good move yeah so we've got
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there's a couple really there's some standout things about the phone that we can dive into a little more watch the
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video review if you haven't already it's like 20 minutes long but let's talk about a couple things first of all
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should we just do camera right off the bat i know david has a lot of i guess
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yeah okay um my general overall take that we can pick apart is
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they are over processing a bit and my you know you look at a lot of the photos
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and it takes a 10 out of 10 photo sometimes and it takes weirdly a below average like 7 out of 10
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photo other times and i feel like i can see i can see the camera like with its
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potential it's a 50 megapixel huge sensor taking in way more light i can see that potential in a lot of the shots
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but then the over processing and over hdr look that i get from it
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uh makes it look worse than it should so in a lot of like totally normal
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average looking scenarios it'll it'll start peeling in like highlights and shadows that don't need to be pulled in
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where in like the tough situation like out the windshield of my car at night
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with the ultra wide wall moving it'll be an incredible shot and i'm like wow this is this is an incredible camera and
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that's the 10 out of 10. yeah but then a 7 out of 10 is like the normal shot where it over hdr stuff yeah so
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i'm i'm thinking it can get better with software updates like i've seen really good shots in a lot of situations where
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a lot of phones can't compare and so that makes me really like this camera but it's gonna it's gonna need a little bit
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of tweaking i think yeah okay so uh the point of computational photography
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is to get around physical boundaries to cheat physics to and in in previous devices smartphones
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have had the some of the smallest sensors out of any camera right we kind of moved from these large format cameras
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down to this and then we kept getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smartphone cameras have traditionally been the smallest uh one of the earliest
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examples of computational photography portrait mode right that's a great example it's grabbing the edges of a
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thing and creating a foreground and a background and over time they tried to create more than just a foreground and a
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background they tried to create more depth levels in order to try to emulate the way that lenses actually work
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um that was all a stop gap until we got to bigger sensors and
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smartphones and i think that that is like one of the first examples the other examples are like hdr and that kind of
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stuff and those are the things that i think are becoming a problem now that smartphone sensors are getting so big
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capturing so much light and one of the things that a big sensor does is give you
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natural depth of field and it also gives you more light capture yeah sometimes too much depth of field right right yeah
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like cringy and like a little bit like two wide open right we saw this on the s20 ultra and i think this is having a
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similar first generation problem but not quite as bad yeah yeah there's also two software features that they added in uh
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the camera modes that are also both software tricks to simulate things you do with hardware so you know that like
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uh action pan shot that you get where if like a car is driving by and you get your shutter speed just right and you
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turn the camera fast enough you get the sharp subject and the blurred background you can in the pixel's action pan mode
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hold still let an object pass through the frame take the shot and it'll blur the background in the direction that the
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object is moving to create that effect so it's again a software trick to do something you would have done with
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hardware it's pretty smart and it's good the other is long exposure mode same idea you find like a waterfall or even
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like light streaks from car headlights at night and you just hold still take a quick exposure you don't have to hold
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there for very long it'll look at everything moving and go okay here's the direction they're moving blur and it just makes this cool long exposure
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effect so we're getting a lot of google smarts in that direction which is like solving for not amazing hardware yeah
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don't forget about the thing with the faces where the face is blurry it will take a photo with the wide angle camera at a faster shutter speed and
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superimpose it yeah it's always running a higher faster shutter speed with the ultra wide and if it notices blurry
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faces it will stitch in the sharper face from the ultrawide into the regular shot it's good stuff one of my favorite
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things about yearly pixel launches is that they almost always introduce some new crazy computational photography mode
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that you're just like you weren't even thinking of like the astro mode in the pixel 4 is literally just an extension of uh hdr
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the way that the original create originally created hdr with stacking and and that kind of stuff and like
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realigning that that stuff this year was definitely very cool um the funny thing is like
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some of the earliest use cases for machine learning especially in photography has been like object
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identification and knowing what an object is because you're just comparing
00:26:02
hundreds of thousands of objects against each other and then coming up with a tighter and tighter confidence interval
00:26:08
and so the thing like the action pan is built on top of that right because you're saying this is the car this is exactly where i'm gonna sketch out the
00:26:15
car to be everything else is gonna have like a blur effect yeah and we'll talk about magic eraser in a second but i
00:26:20
think that is one of the most interesting approaches to doing a camera there's been a lot of huawei phones i've
00:26:25
noticed in the past that have like an ai camera mode and you turn on i think it's on by default actually yeah and it will
00:26:32
scene detection it will yeah exactly scene detection and it'll it'll notice like hundreds of different varieties of
00:26:37
things and adjust the shot according to how it thinks you want it and that's the common theme i've noticed
00:26:43
with all these is it's adjusting the shot based on how it thinks you want it it sees grass on the ground we'll bump
00:26:49
that grass up to be more green oh you're taking a landscape shot we're gonna make the sky more blue here oh you're taking
00:26:54
a shot of your dog we're gonna bump the contrast and sharpness here versus maybe apple's approach with uh
00:27:01
photographic styles which is like here's a rich contrast one if you want that here's a vibrant one if you want that
00:27:06
here's a warm one here's a cool one and i think the pixel is just doing the good old-fashioned make everything
00:27:13
bright and contrasty and hope you like that every time yeah and i think it would win the blind smartphone test yeah
00:27:18
for the first time because contrasty is like what people generally like yeah but i don't know that the enthusiast
00:27:25
photographer in us actually likes that more yeah some of that's interesting something that mark lavoy um who is the
00:27:32
former head of computational photography for pixel at google now is that adobe
00:27:38
told me when i interviewed him a few years ago was we're not trying to make a camera in the pixel we're trying to make a magic imaging box
00:27:45
you press a button and everything just gets done for you that's why traditionally the pixel cameras ui has
00:27:50
been really stripped of any additional settings and actually if you want to change settings for pixel ui i think
00:27:55
they've rolled that back a little bit but most of the photo camera settings have been in the settings menu not in
00:28:02
the camera app itself sounds kind of like a little closer to the apple approach before we got the photographic
00:28:08
stuff before photography styles that's the thing is like i feel like they want to minimize the interaction because they just want you to be able to like take
00:28:15
out your phone open the camera double tap or like tap on the yeah a screen um kind of going back to the
00:28:22
way that they're you said that it's like a 7 out of 10 a lot of the time sometimes a 10 out of 10.
00:28:27
um our theory for this is that google's used the same sensor in like
00:28:32
almost all its pixels two through five exact same sensor pixel one almost exactly the same as two yep uh actually
00:28:39
slightly bigger photo sights which was interesting they like went backwards um
00:28:44
but they had like we said before the point of computational photography is to make up for the physical boundaries in a
00:28:51
device and so google kind of figured out like okay well
00:28:56
hdr is something that you can't really get with a small sensor naturally because you're brightening things a lot
00:29:03
right you're like bringing up the shadows and you're lowering the highlights and then also contrast and
00:29:08
sharpening and generally when you have a crappy sensor contrast and sharpening kind of allow
00:29:15
uh an image to look a little bit better than it normally would if it was like out of a blurry three megapixel
00:29:20
like feature phone yeah but it'll start to look a little more processed exactly so
00:29:26
so they did this for years and everyone like was like the pixel camera's amazing the pixel camera was amazing every
00:29:31
single year they got more intense with the hdr and i think that was the wrong move personally like yes you can see more
00:29:38
detail in the shadows and yes you can retain more highlights but the point of like
00:29:44
contour and contrast is what gives images depth and at some point people start to look
00:29:49
like zombies because it lifts the shadows in their face they look dead grass starts to look gray like
00:29:55
everything sort of starts to look gray yeah and now we have this new 50 megapixel sensor which like you said
00:30:01
earlier is a 12.5 i heard something about it's like it's a physical bin instead of a software bin and that's the
00:30:07
reason that you can't like switch it to um fifth full 50 megapixels don't
00:30:13
understand that i don't understand that either 50 megapixel isn't it not a 50 megapixel
00:30:18
sensor then if you can never ever ever get a 50 megapixel image from it my guess is that apple bought up all the
00:30:24
good 12 megapixel large sensors oh wow yeah and so then they had to go with whatever is available and if it's a sony
00:30:32
or samsung sony and samsung like to just be like let go high resolution our smartphone sensors are
00:30:38
um but now they've got this huge sensor and we did all this testing right i was
00:30:43
like okay if you shoot raw photos out of the pixel because you can't right this is good yeah there's a rod plus jpeg
00:30:48
mode you can also use like the lightroom camera app and shoot raw if you then you can compare what this
00:30:56
sensor is actually capable of versus what google is doing in a pr in the processing yeah we shot raw when you
00:31:03
shoot raw it's really flat it's like log uh you bump the vibrance to sort of bring color back to people's skin
00:31:11
um yeah yeah i was going to go on a tangent between vibrance and saturation which is very confusing but i won't do that so uh
00:31:18
contrast curves yeah yeah so if you bump the vibrance back up you kind of see like okay overall quality of this image
00:31:25
sensor what is it and you can see the amount of processing that google is doing makes these images
00:31:33
look like a pixel 2 pixel 3 pixel 4 more more like a pixel 5 photo because of how
00:31:39
much processing they're doing to the hdr but over sharpened over contrasty
00:31:45
the way that it's processing into a jpeg makes the skin break down makes the eyes break down
00:31:51
pulls all of the highlights out of any highlight pulls all the shadows up and it also does some like distortion
00:31:57
correction we took this photo of adam's face where on the raw it looks like his face it
00:32:02
looks good but on the pixel photo it's like almost it doesn't look wrong but he looks different like he
00:32:09
looks like a different person it's like reality went through a black box and out the other side you got this
00:32:15
really shiny like impressive photo on a phone screen but when you start to blow
00:32:21
it up or start to want to edit it yourself it's actually not as good as the original right i think a sweet spot
00:32:28
would have been right in the middle and i don't know if that's the way they think about cameras we're like oh we
00:32:33
want to appease the enthusiasts and give them a little bit of a flatter image no they're trying to they're trying to win the blind smartphone they're trying to
00:32:39
enthusiasts don't make money yeah i get it i get it i hate i hate that i like care about this so much because i know
00:32:46
that it's probably the opposite opinion the thing is though if you really think about it they kind of nailed it because the
00:32:52
enthusiast is going to be able to take a raw photo and do what they want with it and get what's needed out of it because they
00:32:59
all know how to do it whereas the point-and-click is going to be exactly for the the regular people but
00:33:05
like if you look what's capable out of the sensor it looks so good it looks like almost like a medium format camera
00:33:12
image because of the like the proportions of the size of the sensor to the lens like it's crazy the problem
00:33:18
just is is the people who are buying it arguably aren't going to notice that difference
00:33:23
or they're going to see like we've proved with the smartphone testing like yeah sharper brighter is going to be
00:33:28
perceived as better i totally understand that their counter like their probably counterpoint is like 95 percent of
00:33:34
people view all their photos on their phone yep and that is true and i totally understand i just see the capabilities
00:33:40
out of this phone because i blew them up on the pro display xdr and they look amazing i could have taken that on the
00:33:46
hasselblad like camera and it's like it's crazy yeah that's that i think is kind of tied into the whole idea of what
00:33:53
pixel is this year which is they're trying to make a phone for everybody this year i mean we've seen the
00:33:58
enthusiast market and it's sort of like pixel has always been the example of what an android phone
00:34:04
would be um not i mean you can buy if you want some people bought it whoopty do google store maybe a couple other
00:34:10
places but now it's just like oh yeah we're gonna run commercials for this for months we're gonna share this with as many people as possible and this is our
00:34:16
big shot at like giving people a third option after iphone and samsung yeah that's a very different approach from
00:34:22
what pixel has been in the past and maybe the camera sort of tilted in that direction as a result yeah i still think
00:34:27
they can update it a little bit in software i'm holding out hope we'll see i don't think they will but i will also
00:34:33
hold that we'll see i'm optimistic um magic eraser though i want to talk about magic racer for a second it's so
00:34:39
fun so this this could be a gimmick and i'm overreacting but i loved it i mean yeah instagram reels loved it so the world
00:34:45
must like it too yeah instagram it was it was doing
00:34:51
really great on instagram yeah literally you just open up a photo go to tools go to magic eraser and it determines with
00:34:57
ai if there's anything in the background you probably don't want it's pretty good at that by itself it'll just highlight
00:35:02
little people behind you if you're standing alone in the front of the frame and there's somebody behind you over your shoulder it'll just highlight it
00:35:07
right away more objects go object detection from machine learning exactly it knows these objects and it goes you want to remove this and it gives you a
00:35:13
button and you hit erase and it just disappears and it fills in the background so
00:35:19
if you're aware of content aware fill in photoshop or even after effects it works really well with certain types
00:35:26
of backgrounds and so all the examples we see that work really well are typically
00:35:32
patterned backgrounds simple backgrounds high contrast object versus background
00:35:37
and when you do that on this phone it really does look like magic i'm telling you you can show like your parents this
00:35:43
bit like fade in fade out effect that it has yeah it just like highlights it and just glows and disappears yeah like that's crazy yeah that looks like the
00:35:49
future show out to your parents they'll think it's the coolest thing ever i guarantee it it's faster than photoshop
00:35:55
cantadora filters so good for them um if you try like a
00:36:02
crazy huge object with a crazy complex background it's going to look insane it doesn't always work as well i think
00:36:10
you guys did one of it picked me out of the back of a photo of you guys in my desk and it
00:36:15
it like to agree with you like wrapped your upper body out but your legs were still there and then it made it it just blurred it was just this like stretch
00:36:22
across it's just like content to where phil where the area you take out if it doesn't hit it's just kind of a smudge
00:36:28
yeah it doesn't know what was supposed to be behind it it's bringing something like a professional grade tool to common people and letting
00:36:33
the basics of it work really well letting them see it for the first time where i'm sure most professional people would
00:36:39
rather just clone stamp or something manually rather than if if the iphone had this people would be losing their
00:36:44
minds yeah this is a really cool gimmick like when you go to like a famous photo spot
00:36:50
or something or you go to like a very popular tourist destination the instagram ability of this for people
00:36:56
that you know they're like i ran across the golden gate not going to bridge the brooklyn bridge the other day
00:37:02
and there's people running through and the amount of people that are trying to get that photo where it looks like they're the only one on the bridge but then
00:37:09
there's everyone running through this is the perfect scenario that's what everyone's thinking when they see this commercial yeah i can finally get that
00:37:15
photo now yeah i have this phone so i thought it was really cool that's that speed of it in the video i showed
00:37:20
that's the tensor advantage yeah i want to talk about a thing i was surprised by which is the battery life not being that
00:37:26
great yeah so i haven't published the video yet so we'll see and i'm gonna watch other people's reviews once i publish this but i'm very curious what
00:37:33
your experience and thoughts were with the battery because i thought it would be amazing yeah i thought it could have been amazing yeah i got like a little
00:37:40
over three to three and a half hours of screen on time you got a little better right yeah on the pro i was seeing like
00:37:48
around four probably because the ltpo display sure yeah yeah ltpo a little bit bigger
00:37:53
battery obviously it's a bigger brighter screen but i'm i'm i never got over four and a half yeah so it's not great
00:37:59
especially when you compare it to what apple did this year with the iphone 13 series and just like and an hour and
00:38:06
a half more two and a half hours more and now the max in particular gets like 10 hours of screen on time and that was that was my
00:38:13
comparison so like i when we hold up an iphone 13 pro max it's a big phone sure but it's very flat very tightly put
00:38:20
together that phone has a 4 300 milliamp hour battery
00:38:25
not that huge yeah and it's an it's a two-day phone it's got like a crazy long
00:38:30
eight plus hour screen on time battery life yeah so now google comes out with a phone tensor
00:38:36
yeah five thousand milliamp hour battery i'm thinking wow okay yeah it's gonna be good
00:38:41
um and i'm getting half of the battery at best that the iphone did so that was my that was my
00:38:47
interest um my initial like curiosity was like oh i guess it tensor didn't really take too
00:38:53
many cycles off of the high-powered cores yeah it's not the same thing as
00:38:58
like apple having efficiency cores and high power cores really like the the tensor cores uh the tpu
00:39:05
are sort of separate from the low energy cores right and your phone's sort of doing machine learning all the time
00:39:11
especially pixel phones because it's always listening for the keyword and it's always doing these little like
00:39:17
smart assistant things there's a context hub on the chip itself right and that's supposed to be a low-ish power hub
00:39:24
i just think that overall this is like the first chip design that is built around the tpu it's
00:39:30
google's first attempt at sort of designing their own chip uh manufactured by by samsung but that doesn't matter i
00:39:37
think that's a confusion a lot of people had they're like samsung's making the chip for google it's like yeah they're
00:39:42
building it like tsm google's not a foundry yeah google's not a foundry but they designed it yeah i think this year
00:39:49
is was just like okay can we make our own ship i i listened to this interview with rick osterlow and i
00:39:55
think he said they started the process of like conceptualizing it like five years ago but they only started like
00:40:02
actually making it like a couple years ago like building the design and uh i think this year is just
00:40:08
making sure that they like can we actually do this and what is possible if we really push
00:40:15
like these tpu cores to a limit right now i think next year second generation
00:40:21
of most products is where you really iron that stuff out yeah and i think next year they'll figure out how to make
00:40:28
tensor work just as well while using a lot less power i had a friend at nationals ask me hey marquez should i
00:40:34
get the pixel 7 and at first i was like what kind of dumb question is that but then you're like wait and they were like well i've got a pixel 4 and like i don't
00:40:41
really think i'm gonna get the pixel six so i'm gonna be good for one more year so how's the pixel seven going to be
00:40:46
and then i actually thought about the iphone 14 i know like i initially was just like i don't know anything about that phone but i thought
00:40:52
about it and i was like you know what they the second generation of tensor yeah
00:40:58
it'll be their second shot at this new camera system and they'll probably refine a lot of
00:41:04
things about the design and it'll kind of feel like a second generation of this new pixel right and i thought about i
00:41:10
was like actually yeah that's probably a good place to jump in like pixel seven and that's not saying pixel sixes or six
00:41:16
pro or bad phones by any means i still think the six is a great deal and you should jump on it if your phone's getting kind of old but yeah i agree
00:41:23
when we'll see the second generation of tensor i'm i'm gonna be that much more interested in battery this is also
00:41:28
apparently the first pixel pro pixel phone or like higher end pixel phone that is built by that htc team that they
00:41:34
acquired yeah like apparently they did they did like the 4a or something right but this is the first like pro one and i
00:41:41
the build quality yeah is not quite iphone level um or even like high-end
00:41:47
oneplus phone level in my opinion like there's a lot of weird quirks about the build quality that make it feel like
00:41:54
slightly cheaper than other android phones just a little but especially pixel six is such a good value
00:42:00
that like that's something you can write off right that's the difference though so with pixel six with that price
00:42:05
i'm totally fine with it yeah with this phone they keep saying flagship flagship flagship and so my natural instinct when
00:42:11
they say that word is to compare it to the other flagships which are a bit more expensive yeah but you do start to see
00:42:17
yeah you start to see a difference there and s21 ultra screen is way better than the pixel 6 pro screen it just is it's a
00:42:24
better screen the iphone has a flat screen i think it's also better despite being low resolution
00:42:29
so it's those types of little things with the build quality just how tightly built it is there's a lot of seams on the back so i agree like in the flagship
00:42:35
you can nitpick a bit more but yeah if we can talk a little bit more about tensor really quick sure um
00:42:41
so as you pro as you also saw the speed of the natural language processing on sensor good it's just so
00:42:49
good it's incredible everything that i hoped for can we do a demo right now yeah just let me have like andrew talk
00:42:55
and then i put the this up next
00:43:01
yeah also i'm in airplane mode and that's going to be totally fine for this yeah because it's on device yeah all right and you can just talk as fast as
00:43:08
you want talk as fast as i want i do know guns and ships from um hamilton
00:43:14
is that that's pretty quick i don't know we get demonetized i don't think so can you say it really fast it is it is a
00:43:20
fast song and i'm already cringing that i've offered this out here but um whatever you give me one minute to like
00:43:27
well let me get this out yeah hold on okay i will i trust you i'm excited for this
00:43:32
i'm taking this horse by the rains making red coats brother blood stains and they're never gonna stop until i make a drop and put it up and scatter the remains
00:43:38
not okay it didn't do that that was too fast it was it was a little slurred
00:43:44
it has to be slurred to be that fast but yeah um but it's still though is continuing to do this as i'm talking
00:43:49
right and what's pretty impressive is that it's keeping up with everything it's almost at the point where i don't know what to say the next word because
00:43:56
it's exactly where i am on the screen and i'm kind of losing breath but this is a perfect podcast contest i'm it's
00:44:02
like really out of breath it's a real time it's crazy it's really impressive although now it is getting a little
00:44:08
confused because you're talking in the background over some of the things and that's where the one time where it seems
00:44:13
to kind of uh go off to remember who it was but somebody wrote most of their
00:44:19
pixel 6 review with the voice i was gonna say that's voice attacks this has changed the way i think
00:44:26
i'm going to use this phone which is i want to use voice more often as much as possible i'm texting with the voice a
00:44:31
lot more oh yeah they got the little little mic in the keyboard i just michael was doing that too yeah last night he's just like texting like long
00:44:38
paragraphs at this point exactly and it punctuates you well and if you're in the middle of something and catch
00:44:44
something being wrong while the mic is still going you can go cursor around different parts of it and
00:44:49
replace words it has content awareness so if you correct a name spelling one time it'll
00:44:54
remember that later if you are texting somebody about somebody it will remember the name and the spelling of the person
00:45:01
your contacts that you're talking to them about it's it's really really does it say mkbhd or does it say i'm kim phd
00:45:08
fantastic question i've never tried it and i might as well just try it right now ready yeah
00:45:14
let's do this live i'm gonna screen record what is up guys this is this is the the real truth yeah all right here we go
00:45:23
hey what is up guys mkbhd here welcome back to another video and it did actually get it right wow incredibly now
00:45:30
they just need to like run the youtube thing on their tpus yeah and then we'll
00:45:35
be good that is not what i expected usually it gives you some sort of a weird phd was
00:45:40
one i forget what some of the other ones were because i banned them from our subreddit because they got so annoying but um that's good yeah so the other
00:45:47
thing with the natural language processing is like you can live translate with live captions so live
00:45:56
caption is something that they introduced last year i believe where you basically on device without
00:46:02
internet you can caption any content that is on your phone so if you take a video of your kids recital or something
00:46:09
you're watching it back it will just put the captions live as you're watching the video which is incredible and now if uh
00:46:16
if you're watching any video in a different language it will show you captions in your
00:46:21
language live translation without internet unbelievable unbelievable this is the
00:46:27
type of stuff that doesn't appear on any benchmark like no matter how good your chip is this is the type of stuff you
00:46:34
can't really measure until you just use it and you're like oh this is incredible yeah so that's why i said in the video
00:46:40
the delta between the benchmarks and the usages is massive here my theory is we've really sort of hit this limit with
00:46:46
cpu and gpu performance more cpu i guess but where you can't really tell the difference between this year's flagship
00:46:53
smartphone and last year's flagship smartphone so what should we be trying to make better year-over-year it's the
00:46:59
ml stuff it's the stuff that is actually going to be helpful to us on a day-to-day basis
00:47:04
like all of this stuff that feels like magic like our tech is starting to feel like magic let's just accelerate the
00:47:09
magic right yeah fully in fully in on that yeah all right so we got to talk about whether we're going to upgrade to
00:47:15
these phones then somebody asked me did you ask me earlier oh no yeah you said are you going to main this phone yeah
00:47:21
um yeah yeah i'm going to mean this yeah i mean this this is to me it comes down to
00:47:26
android 12. i really like a lot of the features and to me it was between this and the s21 ultra which i've made more
00:47:32
than any other phone this year fun fact for the podcast yeah uh i really like the oneplus 9 pro the screen is so much
00:47:39
better on the samsung that i went to it it's still better than the pixel but i like android 12 that much yeah google
00:47:44
assistant call screening live transcription all these little things the camera is good enough i'm i'm
00:47:52
probably just sticking with pixel yeah i i tweeted a couple days ago and this is a very classic tweet but like this is
00:47:58
the hardest year for me on whether or not to be on the latest pixel or on an
00:48:03
iphone and previously i didn't really care that much but then i started this job and then we started using a lot of apple
00:48:09
products and then i got locked into the ecosystem and now it's like i feel the chains yeah um but android 12 for me is
00:48:16
a huge reason like tensor is amazing all that all the smart natural language processing stuff is great but android 12
00:48:23
just feels so like fun and friendly and it feels like such a huge refresh when it comes to like specifically material u
00:48:31
when it comes to like the experience of your pixel because you say like change your wallpaper change your life right now change your wallpaper change your
00:48:37
life and change your system theme change your accent colors exactly exactly not the accent button though still yeah i'm
00:48:44
sad about that yeah change your wallpaper change your accent button that would be crazy that would be crazy put a
00:48:49
little led in there andrew patton pending there yeah we did questions you're the one that owns a pixel 4 right now yeah you can upgrade okay so like
00:48:55
this hearing everything i haven't tried it yet but like everything you guys say is so exciting and the battery life just makes
00:49:03
me so sad so here's a question how good is the battery life on your pixel four because that that phone did not have
00:49:09
great battery life i mean yeah but i hope that two years later is better than the phone i'm using that's two years old
00:49:15
um the thing is is like ultimately i think i still probably will because i just know my day-to-day usage revolves
00:49:22
around having chargers in pretty opportune spots like i have a long commute i have a wireless charger on my
00:49:28
desk i have a wireless charger on my desk at home i have one by my bed so like i highly doubt it will happen and
00:49:33
if i'm going on a long hike going on a long trip i have a battery bank i can keep with me it's not that big of a deal
00:49:40
it just feels like it hurts really bad like it feels like it's they added all these amazing things that like you said
00:49:46
are magical like this phone feels magical in so many senses and then the battery just seems like
00:49:52
such an obvious thing that should be better and when you see those numbers feels like it should be better and yeah
00:49:57
i think it's just kind of sad i think tensor is just power hungry if this is get the pixel 7
00:50:04
yeah yeah i'm just gonna daily if this phone had the iphone's battery life i would i would no recommend this phone so
00:50:11
fast so many people absolutely it's battery's important and i think that's the issue is like when you compare it to
00:50:17
an iphone like i i know people who are pixel users and didn't really like some of the newer ones so they went to iphone and this was
00:50:23
one where they're thinking of coming back and i was just like i don't i don't know if it's the one that's coming it's funny with this the script
00:50:30
is flipped the iphone always used to be like i love ios but the battery sucks and now it's literally the opposite
00:50:37
crazy i think i have some nerdy friends too who like uh you know on that branch of nerdy not
00:50:42
quite us nerdy but like um like liked android stuff and then but once you go to iphone it's it's hard times it's
00:50:48
really hard to come back so hard to get out i'm saying that as someone who's never done it and i understand how difficult i regret it it's factual i
00:50:55
regret it i think i will probably get a regular six though yeah um i think this is an insane deal i might wait till it
00:51:02
even goes on sale it probably will because it's google that's which is what's also really fun about it friday
00:51:07
baby it's coming up yeah so we'll see i might we'll see shipping dates are pretty when
00:51:13
are you getting yours adam you ordered one already yeah i ordered mine and it's supposed to be coming here this friday i
00:51:19
believe oh i thought it was like not too late in november pretty good yeah it's october 29th or 30th is the estimated
00:51:24
delivery date it's pretty good okay what color did you get stormy black six pro or six six yeah strawberry blackberries
00:51:31
i think i might get green see i want to see it in person i haven't seen the green one i might do it michael
00:51:37
has it we were comparing colors at home yeah it's two different greens right top yeah yeah yeah it's more darker green on
00:51:43
the top and more of like a uh acid green it's like a matte black but it's nothing like
00:51:49
that iphone green right like it's iphone great there's like an army group yeah they're all like olive army like which i
00:51:55
really do like i love that color yeah yeah that's like a classy color but google is going google and doing the
00:52:01
thing i'll put a case on it either way so i guess mean it can't really matter very well it doesn't matter then and if you want mag safe that's fair
00:52:08
yeah i have a great segue um because we were just talking about it's actually too good of a segue to really go
00:52:13
smoothly i was gonna say every great segue starts with saying that it's a great yeah it's too good of a segue but i'll explain it so that it's way worse
00:52:19
okay so we were just talking about android versus iphone and how hard it is to get into one or the other and get
00:52:25
across that bridge um i've had a couple bluetooth issues with the tesla app on android haven't had that issue i think
00:52:33
at all since i got the iphone 13 where the phone is your key and it's bluetooth and it's just proximity to your car
00:52:39
uh so we can talk about tesla now what a great segway hey beautiful nail that all right
00:52:46
tesla trillion dollar market cap that's all i wanted to say good god that's cool yeah good god actually the reason they
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hit a trillion dollar market cap is because of the news that what was it hertz bought a 100
00:52:59
thousands yeah which i had so big account i i've i mean it's not a hundred thousand
00:53:04
tesla's or a hundred thousand dollars the money to buy a hundred thousand tesla lamborghini account
00:53:11
that's a lot no that's it's a big investment for for hertz because they clearly want to offer electric cars and
00:53:17
so now they've bought a hundred thousand of them and that's the electric car that they've chosen to invest in to offer to
00:53:22
people so it says a lot about hertz it says a lot about tesla it says a lot about electric cars yeah um tesla's
00:53:28
market cap skyrockets great i just think like everywhere i go i i kind of want when i
00:53:34
whenever i rent a car i try not to whenever i do rent a car i want to get something like similar to what i'm used to
00:53:40
um the fact that people are interested to be out there renting model threes just casually is pretty cool pretty good
00:53:45
i would they're careful on saying casual though because it's not their base it's
00:53:50
like their premium luxury rentals so it's not just like your everyday rental that most people most people renting
00:53:56
cars i would say usually go the cheapest possible route for being able to get around so it's like compact budget cars
00:54:02
this won't be those definitely understandably um but the fact that they've gotten there will be more out
00:54:08
there i think the chance that people will be able to drive them more like be able to test and actually drive one for
00:54:14
a few days which is like way more than just a test drive i'd use turo to drive a model three like four years ago yeah
00:54:21
that's actually a really interesting point i just have to work for a tech channel and i got the intro people will be uh trying to rent these just to test
00:54:28
drive them i think that will actually be the case um i think people will rent them to try them see how they what they
00:54:34
like about it that's the kiss of death i test drove a tesla for eight minutes and was hooked so if you rent it for a
00:54:40
couple days you're gonna really want that car when i test drove my first uh tesla i'd
00:54:46
not driven in five years and i had to drive around new york city and i thought i was going to die as stressful
00:54:52
yeah actually the first time i ever drove a tesla was a model s p 85 plus in white i made a video about it when i
00:54:59
was in college it was in new york and they drove it over to me and i got to like drive around new york city for a
00:55:06
couple minutes i was very interested really liked it um i was i think i was kind of hooked
00:55:12
because i was driving a different car and then as i got back i like got out the car like all right cool that was fun
00:55:17
we shot the rest of our video and they're like you done with it and they're like yeah and then the guy got in the car and just
00:55:23
punched it and i saw the cars go in new york oh that's cool like no other car does what
00:55:29
that guy just did real quick into the parking garage there and i think that was that was when i was
00:55:34
hooked the cool thing about this hurst thing though is that means there's probably going to be more chargers right there are going to be more chargers
00:55:40
they've um it says hertz plans to set up level 2 and dc fast charging stations in 65
00:55:45
cities by the end of 2022 um and more than a hundred more by the end of 2023 so like lesbian
00:55:53
hurts like that i don't know i'm hoping not um it also kind of i mean any more
00:55:59
infrastructure is good infrastructure depending on how many they put though you only need to charge the car until
00:56:04
full and then charge rate before someone rents one i'm sure it'll depend on how they're being used how often they're being used
00:56:11
how many they have versus how many cars they have that are rented out because like if a car is rendered for a week they
00:56:16
obviously are not going to have a charger empty for a week yeah this is interesting they'll have priority though
00:56:21
there's a bunch of questions that actually just came to my mind about renting an electric car is one um i hope you have one because one i
00:56:28
thought was kind of interesting oh well i was just gonna say when you have a car sitting in a parking lot for
00:56:33
a couple days with no one renting it it just sits with the gas and the gas tank yeah with electric cars there is a
00:56:39
little bit of phantom drain over time yeah right and i'm curious if they're just going to leave those cars plugged
00:56:45
in that whole time or will they have to have somebody go around constantly maintaining all the electric cars making
00:56:51
sure they don't drain i would think i would assume keep it to a certain point
00:56:56
which is which this is that point would be like if we get this car rented for tomorrow we can have it
00:57:03
topped off or if we even if we get this car rented in the next couple of hours if it's available other than that you just check your
00:57:08
schedule and know when a car is going to be rented and can top it off before that um what i thought was kind of interesting and just different for
00:57:15
rental is like what is the one thing you dread when you return a rental car the cost for gas exactly yeah so they say
00:57:22
right now um they don't have a set standard for what you'll have to do you can return it
00:57:27
essentially not at full okay uh they can just charge it there yeah they can just charge it there so in the gas station
00:57:32
ultimately i hope they keep it like that you always wonder these places are trying to make money the whole gas station figure out how to make as much
00:57:38
money as possible i'll figure out a way to charge you if you can't then you kind of have to add a little time now to you
00:57:44
returning cars if you're trying to catch a plane if you need to charge it if you need to return at 100. i'm really hoping
00:57:49
that's not the case it seems like a total money grab if it was and it would just i will tell you the first time that
00:57:56
i rented a model 3 on turo the guy that i rented it from said you have to return the car at a 100 percent charge and i
00:58:02
was like one that's not possible because when i charge it and then drive it back yeah
00:58:08
yeah and then and then the other thing was that there were no tesla superchargers in that vicinity so
00:58:14
that was the first time i'd ever driven an electric car yeah so i had like an hour to get it to him i pull in and it's
00:58:20
like this is going to take three and a half hours to charge so i ended up returning it two hours late he charged me like a fifty dollar convenience speed
00:58:26
it was just that is a sneaky guy yeah yeah well i hope hertz isn't run by this sneaky guy
00:58:34
i mean these companies tend to do this to make money but i'm i'm seeing level two so level two is like what you might
00:58:40
have with like a dryer plug or something like that you can charge like 25 30 miles an hour that's just how i measure
00:58:46
like how many miles you add to the battery we're like level one plugging into like a trickle charger
00:58:51
three miles an hour tops yeah so level two is somewhere in the middle level three would be like your superchargers on the side of the road
00:58:58
those are great so when i see they're setting up a bunch of level two fast chargers i think that means they
00:59:03
will be for all of their electric cars yeah to at least be able to use but mostly a bunch of new teslas so that
00:59:09
would also give me the impression that they are wanting to leave them plugged in because if your voltage is uh your
00:59:17
voltage like your pipe is wider but you're not pushing as much electricity through it that's better for your battery got it yeah that's the type of
00:59:23
charger we have at the studio just level two fast charging yeah one other thing is as of right now up
00:59:29
until february i guess this is rolling out like as we speak um up until february you'll get free super charging
00:59:36
through the hertz rental but they're not sure how they're doing it after that quite yet so that one that's interesting that is an
00:59:43
awesome like reason to get a premium you know rental you're spending a little more but if you can get free supercharging that's
00:59:50
awesome um after that then i wonder how does it work because like when
00:59:56
you're someone who doesn't own a tesla when you're using superchargers do both do both of you have free supercharging
01:00:02
right now or do you pay i don't have i have supercharging credit okay so why does this unlock so when you do it is it
01:00:07
just it knows your car when you go up or so i guess i guess the easiest way would do is
01:00:13
hertz would just send you the bill afterwards on charging because it's hooked to there oh no the car knows it
01:00:19
has credit the car itself knows it has credited yeah but i'm saying when you are gonna go rent one of these cars now
01:00:24
and you have to pay for charging past if they don't there's no way they continue to keep free super charging no that's fine so
01:00:30
the car will know it has tesla supercharging credit but if you plug into a non-tesla supercharger you will have to pay when you're there
01:00:37
how is the rental person going to pay a tesla supercharger when it's not their car
01:00:42
is what i'm saying so i'm thinking the easiest way would just be it is hooked up to hertz they know how
01:00:48
much they're getting charged for that car build it's probably hooked up to hurts and i think it does yeah through
01:00:53
february
01:00:59
yeah that's about to expire i mean that's what the the response that i believe i was
01:01:05
looking at like an axios or axios or car and driver that was the response they got from hertz wow is that
01:01:11
up until february 2022 you'll have one day of doing it i don't
01:01:17
even know if elon can make a hundred thousand more model threes before then the trunks will be falling off hey this
01:01:24
isn't the monkey [Laughter] well yeah that's that's pretty much all we had i mean we also had like a tesla
01:01:31
rolling out and rolling back 10.3 yeah i don't have a whole i haven't i still don't have the beta
01:01:36
um that's pretty much it yeah
01:01:43
that's kind of all i had to say yeah um yeah this continues the trend of having at least one tesla reference probably on
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