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Uh, can I do a quick double double check sound check type beat? Nintendo Switch 2
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as well. Nintendo Switch 2 OLED. Nintendo Switch 2 OLED Pro XL. All right, I'm going to I'm going to say
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that's good. Uh, Andrew, you one more time. Nintendo Switch 2 Light. Nintendo Switch
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2A. Nintendo Switch 2 Pro. Nintendo Switch 2 3. Okay. Can you
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pretend I said something really funny, please? No. I've never imagined that in my life.
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[Music] Yo, what is up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I am the Nintendo Switch 2. Finally. Only video
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viewers will appreciate what just happened. Audio listeners think we are just exhausting this joke, but I I swear
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David's holding a Switch 2. I am in my hands. His name's actually David, but there's a Switch too right there. Uh
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yeah. Wow. In today's episode, we got some uh predictions for WWDC cuz that's next week. So, we can check about chat
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about that a little bit. But also, Switch 2 in the hand, first/ second impressions, looking at it again
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alongside my Switch one and your Switch OLED. And uh also, we're going to have a
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fun little game activity where we're going to go through our smartphone chronology, every smartphone we've
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owned. It's going to be different slash difficult for some of us, but you'll see you'll see what we mean. But first, the
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great distraction of 2026, which is that to distract the
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world from its perhaps slightly lackluster WWDC announcements, Apple is
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going to rename all of their software operating systems to 26 to match next year's year,
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2026. So, where we would ordinarily have gotten I actually wrote I took a screenshot of this to make sure I could
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remember where we ordinarily would have gotten iOS 19, iPad OS 19, TV OS 19, Mac
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OS 16, watch OS 12 and Vision OS 3 two I thought instead. No, three. Instead, we
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will get iOS 26, iPad OS 26, TV OS 26, Mac OS 26, Watch OS 26, and Vision OS
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26. Thank you, Mark German, for that write up. Can I give you a hot take? Yeah. I'm like all for this in general,
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but also I never really understood the car thing. Like I know that it is Oh,
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you know, car model years are always just the name of But do cars always come out at the end of the year? Yeah. Kind
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of. So to go on that, it's all matching the year except that this comes out in 2025, but it's cuz it's like the end of
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2025. So I guess the majority is the default. It's not really the end of
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2025. It sounds think about this. It's software. You want to sound futuristic. Imagine using 2025 software in January
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2026. It already feels out of date, right? So, I might as well just name it 2026 so that all of next year it feels
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right. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I get software. Uh yeah, I think this is fine. It's going to make it easier to
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remember. When I make my video, I won't accidentally say watch OS 9 or 10
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instead of the wrong number. It's just going to be easy. Everything's 26. Cool. This is what Samsung did with their phones not too long ago. I think
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starting in 2020, we got the Galaxy S20. just to match the year. Cool. Well, I'm at least still glad that they're putting
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the place names on the Mac OS versions at the end. So, it should be Mac OS 26
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Tahoe. Yeah. Is it Lake Tahoe? My hometown. Um Oh, cool. Yeah, it's cool.
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Wow. Yeah. Didn't they have like a picture of some place you recognize or something? The rattlesnake pen. My It's
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a picture of Chuck Joerger, please. That's a deep cut, Ellis. But no, I think what we're actually
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expecting to see, the main maybe most exciting thing if we don't get many in the way of of AI updates is this new
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visual refresh of iOS which has we're expecting glass. We're expecting vision
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OS like uh crystalallike foggy glass
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looking type UI across the board realistic. I think it qualifies as skumorphic because it's material design
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if you will. If you will, it's material. Uh but name. Yeah, things will feel transparent and it will change the looks
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and shapes and aesthetics of of the entire OS. Yeah, I think it'll be fun.
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Are they going to do this with watch OS too or is it just a I imagine it should be everything. Oh, everything. Mac OS,
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watch OS, TV OS, vision, everything is going to be classic. Yeah, that's cool. I'm like I'm very curious in how this
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ends up feeling, but any big difference is kind of nice because the last big update on the iPhone at least was iOS 7.
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So, it's kind of cool seeing, you know, a a big visual refresh. Tech just goes
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in circles, though, doesn't it? Remember Windows 7? Oh, yeah. The whole thing was arrow. Uhhuh. Which is just
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I feel like that's not Also, if you watch any of Microsoft's ads, they all
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have like that arrow glassy design. A glass. Yeah. So, you know, I like that
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they're putting them all more similar together, like the names. Their whole thing is that they're trying to make this easier to switch between
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everything, which I think Mac for so long has been the iPhone or the Mac is the easier thing to use for like non-
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tech people. But at the same time, I'm so interested to see what all of our
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like family thinks about this big update cuz I still know like change is very
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scary to people who aren't in our world. I know people who still haven't switched to iOS 18 because the gallery change.
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Yeah. Oh, and like that one's totally fair, though. Like the new photos app is dramatically worse. It is. But like that
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also means none of them have RCS, which means we did a bad job converting them. But there is someone in our office who
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hasn't switched because of the gallery. I shamed him the other day. Oh, you can you can name them. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim.
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RCS. Man, you're missing out. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. I messaged him on Telegram, so it's fine. Yeah, that's
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Yeah, but like Yeah, I'm This is supposed to be easier. Yeah, I think a lot of people are going
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to be scared of it outside of our worlds. We'll we'll see because I mean there's a lot of like weird natural
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elements and um Sebastian Dwith who makes and Lux and all this stuff, he did
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a really good write up about what he imagines that it will probably end up looking like and he was mentioning in this write up that a lot of the stuff
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that it's probably going to look similar to Apple's been kind of quietly adding to the iPhone for the last few years. If
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you'll remember, the shortcuts section of the iPhone on the shortcut button. Oh, yeah. Looks nothing like the rest of
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the US. I talk about that a lot. And it's weird because a lot of other phones have copied that since then. Like the
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action button looks like they just like bolted on this weird UI that doesn't match the rest of the phone. Yes. And
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then look at OnePlus's like new thing. It looks exactly the same. It just looks totally different from the rest of the
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phone. But you're saying this is going to become like I think that that will sort of set the standard for what a lot
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of the rest of UI will look like. Uh, you've also got things like the dynamic island and how it's sort of like fluid
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but also kind of like skumorphic in a way, very wavy. Uh, it's a very good
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blog. You should go read it and uh, we'll see how close it is to the actual announcement. Yeah, he does some like mockups and they Yeah, they look really
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nice. I mean, I think it it would be a good UI update. They look so good that I saw people that were reporting on them
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as leaks and everyone was like, "These are not leaks." Oh my gosh. It was a write up. This is one of those things
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though. Are people going to make these really beautiful like mock-ups and then we're going to see the real thing and be like, I wish it was the mockup. It'll be
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fun to compare this to Material 3 expressive. Horrible name, but uh you
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know, they're very different directions. So, it's kind of nice to have two very distinct styles instead of
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just having all technology that just converges. True. Cuz there was a while there where everything was like flat
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white, lots of blank spaces, super minimal. Like you could not tell the difference between the setting screen of
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the Pixel and the iPhone for quite a while. They look the same. Yeah. So, I like I like that they're diverging a
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little bit. I do think Material 3 Expressive, despite its horrible name, is actually really nice. Yeah, for sure.
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Just been using it on my Pixel 9. So, yeah, we'll see. Okay. Okay. Well, some other some other smaller WWDC rumors
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slashpredictions. Wrote some down. You mentioned AI already. Yeah. Mark German does not seem
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to think we're going to get a lot of AI from uh this one. He says, first of all, he says he does he just doesn't think
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new series ready yet. And he claimed he doesn't think AI will be the headliner. Yeah. Despite Apple needing a comeback.
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Very stark contrast to Google IO. Literally two weeks ago, it was like
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this will be an hour and a half straight of AI advancements. Yeah. Go. Which is why they did the Android show
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separately. Yeah. Exactly. And now Google Apple's going to get on stage and go m New designs, new names. Yeah, don't
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worry about the fees. It's like what WWC used to be before they got forced to do
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a bunch of AI stuff by the investors and now they're like, "We're not ready, so we're just going to go back to what we know." But there have been a few little
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sprinkles of AI that a lot of rumors have been speculating on. Apparently the shortcuts app is set to get Apple
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intelligence which allows you to create shortcuts with natural language which I think is very cool because even though
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the shortcut the shortcuts app is not that used by normal people because it has a very if this then that kind of
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structure which for people that haven't taken programming might be a little bit confusing to use. If you could just say
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hey when I get home I want you to blah blah blah. I want you to open my blinds and turn on my lights and it creates a
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shortcut that does that. I think that could be very powerful. Is this vibe coding? This is vibe coding for if this
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that for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. For everybody. It's essentially you just tell your phone what you want it to do and it figures out what you said and and
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makes the Siri shortcut command to do it. Yeah. I think that's smart. Yeah. Yeah. They also had announced last year
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that Gemini was going to be an option instead of chatg to use on iPhone when it needed to check stuff. I would do
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that. And I think that this year might be the year where they actually introduce it. I would love that. Yeah. I
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use Gemini all the time. Yeah. Couple other things. Charging estimates on the lock screen. Revolution. That was
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something I read and as a non iPhone user, I was like, this is the typical
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like, wait, it doesn't have that? I think everyone I've tested for the last decade other than the iPhone has had this. As soon as you plug it in, it's
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like, yeah, it'll be 4 hours, 34 minutes before your phone's full. It's like, yeah. And you put it on a slow charger, it tells you a longer time. You put on a
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fast charger, you're like, oh, this is better. It'll take less time. They're not branding that under Apple intelligence, are they? I think they might. I think they might. I hope so.
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because that was one of the one of the things I read was they're supposed to be doing uh battery optimizations using
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Apple intelligence. So this could easily be looped in under this where it's like oh we can tell you how long your phone's going to take to charge. What if they
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are just like we are expanding Apple intelligence and they just announce a bunch of stuff that's not using AI at
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all and then they're like forget all the things that we said we were going to announce. So they can up their we shipped it percentage. Yeah, exactly.
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What do we think? How little do they mention Siri in WWDC since it's not new
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Siri we were supposed to have. I mean unless it is ready. It could be ready. That would be the surprise of dubdub.
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They would have to say it is shipping in the developer beta today if they're going to mention it at all. Do you guys
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want to bet on an overunder how many times they say Siri? Points dubdub with no Siri without saying they have to say
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it. I'm taking the overup as one but I think it's going to be a few. They have to say Siri shortcuts, right? The shortcuts is a Siri Shortcuts. Oh, is it
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called Siri Shortcuts? I think so. It's just a shortcuts app, but I think they're called Siri Shortcuts. That's dumb. So, maybe they'll say Siri like
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four times or something. Cuz they don't The thing that we're hoping happened is
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they learned their lesson a little bit and they won't go announcing a bunch of features that aren't ready and might not
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ship for months. Yeah. But that also means that there's probably way less for
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them to talk about because a lot of the stuff they're working on is not ready. and won't be for months.
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So, if they're gonna talk about Siri, which last time they said they're having this huge update for Yeah. It better be
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ready. Yeah. I feel like it is funny. Apple, I think, needs to they worry so much more about when they ship
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something, it working flawlessly, continuously like most of the time because all of these other AI companies,
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you know, they'll show a demo and it'll work in the demo or it doesn't work in the demo like Google's done and then
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they actually ship it and it basically doesn't work and it's like unusable. Yeah. But Apple, I don't think that they
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want to do that because they're just afraid of all the bad press they're going to get. Yeah. And on top of it, it
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sounds like not only was it not perfect, it sounds like it wasn't even remotely close. It was so messed up that they
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couldn't even fix it. Yeah. So, they're in a rough spot with I feel like there was some engineer at Apple that was just so terrified to like tell their manager
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that they weren't done with their project yet. And they're just like, it's too late at this point. Yeah. Your things in the presentation. It's good to
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go, right? Yeah. It's ready. And then he takes a flight somewhere. Never comes
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back. Um Yeah. So, my favorite rumor was Mark German said they might be bringing
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live translation to AirPods, which I think Ellis has somehow
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created 2025 as the year of live translation again through like finally
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snapping at welcome Silicon Valley investors. I did this for you. Yeah. So,
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that sounds like you would be wearing AirPods. At least one person's wearing AirPods and you speak your language,
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they can't understand you. But if they speak, if I'm wearing them, you speak to me in Spanish, it sends that to my
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iPhone, my iPhone translates it and then plays it out of the iPhone, I think is what Mark said, which by the way, if
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that's the case, why don't you just do it from the phone? I've always done this where you you have Google Translate, you
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can just speak into it in your language, it comes out in the other language, and it goes back and forth. What's the big deal with being on the headphones?
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Totally true. Just think about think about you saw her, right? No. Think about the I I said this last
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episode. I said this last episode. You seen her, Mark? Yes. But the the the platonic ideal of AI live translation is
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humans just walk around speaking their language and everyone understands them and you understand everyone. So I don't
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want to have to have a device out. I don't want to have to whatever. I just got this little ear pod in my ear and boom, I have the superpower. But you do
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cuz it plays it. It has to play out the iPhone. Well, if I want to talk back to
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Well, I guess if Yeah, if you want to talk. Yeah. So, you either are both wearing AirPods, which in which case
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Apple's perfect world, the Apple perfect world magic moment. Matter of fact, they might have a commercial or some ad where
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both people are wearing AirPods doing live translation to each other, speaking totally different languages, and understanding each other cuz that's what
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that's the visual they want. I hate this. Which is like a magic I don't know what language you're speaking, but I
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understand you, the human. Yeah. They want that moment. It's just so rare that you're going to be hearing another language where you don't need to
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communicate back. Yeah, exactly. Which is funny and maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but this is also this is a rumor,
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so I don't even know. But like you said, if the phone is out, you just speak into the phone and turn it and it speaks back. In this
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scenario, you speak back to me in another language into my phone and then I listen to it on a delay, but you just
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watch me sit there like I don't hear if it's talking or know what it's done cuz I don't get the audio cue that he's
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actually listening to it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm just listening to Creed in my headphones while you're
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talking to my phone. Maybe one person has the AirPods with the live translation and the other person is
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like, let's say I'm a So here's the situation. This is going to work, right? I'm a tourist. I go to a country that
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people speak a different language. I have the AirPods in. So, I'm glad I have my AirPods because when I walk up to someone and go, "Hey, where is this
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street?" They have no idea what I said, right? Never mind. That's okay. They
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have something to tell me, but I don't I don't have anything to say to them. That's when it works. So, they walk up
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to me and say something, and I go, "I understand." And then I walk away. That's it. That's what you get. Cuz I can't communicate backwards.
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Please ask me a question about my city. The most magical technology can be amazing moment I ever had was when I was
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in like the remote mountains of Japan and the taxi driver had no idea where to take me and I was able to just speak
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into my phone and it it came out in Japanese and he spoke back in and it came out in English. That helped him understand that we were communication.
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Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Now you can lean over and put your AirPods in his ear. Oh, you're so amazing. No, the
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better scenario. The better scenario is you take one of your waxy ear w earbuds out of your ear and you stick it in the
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stranger's ear. Oh no. Oh no. That cannot be the ad. I just
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that can't be. I really wonder how they cuz the original Pixel Buds had this. The ones with the wire. Yes. Tried to
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have this. Well, yeah, but it was practically the same thing, right? Yeah. Unless Apple is actually able to do
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something special that we're some scenario that we're not thinking of. I can't wait to see this. I feel like we're either missing something or this
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is gonna be so funny. Yeah, I think the ad has to be I have my AirPods in and also I have my phone out to read
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something in a different language. So I go to a place I don't you nobody speaks the same language as me. I say it to my
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phone, they hear something, they reply back and I just hear it on my earbuds and then that's how we're talking. But
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that sucks because it's not as good because they're not really fully seeing that I'm hearing what they're saying.
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Right. If I just want to say if we get to Dubdub and we see this commercial and at the end little text at the bottom of
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the screen says coming 2026, I am gonna laugh so hard. Well, according to the OS
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number, it's already 2026. Coming in iOS 2026. How about that? Uh oh, there you
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go. Got them. Got you. Okay. Uh some other existing app features that may be
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updated according to Mac rumors. Uh messages may get automatic translations and support for calls, which I don't
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really know what support for calls means. It's like VIP, but you can already do that via FaceTime. So, I'm
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not really sure. FaceTime audio. I don't know. Maybe they'll change FaceTime audio to not be called FaceTime audio
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cuz that already is a horrible name. Um, music may get full screen animated lock
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screen art. Cool. That's like a Androidy thing. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Um,
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Apple Notes may get markdown support, which is a lot of years in the
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running here. Let's go. Uh, also a very nice one, you may only need to log into
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a captive Wi-Fi portal once and all of your devices will already be logged in. So, you know how when you like go on
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your computer and you're at a hotel Wi-Fi and it's like enter your room key number and all that and you have to do it on every single device you have, you
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have to do on your phone and your laptop. Apparently, you only have to do it on one device. Would this work on airplanes where they want you to only be
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online with one device at a time? doubt it cuz that you wouldn't even get I
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don't know if it's an airplane. It's account based on the airplane though and it knows how many devices you're on. Oh,
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I just figured it was all the ports. It might be. It might. I don't know. It's a good question. Uh, also there is
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apparently going to be a lot of big Apple Home updates. So, there is this
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rumor that there may they may actually finally announce the HomePod, which is
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sort of just I don't know if that's actually going to be the name with the screen, but it's Yeah, it's basically the the HomePod with a screen, which is
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their response to the NestHub Mini that launched a bazillion years ago, but twice the price, maybe. Yeah, but at
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least twice the price. I mean, but this potentially could be the robotic one
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that they were talking about because remember they were working on one with a robotic arm that would like turn and move with you. Yeah. Which would be
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quite cool. I just don't see them ever doing that. It It does seem not very Appleike to me. It's like the least
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Appleike sounding product I've ever heard. They would use software. They'd be like, "Our continuity camera is 2 mm
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has a 2 millimeter focal length and it just zooms in on anywhere in your home." Yeah. Can I tell a funny HomePad story
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that I realized I've never told on the podcast before? Oh, wow. Sure. I um So, I have this family friend who is a home
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automation consultant professionally. Like, if you are really rich and have a giant home and want it automated
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throughout the entire thing, you call him and he like, "We'll make sure it's set up properly." That's a great job. And I was in his really beautiful home
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one time and there was this amazing like he obviously had set it up for himself
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too and he had this beautiful screen in the wall and he like it was this software that I think he had wrote
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himself to like control all of his own things. And what was so beautiful was that the screen was completely
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bezelless. It was just like wall to to pixel and it had the most perfect sort
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of like bulge like it was sort of like rounded and and just barely protruding out of the wall. in this like really
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beautiful way. And I was like, "Where did you find this beautiful display?" It's a iPad. He was like, "Oh, bro, that's a
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second generation iPad and the battery is just swelling really bad." Oh, beautiful bulge. Oh, he's like, "I I
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just mount it in the wall really well." Dang. Oh, yeah. Putting iPads in walls. Putting a bulging battery in your wall
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is Yeah, that's not very smart. Don't do that at home. I mean, I'm sure he had it
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figured out, you know, he's he's a really smart guy, but yeah, that was a funny Anyway. Yeah. Yeah, 9 to5 Mac was like this may happen and the only reason
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it may happen is that they are planning a pretty big refresh of the home system and so they it would be nice to have
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hardware that actually like runs Apple Home because they don't really have dedicated Apple Home hardware right now.
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I think Mark German was pretty strong on saying he didn't think any hardware was going to be here, but I don't even use
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any Apple Home stuff, but like an iMac G4 as the HomePad with that like rotating arm would be the sickest thing
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ever. There are a lot. Remember we used to shoot in breathers or like random studios. Like there's a lot of iPads on
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walls and I feel like if they just wanted to make a dedicated product that was super premium and designed for that
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environment, they could do something cool easily. Easily. Yeah. I mean, everybody has been making third party
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software to basically control your Apple Home anyway. So, it would be smart of them to sherlock everybody else like
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they always do. Home OS 26. Homeless. Also, they could just move forward a bunch of projects that are like kind of
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ready just because Apple Intelligence is still not ready. I was going to say that's what most of this feels like. This feels like everyone else who's got
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something going on, we're shipping it this week because the AI thing isn't here yet. Can we move that up by 6
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months, please? Yeah. So, yeah. Well, we'll see. This is going to be next week. So, if you're listening to this on Friday, literally in a 3day span, we'll
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be listening to them on stage on Monday, hearing what they have to say, which is crazy. It's happening quick. The last
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thing we uh talked about it last week, but just the dedicated Apple gaming app that replaces the game center. Games.
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Games. You got games on your phone? I got games on my phone. Elantro, not gambling. Certified. Speaking of games,
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we have certified by who? Certified by me. We have some gaming stuff to talk
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about. We hear that creek. Oh my gosh. We got some gaming stuff to talk about pretty soon. Does that creek? Not at
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all. See, this I mean that's that's 8 years old. We got a lot more to talk about there. Uh, so we're going to do
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that after the break. But first, trivia. [Music]
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Oh, it's quieter. That sounds very quiet. It looks like there was a delay, too, between hitting it and
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Wow, guys. Just tell me what else I did wrong. I think that your brand new kind
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of trash might be off key. The people watching the video podcast may have uh
00:23:29
with an eagle eye noticed that a few things are different on the producer table. We have switched off of the road
00:23:37
cer and we are now controlling the lights with a stream deck. So yes, you may see a few kinks that need to get
00:23:43
ironed out over the next few uh few days, but so far I'm pretty stoked. I can do this now. I could do it before,
00:23:50
but there was a delay. One quick question. Speaking of kinks that need to be ironed out, this is a question that I was asked in a group setting last
00:23:56
weekend, and I now need to ask all of you. Do you own an iron? Raise your hand if you do.
00:24:02
What? What? Wow, that felt like raise your hand if you use it regularly. Uh,
00:24:09
what do you consider regularly? Every week. You all irons. No, I don't use it every time I wear like a dress shirt.
00:24:15
Yeah, there are shirts I I won't wear without ironing. Okay, question. Do you own a shower?
00:24:20
I know where you're getting, but that's a far less efficient way. My answer, by the way, was no. I don't use an iron
00:24:26
ever. I have a steamer. Anytime I need something I was going to iron, I have a steamer for that. Steamer for most stuff is easier, but there are a few things
00:24:32
you can't get done with a steamer. I probably don't own those things. Well, like the collar on a collared shirt.
00:24:38
Steamer is kind of tough to like get that or or pleated pants are often better. Like that and it'll be fine.
00:24:43
Well, I just put it in the shower. Anyway, sorry to distract. Sorry to distract. That was just a random just wasted 50 gallons of water to steam his
00:24:50
shirt. Trivia. Yes, of course. Or I could make one AI query waste the same amount.
00:24:57
Yeah, exactly. Guys, it is obviously the day of Switch 2. That's right. Um, and I
00:25:03
wanted to ask a trivia question about my favorite thing Nintendo has ever made,
00:25:09
which is the Wii. I think the Wii is a genius idea. I think every part of every
00:25:15
piece of Mi software ever released has been perfect. Mi software. Mtopia.
00:25:20
Mtopia. All the all the Japanese ones. I can't remember the name of the OG Mi
00:25:25
Creator. the the the street pass. Was that street pass? I think I just think Miis are terrific. Um anyway, is like
00:25:34
what is a me? I'm talking about the Nintendo. It came out on the Wii character. It's a portentoe of Wii and
00:25:41
me. Okay. I Yeah, that's right. Play as the Mi Sword Fighter or the Mi Archer on
00:25:47
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. This is true. This is true. Everyone, but especially Marquez.
00:25:54
because you're not getting any of this. Starting in 2007, Nintendo would
00:26:00
occasionally release what they called special Miis. These were famous Japanese
00:26:06
entertainers and celebrities, as well as the occasional Nintendo executive, and these Miis were not editable. You would
00:26:12
get them on your console and they would just live on your console. Other than being uneditable, what
00:26:19
visually made a special Mi distinct from a normal Mi? They were ungovernable,
00:26:25
too. It's like when you hit the button on the Wii to make them all like stand in
00:26:31
formation, the one of them would just like roll through. Wow. I I know almost nothing about other
00:26:39
than if you like swung your arm back in bowling and looked back, they would all jump in. Yeah. Huh. Do you know about
00:26:46
the other wee bowling little Easter egg? So there was like a practice like I
00:26:51
loved wee bowling. It was like but yes there's like a practice mode where you would start with like a 10 pin thing and
00:26:57
move up to a 100 pin thing right on the 100 pin goound. Yeah. If you moved all
00:27:03
the way to the side through your ball and got the ball to ride on the rail cuz there were no gutters. There were rails.
00:27:10
If you got it to ride on the rail all the way to the end and like you'd hear a
00:27:15
muffled explosion sound and all 100 pins would knock down and I got that. I think
00:27:20
I did that cuz my friend my friend had Nintendo Wii and I didn't. So anytime I went over to his house it was like we
00:27:27
got to do the bowling thing, we got to do the golf thing. Yeah, I spent a lot of time in Wii Sports. Wii was amazing.
00:27:33
Good times generational. Well, we'll think about that. Answers will be at the end of the podcast like usual. We'll be
00:27:38
right back. [Music]
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00:29:05
right, welcome back. Uh, I'm holding a Switch, too. Ideally, you've uh already
00:29:11
seen our unboxing by the time you're watching this pod or listen to this pod. Is it ideally because you're not sure if
00:29:17
you've gotten the edit done yet, or ideally because maybe they haven't watched it and they're listening to this. A little bit of both. We're pretty
00:29:23
unsure about when that's I'm going to try. Uh, anyway, but yeah, we have it now. It's out the box. It's here in the
00:29:28
studio. We get to do whatever we want. It's not tethered to something and we can only play like one game on repeat. We can actually jump around the settings
00:29:34
and compare them to our other switches, which is I have my Switch One, which was
00:29:39
colored. I've had this forever. You've had a Switch OLED, and so you're curious if we'd notice more differences there.
00:29:45
Um, yeah, we can just jump right in. So, if you watch that impressions video, there are some things that we noted. My
00:29:51
main two things about the Switch 2, it's just bigger, and it's it's more
00:29:58
comfortable because it's bigger. The Joy-Cons are bigger, the buttons are bigger, the screen is bigger, the battery is also bigger, but probably
00:30:04
doesn't last much longer. But the whole thing is just bigger, which is nice. You have much bigger hands than me. Yeah. I
00:30:10
mean, I think people all generally like the bigger Joy-Cons and bigger buttons. Yeah. Is that when I when I hold that, I
00:30:16
feel like this is a better size to just hold. Like that feels very large when I just hold that. The Joy-Cons are great
00:30:23
are better when you're like using them sideways, but yeah, it is pretty big. Yeah. And then I guess my slightly more
00:30:29
nuanced take is like in this the same thing as the world of smartphones where
00:30:35
people uh in our world will have a lot more to say about the fidelity and the sharpness and the contrast ratio and the
00:30:42
pitch blacks of the OLED. I think a regular person just sees bigger,
00:30:47
brighter, higher refresh rate and that looks better. Yeah. And so if you are in the more nuanced crowd, I think the
00:30:55
switch to OLED that eventually comes out will speak to you more. Um, but for most people, I think just this being bigger
00:31:01
is it just feels like an upgrade to all the switches that came before it. Feels a lot like a Steam Deck to be honest.
00:31:07
It's that size. Yeah. Size-wise, I almost wonder if there were like Oh, well, we can make it bigger because look
00:31:12
at how well the Steam Deck did. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there were it was probably well into development by then, but Yeah, fair. And also just like how
00:31:20
do we make this console where we've kind of nailed the form factor of it already different than the Switch before? So
00:31:26
like bigger is the most obvious that we did this off the pod, but Marquez, can we compare the unlocking sounds? Oh
00:31:32
yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to do a magnet sound, but I just want to feel the magnet so bad. That's all I care about. So you unlock the Switch OLED?
00:31:38
Yeah, this is going to be Switch OLED, right?
00:31:44
It's pretty iconic. So good. Now here's the switch too.
00:31:52
No. What the heck is that? Reverb. It's so like staccato. No, it's goopy. It's
00:31:59
cleaner. It's like goopy and wet and resonant. It's like But it shouldn't be clean. It should be like Wait. On the
00:32:04
home screen, flipping between apps. What does that sound on yours?
00:32:10
Little high pitch. This is the switch too. What the heck is that? I think I like
00:32:16
that. That almost sounds more like the unlocking of that. Yeah. Let's click here.
00:32:25
Switch ASMR. The thing that really matters. Okay. The thing that really matters. Uh, remove
00:32:32
and reattach a Joy-Con. Whoa.
00:32:38
Was that from the speaker? Oh, I didn't realize that. That's pretty cool. Oh, cuz your screen is on probably. Okay,
00:32:44
hold on. Let me see. Yeah. Let me uh do the same thing on the Switch 2 now with a magnet. Yeah, it is.
00:32:49
[Music] That was kind of nice. I like the like
00:32:56
Sorry. Sorry. I I messed it up. That's so funny. I like the momentum that that
00:33:02
sound had. Do it. Can you do it one more time? Yeah. And there's a there's a little uh Just watch the display as
00:33:07
well. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's an animation. Yeah. Oh, it like And I bet And the right
00:33:15
side's orange. I'm assuming the left side's blue because of the JoyCons are orange or blue. That's kind of nice. And it kind of mirrors the the sounds the
00:33:22
sound mirrors the sound of taking it off because it's like push the button, pull it out, click, and it's like
00:33:30
it's nice. Yeah. I also think the despite that sounding really good, David, from the Yeah. OG switch. The
00:33:38
process of that is like the worst ever. I hate sliding it on.
00:33:44
Yeah, this has a little animation. I want to try this so bad. I just want to try the magnet. This is Andrew. This is your first time actually holding I
00:33:50
watched you unbox it, but I tried not to like really hold it. So, this is someone who's seen the videos, but is now
00:33:55
holding a Switch 2? Yeah. Yeah. So, there's definitely going to be a much much much much bigger difference between
00:34:01
Switch One and Switch 2. Yeah, there had been rumors that the Switch OLED was originally going to be like a Switch Pro
00:34:07
or Switch some sort of Switch Pro, but they like couldn't get a u Nvidia part
00:34:13
in time or something. So, they ended up just keeping the same internals but changing it slightly. That is funny branding because only like enthusiasts
00:34:20
are going to care deeply about OLED display. Funny enough, all three of these
00:34:27
switches have very different kickstands. So, the original Switch has a horrible kickstand, which is just like a tiny
00:34:33
little nub. It's bad. That comes out the back. Yeah. That breaks off really easily. I don't like it at all. Um, wow.
00:34:39
Yeah, it's horrible. They made the Switch OLEDs way better. It's a big piece of metal and it like swivels
00:34:45
really far back. Kind of like a Surface Pro and allows you to do it at like all different angles. With the Switch 2,
00:34:51
they sort of did a in between where they still have the the angled uh kickstand,
00:34:57
but it is now sort of like hollow. It's full width, but it's uh Here, I'll hold it up. Also, is that plastic or metal?
00:35:04
Metal. It is metal. Okay. This is also metal. This is obviously much like wider and thicker and fuller. So, I'm OLED.
00:35:12
So, I'm wondering if the OLED's more sturdy. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. The JoyCons are so good. Yeah. There's this
00:35:18
magnet aspect is just such and it's so interesting that it literally is just magnets and
00:35:23
then like one little physical lever that basically is physically pushing it away but it snaps in so nice. What do we call
00:35:29
this thing? The grip. Yeah, the like the grip to make two JoyCons into a singular controller. It sucked on the first one.
00:35:36
It was so bad. And this is so nice. And this mouse. Yeah, the mouse mode is
00:35:41
actually kind of nice. Does it give you hand pain? a lot of people are talking about. Uh I mean I haven't used it long
00:35:47
enough. It's pretty good though. Yeah, but like Yeah, I love these. These
00:35:53
magnets are the best part about the switch too. The switch. Remember when we got all excited cuz we were thinking that the button like reversed the
00:35:59
polarity? Yeah. It turned out though this is like a very elegant solution. Like it's just the perfect strength
00:36:05
magnet and just the exact far enough push off of the switch that it will separate. Yeah. which I'm sure took a
00:36:11
lot of development time, but ends up feeling really satisfying to attach and detach. Yeah. And then Yeah. I honestly
00:36:18
think that's the the two hugest things, no pun intended, about the Switch 2 upgrade are the way bigger display and
00:36:24
the Joy-Cons just being awesome. I will say these bezels are way bigger than I thought they would be on the left and
00:36:30
right side. Yeah, they're still pretty big. I don't mind as much. I kind of
00:36:36
feel like they're leaving room for Are the OLED bezels smaller? Yeah. Uh, yeah. It's got a bigger outer bezel, but a
00:36:43
smaller sub bezel by a lot. Yeah. I'm thinking the Switch 2 OLED is going to
00:36:49
be pretty sick. Yeah. And expensive. I like how this has gone from since we first talked about Switch 2, like they
00:36:54
will probably make a Switch OLED and then like throughout this day of having it, you're basically like when the Switch 2 OLED comes out7 each other. I
00:37:02
mean, the Switch 2 OLED is way contrastier, way better viewing angles. It looks Sorry. Yeah, Switch OLED. It
00:37:08
looks way better. Looks better fidelity wise. It's just smaller. Much better. Yeah, it does. So, I feel like there's
00:37:14
no doubt they got to do an OLED version of the Switch 2. But the other thing though is uh what was I about to say?
00:37:22
The Switch to OLED. Like I'm not going to cancel my pre-order. Oh, for the price. But yeah, the price uh $4.49 for
00:37:30
the Switch, which means an OLED version is going to be even more. That is gamers can't afford it. That's true. If you're
00:37:37
a gamer, you cannot afford this. I'm sorry. To be clear, I was talking about like a gaming chair or something. But
00:37:43
yeah, that's uh Yeah. And then you got to buy the you got to buy the micro SD Express cards, but look at these
00:37:49
speakers. They are very large. Speakers are big and nice and loud. And the second that's the first thing I noticed when I started playing with it is, oh,
00:37:54
these speakers are quite loud. Yeah. So, they announced a bunch of updates. Uh I think even today they announced
00:38:00
additional updates and they showed some reporters new games, the updated version of the new games. And apparently the
00:38:06
newer Pokemon games, Scarlet and Violet, run like exceptionally better on Switch 2. And apparently they don't lag like at
00:38:12
all. It's like a stable 60 the whole time. Nice. Which, you know, kind of probably should have been the norm, but
00:38:18
here we are. Yeah. There are a bunch of things, a bunch of games I want to run and test for a full review. The other
00:38:23
interesting headline that we saw, remember, um, there is a built-in screen protector on the Switch 2, right? And if
00:38:31
you look right on the very corner, you can actually kind of see it. It's not as bad as like I was having flashbacks to the original Galaxy Fold, which is like
00:38:38
it's it looks like someone installed one in the store after you bought it and it's like I should just peel this off.
00:38:44
Uh it's not that bad. So, it is a pre-installed screen protector and you're apparently not supposed to remove
00:38:49
it. So, I did I removed it. I'm just kidding. I did. Uh don't remove it. We
00:38:54
left it on. If you want to install screen protector over the top, you would literally install it over the top of the screen. I would never know there's a
00:39:00
screen protector on that if you didn't tell me. It is really close to the edge. The the article I read said that the
00:39:06
instruction manual says not to open it because it will prevent glass shattering in from going
00:39:15
all over the place which to me just feels like Cyber Truck. It's a laminate layer. It feels like Yeah. It's like a
00:39:20
windshield. But like also I mean that's nice that glass shards wouldn't go anywhere if I broke it. But like I'm
00:39:27
probably more upset that my screen is broken. Yeah. Than it's broken. It's not broken on the floor now. Yeah, that's a
00:39:34
pretty big bezel, though, is it not? It's a big bezel. Yeah, it's bigger than I thought it would be. It's a bigger
00:39:39
screen and a bigger body, and everything is bigger. The thickness, the Z-axis
00:39:44
thickness is the only thing that's roughly the same as the previous switches. Otherwise, you just feel like you're holding like a Switch that
00:39:50
someone just like stretched in every other dimension. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty excited to be able to
00:39:56
use these JoyCons and not have my hands cramp like crazy, especially because I'm now 30 and um have pain everywhere.
00:40:03
That's when it starts. Yeah. So, but these are made of what? Steel. The buttons. So, the the Yeah, see that the
00:40:10
buttons on the left and right in the inside of the JoyCons are steel because
00:40:16
the magnets inside the Switch are magnetizing to the steel. They're so much bigger. Like, look at this. So much
00:40:22
better than the old. I don't know if you can zoom in on this, Adam, but like here's switch OLED buttons and here's
00:40:27
switch two buttons. Look at the size difference. The old Joycon closer to you. Closer to me cuz it's in focus. The
00:40:34
old Joy-Con, the bumper you would put on with the wrist strap would give you a bigger button that would It was
00:40:40
literally just a piece of plastic that pushed down on the really small button. Yeah. These new bumpers now Yeah. are
00:40:46
just even out the I'm putting the wrong one on. just even out, you know, the top
00:40:52
part of it and gives you some feet for the mouse features, but you're still using the buttons because they're actually good buttons, the SR and SL.
00:41:00
Yeah, it has this nice matte finish, too, that's like a a sprayed matte. So,
00:41:05
I'm curious how long that's going to last. My color switch one, I also have matte paint on it. And uh let me just
00:41:13
say, it's a choice. Whenever I get something colored, I have to think about how it's going to wear, right? And if
00:41:20
you if I use my Switch a lot more, it would be more obvious, but there's like shiny spots. Same thing on a laptop with
00:41:25
like a matte keyboard. Like you get shiny spots. So, we'll see how this ages. It's obviously currently pristine
00:41:31
condition. Yeah, I'm not very careful with my Switch OLED. See, that's just me. I'm not very careful with my Switch OLED, and it's definitely got a lot of
00:41:37
scars and like scuffs all over it. So, yeah, we'll see how it goes. But, um, yeah, very exciting. I'm I'm pretty
00:41:44
excited to replay Breath of the Wild cuz I never actually finished it. I just got close to finishing it, but I didn't want to finish it because I didn't want to
00:41:50
have to start over. And then uh I did never I never played Tears of the Kingdom, so I want to play that as well.
00:41:56
But I am currently still stuck in a temple in Breath of the Wild. It like glitched in a weird way that like I
00:42:01
can't revert out or get out of it. I'm just like completely stuck. So I have to just start completely over. Well, maybe the Switch 2 update will fix that bug.
00:42:09
Maybe. Yeah, throw it on the Switch too. It'll like find you a way out or something. Sick update. The big questions I'm going to have are battery
00:42:15
life. Yes. How is battery life? That's going to be a big question. Uh, also I
00:42:21
would like to know how Mario Kart World is cuz I was told by many people that
00:42:27
this game I have a lot of friends who have played this already and they've said that this game is like much bigger
00:42:33
than just racing around in Mario Kart. It is like the open world aspect is actually there's something to it there.
00:42:38
Here's Did I heard this about the open world part that sounds like kind of a bummer, but you still have you still get
00:42:45
the same uh like slowness on non-tracks, which in free roam sounds like such a
00:42:51
pain in the neck. Like in your race when you go off the track on the grass, you go slower because you're racing. Take
00:42:56
that. But if you have I saw that you get the same slowness when you're like wandering around, which when you're
00:43:01
doing that, you're only not on the track, so you're just driving. Maybe when you're not like in a race it would
00:43:07
tear that off. That's what I I heard it was in the free room. I'll try. Also characters. What? Oh, there's a crab.
00:43:13
Side stepper. Nintendo, please make an update for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate on Switch 2 cuz I don't think they've
00:43:20
announced that yet. And that's crazy. There's a lot of There's a lot of Mario games. Well, that's not a Mario game. I
00:43:26
mean, it's coming with the OLED. It's coming with the OLED. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:32
Considering it's going to be another eight years until Switch, How long was it between Switch 2 and or Switch one
00:43:37
and switch? You're right. I think it's eight years. Six years. It's been eight years since the original one. OLED
00:43:43
release date. I think that was only like three years ago. Oh, 2021. Four years.
00:43:48
Side note, I've been getting into Forza lately and Ellis had to explain to me the difference between the games and
00:43:54
your whole Super Mario thing going off world and being slower. That's kind of
00:44:00
how it also works in Forza. In like Horizon Worlds, when you Forza Forza is like roads, you can like drive off the
00:44:06
road and then you're just like going slow. But is there is like a free roam area? Yeah, like the Horizon world. I
00:44:13
just learned this like two days ago. Ellis had to explain this all to me, but there's like a free roam part of the game and when you drive off road, it's
00:44:18
just slower. It's also a crazy realistic game. And this is an Italian plumber driving a go-kart, which makes it
00:44:24
better, which is realistic. This was the conversation we were having in the car. Forza Motorsport is a fairly realistic
00:44:31
game. Yeah, I would argue Horizon is like one step above Mario Kart as far as
00:44:38
goes. Like there may as well be a drift. You can be pokey as a character. I didn't even know that was its name, but
00:44:44
the like the tall guys from the uh the desert levels in Super Mario Super Mario
00:44:50
and Mario 64. You guys ever play two different racing games in the same day with drastically different levels of
00:44:56
realism? I don't really like racing games, so no. Um, anybody? Just me? What are the two? So, if if you go from like
00:45:02
Forza to Need for Speed or back to Forza, like you play on Forza and you get like one tire on the gravel and
00:45:08
you're like you feel it in the controller and you're like, "No, I got to get back on my line and it's like it it affects your speed and you do Need
00:45:13
for Speed. You just drive in a straight line."
00:45:19
Yeah, it's a it's a really funny dichotomy. But anyway, yeah, Switch 2, we will I'll be testing this. I'll be
00:45:25
gaming. I'm on a couple flights soon. Big flight to to Europe. Maybe I'll have just a switch. Yeah, the whole thing.
00:45:32
You're going to the whole of Europe? Yes. You're going to Europe? No, I'm just kidding. But the the whole European tour, baby. Hopefully, it can last the
00:45:38
entire flight. It probably won't, though. It probably won't. That's That's what I'm most nervous about cuz I use the Switch 2 mostly, not in docked mode.
00:45:44
Yeah. So, it's going to be interesting. I I've been playing uh Majora's Mask on my OLED, which is a Nintendo 64 online
00:45:52
thing, and uh it's fine. It doesn't lag. So, if this is not significantly, you
00:45:57
know, if the battery life on this is significantly worse, I don't know. Yeah, there are a lot of characters in Mario
00:46:03
Kart World. A lot of them you have to unlock, but there are a billion. There are That's why it's called world. Yeah.
00:46:10
Nice. There are a lot of them. And a lot of them are just like kind of there. You
00:46:15
can be like the penguin. Hell yeah. The penguin from what? They added the penguin that you race down like you luge
00:46:22
against it in Mario 64. 64. Yeah. Oh, I don't I wasn't born yet.
00:46:28
You weren't born in 64. It's year based. Just like the OS
00:46:33
versions. That would be wild. Yeah. Um, all right. Before we before I just
00:46:38
literally start playing this game instead of talking, do you want to talk about the Fediverse? Oh, yeah. Okay. I
00:46:43
forgot. Do you Do I indeed? Okay. Correct. We got a little Fetverse corner for you guys today. Um, it's exciting.
00:46:50
If you didn't hear, which you probably didn't cuz it's really niche. Uh, Fedor forum happened. What? Yeah. Fetti forum
00:46:58
without me. The Fedora. No, Fetty. No, Fetty. Fediverse forum. So much. It's an
00:47:04
online conference that has happened. When we did our uh Fedverse episode,
00:47:09
which you should go back and watch if you did not watch it back when we released it, uh we talked a little bit
00:47:14
about something called Bridgif Fed, which was this little project by a guy named Ryan Barrett. And the whole point
00:47:20
of bridged was being able to bridge an account from one platform to another
00:47:25
where they did not support the same protocol. Mhm. So a few months ago, BridgFed expanded and turned into this
00:47:31
project called a new social, which is sort of this extension of bridged, but they're getting more funding. They're
00:47:36
getting more people in community involvement to try to actually be able to, you know, bridge accounts between
00:47:43
social media platforms with non native protocols so that people never have to
00:47:48
be tied to any social media platform. Okay, so at Fettyiforum, uh they come on
00:47:54
guys, it's cool. I promise. a great name, Fetty Forum. They announced a new feature called bounce. Uh, and the idea
00:48:02
of bounce is this platform that allows you to jump bounce between one network
00:48:09
to another. So, the demo that they showed off was from basically if you have a Blue Sky account and you decide
00:48:15
you want to make a Masttodon account and and basically not have to like, you know, just start from scratch, move all
00:48:22
your followers. The problem with this obviously is cuz like the dream of blue sky or the dream of activity pub is when
00:48:27
you're moving to a different platform it uses the same protocol. But because blue sky and mastadon did not use the same
00:48:32
protocol this bounce feature effectively creates a mastadon account for you based
00:48:39
on your blue sky account but it creates it within this like area in between that
00:48:47
feeds information between the two. So when you are when you have a blue sky
00:48:52
account and you create the Masttodon account, yeah, all of your followers sort of stay on Blue Sky, you know,
00:48:59
they're all following you, but you automatically like follow all the same people with bridged accounts on Mastadon. Right now, the still very
00:49:06
early stages obviously, and the the demos that they're showing off are like kind of useful. They're really useful if
00:49:13
other people have bridged accounts. If you can get all of your friends to bridge their accounts, then it's amazing, but that's obviously not very
00:49:19
possible right now. Uh, so it was just a little exciting demo that they showed me that kind of like shows the future of
00:49:26
the Fedverse, which I think was cool. And I just wanted to call that out because we're on team Fediverse over
00:49:32
here. I can't even get Ellis on Blue Sky. I am on Blue Sky. I'm literally on
00:49:37
Blue Sky right now. I'm blue skying right now. I'm not on blue sky. I'm at work right now. But that's true. Anyway,
00:49:44
that probably didn't make a lot of sense, but I hope that they succeed. It's still the wild. That's all I wanted
00:49:49
to say. I think we should take it the trivia. I think we should bridge to trivia. Oh, another word for a segue is a
00:49:58
bridge. Bridge. Take it to the bridge. Take it to the bridge. So, yeah. Yeah.
00:50:04
I'm just going to hold it like this. Why not? There are no rules anymore. Is that an extra mic port on the back of that
00:50:09
mix? Don't worry about it. So, no, it's not happening. It's not happening. What was the first Super Mario game where
00:50:16
Mario would take a nap when the player was idle? Was it A, Super Mario Odyssey,
00:50:23
B, Super Mario 64, C, Super Mario World, or D, Super
00:50:30
Mario Karts? Marquez, you're welcome for the multiple choice. You have 25% chance. It's literally exactly 25%
00:50:37
chance because I'm going to throw a dart at a board and it's just going to hit one of them and that's it. And then the story would be great. Remember when I
00:50:43
was like there's a 25% chance and you're like why? I was like cuz there's four options.
00:50:51
Well, we'll think about this one. Answers at the end. We'll be right back.
00:50:58
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All right, welcome back. I asked all of you to do me a favor because we had a
00:53:49
subre a post on our subreddit who someone made an infographic of just the chronological list of all of the phones
00:53:56
they have ever owned period. And there were like 100 plus comments of people
00:54:01
just listing all of their phones. So, I asked all of us to list our phones chronologically and we're going to go
00:54:06
through them and I guess rate them or you guys can tell us how stupid we are
00:54:12
by the phones that we've had or ask questions about specific ones. I would own it if it was an absolute banger.
00:54:19
Come on. I want to go first. Wait, I have a question before we start, which is,
00:54:25
what are we gonna do about this guy to my left who literally switches phones
00:54:30
every six days? I asked everybody to pick Marquez is right there. You are worse than him. I asked everyone to pick
00:54:38
the phone that they use the most for that year. So, one phone per year max.
00:54:44
Yeah. Okay. Pro Max. But yes, because between Adam, Marquez, and David, we would be here for 3 hours if that was
00:54:50
the case. Oh, you're into Oh, you like phones? Name all of them. Phone. I think I
00:54:56
change phones every week for like five years. So, yeah. Yeah. I have a feeling
00:55:01
Ellis and I have the smallest lists. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You want to start? Sure. I mean, do you want me to start? I feel
00:55:06
like I have kind of the most boring one. Ellis was born with an iPhone mini in his hand. Yeah. Yeah. And then I
00:55:13
downgraded the 12 mini. No. Okay, gentlemen.
00:55:18
My first phone is something is a phone I loved so so dearly. Uh I saved up I
00:55:24
think I've told the story before. Yeah. I my parents did not want me to have a cell phone. So I saved up for like years
00:55:30
and it in the beginning of 8th grade I finally had enough money for the phone and for a year of service. Commit
00:55:37
crimes. Do it. Don't know if it's a crime but maybe it was. Who knows? It was a Samsung Intercept. It was
00:55:43
specifically the Virgin Mobile version of the Samsung Intercept which did not support EVDO revision zero which is uh
00:55:51
means it was slower than the Sprint one. Um it had a I believe a 3 megapixel
00:55:57
camera uh which was perfect because the screen was only 240 by 400 pixels and I
00:56:04
believe it ran Android 2. I had I had that for a few years and then in 10th
00:56:11
grade, no a few years later I dropped it so many times that the slide out keyboard hinge stopped working. Nice. So
00:56:18
that's when I switched uh to the Kiosera Rise, another phone I loved to death.
00:56:24
Amazing. I was a slide out keyboard person. Like like that was the only thing I needed on my phones was a slide
00:56:29
out keyboard. The Ker Rise had pretty similar specs. I don't think it's even worth going through them, but it did. I
00:56:35
think by the time I left that, I was running Android 4, so I was a real trailblazer. Played a lot of Pokemon in
00:56:41
trigonometry class. I'm sorry, Mr. True. Um, and then after that, I began my
00:56:47
journey on the iPhone, starting with the iPhone 4S. And we all know about these phones. So, instead of talking about
00:56:54
them, I'm going to tell you, uh, the back I was I was a real music guy. I still am, but like in my teenage years,
00:57:00
it was like my whole personality. And so my uh iPhone 4S, my first iPhone, had a
00:57:06
flying lotus case on it with the art the um the artwork for his album Cosmogramma. Oh my goodness. Uh then I
00:57:12
had a iPhone 5 with an Earl sweatshirt phone case that I loved super dearly.
00:57:18
Then I moved to an iPhone 8. Um which, uh no one in here knows what this is,
00:57:24
but there's a plugin called Entarus Autotune. Uh, and I took the the the
00:57:30
picture for that plugin and then slapped that on a Redbubble phone case. So, I had an autotune phone. That was also the
00:57:36
only phone I ever bought refurbished. And it did not last a year before
00:57:41
literally bricking itself. It It lasted about 9 months before it was bricked. Um, and I have not bought a refurbished
00:57:47
electronic since then, which I know is an outdated and bad opinion, but after spending $600 on an iPhone with no
00:57:53
warranty, that was a brick, I was like, "All right, well, that was stupid of me." Uh, after that, jumped a few years
00:58:00
ahead, got the 10S, which I always called the XS because it was in gold, and I thought the idea of having a gold
00:58:06
phone that had the word XS in it was really funny. Definitely a lot of reviews did that, too. Yeah, I thought
00:58:12
that phone was fantastic and I thought the camera in it was my favorite iPhone
00:58:17
camera I've ever had. Honest, which I know it's like not as good as my 12 mini camera, but the seven camera on the
00:58:22
iPhone, the iPhone 7, it was just so good. Then I uh I went to I think I told the story in the podcast, so I'll make
00:58:28
it really quick, but iPhone XS, loving that thing, was living in Philly. There was a uh hurricane scheduled to come
00:58:35
through. And my friends and I all had the great idea to drive two hours to a theme park called Dory Park, which is in
00:58:42
Pennsylvania. And we called Dornney Park and we were like, "You guys open?" They were like, "We're open, but the first
00:58:48
lightning strike or thunder, the whole park is closed and like you're not getting a refund." And so we were like, "Bet. Let's try it." Why would you do
00:58:55
that? So we drove 2 hours. We get there, the park's still open. It's pouring rain, no no thunder, no lightning. We
00:59:00
spend the whole day at amusement park with literally being the only people there. Like it was the kind of thing where like you'd finish a roller
00:59:06
coaster, there'd be no one in line and you could just be like again. Um uh but because it was pouring rain all
00:59:14
day, uh every ride was a water ride regardless of whether water was involved. And so that phone, the iPhone
00:59:20
XS, did not survive. Oh, really? Did not survive. which was funny because that's
00:59:25
when I went on my uh Boost Mobile arc where it was this like completely brutal
00:59:33
few weeks where I uh my bank locked me out of my accounts and needed me to
00:59:40
confirm my identity which you could only do on your phone and I didn't have a phone because it was broken and I
00:59:46
couldn't buy a new phone because I didn't have access to my bank accounts
00:59:51
and also Boost Mobile only let you buy phones with a credit card already associated with your account. So, I
00:59:56
couldn't start a new card or like ask my parents to help me out and what like so for like a month and a half, like six
01:00:02
weeks. I had no money and no phone and was just like trying to figure out how
01:00:07
to go. Eventually, I took the SIM card out of the 10s and put it back in the Kasera Rise because 3G towers were still
01:00:15
operational at that point. And so I was rocking the the Kiosera Rise for like
01:00:20
the the last like three weeks of that experiment and freaking loved it. It was like my first dumb phone for even though
01:00:27
it was running Android 4, I keep this thing on my keys that is a um it's a
01:00:33
it's a dummy 3.5 mm plug. Uh so that um if you have like a dongle like a
01:00:39
splitter dongle or any kind of dongle, you can just plug it into there and it like stays on your keys and stuff. But
01:00:45
the Keys Rise was so light that you could just plug the phone's headphone jack into this and wear the phone on
01:00:51
your belt like an accessory. That sounds dangerous. You're never going to find that phone ever. Then I eventually got
01:00:56
the uh 12 the famous purple 12 mini which uh I now split my time between the
01:01:03
12 mini. Wait, say the Kiosera Rise until the iPhone 12 mini. Well, no, there were lots of phones between those,
01:01:08
but then I came back to the Kasera Rise because I had no money and no phone. Nice. Um then uh oh my gosh the sorry
01:01:16
the funniest part of this Boost Mobile thing is like there was a Bank of America who at the time I was banking
01:01:21
with and there was a Boost Mobile store and they were like four blocks from each other in center city Philadelphia. And so while I spent so much time but going
01:01:27
to one they'd be like you need to figure this stuff out at your bank. Go to the bank they'd be like you need to do this on your phone. Go back to the Boost
01:01:32
Mobile store be like we can't do anything like without your cards. So one day I went to the Boost Mobile like this
01:01:39
whole thing exploded. to the Boost Mobile store is like, "You got to come back tomorrow." I went back to the Boost Mobile store the next day and it had
01:01:44
closed. They had literally shut down that location, which is the most Boost Mobile thing in the whole world. I know
01:01:50
I'm making the story take way too much time. Anyway, this is all to say now I'm like
01:01:56
7525, iPhone 25, minimal phone 75, and I'm so happy to be back on a physical
01:02:01
keyboard. And that's my phone journey. Aren't you glad I went to stay on the middle phone, right? I doesn't have to
01:02:08
be on it now. The reason I'm not going to stay on the minimal phone is because uh my really kind, nice, generous boss,
01:02:17
Marquez Brownley, is actually paying for my separate phone line on on that phone,
01:02:22
which uh is only is only going to be another two months. So, what if you just put your phone line on it? Uh Visible is
01:02:29
not a supported carrier for the minimal phone. Um otherwise, I would otherwise I would uh or I wouldn't have opened up a
01:02:36
boost mobile line anyway. Uh but yeah, so back on the physical keyboard, back on the dumb phone with back on the
01:02:43
boost. Yeah, back on back on the boost, baby. Anyway, um yes, I feel like this
01:02:48
was not very interesting, but uh thank you. Thank you for listening. And uh someone I'm just going to do this. Shut
01:02:56
up, Ed. Nice. Okay, David, you want to go? Yeah, I'll go. Okay. Uh, I had
01:03:03
originally this really it was a knockoff Razor because I don't know the Razer was
01:03:09
expensive or something. I don't remember. I remember going to the Verizon store and they had the Razer and it was really cool but it couldn't
01:03:15
afford it. So, they gave me the like really cheap like knockoff like Samsung one or something and it was but the
01:03:21
battery life was amazing. It was thick. It was a thick boy. Very nice. Uh, it lasted it lasted about two weeks I think
01:03:28
on a charge. Yeah. And used mini USB. the iPhone came out. Um, the famous
01:03:34
famous plug that I make that I was in the audience there. Okay. And I was like, it's cool, but it was only on AT&T
01:03:41
and also was really expensive or I guess it was Singular at the time and I couldn't afford it. So, I was like,
01:03:46
well, boohoo. Then Android came out and I was like, and so when the Sam the HTC
01:03:53
Thunderbolt got announced, which was the first 4G phone in America. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, "Oh my god, there's finally an
01:04:00
Android phone on Verizon." Worst battery life I've ever seen. Oh my god. Not only
01:04:07
Okay, so I had it for about a week and it was amaz It was sort of a precursor
01:04:12
to like the HTC1 M6, M7, M8, M9 stuff.
01:04:17
Uh, so the build quality was amazing. It was like made of metal. It was super nice. Had a really good screen. But not
01:04:23
only was the build quality like horrible, I mean, not build quality, the battery life horrible, it literally
01:04:28
burned my hand because I was trying to do Skype and one other thing at the same time. So, it burned my It was so cool.
01:04:36
Look how cool it looks. The the old clock widgets on Android are they're peak. They're just amazing. And it looks
01:04:43
so cool. It had frontfacing speakers. It had a kickstand built into it. It was dope as hell, but unfortunately it
01:04:50
burned my hand and so I had to return it. Uh, so I switched it out for a Samsung Droid Charge and the build
01:04:55
quality of Samsung Droid Charge was doodoo water. Much worse. It was made of plastic. Uh, it was flimsy. It was
01:05:03
crappy. I reviewed that. Yeah, the Droid Charge. It was pretty bad. I don't I honestly should have just dealt with the
01:05:09
pain. Um, but then the Samsung Galaxy S3 got announced and that was like a big
01:05:17
deal in the phone world. Everyone was super super hyped for that phone. I think it was like one of the first one
01:05:22
gigahertz processor phones. I think it was the first one gigahertz processor phone. It was a big deal. I was really
01:05:28
excited for that. I pre-ordered it. It was the first phone I pre-ordered and that was amazing. Galaxy S3. That was
01:05:34
the first one to introduce the like touch whiz, like water droplet sounds when every time you unlock it, it would
01:05:40
go like, you know, HTC. Very nice. Uh LG G3 was
01:05:46
the next phone. It was the first 1440p phone. Yeah. And it came with all these demo videos on it that was like, look at
01:05:53
1440p resolution. And it was like all those YouTube videos that you watch where it's like sweeping through vistas
01:06:00
and it was like bright and it was like show this to your friends and buy more LG stuff and that was great cuz like
01:06:06
that was an awesome LG phone. It had the volume rockers were on the back underneath and the power button was right in between. It was so dope. I love
01:06:13
that. It was super cool. It had a huge screen. So I really liked that. Uh Nex
01:06:18
So Nexus 6P gets announced or sorry Nexus 6 gets announced. Shamu. Shamu.
01:06:24
Previously, I had wanted to have Nexus phones cuz they were all so cool and so affordable. Like the LG, like the Nexus
01:06:30
4 was the sparkly back and it was like $300. It was so awesome. But it wasn't available everywhere. It's not available
01:06:36
everywhere. Definitely not on Verizon. Most of the Nexuses were not on Verizon and I was on my family's plan and I
01:06:42
could not get off and it sucked. But the Nexus 6 got announced and it came out and it got announced at $650 which was
01:06:50
unbelievably expensive at the time. There was all this outrage on Droid Life. The comment section were going
01:06:56
crazy and I was just like, "Wow, I can't believe they do this." And then the next day I bought one and um yeah, I really
01:07:03
got convinced because Google Fi got announced with the Nexus 6. It was like
01:07:09
now it's called Google project fi or project oh no Google wireless now is what it's called. The name has changed a
01:07:15
few times but because it got announced I was like you know what I'm finally a freshman in college. I should get off my
01:07:22
mom's phone plan going to be to totally independent. So I got an Nexus 6. That phone was awesome. It was basically
01:07:30
Emoto X uh 2013 but way bigger because the rumor was that they were going to
01:07:36
work with Huawei on that phone and Huawei pulled out at the last minute and Moto was like, "We could just make a
01:07:41
bigger Moto X." Had a dimple on the back. Yeah. And so that's what they did for that. Nexus 6P was the next one.
01:07:49
That's when Huawei came back swinging. It was basically the build quality of the HTC Thunderbolt, but even better.
01:07:56
Many people rever the Nexus 6P as the like nicest designed smartphone ever made and I still think that it's like
01:08:03
really high up there. I would argue the current Pixels look the way they do because of the 6P. Yeah. Well, sort of.
01:08:09
Yeah. Yeah. It had the visor invisor. That's true. Yeah. It was pretty sweet.
01:08:15
Uh and then from there on out, because I was on Project Fi, I was able to live that Google goodness life. They
01:08:20
announced the Pixel 1 and I bought that and I bought the Pixel 2 and then I bought the Pixel 3 XL with the Omega
01:08:26
bathtub notch. That was pretty sweet. Um, then I had the Pixel 4 XL
01:08:32
with the radar that would destroy the battery and never work. Uh, and then the Pixel 4a came out and I still hold that
01:08:40
I think the Pixel 4a was one of the best smartphones ever made cuz it was back to like
01:08:45
$350. Uh, it just had a really, really seamless UI. Like the Pixel UI was
01:08:51
really maturing. It had Google Assistant was really amazing at that time. It was really light. Had one camera. It was
01:08:57
really small. It was a small phone. Smallandphone.com. 5.81 in. Um, yeah, it was awesome. Rear fingerprint reader.
01:09:04
Yeah. I think my accent power button. Accent power button. That's what I'm telling you. Yeah. Yeah. I think my
01:09:11
title for my review of that phone was like a phone so good you won't even have to use it. because you just use Google
01:09:17
Assistant for everything. Yeah. And then the screen was really good when you did actually use it. Smallandroidphone.com
01:09:23
is a real website and that's a petition to make small It's run by Eric Mikovski which is the Pebble guy. Oh, really?
01:09:30
Yeah. He actually was really excited about the uh minimal phone getting the
01:09:36
Android layer unlocked because it's a small phone. So, or is the iPhone 3?
01:09:41
Light phone 3. Sorry. Yeah, minimal phone is huge. Yeah. Anyway, Pixel 5 also small. Really awesome. It was that
01:09:48
uh it was a little bit cheaper and a little bit like it was made of plastic again, but it was that cool like they
01:09:54
had it was made of metal but also plastic and they were able to get the wireless charging through the metal because they like carved a hole in the
01:10:01
metal in the center. That was really awesome. Pixel 6, super exciting because
01:10:07
it was the big redesign of the Pixel. They added material U to the Pixel 6. Super awesome.
01:10:14
Then I became became depressed
01:10:20
and bought an iPhone 14 Pro. And the reason I bought it, if we're
01:10:26
going to be honest, is because it was square and I just that really won me
01:10:31
over. But then I moved to the Pixel Fold because that was dope. And then the
01:10:37
iPhone 15 Pro came out and it had USBC and it was also square. So, it brought
01:10:43
me back. I was back on the iPhone 15 Pro Max. Uh, then the Pixel Fold 2 came out
01:10:49
and I was on that for a while because it was cool. It was pretty cool. And then the iPhone 16 Pro came out and it looked
01:10:55
exactly the same as the I love how the the Pixel needs to add a whole second screen and the iPhone's like USBC and
01:11:02
David's like, "Damn it, man." Yeah. Anyway, that's pretty much where I'm at. Um, I will say I reviewed probably like
01:11:09
200 phones in between there and I liked a lot of them, didn't like a lot of them, but probably my favorite phone that I reviewed in between there was the
01:11:16
Oppo Find X2 Pro, if you want to say that. That phone rocked. God, a lot of throwbacks here. Yeah. So, that's my
01:11:23
chronology. This is going to be a long podcast episode. Mine's not that long. I can go quick. Mine is mostly like, look,
01:11:29
he's old. I I looked at yours and I I was I realized where I mis misremembered
01:11:36
the Samsung flip phone thing, but you have one Samsung flip phone in here that when I was in elementary school was like
01:11:42
if you had that thing, you were the coolest kid on block. I generally well
01:11:48
my first my first phone so 2003 I put time stamps for this. The audioox CDM
01:11:54
9100. God damn you are old. This thing was a What the heck is that? This phone
01:12:01
I had the worst phone out of all of my friends, but this thing was
01:12:07
indestructible. Looks like it. When you owned it, were the buttons that color of
01:12:12
yellow or is that because of time? No, that is that was a design choice. Uh, I mean, it was also like the backlight
01:12:19
kind of had this like greenish hue to it. Um, greenish yellow hue to it, so you could see it in the dark. I believe
01:12:25
it's a greenish yellow do if you will. Wait, I might have had this phone. Um, this thing. No, my my friends used to be
01:12:32
like, "Oh, this phone sucks." And they would take and throw it against the wall and the battery would pop out and then I
01:12:37
just pop the battery back in and it was totally fine. RIP removable batteries. Yeah. You really had to learn like T9 on
01:12:44
that thing if you wanted to type at any sort of speed. For the young people that listen to us, T9 is when you have a
01:12:50
number pad and each of them have three letters on them and you learn how to like touch type words underneath the
01:12:56
table. Well, it's a little weird because you could either do ABC, which was like if the two key has ABC, A is one touch,
01:13:04
B is two touch. But T9 was like predictive. So you would just type all the letters that were in the word and
01:13:11
then so if you press if it was dog, you would press 3, six, what's G? four and
01:13:18
it would either say dog or you would press the arrow buttons to pick other words that have those amount of letters
01:13:23
in it under the table so fast. That's a pro. You really on this phone had to
01:13:29
learn about uh it was called like button lock or cuz like if you just stuck this
01:13:35
in your pocket, it would just press buttons and call people and you would just leave voicemails to random people when you're like on your bike. So that
01:13:41
was a fun time. Then I got my first flip phone, the Samsung A67
01:13:48
A670. Um, whatever. It's a silver Samsung flip phone. Had a camera on it.
01:13:53
First time I had a camera 2005. I was Verizon for everything. Okay. Until I,
01:13:58
which also you getting a your own phone line in high school is very mature. I
01:14:05
think I was dating living with Claire before I got my own phone line. It was a
01:14:10
thing that I had to like I had to beg for cuz I was never around. I think college is when I got my own your own
01:14:17
own phone line. Yeah. Wait, your own line? My own? Yeah. I was on my family plan with Verizon until college. Oh, you
01:14:22
mean your own plan? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I was talking about. Got it. Yeah. Um, then I
01:14:27
did get an LG Voyager. This is when I was like, I like phones. I want this. This thing's sick. Screw the iPhone and
01:14:35
all the iPhone lovers cuz this is 2007. Yeah. Yeah. Um, this is who needs an
01:14:41
iPhone. I mean, I was also someone who didn't have an iPod. I had a creative zen. Um, and like so I didn't like I
01:14:49
don't know why I didn't like Apple stuff back then. Um, so I got them. It was us versus them. Us back then though them
01:14:57
Apple was the nerdy thing like kind of. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't the mainstream thing in 200. iPhone was the Android of
01:15:04
phones. It kind of feels like iPhone iPhones started I would say the Android of iPhones Mac beforehand was like the
01:15:12
coder really nerdy I liked it a bit cuz I did video editing and like that was
01:15:17
but I really like Windows better. Um but anyways got my Voyager until one day I
01:15:23
tripped and broke both screens when it was in my pocket. So then I got the Samsung Alias.
01:15:30
That's the one I was talking about. This phone was Do you remember this phone? Yeah, I do. It's so cool. For those of
01:15:35
you who, if there's not a picture on the screen, you could open it like a flip upwise, upways, or a fold cuz it had
01:15:42
this one hinge on the top right corner. So, you could either have it like regular keypad on a phone or if it was
01:15:49
sideways, then it was like a landscape uh the LG Wing of 2008. No, I was
01:15:54
looking for some and there was an LG Wing of 2008 from Samsung. I forgot what it was called. Then my first real
01:16:01
Android phone, the Droid Aerys, which yeah, by the way, this is this is around when the 3D uh 3D cameras and 3D screens
01:16:09
were like they were trying to make it a thing and the EVO 3D came out around that time, too. Do you remember this? I
01:16:15
think it was Sprint only or something. I don't remember. I remember at my time on Verizon, like if you were doing the
01:16:20
Verizon upgrade plan, your two choices were this or the droid, the first droid. And you did this instead. This was
01:16:27
cheaper. My mom got this. I got this the little it had a little track ball on it. Um but again flames old Android clock
01:16:35
widget. It's so good. It's just nostalgic. That's the HTC Sense widget.
01:16:40
Yeah. Um this thing was awesome. I remember uh like rooting this and thinking I broke it a hundred different
01:16:46
times. Um then I got a Droid 2. Then then I started in the Galaxy stuff. S3,
01:16:52
S5. This is very clearly you can tell my plan was an upgrade every two years. So
01:16:58
S3, S5, S7. Then I started working here. Oh. We got an some It wasn't a review
01:17:05
unit. It was I think you did something with Casey and they sent like a gift package that had a Note 8 in it and you
01:17:12
didn't want it. So I was like, I'll take it. Favorite phone I've ever had. Note 8 was fire. Note 8. Best phone I think
01:17:17
that's ever come out. It was peak. Wasn't fire cuz the Note 7 was fire. It was. Yes. This was um fire though. Um,
01:17:25
but the I think like the coolest part of this is the home button was like this button kind of under the screen. So, it
01:17:30
was just a screen button, but it had a physical press and like a feedback to it, which is fantastic. That was
01:17:36
awesome. Then I started my Pixel journey. Pixel 3 XL bathtub, Pixel 4 XL
01:17:41
Soleie, Pixel 6, Pixel 7, Xen Phone 10. Yes. And now I am back on the Galaxy
01:17:49
train with a Galaxy S24. This is a crazy way to tell the passage of time cuz I've known you since your 4XL days and then I
01:17:55
keep scrolling. I'm like, "Wo, I've known him for so many phones." I have a question for you, Andrew. Yeah.
01:18:01
Why'd you go back to the Galaxy S24? I feel like Samsung's the most boring like boring phone right now, especially the
01:18:07
regular one. I don't like you have a Pixel. I don't even remember why. I was like, I kind of miss Samsung and went
01:18:15
back to it. I like the size of it. Um the price of it is pretty solid and from
01:18:20
a Zen phone. So, you also gained like an extra camera and wireless charging and gained an extra camera from the smaller
01:18:26
Pixel. The new Zen phone has wireless charging. This one did tall. Didn't they didn't they wireless charging to the
01:18:33
last one that was it? That's this one. The 10? Yeah, the 10. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, true. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
01:18:38
sorry. I did. This did have wireless charging. That's why I switched to it. Gotcha. I beat the hell out of that phone. Um, yeah. Oh, I also really, the
01:18:45
real reason I went from Zen phone to S24 and didn't stay on Zen phone other than it didn't was small is they got boring.
01:18:52
I wanted a Dbrand case that had the Mags safe puck on it. I still think Mags Safe
01:18:57
is the best accessory on any phone, period. So, it has to have a a case that
01:19:02
But you could I mean, the Xen phone 10 doesn't definitely doesn't need a case. I I had the sticker on the back. It's
01:19:08
still annoying to like hold with like this magnetic sticker on it. I see. But no, I think mine's still on my desk. It
01:19:13
uh But yeah, mine's kind of a boring except for that Audioox CDM 9100. I
01:19:18
think you should switch to a Kiosera Rise. I might have to look for one. Also, Andrew, I just want to say in my
01:19:25
heart, you'll forever be a Zen Phone 10. That's just a phone. I can't I see that phone and I'm just like, that's Andrew's
01:19:31
phone. I like that. Yeah. You may think that you're a Zen Phone 7, but you'll always be a Zen phone 10 to me, Andrew.
01:19:37
Yeah. All right, Mark, the man of the hour. Uh, yeah. Here's how I did this. I
01:19:43
I just went year by year since every year since 2006, I picked what I believed to be the phone that I used the
01:19:50
most during that year. Some of these years were hard where I had two or three phones that I used a lot during the year, but I try to just pick the one
01:19:55
that I used the most. So, presented without nuance, every year from 2006 to 2025, my daily driver 06
01:20:04
uh Samsung flip phone, I believe it's called the U340. 2007 Motorola Droid. 2008, the same
01:20:12
Motorola Droid. 2009, the same Motorola Droid. Overclocked.
01:20:17
[Applause] Yeah. Custom ROM, the whole thing. 2010, the Droid X. These are all Verizon
01:20:24
phones. 2011, the first and only phone I've ever waited in line for, the
01:20:30
Samsung Galaxy Nexus. So jealous. 2012, that phone was how I found you on
01:20:36
YouTube. I did a bunch of videos on that phone. Yeah, that was on Verizon. Droid X was sick. Yeah, Droid X was sick.
01:20:42
Droid X was a good one. Droid X was awesome. Then 2011, Galaxy Nexus. So then 2012, Galaxy Note 2.
01:20:51
2013, HTC1 M7 Google Play Edition. Let's Google. The smile on your face reading
01:20:59
that out loud is like that phone was perfect. That phone was actually perfect. Google Play Edition. 2014,
01:21:05
OnePlus 1. 2015, Galaxy Note 5. 2016, Nexus 6P.
01:21:13
Yes. 2017, Google Pixel XL. 2018,
01:21:18
OnePlus 6, 2019, OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren Edition. Oh my god. Okay. The also
01:21:25
perfect. That phone is also perfect. Even the 7T also is perfect. Yeah, just saying. 2020 iPhone 12 Pro Max cuz I
01:21:32
split my Android phones too much. Android uh 20, sorry, 2021 Galaxy S21
01:21:39
Ultra, 2022 Pixel 7 Pro, 2023 Xen Phone 10, 2024, S24 Ultra, 2025, S25 Ultra.
01:21:47
You put the Xen Phone 10 on there. Yeah, I use that. I use the Xen Phone 9 a lot. I didn't make the cut over the Pixel 7
01:21:54
Pro, but those two Zen phones in a row were heavy for me. Yeah, that's my that
01:21:59
is my list. Wow. And do we think that Pixel 10 is gonna be good enough to dethrone the S25 Ultra? I'm hoping,
01:22:07
honestly. Yeah, Pixel Pixel 10 Pro or 10 Pro XL, whatever. And the big one ends
01:22:13
up being. That could be that could be interesting. It's supposed to come out in August. Yeah, cuz there hasn't been a Pixel as my number one on here
01:22:20
since Pixel 7 Pro. That's crazy. And I remember Pixel 3 XL almost made my list,
01:22:27
but that I think was the same year as one of those OnePlus phones that I that was just amazing. I tried to run the regular Pixel 3 because the XL had the
01:22:33
Omega notch, but the regular Pixel 3 had the worst battery life since like Yeah, since like the 3XL was good though.
01:22:40
Great camera. The notch was so funny. It was ridiculous. So I'm just wondering who like okayed that. It was character.
01:22:47
Honestly, you look at phones today and they all have like some visual character thing. You look at the Pixel 3 XL, it's like, "Yep, that's the phone with the
01:22:53
notch." Mega bath. Fine. Yeah. I wish they had more software features though with that notch. Anyway, yeah, Adam. Uh,
01:22:59
T-Mobile Sidekick 3, Motorola Droid, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Samsung Galaxy S3, LG Nexus 5, Motorola Nexus 6 Shamu,
01:23:07
Apple iPhone 6S, Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, uh, Google Pixel, Google Pixel 2 XL,
01:23:12
iPhone X, Google Pixel 3, Google Pixel 4a, the perfect phone, Google Pixel 6A,
01:23:17
Google Pixel 7, Apple iPhone 12 Pro, Apple iPhone 15 Pro, Samsung Galaxy S24
01:23:22
Ultra, Google Pixel 9 Pro. Big uh big pixel history for this guy.
01:23:29
Yeah. Wow. Well, there you have it. Loves his pixels. I think it's about time for our final trivia break. Trivia.
01:23:38
[Music] Trivia, dude. I think we like phones.
01:23:43
Not anymore. Now we just like I feel like I feel like that was me back then. I'm all in on AI. Not anymore, bro. I
01:23:50
just have a pin over it. I feel like that just made all of us realize like 5 years ago we loved folks cuz like
01:23:56
everything we said from like 2015 to 2020 we're like oh my god that was awesome. When you look at the pictures
01:24:03
of these things they're so cool looking and now they just look the freaking the grin on my face when I got to say HTC1
01:24:09
and then it slowly faded away like the light left my eyes. I said
01:24:15
S24 S25. Practically the only thing that differentiates these things now is how
01:24:20
the freaking camera looks for it. And whether or not it comes in gray or
01:24:27
power ranking, if I were to power ranking like phones that I could go back to in use today, the top two by a head
01:24:34
and shoulders are the HTC1 M7 Play Edition and the OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren
01:24:40
Edition. Those two phones were flawless. No notes. I'm s bring them back. Okay.
01:24:45
But the OnePlus 7T Pro Pro McLaren Edition had like an issue where like it it because they had the curved No, the
01:24:52
curved sides. Mhm. It would like have ghost touches all the time. I just got used to it. It was incredible software.
01:24:59
Fast charging, great cameras for a OnePlus phone. Oh, I love that. And it was good value. Had like 12 gigs of RAM.
01:25:05
Extra RAM. That's true. It did have 12 gigs of RAM. Sorry, I interrupted. Okay, trivia. So, starting in 2007, ending at
01:25:13
I couldn't find a clear end date for this. Um, but it seems like Miis are slowly getting phased out anyway. But
01:25:19
for a while, starting in 2007, Nintendo would occasionally release what they called special Miis. These were Japanese
01:25:26
celebrities and mostly Nintendo executives, and they were not editable. But there was one other distinguishing
01:25:33
visual feature that signal that your Mi was a special me. What was that
01:25:39
distinguishing feature? Hit it. That the the special ones were special,
01:25:44
right? Like the the ones they distributed. What? Not not the ones you made. The ones they distributed. The
01:25:50
celebrity the celebrity me. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Hey. Ungovernable. Ungovernable.
01:26:02
Yeah. For those uh actually even video viewers wouldn't know this. It's like 100° in this room right now. It's so
01:26:09
hot. I don't think it's that bad. Wrong. We're get tomorrow's going to be worse. Yeah, there you go. All right.
01:26:15
Who wants to read their answer first? Uh, I put little stars above their head.
01:26:21
Mhm. But it seems like you wrote a pun that I'm pretty stoked for. I wrote Reggie fills a me. I kind of want to
01:26:27
give him a point just for that. We'll I'll talk about it with my host. But yeah, that is wrong. There were no There were no stars. Oh, I just wrote they
01:26:33
sparkle. They do not sparkle. I said there would be some object floating over their head. Unfortunately, that is also
01:26:38
wrong. The correct answer is they had gold pants. Very nice. Cool. And no one else could
01:26:44
have gold pants. No. Miis had uh gray pants or if a Mi was favored on your Wii
01:26:50
console, it received red pants. I'm wearing
01:26:55
All right, quick update on the score. Marquez with 25, Andrew with 15, David
01:27:02
29, potentially 30. No. No. If you were losing, I would have given it to you. But I can't I can't. Yeah. Given David,
01:27:10
but it could match my age. That would be ridiculous. That'd be cool. You got to earn that point.
01:27:15
That would be cool. But still at 29. All right. Next question. What was the first Super Mario game where Mario would take
01:27:21
a nap when the player was idle? A. Super Mario Odyssey. B. Super
01:27:29
Mario 64. C. Super Mario World. 4 D.
01:27:34
Super Mario carts. Marquez is just straight up guessing. I'll hold it and throw the
01:27:40
marker point at it. They're actually doing it. They're Oh my
01:27:46
god. Hurry up. The time's almost out. Oh, what did it just do? I think it hit the n. For audio listeners, Marquette
01:27:53
drew Marquez drew like a dart board and he threw a marker at it and picked A,
01:28:01
which is wrong. Uh, David, what did you say? I said B.
01:28:06
Andrew, what did you say? I said 64, which was B. I don't remember. It was correct either way. Two points for both
01:28:12
of you. Let's go. Two points for both of us. No, two collectively shared amongst
01:28:18
both of you. I get both. Hey, I'm 30. Okay. I told you it'd be
01:28:23
cool if it my score matched my age. Wow. Cuz now I have 30 points. It was a good
01:28:28
track. I thought your birthday was like was two months ago. Wait, what letter was it? Yeah, it's still the same age from two months ago. Well, why are you
01:28:34
talking? This is old news. You've been 30 for a minute now. I know, but I'm just saying if my score became the same age as me. If my grandmother had wheels,
01:28:41
she'd be a bike. What? What letter was the right answer? B. B as in boy. It'd
01:28:47
be the first time. I know. All right, my plan worked. Well,
01:28:54
this has been a long podcast. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening with us and thanks for uh doing trivia with us
01:29:00
and all of our rambling. Check out the Switch unboxing/impressions video. Let us know what you want to see in the full review. And also let us know what you
01:29:07
think is going to happen at WWDC. See you there. Bye. Thank you to the Nintendo Switch
01:29:14
too. Wait for produced by Adam. Waveform was produced by Adam Molina and Ellen. We're partners of Vox Media Podcast
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01:29:46
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