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Do you know a good way to tell the difference between me? >> Between what?
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>> Black bear and a grizzly bear. >> If it's alive after 200 cups of coffee.
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>> Yo, what is up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. >> I'm Andrew.
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>> I'm David. Today feels like a little bit of a I'm not going to say throwback
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episode, but like a call back episode because we got a whole bunch of stuff that might sound like it was from months
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ago, but it's all new for real. For real update. >> Um, we're going to talk about Samsung
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foldables, Google fixing something that should have been fixed 10 years ago, GoPro launching some new cameras, uh,
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Samsung price hikes, and a bunch of updates from existing previous stories that we've seen and talked about in the
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past. And also, I'm going to try to explain something that just happened last weekend in tech terms. It's in the
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sports world though, so it'll be a challenge. >> But first, well, so we actually have
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something before. Did we even test this? Oh, >> which is >> if last week you noticed our audio only
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episode had 4 and a half minutes of ads before the episode started playing with like 10 to 15 second giant pauses in
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between them. That was our fault. Um, if you want to know, we only run two 30 secondond pre-roll ads before the show
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starts. um because we have two ad locations for pre-rolls. And last week when we were cutting the ads out of the
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episode, accidentally named the full clip of all of the ads together after one of the sponsors, therefore uploading
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it to the 132nd ad location. >> Then giving four plus ads in that spot. So that's an oopsie.
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>> I wonder who did that. >> Sorry. >> I got a few messages from people saying,
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"What the heck is go what did you guys do? Why do you have all these ads? >> Got one from someone and every time it's
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the first person who says it, I go, "Something must have been wrong with Spotify." And then the second one comes
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in and I go, I need to investigate. >> My favorite comment was someone commented on Spotify and said, "Bro is
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giving us time to reflect after." >> I was cracking up. That was >> So yeah, our badge should be fixed by
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now. Couple companies got some free promotion, I guess, just in the midst of total confusion. Um,
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>> yeah, happens. >> But yeah, we're good. >> That's what happens.
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>> And David, you do have a Did they even take >> I do actually have a couple. I'm just
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going to do one today because we're going to save the best for not this week.
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>> Um, this one's funny. So, as we know, there are many Chinese phone brands,
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right? And some of them eventually bring some of their phones to the Western world, to global markets, you might say.
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Uh, one of these phones is the Xiaomi Leica phone that you just reviewed, I believe.
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>> Wait, it's not a phone. Um, >> you just said it's like a phone, but
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it's not a phone. >> So, what is it? >> It's like a Leica phone.
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>> Damn. >> Anyway, so the Xiaomi like a phone, there are two models. There's a Chinese
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model, which I believe is the one Marquez reviewed. >> Yeah. >> There's also a global model. Uh, I was
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hanging out with my friend Michael Fischer, uh, friend of the show. He is also putting out a video about this that
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should be out by the time the pod goes live. And he, I think he said he's going
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to mention this, but I just found this so freaking funny when he showed it to me. So, you know, clearly when they're
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making the global software, they don't generally care as much about the global
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market version of the phone because they sell the most of them in China. So, they
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made the weather app, but I guess during making the weather app, they forgot to change the coding of the feels like to
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be able to reflect Fahrenheit. So on the screen of the phone, you'll have the
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weather widget and it says like 82 F, but it says feels like 28°. >> So So you can change the weather to be
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Celsius or Fahrenheit, but then the feels like is unable to be changed. >> So here's a couple screenshots. You can
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select the temperature units, select Fahrenheit, but the weather widget will always show the feels like in Celsius.
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>> They absolutely did not test this. >> They did not test this. definitely did
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test it because you know we use freedom units and you wouldn't use freedom units
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in honestly most of the world so there's very little reason to test this. >> Yeah.
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>> And the hotter it gets the more >> the bigger discrep >> the bigger discrepancy between those.
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>> If it's like really cold then it's like very small and the feels like might be
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fairly accurate >> and something that's like reasonable also. >> It'll say like 34 feels like
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>> 24 or whatever. You'd be like oh >> windchill that seems about right. It's
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cold. >> Yeah, but that's >> This week we had a heat wave and it was
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82 Fahrenheit and it says feels like 28. >> And if that was cra that's that would be
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that would be crazy. That's like a 60°ree difference. So >> yeah, >> Michael said that there are many many
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things in this phone in the global version that basically this happened to. It's not just the like Celsius
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Fahrenheit thing. There are a bunch of things where it's like they clearly did
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not translate this over to the global version. >> So uh yeah, >> this this happens a lot. We review a lot
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of phones like this where you're like, "Well, this isn't made for this market,
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but I'm going to test it anyway and review it." And you just kind of start
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ignoring those things, even though there's a lot of them out the box. You try to change as many of them as you
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can. >> Yeah, >> that's hilarious. >> They need to get testers for like global
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markets to actually just find all these bugs before they ship them. But >> yeah. Yeah.
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>> All right. I have a little segment that I wanted to do with you, Marquez,
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because last week >> you I saw that you were using the iPhone Air again, and I said, "Why are you
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doing that?" He said, "Because it's black." >> Yep. >> Well, it's the only black iPhone they
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make. >> I have now acquired an iPhone Air. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But that's not a black phone.
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>> It's baby blue. >> Barely. >> Barely blue. >> Is that Brandon's? It looks
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>> No, it's not Brandon. It's Michael Fischers. I stole it from him. Uh, and I
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just wanted to like I just wanted us to do a little like recap thing on it because you know the review went out
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fairly soon after the embargo and then now it's been a while and I've been
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using it for a few days. >> So, I just wanted to talk about some feelings.
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>> Sure. Well, I can give you my timeline and how it's gone. I was I reviewed all
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the phones at the beginning and when I was done reviewing all the iPhones, I stuck to the 17 Pro as my main iPhone
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for a while >> and that's usually how it goes. So, I usually have the Pro. I use the cameras
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a lot. That's the whole point of me carrying an iPhone is the things that the iPhone does well. And so, I just
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been carrying that phone for a bit, but it's orange. And I swear to God, that
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started getting on my nerves faster and faster. >> It was. >> And eventually, yeah, I just started
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testing this other phone that we're actually I can talk about now. It's the
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Oppo Find X9 Ultra. And the video on it is coming later. Uh, but it's got these
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incredible cameras and this incredible battery life. So, what better time to see if I could use the iPhone with the
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worst cameras and the worst battery life? >> Yeah. >> So, I flipped to the black iPhone Air
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and it's been, I think maybe two weeks now since I switched to it. >> Couple things have happened. One, uh,
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I've gotten really used to the thin and lightness of it. It's not just the
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thinness, it's the lightness that really gets you. You put it in your pocket, you
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forget that there's something in your pocket. That never happens with other phones.
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>> So, that happened quite a few times. The other thing is um I just stopped trying
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to use zoom like ultra wide and zoom stuff which I I default do on the pro iPhone all the time.
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>> Uh it bummed me out but I just stopped using zoom obviously because there's no
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ability to zoom out or zoom in with any sort of quality. >> Uh but I'm using this other incredible
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camera phone with this huge battery and these amazing cameras and I'm taking all
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my pictures and videos on that one. So it's been fine so far. But we'll see how
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long that lasts. Yeah, my my first few days I was going to drop it a thousand times because of how thin it is. It's
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almost hard to grip because of how thin it is. >> Interesting. >> Um, it's also hard to get out of my
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pocket. I have to put it in my pocket like this so that I can grab the camera bar and pull it out.
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>> You know, maybe I'm doing that weirdly, but that's what I've
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>> Wait, you don't put your phone in your pocket camera face down. >> Well, you know, he has to change his
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abbit so he can have a lip to pick. >> Well, that's why I'm asking. Did you
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change it specifically for this? >> No, I did not. And I just kept putting
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my hand in my pocket and being like, "Oh, it's face up." >> Oh, so you always have put your phone in
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your pocket >> right side up. >> Not usually, but for some reason, apparently this phone has made me start
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doing that. >> It's the weirdest thing ever. >> I just never heard that before.
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>> I don't do it on purpose. It's very weird. Um, other thing I, you know, I'm
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plugging it in a lot more, but it hasn't really been bugging me that I'm plugging
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it in a lot more. >> Oh, yeah. The battery is so bad. >> It's pretty bad. Like I'm used to a good
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battery and this one >> I mean I'm at 80%. I haven't really done much of anything. I navigated here in
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the morning and that was the only thing I've done on it. >> But you probably didn't did you use your
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phone to navigate here? >> Yeah. >> Oh. >> So it's been on ways and on and usually
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I'd get here at like 93 or 94% or whatever. >> 80. >> Yeah. I'm at 74. I've done almost
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nothing with it. >> The other day I asked everyone in the office that uses an air aka Marquez,
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Brandon, and Rich. >> What's your battery? >> Yeah. What's your battery? And Marquez
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was like, "Oh, I think I'm at like 70 something." Rich was like, "I just took
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it off the charger, so I'm pretty much topped off." And Brandon's just staring
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at me from across the room. And it's like 1:00 p.m. And he's like, "I'm at
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like 38." >> Yeah. >> Thanks. >> Yeah. And that's about how it feels.
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>> I was at the gym the other day um at 1 at 100 p.m. I was at like 12%. >> And so if you're using a multiple apps,
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like I was using a couple of like music apps, podcast apps, you know, the fitness app, it it can drain pretty
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pretty damn quick. >> Yep. Um, I have gotten used to the thinness of it now and I'm not like, you
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know, dropping it. The main problems I'm finding, >> one, when I'm traveling, I use the 4x
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telephoto lens a lot cuz I shoot in like howlight or the Moment camera pro and not having that sucks.
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>> Yeah. And I know that most people said that they didn't want to buy this
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because it didn't have the ultra wide. I never really use the ultra wide, so
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that's not really a problem for me. But the 4x lens, trash. And then the second
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thing is that I use this very specific app called Viewfinder Preview that helps me shoot ultrawide um panoramas on my
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film cameras. >> Mhm. >> And that uses the ultra wide camera. So I literally cannot main this if I'm
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going out to like take pictures with my 3D printed camera. >> Yep. >> So
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>> yeah. >> Yeah. Kind of a problem. I have a question for you then.
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>> Yeah. >> We all expect the next iPhone air to have a second camera lens.
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>> Which one do you hope it is? >> Telephoto, but it won't be. You think
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it'll be the ultra wide? >> It's definitely the ultra wide. It's
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probably the ultra wide. >> I'm pretty sure most people said that their main problem was it didn't have an
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ultra wide. >> Yeah. Which I don't understand cuz that camera sucks anyway. It's always sucked.
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Like it's got it looks terrible. >> Remember when Apple always goes, "Oh,
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but yeah, you technically have a 2x lens built in with this optical lens." Very
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far. Yeah. 17 lenses in your kit. >> Yeah. They love saying that, but it really doesn't translate that well.
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Well, we just saw the Huawei fold like wide foldable that's going to be released, right? and that has three
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lenses on it. So, they can do that in an ultra thin body. Like, come on, Apple. Come on.
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>> Well, I just want to say a few weeks ago, we did a community post on YouTube
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talking about which secondary lens is everyone's favorite. 19% of people said
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the selfie, 31% of people said the ultra wide, and 50% of people said telephoto.
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>> Oh, the selfie. >> Interesting. >> All right, Apple, you're listening. This
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is data. You got to use the data to build your phone. >> Okay. Wait, before we move on, question
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for both of you now that you've been using the iPhone Air for a bit. Um, yeah.
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>> Is it worth it? Are the trade-offs worth it? Cuz the the lightness is awesome.
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The size is awesome. >> Brandon loves it. Even though the battery life is trash
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>> over the Pro or over the standard one? >> Yeah, that's before.
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>> I would not like normally switch from the Pro to this phone. It is clearly not
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a better phone. >> No. >> Uh, it is a bigger screen. It's a totally fine phone.
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>> Well, I have a Pro Max, so >> Oh, okay. So, I came from the Pro. So,
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it's a bigger screen for me, slightly smaller for you. It's just that I've I
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just came from the 17 Pro, so that's why I'm noticing all the downfalls of it.
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But if you you're coming from any other random older phone and you're thinking
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about buying an Air, you're like, it's fine. It's going to be a totally fine
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phone. It's only one camera. Fine. The battery life's kind of cheeks. Fine.
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Whatever. You can deal with that. But it would be so good with two or three cameras and a silicon carbon battery.
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That would be a great phone. >> Uh but it doesn't have that yet. So, we're waiting for
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>> if two air two. >> Yeah. >> Can I drop a crazy iPhone camera
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opinion? >> Sure. that I discovered this weekend that I feel I need to let the world
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know. David, I just sent you two pictures via iMessage. >> Okay. >> That I took on my iPhone. I've
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discovered >> I forgot about Blip. I just discovered the the the sauce. Okay. It's it's the
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Moment the Moment C. First, David, tell me that these >> Did you bring this up last week?
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>> No. No. I' I've dialed it in even further with a with a crazy take.
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>> Uhhuh. >> Moment Pro camera. You lock the ISO at 640 instead of 800. So, you still get
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the flatness, but it's slightly less noisy. You put it in natural processing
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mode, so it's like almost a single exposure, >> and then you only use the telephoto
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lens. >> Wow. And it's it's beautiful. It looks amazing. Show Mark has
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>> Is that you playing disc golf? >> Yeah, we play golf. >> You play disc golf?
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>> I can tell cuz he has the pencil in his hat. >> He has a hat designed to have a pencil
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in his hat. >> I can tell because it's a guy in the woods. >> That's all you do in the woods? Play
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disc golf. >> Looks like the woods. >> I'm now telephoto superiority gang.
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>> Yeah, let's go. So, you're hoping for a telephoto on the next Air?
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>> I think the telephoto is the only camera you need on an iPhone. >> Well, that's a crazy take. That is the
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hottest take yet. The only the only camera you need? >> Yeah. >> All of those are with the telephoto. I
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just run really far away to take a picture and run back to my friends. >> What if you can't move further away?
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>> I was at that really nice restaurant and just like scoots back, walks over three
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tables, snaps a picture that >> Yeah, I literally did that. I mean, you get the portrait when you when you go to
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take a portrait mode photo, you it automatically on a lot of phones switches to the to the portrait to the
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telephone. >> You have a selfie camera. Just turn it around. >> Honestly, fair take. Fair take.
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>> It's a technically true statement, but it's the worst. The thing is, the
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primary camera is always the biggest sensor that gets the most most light and takes the best photos, has the fastest
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shutter speed, etc., etc. Telephoto cameras are getting better, so you can take better telephotos, but they're
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never as good as the primary. >> No. Yeah, it's astronauts and art. >> I was going to say the most popular
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iPhone picture in the world arguably is with this. >> I'm not arguing that it's the most
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popular picture, but it is definitively not the highest quality picture. >> Yeah, that's facts.
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>> Yeah, facts. So, you know, >> that's the Hasselblad X1D. >> Yeah. When I was in Colorado last week,
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I was shooting RAW a lot on the >> That was your fault. I accidentally flipped it to myself instead of it.
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>> Oh my god. It's actually crazy how good the main Oh my god. >> I'm I'm leaving that in the podcast,
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too. I'm not deleting it. >> Good. Uh, it's actually crazy how good
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the main sensor is now. If you like shoot in RAW, they're so flexible. I don't really feel like I need to carry
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around a digital camera anymore. Like almost at all. >> That's where I'm at with this. Well, I
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can't say too much, but with this OPPO phone, >> the whole point of me testing it is to
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be like, "All right, it's got these crazy specs. Can it just be as good as a
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regular camera? >> Yeah. >> And that's what a lot of people think
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about with phones with crazy cameras like this. Yeah. So, I mean, we talked like a little bit off the show about how
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all of the Chinese manufacturers now, it used to be like they would make a car version of their phone. It was like, oh,
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this this company had Ferrari, this company had um >> Porsche or whatever.
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>> And now they're all doing lens manufacturers and camera manufacturers.
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They're like Zeiss and Leica and >> Hosablad. >> Yeah, which is funny cuz I don't think
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that most people know who these companies are. >> Yeah, agreed. Those companies might just
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need the extra money from licensing the most. >> They should just go back to anime.
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>> Should they do a Canon collab or something? >> That'd be kind of crazy with Canon color
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science idea. >> I think that's a good I think it's a better idea than doing like Zeiss to be
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honest. Hm. >> Like Zeiss would pull the photographer crowd, but if you want mainstream
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people, regular people know what Canon is. >> Yeah. It's like it's not like cars where
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everyone knows that a Ferrari is good, but not everybody can like experience a Ferrari. So, they're like, oh, Ferrari,
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it must be a good collab. But with Zeiss, people don't know that Zeiss is the Ferrari of lenses. So, they just
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kind of go, I don't know what that is. But if they see if they see a Canon or
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Sony sensors, >> they don't make the sensor. No, that's Well, that's a thing because everyone
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uses the Sony sensors. They're not allowed to. >> Yeah. But you know what's funny?
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>> Sony made phones and they still stamp Zeiss on the back of their phones. So
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like I don't know. They make the sensors for everyone, but they still need that
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that clout, that name. It's weird. >> Anyway. Anyway, um yeah, I think I'm
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probably going to go back to the Pro at some point. The main problem is that the
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Pro feels like 4x bigger than it did before. Now thicker. >> Yeah, >> it feels so thick now. And I'm like,
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damn. I was using the S25 Edge for a bit and then I switched to the S26 Ultra and
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this thing feels massive. I miss the edge. >> Yeah, >> the Ultra even is thinner than previous
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Ultras. So, I'd pick up that Ultra and think it's thin, but when you come from
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a thinner phone, it just it changes your >> ruins it for you. I never should have
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tried in the first place. >> Yeah. >> Uh, speaking of Samsung, since Adam just
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said Samsung, >> true, >> we now have an alleged date for the Galaxy ZFold 8 wide event. Uh, if you
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don't know what the wide is, it's basically Samsung trying to get to the
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wide boy before Apple does. So, >> remember how that happened with the thin
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phone? This is exactly what happened with the S25 Edge. There were rumors for an entire year and a half of an upcoming
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iPhone air. >> And so, months earlier, Samsung went, "Hey, check it out. We made an ultra
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thin phone first. We were first. We did it first." And they actually didn't ship
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it for a little while after that. But, they did announce it first and they did ship it first. And now that there's
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rumors of this wide folding iPhone, guess what? Samsung's about to do the exact same thing. Actually, there's a
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couple other >> We actually used to have a bunch of these. We had like OPPO.
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>> This also just >> the Pixel Fold the original. >> Yeah, I was going to say this is like
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peak Google of like we had the thing everyone liked and then we're like no, no, no. Go change what everyone else
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Okay, cool. We're on the same page >> and then everyone loves what they had.
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>> Yeah. >> Too ahead of their time. Google's always ahead of their time. Glasses. Anyway, so
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according to a South Korean publication, the next Galaxy Unpacked will be July 22nd in London where they will unveil
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the Z full 8 wide. And hopefully it does not get cancelled within 3 months like the uh you know the ultra long one, the
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trifold did. >> Did you see though that weirdly apparently you can you can buy trifolds
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in the US for a limited time till like wipes out stock? They're like reintroducing a bunch of ones that
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weren't for sale yet. >> Oh wow. >> I think it like comes out the day this
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episode airs. you can buy some or something. I don't know. I saw a Verge article like if you really want the
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trifold, here's like the last of the stock that's coming to the US. >> They're just re-releasing the stock.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Which is funny that they canceled it and then you could buy it again.
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>> Yeah. >> This event will also probably release the standard Fold 8, which will, you
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know, probably be the super thin one just like we saw with the Hold 7. Um, and then we've also been hearing rumors
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of an S27 Pro. >> This is hilarious. that is supposed to sit between the standard S27 and the S27
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Ultra, which is probably coming later. >> Is that not just the Plus, >> but they'veated? So, the Plus they've
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like kind of downtuned a little and the Ultra has I think it's a higher resolution display. It's a little bigger
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bigger battery or no, it might be the same battery. Uh extra camera for the Ultra and just a couple other smaller
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things. So the S Pen, which kind of made its way into the Ultra when they killed
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the Note, is not necessarily used by everyone who wants an Ultra. So maybe if you could spend a little less on getting
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all the same stuff but not the pen, it would make sense. And this is classic Samsung, which is like we're going to
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offer every phone that possibly could. >> So it's funny. The first thing I thought
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of when I saw this is this is the Cadillac Vistique of smartphones. >> We all agree.
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>> You know why? >> I could have said it better myself. Because Cadillac made the Lyric, which
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is like the S25 and S25 Plus. They also made the Escalade, which is the Escalade
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IQ is this enormous 200 kWh battery, 9,000lb truck. But they also made the Vistique, which is the same size as the
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Escalade, but only a regulariz battery. So, you still get the three row SUV, but
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you don't have to carry around 3,000 extra pounds of battery and spend the extra however many thousands it costs.
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So, you still get That's exactly what this is. >> Why didn't they call it a different
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trim? Because the Escalade is the big boy >> and has a massive battery and it's all
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about the massive, you know, range and all that fun stuff. >> The floor for that car needs to be high.
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>> Yes. >> Okay. >> But like what if you don't need that extra range and all that extra weight
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and don't want to spend the extra 30 grand. >> You make a new model. >> That's where the Vistique is. That's
00:20:33
exactly what this phone is. S27 Pro. It's going to be the same size as the Ultra. I just don't need to carry around
00:20:38
that extra S Pen and spend the extra money on it. It's such a good analogy. You guys aren't expecting this. Great
00:20:45
analogy in this moment. >> Confused by the Pro in this lineup. >> Oh, just it's just Samsung has a phone
00:20:49
at every price and every possible buyer. So, >> will it have a bigger battery?
00:20:53
>> I wish, but probably not. >> So, they're going to get rid of the S
00:20:56
Pen and not give you a bigger battery. >> Yeah, they're going to make it cheaper.
00:20:58
>> It's so funny. Samsung hasn't done anything cool with their lineup in the
00:21:02
last like 3 years, and they're like, "We got them this year. Let's put one kind
00:21:05
of in between the kind of higher mid-range and the really flagship. That'll get everyone."
00:21:11
>> Will it have privacy display? Probably not. That's probably an ultra only
00:21:14
feature. >> I can see that. >> So then what is this phone >> cheaper?
00:21:18
>> It's an ultra but cheaper, >> which they kind of need to do because
00:21:22
ultra's $1,250 or something. >> Now it's more Wait, no. Is it? Wait. Oh,
00:21:27
I think the higher >> Doesn't it start at $1,200? >> Yeah, something like that.
00:21:31
>> Yeah. >> Yeah, it's expensive. >> Was it going to be $1,100?
00:21:34
>> $1,100? >> I guess. I guess >> that's all it is. It's just a cheaper
00:21:38
version. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. Well, you know, speaking of that,
00:21:41
Samsung has quietly raised their prices across almost all of the mobile devices that they sell.
00:21:47
>> Oh, yeah. >> Which is kind of crazy. Um, Samsung CEO, co-CEO TM Row, uh, did say that no
00:21:55
company would be immune to the global memory shortage quite a while ago and it would be inevitable that Samsung would
00:22:00
likely have to raise their prices. And now we're seeing the result of that. >> What? Samsung makes the memory.
00:22:05
>> Yeah. I mean, yeah, but Samsung has a different Samsung wants to make it money
00:22:10
also. >> It's like it's like Samsung Fab is different than like Samsung the the
00:22:16
mobile display. >> I don't know. >> Like they don't talk >> fairly different. They probably
00:22:20
>> This has happened before with like LG and LG Display where I was like >> those are those are actually two
00:22:25
separate >> unrelated >> it's the same it's the same effect and
00:22:28
they they negotiate and contract with each other and are suppliers of each other and have relationships with each
00:22:33
other >> really like the Samsung phones and the S like there's no shared ownership like
00:22:37
they're two in cuz LG and LG displays are literally two separate companies no
00:22:41
relation. >> Yep. Com >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's unfortunate because you'd
00:22:48
think that they would talk and you'd think that they would simply make the cheaper memory for themselves.
00:22:53
>> You think that many of these companies would talk. >> Yeah, >> they you'd think that, but they don't.
00:22:57
>> Even if they're not um in the same exact way that LG Display and LG aren't, they
00:23:01
are effectively separate. A lot of this happens with Google. I'll talk to Google
00:23:04
and people in different buildings at Google and different departments effectively never communicate with each
00:23:09
other in weird ways. And I wouldn't be shocked if this is the exact >> which is why like random apps get
00:23:13
updated to support different things and then they just don't have very obvious
00:23:17
things with each other. It's it's stupid. Yeah. >> Well, regardless, um Samsung has jacked
00:23:21
up the price of almost a dozen Galaxy phones and tablets uh to up to $280 from as little as $40 to as high as $280.
00:23:31
The ZFold 7 last week already had its price increased by about $80 across models. uh which makes the one terabyte
00:23:38
model $2,500 and the 512 gigabyte model $2,200. Uh but now they're raising the
00:23:44
price of pretty much all the models except for the standard S26 series and the Ultra. Uh which it seems like so far
00:23:52
>> I think that they're doing that because they're trying, you know, that's their
00:23:54
their most sold phones in the US besides like the A series are the S20, you know,
00:24:00
S26 Ultra and the main S26 series. And also they have those they have all the carrier partners with, you know, Verizon
00:24:05
and AT&T and whatnot. I think they're trying to pad the margin on everything
00:24:10
else. So most of their tablets went up in price. >> Dude, the S11 Ultra 1 TB is the $280
00:24:17
jump. >> That's crazy. >> That's three. It went from 1619 to
00:24:21
$18.99 >> for S26. >> No, the S11 Ultra tablet. Yeah, it's >> 1 TB version.
00:24:27
>> Went from what to what? >> 16819 to 1899. 280 bucks. It honestly seems like the things they sell the
00:24:33
least amount of they raise the prices on the most. So, I think they're just trying to figure out how to pad the
00:24:39
margin on on the perimeter. Yeah, >> it's going to be interesting to see if
00:24:42
all the other phone companies start jacking their prices up this year. We haven't really seen that yet. This is
00:24:46
kind of the first. >> I heard the memory crisis was almost over. >> Yeah, I mean, there was a thing with
00:24:54
like OpenAI didn't actually purchase all the memory and it started to go down a
00:24:58
little bit, but apparently it's still a major problem. It's definitely still a
00:25:01
problem, but maybe with a maybe with a light at the end of the tunnel. >> Sure, the variability of it is a major
00:25:07
problem. Maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel now, but who knows who's going to screw something up any
00:25:12
day now. >> Yeah. >> By the time between us recording and this coming out,
00:25:15
>> it could change dramatically what could happen. >> True. >> Uh, speaking of companies not really
00:25:20
talking to to themselves, uh, Andrew, do you want to take us through this Google
00:25:24
back button hijacking? I am very passionate about this article because it's something that this feels like
00:25:31
Google made their own version of did they even test this and then realized it and then were like we should fix this.
00:25:36
So do you know what I've never heard the term before but back button hijacking is
00:25:41
>> I think I understand it now. >> Yes. I think everyone's dealt with it
00:25:45
whether it's like clicked in your head of what's going on, but essentially
00:25:48
>> I had never heard of this before you explained it to me, >> but then I explained it and you can like
00:25:52
remember a time it's happened. Everyone's experienced it. Exactly. It's
00:25:55
like when you go to usually more sketchy websites, the >> if you click in from like a Google
00:26:01
search result, you realize that's not the page you want to be on and you click
00:26:03
back and you wind up at the page you were at already. And you click back again and you're still at the same page.
00:26:07
You click back again, you're still at the same page. If you wind up holding that back button, you'll see this big
00:26:13
because that's like when you show your whole history of back. You'll notice
00:26:17
there are like four or five pages between you and the search result you came from. And that's back button
00:26:22
hijacking. There's a bunch of different ways to do it. It's >> a tool that was made for like actually
00:26:28
really specific things. I think someone described like if you're in Gmail and
00:26:32
you're inside of a email and you want to click back, it should take you still to
00:26:37
the Gmail URL but in your inbox instead. That's what it's meant to do. But people
00:26:41
can do that to >> bring it to a super fast loading redirect direct link. So if you're on
00:26:46
all recipes and you go back, it's going to just whip you to all recipes again.
00:26:49
Um >> so annoying. you have to just like mash the back button like seven times
00:26:53
>> or hold it down and come up to I mean I think most people just close the tab and
00:26:57
start Google searching again because that's the easiest way of doing it and it is infuriating.
00:27:02
>> So finally Google is now going to consider this a malicious practice and
00:27:08
if it finds your website is partaking in those practices you could be listed as spam which will impact your performance
00:27:13
in search results. Um, the funniest part of the whole release of this is they said they've noticed a rise in this
00:27:20
behavior. This has been going on for like 10 years. There's no there's no way
00:27:27
now there's a rise in this behavior. Probably because less people are going to websites because it's all getting
00:27:31
scraped from Google. Honestly, probably Gemini started getting pissed when I was
00:27:34
trying to back after scraping all the it kept scraping the same thing over and over again. But like, I'm not going to
00:27:41
be mad. Late is better than never, but >> this should have been fixed a really,
00:27:45
really long time ago. But thank you for finally fixing it. >> I guess they're doing some spring
00:27:48
cleaning, you know. >> Yeah. >> Somebody in like the 70th Google on the
00:27:52
corner logged in one day and was like, I could fix this. >> Oh yeah, he found like that post-it note
00:27:56
that's buried on his desk that's like fix back button hijacking. When did I
00:28:00
write? >> 12 years ago. >> 12 years ago. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That's it. But thank you.
00:28:04
>> Speaking of something that has gotten an update that I would hoped got updated a
00:28:10
long time ago. Yes. Yeah. >> Yes. >> Nailed it. >> Uh, new GoPros. This is like a blast
00:28:16
from You guys remember GoPro? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They're still around. They helped
00:28:20
you GoPro. >> They Well, cuz they've been their lunch has been eaten by Insta 360 and DJI in
00:28:26
the past couple years. >> Yeah. >> But they're still around making action
00:28:28
cameras, making 360 cameras, and they came out with this new camera called the Mission One. It's kind of interesting.
00:28:36
We love these tiny action cameras for being in the corner of a car or being in like the the mounted on the outside of a
00:28:44
car or like a small space where it's kind of a crash cam. If it falls off, it's fine, but it's just sort of an
00:28:49
extra angle that you can get because this camera is so small and versatile, but the quality is not that great.
00:28:56
Typically, it's good enough, but it's not amazing. So, the Mission One is a
00:29:00
new camera that is a larger 1- in sensor, and the entire thing is built around being a cinema grade, like proper
00:29:06
camera. Now, all of this is dependent on the footage actually looking good. But,
00:29:11
this is everything I ever wanted from a GoPro. It frees them up to keep making the Hero like an action cam, a crash
00:29:17
cam, but now with this larger sensor, they've made like an interchangeable lens mount version. They've made a bunch
00:29:23
of accessories where you can, you know, plug in u extra memory. You can plug in microphones. You can pair all sorts of
00:29:30
things to the GoPro. It makes it a much more I don't want to say RX100, but like
00:29:35
a cinema version of an RX100. >> It's rigable. Like you can rig it up to
00:29:40
cage. They showed me a bunch of accessories for it. A cage for it, a bunch of uh underwater shooting
00:29:45
accessories. Uh it'll shoot 8K uh open gate. So four the whole sensor. It's
00:29:51
it's a really convincing set of specs. So, I would like to use it and verify
00:29:56
that the footage actually looks better, but they showed me some footage that they essentially they've rigged this
00:30:01
thing up like with huge lenses and a cage and mics and everything and shot like really good-looking stuff with it.
00:30:06
So, >> I'm I'm curious my attention. The one that most people are interested in is
00:30:11
the ILS, which is interchangeable lens system version. It takes micro four thirds lenses. Um, which is very
00:30:17
interesting. Now, obviously Micro Four Thirds lenses are the small pretty much the smallest lenses that you can get,
00:30:23
you know, and uh so they are, you know, still small, but on a GoPro, they they still look huge.
00:30:29
>> Yeah. >> So, but then Yeah, it's weird. I don't know when I would want to rig up my my
00:30:34
example of when this could be awesome is we shoot inside a car and the car windshield has like a super low rake, so
00:30:40
you can't fit like a Komodo or something in there. You could fit a little GoPro
00:30:44
with like a 70 mil or a 50 mil lens on it. That could be great. >> I guess so.
00:30:50
>> Maybe. >> It's interest. But the the weird thing about it is that the lens mount for
00:30:54
Micro Four Thirds that they have doesn't have any contacts. So, it can't do
00:30:58
autofocus. >> Yes. >> Which is Oh, >> very weird. You have to have all the
00:31:02
cameras that just focusing at infinity or focusing at a very specific distance. >> Yeah.
00:31:07
>> Which is that kind of sucks. >> That's true of the Komodo. I mean, the
00:31:10
Kimoto has autofocus, but we always just manual focus. >> Yeah. But at least you're like carrying
00:31:13
that camera and you can just like rack focus. But if you if this is mounted in a car or on the side of a car,
00:31:19
>> yeah, in the corner, you have to like set the focus very specifically and then
00:31:22
what happens if it like changes? And >> I don't know. It's strange.
00:31:25
>> Is there is there focus peaking? Are there like assists in the camera? >> Probably. Most likely. And they'll they
00:31:31
have like a lot of very capable software things already built in. So, I wouldn't
00:31:35
be shocked if they added more over time, but like I think it shoots 8K 60 or 4K 240.
00:31:41
>> Yeah. uh which there's not a lot of other cameras that do that period.
00:31:45
>> I'm I'm kind of interested because as someone who really likes shooting uh
00:31:49
vintage like 16 mm and 8 millime film lenses um like a the micro four third standard is like really easy to adapt
00:31:58
vintage glass to. >> And if the GoPro has a 1 in sensor, >> yeah, >> this might actually be like the best
00:32:05
vintage glass rig >> possible. could be interesting, >> especially if there are focus assists
00:32:10
because it's really hard to find >> Yeah. >> affordable micro four thirds cameras
00:32:14
that have focus assists in them. >> Yeah. Yeah. Pretty different. I I think
00:32:19
I saw something that said like this is the first time in 22 years that they have released a GoPro that is not under
00:32:23
the Hero line. >> Yeah. >> Which is crazy. So, it's a big jump for
00:32:26
them. They needed it cuz they were like on the verge of bankruptcy. So, hopefully this is successful for them.
00:32:32
They're also releasing a new wireless lav mic set that looks almost identical
00:32:38
to the DJI ones. >> I think it's a necessity they have to do that. Yeah.
00:32:42
>> Like that is the best part about the action cam is that you can just plug
00:32:45
those DJI mics in. Like this turns into a camera that you could buy starting out
00:32:51
trying to make some sort of a YouTube channel or content. >> This could be an awesome vlog camera.
00:32:55
All this is the asterisk of like does the footage actually look good? But this could be a great vlog camera.
00:32:59
>> Yeah, maybe. >> Yeah. Yeah. The sad part about these mics is that they do not do 32-bit float
00:33:03
like the DJI ones do. >> So, got it. >> There's so many so many asterisks
00:33:08
necessary there. >> Yeah. >> I forget the exact thing, but it's just
00:33:12
like all of those wireless mics are like we do 32-bit float if you stand on one leg and put your hand over your head and
00:33:18
use them in exactly this workflow. >> Full moon. >> Yeah, it is like
00:33:23
>> Got it. >> Yeah, it's it's nonsense. >> Okay. Well, yeah, that should be
00:33:27
interesting. Did you already got them in, right? I saw you took a photo of They brought them here. They showed them
00:33:31
to us. Uh, I got to handle them for an hour and then they left and they were like, "Trust me, we'll send you one."
00:33:36
So, I'm like, "Yes, please let me try them. I want to shoot 8K 60 log 30 fps
00:33:41
open gate in my in a handheld camera. Like, that just sounds awesome." >> Yeah.
00:33:46
>> So, hopefully soon. >> I can't wait for the autofocus video with you using these.
00:33:50
>> Yeah, I can shoot an autofocus video with it. >> I can't wait till Ellis is walking
00:33:53
around Brooklyn with his vintage glass on the newest GoPro taking photos. get one in. I'll order a a a micro four
00:34:02
thirds to CMount adapter and I'll 3D print something goofy and uh I will I will make the the vintage GoPro camera.
00:34:10
>> It seems perfect for that. They showed me uh >> shutter accessory.
00:34:14
>> Is that >> Oh, no. They showed me they had adapted to PL mount >> and they put a massive cinema lens on it
00:34:21
for some reason. >> It's like a 30x crop factor. What do you mean for some reason? That's awesome.
00:34:25
It's so tiny. If you're going to rig that much up, you might as well throw
00:34:29
like a komoto in. >> 28 meter is going to be like a 120 equivalent on that thing price.
00:34:35
>> No, we don't. Um I can do my best guessing job. I think it'll be under
00:34:40
a,000. I think it'll be over the current GoPro post tariff pricing is like $400
00:34:46
something dollars, right? >> This might be the greatest vintage glass camera, dude. If straight up if there's
00:34:52
like focus peaking and magnification in it for like >> Oh my god. >> Yeah.
00:34:59
>> So you don't era has has peaked. >> If you want to do this with an actual
00:35:04
micro four thirds camera like you don't get those features until you're spending
00:35:07
like $900 on a used camera which is like >> kind of defeats the point. Anyway,
00:35:11
sorry. >> Uh another quick story. Google randomly released this new spotlight for Windows
00:35:17
application, which is actually quite cool. Uh, it's a little floating window
00:35:22
that pops up when you use a keyboard shortcut, >> right? >> And and you can ask it for a context
00:35:28
about your screen. It can do screen recordings. You can use Google Lens to sort of drag your cursor over something
00:35:34
and it'll Google it for you. >> It can access files on your computer and
00:35:38
it can access files on your Google Drive all at once. M. >> So, it's kind of like this cool hybrid
00:35:44
like on device and also in cloud little popup box that you could just call at any time.
00:35:50
>> Dare I say this is just a >> this is just a better version of Copilot
00:35:55
is like what I was thinking. >> Yeah, I was going to say this is kind of fire. This is I don't have Chromebook,
00:35:59
but I want most of the nice parts of >> I mean more people use like Google Drive
00:36:03
than use One Drive. Exactly. >> And it's only works on Windows. So >> this is like Google co-work
00:36:09
>> kind of >> like flawed coowork but Googleified. >> Well, it can't really do things for you
00:36:12
but >> Well, you said it could like reach into drive and local. >> Yeah, it can search.
00:36:17
>> Oh, it can only search. So, you can't like copy it from one place to another
00:36:19
or like manipulate. >> I think you can tell it to like rename a bunch of files in your downloads folder.
00:36:24
That's like the classic work example. >> It doesn't have like autonomous like it
00:36:29
can't do things for you autonomously. When I say like you can access those files, it's like you you you do a search
00:36:35
and it's like a universal search that goes between your desktop and also your
00:36:38
Google Drive. >> So, it's still handy. >> It's interesting. >> Um, and it's quite cool. And it's cool
00:36:43
that just like floats to the side and you can just like invoke it with a keyboard shortcut. So,
00:36:48
>> I don't know why they made this or why they made this now super random, but
00:36:52
it's very cool and I wish they had it for >> Have you ever tried to search for a
00:36:56
local file on a Windows computer? That That's why they made it. >> Yeah. just why in 2026 that's been a
00:37:01
problem for like 30 years. >> Can they make search in Gmail better? >> Yeah, I was gonna say this company is
00:37:06
good at some search and bad at some search. >> Yeah, I you know what I really want on
00:37:11
mobile version of Gmail, there's the all mail function. They do not have that on
00:37:15
the desktop and you have to like keep changing your accounts over and over again.
00:37:19
>> It's so annoying. >> Anyway, I would love that. Unless you have sidebyside browser windows open
00:37:24
>> like a king. >> Like a king. I want to hit you with the dumbest headline I saw today.
00:37:30
>> Hit me. >> You all talked about it before. I was trying to keep this a secret, but it
00:37:34
sounds like half you read this. Uh, so struggling shoe retailer Allirds makes bizarre pivot from shoes to AI. Stock
00:37:40
explodes more than 700%. >> 700%. >> Did you hear about this this morning
00:37:44
when they were talking about serious? >> Okay, cool. >> That's that is the dumbest thing.
00:37:47
>> So allirds is pivoting from shoes to AI. They're going to sell off their shoe
00:37:51
assets to American Exchange for $39 million. They quote, "They are going to pivot its
00:37:59
business to AI compute infrastructure with a long-term vision to become a fully integrated GPU as a service GPU."
00:38:06
AAS, >> this is >> there's more. >> Was this April Fool's Day at this?
00:38:10
>> No. Everything I said had to have a line that said, "This is real." It says, "An
00:38:15
AI native cloud solutions provider. In connection with this pivot, the company anticipates changing its names to New
00:38:20
Bird AI." >> New bird. This reads strikingly like an April Fool's joke.
00:38:26
>> This really reads like an AI. >> Look at this stock chart. >> Wow.
00:38:29
>> Holy crap. >> So, they also, >> it's not the onion. >> Because of this pivot, they proposed to
00:38:34
their um shareholders if they could remove all references to the company being operated for the environmental
00:38:40
conservation public benefit. >> Oh my god. >> Imagine saying that out loud.
00:38:45
>> This reads now. Now, are you sure it's not the onion? Cuz that's
00:38:48
>> onion's like we're out of a job. >> Crazy. Wait, so they're selling the shoe
00:38:52
company? >> They're selling all their shoe assets >> to who? >> Uh, American Exchange Group.
00:38:58
>> Just like the shoes and the designs. I'm assuming the rest of the >> Are they still going to be sold under
00:39:03
all birds? >> It sounds They're changing their name to New Bird AI. >> Yeah. So, their shoes will be Old Birds.
00:39:09
>> This is the biggest it game plan I've ever seen. Like, they thought that they
00:39:14
were going to be a tech company because they were selling products to tech people, but it wasn't really tech. And
00:39:20
then they've just been in Silicon Valley so long they're like it. >> From the articles I read, it basically
00:39:24
was like our evaluation when we IPOed was like four billion and now it's so so
00:39:30
so so much less than that they're like we need to do something else because we're IPO and we have to please share.
00:39:37
>> They at 1,000. Wait, that that can't be right. That's $1 million a share.
00:39:43
>> I don't know enough about the stock market, but I do think 4 billion is
00:39:46
maybe a little bit silly for a shoe company. >> That is so crazy. I mean, >> dude, do you remember when allirds first
00:39:51
came out? They were >> so popular. They were so high. >> Yeah, but valuation of 2.2 to4 billion
00:39:58
when they IPOed in 2021. >> I'm just googling how much Nike is worth right now. 67 billion.
00:40:04
>> Damn. >> Okay, I guess that is pretty, >> dude. Allirds are so hyped.
00:40:13
>> Everyone loves them. >> Are the shoes on sale right now? >> Apparently through American Exchange,
00:40:18
whatever. Crazy. Well, rip. >> Your new Your new Allirds come with a GPU. Actually, they don't. You have to
00:40:24
pay with a GPU so they can put it in their infrastructure. >> And people still say we're not in a
00:40:28
bubble. >> Let's see how this go. Let's see how this goes for them.
00:40:32
>> This may age incredibly poorly. >> I mean, honestly, maybe GoPro should
00:40:34
have done the same thing. You know what I mean? It's like if you're going to
00:40:37
sync, you might as well become an AI company before you sync. >> I guess so. Yeah.
00:40:42
>> Just paint AI over your company and hope that it changes. >> They already have the first two letters.
00:40:47
They got the G and the P, you know, in GoPro. We're just the U of >> GoPro universe. GoPro universe.
00:40:53
>> Oh my god. >> That could be their um >> Good for them. >> Their online crypto,
00:40:57
>> I guess. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that's crazy. Get your bag. >> Their company's not going to die.
00:41:01
>> The straight up just asking if we can remove all references that we care about
00:41:05
the environment is a wild thing to put out in the public. >> You can't really say you do when you
00:41:10
just run a GPU farm. It's not really compatible. Hey, hey, hey. What if you like heated your pool with it or
00:41:17
something? Then, you know, technically you're removing. >> Isn't that what Linus did in one of his
00:41:21
videos? >> I think he he >> he cooled his is the other way around. He cooled his computers off with the
00:41:26
pool water. Correct. >> Oh, yeah. I mean, >> it would be crazy to heat your pool with
00:41:31
the That's the same. >> Yeah. Then the pool water goes back into the pool and it's warmer.
00:41:35
>> Yeah. The difference it would make to the pool versus the difference between
00:41:38
temperatures is >> I don't know. Depends on how many computers you got.
00:41:42
>> Damn. Heat the oceans. All right. Uh we're going to take a break. We'll be
00:41:47
back with some uh updates from the last year that all have lots of updates that we can tell you about. So, it's going to
00:41:53
be fun. But first, you know what doesn't get updated that we do every single
00:41:57
week? >> Trivia. >> Dude, >> guys, we're pivoting the podcast.
00:42:04
Guys, we all know GoPro for its hero and now mission line of little tiny cameras.
00:42:12
But from 2016 to 2018, GoPro briefly entered this adjacent product category. What is it?
00:42:20
>> What What was the year timeline? >> 2016 to 2018. It didn't go well and they
00:42:25
stopped. >> Oh, I think I might have had that product. >> GoPro entered. GoPro entered and then
00:42:30
promptly left >> shoes. >> Yeah. >> All birds >> GPU compute.
00:42:37
>> Huh. Okay. All right. >> GPUs. >> Well, we'll think about it. It's a blast
00:42:40
from the past. Kind of like the rest of this episode. Yeah. >> Answers will be at the end like usual.
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00:43:56
this segment where we mostly talk about things that may sound familiar because they're updates to things that we've
00:44:04
previously talked about. This segment is called circling back >> re my last conversation.
00:44:12
>> We're not even sure if it's going to be a segment, but that's too good of a
00:44:15
name, so it's now a segment. >> Even if it's just a one time segment per
00:44:17
my last email. All right, first up, uh, we talked about Kabi Lame's near billiondoll deal. Something about he was
00:44:26
like selling his company and his image for unlimited use to turn into like an AI likeness. Yeah. Content generator
00:44:35
version of himself or something for a billion dollars. >> Yep. >> Um, we were a little skeptical because
00:44:41
they promised to make like hundreds of millions of dollars off of his likeness in like no time. turned out we were
00:44:47
right to be skeptical. >> Yeah. >> Uh they they essentially paid him in
00:44:52
stock and then obviously all those headlines go out, the stock price goes up and then shortly after crashes and is
00:45:00
I don't want to say worthless now, but I think you understand the risk of a all
00:45:05
stock deal when they're promising you billions of dollars like that. It was a
00:45:08
rugpull. It's very similar to what happens in crypto coins. Yeah. Where they basically like IPOed it and then
00:45:14
they merged like his image as a new company and then a ton of fans bought a ton of stock because they're like, "Oh,
00:45:20
they're going to make hundreds of billions of dollars and then all of a sudden the price completely cor
00:45:25
collapsed. Uh which means that the company probably had most of the stock >> and probably sold it all.
00:45:32
>> Yeah. And now Kabil Lame doesn't own his likeness or have any of the stock.
00:45:40
>> No, but he might have made the money. We're not really sure. >> That's the tough part about this is
00:45:44
Yeah, >> he might have been the rug. >> It is a weird thing though where lots of
00:45:47
company Well, you don't know for sure, but lots of companies tag on to people
00:45:51
with a lot of influence and then rugpool under them because then that person with
00:45:56
influence as the public facing person gets to uh they get all they get. Nobody's talking about Sparkle Holdings.
00:46:04
>> Yeah, even though they probably should be. >> Everything's a scam these days. Pretty
00:46:08
much. >> Everything's a scam. >> If someone offers you a billion dollars
00:46:10
for your likeness, maybe think a little bit more about that. >> If you're getting offered more than the
00:46:15
highest contract in the MLB, there's probably something wrong with that. >> He does have more followers than that
00:46:21
person. >> True. >> Is that um >> Wanoto? You can do this. Uh >> what's his
00:46:27
>> You're thinking Show. >> Yeah. Show Otani. Was Juan Sodto Sports
00:46:31
>> Janoto? >> Yeah. >> 765 million. I only know because I reference it every time a company gets
00:46:36
sold. No, no, no, no. Over 10ish years. >> Show was a billion. >> Was show bigger or but didn't show have
00:46:43
like a bunch? I don't know. Wanotos was after. Maybe I just use Wanotos because
00:46:49
there's lots of tech companies that get sold for less money than Wanoto is making.
00:46:53
>> That's crazy. >> And that's hilarious. >> Wow. Woto should buy Apple.
00:46:57
Speaking of scams, >> as you said, >> um, yeah, NZXT and their Flex PC
00:47:03
rentals. Do you remember that at all? >> Yes, >> that's a fun one. Um,
00:47:07
>> big Gamers Nexus investigation into this. >> Exactly. If you really want everything
00:47:12
that happened here, there's about 7 hours of footage from Gamers Nexus. That
00:47:15
is really, really interesting. But really quick, TLDDR 2024 NZXT was renting out computers on a
00:47:22
subscriptionbased uh basis. The weird thing about it was one when you you didn't buy the computer outright. When
00:47:28
you got to the price of the computer, that was crazy. Some of the times you would switch from buying the computer to
00:47:34
renting the computer on their website. It would change the specs without really noticing. So, you get a worse computer.
00:47:40
And then they had a bunch of uh like promotions and integrations where I don't know if they told the people to
00:47:45
say this, but somebody was saying something like >> you could rent this computer and then
00:47:50
win a Fortnite tournament and then buy a computer. like >> it's it's like one of those like it's
00:47:54
basically making you money. You're losing money by >> by not doing it.
00:47:58
>> Really really sketchy, >> borderline scammy, if not a total scam.
00:48:04
Um but they just reached a settlement um for $3.4 million I think $3.45 million. Essentially in the
00:48:15
lawsuit it's saying that uh people who are getting collected debt from which
00:48:20
apparently some of the in uh except apparently some of the instances were like people actually paid and they still
00:48:25
have debt collectors coming at them. So it just sounds like this the company that they're working with I forget the
00:48:30
name in here uh is doing it really poorly. So some people who are paying they're going to get money back from the
00:48:36
settlement and then some people who were paying for over two years they're saying
00:48:41
get to own the computer outright. Yeah. Um, and the weird thing is though, NZXT is still offering some rental programs.
00:48:47
They've changed a couple things in it, but it still seems really sketchy. Don't
00:48:52
rent a computer. It's stupid. It also >> if you're renting a computer, the
00:48:57
computer's changed so much that it's going to be likeing obsolete by the time
00:49:00
you >> don't even get to pay it off. I don't even know what's rent a center's entire,
00:49:05
you know, entire point. That's the reason that was basically a scam, too. >> Yeah. So,
00:49:10
>> yeah. Go watch the Gamers Nexus video for the whole thing on this, but um
00:49:13
NZXT, >> that sucks. >> This is extra lame because they were target I mean, if you're talking about
00:49:19
you could win a Fortnite tournament and then buy your own computer, they're probably kind of targeting 15year-olds.
00:49:24
Oh yeah. >> You know, it's like kids who probably don't have enough money to buy a gaming
00:49:28
PC and then they entice you with this idea of like you could win this thing that you play all the time and then you
00:49:35
could buy it yourself and you don't have any money and like >> predatory.
00:49:38
>> That's super predatory. And also by doing that is like when you look at a
00:49:41
computer at first that's maybe close to your price range, maybe it's like
00:49:45
$1,200, then you go to the rental version, which is showing a monthly payment, then you're like, "Oh, I can
00:49:49
bump up the specs on this a little bit." It's it's only changing my rental price
00:49:52
a couple dollars a month. And then >> it's not that far off from like car
00:49:56
payments at this point, like tacking on extra trim levels and stuff. So, but when you're targeting Fortnite players,
00:50:01
which we all know is a certain age group, >> Yeah. >> you're targeting the most vulnerable
00:50:05
part of that. >> For sure. Yeah. Very lame, but good lame that um this lawsuit went through. So,
00:50:11
I'm glad that people are getting the money back. >> Agreed. >> Do you want to do the uh
00:50:14
>> Yeah. Yeah. Next one. We This was only a few weeks ago that this happened, but um
00:50:18
you know, things of this administration changed very quickly. We didn't know
00:50:22
why, but the Pentagon decided to ban all routers from being imported into the US
00:50:30
in the future uh that were not made in America, which is really >> So, all routers?
00:50:35
>> So, all routers? Yeah, >> practically maybe not Cisco, but they're
00:50:39
probably still assembled in Vietnam or something. Um, yeah. So, we don't really
00:50:42
know why, but just today the FCC gave NET or I guess yesterday the FCC gave Netgear conditional approval to import
00:50:50
future routers, modems, and gateways into the US through October 1st of 2027. Netgear has not announced any plans to
00:50:57
bring its manufacturing to the United States. Um, and the Pentagon has stated that such devices do not pose risk to
00:51:04
the US national security. Uh, so Pete Hexath, why did you ban them in the first place?
00:51:09
>> Tell me that. >> You know what's funny? Netgear was one of the main targets of the the Chinese
00:51:15
hacking group attack. >> Yeah, >> that was because a bunch of people did a
00:51:18
really bad job of updating the security issues with it. But Netgear's like the
00:51:24
the the router that got hacked in the whole thing they're referencing for doing the banning list,
00:51:29
>> right? And they said they wasn't like explicitly Netgear's fault because it
00:51:33
was some like ISP firmware thing that happened to go through the router. >> I think it was just an lacking of
00:51:38
updating a security measure the routers, >> right? Um so I'm not saying this was a
00:51:44
bribe, but I'm not saying it wasn't a bribe. Just going to say >> you're not not saying
00:51:50
>> I'm not not saying allegedly. >> Do you know what email I did get this
00:51:53
morning? What >> from Netgear? It says Netgear is the first retail consumer router company to
00:51:58
receive conditional approval from the FCC and then a whole thing about how um they're the first ever retail customer
00:52:04
>> first ever with conditional approval. >> Two weeks ago when this first changed.
00:52:08
>> Yeah. The FCC called for stronger safety and security standards. This aligns with
00:52:12
our security first approach. And >> that's like when businesses like put
00:52:16
outside their business establish 2026 and you're like, "Okay, >> that doesn't really help."
00:52:23
>> Um, >> yeah. So, >> yeah, the funny thing about that, most people that got that email probably
00:52:27
don't even know what happened. >> They probably don't even know that the
00:52:30
routers got banned because you've got to be pretty in the weeds to know that the
00:52:34
Pentagon decided to ban routers that were coming from not the United States. So, we'll see if this extends to more
00:52:41
router companies. Um, it would be very strange if Netgear was the only company allowed to sell routers in the United
00:52:46
States in the future, >> given they are probably one of the larger router manufacturers in the US,
00:52:51
unless you're a big gamer that can afford this and can buy like a Asus, you know, whatever. The spider one. Yeah,
00:52:59
the one that looks like a spider. >> So, I don't know. It's weird. All right,
00:53:05
we got one more that is a it's a far call back to a very early episode. Yeah,
00:53:09
but I think arguably one of the biggest things despite it sounding like it has absolutely nothing to do with tech, John
00:53:14
Deere just settled for a $99 million lawsuit over right to repair, >> which was one of our first ever bonus
00:53:23
episodes. >> Was it really >> right to repair episode where we talked
00:53:26
to John Deere and a couple of right to repair advocates. >> Yeah, John Deere is like this thing
00:53:30
where in the tech world doesn't feel like it has anything to do with us, but
00:53:33
they are just >> Right to repair hates John Deere because of all the stuff that they do. Yeah.
00:53:38
>> Um, so this is obviously much larger. $99 million to farmers in a class action
00:53:43
lawsuit that accuses them of preventing farmers or mechanics from being able to repair their equipment.
00:53:48
>> Um, with the new lawsuit, John Deere is going to make repair resources, this is
00:53:53
where I was a little confused, available for 10 years based on a license or subscriptions, which
00:53:57
>> what >> sounds like not the best way of doing this. Um I'm not totally sure how that's
00:54:03
working out, but um they have agreed to allow owners and shops to run diagnostics on equipment while in
00:54:08
offline mode by the end of the year, which is huge because previously what you had to do if you were a farmer who
00:54:13
had a giant tractor break is bring it to an authorized dealer to get it fixed, >> which is probably very far away from
00:54:20
your farm, >> from your farm. And the equipment you're bringing in is probably um heavy
00:54:25
>> and it has to be during business hours. It has to be like there have to be
00:54:28
people that know how to fix it. It's probably going to take them at least a weeks to fix it. And I remember talking
00:54:32
to some farmers about this and they were like it would just throw like the most basic system error that like I should be
00:54:38
able to fix with a wrench, but because I I can't access the firmware, I can't do
00:54:43
anything to it. >> And it was a it was a whole thing. >> Yeah. You need to get it like towed to
00:54:47
the nearest retail. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. But the lawsuit was filed in 2022. And while the cinnamon's not
00:54:53
perfect, this still in the right to repair world has got to be one of the biggest wins. Whether it's a perfect win
00:54:59
or not, probably one of the biggest wins in the battle of right to repair. >> Yeah. I'm curious what the details of
00:55:05
that like subscription to be able to fix your thing. >> My first thought was do just some
00:55:10
different non authorized retailers can they like buy a subscription to access different parts if they're not the
00:55:17
owner? So like maybe different because it mentions mechanics. So maybe there are mechanics that aren't authorized and
00:55:22
maybe they can >> somehow pay to have subscriptions or licenses for repairing equipment. So it
00:55:28
doesn't have to be only specific ones. >> Yeah. >> Not totally sure. But
00:55:32
>> yeah, this is one of those things that you don't really realize has been like
00:55:35
completely upended by technology. You know, tractors and farming in general have been like they use a lot of AI
00:55:42
stuff now to detect what's a weed and what's a crop. And uh it's to the point
00:55:47
where like you kind of have to use this stuff because if you're using traditional equipment, it's going to be
00:55:52
you're going to be way way way behind in the amount amount of stuff that you can
00:55:56
harvest, >> but at the same time, you have no control. You're basically selling your
00:55:59
soul to like a giant farming company that allows you to use this stuff and you can't fix it yourself. And it's like
00:56:06
a catch 22. >> It's very annoying and hopefully fixed soon. >> Yeah.
00:56:09
>> And I hope it the legal precedent extends to like other sort of industries. I I've been hearing a lot uh
00:56:17
that like things like cement mixers or weed whackers are also slightly different because it's not like they're
00:56:23
using AI, but it's like it's the same thing where it's like there's no reason
00:56:26
these things are not repairable other than the companies who make them refuse to sell spare parts at a fair price.
00:56:34
>> Yeah. Yeah, sounds about right. I mean, we saw a couple years ago Apple started
00:56:38
selling like their own parts repair kits and at first it was like a large large heavy box that like made it very
00:56:45
difficult to use, but they've gotten better over time. So, we often New York
00:56:49
laws that were passed a couple years ago about right to prepare. So, I think we're we're going we're getting there.
00:56:53
>> Precedent. More precedents that get set the better. >> Yeah. >> That episode was so long ago I don't
00:56:58
even think Ellis was here yet. >> I don't think so. No, right to repair
00:57:02
deep dive was like episode three of >> 2020 waveform. >> That episode is so I wasn't even born
00:57:07
yet. >> Actually, that was that even video waveform or was it >> I went to double video.
00:57:13
>> I think it was the first ever bonus episode. >> You guys published that episode by
00:57:16
speaking into a can. >> I just went straight to >> Yeah. >> Marquez, you typed breaking news in
00:57:25
>> breaking news. >> Breaking news. >> Breaking news fish. That's a hilarious
00:57:29
reference. Um, I just got an email that uh Gemini for Mac just got released. It is essentially the same thing that we
00:57:36
were talking about earlier with for Windows. >> Oh, >> but it's also now on the Mac. So, if you
00:57:41
go to gemini.com gemini.google, it's the same thing. >> That's such a funny URL.
00:57:49
>> Yeah. Gemini.google, but it's >> pancakes.baconjam. >> It's essentially like it's the same
00:57:55
thing. It replaces your keyboard shortcut. So, like right now you can replace Spotlight with whatever
00:57:59
alternative. You can have this replace Spotlight and then jump in and access your files or your Google Drive or your
00:58:05
whatever and it's your chatbot into your Gemini or desktop. >> Google's going to Sherlock Spotlight.
00:58:11
>> Oh my god. >> Well, what is the shortcut to activate this? Do you have it installed yet?
00:58:16
>> I do have it installed already. And the shortcut is customizable, but by default
00:58:21
your mini chat shortcut is command is option space and your full chat shortcut is option shift space.
00:58:28
>> But I think I can change that. Yeah, I can just change that to whatever.
00:58:30
>> I just want it to be space. >> I want that crazy. >> I want to change it to control because
00:58:36
then I could just use all of them. I'll have command space for spotlight, >> option space for raycast, and then
00:58:42
control space for Google Gemini. It's also funny because control is generally
00:58:46
the hotkey for Windows >> 10 years a Gemini thing. >> I can't wait to be really old and
00:58:51
talking to my great grandkids and say something like, "I remember when Google
00:58:55
Sherlocked Spotlight and also turned Raycast into Clubhouse." And they be like, "Oh man, you really need to be in
00:59:01
a home." >> It's time for a grandpa. >> That happened right
00:59:09
>> back in the AI wars. I I talked about it on a podcast once. >> What's a Dad? What's a podcast? Grandpa
00:59:16
Sure, Grandpa. It's time to take a nap. >> It was an audio feed. It was It was
00:59:20
syndicated really simply. >> You joke, but you will be telling them about >> You mean Spotify?
00:59:26
>> Yeah. No, they don't even Spotify will be long gone. >> It'll be a They're going to rebrand to
00:59:31
an AI a GPU company at some point. There will just be like one giant data center somewhere in the desert that
00:59:38
makes one continuous song with AI and you just you just sort of tune in to see what's going on with the song. It's like
00:59:45
perpetual stew of music. >> Oh, I hate that. Someone code this. I want that.
00:59:51
>> I'm surprised you haven't already. This is like I remember like so long ago I
00:59:56
met someone who was at a VC firm that was like working on this exact project or it wasn't this exact project but the
01:00:01
idea was like what if you could turn one song into an entire day's listening
01:00:06
experience with generative AI. So like >> they would add guitar solos and then one
01:00:10
idea they pitched was they were like yeah at one point like the music will sort of get really quiet and it'll be
01:00:15
like a a podcast about the song and it's like >> that guy's listening to this episode and
01:00:20
he's like it didn't sound that stupid >> I thought it was cool this was like 2017
01:00:28
like like very early trans like before AIs could generate any of these things. So, it was very like pie in the sky. And
01:00:34
I remember being like, "That sounds kind of interesting." And now that they can,
01:00:37
I'm like, "Oh my god." Before we move on, I just want to say I while we're
01:00:41
talking about AI music, I was in a coffee shop >> last weekend. I know. Wow.
01:00:46
>> Was it outside? >> I was in it was in it was an indoor building, >> I think.
01:00:51
>> But, um, >> interesting. >> Uh, listen to a song. I was like,
01:00:55
interesting song. Next song I was like, this coffee shop dude's, you know, pretty middle of the road. And then um
01:01:01
that song died down and I just heard, "Okay, Michael, I'm glad you enjoyed that." And I was
01:01:08
like, "No, >> they're not. They're using the Spotify DJ in the coffee shop."
01:01:14
>> What's up, David? >> That's great. Quick update, >> Dave Punk, bringing it home.
01:01:18
>> You can make control space the shortcut. >> Sick. >> So, if you want, you can live this life.
01:01:24
>> You got Claude on one, you got Gemini on the other. Tap tap tap lock. >> That was a very uh Linux coded sentence
01:01:33
of you because it's command space on Mac OS. Anyway, are we ready for trivia?
01:01:37
>> I use Arch by the way. I am ready for trivia. >> Nice. >> Let's get it.
01:01:42
>> I need the points. >> Here's your trivia question number two earlier. I don't remember what we were
01:01:48
talking about. We were talking about temperature and Celsius. Oh, it was the bug.
01:01:51
>> It was the bug. >> That's what it was. >> So, here's your question.
01:01:54
>> Oh, no. >> 32 degrees C is what in Fahrenheit? That's so obvious.
01:01:59
>> I'm glad I know that. I thought the nearest tenth of the decimal without
01:02:03
going over. >> Oh, wait. >> Oh, no. >> Yeah, you guys are backwards the other
01:02:07
way around. >> You said 32 Celsius. >> 32 Celsius. >> Oh, whoops. Okay.
01:02:12
>> Uh-huh. >> I'll I'll think >> everyone in other countries is yelling
01:02:16
at us right now. >> Well, no, because they have to know Fahrenheit. Yeah, it's just the other
01:02:20
way around. >> I think 32 Celsius is enough to kill a bear with the amount of caffeine.
01:02:26
But maybe maybe that's just me. >> Um, okay. >> Nice. >> How much
01:02:33
>> how much caffeine would kill a bear? I did do a lot of research in how much
01:02:37
caffeine would kill a person. Cocaine bear because I had a crazy experience. >> Dude, someone asked this question on
01:02:44
Reddit, word for word, four weeks ago. How much caffeine would I need to kill a bear with a heart attack?
01:02:50
>> What kind of bear? >> Yeah, brown bear or black bear. They're
01:02:53
very different bears or polar bear >> like a man. >> No. >> The top comment is 200. They say first
01:03:00
of all it would die of a seizure, not a heart attack. Second of all, uh 200 cups
01:03:04
for a black bear, 400 cups for a grizzly bear. Assuming this random reb Reddit comment,
01:03:11
>> you know, a good way to tell the difference between >> between what?
01:03:13
>> Black bear and a grizzly bear >> if it's alive after 200 cups.
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All right, welcome back. I have a sports question that Marquez is going to explain in tech terms, which is kind of
01:04:40
weird because it feels like the basis of the question already kind of is within tech itself.
01:04:45
>> Correct. >> There's also a reason in the beginning Marquez said it's a sports related thing
01:04:49
and not a golf related thing because I'm sure most people wouldn't make it this
01:04:52
far into the podcast if they knew it was about golf. >> Too bad you're here. Don't go away.
01:04:57
>> Okay. So, I saw this. >> Do you mean regular golf or ball golf? >> Ball golf.
01:05:00
>> Okay. What? >> Not disc golf. >> Or wait, >> not the superior. What is regular golf
01:05:05
then? >> Ball golf. >> The original. >> No, no, no. SORRY. >> YOU STOLE THIS OUT.
01:05:10
>> We're disc golf fans here. >> Oh, I knew that. Uh, we So, so regular
01:05:15
is disc is what you're saying. >> You're saying it's superior.
01:05:17
>> That's the joke. No, I feel like this is not even Please just continue.
01:05:21
>> Okay. So, >> yeah, >> the original tweet was actually from Andrew Martinick and he said, "Imagine
01:05:26
being this crazy about your custom 3D printed irons and losing in every serious tournament to guys who don't do
01:05:31
any of that and just play with normal equipment." And it's referencing a tweet
01:05:34
about Bryson Desau and his 3D printed five iron where a reporter asked, "Are
01:05:39
you satisfied with the five?" He said, "Yeah, I mean, I only hit it once
01:05:42
today." And the reporter said, "How long does it take to make?" Where he replied,
01:05:45
"Prints in 8 hours. Machines, they're three or four hours. Then you have to
01:05:49
cut grooves in it and a bunch of other stuff so you can have something within a day and a half.
01:05:53
>> If it's 30 printed, is it still made of iron?" >> I'm so confused.
01:05:57
>> It's called a five iron >> about this. Well, I mean, honestly, I am
01:06:01
confused about the material of >> I thought you said this was about sports.
01:06:06
>> Wow. >> This was at the Masters this week. >> Disrespect is crazy. Yeah. Explain tech,
01:06:10
>> which is like the minor league of golf. >> Yeah. No, >> it's it's the one with the really cheap
01:06:14
food. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. Okay. I'm glad you went there. So,
01:06:18
in order to understand why this is weird, you need to understand a little bit more about golf and about Bryson.
01:06:24
golf, uh, you have a set of 18 clubs you're allowed to carry and every club is typically a different loft and
01:06:31
different length. So the higher the ball goes, the more lofted it is and the shorter the club,
01:06:36
>> which is the angle of the head. >> Yeah. >> Right. So a 9 iron will have a lot of
01:06:40
loft and will be shorter. And you go all the way to like a 4iron and it will be not very lofted to go farther and the
01:06:46
club is longer. >> When you say the club is, you mean the head is shorter or longer or the length
01:06:50
of like where the handle is? The length of the club. >> Okay. So, every iron has a different
01:06:55
angle and has a different physical length from ground to hands. >> Yes. Okay.
01:07:00
>> And that's to give you this smooth transition from the shortest clubs all
01:07:03
the way to the longest club in the bag, which is the driver, which has the least
01:07:06
loft. Longest club goes the farthest, biggest swing. >> Can I ask a stupid question?
01:07:10
>> Go ahead. >> Which is the one that I use for mini golf? >> You have a putter for mini golf, which
01:07:14
is the shortest club. >> They're all putters and it goes the shortest distance. It happens to have
01:07:19
basically no loft. typically actually has one degree of loss, but we'll ignore
01:07:23
that. So, uh, Bryson is a bit of an unusual golfer. Bryson has this history of the last couple years, uh, of really
01:07:32
tweaking his clubs and trying to optimize his swing because the best golfers in the world are the most
01:07:37
consistent golfers in the world. And he is the only one, as far as I know, who thought, you know, why do all my clubs
01:07:43
have to be different lengths? I'm gonna have the same grip and the same length
01:07:48
on every single one of my irons, which doesn't sound that weird, but when you
01:07:52
put the longest and shortest irons next to each other, you'll realize that that's really unusual. His shortest
01:07:58
irons are the same length as his longest irons, so that he can have the same swing with all of his irons.
01:08:02
>> Why are they different lengths in the first place? >> They're all different lengths in the
01:08:05
first place because to hit it further, you want a longer lever. So, less loft and longer lever, it all just kind of
01:08:10
smoothly graduates you to the longest club in the bag. but he's decided to just have the same exact length for all
01:08:16
of his irons, which is highly unusual. And he's the only one who would do this
01:08:19
kind of thing because he's kind of the mad scientist of the golf world of being
01:08:23
willing to try and tinker with new equipment. So, he's been one of the best golfers in the world, debatably, but for
01:08:30
the last couple of years, the Masters, as you point out, very big tournament, maybe the biggest tournament if you're a
01:08:36
golfer. I'm understating this. It is the biggest tournament, obviously. Um he
01:08:40
goes to the Masters and apparently one of this new things he's trying is a 3D
01:08:46
printed 5iron specifically. Uh >> what makes it called why is it called five iron?
01:08:52
>> So a 9 iron, an 8 iron, a 7 iron, six iron, 5 iron are all next to each other
01:08:56
in the bag. The five iron is a very specific club that typically goes the same distance every single time. It's
01:09:02
slightly shorter than the 4 iron, slightly longer than the six iron. For some reason, just as 5 iron is the one
01:09:07
that 3D printed. Hm. >> Um, can do you know the specifics of like how >> I don't I would imagine it's a lot more
01:09:15
complicated than the 3D printers were picturing which are like plastic and and obviously not this is definitely still
01:09:21
metal. The thing also about making clubs for a tournament like this is every tournament every club has to be uh
01:09:28
legally allowed and tested. So it has to pass USJ regulations and so it has to meet a certain set of requirements for
01:09:34
that. It has to have grooves has to all this stuff. uh assuming well he played with it so he got this 3D printed club
01:09:40
approved to be just special enough for this. The other thing about Bryson is he is uh he has a YouTube channel. He has
01:09:47
big social media presence and I love him but he is very easy to make fun of because he's always messing with his
01:09:53
equipment and have like little tweaks with his driver and little tweaks with these clubs that have never been used
01:09:57
before. >> Uh he goes out to the Masters, he has a 3D printed club. He does not have a good
01:10:01
time. He plays two not that great rounds and uh doesn't make the cut. So, of
01:10:07
course, they ask him about this club and uh you know, when he's in a good mood,
01:10:12
he's willing to break down all of the fun interesting things about his club.
01:10:15
So, when he just missed the cut at the biggest tournament of the year with Masters, he's just like, "Ah, yeah, it
01:10:19
didn't didn't work. It wasn't that good." Uh that's really actually the
01:10:24
tech angle of this which is he literally tried to 3D print one of his clubs and make a specialized club just for this
01:10:31
one tournament. Um what I think is even more interesting is the Masters itself is the least tech of any golf tournament
01:10:39
in the world and I wanted to conveniently use this to pivot to that. >> Okay.
01:10:43
>> Okay. which is uh if you actually go to the Masters, it is the one sporting
01:10:47
event on Earth, as far as I know, where smartphones are banned from the entire grounds the entire time.
01:10:54
>> Isn't that the same with um uh chess? Is that a sport? >> Well, okay. That was the thing that
01:11:00
happened like a week or two ago. I don't think they're allowed on stage with the
01:11:04
competitors. You're saying the entire event, >> all the audience, the patrons, all of
01:11:09
the players, everyone there, nobody's taking photos with their phones because
01:11:13
they're they're banned on. And so when you see photos of the masters, it is a
01:11:19
golfer hitting a shot and everyone instead of holding their phones is just watching.
01:11:23
>> Wow. >> And it is just such a blast from the past and a really refreshing weird like
01:11:29
little piece of history. every time they play the Masters. >> I gave it a week until they're all
01:11:34
wearing meta glasses. >> So, that was one of the things that's actually come up is people are going to
01:11:38
the Masters wearing those smart glasses and everyone's going, "Hey, we got to
01:11:42
protect Augusta and ban those glasses, too." Like, we really just need it to be
01:11:46
as pure as possible. Um, so that did come up quite a bit, but I think they will probably end up banning those
01:11:51
glasses, too. Uh, it is a little bit scary slash possibly cultish the way they protect that course because if you
01:11:59
are a YouTuber for example, YouTube golf's gotten really big in the last couple years. Uh, you play all the
01:12:04
biggest courses in the world, but if you go to play Augusta, no cameras allowed and you sign an NDA and you can't talk
01:12:10
about it. >> What? >> And it's like >> you can't talk about the course.
01:12:14
>> Yeah. You can't talk about the time that you played the course. And so there's no
01:12:17
video evidence of it and there's you sign these NDA. this like this really weird thing where you see it on TV
01:12:23
>> people there or something. >> You see it on TV >> like to me
01:12:25
>> every year on TV this course looks absolutely perfect. The grass is the
01:12:30
exact same shade of green as all the chairs that are on the course because they've matched those things. Like all
01:12:35
of the the scoreboards are in the exact same places every single year. It's this
01:12:40
almost mythical course where if you ever do get the chance to go there, you don't
01:12:45
have a camera with you. You don't have your phone. You just kind of have to take it in and experience it and go home
01:12:51
and that >> like the stone ages. >> Yeah. And that's that's what you leave
01:12:54
with. >> What is the benefit of that? Is it like to prevent cheating or something or they
01:12:59
just want to keep this like aura? >> Definitely creates >> like just protects the integrity of the
01:13:05
like historical nature of this. It's it's just the only original golf event
01:13:11
left like that. >> Isn't there like extremely minimal ads? Like are there like six sponsors for the
01:13:16
whole thing? And yes, so like the whole thing is just OG OG. >> And the thing you brought up about the
01:13:22
food, like the food is still the same prices that it was 50 years ago. It's still a dollar for a hot dog for an egg
01:13:28
salad sandwich or something like that. >> Hilarious because people will go
01:13:30
straight to the merch shop and spend $1,000 on shirts and hats and stuff because that's super limited. But a $2
01:13:36
hot dog. So it's it is it is very much a blast for the past and I appreciate that
01:13:40
about it. Even though I'm a tech person, I I do want to go to the Masters and
01:13:44
just experience that. >> Where is it? It's in Georgia. >> Georgia.
01:13:47
>> Yeah. >> If anyone from there is listening, your first video was about golf.
01:13:51
>> My first ever video was about golf. Fun fact, I did get invited to go to this
01:13:55
masters and I didn't because I wanted to be here on the pod with you guys. >> That's not the reason.
01:14:02
>> Wrong choice. >> I couldn't make it, but I really I hope I get invited next time cuz it it looks
01:14:09
sick. >> Can I go one more step off the rails into the most niche question possible?
01:14:14
>> Yes. I probably could ask you this off the podcast, but since we're talking
01:14:16
about golf anyways, I'm currently in a disc golf fantasy league, and we had a
01:14:21
huge argument over the weekend over how to properly score things. >> So, if you miss a cut by a lot, you're
01:14:32
going to have a worse day four. If you pick someone who barely misses the cut, then you only get penalized a little
01:14:37
bit. >> That would that would like scale, I think, properly. We can talk more about
01:14:40
this later because I don't want to totally but Bo, you're out there listening. Text text Marquez and I
01:14:46
>> I think it's so cute. You think that's making it onto the >> Anyway, the Masters comments. I hope I
01:14:52
get to go someday. Uh Bryson is maybe the most unrelatable but also relatable golfer because I'm a tech person. Uh and
01:15:00
he's also a YouTuber so it's kind of a small world. >> Uh he is relatable because when I do bad
01:15:05
at things I don't want to talk to anyone about it. >> That's facts. Yeah. Totally reasonable.
01:15:09
We all know that person who's like, you know, participates in a thing but is
01:15:13
actually way more interested in doing some weird technical tweaky thing. But I say when I say we all know that person,
01:15:18
I'm >> We all know Ellis. >> We all know. >> Yeah. Anyway, I think it's time for that
01:15:26
last thing we do on every podcast. >> Go to the Masters. I wish. >> This is actually all recorded at the
01:15:33
Masters, so it has to be deleted and we signed NBA. >> That would be wild. Would we be allowed
01:15:38
to do a pod from the masters with no cameras? Like just audio equipment? >> I don't even
01:15:43
>> Would they allow that? >> Picture like like this table on the green
01:15:48
>> like like 6 feet from the hole and they just have to golf around us while we're
01:15:52
talking. >> That would be a live golf event. >> Um Oh my gosh, guys. GoPro between 2016
01:15:59
and 2018 made a thing that was not a little tiny camera. I mean, yeah, it was not a little It was not a hero and it
01:16:06
was not a mission. I'm so excited for that little thing. Um, what was it? >> I feel like I should know this. What did
01:16:13
they make? >> What did they make? >> I think I have a solid educated guess.
01:16:20
>> Nice. >> Not a liquid educated guess, >> bro. >> No, this can't this can't come out of my
01:16:26
fingers. >> Depending on what's in this podcast, that's going to be really confusing. is
01:16:31
I mean we did record that conversation. Andrew's referencing a conversation we
01:16:34
had before the podcast where we were discussing what five liquids we would have dispensed from each of our fingers.
01:16:39
Uh which you will never hear. >> Yes. >> I have a feeling it's going to make
01:16:43
somebody mad. >> This is probably Ellis or Adam. >> All right. Who wants who wants to go
01:16:51
first? >> I'm so mad at Marquez already. >> I picked one that's probably not the
01:16:55
answer you want, but maybe also technically correct. Mhm. >> They made an underwater housing for the
01:17:01
GoPro. >> Not what I was looking. >> The original GoPros needed waterproof
01:17:04
housing. Correct. >> Exactly. They sure did. >> This was not the answer.
01:17:07
>> So, that's just part of the action camera, isn't it? >> Probably a product that GoPro made
01:17:11
that's not the camera, but it is. >> Am I Am I that pedantic with these
01:17:16
questions? Have I ever Let's see what the other kick you out of a >> Yes.
01:17:20
>> Really? >> I might be the most correct. Let's see what they say.
01:17:22
>> My theory was GoPro makes a bunch of stuff for people who do action sports
01:17:26
that generally wear a helmet. So maybe they made some sort of headphones that work well with helmets.
01:17:30
>> That's really interesting. But I don't think they ever made headphones.
01:17:34
>> Uh mine is obviously not true >> because I covered phones for like 15
01:17:39
years and I don't remember this, but I put phones. >> You don't remember the GoPro phone?
01:17:44
>> I don't know. They might have done some weird collab with some I don't know my
01:17:49
two or some weirder phones. >> I was referencing the GoPro Karma >> which was a video. We did do a video on
01:17:55
that. I knew it. >> We did. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Drone. >> Yeah.
01:18:03
>> Okay. >> Oh, come on, guys. You can't be mad that I'm not giving
01:18:06
>> a drone is a camera, though. >> That's why I was like when I was like,
01:18:08
it wasn't a little tiny camera. Then I was like, but it >> kind of is a little tiny camera.
01:18:13
>> Gotcha. >> Quick update on the score. Uh Marquez with 21 after that incorrect answer.
01:18:19
Andrew with 22 after getting that one wrong. And David with 25 after not getting the correct answer. Thanks.
01:18:26
>> Okay, Mr. >> Next question. 32 degrees C is what in Fahrenheit? I'm accepting the answer to
01:18:36
the nearest tenth of a decimal point without going over. >> Can we just do delta?
01:18:41
>> Nope. >> It's so easy. Oh, this is so easy. >> I never said it was.
01:18:47
>> No, both of them were just backwards. >> I was wrong. >> That was my original question. Then I
01:18:52
>> Can you say one more time? Now I'm confused. 32 degrees C is what in
01:18:56
Fahrenheit? >> Okay. Do you remember the formula? >> Oh, wait. Uh, I don't remember the
01:18:59
formula. I remember part of the formula. >> Oh, I wish. >> Flip them and read. What do you got?
01:19:04
>> What? Oh, that's a Is there a decimal in your number? >> Yes.
01:19:07
>> Sorry, that's a decimal. >> That's Kelvin. >> Okay. Uh, Mark has you first.
01:19:14
>> I said 98.6. >> Oh, I was going to say that's a really good guess cuz we were talking about
01:19:19
body temperature. >> That is a really good guess. >> I wrote 101.5. That's like a radio station.
01:19:24
>> It is a really bad one in New Jersey. >> They're all bad >> losers. Whoa, whoa, whoa. New Jersey is
01:19:30
home to one of the nation's greatest radio stations. I'm talking about WFU,
01:19:34
okay? Or WFMU. That's it. WFMU. >> Don't talk smack about New Jersey radio.
01:19:39
If you're >> WH >> WFMU, >> never mind. >> It's okay. I like 96.9 The Eagle out of
01:19:45
Sacramento, California. Classic rock. >> All right, David, what'd you put?
01:19:48
>> I put 74 degrees. >> Wrong. But you get the points because you didn't go over.
01:19:53
>> Is it just under Marquez? So I wrote in the bottom how previously we talked
01:19:57
about how >> like 94 >> the 82° F felt like 28° C. So I was trying to go with an approximation with
01:20:04
that. >> Well, that was completely wrong. >> Well, I'm assuming it was still basing
01:20:09
it off of the 82. Maybe not exactly, but slightly different temperature >> because of the wind factor.
01:20:14
>> Marquez had all the right digits just in the wrong >> order. >> Order. It was 89.6.
01:20:20
Oh, >> damn. I went high. >> I just thought it strikes again. >> The Okay. Isn't the calculation like
01:20:27
times 5 9th + 12 or something? >> Degrees in Fahrenheit - 32 * 5 9th gives
01:20:35
you Celsius. Got it? >> So, you have to do that backwards to get >> So, times 95sUS 32
01:20:43
>> just for that. I'm never using WhatsApp. >> Wait, what? Why we should just Google it
01:20:50
anyway? >> Why? Uh yeah, >> cuz Celsius people don't >> Celsius people
01:20:55
>> people use it. >> Oh yeah, >> you know everyone else. >> Thanks for
01:21:01
>> referring to non-Americans as people and WhatsApp. It's >> WhatsApp users are tell me I'm wrong.
01:21:07
>> You know, you've never been more right. >> Thank you for watching and listening to
01:21:12
this episode of uh the golf podcast. Um >> ball golf podcast. >> The ball golf podcast. the original
01:21:18
golf, obviously. Um, yeah, we'll be back for more in April. Still, >> April fools.
01:21:27
>> See you. See you next time. It's going. Bye. >> Wait for you. Do it.
01:21:33
>> No. >> Here, I'll do it like the Fox Media Podcast Network. And our
01:21:44
intro intro music is made by Fade Sil. Go. >> If you could have five liquids come out
01:21:59
of each of your fingers, >> I had I had this conversation. Uh, >> does it have to be your dominant hand?
01:22:04
>> No. Non-dominant hand, which five would you pick? >> Water. >> Coke. Zero. Uh, a lot.
01:22:10
>> You can get water anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. But any anytime water run just
01:22:16
>> where's the water coming from? >> Yeah.