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because normal music has definitive be what's so funny watch me the M it's so
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itchy it's a child's mask and so it like scratching my eyeballs and I'm doing this for you video video anyway so yeah
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I think there's something cool here of like um this is a mess my I I can't fit my normal headphones under my hat so I'm
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using my like digital headphones which have like a 2 millisecond delay so I'm like almost stumbling over every word
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I'm saying right now my eyeballs are on fire this a mess that's what we do happy
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Halloween what is up ghosts and ghouls of the internet welcome back to another episode of the way form podcast I know
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that you're watching this on November 1st or possibly even later but for us right now as of recording it's spooky
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season baby it's Halloween cue the music what music I guess they didn't I was kind of hoping they had something I
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don't know Adam looked like he was reaching for something anyway we are your host I'm David and I
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am Andrew and uh Marquez has to be out today because he dressed up as a skeleton and then he just became a
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skeleton and uh you know that sounds like he died I would have used zombie cuz he's sick well if he was a zombie he
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could have walked here slowly actually he is walking slowly from his apartment
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uh house right okay anyway oh there we go there's the music
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I don't like the like heartbeat is this going to get us demonetized
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no every time royalty free anyway in this episode uh we have a lot of it's
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not royalty free we just paid for it oh okay anyway in this episode we got a lot
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of stuff going on Apple had a whole week of releasing new Macs so we're going to talk about all that Nintendo dropped a
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number of apps this week as well which was very random uh and then we'll wrap it up with more Pokemon stuff so but
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first we're all wearing Halloween costumes we are audio listeners we are all wearing Halloween costumes they
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already knew that what do you mean how you can hear it oh yeah yeah yeah okay screaming who wants to go first um I'll
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go first I feel like I'm the most recognizable here I Zoro so a surprising amount of the
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pieces of my costume were labeled Zoro um but no I am famed criminal uh
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enemy of Mayor McCheese I'm the Hamburglar commit crime
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do it I've been prepared for this one for years perfect I love it beautiful I
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am dressed as wart from Over the Garden Wall it's a Cartoon Network show that's
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amazing and everyone should watch it I thought it was a book what am I thinking of I don't know what you're thinking of first I thought you were
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character but I realiz that made no sense pretty good but what oh thank you did they already did they release that
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Ser that limited series November 3rd yeah dear listener it is November 3rd when you are listening to this go watch
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the stop motion special that Cartoon Network is dropping on YouTube wait Adam that's really point I know I am wor it's
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really good is that did you make that Cape or no no this came from I want to say Amazon or something
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The Washington Post no you are on point with that
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though thank you yeah normally Z's here dressed as the Frog and my fiance Jess is dressed as Greg so as a unit we are
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the characters can you send a photo yeah put it in the podcast the it's just me
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so if you know you know just yeah just Andrew what is your costume I am an axel
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it is a amphibian MH um weirdly I only know about it because there's a disc
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golf player named Simon lazat who has like his signature disc that's got an axel on it and it's like everyone's
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favorite version of this disc very cute and then I just happened to be trying to buy a Halloween costume for Lane and I
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thought it was really cute and then I just bought one for myself also I have a tail too oh oh listener he's standing up
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and holding up his tail are we going to get demonetized is Lane also an axel a one
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exact same color and everything I can't wait to trigt treating tonight yeah it's going to be very cute fun fact during
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the pandemic when like we were all at home I released a short story children's
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book about an axel wait what yeah I know why you released it I've lived many lives is it on Amazon yeah it's on
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Amazon it was like a self-published thing wait that's amazing do you have a print of it can I read it to no you cannot David you're up okay I have to
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stand up for this one cuz you have to see the whole thing okay do you want me to hold on I'm going to describe what
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David's wearing and then audio listeners along with video listeners try and guess try and guess we'll give you like 30
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seconds stop doing the dishes and just picture just like yeah imagine this okay David
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am Sleek fur jacket kind of crappie would I say like a little short big
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collar un unzippered with really nice bell bottom maroon pants serving looks
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giving very serving looks and then on his shirt is a bunch of words from
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magazines and now David do you want to tell us what you are all right
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so what happens when you have words all over yourself and you're also a model
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you're a language model yeah nice is that you wore that
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this weekend right I did well no I wasn't results when well
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so here's my question when someone came up to you and said what is that did you say language model or did you say what
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happens when works I said this is like the the the the ladder okay this is like
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proba people are confused this is the most B area this is like you walking around
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with like a can of fabris at an Optimus Prime action figure and you're like I'm a diffusion Transformer that's right
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baby yeah well look I told everyone at the party it was going to kill on the podcast so I hope it I hope it is I hope
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it is so it's up to you all uh yeah most people got kind of annoyed cuz look I
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also am annoyed at these language models um so wait people got annoyed at you
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yeah it was sort of like a oh you're one of those guys no no no no no no just
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make CU we covered this anyway whatever so okay we did our costumes Marquez is
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dead for Halloween no sick zombie zombie zie he'll be here eventually um anyway
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we should get into the news of this week we got a lot of Nintendo coverage this week which is actually amazing um we
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have both the Nintendo music streaming app what yes this dropped this morning
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as of recording and also the Pokémon Trading Card Game pocket for mobile
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which is crazy it's been a great week for me and my inner child dude for real so the Nintendo music streaming app is
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basically this app that you can have on your phone that looks a lot like Spotify it looks a lot like YouTube music too
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it's like Spotify and YouTube music bab yeah and it just has like a most of the tracks from like most of the games and
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there's going to be more coming later and I think that Nintendo knows that people love this iconic music I mean in
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every Super Smash Brothers Brawl game there was like a music SE where you could just listen to music from the various games and I spent so much time
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just like listening to Animal Crossing music as a kid dude I have okay so this is going to be turn into a mini me rant
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so if you don't care skip forward 2 minutes yeah so every year my top artist
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on Spotify wrapped is always some random game developer that makes music because
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I always listen to gaming soundtracks when I'm even when I'm editing I'll have it like really low into background while
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I'm switching camera angles and stuff for the podcast if I'm like writing or editing pictures or anything I'm always
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having like that kind of music behind me like just small 8bit gaming music so every year that's what it is I have a
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whole playlist dedicated to it now this app is included if you have Nintendo music online which is only like $4 a
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month or something like that so it's like I think it's like 20 bucks a year really I get charged like $433 every
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month so I don't maybe I didn't do the yearly option yeah but whatever it is it's like is that the cheapest music
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streaming service right now well with the smallest liary I pay $2 a month for Spotify cuz I have a family plan yeah
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but family plan is like actually 60 you just hacked it 60 or whatever it cost like $28.99 or something I don't know
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but I think this might be the cheapest one and for me personally yeah but it only has video game that's all I listen
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to that's what I'm saying like this is so good for me yeah $4 a month you're right there's something else that's kind of interesting here which is uh as
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someone who uh went to Music School uh video game yeah shut up this is my time you're
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right you're right you're right right no but uh video game music is written really differently than all other music
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because it it serves a really different function one of the interesting things about video game music is that this mask is so itchy like dude I'm hot as hell in
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this right now one of the thing that's really interesting about video game music is that it's written to be layered
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and it's written to be open-ended because in theory a player could spend an infinite amount of time in an area
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and that music needs to Loop seamlessly and something cool about the idea of a music streaming app that only streams
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music that's designed to be ambiently looped which they added features for so
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I saw that but if if there was some sort of AI thing that they could incorporate
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here that could plug into your phones knowing what you're doing at all times
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which it does um and could actively do the same Blends and Fades and layers
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that a game engine is doing cuz the game engine knows that your character is doing all the time it could be a really
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cool way to like and you couldn't do this with normal music because normal music has definitive begin what's so
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funny you watch me the Mas it's so itchy it's a child's mask and so it's like scratching my eyeballs and I'm doing
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this for you video video anyway so yeah I think there's something cool here of like um this is a mess my I I can't fit
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my normal headphones under my hat so I'm using my like digital headphones which have like a 2 millisecond DeLay So I'm
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like almost stumbling over every word I'm saying right now my eyeballs are on fire this is a mess what we do happy
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Halloween I mean speaking of the you know looping features they actually introduced a number of really
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interesting features into this app so you can Loop songs or extend tracks for
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15 30 or 60 minutes I had I wanted to ask you about this do you think you know how in Adobe there's like that remix
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feature I used to use that all the time in Android auor and you just like if you have a 3 minute song and your video is 4 minutes you just stretch it out to 4
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minutes and it like ambiently kind of makes it sound like a smooth transition to a 4-minute track yeah do you think
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that's what this is doing or did they record 15 minute 30 minute versions 60- minute versions it says uh select tracks
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15 30 and 16 minutes and I think in games like Animal Crossing where there's just music infinitely I think there are
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Parts like Ellis was saying like in the song where it kind of like Fades into a thing and they naturally made it so it's
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able to Loop in certain areas they just chunks and they them very eily
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video G mus is the easiest to do this with because the like ambient part of it yeah no all of it like cuz cuz the the
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whole thing when you're writing video game music is when you're scoring a film you have definitive times when when
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things change when you're scoring a game a a guy your character could walk into a new area at literally any point in the
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track so you have to you it has to be written in such a way that it can blend into any other piece of music completely
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seamlessly what I was trying to say is like intro music into something or like something that's very specifically like
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the cutscene opening of something might not be able to do that because it's like the default open one where there's like
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the ambient walking around music that like probably has to be whatever I think they take advantage of uh loading times
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cuz if you like walk into a new area it kind of Fades and then it goes you know like in Zelda or something
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yeah and that's that's sort of what I meant with when I said layer L of this like you think of ace of as
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like one thing in the same way you do with a film score normal song where there will be hits and moments and
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cutscene moments that are designed to come in and out at any possible point over that ambient Ambient layer um I
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think this is really cool picture like this is a little big brothery but picture like you guys you guys both go
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to the gym you go to the gym too you guys are all gym I went to a gym yesterday so picture like you're you're
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wearing your watch and your watch knows like oh his heart rate just went up he must have just done some pre-workout oh
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he's like he's clearly like changing into gym clothes and your airpods just start
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going there's been years of people doing like what if my life had music in the
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back sound a soundtrack to it so it would be that would be so sick if this could plug in your health data oh my God
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I think Nintendo you might be sitting I mean Nintendo is always sitting on a gold mine and not doing anything with it
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but well that's why they made this so okay to address so some people I posted about this some people were kind of
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upset that this exists some people think that now that Nintendo is putting out their own app with the official music
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they're going to use this as a a way to like copyright strike people who have uploaded Nintendo music on YouTube oh no
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which is how we've been listening to it forever yeah most people have been you know um I don't think they're going to
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go after like the remixes like people make KK Slider music of anything like
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there was a there was a Charlie XX brat KK Slider that was freaking amazing um I
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don't think they're going to do that but Nintendo are traditionally extremely hardcore about copyright so we'll see I
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don't think this necessarily like changes anything because they already owned the copyright of the music so yeah and people who are just uploading
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straight songs from Nintendo like you have to understand that some point that could be taken down yeah so can I just
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say that whoever is running Nintendo right now is doing an amazing job because it is the holiday season and
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they have released an alarm clock and a music streaming app yeah and it's amazing yeah I think this is kind of
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like what's really cool about this is like how Adam says he he uses it and have you ever heard how Marquez says
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like he doesn't do it as much now that we have so many people in the office but when he used to work he made sure the
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music that he was playing wasn't in English because he said like if it was in English you would be paying too much
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attention to the lyrics and it would take him away so we listen to a lot of like French music this is you know this
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is really good background ambient music that's not going to distract you but still keep you in like a not silent
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space and it's already included in your Nintendo membership like is it that's what I also want nintend online account
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um which I do because you need it to play like Brawl online or not brawl Jesus uh you need to play Super Smash
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Bros ultimate online so I have it and it's included in there it's just so interesting to me that I feel like they really know who their customers are I
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was going to say I think a lot of people who want this probably have that online subscription already um and then it's $4
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by itself outside of that or you're saying okay yeah well no sorry $4 is the Nintendo Online subscription and this is
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just included in that I thought you were saying to just get this $4 a month which I thought felt like a lot but yeah real
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quick what is everyone's favorite Nintendo soundtrack okay cuz clear Super
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Mario Galaxy yes excellent choice that is number two for me what come on man we
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Channel baby oh my god well okay that's iconic but that doesn't make it like the
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best that's the best there's a whole station for it on this app it's its own thing that's so funny oh my God yeah I
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feel embarrassed no I mean it's look it's iconic but I don't know if it's the Super Mario Galaxy music literally makes
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me want to cry it is really I'm not even joking like it's so good my yeah I was
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going to say for me it's Galaxy 2 cuz that score is amazing yeah no no not two
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Mario Galaxy 2 like two Mario Galaxy is my number two oh got it but I think it's sort of an even split for me between like the Wii system music cuz it's it is
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like unreal how good it is and then Wii system music Mario Galaxy and then I
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think Twilight Princess D Twilight Princess music is amazing believable score there's some pieces in that that
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are so creative and inventive oh my gosh in like 2012 for I don't know 2010 they
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they came out with a 25th anniversary uh orchestral soundtrack for Zelda music in
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general and uh I bought the CD that it came on and it was it's just incred you
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can listen to it online the duto valley like live Orchestral Version is just incredible Nintendo goes hard for
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orchestral music for their for their games and it's it's great wait Andrew what's your favorite so I grew up with a
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PlayStation but my friend had an N64 and like my favorite song or the most
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nostalgic song probably doesn't even count because it's from Golden ey so like it's probably just it's just a James Bond song I remember wav R having
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good music but like I couldn't specifically pull any of it you're not wrong I think as far as like sound
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design or music design or like creative audio branding goes the PlayStation is
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the king like like the first especially the first three Playstation system S I
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think one of the most genius creative decisions ever made by a human person is making the PS3 startup sound and
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Orchestra tuning there's like so much it makes you feel like oh my God like
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something complex and beautiful is coming to life in front of me and then you know you play Playstation
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but damn um PlayStation 2 I had as a kid that's the only that's the only Sony
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console I've ever owned was PlayStation 2 and that startup sound is freaking cool it's like yeah
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dude funny enough I went from a PlayStation to an Xbox and then totally ditch PlayStation after that but dang
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yeah dude it was yeah every time I booted that up as a kid I was like I'm living in a different Universe than
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everybody else seriously it was incredible one more feature on this app that is very interesting is they have a
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spoiler free toggle so love that the idea is that if you want to play a
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Nintendo like they have all these playlists right and Nintendo generates the playlist you can create playlist but if there's a
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game that you haven't played yet and you want to like experience the music as it happens which to me Nintendo music is
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like a huge part of the game I've been playing the new Zelda game uh echo of wisdom and every time like I I only play
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it while actually being able to listen to the music because it's such like a deep in my chest experience so basically
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there's this spoiler toggle where you're like I haven't played these games yet and I want to experience them while playing the games so it filters out the
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music from those do you select them or does it know it from your library you tell it okay yeah you tell it you just
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say I want to play these that's awesome it's cool it's like no no I totally get thoughtful feature music yeah there's a
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in RuneScape there's something called The Music Cape because like it's a skill
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Cape which are these things you unlock when you only reach the like highest level of a skill but new areas and new
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quests unlock different songs in RuneScape which RuneScape songs are awesome cuz one they're all copyright free and everybody can use them whenever
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and some of them just slap and but every time you unlock every song yeah you get
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a cape that has like a harp on it um and you unlock it called The Music Cape I
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think it's called that's awesome yeah damn we love old school room we love old school for we love old
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school I love that that became a meme all right I think that we're going to take it to trivia then we're going to talk about all the Apple announcements
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of this week so uh take it away what the f spooky trivia I knew it
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I knew you had done something special for me I always do something special all right spooky Halloween trivia let's get
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it so question one if my eyes ah the most
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polarizing and delicious Halloween candy candy corn so good was invented in the
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late 1880s and originally sold as the candy version of what common farm
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animals food that's right the original name for it was blank feed H I have an
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idea imagine a Troth full of candy corn I don't have to Baby I like
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cand I made that likes candy corn we all like candy way dude wax is delicious my
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ass I've never seen a four for four candy corn I don't know how you couldn't like did you all know that's what he was
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GNA say when he said the most polarizing candy what came into your head at first I thought to TOS thought Tootsie Roll
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polariz toots roll I think it's it's like the the I don't care that I'm
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passing candy out to these kids this year have some Tootsie Rolls especially the flavored Tootsie Rolls Andrew I'm
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just saying I don't dislike them but if I get like the white toots roll I'm like
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this person doesn't care about Halloween the white to roll and the blue rapper are you what I've never heard of that
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before there's a ton of your flavors guys this is this is a bad opinion I
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didn't say no no no no I did not say I dislike them I said they are a polarizing candy for clearly I hate them
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no I I think candy corn is the thing that people are either like I'm going to devour 10 lbs of this or they're going
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to be like uh that is foul um and there's very few in between um ordinary sausage did do a candy corn sausage yes
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shout out ordinary sausage one of the best small creators on YouTube he's at like 800,000 Subs
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small all right never mind okay anyway um I think we should take a break hit
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the commercial hit the commercial and we'll talk about apples Adam's hat kind of looks like a candy corn that's true
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see in a sec I can't believe how good that Cape [Music]
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swave for all right welcome back we uh Marquez was nice enough since he went to
00:24:59
a quick Apple briefing in La which is probably half the reason he's sick because he traveled way too much in the
00:25:05
last week but he went and got to see some of the new products we all got to see just the releases because it's they've been doing it throughout this
00:25:11
week Apple's been launching Mac products every day essentially this week um so we're going to talk about all of them
00:25:16
but first Marquez recorded like a 4minute little video about what he saw so we're going to watch it and then
00:25:21
we're David and I are just going to talk about it without Marquez afterwards so let's hit it let her rip all right
00:25:28
what's up P crew I hope you're doing great I hope you're doing great uh I know I'm out for the moment but I
00:25:34
couldn't help but weigh in on some of the the new announcements from Apple this week so uh instead of an event like
00:25:40
last year that that scary fast Mac event we had in October this time we had a
00:25:45
week of press releases so a string of press releases and also videos to go with them kind of feels like they cut up
00:25:54
what would have been an event into several days long of chatter online but basically now the
00:26:00
entire Mac lineup has got M4 updates so that's what we're here to talk about I have a couple reactions to them and I'll
00:26:06
leave you with these thoughts and maybe you'll have some stuff to add or some reactions or Devil's Advocate who knows but okay I wrote them down first thing
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oh Apple intelligence is like headlining all these updates which is interesting
00:26:19
to me maybe even a little bit misleading because it feels like I mean you can get apple Intelligence on any older not any
00:26:26
older but lots of older Mac but if you look at the headlines they're like apple intelligence is here but
00:26:32
that's not really coming with the M4 chip so that's kind of interesting that they're selling Apple intelligence so
00:26:38
hard anyway first Mac update that came was the iMac the new iMac is now updated with the M4 chip now 16 gigs of RAM or
00:26:45
memory base it's the exact same design and it has slightly slightly new colors just to be
00:26:53
able to say they changed the design so great still a rainbow of colors uh and there's also now a nanotexture option on
00:26:59
the display which I actually don't think most people getting an iMac are actually interested in I mean these are still
00:27:06
like the every person allinone put it in the kitchen the living room type of
00:27:12
computer like it's a it's a better computer but it's not really a gigantic update here then we got Mac Mini Mac
00:27:20
Mini was interesting to me because I think it's maybe now at the base price
00:27:26
the best deal in Apple's entire lineup products that's phones computers tablets
00:27:32
everything they make I think the the base Mac Mini for $599 with a 16 gigs of
00:27:38
memory is a really really good computer it's tiny now it's a 5 INX 5 in cube
00:27:46
hard to overstate how small that is it's it's closer and closer to the size of an Apple TV it's really incredibly small I
00:27:53
think that would only be possible with these new Chips um so it gets the for chip gets the extra memory and it loses
00:28:01
all the full-size usba a ports but has USBC on the front and a headphone jack
00:28:06
on the front now as well um every single price upgrade if you look on Apple's website for it is pretty expensive like
00:28:13
the second you get off of the base price you're you're overpaying for memory and storage and all that but the Bas Mac
00:28:19
Mini really interesting we'll be getting that to review pretty soon you also got then the one that I am
00:28:26
personally tempted by which is is the MacBook Pro so M4 M4 Pro M4 Max this is
00:28:32
the one I'm interested in because I have actually been holding out I'm doing air quotes cuz like I you know I edit maybe
00:28:38
three or four videos a year on the MacBook Pro but I've been using the M1 Max MacBook Pro and it's been great it's
00:28:45
been totally fine 16in maxed out has 64 gigs of memory but this new one makes
00:28:52
all the right updates and all the right places it's got now this new M4 Maxs
00:28:58
version which is allegedly two times faster than mine you know twice as fast graphics better neural engine up to 128
00:29:06
gigs max memory Thunderbolt 5 faster IO for the drives I use and of course the
00:29:12
space black so it's it's speaking to me I'm very interested in the new Macbook Pros all of this of course we're hoping
00:29:18
to get our hands on and review pretty soon but the last thought I really have is that uh maybe the most underrated
00:29:23
thing about this M4 Mac update is that every Mac now starts at 16 gigs of
00:29:30
unified memory it was all eight before and I know that's decent enough for most
00:29:36
people but I think starting at 16 which is probably because of Apple intelligence uh is actually going to
00:29:42
make a pretty big deal for a lot of people it makes a lot of the Bas price versions a much better deal so anyway
00:29:48
those are my initial thoughts just seeing all the new stuff I'm curious what you guys think and uh also send me
00:29:54
the tribute questions just send them to me okay I think I think that's all I had to say let's all right let's take no oh
00:30:01
no I have many things to talk about well first first thing I want to say which is just about the video eent is Marquez is
00:30:07
sick and still records a video with like a swooping intro on the camera and he doesn't miss he just classic it'sit now
00:30:15
pure YouTuber through and through when he answers a FaceTime call he does the same thing what's up oh sorry and then
00:30:22
he always hand over the camera um do you have any initial thoughts and I think we
00:30:29
can go through each one individually yes um many initial thoughts okay uh what's
00:30:35
your biggest ones and then we can maybe group the other ones when we're IND exciting announcements for me or or
00:30:41
specifically what Marquez said before we go into each individual thing just so we can keep somewhat of a um order here yes
00:30:48
um I think it made sense for them to make this a press release system because everything is basically based around the
00:30:55
chips and so it would be hard to do a whole event where they just talk about
00:31:00
the same chip but in like three different devices yeah and his point of it being what could have been an event
00:31:07
but just cut up the reason that would be hard is because they zoomed into the exact same little hot hole part of on
00:31:15
every single video I think so that would have been a little weird but I overall agree with what you both said and it
00:31:21
keeps the hype up all week for a number of products like each day people are talking about a different product from
00:31:26
Apple I think that's a good that was a good move by then um yeah so why don't we just go through all the different announcements and we can go through it
00:31:33
based on the day that they were announced sure cool so iMac was Monday MH uh un4 chip was the biggest update
00:31:41
people are talking about the colors which is kind of funny it at work it said all new colors
00:31:48
and one person was like the green is new and someone else was like the purple's new and then we were reading the press
00:31:53
release for so long trying to figure out which one was new until we found this like compar photo that basic apple guy
00:31:59
posted of like they all are new they're just except for the silver silver exactly it's the same
00:32:06
right I think it's the same all of them are but it's hard cuz are they all mute a little say they're more pastel yeah
00:32:14
they're more pastel than they were before I do really like the green the green is very cool I think that in a
00:32:20
elementary school it would look fire man this is like my old computer lab in
00:32:25
elementary school with all the G three yeah Mac j3s yeah we had those too
00:32:31
amazing okay so um obviously it got the M4 chip it is now standard with 16 GB of
00:32:36
memory configurable up to 32 GB um obviously Marquez talked about 16 gigs
00:32:42
of memory across the board being a big deal and they even start all the MacBook airs now at 16 gigs when you buy them
00:32:47
online for like the same price um the same same base price which is good
00:32:53
obviously apple is trying to push everything towards Apple intelligence and you need more memory for that yeah
00:32:58
they said specifically on this iMac it's the world's best all-in-one for AI and is built for Apple intelligence okay
00:33:05
we're going to hear a lot about that for the next year probably so I wrote down in here and maybe we can read through
00:33:11
them and but the press release and the like the video just had the most
00:33:18
interesting comparison performance comparisons I've seen and I just kind of quoted a bunch of them because some of
00:33:24
them are silly and it's it like shows us where we are performance wise but also just feels a little silly they did it so
00:33:31
I'll read some of them and you can react to what they are so the new iMac is up to 1.7 times faster than iMac with M1
00:33:36
yeah there was an M2 and an M3 iMac right there was an M3 there an M3 M2 but
00:33:42
the funny thing is that I mean not the fun it kind of makes sense for them to do this because you don't upgrade your
00:33:47
like home desktop computer that often especially like why would you upgrade from an M1 to an M4 agree but it is
00:33:54
still funny that they're not also they very well could have put 1.7 times faster than mac iMac with M1 and they
00:34:00
could have put like and still 20% faster than like iMac with M3 so we have an
00:34:06
idea between those but I also do agree marketing marketing marketing um iMac
00:34:11
with M4 handles more intense workloads like photo editing and gaming up to 2.1 times faster than iMac with they did
00:34:16
make a big deal about the gaming stuff um that's a big movement that's a big Market that they're trying to capture
00:34:23
they've been you know they now have the gaming adaptive like converter thing
00:34:29
that basically can like make your game Run well on metal MH and I think they're
00:34:35
trying to talk to a lot of Studios to get them to do it they talked a lot about this game control which they I saw
00:34:40
at the event had a bunch of um stations set up so you can play it so yeah cool
00:34:46
uh neural engine is three times faster than M1 iMac on M1 um there is up to 1.7
00:34:54
times faster performance in apps like Excel and 1.5 time faster browsing performance in Safari compared to iMac
00:35:00
with M1 what do either of those things mean tangibly the only thing I can think
00:35:06
of with Excel is have you seen the like Excel games like the pro Excel players
00:35:11
where they like they get a list of all these things like delete all the green columns and they do it like as fast as possible David Pierce uh did amazing
00:35:18
piece on the Excel World Championships yes he went to it did he really a video
00:35:24
or a a news it's just an article I need to read that awesome um Gamers can enjoy incredibly
00:35:31
smooth game pay with two times higher frame rates than iMac with M1 the theme Here is they're comparing to M1 um this
00:35:37
is my favorite compared to the most popular 24in all-in-one PC with latest
00:35:43
Intel Core 7 processor the new iMac is up to 4.5 times faster that's so
00:35:48
ambiguous it is wild the most popular 20 what are they referring to most popular
00:35:53
24in all-in-one PC with i7 they just say Intel core 7 in core 7 what they
00:36:00
obviously mean but what is the what is the most popular 24 who knows the most popular one could be the most popular
00:36:06
cuz it's cheap and has are not that many all-in-one Intel computers anymore no
00:36:13
like when I think of Allin ones I think do they even make the Microsoft Studio anymore the surface St they don't make
00:36:19
the newest they don't make the two well they they do still make it I think I think they still make it but it's
00:36:24
insanely outdated Dell makes Inspiron i7 and Lenovo makes a Idea Center i7 it
00:36:33
seems like HP also has an IP yeah which to me to me that says a b
00:36:39
a corporation bought 100,000 of that's what makes which is like the absolute baseball they haven't updated it in
00:36:46
years yeah um I just also thought this was funny because I think it was literally last episode some we were
00:36:52
talking about the Apple graphs and like how it Compares poorly to like random
00:36:57
and someone's like they never compared to Windows laptop or Windows computers it's only ever passed Mac things and then immediately here and they have in
00:37:05
the past I know they also do they do both but they always throw one shot of a completely unmarked graph compared to a
00:37:12
computer we have no idea what they're talking um and then compared to the most popular Intel based iMac model the new
00:37:18
iMac is up to six times faster I actually think that's a great quote because they're probably I think you
00:37:23
know how you said not a lot of people are updating from M3 to M4 but even as a desktop computer the M1 to M4 upgrade is
00:37:31
very quick I think most people using a desktop used that for probably closer to
00:37:37
10 years yeah um so comparing it to Intel Bas IMAX this is a wildly different and six times faster is is
00:37:44
awesome yeah that's a pretty big deal um they also added this nanotexture option
00:37:50
which they added across the line um we'll get to the MacBook PR later but it's $200 on the iMac and 150 on the
00:37:57
MacBook Pro which this all makes things very funny cuz the pro display xdr which by the way still needs an update it's
00:38:04
been it's very old now it's ,000 to add it on the pro is it really yes oh my
00:38:10
goodness so it's kind of funny that it's like okay well this isn't that much smaller and it's only 200
00:38:17
so yeah they're clearly overcharging for the pro display xdr I mean that that
00:38:22
display is so expensive and it's not even an OLED it's like still you know so
00:38:27
anyway it's perfect yeah um quick question do you have anything else about iMac uh basically just the
00:38:34
accessories oh we did kind of talk about the rumor that they're all moving to USBC yes we got confirmation that the
00:38:41
Magic Mouse is still on the bottom which I think we've gotten to a point now the port sorry the USBC Port still on the
00:38:46
bottom I think we've gotten to the point because Marquez tweeted about it that now people are like why are you still harping on it it's we like the Magic
00:38:53
Mouse now so maybe we like the Magic Mouse now me how far deep we are down
00:38:59
this rapit hole we've come full circle now that objectively bad design is like okay it's fine whatever I don't I don't
00:39:06
know it's funny it's a funny thing because you because you can't use your mouse when it's dead but like Ellis has
00:39:14
mentioned previously if you just wait five minutes It'll be charged for as long as you need to use your computer
00:39:20
and then just charge it over I just want to throw in there like how many Tech products could you say just wait 5
00:39:26
minutes and it'll work and you wouldn't be upset with that that's fair I think almost every tech product we're in a
00:39:31
point where 5 minutes is an excruciatingly long time um but I still
00:39:36
yeah so they so they updated the Magic Mouse and magic keyboard with USBC which is thank goodness because now I don't
00:39:42
have to borrow a USBC to lightning cable from atam every single time I need to charge my stuff but what about the magic
00:39:48
Trackpad did they update that did it not say anything about that
00:39:53
um oh they do have a USBC magic track pad okay good that's actually one that I do want cuz I don't use the mouse or
00:40:00
keyboard but I do use the trackpad and I have one lightning for that so they have
00:40:05
a ton of colors for the mouse and keyboard too to match the uh cool to match the Mac so it's pretty nice uh and
00:40:12
then I think they also you get four Thunderbolt four ports on the computer
00:40:18
okay was it two before and two Thunderbolt and two USBC do you remember
00:40:23
um I'll look it up why L is about to say something I just want to say two things uh one um random mid episode
00:40:33
trivia hello how long does it take to charge a magic mouse to have five hours five
00:40:41
hours five minutes of usable time or excuse me you know I'll give it the benef four hours how long does it take
00:40:47
to get 4 hours of Magic Mouse usage from Dead 3 minutes wrong 1 minute it takes
00:40:53
60 seconds yeah if you cannot what you're doing that means you get 2 hours
00:41:00
and 30 seconds the only people that are complaining about this I'm sorry I'm sorry if I offend you you're Gamers
00:41:06
you're Gamers and you know what and you know what you Gamers deal with you open your stupid Call of Duty and you see oh
00:41:13
oh God sound like a 70 gigabyte update sorry boys I'll see you tomorrow that's
00:41:19
fine but all of a sudden I got to wait one minute okay but Tim Cook does use a
00:41:25
Logitech MX master have a Logitech MX Master there are plenty of times once every two months sure where I come in in
00:41:31
the morning and it's dead and all I need to do is plug it in and I can keeping I could just go about my day I don't need
00:41:37
to wait 60 seconds I know but okay here's the thing I love the Logitech mxm I use it so often that is a poorly
00:41:45
designed product it's great but we no one ever I just want to say problem number one problem number one it's only
00:41:51
rated to a million clicks per button that is so much less than every you other their competitor number two we all
00:41:57
know the mxm is made of plastic that only lasts two weeks number three the terrible mxm customization software
00:42:05
doesn't allow or statements or excuse me or excuse me it
00:42:10
doesn't allow and statements so you can in the logic controls you can only set two macros to do the exact same thing
00:42:17
you can't set a a command to go and when that thing is designed terribly and no one is out here being like Oh the no so
00:42:25
everyone everyone can shut up okay quick fact check uh 10 million clicks 10
00:42:30
million clicks also yes but it is noticeably worse than most other mice I
00:42:36
think it's rated for 10 million clicks but I think Logitech has a notorious problem for turn mice getting double
00:42:42
clicking issues because I know on one of the uh G Pros that happened with it as well I just want to say if we were not
00:42:49
allowed to overreact about the most minuscule issues this podcast would not exist that is what this is for are we
00:42:58
totally understand 99% of the stuff that comes out of our mouth is super mundane
00:43:04
and I also want to say I do love the the magic mouse it's a great Mouse but okay
00:43:10
continue well you're an and Tim Tim Cook don't move that Port you're paying our
00:43:15
salaries man the magic yeah what else are we we're have to come up with a whole new bit yeah with that one it was
00:43:22
really about the design is it really 10 million did I read did I miss a zero
00:43:28
when I was reading the data sheet yesterday yeah cuz I was I was going deep into this um okay wait wait can I
00:43:34
ask one more question to finish iMac yeah what color iMac would you put in your kitchen if you had to pick at the
00:43:41
pictures again yeah I dude the new yellow is ugly the old the old yellow
00:43:47
was like a burnt orange and it was great well that's probably the problem with the yellow is that is better described as orange no I mean the old yellow was
00:43:55
orange yeah that's what I mean so yeah I mean in my kitchen you're not going to see the back of the computer it's got on
00:44:00
the front though the chin is the same color and the St um are similar I would say maybe the pink Pink's nice I think I
00:44:09
would mine would be yellow or green because my kitchen's either green paint or like tan cabinets yeah I do like
00:44:16
pretty much all the color swaps except for the yellow cuz I liked the burnt orange anyway uh yeah I'm very glad that
00:44:23
everything is now USBC does that make everything in emple lineup USBC now does that complete I'm sure there's something
00:44:31
I mean there's still the there's I think they still sell the airpods they still
00:44:36
sell them but I I know what you mean you're saying are all the updated things like no I'm just saying it's everything you Apple makes all USBC like everything
00:44:44
new that they make yeah oh airpods oh no airpods Pro have USB I mean airpods Max have USBC now even know that's all they
00:44:50
did to them does Apple TV remot have USBC no that is well I feel like they
00:44:56
actually don't good question anyway let's move on um even though this is the USBC
00:45:03
podcast let's talk about the Mac Mini Tuesday this was uh the biggest kind of
00:45:10
controversy on threads which I find really hilarious because it's not that big of a deal in my opin okay I think
00:45:16
our office is divided on this by are we really Jesus okay Mac Mini smaller than
00:45:22
before but also taller so that's kind of the weird thing it's sort of like they squeezed it really hard and all went
00:45:29
into the center and it's like Play-Doh you know it's like uh it's that such a great
00:45:34
description thank you that's how I was feeling about it it's 5 in by 5 in and it's 2 in tall uh it's pretty much the
00:45:41
size of like two magic mice like put right next to each other in in width wait can we talk about what we think of
00:45:47
the physical redesign of it the size yeah I feel like you said that's like the most controversial thing let's no
00:45:53
that's not the most controversal controversial thing is the the power button okay okay yeah sorry can we talk
00:45:58
about what we think of size that's what I mean I think we're divided on oh okay I see I am Team new design okay but your
00:46:07
team old design right I like that it's smaller in footprint
00:46:13
but I do like the flatter one better because it can act as a stand yeah I
00:46:19
think Ellis your team knew yeah I'm te new I think uh cutting out you know I used to look at the Old Mac Min and I
00:46:26
was like damn there's about about 600 cubic cenm that just don't don't need to be here they did for the for Intel chips
00:46:32
cuz they needed cool no it was a joke but no I do like uh I do really like the the new redesign I think like it looks
00:46:38
better on a desk mhm and it does look better right I agree I do think it looks
00:46:44
better I like the older one because it was more practical for me and I said this when we were talking about it in
00:46:50
the studio like my personal setup I like hiding things under other things and
00:46:55
because it was so low to the to the desk it was easier to like slip under something I think in like depending on
00:47:02
how you put this on your desk where the real estate is on your desk you will like it or dislike it because if you have a bunch of stuff and you don't care
00:47:09
about the height as much then this new one's obviously better but if you have a shelf like you have a grovemade shelf
00:47:15
right sliding it under that makes so much more sense or do people with Mac minis do they ever like attach them to
00:47:21
the bottom side of a desk I've seen some YouTube setups where they have like a little stand not a stand uh bracket type
00:47:27
of thing and they like mount it then the old one's way better for that because it's not taking up as much you need the real estate down there so you you're
00:47:34
losing less horizontal real estate more vertical real estate yeah exactly yeah I
00:47:39
mean I think it looks pretty nice it's uh fairly close to an Apple TV the Apple TV console is I think like 3 point I I
00:47:47
pulled it up here uh it is 3.66 in and by 1.2 whereas the Mac Mini is 5 in by 2
00:47:56
in okay so it's pry it's pretty close um yeah let's go through the specs of it
00:48:02
really quickly so obviously redesigned you have two USBC ports in the front but
00:48:08
they are limited to uh 10 gbit per second so they're not Thunderbolt I
00:48:13
believe yeah they're not Thunderbolt uh and then there's a headphone jack in the front you get ethernet HDMI the wall
00:48:21
socket port and then three USBC in the back and what's very interesting about this as well as the MacBook Pro that we
00:48:27
will talk about shortly is that the three USBC in the back are Thunderbolt 4 unless you get the M4 Pro in which case
00:48:34
they're Thunderbolt 5 and Thunderbolt 5 is very very new the spec only got released a year ago there's only a few
00:48:41
devices out right now that are Thunderbolt 5 um and I wrote down some things about Thunderbolt 5 that we can
00:48:46
talk about shortly default Ram is now 16 gigabytes just like every other Apple product here which is nice um starts at
00:48:54
$5.99 which I think like Marquez said in the video I think the base Mac Mini is
00:48:59
probably the best value computer right now but what's insane about that is that every other option that they sell is a
00:49:07
bad value so as you go through the purchasing page the default one has the
00:49:15
M4 chip with 10 core CPU 10 core GPU 16 core neural engine uh has all these you
00:49:21
know Thunderbolt 4 16 gigs of RAM but it only has 256 gigs of storage and then
00:49:28
that's $5.99 to go up to the next tier which the only thing that is different
00:49:34
is 52 gigs of storage so they just add 256 G of storage it's $200 extra so then
00:49:39
it's it's 800 bucks to get that and then what yeah I know it's $200 for less than
00:49:45
a terab for 256 gigs it's ridiculous and then if you move up to the next tier
00:49:52
which is $1,000 which is almost double the price you just get 24 gigs of RAM as
00:50:00
well as the so that's 512 and 24 G sorry um yeah as well as the 512 gabes of
00:50:06
storage so that's another $200 just to move up to 24 gigs of RAM from the 16
00:50:12
gigs of RAM which is crazy expensive like that's ridiculous I I was thinking like you should buy a baseline Mac Mini
00:50:19
you can literally I look this up you can buy a 2 terb external hard drive with Thunderbolt for like $60 and it's 2
00:50:28
terabytes but then you lose a thunderbolt bus yeah just put it in the back well there Thunderbolt four in the
00:50:35
back there is Quinn was saying I know but then you only have one Thunderbolt left on the whole computer no there's three Thunderbolt in the back oh are
00:50:41
they on separate buses or are they all in one bus cuz that that is like a huge
00:50:46
they're probably on separate buses I would guess cuz it can support three displays so oh yeah any anyway I mean
00:50:55
look I I just think it's crazy see how much they're charging for the additional ones and then M4 Pro is
00:51:03
$1,400 which yeah you're getting the 10 the 12 core CPU 16 core GPU uh you're
00:51:09
getting much more memory bandwidth 273 G gig gigabytes per second of memory bandwidth um you can configure it up to
00:51:17
a 20 core GPU and a 14 core CPU uh up to 64 GB of RAM and 8 terab of
00:51:23
storage but the benefit the big probably one of the big benefits of the M4 Pro
00:51:29
chip is that you get Thunderbolt 5 which is like a pretty big deal what is Thunderbolt yeah I was just going to say
00:51:34
can you explain this to me let's talk about Thunderbolt I don't get it okay so Thunderbolt 5 is quite a bit better than
00:51:41
Thunderbolt 4 the spec only dropped about a year ago and there's only a few devices that can do it right now Thunderbolt 5 can do up to 120 gbits per
00:51:49
second of bandwidth whereas Thunderbolt 4 can only do 40 gbits per second so it's a pretty big difference the actual
00:51:57
rated spec is 80 gbits per second but it can reach 120 if it sacrifices receiving
00:52:02
speed okay so it's only like it's only going to do 80 if you're pulling and you're also pushing data but if you're
00:52:09
just pulling data it can do 120 gbits per second which is really crazy it can
00:52:14
do three 4K displays at 144 Hertz or up
00:52:19
to a 540 HZ display or two 8K displays
00:52:25
wow which is pretty pretty nuts yeah um yes Thunderbolt 5 also UPS the power
00:52:31
delivery so Thunderbolt 4 could do up to 140 watts of power but Thunderbolt 5
00:52:37
they have to deliver at least 140 watts of power and they can go up to 240 watts
00:52:42
of power so there are Thunderbolt 5 Docks that are dropping on the market right now that are just finally starting
00:52:48
to come out this can be very beneficial if you're pushing around a lot of data really quickly if you know that you want
00:52:54
to jump on to Thunderbolt 5 ssds external ssds the thing is uh you got to
00:53:01
pay 1,400 bucks to get that so it kind of depends what you're looking for
00:53:08
C God that is so much money there's you know when I first read all this I was super excited because if there's a lot
00:53:13
of like small business and media like live media there's a lot of applications where you need a lot of displays and
00:53:19
that's always been something that Mac is less good at than PCS because with a PC you can just put in more pcie cards and
00:53:26
just get more display controllers so I was really stoked to be like oh my God like if you own a barber
00:53:32
shop I don't know and youve got four displays that you want custom stuff on like now you could do that with one port
00:53:38
but man dude ,400 yeah $1,400 it's crazy because I again think the $600 Mac Mini is like
00:53:45
the best value computer out right now yeah because the M the regular M4 will do basically anything anyone wants can I
00:53:52
can I ask a a a newbie question someone who's never owned a Mac Mini before I've also never own I don't know if
00:53:59
anyone in here own you can ask it anyway you have we've used them at work very
00:54:04
does the power cable uh is it just like an Edison C or just a cable that goes
00:54:10
from the computer straight into the wall so the power supply is inside that
00:54:15
little chassis I'm assuming so there is no power there's no power briak okay wacky
00:54:23
that's crazy that's crazy they fit that in there yeah pretty wild uh okay now we
00:54:29
got to get to the most controversial part of this computer which is that they put the power button on the
00:54:35
bottom guys it doesn't matter I don't think this matters I
00:54:40
think it matters on front bottom or back bottom back bottom back bottom there's a
00:54:46
graphic of someone just like kind of reaching around it you can you can fit your finger underneath I think the problem with it at first I was like this
00:54:53
isn't an issue but being on the back Mac minis are so good because of the
00:54:58
stuff you can like put around them like shelves or you can like slide them inside of shelves very easily and if
00:55:03
you're all plugged in tight and cable managed in the back and you can't reach through a shelf to get to that and you
00:55:10
can't pull it out now because it's managed so well then what do you have like a little poker or something but the
00:55:17
Mac Mini the old Mac Mini still had the power button on the back of it so it was still hard to read yeah Fair yeah why
00:55:23
did they I just always thought the buttons looked nice on the Mac minis despite them being on the face of it cuz
00:55:30
they were like etched in almost and like super flush with it and it just worked really well yeah um yeah I guess it was
00:55:36
on the back people have been yelling about this I don't know personally I'm like I don't ever turn off my computer
00:55:43
unless it freezes or glitches in a weird way I think you should turn your computer off more often really but yeah
00:55:50
why I think it's I don't know the exacts of it but I'm pretty sure it's like good
00:55:56
practice to fully turn a computer on sometimes every once in a while but the
00:56:01
thing is that's a that's a really complicated myth that has way too many asterisks to give a simple that's sort
00:56:08
of what I feel podcast for examp for example if you're on a so like on a Windows PC if you hit restart and
00:56:17
restart your computer it will clear all of the system States and you will get like Clean Cash like that is good if you
00:56:25
hit shut down or press the power button on a Windows PC it will save the system
00:56:31
States for a quicker reboot the next time so actually the difference on a PC between shutting down your PC and
00:56:37
sleeping your PC is the pretty much the exact same it does negligible to your
00:56:43
what like making your computer run faster clearing anything you have to do a full restart on a Mac it's like a
00:56:48
little bit more complicated but I do know Apple Computers hate it when you
00:56:54
shut them down with the power button like like they run so many more processes and they clean up so much
00:57:00
faster when you do restart from the apple drop down menu so I think really yeah I think then putting the power
00:57:05
button in the back was them being like yo don't touch that yeah I mean the only
00:57:11
time that you actually need to do it is if you have to force shut it off yeah I don't I just want to be clear I'm not
00:57:16
saying turn things off by holding the power button at okay I've just on most
00:57:22
like because users prioritize a fast load time now I need to research if it's
00:57:28
true on Mac 2 but I know on most computers if you shut down a computer it won't clear the cache it won't clear the
00:57:33
ram it is effectively the same as sleeping it if you restart a Compu different things restart and shut down
00:57:41
yes and restart is the one that makes you that you would think shutdown does
00:57:46
they don't just do the same thing no ese on Windows you can go into the settings and tell it to turn off the like I think
00:57:53
the settings called like quick boot or something like that um but yeah no restarting is definitely
00:58:00
better than shutting down I often have to restart my computer before I play DotA um I'm not sure why but if I like
00:58:07
launch DOTA after I've been using my computer for a while or and there's a bunch of applications open and stuff it
00:58:13
just like won't load in the mouse texture it won't load in a lot of random stuff but if I restart it everything's
00:58:19
fine um soes yeah it's weird I do that but I also play DotA on my MacBook Pro
00:58:25
try which a lot of people don't hitting instead of restart shut down and then booting your computer up and see if it
00:58:31
works I mean the restart works fine I know no no but then call me so I know I'm more I'm more curious if it doesn't work oh got it got it listener at home
00:58:39
if you're having an issue call Ellis for all of your it needs no no no no yeah but I don't I mean personally I'm like
00:58:45
this is a home computer similar to the iMac that you're you never really need to turn off I saw
00:58:51
a lot of people talking about like oh I turn off my computer every day and I was like whoa that's wild I didn't know
00:58:57
people still did that but you know if you can do you and I will not shame you
00:59:02
for it however um you don't really need to do that most of the time I think it's
00:59:07
more so like the situation that Andrew was saying I agree with that like if you have to like force shut down your
00:59:13
computer now the you just can't reach if you built it around something that makes it hard to reach the Buton I understand
00:59:19
that but I also totally agree that it's so minimal and those situations you probably could just like undo a cable
00:59:25
tie and pull out a little bit press it and right totally Andrew what are you doing we need to yell about something
00:59:31
listen now I'm worried we're going to get yelled at for yelling about things no come on that happens every week people happens every what are you
00:59:37
talking about uh yeah so again probably the best value computer you can buy
00:59:42
right now in the standard in the cheapest form and a very expensive it
00:59:47
makes me really mad that they have different Thunderbolts based on which spec you get I just really hate when
00:59:54
Apple does this like yeah I I get like yeah pay more to get a storage upgrade
00:59:59
pay more to get this upgrade but don't like lock something behind cuz they've done this in the past with uh wasn't it
01:00:06
like storage speeds were different based on what spec you got of a MacBook Pro uh
01:00:13
or was it a MacBook Air I don't remember it was something where like if you didn't get the higher storage you didn't
01:00:18
get oh right yeah because they cuz they used a single nand chip instead of two
01:00:24
and when you have two chips can read and write in parallel so they're faster yeah also something I don't like about all of
01:00:31
the MacBook the Mac minis here is that USBC on the front the two ports on the front are limited to USB 3 speeds which
01:00:40
sucks because if you're like a Creator and you're like passing off a lot of storage if you want to get the fastest
01:00:46
read and write speeds you have to hook it up in the back and if you're someone that you know build stuff around it and
01:00:52
it's hard to reach the back why do you need to that's annoying put anything on an SSD when you can just air drop it o
01:01:00
you love airdropping terabytes of footage as someone who when I went to glacer National Park Took a ton of
01:01:06
prores raw prores log footage by accident I no on purpose okay I have no
01:01:12
idea how to get this footage on my computer I've tried airdropping it I've
01:01:18
tried connecting my phone directly to my computer we tried buring Tri but in the
01:01:23
end I decided to just throw it all away no I still have it and I'm I still want
01:01:28
to edit it I just don't know how to get it on my freaking computer wait which iPhone do you have uh 16 Pro Max so you
01:01:34
can plug a hard drive directly into your phone um yes but yes I tried yeah I
01:01:41
don't know I haven't done that yet I'll do know it's just annoying because like why can't I plug it I plugged my computer directly into it and it still
01:01:47
didn't really want to work you're being too needy oh my God is that yeah yeah okay just look yeah they should put
01:01:53
Thunderbolt ports on the front because that's the area that you're going to want to connect a thunder pool at least one cuz that's where you're going to
01:02:00
want to connect your ssds to yeah I agree um okay MacBook Pros uh there is a
01:02:07
a baseline M4 MacBook Pro just like there was previously they also added an additional USBC Thunderbolt port to the
01:02:15
right side of it whoa so the cheapest one didn't have as many Thunderbolt ports but uh USBC ports but now this one
01:02:21
does which is awesome very cool uh they now rolled out the space black color to
01:02:27
all the models of the MacBook Pro they only had it on I believe the 16 or the M3 Pro and Max MacBook Pros
01:02:35
previously uh now also the 16 G 16 inch now starts at 24 gigs of RAM for the
01:02:42
same old price which is very cool MH although the 14 still starts at 16 gbes not really sure why the M4 Pro and M4
01:02:50
Max computers now come with all Thunderbolt 5 ports which is awes awesome it's awesome but again not in
01:02:58
the 14 inch uh which I guess is like this is the different no the 14inch has it has Thunderbolt 5 yeah I think so let
01:03:05
me double check this is Thunderbolt they added a thunderbolt four port on the right side on the cheapest on the
01:03:11
cheapest one the regular M regular right yeah M4 Pro and M4 Max but that still
01:03:17
means the regular M4 doesn't have thund B 5 so it's the same thing they did with the okay right but I think it's because
01:03:23
the they the chip probably can't support okay yeah because they made the M4 chip a long time ago and I just want to say
01:03:29
like it's interesting that Apple's supporting a new spec so early they do
01:03:34
that occasionally like they supported USBC very early but uh yeah it's it's
01:03:40
cool seeing them support Thunderbolt 5 so early because there's like One external hard drive out right now that supports Thunderbolt 5 so very cool and
01:03:47
I like that all the ports on the M4 Pro and M4 Max or Thunderbolt 5 I think that's really cool they have new 12
01:03:53
megapixel webcams that can now do Center stage and desk view do you think they're any good though um they're probably as
01:04:00
good as the one on this one which is I mean at least it's 1080p right I mean
01:04:05
remember when all the all the MacBook webcams were 720 yeah so I think it's
01:04:10
cool that pretty much all the cameras on all of the Mac products now can like do
01:04:16
Center Stage I think it's cool and also has that desk View mode where it basically skews and uh you can see
01:04:22
directly in front of you looks down like a top Town yeah which is interesting cuz cuz there's going to be a lot of keyboard but we'll see how wide that
01:04:29
that can actually get uh you can also now get the Nano texture display on the MacBook Pros for $150 I think the
01:04:36
chances that people buy the N texture on the MacBook Pros is much higher than they them buying it on the iMac totally
01:04:42
agree uh because creatives are probably going to want that it's anti- glare you know that kind of thing I mean anti-
01:04:47
glare on a portable computer P makes a lot of sense it's pretty cool yeah yeah pretty cool um they said 2x faster R
01:04:54
tracing engine and neural engine and faster GPU cores uh yeah I think oh also they now
01:05:02
have the new longest battery life on any Mac that isn't plugged into the wall and
01:05:07
they're quoting 24 hours of battery life on the regular 14-in m4 model as well as
01:05:13
the 16-in MacBook Pro did they say 24 hours or did they say one day 24 hours
01:05:19
that's different yeah all day battery life yeah yeah have to say more than all
01:05:24
day I feel like hours battery life is significantly different than what I assume all day battery life means I mean
01:05:31
this is probably video playback right yeah which is like the easiest thing to do now because we true but still which
01:05:36
also makes now every time they say all day the fact that they are aware of the
01:05:42
fact that they say all day and 24 hours those are not the same right right but
01:05:47
yeah this is a much bigger update than the M2 to M3 ma uh Pro and Max MacBook
01:05:52
Pros because you're now getting that bumped up RAM on the 16in you're getting the option for the nanotexture display
01:05:59
you're getting Thunderbolt 5 all around it you're getting the extra port and you're getting center stage and desk
01:06:05
view so just like Marquez mentioned I I still don't think anyone needs to update
01:06:11
from an M1 Pro or M1 Max MacBook Pro because the design is pretty much
01:06:17
exactly the same and unless you need raate tracing it's 2x faster raate tracing yes uh no there's no raate
01:06:22
tracing on the M1 oh on the M1 yeah or M2 right right yeah but you don't need rate tracing well well if you needed
01:06:29
rate tracing you shouldn't have bought them well yeah yeah like if you're like a blender artist yeah you know what I mean like yeah um yeah I have I have one
01:06:37
thing to say about it okay cool which is I feel seen because on Apple's like
01:06:44
website page for the new Macbook Pro one of the application examples is my
01:06:49
favorite software derivatives touch designer baby it's in there representation
01:06:56
I was actually thinking it kind of felt like apple made all the examples yes our
01:07:02
studio there's the teenage engineering one there's one that's Adam's exact setup my same headphones my same little
01:07:09
sampler machine teenage engineering yeah and then touch designer for Ellis touch designer for Ellis there was there was
01:07:15
one that was Brandon's setup where it had like a notebook with like specifically drawn out scenes beautiful
01:07:21
sketches and everything yeah it was for the I believe the programmer or the coder examp example in their uh was like
01:07:26
a game designer I think but yeah it looks like Brandon's notebook and then there was a gamer one which is like you
01:07:33
know Alex or or Me Maybe I don't know they had a or no one cuz it's a Mac with a Corsair keyboard and I've never seen
01:07:40
that happen in my life that that was funny did you guys see the dis golf
01:07:46
one crazy they had like this dis golf Taco Bell Axel example
01:07:52
AEL yeah um yeah so that's pretty much it but I think it was
01:07:58
a good idea for them to kind of spread it over the week and I think that these are good computers I think like the way
01:08:05
we kind of rolled through this is the perfect example of why it should have been spread out through the week because each new release was basically 50% of
01:08:12
the release was the exact same thing which is them for chip I kind of like this I wish more companies would do that
01:08:18
just have like a whole week of announcements like going back to like the Nintendo thing they've just had like
01:08:23
three or four weeks of straight bangers every week week just dropping something new and it's just fun I like it I wish people would do this more instead of
01:08:29
like one event one day it's fun for like online discourse as well because then we can all talk about one product for a day
01:08:36
rather than like an event happens and people are complaining about this one thing and people are talking about the
01:08:42
other thing it's like it's hard to keep track of all of that where you can kind of see how people are reacting to a
01:08:47
singular product for 24 hours totally for all day battery life and it's good for them too yeah for all day battery
01:08:52
life uh okay so we're going to get all these devices in very soon so I'm sure we're going to drop some reviews on the
01:08:58
main Channel but until then let's kick it to trivia
01:09:03
baby trivia dude Halloween edition for some reason uh after
01:09:10
updating to sequa uh the roadter and my computer are just like Nots delay oh
01:09:16
well the lights just like don't even work anymore my computer actually doesn't even see the roadter anymore so
01:09:22
we'll get to the bottom of that it's a ghost roadter a ghost spooky anyway here's Adam so we've been
01:09:29
speaking about Nintendo a lot this episode and it is also Halloween today the day of recording let's
01:09:36
go it is I just came to work
01:09:41
like Anyway there are a lot of enemy characters in the Mario series like
01:09:46
Koopa Troopa that's right Goomba mhm and of course everyone's favorite boo piranha plus plant piranha
01:09:53
plant piranha plant piranha plant plus pro Max Ultra Ultra but there is also a
01:10:02
ghost enemy what is that Ghost full name I
01:10:07
want the full name oh it's easy board Q kazoo that was his father correct yeah
01:10:15
that's Mr board to you did no one get that reference here no so there's a full name for boo yep a full name the full
01:10:23
government what's on his photo ID does his royal title have to be included in his full name okay that's important
01:10:30
oh King buo Dr Buu Dr Professor Mario Buu the
01:10:37
second we'll be
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Places welcome back for those of you out there that want to be the very best that no one ever was uh Nintendo has
01:13:03
something very special for you this week they announced Pokemon Trading Card Game Pocket Edition play the music
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Adam there we go okay just want to know when I was in high school I freaking
01:13:15
loved Pokemon Trading Card Game online so I'm very excited to get into this I made an account but I have not yet had a
01:13:22
lot of time to play it so I'm going to throw it over to Adam because he has had had more time to play it and I think he can explain it a little bit better yeah
01:13:27
so this game just dropped it's a mobile app on Apple and on Android Android uh
01:13:34
app Source thank you um basically it is a card collecting game so you can battle
01:13:40
other people so like you could share your friend ID and everything and like I could battle David eventually I have a
01:13:46
couple friends from the interwebs that have added me already so once I unlock it because you unlock that at level
01:13:52
three you are able to battle other players which is cool but the main point of this game to me at least is just like
01:13:58
the beautiful Aesthetics and the card collecting feature of this it's like every 12 hours you get a booster pack so
01:14:04
you could just unwrap it and the way you unwrap it is really cool it's like the booster pack pops up on the screen and
01:14:10
there's like a highlighted part of the top of the pack that you have to swipe your finger across to like rip it open
01:14:15
tear it open it is a really cool animation it's so cool and then it shows like each card one by one and then the last card is a special card and there's
01:14:22
different like probabilities that you'll get a rare card and all this stuff and like I think the Aesthetics of this game
01:14:29
are just like so pretty incred they like they take everything that everyone has learned in mobile app development for
01:14:36
the last decade and just threw it out the window and did Nintendo yeah and it's so awesome it's so cool it sounds
01:14:42
like I mean like opening packs like all sorts of different trading cards is still like such a big thing you same
01:14:49
like brain like feeling that you get when you're actually opening a real pack but it's free it's just like it's it's a
01:14:56
Goa game so it's free but you can buy more packs and there are there's a premium tier I think like a subscription
01:15:02
you could do if you want that you'll get two booster packs per day because basically you get a free booster pack every 12 hours so that's automatically
01:15:09
yeah automatically so that's kind of what I've been doing I've just been waiting 12 hours then you unwrap the next one wait Auto sorry I'm just
01:15:15
confirming automatically means even if you're but like you're not even in the app at all like you don't have to log on
01:15:20
to the app after 12 hours and claim it so if you go to sleep for 24 hours you wake you'll if you don't open it for 24
01:15:28
hours MacBook Pro for 24 hours and then it dies oh I don't know I've been
01:15:34
unwrapping it every 12 hours so I don't know if I don't do it for 24 hours if it'll if you'll just have two if have
01:15:39
two yeah I doubt it so you do have to claim them I would imagine well I was going say the difference between that is
01:15:45
actually being able to log in at the 12h hour exact times but then it starts turning into like you you're not really
01:15:52
getting two a day because now you've like missed a 4-Hour period like one a day but then like I could just not log in for a week and then
01:15:58
unwrap like 50 yeah that sounds awesome that math checks out don't check it so a very cool thing about this game
01:16:04
is that they have all of these really awesome effects so rare cards have this
01:16:09
incredible Parallax effect and they kind of shine and have these Sparkles and it's like it's so good it's so well done
01:16:16
it's like it's it doesn't just look like oh there's 2D Sparkles it really feels like immersive in it's like the same kind of like excitement when you would
01:16:22
like open up a holographic card they really thought about that and then they're also these really cool immersive
01:16:28
cards which I have not gotten yet oh Well when you get one it basically like zooms into the card and it shows this
01:16:34
whole world that's developed in the exact same art style yeah it's so nice yeah and I think they did a good job of
01:16:39
like the roll out at least in my opinion because like you open up the app and you're going through like tutorial hell
01:16:44
basically for the first like 10 minutes but they give you so many packs so you're just like getting hooked oh when you start yeah when you first start and
01:16:51
I'm pretty sure that yesterday at the time of listening for people that are listening to this um I'm pretty sure
01:16:57
yesterday they did a special like everyone that I've seen that's unwrapped cards today has gotten a special card oh
01:17:04
so like I got like a Shiny Snorlax thing holographic yeah or oh wait was color
01:17:10
was it Shiny Snorlax or holographic oh that's a good Shin no yeah it was a regular uh Snorlax but I don't think it
01:17:16
was holographic it was just like a special card like a GX or a special illustration or DX or
01:17:23
whatever no it was so in all of those I might be wrong here but from what I
01:17:29
understand about most trading cards is essentially a specific spot in each booster pack is like dedicated as like
01:17:34
the rare or uncommon card which doesn't always mean it's a holographic it just means that in general every pack gets
01:17:40
one card that's more rare than the uncommon so yeah you're either getting like an uncommon or a rare but then like
01:17:46
inside of those rares there are different levels of Rarity so like the Charizard that everyone wants is like
01:17:53
the most rare that's what I was just going to say Rich got that this got Charizard got a Charizard he already got
01:17:58
a Charizard someone else got a Mewtwo online so you got Mar marow no I got a Snorlax Snorlax yeah didn't you do a a
01:18:06
story and you got I didn't Mar Hawk that was the first that was the first Marowak
01:18:11
is that Marowak Marowak the first pack I did yeah that was it I didn't un I didn't do anything I set up my account
01:18:18
and I haven't unboxed any packs and that was it yeah I need to do that I'm very excited uh yeah I mean Nintendo's on
01:18:25
fire this week they're on fire that's what I'm saying I'm very excited for this game a lot of people are going to spend a lot of money on this game it
01:18:32
very fun C you is there a trading Market I doubt it question doubt it I feel like
01:18:38
it's going to feel weird if I feel like there should be a trading Market but I hope there's no monetary trading Market
01:18:44
which means if there's any trading Market they'll turn into one anyways I don't think they would do that cuz it's
01:18:50
just gambling at that point yeah that's the problem cuz like I'm pretty sure in counter- strike with
01:18:55
skins it didn't cost money in the game but then the third party markets online
01:19:00
would set up transaction tring is coming soon is what it says in the app but can you sell probably not probably not
01:19:08
probably probably not in that but there will be a way to figure that out Pokemon oh true Pokemon go lottery.com figure
01:19:15
yeah um what's his faces coming back yeah yeah this whole this whole app is awesome dear listeners let us know what
01:19:21
special edition Pokemon you got in your first day of playing this game and uh that's about it so let's take it
01:19:27
to trivia baby can I have a spooky whiteboard I'll give you a a ghost board
01:19:33
the glass breaking confuses me every time I have a marker no that's not that
01:19:39
I just break glass every time oh oh under the table mhm over the table wow
01:19:45
over the garden table nice I don't get it nice question number one the most
01:19:50
polarizing and delicious Halloween candy candy corn was invented in the 1880s and
01:19:56
originally sold as the candy version of what common farm animals feed I'm
01:20:01
looking for what farm animal what was it called without the name of the farm animal like blank feed blank feed cat
01:20:10
man I wish my lighting duplex I spent so much time on is
01:20:15
working Google Lens Google lens is gone no I'm kidding
01:20:20
oh YouTube no I'm kidding don't do it upload
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date view count view [Music]
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counts all right I KN I knew that's what you were going to say cuz that's what I wanted to say so I just decided to pick
01:20:40
something else no I just picked so we didn't both have the same thing I said cow no I said Pig Noe chicken chicken
01:20:49
chicken it's called chicken feed uh that makes sense duh yeah
01:20:55
idiot wonder what Marquez will put I bet Marquez puts Pig blank feed and it was
01:21:01
supposed to be the food of an animal oh interesting yes and I'm looking for the animal and it is candy corn as we know
01:21:06
it today huh what animals eat a lot of corn
01:21:12
ah I'm thinking about horses I'm thinking about
01:21:19
pigs uh Pink feed horse I go I'll go I'll go
01:21:26
hog feed I'll go hog you know what's crazy is that's actually what Andrew said you would say um but unfortunately
01:21:33
it is chickens it was called chicken feed question number two okay also quick
01:21:38
update on the score Marquez with 22 because dear listener when he got back from California me and Andrew Sat by his
01:21:45
desk and timed him 30 seconds a question and asked him the trivia questions from last week he got two out of three
01:21:50
correct so he's got 22 wow so we spoke about Nintendo this week but it is also Halloween so
01:21:58
the ghost in the Mario games what is its full
01:22:05
name David because you said it and I had to Pivot really quickly during The
01:22:12
Question it was just going to be boo but he made it hard no way really yeah but then you were like I definitely would have gotten that one I have no idea what
01:22:18
this is
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almost
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time flip them and read what do we got I wrote boo
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T no but I love it I put boo Das boo no wow thanks wow I definitely don't know
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this one I was GNA I was wondering if you would ask me the name of the ghost uh which I knew was bu I do not know his
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full name so I'm gonna have to make something up this was one of those weeks where that
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was the original question and then David said boo at some point in the episode and it was like oh okay well we can't we
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got to make it harder dang okay well I mean I'll make I I let's see his name is
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King buo you said so his government name if it was
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King Arthur it would be like Arthur something so his name is probably bufer uh brown bufer brown I
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that's awesome uh no the correct answer is buo didley BU didley a reference to b
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d the Rockstar who's that he's like one of the most important figures in early American Music like inspired Elvis uh
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and stuff like that who's that all right well thanks was there a
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bonus question in there or did we already get it wrong was last week that was last week I swear you just threw a bonus triv I did like a episode question
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about no David i d i wasn't a real trivia question it was just me proving
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that you can literally plug and unplug the Magic Mouse in like 10 seconds and get it back I forgot about that part cuz
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it was misinformation do you want to do a bonus trivia question that's our episode thanks for joining us on this episode of The Wave War podcast uh
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spooky Halloween edition we're your hosts I'm David and I'm Andrew and Marquez is still a skeleton and even
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though it's Halloween here some people celebrate Diwali and others celebrate deos moros so thank you for listening
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and enjoy the holiday oh comment your favorite costume um o that's a good one
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and why it's me and why it's Adam yeah and uh Ellis one's most painful costume
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that's true that's true bring us out uh yeah thanks all for listening waveform
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