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foreign [Music] what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm Marquez and I'm Andrew and today we've
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got our final thoughts on the Lucid air even though there's some new news on it we'll get over all that in a second it's just a new spec of the same car uh we've
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got some renders of a pixel fold that should be interesting to talk about and see and to wrap it all up Andrew's got
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his mind changing again on which Smartwatch he's going to use we will get an explanation yes we will but first uh
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this weekend uh I have a quick tweet that a lot of people were interested in so I just wanted to go over it real quick which is uh the power wall and
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solar system that I have set up finally I don't I want to say paid off that's not the right term but the investment
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finally made a lot of sense because they had a power outage I wasn't even home um but basically what happens is the way you know I've talked about this in the past a little bit on Twitter and I think I'm eventually going to make a video on
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the solar panel setup and the backup batteries but basically during the day when I'm not home the tons of sun is
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shining on the roof and the solar panels are collecting lots of energy and that is more energy than the house is using
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so the house stores that excess energy in the batteries yeah when I get home the lights turn on the appliances turn
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on the energy gets used and so when the Sun goes down the house gets powered by those batteries overnight until I wake
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up in the morning again and the solar takes over so basically you can kind of live mostly Off the Grid if you have big
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enough batteries and the bonus is when the grid goes down if there's a power outage you don't
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necessarily even notice which is kind of interesting so that happened for the first time I was actually at my sister's
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wedding in Raleigh congrats to the bride and groom it was incredible um and while I was sitting uh watching
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people have a good time dancing uh I noticed I Got a notification on my phone that said that the grid had disconnected
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now this is when like a hurricane was coming up the coast so it was like windy in the entire Eastern part of the U.S so
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I don't even know what happened but I did get that notification and I opened the app and took a screenshot as you saw on Twitter sure enough
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um no connection to the grid 100 power in the batteries I'm not home so like there's plenty of energy to last like 24
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plus hours but that means the fridge would stay on the whatever things that were happening that keep the HVAC
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running would stay on everything would be fine and I'd come back and no one would even notice if someone was home they wouldn't even notice so I thought
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that was pretty cool um but that's you know it's been a good experience so far having the Off the
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Grid I've had a zero dollar power bill for four months in a row that's awesome I I also really appreciated how in the
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start you said like oh it was exciting but not really exciting because it's one of those that
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were paid off but not it's one of those things where it's like you invest in something or invest time
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in something for like a disaster and you're not hoping for the disaster to happen but like you kind of want to see
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make sure it works um so like I I don't know I found that very funny I remember we went uh hiking one time in Glacier
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and I spent a whole week learning what to do if you see a bear so you're not hoping for a bear but if there's a bear
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I'm ready but it's the last day and I'm sitting in the car I'm like man we haven't seen a bear I haven't got to see if like my instincts would kick in and
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then last day bear instincts perfect nice just saying nice I'm almost curious I've read some things and I don't think they're right about trying to like make lots of noise and appear large I'll teach you later okay so if I ever see a
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bear and yeah Kearney New Jersey yeah that ain't happening yeah but um yeah so powerwall worked I'm excited for that uh solar
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panels or something I I've been thinking about for the house it's I have plenty of other work to do before I get to that
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point but it seems super interesting and I would love to know what your whole setup is if you make a video on it later
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or possibly what some other setups are so yeah yeah I mean I want to wait till through the winter till I you know get a
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full idea of like these are some short days so there's way less solar so I get a better idea but like to get the big
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picture I think what most people's primary concern is is how long will it take to pay for itself so in the summer
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when they were finishing the installation the first few days I had in the summer and the prime of like long
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hot sunny days were like oh my God this is the greatest thing ever I'm generating way more electricity than I'm
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using um but now we're getting into the winter which is the opposite which is like all right maybe you're using a lot of heat
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which is powered by electricity and the days are way shorter and a lot of cloudier and you don't have as much
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electricity going in so less backup so I'm you know I'm going through the whole process us but yeah so far
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yeah it's it's looking pretty enjoying it nice zero dollar power bills it's a good time so stay tuned for that
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eventual video maybe next summer um but we do want to talk about the Lucid air the Lucid air I mentioned has
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a little bit of new news okay yeah can you tell me that before I uh I'll start with that yeah they are officially
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bringing to market the cheapest variants of the Lucid air so uh the one we had that we reviewed was the Grand Touring and that one started at 154
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000 okay it's an expensive car yeah obviously it's a luxurious big sedan which is great they made a cheaper
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rear-wheel drive version with a metal roof not glass roof okay and it starts way down at I think 87
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000 what's the mileage on that it'll get 400 miles of range which is still very solid so it's that's really cool it's a much more appealing I think that's going to be the ideally highest volume selling
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version that they make even though it's not all-wheel drive it's still electric it's still got like a great responsive
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powertrain it's not the fastest thing in the world but it's still that lucid interior people want does it have like
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more range because generally with EVS we've been seeing all-wheel drive versus rear-wheel drive you'll usually gain you
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know at that 300 it'll be like you either get like 300 or 320 so maybe 20 more miles of range but I think a
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battery pack like that yeah they did put a smaller battery in this in this one as well so it's like a 93 kilowatt hour battery oh but that's cool so that's why
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they can make it cheaper because yes our batteries are expensive and here's the fun part this modular battery system and
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we didn't get to show it in our video uh actually has cutouts in parts of the battery that makes sense so in the rear
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seat footwell instead of having your feet up high they cut out parts of the battery right there so your feet have
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more room to slide under the the driver's seats as though Two Hosts that are over six feet tall
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look I like this car a lot I had some hot takes about the design which is it's ugly but we'll maybe we'll get to that
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that's what I wanted to see yeah yeah but I think the car itself the way I I went through I I drove with it I used it
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I lived with it for over a week I think almost almost a week and a half two weeks and like the technology in it the
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motors the drivetrain the one pedal driving the responsiveness of everything the software the way it's organized and
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built as a car is excellent so when I see 154 000 price tag that's what I'm expecting and this is a performance spec too so it's all-wheel drive over a thousand horsepower under three seconds
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zero to 60 450 miles of range I think it's like 170 000 spec incredible car so that is a lucid way and that is that is sort of the theme of the video is like they did a really good job with all the
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parts of this car and if you compare this to let's say Tesla's Flagship which is the model S which starts at a hundred
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thousand dollars they out did one by one each of the most important pieces of the model S more range faster Peak charging
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you know better build quality better luxury more space inside so I thought that was really interesting but yeah you do pay for it yeah you pay for it well that's why so like well all right I have
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a couple thoughts here which is kind of why I wanted to talk about this because I like really enjoyed the car I think
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I don't and you even mentioned looks are subjective like there are people out there who like the looks of that people
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love it one of the things when we had the Lucid air and what was the Ferrari that we had 296 GTB so we had both of
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them parked next to each other in the parking lot and we were it got them like the same day we were both out there looking uh Uber flex but okay we're in
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great Flex my job rules but an Uber driver drove by with a passenger in the car and stopped because he wanted to come look and he wanted to look at the air not the Ferrari yeah that was
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interesting that was very funny and also props to that passenger who also came out to look at them while I was trying
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to get driven home after work but I suspect that the Ferrari was so low it was actually fully hidden by the level I
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literally said to him I told him what it was and told him a bunch about it and then I said also there's a Ferrari right there and he's
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like oh no I'm looking at this I was like oh okay all right I guess he was into EVs and stuff like that but I had a
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clip that I cut from the autofocus video which was some guy I was shooting in the back and some guy was like driving around and he stopped and he's like what
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is that and I was like oh yeah it's a lucid and he was like who makes it I was like oh I'm right I forgot I have to
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explain this it's like the OnePlus yeah and I saw I kind of maybe I'll send this clip to you Adam I'll I'll include that
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audio which is like I'm rolling and I hit the camera record button again and he's like it's a new company called lucid
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Lucid yeah this is 150 they made a they're not making very many but they're expensive yeah
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I was like yeah it looks luxurious yeah it has that look to it it's a big sedan with the two-tone and the glass everywhere yeah there are things I like about I I agree
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with you on the two-tone not a big fan I actually don't like it because I think it looks like with the quote-unquote
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dumpy back it looks like it's a place for it looks like a convertible because the roof is a different color and it
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looks like it has a place to go into the back almost and I don't love that um but I like the front I was thinking
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like if it was a convertible I'm picturing that glass roof folding and it making the same sound as like the Royal
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Flex pie the like sliding back it is an interesting looking car um I like the front though you said it looked like a whale shark I
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said it looked like a whale shark I can't unsee that well what's funny is because I thought the front looked like a whale shark and then you open the back
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and the way the trunk lifts like from like all the way in the bottom and just opens the mouth I was like oh my God
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that looks more like a whale shark um inspired but I I like the outside I think there are better looking cars out there um but I don't hate it and then when you get on the inside of that thing it is
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just it's fantastic you forget about the outside when you're on the inside the inside is so quality it's just like
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everything feels uh I actually was comparing it to the eat the Mercedes eqs we had because that was one where it meant both of these cars feel like they're mostly focusing on the interior and the like passenger or interior
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Driving Experience and the eqs felt like we're Mercedes we know how to do Luxury but we don't really know how to do the
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tech it's like too many screens too glossy yeah a bunch of weird things a like weird Galaxy Tab 2 like in the back
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it's just like yeah we're a luxury but we don't know Tech the Lucid was like the refined version of all of that it
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was the knobs were perfect there was a really good mix of real buttons and touch screen and the folding down screen and a couple little quirks in the software like you mentioned but man the
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interior of that when I I just got to drive it to the back when we were shooting and I was like wow this I would love to sit in this you
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forget about the outside real quick I do I will say the uh the eqs comparison is accurate when I I got a chance to
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actually visit lucid's headquarters briefly before I came back to the east coast and got to Tesla car and what I
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noticed is they had a bunch of their competitors just like lined up in the front door of their headquarters and
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they had a Tesla Model S a Mercedes eqs and a Porsche tycan and and they had them for three different reasons so the Lucid compares favorably in a certain way to each one yeah for the Tesla Model
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S same wheelbase same length more rear leg room okay that's just because of how they've organized it smaller trunk I
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went over that in the video like that's a compromise they made and it works uh eqs much bigger so the Lucid is smaller
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than the eqs to achieve the same leg room okay and then taikan obviously is different it's a sport car but
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more leg room in all dimensions in the Lucid obviously um and that's their thing so yeah it is it is mainly focused on the interior which I think did a great job with
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um I don't know how much you're willing to pay for a car that doesn't yet have access to Tesla superchargers that might
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be a thing soon maybe yeah there's there's some weird news coming out about that too it though like them offering
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their charging system up to other cars essentially the port the port which I'm also confused is that going to be their way to give super charging to other people because one of the ways yeah yeah
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it reminds me of like it kind of feels like offering the lightning port to other phone manufacturers and it's like
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yeah we've got mfi and you can if you want put a lightning port in your phone and it'll work with lightning
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accessories which is like the kingdom that we've built it's kind of the same thing with Tesla superchargers but at
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this point like you're you're getting really fast Peak charging on these cars but only if you can find
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an Electrify America charger that handles 350 kilowatts that's working that isn't occupied and not broken but
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you have 100 over 100 more miles of range on it that's true that's massive so like that is really big yeah you can
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go an entire at least for me for my commute I could go an entire week back and forth commuting and not charge
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that's crazy I also was really hoping you would have like one of your Boston or like uh like ultimate tournament
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trips where you wouldn't have had to charge you probably would have had the charge when you got there and then could have made it back Boston I could go
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there and back without charging there and back without yeah about 400 miles I really wish you had the chance to do that because like I I would be
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interested to see someone who has to plan a charging trip into everything not have to do that and now learning that
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there's an 87 000 still very expensive car and generally chances you're getting that actual car under 100 by the time you like Factor everything in is probably pretty tough
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but a hundred thousand at over 400 is kind of awesome that will be I think the main uh we keep thinking about like reasons you would get a certain EV or another and like which ones are cross
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shopping so the person who would theoretically get the Lucid air appear the 87 000 version of this car is
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probably Cross Shopping against things like a model S or maybe an eqs is more expensive but like this is half the price of the 160 000 car we tested and I'm like the range has got to be the
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number one reason you go with this for sure um I've noticed also that the accuracy
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of the range that it predicts that you will get is pretty close much better than Tesla not as good as rivian rivian's is incredible okay um in Tesla like you can line up at the
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zero and have a Target 200 miles away and it'll say you have 250 miles of battery and you might not make it
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because if you drive a certain way you can use way more power than it's rated to do during that normal driving trip
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that's something I found really interesting testing all these and asking you guys who have Teslas is it seems to
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be a lot of you guys think Tesla has one of the worst range estimators inside of
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there it's yeah I would say it's the most variable so which is not a good thing right like I know that if I drive a certain way I can and will get great range if I drive like without
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accelerating hard in chill mode and I don't like go up and down too many massive Hills whatever like a normal
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drive I will get my range but if I do one pull which is like I it's a nice fast car I want to do one Highway pull you can lose 10 miles of range in 10 seconds
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in less than a mile of driving yeah so like that type of peak power is what you pay for to get that amazing performance
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but now you have 10 miles less of range and just any little thing you do might eat into your range so I think the the
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rivian for example is a lot more conservative where it's just like you'll get 300 miles of range kinda no matter
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how hard you drive and if you drive conservatively you might get more I think I think that's awesome yeah I
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think all the Legacy manufacturers are going to be on that conservative I think I think that's the way yeah so anyway
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watch the Lucid Air review if you haven't already there's a main Channel video it's awesome I will say the first
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10 seconds are literally incredible Brandon I'm kind of biased but you should watch it there's also an
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autofocus Channel video we'll link him in the show notes for sure they're both great and I'll include that clip where you guys can hear out the guy look like
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okay that's a nice car anyway we'll take a quick break we got to talk about the pixel photo when we come back but first
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let's hear our first trivia question all right trivia time so Tesla power walls electric electric Lucid air we've been talking a lot about electricity so here's an electric question how many
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watts of electric power can an electric eel produce I feel like I said electric a lot there absolutely how many watts
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how many watts of electric power like like Max like yeah Jesus yeah that's great also side note have you guys seen that Tick Tock guy who has a basement full of eels yes it's so cool can we
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talk about eel basement guys yeah dude that account is so and like the creepy dungeon door he like climbs down oh my
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God we'll link it in the show notes we'll put a clip up on the aquarium he has a basement that's just like flooded
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and has a ladder into it and that's terrible wow and has a bunch of eels it's really cool he's in danger
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yeah okay that's gonna be a news report in like a year of like dead guy found in basement being chewed apart by oh no God
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forbid yeah hopefully not all right well we'll think about that eel for a little bit be right back
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fold yeah okay so this is coming from a render thanks to front page Tech they've
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collaborated a bunch typically what happens with these renders is somebody gets a leak and you can't just publish
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exactly what you got otherwise you're sort of outing the person who gave you the information so you take that information you give it to a talented
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graphic designer they mock up something that looks like what was told to you you publish that it's a leak that looks like
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the real thing that's what we got sort of a pseudo design of a foldable pixel phone yeah and I want to preface this by saying like these are obviously still rumors and we don't always talk about
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rumors but let's be real this is Google and I wouldn't be surprised if this shoot showed up at someone's house when
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they lost pixel 7 randomly that's the thing the Google train is like when things leak they just it they pour yeah
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like they they Niagara Falls like fully oh is your flashlight on I think flashlight is on that's about it yeah
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your flashlight's on bro what happened to your pixel over there I was just gonna say I've been using the pixel 7 Pro as my daily phone since it came out
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actually no significant phones have come out since the pixel 7 Pro to make me want to switch I had been using the S21
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Ultra for like a year and a half or something like that I thought I was going to go back to it pixel 7 Pro has
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been Rock Solid and I'm very happy so far that is awesome would you use a foldable pixel do you even want a foldable pixel because here's the thing I'm just okay just to paint the picture a little bit Google phones not known for
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their Hardware quality right foldable phones really hard to do great Hardware so to buy a foldable pixel over the
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other foldables you'd be buying it to get the awesome camera and the Google software experience and the
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computational smarts not the great Hardware would that would that be a good phone the thing is is I think I might even disagree a little bit on that because I do think
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I think the pixel 6 started having pretty solid hardware and then they kind of cleaned up that Hardware in the pixel
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7 and I think it feels like a really solid like solidly built phone Fair um that actually is one of the things in this rumor is they said it's heavy and really like built solidly but I do think
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one of the other things in this rumor again like judging by the looks of it and we've heard this months ago that
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people said the form factor is gonna be closer like an Oppo Find n which is different than all the other folders and
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phones we're having so that might even be one of if you prefer that shorter and wider in stature a little more type of
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foldable that might be why you come to this yeah like a passport type size yeah yeah I think that would be cool uh look
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I like the Google software experience so I'm if they can put together a good enough Hardware experience I I think
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that would be nice I'm looking at this rumor right now it looks like it's got all it's got three cameras on it so it might have the same set of cameras as
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the pro phone which would be great real quick on that before we move on so since they can't do the camera bump into the
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edges because it's folding now and one of the edges has to be a hinge they kind of did this rounded Edge protruded
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camera bump looks about as thick maybe even a little thicker than what the camera bump on the 7 is uh Dynamic
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Island I I like it I feel like um do you know what xiaomi started doing these like really thick camera bumps squares
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but not yes squares yeah this looks like that but as a like rectangle almost an oval with the rounded edges I dig it
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it's also in a gray in this render I don't know if that's gonna match but it looks just like the dynamic Island on
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the phone just like oh yeah yeah though because it's got the like bubble popped off from the bigger cutout cut out camera on the front screen and
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then a large somewhat slim bezels on the inside screen I would argue probably thickest bezels out of all the foldables unless you're counting the surface Duo which we all know is yeah right which is
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not even folding screen yeah it does it does also seem like on the inside that the bezels on the top are larger because
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that's where the camera and sensors are that would make sense um so that's the Google way though not don't go too crazy with the hardware just give us like
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standard fine hardware and then just top off you know I think it looks up there it makes the screen look more cohesive
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yeah so then it's like would you would you want a photo pixel over a regular pixel because then you have to worry
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about the software experience and like how you split up and multitask and do you use the outside screen for some things inside for others I really like a
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lot of the foldable like experiences like I like using the Galaxy folds a lot um the one interesting part of the form factor is with the Galaxy fold you can get used to it after a while but
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the outside screen is very narrow and so you don't feel like you're getting the the full smartphone experience on the
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outside I mean you can type but the keyboard's kind of small yeah uh the Oppo Find n felt like a normal usable
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smartphone it was just a thick smartphone because it was folded so I don't think this one's going to be
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particularly thin that's fine they're not going to do anything stunning like xiaomi or Huawei or anything like that
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it's just going to be a normal standard folding phone don't think too hard about it but but you do get twice as much
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phone like what you said though in terms of the exterior screen I think I would prefer that than the like really long
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candy bar shape of the like more smushed down regular phone so like same while I
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don't love smolding well I don't I don't love folding phones right now and that's just a preference
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thing like I don't know maybe the smaller size I think both of us agree that when that find end came out we held
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it and we're like oh I really dig this shape like yeah this uh design layout feels a little more comfortable and yes it is thick I would not doubt if the like the actual size of this thing is
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exactly the same as the the opposite very similar I bet it'll be super the biggest downside is going to be the thickness exactly basically yeah I could
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see it I'm interested I'm definitely interested I I don't think there's going to be coming anytime soon I think maybe next year is the earliest you can see
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this the front page text says may okay that's not that far away that is not that far away that's half a year that would be really interesting as right before I O which is usually summer
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before I owe you know what I I'm excited for it usually I mean May is weird because I would expect like IO to be like all right here's all our new interesting folding phone software and
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then you get the phone or you get the phone at the same time I think that but I think people also think this might come out around the same time as the
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tablet which would make sense to be before I O because they already announced the tablet at IO so maybe this
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just becomes some sort of an event which also more earlier Tech events I'm totally down for sometimes I'm tired of
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waiting for just three months of absolute cramming every single thing in and I was going crazy yeah um so like
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let's get some more stuff in the middle of the year I am excited for it I would be willing to try it here's why I wouldn't buy it because the approximate
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price rumor is eighteen hundred dollars ah classic classic folding phone folding
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phones are expensive yeah totally understand that first gen 1800 bucks everyone else has done it so like I
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don't blame them and I get why they're doing it but that's a that's a doozy it is interesting that we're seeing more and more folding phones the one other thing that I was going to mention is the
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fingerprint reader sensor is rumored to be in the power button which would match
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some of the other folding phones we've seen like the Samsung Galaxy fold for example uh so not like under the display
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or behind the phone or anything like that but yeah we've seen a bunch more folding phones uh of various form
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factors and various interesting things about them whether it's the thinness or the cameras or the the screen ratios or whatever they are so I'm interested I
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think 800 bucks would be right in line with all the other stuff we've seen exactly which I still think is a hard selling point really quick back on the
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fingerprint sensor thing I I like made a note in here because the power button fingerprint sensor
00:26:57
makes the most sense right because then you can unlock it from folded or unfolded whereas like an in-display
00:27:02
fingerprint sensor on the front is tough because then you would also have to have it on the inside we have not had any
00:27:08
phones with that yet right an interior one nope the problem is is the renders of this the power button looks like
00:27:14
extruded quite a bit like a regular power button and every fingerprint sensor power button we've ever seen is
00:27:21
generally indented yeah so um some of these renders now that could be a few things it could be the renders are just a little off bad render or something it could be I mean
00:27:33
I kind of Wonder we had got face unlock on Pixel 6 and 7 Face Unlock would also make sense through the selfie camera on the front and the inside I don't know I don't think people trust face unlock on
00:27:45
some of these I've been enjoying face unlock on mine I wanted it for Face Unlock I've been enjoying it I don't know but for some reason this
00:27:52
power button in the render doesn't scream fingerprint sensor to me it just doesn't look like the right type of button for it interesting we shall see I
00:27:59
mean I think Google is willing to try weird stuff clearly also I could be wrong but the folding Samsung phones the
00:28:08
um camera on the inside is it worse than the one on the outside yeah the you're talking about the under display selfie
00:28:13
camera yeah oh yeah it's awful just awful um but it's there in case you want to take a selfie now with this one there are some bezels and we don't know what I don't know what's in those bezels in the in the the rumor report it's the
00:28:26
camera's in the bezel camera's up in the middle right yeah that that seems they could potentially have the same camera
00:28:32
on the outside and inside like one good enough for a Face Unlock myself I want to say if I remember from from page text
00:28:38
uh article that the only spec they have is 9.5 megapixel camera on the front end
00:28:44
on the inside for selfie okay so maybe matching that feels obviously like a much harder thing to confirm like designs usually come out first Total specs and if they don't list any other specs I I wonder about it but like it
00:28:56
seems in line with it doesn't seem unreasonable would you rather have thin bezels with a crappy front-facing
00:29:04
camera under screen or would you rather have these slightly bigger bezels with a camera that's much more usable at this
00:29:11
point in technology I would rather have the thicker bezels okay I think in a couple years my answer would change yes
00:29:17
you're both wrong no definitely I agree I don't want to like have you you've seen the just terrible quality of those cameras yeah but I wouldn't use the
00:29:27
selfie camera then that's true I never use it I never really use it I do think I'll use it because it's so bad but if
00:29:34
you really need to take a picture just turn the phone around like it's annoying but you know I mean there is like if you
00:29:39
zoom or FaceTime or something it will not FaceTime obviously but if you zoom or or video chat on some other program
00:29:46
like in there yeah maybe the quality doesn't need to be great but like I think I'm gonna rather I don't think a
00:29:52
1080p webcam the internet still makes me look terrible over Zoom calls yeah well this makes you look terrible and makes
00:29:58
it look like you're underwater so I around the Vaseline on your screen yeah it is yeah now I guess I'm the pixel peeper so I'd be a little biased but maybe I'm outside of the norm there I think for the better quality I don't
00:30:09
think you get enough screen real estate especially now that it's a folding phone and you have so much screen real estate I don't think you're losing or gaining
00:30:16
enough of it to sacrifice yeah and you're only getting vertical pixels which is just more blank pixels doing
00:30:23
anything so I'm fine with this yeah so we both agree Adam's wrong yeah I think we're on the same page perfect I'm okay with that cool uh no I I like it I'm
00:30:31
looking forward to it let's say it is May uh I will be keeping my eye out for all the subsequent leaks that are
00:30:38
definitely going to happen yeah because that's what happens with Google do you think Samsung's happy about this or
00:30:44
upset about this I think Samsung is in this funny position where whoever else makes a foldable they can just claim
00:30:50
that it's because Samsung started it and as long as none of them outsell Samsung's foldables they'll feel pretty
00:30:57
good about like so there's no threat with the pixel is what you're saying minimal threat because pixels don't sell
00:31:03
nearly as much as Samsung they're they're playing Google's playing ketchup Samsung's ahead ahead already like they
00:31:10
don't have to worry for a little bit I mean it's also how much does the fold for this still costs less than 1800 bucks
00:31:16
now now it's about the same it's about the same so it's gonna be like which one would you rather buy the Samsung one
00:31:21
that's in the carrier store already or the pixel that's brand new 1800 bucks and you've never seen before probably
00:31:26
still gonna buy the Samsung one we'll see if um if you test it out and then decide not to use it I will volunteer as
00:31:32
tribute to try and live a full life with it we'll see we'll see all right well may 2023 next year's may be more interesting in the non-tec timber season
00:31:43
maybe what we're hearing I think it probably will maybe yeah may it may be in May oh my God all right let's do trivia yeah let's stop [Music]
00:31:58
all right so I don't know why I'm always like smacking my lips every question I remove it every week but now there's a
00:32:04
camera on me so you know anyway that aside we've had a lot of fun with it in the office Dolly
00:32:12
too but where does Dolly get its name from I mean it's an acronym I know oh well let's just go never mind is it an acronym is it a little acronym is it uh is it neither does it just exist is
00:32:26
it the name of an old Danish King I'm gonna go with yes uh I will think about that and I'll probably I know we've talked about it before not on the we have talked about it before when we
00:32:38
were first discovering Dolly I don't fully remember it but I know okay good me neither okay fine all right we'll be
00:32:44
right back [Music] all right we're back I just want to point out uh the clippy ugly Christmas sweater that Microsoft dropped this year
00:33:02
is the best ugliest Christmas sweater that I've ever seen oh man if you specifically want an ugly Christmas sweater this is the one there might be a much there might be a
00:33:14
cooler one there might be a much cooler looking Christmas sweater if you're into looking cool but if you want to look terrible this is the one thank you
00:33:22
Microsoft it's uh Microsoft happy holidays from clippy um man I kind of isn't clippy kind of
00:33:28
we've probably said this before the original uh assistant virtual assistant if we're working if we're comparing
00:33:35
Voice assistance though like Google Assistant it's supposed to like recognize the context of what you're
00:33:40
doing your daily life and present information that might be helpful to you like oh you're about to walk outside let's tell you what the weather is oh
00:33:46
you're about to drive to work let me tell you what the traffic is on the way there oh you've got a flight later today let me tell you like how early to get to
00:33:51
the airport clippy is like are you writing a letter here's how you do that and that's that's a virtual assistant
00:33:58
clippy walked so everyone else could work exactly exactly did clippy predate Bonzi buddy was that I don't even know what that is now now I'm lost
00:34:08
it it should have been a trivia Ponzi buddy was like a Clippy it's very similar it's like a purple gorilla and
00:34:15
it would do things like contact management and calendar management and it came out that it was spyware oh wow
00:34:22
and just yeah stealing unbelievable amounts of your data I don't know what would have been done with that data in
00:34:28
the late 90s yeah that's uh that's a good question this looks Vaguely Familiar it has like a really silly
00:34:35
sounding voice I don't know if we can pull up uh the release interesting um I'm checking the Wikipedia right now
00:34:40
Bonzi buddy was first stable in 2005 where clippy shipped in office 2000 but Bonzi buddies initial release was 1999. so uh I guess you can give the
00:34:55
timeline Edge to Bonzi buddy am I even saying that right I guess so Bonzi buddy uh but I never heard of that too bad it
00:35:02
was spyware that's a bummer clippy was pretty universally clippy was universally loved I would say that's what he sounds like well
00:35:15
that time Sam's undertale oh that's like an evil movie computer voice it's not great that sounds like a horror simply click the continue button below I
00:35:28
will automatically re-register you it sounds like if like like a kid was sleeping in their like CRT monitor in
00:35:34
their bedroom turned on and started flashing like that's the noise that would become the voice that would come out of it strange yeah you can hear it
00:35:41
like synthesis like stitching together syllables you can like hear the syllables happening amazing but yeah
00:35:47
clippy sweater Top Notch um I and there might be another cool sweater coming out later this year we might have some side info I think we can count on it yeah I'm not sure I'm technically not
00:35:58
leaking anything I'm just saying I think that's I think there might be a cool one yeah yeah but last subject I have to
00:36:04
wrap up this episode um I've had a lot of people asking me if I'm still using the pixel watch I just thought I would do a little update I'm
00:36:11
not but I'm on the Galaxy watch five now baby whoa it happened okay okay so explain why no more pixel watch okay my it's hard to explain because
00:36:23
while the pixel watch did not get great reviews and I think they were all warranted like I don't think anyone anything anyone said about the pixel
00:36:30
watch was like not true I actually wound up enjoying the experience a bit I did like how it looked actually it grew on
00:36:36
me quite a bit same I think it is proof that the Apple watch would look better circular not Square because it kind of
00:36:43
just felt like a circle Apple watch um it's just like I didn't get that sense of enjoyment out
00:36:51
of it anymore I found myself waking up in the morning going to work and looking at my wrist and being like Oh I don't have my watch on I just like didn't even
00:36:57
think of putting it on this morning and maybe that was just like La the tracking the automatic tracking
00:37:03
turning it on and off I didn't love that much so I stopped kind of using it for my activity tracking which is something
00:37:08
I really enjoy on a pixel watch so it almost was just a regular watch to me yeah it was digital that I had to charge
00:37:14
every single night you don't miss looking down at your wrist and knowing your heart rate every single second of the day that was pretty sick I yeah I I
00:37:22
don't know it just like it didn't quite have it didn't feel worth putting it on every morning which sounds so mean
00:37:28
because I like did enjoy it when I had it and I did constantly look at it and be like I think this is a really nice looking watch battery makes such a big
00:37:35
difference it does where you have to like think about how annoying you're gonna how annoyed you're gonna be that you're gonna have to charge it over and
00:37:41
over again yes and the funny thing is is the Galaxy watch 5 that I'm wearing right now
00:37:47
is minuscule better in terms of battery life um but I just think I like the overall
00:37:52
package much more one thing I have learned from the pixel watches I enjoy the smaller form factor so we have very
00:37:58
different watches on right now you have an app watch Ultra I'm using the 40 mil uh
00:38:04
Galaxy watch 5. so I went with the smaller version because I liked the pixel watch and I'm really really liking
00:38:09
that decision okay um so I can't directly compare battery life to the watch 4 I was using because that was the
00:38:15
bigger one which I assume potentially might have a little better battery life but I'm ending the day around 30 which
00:38:22
is if you want to sleep track that might not be enough honestly right you have to charge it again before grinding sleeve
00:38:27
yes but I do not do that so I don't care that much I enjoy the fitness tracking aspects of it much better I think it's a
00:38:33
little clearer when you're looking at it I think a lot of the things inside some of the activities just track a little
00:38:40
better and give me better information so I enjoy that and I've the flat top the domed top on the pixel watch I got a couple scratches on it from climbing and I knew like there's a certain movement
00:38:53
sometimes where you're climbing where your watch hits the wall oh that's dude and that thing will be destroyed just
00:38:58
like the Apple watch I had yeah the Galaxy watch 4 I had got crushed climbing I wore six months and never got
00:39:06
a scratch on the screen somehow I got some on like the metal on the outside but now this one's the silver outside so
00:39:11
you won't see that because it won't chip paint off right and I think the screen seems to be one of the more durable ones
00:39:18
I've found so far so good yeah I like it a lot so far I've only been using it for like a week but everything seems to be
00:39:24
just minuscule better than the five even though I'm using the smaller one and also Galaxy watch faces are so good I
00:39:31
love this watch face I was just gonna ask if you have to like so good download a different app to do that nope it's in
00:39:37
the Galaxy watch app it matches your jacket conveniently right now it's with the color really nice yeah like this one
00:39:42
has so much information without being a total cluttered mess like hey what's your heart rate real quick
00:39:48
um 73. oh yeah I didn't even get to check mine are you nervous yours isn't on I think I have a high every heart
00:39:54
rate because the minute I stop playing ultimate I turned into a measured it four minutes ago valorant player instead
00:40:00
and they don't have higher heart rates for a good heart rate 46. you're 46 four minutes ago when it measured me last
00:40:05
yeah oh I can do it again see I don't like that watch face some of the Apple watch faces
00:40:11
feel super cluttered it does I like it better when it's mono colored actually and I have this like crazy gradient of
00:40:18
colors mainly because I can like tell at a glance without actually reading the numbers what's happening like I can see
00:40:23
the temperature is cold because it's blue without me going oh it's 43. I can see my battery's good because it's green
00:40:28
instead of knowing 67 if it's red it'll be down I think we're showing the exact same stuff so you've got I've got
00:40:34
battery yep temperature yep uh my activity tracking the date the time and the are you running an activity right now or is that just like a quick that's a shortcut to launch a workout and a
00:40:47
shortcut to measure my heart rate I don't have that I we both have UV we both have heart rate we both have battery both have steps on the front yep
00:40:54
okay and then yeah I have current weather including the weather for the next two hours and then date and then
00:41:00
you just have temperature or all more temperature and then I have like sunny cloudy whatever well that's UV so
00:41:10
I don't like the way the watch face looks and I think about others to change it to all the time and then I inevitably
00:41:16
change it to one that looks a little bit worse yeah and then I go back to it that's my other thing is I wish I just
00:41:22
liked I like digital watches or digital time for some reason because it feels so much quicker and I've felt that the
00:41:29
digital watch faces on the Galaxy watch if I could get rid of the analog clock [Music] if you asked me what time it was and you gave me the hands it would take me 10
00:41:48
seconds if I asked you what time it was would you pull your phone out right now it would be faster for me to pull my phone out then to look at the hands and
00:41:54
be like okay let's see so that's 12 so that's 11 so it's like a half so eleven that's half the fun I hate to get to
00:42:00
remind yourself all the time that you can still tell time that's like writing in cursive I hate to admit how much I
00:42:05
agree and I know my wife's currently probably teaching time at school right now to kids and I'm sitting here like I
00:42:10
don't want to know that so kids are still learning to read with the hands right yeah okay so like everyone who has a digital clock everywhere surrounding
00:42:17
them in life is learning to read it with hands and then one day they'll see like a grandfather clock they're also still told that you won't have a calculator in
00:42:24
your pocket all the time I can't believe they still tell people this you do have a calculator everywhere you go you literally just yell Google assistant and
00:42:30
it'll just tell you the answer um anyway where was I oh yeah so you liked the yeah I mean I think we kind of
00:42:36
got to the end of it I really think I would like though uh anyone on Twitter hit me up I want
00:42:42
watch band recommendations because the default one's fine but like the Apple Trail Loop is the greatest thing in
00:42:48
existence that I want one so bad for just a different watch okay I like the Trail Loop uh the one thing I will say is this little orange tab uh as soon as
00:42:58
you sweat it's decoloring it's it's getting like this weird Tina maybe I guess it's it it's fine wait can
00:43:06
you do that velcro ASMR yeah ASMR that was Chris but I didn't expect it to be that good but it was actually really good that was nice that's a good that's a quality mic right there uh but yes I do wear the
00:43:18
Trail Loop kind of every day now but I don't wear it for ultimate because I put the sport strap back on because it just
00:43:24
smells really it yeah yeah this thing just a little it gets like kind of soggy and weird when it's wet I don't like that soggy watch band yeah it makes it feel like I'm doing
00:43:36
something yes I'm actually sweating not to get super gross but does it like smell after you shower like after it gets wet did you shower with your watch on yeah oh I don't shower with the band
00:43:48
uh take it off I just take it so that's when I charge my watch I guess you don't really charge your watch very much not
00:43:55
my real watch but the Apple watch I used to charge and you wore it in the shower yeah you check your heart rate in there
00:44:00
no I no I always that's the so I sleep track with it so anytime I'm about to go to sleep when I take a shower that's when I get like I plus 20 batteries when I'm showering and then
00:44:12
wake up and then charge it a little bit in the morning so my watch so the ultra basically like hovers between 30 and 70
00:44:19
all the time interesting how you live like that if I get to charge it every day it's like always between 30 and 70.
00:44:25
if I ever forget to charge it for a day I'll get it down to like 10 I will say two full days I do like the Apple watch
00:44:31
Ultra yeah I actually think it works way better as a square in this form factor it looks a hundred times better yeah
00:44:37
we'll look crazy as a huge circle wouldn't it yeah I don't know there's something really like industrial and
00:44:43
neat I think this is I don't think the regular glass domed Apple watch that square has that same feeling kind of
00:44:50
sucks Fair maybe we'll see a redesign at some point um well that's kind of it the videos on
00:44:56
the channel this week uh I think are really good I believe the iPad M2 Pro review will be up by the time you see this in which I also speculate that we'll probably will be seeing some sort
00:45:09
of adjustments to the iPad design at some point I think we get some display Improvement I think we get some
00:45:16
functional Improvement whether it's better speakers or maybe they'd try to do magsafe or maybe it's something else but I just did not sound excited though
00:45:24
but I do know this M2 iPad Pro is basically the same as the M1 iPad Pro so no need to worry if you already have one of the last two years of iPad Pros so check out that review I think it's a fun
00:45:37
one too check out the Lucid review and I think that's it we should probably get to answering the trivia questions
00:45:44
finally trivia time get your whiteboards all right all good got it got it going with question number one
00:45:57
Tesla powerwalls electric Lucid air all electric things how many watts of electric power can an
00:46:05
electric eel produce this is hard I have so much context I know exactly how much
00:46:10
wattage is required of many household things well we were looking it up because when we did the Eco flow it had
00:46:17
a list of how much it was and some of them are really funny because heating elements are vastly like your hair dryer
00:46:25
was like 100 watts and a refrigerator was like 35 or something which is crazy no it's like a thousand Watts for a for
00:46:32
a heater a thousand yeah like a PC is like you have a thousand watt power supply that's the the peak power that
00:46:38
can go through it like a thousand Watts a microwave might be a thousand Watts right I'm gonna just double check okay
00:46:45
yeah to make sure but like so many of the cars we drive for example will tell us exactly how many kilowatts of energy
00:46:51
it takes I have no idea how much an eel can make oh you're right a hair dryer is 800 to 1800 watts yeah so like over a
00:46:58
thousand Watts but like an eel it's like a it's a total mystery it's it must be enough to damage a enemy fish that's all I know so I'm gonna guess a
00:47:12
ridiculous oh well no I'm just gonna write what I was gonna write no wait I hope I'm close no I'm gonna stick with this okay I think we might be I'm
00:47:24
going low oh perfect oh my God this is very 50 Watts we might be very far from here good luck figuring out who's closest I wrote 10 000 Watts I wrote 50.
00:47:36
there it is I knew it was coming that's awesome for those of you listening to audio Ellis has turned our lights in the
00:47:42
back into did they both blink red okay they blink red I hope they blink green if we get it right but who is so what's the answer what's the closest the answer is 600 watts
00:47:56
no no I'm far I'm 50. he's 10 000. I thought you wrote a thousand Watts I wrote 10 000 Watts okay all right 600. so a hairdryer would win in a battle
00:48:07
versus an electric eel is what I'm hearing no they just both die okay so Marquez has 15 now Andrew still
00:48:14
has 12 and David has nine which still has two I should have zero points I should get an extra point yeah oh yeah
00:48:21
okay sorry we messed that up entirely yeah you did mess that up Andrew has 13. Marquez has 14. there we go producers have negative one also if there's any zoologists listening
00:48:33
right now um can electric eels survive 600 watts like in the eventual hair dryer versus electric eel challenge I think they have to like right but
00:48:46
do they I don't know they've got they're they're like they're built different there's a scientific explanation they have to yeah I guess so please don't throw a hair dryer in an eel tank
00:48:58
yeah yeah Google says that they've reduced the danger to themselves by flexing their
00:49:04
bodies in a shape that prevents the electric current from passing through their hearts oh they're smart dang dang
00:49:10
that's smart they're still getting shocked but just protecting the yeah all right question number two where does
00:49:18
Dolly get its name okay I think this is an acronym but I don't know what it stands for I just
00:49:25
I I know like half of it I think d-a-l-l-e to e-a-l-l-e yeah two dolly two I can't
00:49:37
wait to see what Marcus is okay I got it I have an answer ready it's wrong ready flip it read it out
00:49:48
please okay so mine is I believe it's the mix of the name Dolly like the artist and
00:49:55
then I put Wally like the robot let's go wow Marcus what was your acronym I thought it was an acronym so I made one up I wrote diffusion and
00:50:09
lenticular lens extension I appreciate that right maybe it'll turn into a acronym they'll see this episode and they'll be like that makes a lot of sense yeah I don't think it does but it
00:50:21
could why not Dolly High game baby the artist who's Dolly 14. very famous apparently
00:50:34
well that's that's zero points for me this week oh Mac two zero points for me this week I'm really disappointed in myself well that's fine I still get to pit Mac uh that's been it for this week
00:50:47
appreciate you watching and listening and of course we're checking out the links in the description as we always put
00:50:53
um don't make fun of me too much for missing both the contribute questions this week yeah uh and uh we'll see you
00:50:58
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