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David by the way did we mention he's not in this week because he's watching the robot movie over and over we listen to
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you guys you you really you really lit us up for that one so we told him to to go home we told him to turn we told him to go back to the movie theater and just watch that movie
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over and over and over again until he agrees with you so um that'll be the first hour of next week is him talking
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about what he learned from that yeah and apologizing profusely yo what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm Marquez and I'm Andrew and David not
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here this week he is rewatching the wild robot movie a whole bunch of times to try to get a better understanding clearly the first watch wasn't enough for him so he's he's out watching that a
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whole bunch more times um so I think we're actually going to have uh some some special guests AKA familiar guests filling in and seat starting with Adam
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Adam first don't we have an Applause uh sound we we could just wait acoustic Applause wait no I wasn't ready I have this welcome welcome
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welcome welcome to the Pod welcome back be here thanks guys glad to be here go we're ready so uh yeah in this this first episode we're going to take a look at the Huawei mate X here in hand we
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have one now I'm so excited very excited I've just taken it out the box so these are like real true First Impressions uh
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we also are going to make some predictions about Tesla's Robo taxi event despite the fact that we're recording it before the event but you're
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going to be listening to it after the event so you can see exactly how smart or dumb we sound in real time but also
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there's some other stuff we got to experience meta's Orion glasses finally and Ellis is going to step in because he also got to experience that with us so I heard there was a crazy game of ping
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pong involved uh not so much ping but yes P there was uh that'll make more sense later it's also fresh on our minds because we essentially just landed and got back to the studio so uh might have
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been a dream fever dream not sure yet we'll see uh but first the headline I have in front of me is epic beats Google and third party app stores are now allowed is this real life yes I guess
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who knows with laws and judge judges and stuff but I'm I'm going to do a a very quick breakdown of this because a lot happened but we've previously covered uh like a bunch of like epic versus Apple
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epic versus Google right um it's been going on for a super long time but there's this pretty big uh decision made
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recently where uh there's a ruling that in the Epic versus Google case that Google App Store is now considered a legal Monopoly yeah and because of that there's a lot of changes that they will
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have to make um so for the next 3 years not only does Google have to allow uh the the Play Store needs to allow third party app stores but they also need to give those third part app stores
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full access to the catalog of Google Play apps which is a step I wasn't expecting which is kind of wild so like if you decide you want to use the epic app store that app store has to have
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full access to Google Play apps whether those develop there is an option for developers to opt out like Gmail like
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anything you can get on the App Store I think it access into its catalog to be able to download those things from that
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um also a couple other things first of all this is us only and this is not on the Apple App Store this is only on Google phones Play Store yeah um so
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here's another couple things that need to change and this is starting in November and going on for three years they can't require apps to use Google
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Play billing so right now pretty much if you want to purchase anything in an app you have to use the Google Play billing
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yep that is not a requirement anymore more developers are allowed to have alternate ways to pay from within the
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Play Store developers are allowed to link alternate ways to download apps outside of the play store they're not
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allowed to offer money Google is not allowed to offer money or perks to launch apps exclusively inside of the
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play store or even play store first they're not allowed Google's not allowed to offer money or perks to LA to not launch in thirdparty app stores so they can't pay people to say you please don't
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go to that App Store you can't even offer you can't even offer um and uh they're not allowed to offer
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Google or phone manufacturers or carriers money to have the Play Store pre-installed on phones there's there's
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a couple other things those were kind of the big ones that I saw um but like feels like they thought of everything
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even with all of that said I think epic still wanted a little more they wanted six years instead of three years um and
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there's a couple other small things but I guess the real tldr of this is that epic proved that Google's creat so many
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different deals between developers carriers and device makers that the judge deemed it impossible for any other
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rival app stores to compete against them which impossible it made it very very difficult and worth this lawsuit happening yeah yeah um Google's obviously appealing um but which is why
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I said like is this real I have no idea with the court system um but it seems like a not just a huge one for epic but
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I guess a huge Lo for Google yeah Google actually they released a Blog statement
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on I think the keyword which is like their internal blog or whatever can I read my favorite line from sure cuz it is they're so salty and it fles the
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decision rests on a flawed finding that Android is a market in itself in contrast the Apple decision upheld on
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appeal rightly found that Android and iOS compete in the same Market this is obvious to anyone who has bought a
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smartphone walk to a store that sells smartphones and you'll see the options side by side it's a true true statement
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I like how they're basically like they're mad no y'all everything you said Is Right within Android but don't forget
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app yeah yeah um yeah it sounds like and you know maybe this is just me reading it over pretty quickly that like a lot of the reasons this was found in the
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Google lawsuit and not the Apple lawsuit is because of all the kind of shady stuff they did of like offering money to
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be Play Store exclusive and like devices to have play stores prein like they just have so much money anyone else can't
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really compete with them including Amazon has an app store and they've haven't been able to compete so well I
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think Amazon hasn't been able to compete for different reasons what are the like their app
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store is garbage Gage well that's why this thing in here about needing to require the catalog is huge bro what are
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you talk the Amazon app store is fire damn that's good if I was over there I would like stick over there
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um the last thing I just want to say unless you guys have any other questions is um if you want like an actual really
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in-depth article about this Sean Hollister from The Verge wrote a great piece that not only explains it way better than we are here but has links
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because he's been covering this for so long he was in the courtroom I believe for the majority of this trial um he has
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a ton of really really in-depth information about all of this so highly suggest looking at that you
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guys did miss one really important detail about all this which is when the judge like delivered the verdict all of
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the Epic lawyers stood up and did fortnite dances and when the judge struck his gavel he said Victory Royale
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smack we need an AI to create too bad there's no footage of this just drawings like drawings of Tim Sweeney flossing on the yeah naturally I would love that I
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can't believe this all started with remember like that video that they launched like two years ago that we the
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apple one yeah that's crazy it did say in here that like this kind of all stemmed from the very
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purposeful play of telling people to buy skins outside of it knowing that both of
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these companies would be upset with that check and and seeing yep they were playing two chess boards and they checkmated one and got mated on the other got mated on the other sorry I got
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very distracted because uh uh did you know okay so this this quote that you put in the dock was in italics MH and did you know that if you put an emoji in
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italics it oh wait what no you see this yeah it's like a slanted I didn't know you could do italics emojis sorry I was
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very distra can you bold nothing happens oh whoops I paced it oh command B oh wait no it got a
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little bigger see it did you mention that we all slept on an airplane last night I'm I am slept as a bold word yeah
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all over the place also wait I was going to I was going to say something else I for got my brain is all dude this is awesome over the place what was I about
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to say okay we're talking about the phone and we're talking about oh did you guys see that YouTube shorts are going to be 3 minutes long oh yo in like a
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couple of days YouTube's going to finally have up to three minute long shorts that doesn't mean anything that's
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previously 3 minutes or less will be a short that means anything from that point on uploaded in vertical that's under 3 minutes can be triggered into
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the shorts feed if you want to uh big news for some people wait when you say if you want to does that mean
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that if I have something that's 2 minutes I'm going to have to check a box that says make this a short specifically or will it autod detect it like it does
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now it will autod detect it like it does now but if you don't want it to be a short you don't have to oh because obviously monetization for shorts is
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still dog water yeah so if you have a three-minute video you might decide you want to just have it as a regular
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3-minute video um but if it is a vertical 2minute 45 second video it will automatically trigger as a short which
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could be great for Discovery it's great for us it makes me think of now all creators that I watch that do shorts how
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that affects them like you know Forest who does the car videos he he just absolutely nail all the features of a
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car in Rapid speed yeah and now he has three minutes to play with does the style change doing Leo Abrams too she
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has like a really great crazy visuals yeah like the visuals are now three times as long work oh I think it'll
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still favor like Tik Tok has 10 minutes now but I feel like the stuff you get served more is shorter so I do think it's going to be super beneficial for People Like Us who you know we cutting
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out a couple lines um internet Shaquille made a great point about it once where he was like I wish it was 90 seconds
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because when I'm cutting down to 60 generally the line I have to take out like is a context line and it's like the
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one line I have to sacrifice is now 60% of the comments like why didn't you say this part or like I don't understand
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it's because of that so I do think it's going to favor the people who are still around that 90c Mark but at least we'll
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be able to get in that like one extra thing we were dying to say and we're really hurting to cut out so we're
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working on a short for uh autofocus that's like 3 minutes long um I regularly hit 59 seconds and change with our main Channel shorts and I am
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constantly cutting like the air like as I breathe between words like I'm cutting that out to hit 60 seconds so this will
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be awesome I don't think I'm gonna make I say this now but I don't think I'm gonna make three minute shorts I think
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I'm gonna make 90c to two minute shorts just because we have the time now in the same make it a short it's gonna be long
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it's gonna be three full minutes now what are we calling them long shorts shorts mids I'm calling them Capri I don't know about you um I like it feels
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right all right all of you are way more creative than I feels right uh let's get to what bring out the Trumble pH this is
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the Huawei mate XT and you might remember it by name as that weird triple folding phone that the CEO is walking around with not too long ago there's a little story behind this phone I mean you've seen dual screen not dual screen
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you've seen folding screen phones before folding flipping all sorts of companies
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are making them now we just reviewed the pixel fold uh this one it folds twice that's that's the whole story it's a huawe phone though so it's China only so we had to really work
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to get our hands on it shout out to dbrand anytime I ask them if can get their hands on something they always
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pull it off and I never ask questions is that the reason you were on a plane you were coming back yeah that's what no but
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it was it was basically just like we bought it we sent them the money for it and they just found one and got it to us
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so this is it can I pose a question out there for our audience to help us out M why is it called trifold like this is not just a thing for this phone it's
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like trifolds are a type of pamphlet but they have two folds and three sections so is just mean try as an amount of sections and that they fold or I always assumed it was in reference to wallets
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like a trifold wallet has two folds and three sections a bfold has one crease in two sections wow am I just like thinking
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too literally about this like saying the Try by is representing the fold or are they like no if you were thinking
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literally it would have to be that because you're trying to fold the phone ah excellent point Thank no I think your
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Latin is correct which is byold byold means two folds trifold means three folds like the prefix suggests there's three folds there isn't it's just but why is naming it correctly this is how
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like every pamphlet is called everyone's calling the trifold okay someone help us out in the here's how it works because
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we tried to describe this on video last time and it went haywire right so it looks like an S when it's when you're
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when it's folded actually a z it looks like a z so from the front you can use it as a single screen phone matter of
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fact I'll light it up bang There It Is single screen phone regular Spike ratio I think it's a 6 feels like about a 6.8 in screen like it's a full sizee screen
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but let's say you want twice as much screen you actually then open to that so you no longer use the front screen I already missed this can
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you do that again yes okay it's like a magic trick right first screen you totally bypass the first screen into
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your second two screens nice okay yes your the fold the top part of the fold your fold out is a fold so you're going onto the farthest back screen now is
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open yes M so you've seen all three screens now you've seen the first screen and you've seen the second two screens but if you want all three screens then you have to unfold this is the harder
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one first screen from the back you're doing great sweetie yes that looks hard but I appreciate how uh the third screen
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damn that looks so good wait that look pretty that's so sick number one impression I had was it's a little bit smaller than I originally pictured like I thought I think I it's like a 10in
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diagonal yeah and I was picturing iPad but there's like no bezels so it kind of feels smaller than an iPad it's more
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like iPad Minish it's closer to an iPad mini but I bet if we put it next to an iPad Mini a dwarf's an iPad Mini uh here
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we go vertical in case you were wondering that's oh my go wait why does that look so much better it's massive
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that's a lot of icons that's a lot of space okay now that's like an older iPad mini is a big tablet so you have this in
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your pocket and you you can do all kinds of things you can multitask across them my second impression was that the
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creases are not bad no not at all no and like they have a black wallpaper yeah they're hiding them well but I can't see
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them from this angle yeah I think my first impression from you holding it is my number one worry of this was now with
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two folds when it's straight how straight is it going to feel and how solid that looks like totally pretty
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flat yeah totally flat I'm really impressed by that yeah so my third and final impression is I don't remember
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which one it was but maybe a year or two ago there was a wedge shaped foldable and that had most of the weight in your
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right hand this kind of feels like that again this huge camera bump is like most of the weight and the rest of the phone
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is very thin but yes oh that's yeah it's a rocker when it's on the table but I'll
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let you uh play with and unfold I'm going to give you the the M XT oh man the honor first I want to hold it up
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next to honor is a different phone holding up next to my Sor I'm tired six this definitely feels chunkier mhm
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and it's way more square but then again the fold six is like very narrow the fold so the Samsung zold 6 is notably
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like skinnier and thicker wait that's is that thinner than the fold oh now with the camera bump yeah let me take off the
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uh My Little Mac saave thing putting them next to each other no okay never mind it's close but
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the triple is a little thicker triple's a little thicker but it's very close interesting okay anyway o i I don't know
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how I feel about this on the right side being rounded out but I guess that's the only way that they can make that work
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obviously oo this is so nice though oh my God wait can you compare it single fold open next years to the fold six yeah so the dual screen mode or you know
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2/3 mode I guess I would call it is like the same size as a zold it's just a little tall slightly taller wait let me hold it up to the camera uh if you're listening in audio you're not missing
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much it's pretty much the same size it's very similar to a fold six yeah don't even go to the video for this part maybe
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later but then you open the then see go to the video for this part then you open it up and o oh you can feel the hinge
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though if you like when you're opening it as you pull it open yeah as you pull it so I guess I bet you're not supposed
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to Anchor your hand there I bet you're supposed to like sort of pry into the corner and like pull it out open by the
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outside edge this is sick does it does it have like a YouTube kickstand mode like the other ones just put a MAG in the software no no no like you know how with like other folding phones you can
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like sort of semi fold it and then like eat your lunch alone and watch some YouTube videos I don't know yeah okay
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can confirm you can take pictures like you do with an iPad with this giant phone and it's awesome is there a selfie
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camera anywhere inside the one of those three screens or is it just the outside yes and it highlights it there's like a
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little animation that shows okay so it's on the primary screen yeah gotcha all right I'm going to close it now and give
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this to Andrew I'm the funny thing about this is I like made Brandon set up a set
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so we could unbox this on camera because I'm assuming we're doing a video on this and I wanted to talk about it on the Pod
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and I was like oh yeah it's red the phone yeah you can make a red background so if the top down set for unboxing doesn't match that's my fault just no I the box was red the box was red so I
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assumed it was red but yeah I think there was a red version but yeah there I think there's a red like it has the like faux leather back
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this hexagon camera bump it's so the camera bump is gigantic this is a heavy phone it is a topheavy phone as I almost drop it yeah it is the camera of an octagon it is yeah eight signs it's an
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octagon we shouldn't have to think about this it doesn't have sharp edges it's like very rounded off so it's little
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weird end yeah it's an what cuz a square circle is a square squircle what is a circled octagon a sagon a sagon no wait
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no that's a square octagon an OCT an an octal that's it it that's what it is said that's going in the review that's um yeah this is thick a couple I don't
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mind the the rounded Edge right here I'll give you a couple other interesting specs about it obviously the video is in the works so you guys should you know
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watch that for all of the details on this thing 5600 milliamp battery total which for a folding phone is relatively high but for a 10-in screen is
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relatively low mhm uh for context like the Samsung super thin 10-in tablet has a 10,000 mAh battery so that's an interesting spec uh it charges crazy
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fast it came with an 88 watt car charger in the Box dang oh that's pretty cool to
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see that it fast charges that's awesome um 16 gigs of RAM and a terabyte of storage no water or dust resistance at
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all I can't it comes with a terabyte of storage like Bas I don't think that's Bas okay I will double check but a terab
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of storage is in fact based it is it is based but is it the base spec I don't think it is because you're paying how
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much is those okay so that's another interesting spec roughly $3,500 us is the equivalent but we ended up spending way more to acquire and import this um
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but that's roughly how much it goes for if you trans if you convert yeah so yeah
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yeah it's expensive it's more than a dual screen dual fold I keep saying dual fold as if that's what we call so like
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this is a terab ver I love the Dual fold like I love the pixel 9 Pro fold but this is just a totally different phone it's crazy and then each of the each of the bills is so thin yo can I say some
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of the animations on here are fantastic yeah I went hard with look at the like opening it from the normal fold and
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everything slides out from the left yeah and then when you go all the way open the dots for like what page you're on Slide by two because it's opening two
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pages at this time and then the like back that pops out wherever you're doing it in this like fun little blob the back gesture the back gesture from the side of the screen is Huawei great job it's a
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2232 by 3184 full resolution so it's like a 3K by 2K that's another thing the thumbnail right there that's another thing you can do is you can have it partially open not
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quite stand up by itself and yeah it's a 6.4 in uh screen if you just use it like a single screen phone so can I peel this
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screen protector off I would not do that actually triggered I've had some experiences with that yeah I would not
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do that quite yet but yeah it's a it's a weird one how are you going to use this
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well first I'm going to try to use it like a regular phone then I'm going to see what the software features will allow it to do that even a dual screen
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phone can't do or a dual fold I keep calling it a dual screen what a what a normal fold cannot do but you can't put
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this on a on AT&T or horizon or something oh as far as dailying it uh I don't think so I mean this is a Huawei
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phone with no Google Play services or probably even the correct bands to drop my SIM card in here like I have an AT&T SIM but I typically don't put them in Huawei phones so I will be using this
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kind of like a tablet basically but but you can like I could make a phone call like this though
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hello just the straight tablet to your ear new phone who it is that's what celebrities use
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for paparazzi they they just talk on the phone with a completely open trifold and
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it just covers up their entire face from the photographers when they reboot the Pink Panther again they're going to have
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him like covering his face with instead of newspaper he thought the pro Max was big I know this is intimidating to get a
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photo taken of you with it's like an iPad like I feel like I'm looking at an iPad yeah like an older iPad but it says
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Huawei ultimate design on the back instead this is just so much sof dude wait can I see it standing in like vertical for some reason that looks cooler to me yeah it definitely looks
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cooler and vertical this feels more tablety this is the dream right am I am I the only one that feels like this is
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the dream Ella says do you know who you're talking to right now this is one step closer we're dude
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we're so CL this is 50% closer than we've ever been I I couldn't agree more then the next version almost just I
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almost just bent it the wrong way you do have to think about which way you're Folding It All right so what they
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need to do next is fold open fold open and then this folds up oh my God and then you've got double screen real estate the commitment is real I mean this is essentially a square when it's
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two so the fold six zold six basically a square I this obviously you know is kind of the
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first generation which is crazy to think that this is like the first gen of the I know didn't TCL make like a a trifold
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and there have been a couple proty this like ultimately getting to the point of being able to hold it like
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this is what I would want in a folding phone it's probably like vertical instead of horizontal you yeah like
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vertical instead of portrait or instead of landscape and oh man all the Tik Tok I could watch on this but few a few years when this is cheaper and if anyone
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decides to go it that's what I think I would jump into a folding phone for decade over all the regular folds
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straight to the duel yeah all right well stay tuned for the full video obviously these are like super early first looks
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but I want to play with this a lot more and get you guys super high-res detailed looks at this thing um we should take a
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quick break we got a lot more to talk about including some smart glasses but before we do that oh you have the smart
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glasses oh no these are oh I just picked up the ray band metas that I have because I think they look cool nice but
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we should also uh we should do [Music] trivia trivia dude I'm G to have Ellis ask the glasses directly go ahead before we get into trivia okay I
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was trying to see if an OCT tural is a real thing and Marquez I think I found something that is going to ruin your life which is called OCT Turtle okay and
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OCT turtle is I played that oh yeah it's a game it did ruin my life briefly it is
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eight games of wle that you play simultaneously know about this I've heard of it first
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there was wle then there was Dort then there was qule remember the song one there was like music there was herle
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hurle hurle which was fun there was like a bunch of clones after Wordle for like the next two months all doing a bunch of
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different things it's no one remembers Mastermind that's because it's not named in a way that's easy to remember but
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that's the game that wle is a clone of oh we don't know what what is that then it's w should I Google wasn't that
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like a British thing though masterm it's a board yeah anyway without further [Music]
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Ado Marquez I'm going to let you keep the glasses on but I'm watching you okay also look so sick though this this question is for you specifically oh my God I'm gonna get a point I hope maybe
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Marquez uhhuh and everyone else except Adam except me because I know Andrew what animal has a faster recorded pop speed wow the leopard tortoise wow
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or the slow loris I thought that would be a very different set of answers okay I'll think
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about that one the leopard tortois or the slow loris I like how they rhyme good job
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thank you one of them has a fast name one of them has a slow name well leard think about Le yeah interesting all
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right I'll ponder that answer is at the end like usual we'll be right back [Music]
00:27:37
all right welcome back we are back from California literally just got back from an overnight flight that's why we look so fresh and so clean uh from meta where
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we actually got a late look but also an early look at the Orion glasses I'm saying a late look because other people have already seen it and I was in Australia when they asked if I wanted see it but then I kept expressing interest and they're like do you still
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want to see it and I was like yeah and so now I'm going to see it these are products that are never coming out but that initially had intentions of
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coming out which is a set of full augmented reality smart glasses from meta and they aren't quite like anything we've ever seen just to sort of lay the background of what this actually is I am
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currently wearing uh the existing Rayban meta smart glasses there is no display to these glasses there's just a camera speakers batteries headphones I can talk
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to it and AI will talk back to me in my ear great but if I want to see anything I can't if I want to yeah look at my answer instead of have it read back to me I can't then if you remember Google
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Glass from 8 to 10,000 years ago never heard of it Google Glass ahead of its time as I always say uh actually had a display up in the corner of your field
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of view so there was a little projector and a little prism and it would project text and graphics and actual answers to Googled queries in the corner of your
00:29:08
field of view so it wouldn't be overlaid over your real world but anytime you look up into that corner of your vision
00:29:15
you could see what it's displaying not quite AR but a step in the right direction and then you have something like you know a quest or a Vision Pro
00:29:26
which is a full-on virtual reality headset this completely covers your vision and puts displays in front of
00:29:31
your eyes and will either show you a new world or show you with pass through your
00:29:37
existing world through cameras I think hi I'm here on the yeah Ellis is in the hot SE I think
00:29:45
uh thank you is that only playing out of his computer it is forgot to set the we still heard it we're tired oh god um okay uh I noticed the all the meta
00:29:58
Executives only referred to the quests as Mr they really did not want to call it VR which is different VR and apple
00:30:05
calls The Vision Pro spatial Computing and I've given up trying to use all their fancy names they're virtual
00:30:11
reality headsets they just are anyway the point is we haven't seen an AR glasses thing actually working up until now but what this is is essentially
00:30:22
special lenses that can overlay anywhere in your field of view it's almost anywhere in front of your actual field of view and tracked onto the
00:30:34
actual real world in front of you so if you think of uh my best analogy is like uh headphones that are noise cancelling that have like a transparency mode so
00:30:46
you have regular music playing and then you have the noise cancelling and you just hear the music and then you turn transparency mode on and it feeds in the
00:30:52
real world through microphones that's a VR headset this is open back headphones this is your actual real world with graphics overlaid on top of
00:31:04
it and there's a lot of computing and a lot of physics and a lot of material science and chemistry that goes into
00:31:11
making this happen and that is all going to be broken down in a video that we are working on it is fascinating stuff but
00:31:17
at the end of the day we all got to try it and see what today's version of that Tech looks like and maybe we should go
00:31:25
over each of our thoughts and uh Impressions from those those couple hours we spent do
00:31:31
it I guess I'll start with like what did they actually look like um because we've
00:31:36
seen like prototypes and we've seen you know magic leap and we've seen other things that look very much like a
00:31:43
prototype yeah in video they look pretty massive yeah they're I think you bringing the meta Ray bands in is a
00:31:50
really good just like starting point or reference of these things from anything we've seen of a Ed AR glasses like a hollow lens or a magic leap mhm are
00:32:02
Miles Ahead of that um even they look even more like glasses than nreal glasses yeah which crazy I do think one
00:32:09
thing they kept saying is like these are glasses you can tell these are glasses and I I do think that's true they are
00:32:15
thick they are not even really like when you look at the rayb band glasses which are actually thicker than regular rayb
00:32:22
bands at least in the stems the ear I don't know what you call the side parts we googled this when this came out and I
00:32:29
forgot the name arms the arms arms I forget um but they're significantly bigger I was kind of relating them to if anyone's watched shits Creek like something David Rose would wear maybe um
00:32:41
like maybe thicker and there's definitely types of glasses where people use thicker frames
00:32:48
um I don't think these would pass off as regular glasses to anyone yet not quite
00:32:54
they're close if you were a sufficiently eccentric individual fair then I could see someone being like Oh you chose
00:33:00
crazy glasses but yeah I agree most part and I think what's going to be hard about talking about these is I have I
00:33:07
can't quite figure out what I think about them because in like one hand what they've done to achieve that
00:33:14
is like wild like they what they they've put inside of the that small form factor
00:33:21
is so crazy but they still are definitely quite a bit away from being just replacing a pair of classes to feeling like a regular pair of classes um so I feel like I'm going to go back
00:33:33
and forth this whole time of being like this was one of the wildest Things I've ever seen to like it's not really that
00:33:38
close yet yeah I think but yeah both can be true I think uh we we lived through the boom of smartphones we went from not having real smartphones to having the first gen smartphones which were kind of
00:33:50
rough but kind of revolutionary in the in the input and then having the smartphones we have today which are
00:33:56
amazing and you can kind of look at this as like the beginning of smartphones again for this form factor the
00:34:02
resolution was not great it was kind of pixelated there were you know flares and
00:34:08
different like lights that kind of sort of bled through the the wave guides like it wasn't perfectly transparent all the
00:34:14
time it was a little bit tinted there were things that didn't track perfectly there were things in input that weren't
00:34:21
extremely responsive but the fact that I was looking through clear glass at actual
00:34:28
overlaid graphics on top of the world in front of me not glass not glass sorry silicon carbide that was amazing and that felt like the Revolutionary part in
00:34:39
the in the same way that maybe multi-touch on a glass screen was revolutionary for smartphone before we go too far into this can we say that and
00:34:46
they've said this but it was a product that they were pretty close on letting consumers have and then decided to keep it as an internal development prototype
00:34:56
I think the phrasing would be they initially intended this to be but it not close they mentioned that they wanted to
00:35:02
iterate it one or two more times uh which is so cool of you guys I honestly think it was like it's the right decision no no it was one it was a great decision we've had a such a year of
00:35:16
companies releasing things that are not ready or Worse saying they're going to release something that's not ready and
00:35:21
then taking seven years and still not releasing it so for them to be like show and tell see you soon yes it's
00:35:28
interesting cuz some companies you would you would probably not want that from like uh I've heard a lot of chatter and
00:35:34
seen some post about how like apple would never do this apple would never show us something on stage like a
00:35:42
presentation and then be like but we're not selling this to anyone no one can ever have it just it would be a weird thing for them to do they love to finish
00:35:48
something before they sell it um but for meta the benefit for them well that's a rare a rare Miss but air I think for
00:35:56
meta they're their benefit is they get to show that they are a leader in this space and maybe for some companies
00:36:03
watching they're like oh look how far they've gotten we haven't thought of that there are some interesting things here uh so it is cool that they are
00:36:10
actually presenting something that they've been working on yeah I think people like there are people who want to
00:36:17
try new revolutionary things that would pay for that and probably pay a wild amount but I don't think enough people
00:36:23
that would make it worth it and I think keeping it as this internal test device so they can make it the iterations
00:36:30
better CU we got to see some photos of like the old iterations that looked like you're Master Chief yeah um or like a one of the like
00:36:38
saw torture devices like on their heads um and the fact that how quickly they've gotten to this mistaka glasses form
00:36:46
factor is really impressive and and solved solved in air quotes in air quotes uh a lot of the other kind of things that hold a lot of these back like the fact that the puck is
00:37:00
Wireless pretty yeah I should mention I should mention there's some things that come with the glasses experience yeah so
00:37:05
there are the glasses that you're wearing that have a ton of compute in them sensors cameras speakers Etc but
00:37:10
there is also two other things one is there is a separate computer about the size of a smartphone that is wirelessly connected to it via Wi-Fi 6 I believe it
00:37:22
would fit snugly in a glasses case without much air and that is doing a lot of the app logic that is a separate computer that's wirelessly connected must be within about 10 to 15t of it at
00:37:33
all times and there is also a separate input device it can do hand tracking and eye tracking but there's also a bracelet that uses a technology called
00:37:45
electromyography and to I guess oversimplify what it's doing is you put this bracelet on and it's essentially
00:37:52
reading the electrical signals as they fire through the nerves in your rist so that when you make different gestures and scroll and do things with your arms and
00:38:03
hands it tells that as it translates that as input into the glass's UI it's crazy it was the most impressive thing we saw it was pretty cool it I couldn't
00:38:14
cuz you got to try a prototype of it a very long time ago years ago and even them like tell you hear it reading elect like electric connection between your
00:38:25
muscles or whatever and no no matter what company is that is you're like all right okay I don't think I used it for
00:38:33
10 15 minutes maybe I can't think of a single time it didn't correctly trigger the thing I was trying to do according
00:38:40
to them they feel like they can progress the technology to the point where they can recognize your handwriting solely by
00:38:47
monitoring the different electrical paths running through your forearm which is that to me seems insane that is crazy
00:38:54
yeah that is what it did to me seemed insane already I was really impressed so it is it did have a little haptic feedback it's like the size of a smartwatch band it would tap the back of your wrist as you did inputs so it sort
00:39:07
of confirmed that you were doing what you were doing but yeah it literally like pinch your finger in midair behind your back totally out of view of the
00:39:13
glasses and it would pick it up because it's reading the electrical inputs through your wrist really impressive can
00:39:20
I ask a question yeah the the information flow I'm assuming would go from The Wristband to the puck to the
00:39:26
glasses The Wristband is actually also directly connected to the glasses this time via Bluetooth I thought The Wristband was connected to the puck via Bluetooth and the glasses were connected
00:39:37
to the puck via Wi-Fi yeah but they have I mean there's a ton of custom silicon in here to make all the sensors work
00:39:43
there's a ton of like they split up the batteries in the different parts of the arm of the band to keep it better balanced the whole thing weighs under
00:39:50
100 gram under 50 g no no these are the 50 g they said they're standard they want to be under for glasses and that but this was under 100 oh was it they
00:40:01
said that these were 40 my bad so yeah it's they're super super cool so I here's the three things that they let me do with the glasses because you might be wondering okay you have this crazy Tech
00:40:12
it does something with your input cool what do you actually do with it the software is not even done yet it's not really a full OS but I did three things
00:40:19
one was a sort of a regular multitasking experience like sitting on a couch open up a window watch some Instagram reels
00:40:27
open up a browser watch the hot ones episode wait wait wait wait wait yes exactly you heard that right yep there
00:40:34
is an Instagram app for a device that does not exist and not the iPad honestly I love the level of petty that's so funny Adam let's talk we actually we walked we were walking to Jack In The
00:40:46
Box as Californians do and we walked past we were just walking and I noticed on the map it said Instagram HQ and we all looked at the building and then could see the meta headquarters and we're like that is a lean bu building
00:40:58
that is a smaller building so maybe I do believe them relatively speaking smaller than the meta HQ um but yeah no I these
00:41:05
were Windows floating in the air in front of me tracked over my actual environment so I was looking at the
00:41:11
actual couch and the actual people around me but then right in between them there was a translucent like browser
00:41:16
window with a hot winds episode playing that I was watching and no one could see what I was watching because it just
00:41:22
looks like I'm wearing glasses and there's some little glints of purple every now and then but you really can't see or hear unless you have the volume
00:41:28
all the way up what I'm actually doing how did it look did it look like a screen or was it like a weird projection
00:41:34
thing or it the thing that it reminded me I mean I don't think you've ever seen this but it had sort of looked similar
00:41:40
to the Samsung transparent microed displays with a much lower resolution oh I have seen those CS it also had a
00:41:47
similar fraying around the edges to those spinning transparent displays do you know what I'm talking like the single band of LEDs that spin so fast and form a continuous like that is honestly the the display
00:41:59
technology that I would compare it most to visually yeah okay there was some chat from meta about how you know these
00:42:05
are internal so we we knew we could have we could have actually doubled the resolution at the expense of thermals but we didn't you could tell it was
00:42:11
pretty low resolution um but just in general the fact that I was moving Windows around I was multitasking I was
00:42:18
just with natural input sort of dragging things around resizing windows in a very
00:42:23
similar way honestly to Vision Pro like it had similar UI elements like Clos window x's and like grab the tab at the
00:42:29
bottom move the window I'll have a screen recording that I think will be in the main video as well so you can see
00:42:35
sort of what I saw when I was doing this the second thing that I tried was looking at a bunch of ingredients on a table and asking meta's AI to tell me
00:42:48
something that I could make with them um a very contrived demo if I'm being honest like it's a bag of dates that said dates and all caps on it like how hard could that be but what I found
00:42:58
interesting was it looked at all the things and then it dropped a pin a little glowing pin on each of those
00:43:04
things and so I moved my head around and I looked around the room and I looked back and each of those was glowing in
00:43:09
track in real time MH I thought that was super cool uh and then it would tell me yeah you can make a smoothie which yeah
00:43:15
no that's what you're supposed to do with it's always a smoothie or an omelet yeah you can make an omelette trust me
00:43:21
um drink omelette the last but I think that was most impressive to me because of the tracking like the dots were track
00:43:27
over the objects which is cool the last thing was games actually they built a couple games which is cool one of them
00:43:33
was like a head tracked uh Space Fighter like asteroids 3D Asteroids game it was kind of like in a tunnel so you would move your head around and actually dodg
00:43:44
things I'm sure you looked real dumb like this with glasses on where no one can see what you're doing but you're
00:43:49
playing a game and the other was actually a multiplayer game this it kind of broke my brain I I it was super low res it was super low
00:44:00
Fidelity but just the fact that you could do it so easily uh was amazing to me two people with the Orion glasses on
00:44:06
at once both stare at a QR code in the room that QR code becomes the placement lock for where the game appears so that's all you have to do imagine like
00:44:18
I've been talking about this with Vision Pro there's no shared experiences in quite the same way you don't share the same virtual space in Vision Pro but
00:44:25
this is in your real physical space a QR code look at the table you enter the shared space with that person the game
00:44:31
pops up and it's pong and you your hand is tracked to the paddle and you just play 3D pong back and forth in this little tunnel I already have so many questions so simple of a concept it's
00:44:45
low res like you can just break it easily by turning your head too fast like if your hand's not close enough you
00:44:51
can miss like it you could get out of the immersion of it but the fact that in 10 seconds you could set it up and share
00:44:57
this Invisible game that no one else in the room can see that to me was like oh there's something here this is this is
00:45:03
really cool the fact that you can do this at all but what go ahead what questions I have all the answers so two
00:45:09
sets of Orion glasses right y each with their own puck or connected to the same Puck each with their own Puck each with
00:45:15
their own Puck okay next question when you're playing pong is there like a z axis yes yes there is so this imagine a
00:45:23
like a rectangular prism between me and you and the ball is like bouncing cross in through the prism to you and you hit
00:45:29
it back and it bounces across to me and I just hit it back to you can it go up like on the Y access yes yeah damn yeah
00:45:37
it's pretty cool it's a pretty fun game yeah so they're they're kind of explaining like the typical imagin
00:45:43
scenarios for shared gaming like they brought up chess a lot and it turns out chess isn't a great example because there's all these little pieces and
00:45:49
there the board has to be flat and it kind of doesn't really work that well you kind of want it to be like vertical in front of the two players what about
00:45:56
life- siiz chest um or even vertical chests like you could just flip the board vertically I
00:46:01
think it be easier but like I think Adam's talking about Harry Potter not me I didn't even think that but yes that
00:46:08
they just kind of made these sort of retro feeling games because the Nostalgia is most uh Universal and just
00:46:14
looks and fits with the resolution the best probably also definitely yeah yeah I'm super down for any arcade style
00:46:20
games like that in AR that would be sick cool yeah I want to play Pac-Man on that I think you're running away from man oh
00:46:27
my God I think one cool thing we learned in the pong demo which was when Ellis went to play against Marquez first they did a really cool so there's multiple ways to interact with the classes the
00:46:39
the best way is with the wristband and what it does is it has eye tracking so that's how you're selecting things and
00:46:45
then you're using your hand motions to select to bring up menus to scroll with this cool like quarter flip like if
00:46:52
you're flipping a coin on your hand that's how you scroll that's the gesture but
00:46:58
if you want there's also is hand gestures and the calibration needed is like you can hand off a pair of glasses
00:47:04
to someone without doing a full calibration and still have fairly accurate uh controls so like Ellis took
00:47:11
a pair of glasses didn't calibrate wasn't wearing the wrist strap and just through hand movement and the eye
00:47:17
tracking which comes from the side one thing I found interesting and never thought about is ey tracking on AR
00:47:22
glasses is so much harder because in VR they can essentially put the camera lenses directly in front of your eyes
00:47:29
can't do that when it's a clear p through so they need to come from the side and they were I thought they were
00:47:34
pretty accurate you know one of the things we asked them was like if you the the quests do all the hand tracking
00:47:41
stuff and there's this EMG bracelet is not a part of that so why did you feel the need to add like a second sensor
00:47:47
when the hand there are more gestures but they're not like crazy complicated gestures and one of the they brought up
00:47:53
a bunch of reasons why they like having uh like a multimodal experience for that but one of the things they brought up is
00:47:59
in the final product form of this you should just be able to take off your glasses put them on someone else and
00:48:04
they should have the experience like they should you don't need to take off The Wristband you don't need to like googly the eyes around like just you're
00:48:12
in do they mean like way down the line or they mean the consumer version that's coming in a couple years no comment I
00:48:19
think it's a general but it was the first time I ever put the smart glasses on I did go
00:48:26
through an eye tracking calibration um but it seemed to be not like super necessary like I think it would still work because it's still going to be Those sensors on each side
00:48:38
just looking at your eyeball but I think that was just for maximum accuracy but yeah the idea is yeah you can just hands some on the glasses they can see what
00:48:44
you see and you can just use your hands and just jump right in and the benefit of the sorry The Wristband is hand
00:48:50
tracking always needs to be in front of you right The Wristband lets you do things like super discreetly essentially
00:48:57
so you don't have to be the person these are supposed to be things you wear in the everyday world it's a little stranger when you're in the grocery
00:49:03
store and all the things you have to do are touched out in front of you you could essentially use this wristband in your pocket if you wanted to and it
00:49:09
would still trigger the the different controls yeah it's fun that would look so much weirder with your pockets in the
00:49:17
G like I'm just trying to say it's but it's true I actually walked out of the room and we had lunch and the entire time I had the wristband on and totally forgot and then I walked back in and they were like we have to put the
00:49:28
band back in you I was like I've had it on this whole time we should explain that it's it's like a slightly thicker
00:49:34
whoop band oh okay yep wait so what's to stop them from using that wristband with these meta Rayband glasses I think in
00:49:41
general this this wristband this input device has the most applicable use for them I think that this is I mean there is no visual component to these so you're not really controlling anything
00:49:53
but I think in general they imagine a variety of form factors in the future theist could be useful the Orion being
00:50:00
one of them maybe something with like a small heads up display in the future kind of like Google ass but more natural
00:50:05
looking could also exist and this wristband could control any of them so thought I thought it was really cool and yeah that that mind-blowing fact Ellis of like theoretically we can read the
00:50:17
electrical impulses through your wrist so accurately that you could just write not even holding a pen just write in
00:50:24
midair and we can pick up what you're writing that's that's like science fiction to me
00:50:31
they also said the same works with typing which both hands yeah and also people type differently I'm realizing so
00:50:38
that that would be hard I want to try that so bad all of the things were theoretical things they didn't even
00:50:45
mention if they were or weren't working on that but it was just like this is the type of technology and how much room for
00:50:50
potential there is for it and if I'm being honest like seeing how well it worked with just a few basic functions
00:50:57
was really impressive yeah that's like one step away from mind reading cuz reading nerve imples five steps away from Wall-E like if you just put that same
00:51:09
technology on the temples by the way I Googled it it's temples or arms for the thing on the glasses that goes over your
00:51:15
ear oh but if you put that same like sensor technology just on those temples you don't even need to move your hands I
00:51:21
thought he been inserted into your temple like so it reads your brain it's reading the neural impulse like
00:51:27
so that's the difference there's different level there's different paths that the electrical signals take I think what we picture like neuralink is like
00:51:33
literally like reading brain activity and that's one thing but I think you can the tendons are like that' be my guess
00:51:40
Skin Deep they're like basically right underneath your skin and you have one per finger yeah it's really it's like
00:51:45
piano strings in your arm where like if you use different fingers it's a very distinct pattern of things that are
00:51:52
happening with the muscles in your wrist so I think that's why it made the most sense like okay if I have a gesture like
00:51:57
this that really fire that looks the same every time to the input device I think um we talk about materials for a
00:52:05
little bit oh yeah they were really stoked on the Material Sciences advances they made in this and I'll be real don't
00:52:12
know a lot about material science uh but one thing I thought was really interesting that they brought up was that um you know we got two eyes
00:52:20
surprise surprise fact some of us uh very true um most of us have two eyes and uh we combine those images to get you know stereoscopic vision and on a VR
00:52:33
headset that that's less of a big deal because you can make it a little heavier you can make it this big solid thing and it's very easy to keep both lenses fixed
00:52:41
in like the exact same position on your eyes glasses on the other hand are much thinner you can't put steel plates in
00:52:47
them they will uh Flex a little bit and the problem is is that when you have these wave guides in front of your eyes
00:52:53
if the glasses Flex even a little bit you begin to see dou your brain merge thees anym and so they were very stoked on the Magnesium frame that they built
00:53:04
for these uh because if I do you remember it was five microns like that that the margin for error between the
00:53:12
two sides it it was something incredibly small like a few microns where if you did torque them torque them uh heavily they wouldn't work very well so they had
00:53:22
to they had to get that rigid like super they were also very excited to be like you know magnesium it's really hard to
00:53:29
make glossy so they're actually naturally matte black because also thermally they needed to do it I believe
00:53:36
they said like cuz they had this version that was a clear plastic so you could see inside it and they were like
00:53:41
thermally the battery life would be like half on this one than the other one because of heat dissipation the Magnesium frame was part structural part
00:53:49
heat sync because of its thermal cap uh thermal properties so interesting there I learned a new word during that briefing arc minutes thank you for explaining it's a radial measurement I
00:54:01
believe it's a it's a 60th of a degree okay it's very funny because Ellis was like how how specific does it have to be
00:54:09
like one 100th of a millimeter and he was like five arc minutes and all of us were like what well then he was like
00:54:16
when you you know reverse the trigonometry do the tangent that equates to about five microns and then I was like I was going to say like I'm pretty
00:54:22
sure you have heard that before cuz that's like trig stuff but you just forgot itz unless
00:54:28
you're hilariously I barely showed up to trigonometry class and then kicked calculus his ass but trigonometry wasn't that much into that one arc minutes is one of those things
00:54:39
that you'll remember for like two months for the test and then after the test you will never need that information again unless you work for meta so yeah I think
00:54:47
that was super cool I think the carbon the silicon carbide wave guides is the other part of the equation um it kind of
00:54:54
brings me to the last major point about these glasses which is kind of what you started with which is okay they're not
00:54:59
ready yet they are not ready for regular customers yet and that comes in the form of one the silicon carbide there is no
00:55:06
supply chain for this there is no optimization process an extremely conductive uh extremely clear when pure
00:55:14
but very difficult to grow uh substance just like all of the what they're doing with it is in order to get this wider
00:55:22
field of view you need it to be super super pure and clear uh and glass doesn't quite in its current stage get that good I think it was less of that glass doesn't get clear enough it's that
00:55:33
glass in the refraction element of it can take in light and create like prism rainbows and then that affects the what you're seeing cuz you're bending the
00:55:45
light so much through this stuff anyway the cost of these lenses is insane and I
00:55:51
think the total cost uh BOS told me would be somewhere in the 20 to 25 ,000 range because these are such low volume it's not a shock that it's expensive but like we're not trying to sell people
00:56:02
$25,000 AR glasses right now that's the first thing the second thing is uh 2H hourish battery life roughly and we could see it and feel it run down it was getting warm on our faces the puck in
00:56:14
our back pocket was like slowly getting warmer but in general like that's another thing it's not ready for the public with a two or three hour battery life and so all these things combined
00:56:25
made it make perfect sense that okay they're not going to ship this to people but they still want something out of the
00:56:31
level of R&D that they got to get to this point so they've packaged it in this really cool way they'll make some
00:56:37
number of them maybe a few hundred or a few thousand and they will use it to work on it iterate it and keep it up for
00:56:42
the next few Generations I think they're years away from this actually being done but it is amazing to see that it's
00:56:50
possible to get this close to the dream yeah I I think like if I had to have my wish list and this is being like super picky wish list of this being a good consumer a really good consumer
00:57:02
product y it needs to be thinner both uh on the T the temples and the actual glass the frames as thinner and lighter battery life definitely needs to be more
00:57:18
I I he BOS did a great job of explaining this he doesn't see on this replacing a phone but rather being another accompany
00:57:26
a phone but I think that would mean it has to do a good job of the majority of the time you're outside to be active so
00:57:32
2our battery life is way too low um my super nitpicky the 70 Dee field of view was like really good but if you placed a window and then kind of moved your head you would see it cut out and that just
00:57:44
kind of breaks immersion yeah um I think that's like it probably would be fine with 70 degree field of view the
00:57:51
vertical field of view was annoying for me I didn't seemed to hit that when I was playing pong I felt like I could never see the top of the the whole thing yeah really yeah yeah I think the pong
00:58:04
was the most vertically stretched thing that we did yeah I think I when I had three Windows side by side that's when I
00:58:10
got to the left and right edges of the field of view and it would get cut off but yeah I think that's those are all on
00:58:16
my wish list as well higher resolution res the other things just cuz Fidelity is everything in my world and I would
00:58:22
love to see it in crisp 4K if I could um and yeah I I think in general just just
00:58:29
thinner and lighter I think BOS when you interviewed him said he would like the price to be equal to a phone and I think
00:58:36
that's totally reasonable if not I think it could be higher yeah the the question
00:58:42
when we think of all these things being better is how much better higher resolution how much higher double triple
00:58:49
maybe thinner and lighter okay how much thinner and lighter because we are packing everything into these
00:58:54
classes uh to get to like 100 G how much thinner and lighter and then to your point like how much more field of view
00:59:01
how much cheaper do we do we really want them to be those are all questions that they have to answer as a company those
00:59:07
are all trade-offs that they'll have to make to try to work engineer their way down to maybe something that could ship
00:59:13
someday um these sound cool to me but it also seems to me like this was a big recruitment demo they're like look at
00:59:19
this cool stuff we're working on come help us build the future because they're not selling these yeah one line that's
00:59:25
stuck out to me that I think actually has a lot of weight behind it that they kind of just skimmed by but they said
00:59:33
you know everybody starts off wanting to make glasses and then ends up just making a headset just because it's like the physics it's just impossible you
00:59:39
just make a headset and so you see all these headsets out there and you can see every company's ambition to someday
00:59:45
either shrink the headset down or like get to this AR glasses thing but the fact that they actually have made it and
00:59:53
you know it's a thing that exists it's maybe not something you can buy but it's a thing that exists is already a pretty
01:00:00
Monumental step I think which is pretty cool that we're witnessing so yeah I think uh I think stay tuned for the full
01:00:07
video which goes over all our thoughts the Hands-On you can see what I saw when I was demoing them all that footage
01:00:14
hopefully you're going to see how many times I lost and hopefully as many points as possible
01:00:20
pong of me winning um but yeah the whole time we're playing like every time one of us would do like a sick point be like
01:00:25
Mariah use that one Mar who's that one yeah I did play BOS and he smoked me in pong obviously he's got he did not smoke
01:00:32
you those are's got an advantage he has an ADV he's played it way more than I have um but it it is it is actually
01:00:40
pretty fun nice so my final thoughts meta Rayban clear glasses are the best clear tech product I think I've ever seen yeah I want them so bad I am in
01:00:52
love with these somewhere is like furiously working on glass Carl step it up I also feel the need to say as someone who's done a lot of clowning on
01:01:03
these spectacles uh there were many times when I was in metahq where I would see an employee and
01:01:11
I'd be like oh cool ray bands and I'd be like those have camera what like I got fooled multiple times uh by by these so I think uh I think I may have to eat my
01:01:23
words I think that's the reason why I like have the extra like critique of those
01:01:29
glasses need to be smallers because these are proving to be really like impressive and mistaken as glasses which
01:01:36
is the end goal yeah possibly the funniest moment of me working here was coming down in the hotel lobby and
01:01:43
seeing Marquez wearing these and I'd never seen him wear glasses before and it was just like well Marquez got lasic
01:01:48
so he can wear tech classes what are you laughing at if you rewind far back enough on the YouTube Channel's history you'll find videos with me wearing glasses only for like a
01:02:01
month I the very first video I ever made I took them off 10 seconds into the video so really yeah it's pretty continu
01:02:09
it's it's very glary when there's a screen in front of you anyway we got a lot more from that video check it out get subscribed make sure you watch out
01:02:15
for that but we got a little more to talk about including the Tesla robotex event so in any case we should get to trivia yeah trivia it's so cool to be
01:02:23
over here for this oh yeah everyone except for Ellis because Ellis knows the answer uh I just dropped a picture into
01:02:31
your doc could one of you describe this for me wait did you ever watch Top Gear UK no cuz this is actually I'm almost positive a trivia question they did on
01:02:42
that really really nice theer great minds I'm just like oh well this looks like a yeah describe what was the um what was that like one of the first Honda um e
01:02:56
the Moto compacto no the one that had the uh oh the Insight was it the Insight I don't it was the Insight where it had like the cover over the back wheel Google it for aerodynamics Google it
01:03:08
yeah oh was it not the Insight I think let's go baby I feel like this looks like the Honda Insight got stung by a bee but it's a twoo and it's got this
01:03:20
little Sleek Honda insight's a two door Mercedes huh this is a 2005 Mercedes Ben's concept car ah dude yeah it was inspired by an animal
01:03:33
what kind of animal and is it faster than the slow Lord how specific are we going to get
01:03:38
cuz I was I was going to say like a well don't say it don't say it but I will accept a very broad um answer to animal
01:03:45
okay sure cuz I was going to give a category sure you can get two points if you give me the exact animal I'll give you the kingdom philm genus you get 10
01:03:53
points I will give you how many legs it has gen leg all right we'll we'll talk Tesla
01:03:59
Robo taxi after the break be right [Music] back all right we back this time we're talking Tesla Robo taxi now here's the
01:04:19
thing here's the fun part about this section of the podcast the Tesla robotaxi event is Thursday night I'm
01:04:25
going to go out there and point cameras at this thing and check it out this podcast comes out Friday so you already
01:04:31
know by the time the podcast comes out exactly what got announced what was shown on stage and what actually
01:04:36
happened but this is being recorded on Wednesday so right now all the people you're looking at and listening to have no idea what the robo taxi is or what's going to happen and we're still going to
01:04:47
nail these predictions and we're just going to try to figure it out in real time just kind of guess so I'm actually
01:04:53
I've been on the fence about should I even go to this event like what what is it what is a robo taxi event what is the
01:05:00
point like what's happening here and the conclusion I've come to is okay it's Tesla it's famously very ambitious with their announcements and I would say every time
01:05:14
I've gone to a Tesla event it has at least been thought-provoking in some way because their announcement isn't just a
01:05:21
new product it's it often comes with all this baggage of like this is the category that we are defining here the I
01:05:27
went to the Cyber truck event years ago and it was like this product might not ship for years but they are kind of
01:05:33
actively trying to redefine electric trucks I remember going to the model y event and and coming away thinking this
01:05:40
could be the most important electric vehicle period I remember the model 3 event as they went through that
01:05:45
production hell and figuring out what a high volume lowcost evv actually is and so this is another new Tesla vehicle vle I
01:05:57
believe and then we kind of don't know anything else other than we robot exactly which uh is a reference to a collection of short stories by Isaac
01:06:07
azimoff it is uh where a uh technology Professor type person I haven't actually read this I just sort of know about it famous oh it's really good we'll explain don't remember it it's a it's like a
01:06:20
it's a it's a scientific Doctor Who I believe works for the government uh explaining a bunch of stuff to a
01:06:26
reporter so I think that is kind of what they're referencing oh that's the yeah that's the book I believe yes in that
01:06:32
process he's saying a bunch of short stories yeah and one of them is the robot and there's also a Will Smith
01:06:38
movie I was I've seen the Will Smith movie does that count as knowing a little bit about this I don't think but
01:06:43
it was that I comma robot or is that I robota Robot and the invitation to this event is we comma robot so I assume robot us comma robots which a big part
01:06:54
of that book believe is like the laws of robotics so this will be interesting because if they're naming it after that
01:07:00
event can we or not event if they're naming the event after the book I mean can we kind of open this with like Tesla
01:07:07
has mentioned cars being autonomous taxis before yes and so that's what my biggest Wonder here I know you put some things out that are like potential rumors of what's coming out but before we even get to that I think what's
01:07:19
interesting is there have been times where Tesla has said that like you can buy your car with full self-driving drive it when you're using it and then when you are not using it it can go out
01:07:32
and like ride share people and make you money make you money in the background they have said this before and that is
01:07:37
just your regular car like a model 3 yes so when I see Robo taxy event I feel like that is either are we just going to announce that this is can happen now and it's the same car we don't see anything
01:07:49
new or are we going to see a new car which kind of defeats the old purpose or one of the purposes of purchasing one of those cars you know Mark Zuckerberg once said if we don't invent the thing that
01:08:00
kills Facebook someone else will so maybe this is that maybe they're just trying to kill their own idea it to them
01:08:06
first maybe uh but yeah so I I feel I'm assuming this is going to be something more along the lines of weo of like a dedicated Robo taxi M but I just find it
01:08:18
funny that previously your model 3 was just supposed to do this yes yes I think that irony will be heavy through the entire presentation or at least through the lenses of those who have heard those
01:08:29
promises before um but I agree with you I do think this will be a dedicated autonomous vehicle whose only purpose is to do what way mode does now which is to
01:08:40
do ride sharing and taxi services and things like that important note M at least in this great state of California uh this great state no the
01:08:52
Ellis is always in California yeah I think he's said this great state California right we were yesterday uh I
01:08:57
think technically we were today no we were in there anyway that aside um technically in California they cannot do
01:09:04
what weo does because in order to operate an autonomous vehicle in the great state of California you need specific permits to do that uh Tesla has
01:09:11
not even applied for those permits why did you put air quotes around the great state of California I did not don't you
01:09:17
dare our audio listeners with that in fact if I could have spoken with an underline and a bold I would have I
01:09:25
would put it past them to save that for after the announcement okay because I think
01:09:31
this is a very much this is what we plan to do type of announcement which hey let's be real let's Tesla they've done
01:09:37
that before where they announce something and then this thing doesn't actually come out or happen for many
01:09:42
years um I'm generally this is this is be my prediction this is what I think they're going to do is they're going to roll a new vehicle on stage and I think
01:09:53
based on a couple of Elon tweets of him saying like oh we have to push it back we need to redesign the front of it a little bit like it will look a little
01:09:58
bit different from the existing model so they're going to roll a new looking vehicle on stage and then they're going to go look at the inside there's no
01:10:05
steering wheel you know why because it doesn't need one and here's all the capabilities based on where we think our
01:10:13
Tech will be very soon he'll be like it's future complete it just needs to get approved he'll say that I bet he'll say
01:10:20
that and we'll get to this point where it could theoretically with enough compute like drive around charge itself and do all these things that it should do there will be some layer of economic
01:10:33
upside to it being electric and just making you money passively hey you should own a fleet of these things
01:10:39
they'll they'll do all that song and dance and then they'll end with you can get a ride in this thing and the only
01:10:46
reason I think they'll do that is because when I signed uh my agreement I signed a waiver to go to this event and
01:10:53
near the bottom of the waiver was because you uh you could go on a ride in a thing and you will not sue us if that
01:11:00
goes wrong it does seem though because the event is on the Warner Bros Discovery lot it is so there could be no
01:11:07
other cars uh well it would be literally illegal for them to do it on public roads in California which is why they won't yeah so that's what I think's
01:11:15
going to happen and then I think they will also probably mention like oh yeah you can smart summon you can use
01:11:20
autopilot on our regular cars and there's all sorts of other great updates coming to our regular cars but this will be the robo taxi where if you're in any
01:11:28
number of these places maybe maybe anywhere maybe just us who knows uh then you'll be able to yeah I have a question for you go for it uh cuz you said something that I had not thought about
01:11:40
in all of this which is how do you think they will charge themselves or will they be on the New Jersey model where someone has to come and plug them in that one is for you
01:11:52
there's a couple yeah there's a couple possible answers possible answer number one is they just hire a bunch of people
01:12:00
and when a robo taxi pulls up they just plug it in manually possible option number two have you seen the old clips
01:12:07
of the mechanical uh charge plug so if you go back far enough this is a decade plus old there is a old video from the Tesla Factory of a
01:12:19
articulating snake like charger that just like wakes up finds the charge plug and plugs itself in and then it Whispers you should eat this apple it is a strange Visual and this
01:12:32
does not exist anywhere in the real world now but that could be another thing that they bring back I don't know um okay so yeah that's that's a
01:12:40
good question we don't know yeah will the Tesla app just become Uber then I think they'll probably have to have
01:12:45
another app a separate app en time either another app or like another section of the app or you call one or
01:12:50
they'll fold it into X and just make it the the the we chat of America Jesus as as much as you might be joking I that's hly what he wants that there what's the Tesla
01:13:02
subscription uh I forgot what it's called called like Tesla plus get it's like contivity it's for streaming it's for like all the data that goes I thought it
01:13:13
was also cheaper rates on Tesla Chargers or something uh Tesla connectivity packages premium you get navigation live
01:13:20
traffic Sentry mode satellite maps video streaming karaoke music uh internet browser and why did I think there was one we talked about a while ago that was changing or guaranteeing you like better
01:13:33
prices on charging I think that's just if you have a Tesla and a Tesla oh or is that if you're a non- Tesla and you're
01:13:39
using the Tesla charging nwork okay yeah I was wondering if somehow the uh ride shair would be put into that I I do think it would be a separate app as well and a way better name than Tesla plus
01:13:51
yes um also weo charges by technician plugging it in okay so I would assume it would be similar if we're thinking this is like a Tesla run on the streets of
01:14:02
whatever City they would probably have another lot with technicians in it that would plug them in there there's also a
01:14:09
few really nent technologies that I think are mostly being tested in China that involve battery swaps where you you pull onto a bay and it it actually takes
01:14:19
out the battery puts it into a charging Bay and then replaces it with a full battery that's been charging that's the thing motorcy in other countries yeah
01:14:26
weirdly enough this is also a thing that Tesla has also done a video announcement of where they drove up a a model I don't
01:14:35
know what model it was but they drove up a Tesla onto some station it did a battery swap and they also had like a
01:14:41
gas car filling up with gas next to it and then I think if I'm remembering this correctly they had the electric car
01:14:48
finished doing the G the battery swap drive away the crowd sheered and then another electric car drove up and initiated another battery swap and also finished it before the tank of gas was
01:14:59
done damn but it was also like a six-minute tank of gas so I'm not even sure how to process that also apologies
01:15:06
I just looked it up uh it is not a nent technology there are 11,000 of these stations for scooters in Taiwan for
01:15:12
scooters okay for scooters so yeah there are a whole bunch of random things from Tesla's past that they could bring back
01:15:19
including full self-driving including motorized Chargers including battery SW Ops I think the smart thing to do is probably just look at what weo already
01:15:31
does which is okay they operate in a small place they have these lots of these things where technicians can look
01:15:36
over them every night and they charge and they take off every morning they beep at 300 in the morning all night and
01:15:42
annoy people but at least they have a hub and maybe that's maybe that's the model I think one other thing similar to
01:15:49
weo I wouldn't be surprised by here is seeing it with a bunch of extra sensors on top similar
01:15:55
to so this is the interesting thing Tesla Tesla famously doesn't like that at all well they don't like sensors okay at all and that's like if you watch their AI day if you watch any like of
01:16:07
the last couple years of Tesla's presentations they're like not only do we try to do cameras for as much as
01:16:13
possible we've literally gotten rid of other perfectly useful sensors in the cars exactly no more ultrasonic sensors
01:16:18
for parking everything is visual there's a hilarious Tesla press release that I think I linked somewhere in the script
01:16:24
where they're like like we've gotten rid of ultrasonic sensors we're only doing what they call Tesla Vision which is
01:16:29
like computer vision um and this is better they're like this is so much better it's better in testing that being
01:16:35
said because we've disabled it you won't have summon or smart summon or it might be like very very limited now yeah so it
01:16:42
is better and you just can't do the stuff you paid for I would not be surprised if they were like we needed to do this for these taxies or or just kind
01:16:50
of forget that they said that and never reference it at all and see SW sensors on top of and Cruz both use these both
01:16:57
use specifically lar um and also you know when these things were getting phased out in 2021 2022 the lidar uh
01:17:05
manufacturing ecosystem was very different now there's there's if hundreds if not several hundred uh
01:17:12
suppliers suppliers of of lar it's it's something that's a lot cheaper to implement now I think the that the Tesla
01:17:19
Believers argument or Devil's Advocate would be that the ceiling is higher Vision based on AI so they view lar and ultrasonic as a crutch and if you drive
01:17:32
around with you know combining all the sensor data which kind of is just noise to the visual systems then that might
01:17:37
work better in the short term actually it does work better in the short term but in the future you can do more and do
01:17:44
better with just compute trained better and better I mean ai's been getting amazing lately you know if the first
01:17:51
generation is the rabbit R1 think of like the 10th Generation maybe I could d dve itself I think that's that's the
01:17:56
argument is the ceiling is higher for V for just Vision that is TBD you know Elon in the
01:18:02
past has described lar as a clutch excuse me a crutch for Eves like like they're you're going to rely on the sensor and not you know but having just been to meta and then saying like having
01:18:13
a multimodal sensor experience using these two different kind of sensors to error correct each other they seem to feel really confident in that and
01:18:19
obviously AR glasses and exactly the same exactly the same no differences no notes um but yeah so that that's another thing I you know I I am really curious
01:18:32
about is if they're going to double back on this and be like look it's cheaper now are AI good enough to do like a real
01:18:38
M multimodal system where we can Factor these things in equally without relying on lar as a as a crutch I think if they
01:18:46
do put lar in they just pull the Apple move of like we never said it was bad look at how good this thing is now they'll have and ignore it completely I think the most famous example for me has
01:18:57
been like I went from a Model S that did have ultrasonic to not using it and it just got way worse in the rain way worse in the rain autopilot in the rain with
01:19:08
ultrasonic sensors that can see straight through the rain was fine visual relying
01:19:13
on cameras pouring rain can't see the road as well do you have summon SL smart summon in any of your Tesla Vision only uh no no okay now I only currently
01:19:25
have a cyber truck I don't have my Model S anymore I believe that the the model S that is shipping Now does not have any
01:19:32
of these features cuz I said that and I am quoting directly from a press release but as soon as I said that I was like someone with a Tesla is going to be like
01:19:38
well I have those features they may have updated to include some of them now but again the truth is that they had to
01:19:44
remove them at first while they worked on and I'm reading directly from Tesla's website so you can't be you can't be mad
01:19:49
yeah they the wild robot is a good movie okay last question I have for you guys is what do you think the price of something like this is is that even a question did they even say this on stage
01:20:00
for a price tag for a robo tax I think it's just I'm assuming it's just going to be a direct wayo competitor where
01:20:07
it's not a price for the car it's a price for the ride share aspect Fair guys I just went down a really dark
01:20:14
rabbit hole because you guys mentioned earlier like having a fleet of these things for your business as like an
01:20:20
Enterprise yeah good idea I really think it's a good idea um there's also rumors
01:20:25
that they're going to talk about Optimus at this event Optimus is what they call their bipedal robot Prime uh what
01:20:32
happens when you use the same app to get a fleet of Optimus H well Optimus is not anywhere near shipping contrary to
01:20:44
what some Executives have said but the idea of commanding a fleet of humanoid robots for the right price is uh that's some serious iRobot stuff right there yeah I I'm I'm referring to a Will Smith
01:20:56
movie this time okay I haven't seen that movie oh but I'm taking your word for it if you Google IR robot right now you will see what looks like a fleet of
01:21:02
humanoid robot how there's no other way to describe the scenes from that movie other than a fleet of humanoid rob you
01:21:08
should really watch that movie it's really good it's pretty it's a great my list it's fun it's right up my head Yep this is it yep Mar yep uhhuh uhhuh wow
01:21:16
when you're right you're right yeah so I I the things that came to mind for me were like the Tesla semit Tru I don't
01:21:22
even remember if they announced a price for it but they definitely had a big talk about like cost of operation per
01:21:27
mile and of course if you're just speaking to people who are going to get a fleet of these that's that's music to their ears they just want to hear I will
01:21:33
save money over the current Fleet that I use um maybe it'll be like that maybe they don't get a price maybe we do have
01:21:39
a price maybe it's like hey if you want to buy Six of these and operate them in a little corner of your town and a little franchise their little Robo taxi
01:21:45
business maybe that's a thing I don't know oh you think they'll sell them too like taxi dispatchers that's what I
01:21:51
imagine I mean they keep using the word robot maybe I think we're just going to see
01:21:57
testing in select cities as a ride shair that would be the sa thing to do okay you just you convinc me that's not what they're doing Tesla this time well I'm I feel like that's definitely what they're
01:22:08
going to do for like the foreseeable future but like they definitely have like a five 10 year plan for what they want this to be they definitely want it
01:22:14
everywhere yeah because that would be the if they're if they're intellectually consistent through the past couple years
01:22:19
of what they've been trying to do then the benefit of being vision is that it can be anywhere doesn't have to be in
01:22:25
prepped cities doesn't have to be in select locations full self-driving works on any Street in any place so that's if
01:22:33
they if they want to be consistent with that then this could launch anywhere at any time there are laws wow good exactly like the sound button right
01:22:45
there which is probably a great place to end it that is before we end we do owe someone a thank you because a lot of
01:22:52
these predictions were informed by some really great reporting By Dana Hull Cara
01:22:57
Carlson and Edward lllo at Bloomberg so thank you guys for your diligent work shout out to Bloomberg shout out to me reading the fine print and the invitation give me a little a little
01:23:08
insight as well yeah shout out to reading elon's posts on Twitter it's really painful but I made it through got
01:23:14
some insight there um yeah that's it I there's a lot more coming up there's this event there's maybe an M4 Mac event
01:23:22
coming up soon as far as We Know there's maybe some other exciting future announcements and videos so just stay
01:23:28
tuned for it all it's all going to be on way for baby that's why we're here we and in the are hot yeah yep I think uh I
01:23:34
think it's cold usually but well speaking of cold I'm G to try to end my cold streak in
01:23:40
trivia did you got a point last night no yeah you got a point Y last oh I did yeah oh well this would really end my
01:23:46
this would be like a hot streak then starting a hot streak Ellis do you want to read your question yeah you mind if I
01:23:52
do it from over here yeah God this is this is so cool I know I get to like look at you in your face well we do that
01:23:58
enough anyway well I have to like turn this way which is a little Annoying um you guys last week or two weeks ago
01:24:05
maybe Marquez admitted to us that he is quite the effici a KN animal top speeds you know well when you said that I assumed you meant like the really fast ones right so I did try to throw you a little curveball here oh you did no I've
01:24:18
this is I have to think about if listeners are confused by the way that episode comes out on October 28th be
01:24:24
ready wait oh they haven't heard that one yet right but they'll get it later hilarious yeah anyway that is so funny um question
01:24:35
number one guys uh what animal has a faster top speed the leopard tortoise or the slow [Music]
01:24:48
loris I've never even heard of a loris it's a lemur I think huh could be wrong it is unfortunately like one of maybe not one of the most but it's a
01:25:04
extremely popular illegal pet that is generally like really terrible how they take them out of their natural habitats oh that's not good is that like a they're pretty adorable sugar sugar glider kind of probably yeah and read
01:25:17
what do you got all right we picked separate things has what did you put I wrote The Slow
01:25:25
loris and that is correct that is the faster animal and if you can see this little diagram I drew down here this
01:25:32
doesn't make any sense I'll explain it I believe that the leopard tortoise is named for the way that the shell looks
01:25:38
not how fast it is I think that's why it's called The Leopard tortoise uh yes the uh slow loris I could not find a
01:25:45
world record top speed for but uh it was averaging about 1.2 mph the leopard tortoise I did find a world record recorded speed for in Guinness that was 6 milph you give that some of miles's
01:26:01
pre-workout and some smelling salts I think we're pushing 1.7 and Marquez was correct by the way it's because of the
01:26:06
pattern on its shell or carus kill I think I was thinking of those turtles that run really fast sometimes not a
01:26:12
toris have you ever seen that one that's like on the sidewalk and the guy walks up to it and it just
01:26:18
darts I haven't seen that but I have seen that awesome video of the guy who gave his pet turtle a tech
01:26:24
skateboard he like puts under his belly and the confidence this has now that it can move really fast it's like it's like dogin this cat like I need to watch that
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pretty cute uh question two Adam all right quick update oncore Marquez now with 19 yo let's go turn this franchise
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around Andrew and David both tied with 22 David by the way did we mention he's not in this week because he's watching
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the robot movie over and over we listen to you guys you you really you really lit us up for that one so we told him to to go home we told him to turn we told him to go back to the movie
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theater and just watch that movie over and over and over again until he agrees with you so um that'll be the first hour
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of next week is him talking about what he learned from that yeah and apologizing yeah profusely next question
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so the 2005 Mercedes-Benz bionic concept car was inspired by what's animal [Music] you will get one point for the kind of animal and you will get another point
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for the actual animal like the the god-given name God if I say the the specific name of it
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and that's wrong but it is in the same category of animal do I get get the point so all right flip him and read
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what do you got huh that's a good one hm so we both wrote something in the water marine animals what did you write I wrote an orca orca mhm damn I could see that
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though and not a whale orcas are whales yeah but I'm saying it's also not a whale oh no it's not a whale well I
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wrote a fish but um it is a fish I'm glad it's a fish because it kind of looks like a fish I vacillated between different fish I ended up landing on a stingray nope it's a box fish a box fish
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yeah what is a box fish oh I see it oh yeah okay yeah I kind of I kind of tracks that's weird that like why why why that fish it's not like a
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particularly aerodynamic fish though hydr dnamic hydr dnamic okay shout out to the shout out to the Mercedes box fish car yeah wait
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what's it called again the bionic the bionic it's just a concept car so it probably well it definitely was never
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made never came out interesting well I'm glad I'm glad I got one of the points 19 fish I got it oh sick okay I'll take that oh that's huge that is amazing with
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a come from behind okay don't call it a comeback well that like I said it's busy time it's te toober lots more coming up
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lots more events lots more videos get subscribed if you haven't already uh David will be back in that
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chair El maybe as long as he thinks about what he did so many of you guys think David and I are the same person D
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yes how you're constantly in two different chairs you like wild robot that I haven't seen wild I do it I want to see it so bad now yeah me too it
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looks awesome well next week David will have seen many more times and Ellis will
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be back in that chair and also we will know what happened at the robot taxi event so stay tuned we'll catch you guys
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next week Peace Way for it brought to you by Fox uh [Music] damn you do it way for was produced by
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Adam alen and Alis Ren we're part of the VOX media podcast Network and our intro outro music is made by then who
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Singo let's go [Music] all right one last story before we start Adam when we were in the when we got to the airport Marquez hadn't had lunch so
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we went to Wendy's and Ellis Brandon and I are standing in line Marquez sits down
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and eats his food and Ellis like Ellis was watching him and said like in perfect harmony with the boarding he essentially finishes his last bite
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stands up in one throws like crumples up hisers throws it out walks to where the boarding was it
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was literally like I watched the the Nugget hit his tongue and as soon as it touches they go all right we're going to
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begin boarding for this flight to San Francisco Marquez gets up trash doesn't miss a step walks straight to the gate
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and on and I was just like this bro is so optimized it's crazy locked in not one wasted fry