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Galaxy S23 Lineup and the New HomePod

February 03, 2023 / 01:17:28

This episode covers the HomePod 2, Samsung Galaxy S23 series, and a game called "over or under hyped". Hosts Marquez, Andrew, and David discuss the features and market performance of the HomePod 2 and the Galaxy S23 lineup.

The HomePod 2 is reviewed, highlighting its price drop to $300, new color options, and design changes. The hosts question Apple's decision to reintroduce the HomePod after discontinuing the original, noting that it has fewer tweeters and microphones compared to its predecessor.

Next, the Samsung Galaxy S23 series is discussed, including the S23, S23+, and S23 Ultra. The hosts mention improvements such as better cameras and battery life, but conclude that these updates are minor and not compelling enough for current S21 or S22 users to upgrade.

In a segment called "over or under hyped," the hosts evaluate various tech topics, including Johnny Ive, foldable pixel phones, standing desks, and air tags, providing their opinions on whether they are overhyped, underhyped, or perfectly hyped.

The episode concludes with trivia questions related to the HomePod Mini and QLED displays, reinforcing the technical knowledge shared throughout the discussion.

TL;DR

The episode reviews HomePod 2 and Samsung Galaxy S23 series, discussing their features and market performance, plus a game on tech hype levels.

Episode

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foreign [Music] people of the internet welcome back to
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another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David this week we have a couple
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new pieces of tech I'm gonna call it the battle of the smallest Hardware updates
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we have the homepod 2. and we have the Samsung Galaxy s23 series uh we also
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have a little some maybe quick lightning round stuff but also then Adam has a game for us called over or under hyped I
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think that's the title seems pretty working title we'll stick with that for now uh but first let's
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let's get into the gadgets because we do have some new reviews and we have some new pieces of Hardware that we've
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evaluated and to talk about I think we'll we'll start with the homepod too because that feels like the easiest uh
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potentially quickest we'll find out we'll see I mean there are some feelings about homepod 2 that we might have to address but the homepod second
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generation is out um and I called it sort of a the most confusing product just because the first
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homepod comes out back in 2018 I think it was uh 350
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dollar smart speaker feat of engineering sounds wonderful just does Siri things
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um they dropped the price after after a while it's not selling very well and then they eventually discontinue it the
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mini 99 bucks lives on it's much more reasonable for most people so they bring
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this homepod 2 back and there are some small changes um but I'm just wondering why because
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I mean why why discontinue a product and then bring it back that that's my main thesis behind it because it's so similar
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I'll go over the actual official differences if anyone's interested number one slightly new color midnight
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for the darker one uh the light color is still the same two the top display is now larger and
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it's inset a little bit so there's that cool uh the cable is now
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removable so remember how the the first homepod had a non-removable cable and that was kind of weird now that's like
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designed to be removed it actually comes in the Box detached so you plug it in yourself if you need in a pinch you can
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use any other just cable that just plugs in so if your cable breaks you can go get the cable replaced but still have a
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working home pod in the meantime kind of cool uh it has two less tweeters two less
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microphones and it's still kinda stains wooden tables just not as fast
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and it was only the uh White Version right the only that's the only one I've gotten to actually stay in the table so
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the old homepod had this base where it's like if you have the right material wood which is like I guess a porous wood
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that's not sealed very well and you put an old homepod on it within two minutes it's crazy you have a solid white ring
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on the table which is like this happens with this material um but because of the design it's like
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all the weight was around that ring so Apple redesigns it a little bit it's a flat bottom now which is maybe a little
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bit worse acoustically or maybe it vibrates a little bit more but now you've at least spread out the weight across the bottom but it's the same
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material and so after a day or two it will also start to stain unfortunately
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which sounds longer but in the like life expectancy and placement of a homepod
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two days is very short so like a homepod will probably stay somewhere for
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I mean months if not years at it yeah you just sort of put it down I haven't moved my Home Smart speaker in over a
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year yeah so those are all the sort of newest things I mean there are a bunch of other smaller features we talked
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about matter support last time it has a thread radio in the new home pod so it can be your Hub it does have a
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temperature and humidity sensor um some observations around some of the
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other reviews point to it maybe not being the most accurate in the world but at least you can calibrate to how inaccurate it is like
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it might be a little warmer than your room typically is but that's fine um it's the new homepod any thoughts on
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like why it's back I I kind of had some YouTube comments that brought some things that I didn't find oh
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um the number one I'll just say the number one that I found the most compelling is that the original homepod
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came out during the chip shortage this new homepod has less overall raw
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materials so it's it's obviously not during a chip shortage the same way it was a couple years ago and it's also
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less tweeters and less microphones and because it's now at 300 instead of 350.
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it's potentially a little bit easier to manufacture and make profits because of
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the less raw materials and so they're just trying again it's not gonna pop off
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it's almost the same product as the one they discontinued for not being a reasonable thing to keep producing but
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it's another truck that's the main thing that I saw too in terms of comments was trip shortage stuff yeah yeah I think
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that Apple thought that the market was just not mature enough when they first released it like I think that that's
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their excuse I don't know if that's I don't think that's gonna work for them um most people buy the smaller smart
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speakers slash hubs you know the Google Nest Hub Max like barely sold any units
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and the larger Echoes I think sell better but still not fairly as well it's
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always like Google Nest sub mini Echo dot uh what is the apple one called
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again homepod mini yeah yeah like those sell like crazy um and a 300 one especially when there's
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no Spotify support on it which as we learned um is not technically Apple's
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fault anymore because they took the pr out and like allowed Spotify to get on
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it but Spotify is like boycotting them so they're not going to do it but I mean we we just saw it headline a couple days
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ago that Spotify had its like it has its most users of all time and that it's by
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far the most used music streaming service now they have 200 over 200 million users I think
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um yeah I think it's gonna not do well for the same reason that it didn't do well in the first place uh
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maybe not bad enough to discontinue this time because Apple doesn't discontinue things very often there are a lot of
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things that I think I look at Apple's lineup and I know that that's not selling very well yeah but it still
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exists at full price in the lineup like airpods Max might be an example where there's a good amount of them out there
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I think people eventually bought a good amount of airpods Max but the current Intel Mac Pro how many people are buying
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the current Intel Mac Pro I hope it's not very many yeah but they're still selling it still on the side they're
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still making them it's not discontinued so like when I saw the original homepod was discontinued it's like wow they
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really had to make a call here they were like we're not going to even make these anymore so I have another theory though
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um there was not a lot of home kit stuff out for like a very long time and now
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that matter is coming out and you're gonna be able to use like any smart home
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device with homekit it basically opens up Apple's home ecosystem like to a huge
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extent so prior it was like you were only really buying a homepod if you wanted a smart speaker that was very limited to
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the Apple ecosystem that could only really use apple music and that was very limiting extremely but now that you can
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use it as like an actual smart home hub kind of situation and it can be used
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with basically anything that you buy that's matter enabled I think that they're probably maybe projecting into the future a couple of years and just
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being like if we want to compete the number one if people that have iPhones are gonna like want to just be able to
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like use the Apple thing with their smart home hub so yeah I mean if you use apple music
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and then you can buy matter enabled products it kind of makes sense if you're willing to blow the money but beyond that yeah I
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don't really see a huge all of every single word that you said is true but it's also true about the mini yeah
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yes I do think some people are willing to spend the extra money for like the main
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room like I would be will like I have a regular well the old Google home that
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was 120 in my living room versus The Minis which I can like hide in little corners of my kitchen or the bathroom or
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the bedroom or something like that so like if it you are using it and you do listen to a lot of music in there or
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something like that like for one room it's crazy that the mini is still 99 though because yeah it's three times
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cheaper yeah the mini is actually still kind of expensive 99 bucks is I mean it's totally expensive all the Google
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home minis are like what Thirty thirty dollars it is but it's way better sound and it's also got a like a thread radio
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and it is yeah so I guess I'm just trying to figure out the the reason to get the the home pod over the mini right
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now and it's like there's not this one sounds way better yeah that's louder
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take the fraction of people who want it I mean yeah louder true I mean there's
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some fraction of people who are like the homepod mini is not good enough sounding or loud enough for me those people
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should spend the money and then that's kind of it they may be trying to um creep up into sonos's market share
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because when you go into like high quality large speakers sonus eats smart
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speakers so no seats everyone else's dust that is very true yeah Sonos so I
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have a Sonos setup and this did seem strikingly similar to a Sonos experience
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for me whoa weirdly did you hear that alliteration you're distractingly similarities
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strikingly similar to Sonos but no because Siri and oh boy here oh boy see
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it has a little bit of a differentiator but like with Sonos you can just like use it with Google Assistant there are things that you can do and it's a smart
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speaker but um if you have an Apple TV and with e-arc you can use a pair of Home pods as
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your Hi-Fi speaker setup if you want no sub but you know it is what it is and it'll sound pretty good still be at most
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surround sound support and that's cool and plus the benefit of being a smart home controller and all this other stuff
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that Sonos doesn't do very well yeah so if yeah if this like Sonos Market is big
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enough you could consider it also sort of stepping in in that territory yeah a
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little bit more market share yeah because there aren't really any competitors to Sonos in smart speaker
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the smart speaker space can you play Spotify on Sonos yes yeah I know I know I know yeah yeah yeah
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it comes down to Siri being kind of tough I mean in terms of market share though I think there was a really
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interesting stat you posted in the video that I just want to like I I want to just pose this to the audience and see
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you listed the market share of uh homepods in smart speaker at its peak in
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the US right in the US yeah so before I say or I'm gonna say the number and then if you're listening I just want you to
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think like do you think that's high or low because I'm interested to see where it would have been it would have been a really fun multiple choice I wish it
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could be a multiple choice beforehand but leave it in the comments or something but it's it's six percent so when you guys heard that what did you
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first think I think that's high it sounded High okay that's me too I was like that's how I I think I guessed two
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percent yeah or something when you asked me all smart speakers smart speakers in the US market share of the big homepod
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yeah that seems really high that's an incredible considering like Google hides Nest Hub minis like under your door yes
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yeah I don't really know how they managed to get that much market share but so then compare that now to U.S
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market share of iPhones which is over 50 yeah that is insane how we're thinking six
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percent is high for the Apple related smartphone or smart speaker that generally like you like to be in an
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ecosystem right we talk about Apple ecosystems yeah but it's so expensive for a smart speaker so I'm just saying and that's what's CR like something is
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wrong here where their market share is so little when they're they have the head start of the ecosystem market share
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already yes but the iPhone sitting across the room from you when you yell at it is the exact same experience as
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the homepod like you can just yell at Siri and have it do anything you want other than multiple timers I mean you
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could do that on like a pixel as well right so that's why I'm like is the iPhone's dominance in the US actually
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going to translate to selling smart speakers and I feel like it's not as strong of a tie maybe if it's headphones
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or other things where it's like these work best with the iPhone so if you have an iPhone you want to get these like
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airpods rode that train for sure but uh smart speaker like the homepod doesn't
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really add any value no matter what phone you use I guess I mean it's worse if you don't have an
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iPhone but it's like it's terrible if it's like unusable it doesn't work at all it's not a bluetooth speaker at all yeah so I guess if I see um I'm trying
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to think of a list of things that homepod offers that an iPhone user doesn't already have it's the sound quality it's the
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potential Hi-Fi setup and it's multiple timers couldn't you say the same about
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like a pixel and Google home though your pixel can like so activate all the things is yeah yeah the bigger one I
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guess I have one with the screen so I picture like that being super value added like seeing who's on the doorbell
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seeing you know the all the list of the buttons and lights you can turn on and all that stuff it's nice but most people don't even have that either so that's
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true I think it's pretty much assistance better it's a like it's an extremity of like your phone when if you're walking
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around your house you can still do anything you're still asking from your phone I think it's crazy that and I
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would argue that Apple doesn't want to look at it that way Apple does want to look at this is our market share of
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everything else why is our we want that to help increase the sales of our
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general Like Home Smart Solutions smart speaker not good it's because Siri sucks
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yeah that's what it comes down to can I throw one thing in here yeah okay so I can't find
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2022 stats I can only find 2021 stats I hope that doesn't make a huge difference but we talked about old airpod market
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share being six percent do you want to guess what the Sonos oh
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six what did I say you said nice yeah so homepod was six percent and
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we're guessing Sonos market share of of what of uh Home Smart speakers in the US
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specifically I'm gonna guess four percent Home Smart speakers so this
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is the same marketing yeah so this includes Alexa uh it'll it includes Google home Google
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home or Nest home whatever you want to call it yeah it's put it yeah three to four percent eight percent
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that's high yeah I'd say two damn all right well I
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thought everyone here was gonna be like 15 to 20 no because no it's it's nine percent oh it's nine oh yes okay if I
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were Apple I'd be sad that I'm under Sonos yeah that's pretty damn good that's really good
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it's popular you just said that no one no one compares to them well for in the
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large so smart speaker space in the large smart speakers which is a tiny Niche when you say large do you
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mean like a physically large physically large yeah yeah because like all their smart speakers are pretty big and like
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have really insane sound whereas like the Google Nest Hub mini is very tiny it doesn't have a lot of sound yeah okay
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Echo dot when you said large I thought you were talking about how they can have these really large like mesh networks
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set up yeah because like that that to me has always been like the whole outselling point of Sonos like if you
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have a mansion you can control the sound in like 20 different rooms yeah yeah
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yeah no I mean physically large all right well I'll just uh I mean it's still interesting I did not think at
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nine percent I think that's crazy that arguably the biggest tech company in the
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USD in 2021. well they did their thing although I will say like was that
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homepod just big just big homepod yeah I think so okay because Sonos had a lot of products and just big homepod hitting
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six percent is still every single product yeah as a single product it's still pretty high it seems so like if I did a multiple choice and I wanted to
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ask myself before I knew the answer I would say what do you think big homepod peaked at half a percent one percent say
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like three six percent or 12 and I'd be like half a percent for sure maybe one
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percent at best so it's yeah six percent is high yeah that's high all right now we have this oldest video
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on YouTube yeah I have one more thing did you see this no did you see this but the the new oldest YouTube video on
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YouTube that's what I was gonna this is a PSA to everyone out there who
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saw it but I thought it was kind of I heard about this damn it yeah we're supposed to all know that me at the zoo
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was the first YouTube video that's yes you at the zoo me at the zoo Marquez at the zoo who's on first yeah no that's
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the first that's the first video I think like that's a good piece of History to know yeah I'm gonna explain this very
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quickly but um last week there was a tweet going around that there was a new oldest video on YouTube that got
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discovered and it was just called Welcome to YouTube exclamation exclamation it was just a picture of YouTube
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like the YouTube logo I think um and on it it said the upload date was
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this is on YouTube's page April 5th 2005. little trivia here though do you guys
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remember when me at the zoo was uploaded I know it was 2005 April 6 2005.
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no it's 2005. I don't know what day sometimes well okay April 5th is the supposed April 25th 2005. who do you
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think you are asking trivia questions on my show we have so many trivia questions April 23rd 2005. oh was it really okay I
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thought it was the 25th because it's misinformation um so apparently what happened in this
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whole thing when people were looking at it is underneath the video it said uh live comments are disabled for this
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Premiere so I guess somehow the person found some sort of bug where they could go in create an old YouTube video on an
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old YouTube account and like schedule it to 2005 somehow yeah and then it came
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out in 2005. and that's funny that's why I think it's kind of fun I do think it's funny that everyone was like we
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discovered it's like archeology like yeah
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and we aged it and we found a page we carbon dated it yeah you say age but
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they made it look like an old video they like they made it just look like a crappy like animation or something
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that's well earned yeah they should leave it the only thing that I saw that gave it away is that the upload date of
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the video predates the creation date of the channel yeah the channel was like a a few months after which is crazy
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because that's still a very old Channel which the person who did it was like oh I have this 2005 YouTube or they found
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someone who has a really the olds this totally jogged my memory I found out my
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friend's dad is a 2006 YouTuber and has all these videos up online like
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a prolific like big time one not big time I know he has a no he's like he put
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out maybe a hundred videos and then stopped and it's all things of him in 2005 like I'm on the freeway I don't
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have anything to say like that was one of my first videos yeah it was a LG Voyager video test and
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I needed a fast-moving subject so I pointed out the wall the window of the car at freeway speeds and it's probably
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a passenger 30 second video well yeah you're not older I was too young to drive yeah that would be awesome if you
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were awesome I thought no I thought this was going to be one of those bugs where I don't know if you've ever had this where you will
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take a photo and then you go to look at it in your gallery and it's gone and you scroll all the way to the back and it's
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like it's at the very top of your gallery yeah like 1969 yeah why has that
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ever happened it's metadata get all messed up yeah sometimes I'll take a photo and it just goes oh this happened before the phone existed yeah
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interesting for some reason I thought that's what this was gonna be but this is this is an interesting story I think that person should get credit for at
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least trickling some people yeah that's hilarious it's kind of cool that like if they find out a bug they actually went through the effort of making it
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believable and not just pushed to like a Mr Beast video and saying that it was the oldest video and just to wrap it up
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though YouTube says they've found the issue and fixed it already so there will be no other ones of that we can all
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officially YouTube said just so you know me at the zoo will and will forever be the first video ever on
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YouTube perfect so good trivia don't be tricked I can't schedule a Premiere live stream of my own birth for 1993. can't
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do it anymore YouTube fixed it well we're gonna head to an ad break in a second but of course as we typically do
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as tradition on this show we will have a trivia question with the answer at the end
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podcast yeah end of the podcast so all right so new homepod just dropped hope
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you copped no we're not I don't care it has the S7 chip inside sure does the
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original homepod Mini that came out in 2020 had the S5 chip inside super
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powerful chip according to Apple how many times per second does the homepod mini EQ itself in real time
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hmm Apple would quote some crazy hat yep numbers for that I analyze the room I'm in a thousand
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times every second and if a pillow on your couch moves I will change the EQ settings to match accurate that's a
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random gift I really wanted to guess but then I looked at the answers now
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it's gonna be a crazy number well while we're all thinking about that let's take a quick break
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shopify.com waveform all right welcome back let's talk Samsung Galaxy s23 Samsung Galaxy s23
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plus and Samsung Galaxy s23 Ultra it's actually pretty easy to talk about
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it because they are pretty similar to the s22s this actually reminds me of I'm trying to remember which iPhone review
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it was where it's such a small update it might have been the 13 of the 12 but it's an update
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in the couple of things that are most important on a phone which is it has
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better cameras it has a better chip and it has better batteries that's that's a good set of small things if you're gonna
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do a small update good things to do right so s23 and s23 plus are the same
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sizes of the small flat 1080p displays 6.1 and 6.6 inches Phantom black cream
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green and lavender I do not like these colors I like the green just gonna be honest here I don't think they're very
00:23:45
good I like the green it's kind of a military green that's the one you're at the cream and lavender are just so like
00:23:51
safe yeah I don't know about The Pastels it's been a thing for like four or five years where they just go pastels and they go you can get neutral or near
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neutral how do you feel about those colors or black which is black it's like a neutral black too it's like a gray
00:24:04
it's like a dark gray it is what it is um but they all have new camera sensors across the board so 50 megapixel main
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sensor I took a bunch of sample photos on these that when I was doing my Impressions video and just sort of like
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clicking around seeing how it felt and they did look really good and this is
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like a super subjective two-hour experience that we had but uh they're claiming four times more dynamic range
00:24:25
and improved processing so I want to see how those look when you get them out in the real world larger batteries on both
00:24:31
3 900 and 4700 those are both 200 milliamp hours bigger than last year so when we combine that with the Snapdragon
00:24:37
8 Gen 2 which appears to be much more efficient I feel like that's a solid you know small couple things to upgrade
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on a phone super safe fine s23 Ultra has sort of along the
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same lines uh Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 a big bright 1440p display a couple things
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that they did with this phone are it has these really flat sides now that I love it's a subtle thing but it's the shape
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of the phone when you're holding your hand it's much more square and boxy like the note used to be I like that a lot
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and the camera sensor upgrades are also all here it's a 200 megapixel main
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sensor so it's going to be some serious binning 16 pixels into one to get a 12.5
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megapixel shot um still a 5000 milliamp hour battery still an S Pen in the side still 120
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hertz still 6.8 inches still up to a terabyte um new selfie cameras on all these
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phones and they look about the same
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the price tags are also looking about the same 799 9.99 11.99
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do you need to upgrade if you have an S21 or s22 I don't think so S21 Ultra I
00:25:47
would still be happy using that phone today if you have an older phone or a different phone this is probably the move now they did
00:25:53
this thing also we just finished watching the keynote that I did not like as much which is they're also selling the s22 for 6.99 and I don't think that
00:26:03
that's a good deal I don't think you should buy the s22 right now for 6.99 considering there's other phones in the
00:26:09
pipeline for that price you can get a pixel 7 today for 5.99 I don't think
00:26:15
that that's the phone you should get for that money I don't know like I can't confirm this because I don't have like
00:26:20
it but I guarantee you the s22 has been sold for cheaper than 6.99 at some point
00:26:26
in the last year like Samsung does some crazy deals yeah it definitely has been cheaper than Prime day Black Friday
00:26:32
sure or like a two for one deal or something like that like it's on Amazon right now for 4.39 there's a refurb wait
00:26:41
is that like refurbished refurbished if you want to get a brand new one it'll still be expensive but like I know I bet
00:26:46
you could buy brand new ones for cheaper than that at some point probably directly from Samsung yeah I'd rather an
00:26:52
S21 Ultra then an s22 right now I think the S21 Ultra is one of the best holding
00:26:57
up phones I mean we could talk about software updates and how long that's going to get software updates these are going to get five years of security
00:27:02
updates four years of one UI software updates so if you do get an older phone now you'll sacrifice some of that but
00:27:08
aside from that yeah great cameras great screen great battery that phone's really good so you know it's a minor update
00:27:14
across the board that's kind of what we're expecting with Samsung uh my title for the Impressions video was cruise
00:27:19
control because okay I really like dave2d's video on this he did like a two and a three minute video on it but he
00:27:26
did bring up you played valorant right yes something I didn't know about valorent was when you play a bunch of
00:27:31
different uh you play a bunch of rounds in a row with a team or whatever correct me if I'm wrong in any of this I haven't
00:27:37
heard this analogy so I'm very excited well you play a bunch of different rounds uh you might take one round and
00:27:43
play it as an Eco round where you're just going to play and try to spend as little as possible and just get through
00:27:48
it so that you can make bigger upgrades to Your Arsenal or whatever you're fighting with the next time around and
00:27:53
I've always thought this about video games like I've never articulated this thought but I feel like there's two types of video game players like in 2K
00:27:59
if you're playing my career you can buy new VC and improve your player every once in a while okay and the two types
00:28:06
of players are player One upgrades as much as he possibly can every time which is just a small bump every time or
00:28:12
player 2 which is me which is play as long as you possibly can with your current player until it's basically
00:28:18
unplayable and then use all of your money on all of your upgrades and you're a God also me yeah hi yeah same here
00:28:24
that's the move right I think I need to I hate to go on a gaming rant here but I need to like change that analogy a
00:28:30
little bit the way you're doing it feels closer to like an MMO where you're just like I'm not going to use my skill
00:28:36
points until I can't kill a creature anymore exactly valorent is like super round based so essentially whether you
00:28:42
win or lose around you get money and that round if you died you you start off with like no guns essentially so every
00:28:49
round you have to buy guns and armor and you it's like the it's first to win 13
00:28:54
Rounds and this is Counter-Strike as well they're all like Economy based games right where so like
00:28:59
if you lose a round it's better to just be like this next round is gonna be a wash it's
00:29:05
better for me to be able to actually have my guns the next round and then you like you either don't spend anything or
00:29:11
you spend to a point where you know you can buy the next round right so it's like I like both it's a little different yeah yeah so yeah I guess my my
00:29:17
connection back to smartphones is I think this is Samsung going we want to spend as little as possible on R D this
00:29:24
time and then maybe the bigger upgrade is next time so like the bare minimum they could do is just throw the new chip in
00:29:30
there and and literally ship the same phone with your chip right so they did a couple extra things new camera sensors
00:29:36
some tweaking they still have all those people on higher they're working on the cameras it's a little better this year but like this isn't a big change we're
00:29:42
working on some other changes that'll come later so here we are they did it they won last round yeah 2022. yeah and
00:29:49
now they're that's big they're just gonna use the same guns going into this round and then maybe buy an OP next round so that's that's you exactly how
00:29:56
it feels yeah exactly there it is works for me gaming that might just be the review what's up Gamers honestly now
00:30:02
that we're talking about this I kind of feel like I need a jack Dave's thing and talk about video games
00:30:09
well I mean I it applies to 2K pretty heavily or like any game with skill upgrades that you can just go as long as
00:30:15
you can with without upgrading your skill so shout out to dave2d Dave when you see my video that has video game
00:30:21
talks in it you'll know that I was inspired by you I want to play Valerian with Dave no that's probably the move
00:30:27
it's probably really fun that seems like about it for Samsung oh one more thing
00:30:32
this might not even be new I I gotta check the old phone 8K video at 30 FPS
00:30:37
not just 24. I think that might have been in last year's phone too but I'm just happy isn't 4K 60 front facing camera new this
00:30:45
year yeah you got new sensors across the board they were doing this crazy binning of like a 40 megapixel selfie camera on the ultra now it's just like a 12 or a
00:30:52
yeah 12 megapixel front camera across the board but it will do 4K 60. it is a
00:30:57
12 megapixel so it can support that which is cool I mean I I think the cameras are the thing that I need to
00:31:03
test to find out the most about whether or not that upgrade is Meaningful because you got to really put in a bunch
00:31:09
of different scenarios but like I expect Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 to be really good because I've used other phones with Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 and they're really
00:31:16
good so here we are New Year Samsung stuff s23 I do want to say I think that
00:31:22
a 200 Elite from the regular one to the bigger one is kind of a lot and I know they've always done that and it's pretty
00:31:29
much always been a 200 leap but it seems like a lot like just to get a
00:31:34
bigger screen and a slightly larger battery that's what you get like 200 bucks is a pretty significant chunk of
00:31:40
higher base storage which is true that's a good point for some people I did a poll on Twitter of like what's your
00:31:45
because I this is what I was thinking about what's their minimum based storage for a phone just buying a new phone today and about half the people said
00:31:51
128. and there was a drop off after that but yeah you do get 128 on the s23 yeah
00:31:57
but you get 256 space okay on the s23 plus so that's really not that much then yeah okay so for people who want that
00:32:03
that's available I will I will be testing these phones we'll be reviewing these phones stay tuned for the reviews
00:32:08
they'll be coming out the ultra is even more boxy than last year right very boxy yeah it's like a note I really like it
00:32:14
it kind of just looks like the note that's what I've always wanted yeah that's that's exactly what I've been hoping for I love the note it's the note
00:32:20
without the word note yeah just the note it's great it's just kind of funny to me because the note had such a intensely loyal fan following and then they just
00:32:26
kind of got rid of it and now they made the note again but it even has the S Pen you know it's like
00:32:32
didn't know wasn't the note slightly more expensive even yeah I think it was like 12.99 or so so they kind of
00:32:38
shoehorned it into the S lineup so more people are able to try it maybe they just had too many devices because
00:32:44
they've got the a line they've got that when is that ever stop Samsung though yeah they started messing up the note
00:32:49
though remember they were adding like different versions of the note that then got word like it used to always be like
00:32:54
the flagship versions but then the note 20 had that like weird one yeah the plastic one yeah yeah which uh
00:33:01
yeah those a shame but um there's one more thing from the unpacked event that I liked that's
00:33:07
really boring but I actually thought it was a really good idea the maintenance mode did you do you remember what that
00:33:12
was from the that little section yeah yeah it was pretty much like you can turn your phone into maintenance mode
00:33:18
when you're going to be giving your phone to like a carrier or somebody working on it to try and fix something for you and it essentially locks all
00:33:25
your personal stuff like photos contacts text messages so I mean we've heard these horror stories of putting your
00:33:31
phone in to get fixed and then people are like Distributing pictures or looking through your photo albums or
00:33:36
stuff it's just like this one little step of security that you add a PIN to and now all of your stuff is safe and
00:33:43
somebody can fix it without being a creep which is nice to know as someone that worked Best Buy Mobile for many
00:33:48
years yeah bro it just like people will give you their stuff and like be like oh there's
00:33:55
something wrong with my gallery app look and just show you all their pictures and like I've seen some stuff
00:34:01
that sounds like their fault this is more stuff it's like but yeah but I'm appreciative of that yeah as the
00:34:07
employee like I don't want to see that either yeah please do not let me see that yeah yeah an app they're like or in the presentation they were like you can
00:34:13
hide sensitive apps like banking apps and I was like we know what you mean you can just say it so yeah it'll show up as
00:34:19
like a fresh phone with no apps basically which is good well or and just the the apps that are like or whatever
00:34:25
like settings and stuff like that I mean even if you're just like letting a stranger borrow your phone to like make
00:34:30
a phone call or something I feel like that's a good they're honestly the points in this like in our environment
00:34:35
right here where we're probably shooting the phone where if you're testing that's 23 maybe you should probably put it in maintenance mode just so like all of
00:34:41
your text messages aren't coming in but you're also mostly the one shooting stuff but let's go airplane mode airplane mode true do not disturb
00:34:48
something like that either way it's good I mean we'll find out if it's really good but it looks like it's a pretty
00:34:54
solid update from Samsung so check out The Impressions video if you haven't already that'll be up and I think that's
00:35:00
it for Samsung can I say one more thing yes go for it this is funny just because this Hiroshi just responded to me on
00:35:07
Twitter and I want to like the whole unpacked event he was wearing a watch that I couldn't figure out
00:35:13
it was a gout I was like that looks like a watch5 pro except well first I said that's not a pixel watch it's definitely
00:35:20
too big here's Android so whatever he's at a Samsung event I understand wearing a Samsung watch he looked like a watch five Pro but it was silver
00:35:27
but as far as I know they don't make that can someone like looking like I'm I've looked multiple times I cannot find a silver watch5 Pro he gave it titanium
00:35:34
silver so here's what he said that's what he said I he there's a picture of
00:35:40
him at the event and I just responded and tagged him underneath and uh he somehow saw it and I was like is that a
00:35:47
silver watch5 Pro and he said yep it's a watch5 pro in Gray titanium but as far as I know that doesn't exist hey I don't
00:35:54
see Elite there's oh wait there is a great Titanic hey I see it it's a great titanium I'll kill all of this
00:35:59
I'm leaving it in that really it looks good it oh I was just scrolling on Twitter too and I just got to a hot take
00:36:05
from Sarah dichi that I fully agree with I'm just gonna read it let's see see if people agree with it too zoom lenses
00:36:11
feel like they're for work and prime lenses feel like they're for fun every time you shoot video and you look at
00:36:17
like video tips on how to improve your video they always go shoot Prime they'll always be sharper
00:36:25
and then I go okay yeah shoot Prime it'll always look better and be sharper and then I shoot Prime for like one
00:36:30
video project and I get so annoyed with switching lenses yeah that I go back to the zoom because for actual work where
00:36:37
you're changing focal lengths all the time and you're doing constant stuff with the cameras it's nothing beats a good zoom yeah but
00:36:42
for fun you know throw out throw on a prime shoot some stuff to
00:36:48
focused on like what you're doing for fun interesting I'm like looking at I'm I
00:36:54
want to go on vacation this summer and I want to go to the Tetons because there's a bunch of wildlife there and I'm
00:37:00
looking at this Sony 300 to 600 millimeter meter lens but I'm not gonna bring a prime lenses to try and shoot
00:37:07
Wildlife I guess trying to shoot Wildlife is one thing I think if you're like a you're a photographer for fun and
00:37:14
you're like oh it's going to be a nice sunset tonight I'm gonna go out with my 16 mil and get some big dramatic cityscapes or something that's like
00:37:21
for fun you know yeah I'm not saying it's not for fun but I feel like there are fun scenarios where like having the
00:37:27
variability of a zoom lens is probably that's pretty useful zoom lens is for life that's all on team zoom lenses for
00:37:33
sure as some people would say should ratio Sarah use your feet to zoom dang well
00:37:39
true up to a point with Wildlife orthography you're actually not supposed you can only zoom out yeah far enough
00:37:45
also I immediately imagine putting your feet on the lens and I did not understand what you were talking about
00:37:51
definitely not do that for wildlife photography oh look a Grizzly let me
00:37:57
just walk closer I'm gonna use my 11 million yeah open AI announces chat GPT Plus for
00:38:04
20 a month yeah for those who want to talk to Ai and don't want to wait for faster responses I might be in I I use
00:38:13
it a lot I mean it's down all the time but I might be in I think they're artificially putting it down
00:38:19
oh interesting oh wow that might be I don't know because it's down all the
00:38:25
time it really is and it only started going down all the time like a week ago and then they mysteriously released this like what's the version that's never
00:38:31
down and got bought by Microsoft yeah I mean it does feel like this company with billions of dollars should be able to
00:38:36
keep this chat bot up well especially since they're using Azure right and they can just scale that but I don't I don't
00:38:41
know you want to think about that Microsoft is actually like notoriously good yeah just being like no they're
00:38:48
using Microsoft Services they should never go well yeah but it's scalable it's like AWS theoretically I should the more traffic
00:38:55
it gets the more it'll spin up yeah more more Hardware but open ai's chatbot
00:39:00
always seems to be down yeah I find myself trying to use it all the time and now that it's like now that I look back
00:39:07
and we're just the beginning of February and I look back at how many times I tried to use it in January I would have paid 20 bucks for all of those to have
00:39:14
been like uninterrupted so maybe if I keep using it at this rate I will be in this is where we very quickly start to
00:39:20
get into the weird copyright stuff that we haven't yet had to deal with because like when they're charging for another
00:39:25
Force yeah because previously it was just that like open sourced Foundation that was
00:39:32
like just giving it away and yeah now they're charging that's a really good point yeah interesting yeah Dolly I
00:39:37
think is a worse problem because art that's scraped from the internet whereas this is just words and words are just
00:39:43
words you know you're creating heat Maps based on tell that's a singer songwriters
00:39:49
songwriters get all the money it gets Taylor Swift in the room she'll shut it all down I feel like
00:39:55
singer songwriters don't get all the money isn't that like the big problem with the music industry if you wrote the song you get like 50 the singer gets
00:40:03
like seven percent or something crazy but if you're the writer you get a lot of money if I didn't have to do any work and I could just sing a song I'd
00:40:09
probably be fine with seven percent some would argue it's a lot of work to sing a song the singers would argue I
00:40:15
could do it right now yeah but then Whopper Whopper Whopper Whopper
00:40:22
so I should get banged yeah I mean I'd give you 50 if you wrote the Whopper song
00:40:27
we've never needed a trivia questions I hope the guy who wrote this song was
00:40:33
getting paid there it is did you write that Alice wait who did right there who wrote that
00:40:39
someone who submits music to epidemic sounds nice so they are probably getting they are getting paid yeah
00:40:45
a typical LCD screen has a white backlight what color is the backlight on
00:40:51
a qled display
00:41:03
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00:41:10
all right welcome back so this is a new segment that I'm bringing title is under
00:41:16
construction but for now I'm thinking we're calling it over under hyped
00:41:22
right over or under hyped over or under hyped over hyped or under hyped let us
00:41:27
know in the comments which one you think works better if we even keep this I don't know maybe we never do this again because it bombs hyped or wiped the way
00:41:33
this works is I'm going that's not bad that isn't bad okay I'm gonna say something it has to do with tech uh wait
00:41:41
let me double check yeah they all have took thank you
00:41:46
they all except one that I'm deleting now so they all have to do with tuck Goji berries
00:41:53
I'm gonna say something has to with tech you guys have to tell me if it's over hyped
00:41:58
or under hyped I will give you each one perfectly hyped I like that you get one
00:42:05
perfectly height so it's like it's not over it's not under I don't know or if it's like offensive it's like I'm just
00:42:11
gonna say perfectly clear of this one okay all right number one coming in hot
00:42:16
Johnny Ive huh current Johnny Ive no no just like in
00:42:24
general because when you it's like naming an NBA player and saying are they over under hyped it's like well their career or their current status yeah so
00:42:33
current Johnny I've to me is over hyped would a clown knows have anything to do
00:42:39
with this yes we just saw this headline of uh yeah luckily there was no price tag I was
00:42:45
equating a supreme shirt before you guys okay good job this time I appreciate
00:42:50
that but yeah there was like a headline of like Johnny I have designed a clown nose and it's like why is this even an article I don't know it's cool but like
00:42:57
whatever yeah I'd say current but I mean we did see a long history of his career
00:43:02
designing things at Apple which had some really good products and then they slowly descended into minimal Madness and some might argue he ruined the
00:43:09
MacBook Pro so like I think it's safe to say Johnny I have over hyped probably
00:43:14
agree with oh it's so weird because like in our community yeah we all know who Johnny
00:43:21
Ive is and talk about them all the time but like if you mentioned Johnny Ive to anybody but like if you mentioned Johnny
00:43:26
I have to your parents they're not gonna have any idea who you're talking about so we are talking about the current Johnny Ive right because that's how I
00:43:34
Define he designed that like iMac G3 with the the colorful iMac G3 he just he
00:43:39
designed the iPod the iPhone the Apple I mean he's got a great portfolio like the
00:43:45
resume is crazy the resume goes hard but current yeah he did wreck the MacBook
00:43:50
Pro for sure yeah there was a plane which the form he needed Apple silicon
00:43:55
to make his vision come to life did he make the Magic Mouse oh that's that's
00:44:01
pivotal he did make the hockey puck yeah I just saw that on yourself I think all Apple mice are notoriously like terrible
00:44:07
minimal and bad yeah they're all bad so I would say yeah his mice probably aren't that doesn't look like he did the
00:44:14
magic but he might have done some more yes I'm sticking with over
00:44:20
yeah I'm probably gonna go over although I would say over he's a great speaker though Malcolm
00:44:28
Owen Magic Mouse 2 aluminum well I got it wow wait a minute yeah sorry I'm
00:44:35
catching trees over here Ellis thought that it was Johnny Ives
00:44:41
um nice minimal name too your battery life Johnny without the H he's the ultimate
00:44:47
minimalist isn't he truly not Johnny I have a count on Twitter that's quality
00:44:52
account it's chef's kiss fantastic account all right I think we're all please resume your headset did you also
00:44:57
over I would say over yeah all right unanimous over it's over yeah number two
00:45:03
foldable pixel phone okay I thought you were going to say foldables in general and I was going to
00:45:09
be torn foldable pixel doesn't exist yet we get one hype
00:45:15
one appropriately but that's bold because we don't even know what it looks like yeah
00:45:21
um we don't know much about it but we kind of have this uh over a leading interesting thing your parents don't
00:45:28
know because you were just saying no your parents don't know about Johnny I if your parents probably wouldn't know about a foldable
00:45:34
pixel rumor either right definitely not my parents definitely died I think the scale of
00:45:39
those I'm gonna I'm gonna just like put this in the like in our Tech Community right now okay it feels just like we're
00:45:45
just talking about the folding pixel because it's the new pixel that folds and we wanted to talk about the new every company that folds and pixels up
00:45:52
next and then it's over hyped and I don't think it's if the folding pixel drops they hypothetically will have
00:45:58
beaten Apple to the foldables product category two which is like everybody listen I'm excited for it but I think
00:46:04
it's all right yeah it's gonna be their first gen foldable too which has just not done well for anybody yet I'm gonna
00:46:11
use my one single appropriately hyped interesting you're using it this early
00:46:16
that's a question too that is early I have like 30. I like we have like 50 of
00:46:21
these I'm gonna go regret um I I fundamentally I will not be able
00:46:28
to correctly answer until it comes out but since we're answering now I'll say overhyped all right next question yeah this one's
00:46:36
a little Whimsy standing desks [Music] over hyped under hyped or perfectly
00:46:42
hyped overhyped sorry overhyped
00:46:48
because like when I use it when I use it it's like ah but I never use it I was
00:46:54
gonna say I can't remember the last time I saw you standing at you yeah that's a good point thanks for calling me Marquez
00:46:59
every hour 10 minutes before the hour we'll just mysteriously rise this is
00:47:04
what Marquez does his desk's right that's right he doesn't rise every time
00:47:11
his Apple watch gives him a notification time to stand there is a beautiful seven seconds where
00:47:17
you're posed like the Thriller music video this made me think they should have a a
00:47:25
sit stand desk oh that's a good question though are we talking about sit stand or are we just talking about standing uh
00:47:30
I'll do sit stand both okay sit stands are incredible they should have one that
00:47:36
you can set like it will stand during your work hour x amount of days and like for x amount of hours in a day therefore
00:47:43
it kind of forces you to stand yeah yeah because like I love I love to stand but
00:47:48
like I'm lazy and a lot of times I sit and if I I try to stand more often I
00:47:54
think they're great though I also love to stand I
00:48:01
don't know I should use mine more I I don't know what the hype level is of standing desks
00:48:07
so it's hard to evaluate if it's over under I think there's so many people there's like Fitness influencers who think this is like life-changing kind of
00:48:14
stuff do they think that or they just tell you there's a fair amount of sitting down will kill you on the internet so I think I'm gonna go with
00:48:20
over hyped despite my love for my standing desk and I do believe it's a really good thing to have I think it
00:48:27
might be over as someone with miserable posture
00:48:41
uh sitting down will kill you faster because you are closer to the Center of the Earth which means that time moves
00:48:47
faster technically sitting down will kill you because eventually you'll run out of food and if you don't stand up you can't
00:48:53
get more that's why there's wheels on my chair oh yeah
00:49:00
I don't think I over under I almost want to say
00:49:10
I don't think enough people are willing to pull the trigger on it even though they are very useful if I told you the
00:49:16
price tag of a sit stand that's the problem that's the problem but there's more that are there's a lot more options coming out there's like the Ikea Crank
00:49:23
that yeah they have some things that are desktoppers that you can if you owned a
00:49:28
crank desk would you ever do this for 35 seconds to stand up for a little bit I don't think it's 400 less think about
00:49:35
the Rings you'd be closing I was just gonna say yeah I would just walk around at that point
00:49:40
or better for you than standing at that point yeah we gotta get into like the level of friction of like making people
00:49:47
stand up versus putting in the effort you know people just have to crank their car windows oh yeah absolutely but you
00:49:53
know why we don't do that anymore because that's terrible uh dude that was always fun I think my dad right now has
00:49:59
a has a sort of a mechanism where there's a platform on his desk yeah that
00:50:04
extends up so the desk stays so you don't have to buy a six thousand dollar desk but you can pop up like your laptop
00:50:09
and your mouse and keyboard a little bit yeah so you can stand use it put it down whenever appropriately hyped are you
00:50:15
gonna I went under under okay I like what Brandon does where he has the tall desk that doesn't move but he has a he
00:50:21
has a stool a stool that's awesome because then you can just stand up whenever he wants wait now he has both
00:50:27
really now he has a sit stand desk that sits that stands most of the time with a
00:50:33
stool seat oh wow it's an interesting what's the point of that if his tool can't go down there is no point of it
00:50:38
dropping down I don't think his desk will ever drop down oh he just wanted a bigger desk anyways next question all
00:50:44
right all right this next one you can either do the word itself or the concept of
00:50:51
nitography overhyped over a thousand percent okay it's over hyped unanimous easy all right
00:50:59
then what about this one night mode the concept I mean night mode is a good feature
00:51:06
but is it hyped the smartphone companies will try to Hype it exactly so they all have night
00:51:12
mode at this point with various names like night sight or nitography or low
00:51:17
light mode or whatever whatever what is Apple call theirs it's just like I think it's low light mode
00:51:24
I think it's just nice I think they're useful yeah and the fact that you know
00:51:30
what I'm gonna go the fact that you can have a little tiny computer in your hands where you can hold something in place with Optical image stabilization
00:51:36
and it will take a bunch of exposures and compensate them all into one multi-frame image
00:51:42
is under hyped yeah I can I can agree with that because like it's something that's pretty
00:51:48
spectacular but now we're expecting it in literally every single frame like we just expected at this point standard
00:51:53
it's amazing I will say when the pixel 2 [Music]
00:52:06
Nightside took a little longer or was it the four I don't know when the pixel first did it the three I thought so yeah
00:52:12
three it was like incredible and then when the P30 came out and it could just completely see in the dark and everyone
00:52:17
was like yeah I remember doing some test shots now I just like when the robot room closed all the doors and the lights
00:52:24
and everything shut the shades and took a picture of the robot and then the photos like oh yeah the lights are on it's fine yeah we can see everything
00:52:29
with the P30 yeah yeah yeah I was like in Morocco in a completely dark room in
00:52:35
the shed yeah and I couldn't see anything and I took a photo
00:52:41
that's so David yeah I took a photo and it was like there's
00:52:47
literally no light in this room I cannot see a single thing and yet the phone just like sees everything it's crazy I
00:52:53
would say underrated up next Wi-Fi 6E
00:53:04
oh sorry I was I was leaning towards overrated but now that I think about it
00:53:09
it's really just a footnote at everyone's presentation like it's not really hyped it just is everywhere and
00:53:14
you're like I would actually say that Wi-Fi six seven is a bigger jump than Wi-Fi six to
00:53:20
six E I haven't seen as much hype for it either about seven yeah the cool thing about seven is that it creates a
00:53:26
dedicated smart home accessories Channel that all of your smart home stuff
00:53:31
attaches to so that it doesn't start doing that like mix between uh five gigahertz and 2.4 and messing everything
00:53:38
up this is what happens every time this is such a in the weeds thing but like every time Euro updates their routers
00:53:43
they like add features to the old routers to build those features into older versions of Wi-Fi so my older Eero
00:53:52
router has a separate Channel 4 iot oh and it's like a 2.4
00:54:00
gigahertz channel that you connect your doorbell and smart accessories to yeah and then yeah you hear like oh yeah
00:54:07
Wi-Fi seven is just gonna have like that built in it's like okay sure I'm going with appropriately hyped
00:54:14
Wi-Fi 6E is appropriately high so you've all used your appropriately hyped I have not used my appropriately yet you didn't
00:54:20
use it no okay I can't succeed
00:54:27
it's like if you're Min maxing it's over Heights I'm gonna say overhyped for sure yeah yeah seven is pretty dope though I
00:54:33
think seven is under hyped all right I'm just saying next question chat GPT
00:54:40
wow over hyped or perfectly wow I feel like you need to gauge the amount of
00:54:46
hype that's behind it very it just made billions or
00:54:51
I'm gonna say overhyped because even though it is like an incredibly transformative technology its
00:54:58
limitations are being shown pretty hardcore now that people have used it a lot and it still has really basic
00:55:05
problems once you understand like how it's actually doing the inferences like it can't do math like at all you've sold
00:55:13
me yeah yeah if you were if people still talk about it every day right if you would have said like a i
00:55:20
that would have been tougher but specifically as a as a sort of a figurehead for AI
00:55:25
like AI is clearly a very important thing for the future but chat GPT specifically is a little bit worse than
00:55:33
people make it up yeah so I'd say it's over chat GPT is getting all of the hype for AI they serve for just a proxy sure
00:55:40
yeah yeah yeah what's the next one Alice is just staring longingly at me he was like
00:55:47
he says David ml yeah
00:55:52
uh why don't we do that's what I've been saving by perfectly I appreciate that
00:55:58
let's do this one next super minimal desk setups overhypes
00:56:05
yeah good yes extremely I agree that's why I have my desk the way I have it yeah if you saw David and his eyes
00:56:13
it's like that's why I never take anything off my desk I think the super minimal ones like clearly uh form over
00:56:20
function yeah so yeah overhyped yeah all right next but you still got to close some tabs that's how I downloaded Arc
00:56:28
David we're here for you thanks stories just in general yeah like Snapchat stories Instagram stories bedtime
00:56:34
telling you stories I think the stories feature is was at
00:56:41
the time like the most transformative social media feature for like three to four years
00:56:47
because everyone added it and everyone used it it's the one it's like the the
00:56:52
one feature that Facebook just blatantly stole that immediately everyone started using more than the main function of
00:56:57
Instagram so yeah I was gonna go with under hyped
00:57:03
but then you see that like no it's it is under hyped a little bit I was it used
00:57:08
to be over hyped when there was like YouTube stories and Linkedin stories and we're about to see like Excel stories or
00:57:13
something but like black stories at this point now I think it's died down enough and we don't realize just how ubiquitous
00:57:18
stories actually are there's basically no hype for stories but it's kind of amazing and it's like yeah that's a
00:57:24
primary feed for a lot of people so yeah 70 of my like diets it sounded so much
00:57:30
like but like yeah most of my use in Instagram is just stories yeah I'll
00:57:36
usually close it so probably I'd say under but I agree there was an overhype phase of when like YouTubers trying to
00:57:42
add it and Linkedin was trying to it's almost everywhere it's like with Clubhouse my Clubhouse was super over hyped and
00:57:48
then everyone just added a clubhouse feature to their app yeah yeah up next we have air tags
00:57:54
under hyped that was a quick answer right now I agree I think that air tags are like the
00:58:01
cheapest most useful Apple product Apple product yeah or just product category
00:58:07
like I know that look I know that tiles existed we made a whole video around this uh but just the
00:58:13
fact that every single Apple device is a beacon for finding your thing makes it
00:58:19
like one of the most useful products you can possibly own and it's thirty dollars well it's us in the US totally totally
00:58:25
under hyped in the US because they're just so many more beacons for it yeah it's crazy it's so much better than tile
00:58:30
because of that when evaluating the level of hype are you guys seeing all these stories about like this airline lost my luggage and then I just found it
00:58:37
with an air tag it's like pretty constant but is a good thing like a good level of hype for it I think a lot of my
00:58:44
Normie friends see one of my air tags and like what's that I'm like oh it's an air tag and I'm like what's that and the
00:58:49
fact that they are normies so they obviously know what most Apple stuff is but they don't know what an air tag is
00:58:54
makes me think that it's under hyped I feel like everyone who has an iPhone should have at least two air tags and
00:59:00
that's not true I think that's like a I don't have an iPhone and I think that's a pretty I feel like that should one for
00:59:07
this it seems so what
00:59:14
yeah you could put it on your car so your car doesn't get stolen I don't know there's a I have a lot of different camera I own basically yeah yeah I mean
00:59:21
you're currently it's stolen but you'll know exactly where it is that could actually be very helpful though so I have a friend that put in his bike and
00:59:27
his bike got stolen and he literally sent the police to the dude's home and that he had to give it back nice underhyped also if hypothetically if you
00:59:36
have type if you have a device that's the name of
00:59:41
the segment hypothetically hypothetically speaking there we go oh that's good that was the wrong sound
00:59:48
I like that okay all right it's this is not a joke um
00:59:54
hypothetically I keep being like because I don't have any air tags but I am an Apple product user I keep being like Oh
00:59:59
yeah I should get an air tag so I can put it on my iPad it is an air attack yeah all right uh
01:00:07
how are you guys feeling you want to do one or two more of these I still need to use yeah and so now that I know there's
01:00:12
going until Andrew uses yeah keep silent all right surround
01:00:18
sound keep going
01:00:28
we were all kids when surround sound was being super hyped and I I even remember
01:00:33
how annoyed I was at how much they were hyping it even though I was a freaking child all you need is a good stereo mix
01:00:38
yeah that's it it doesn't it's a it's not a big deal it's crazy okay anyway two more that didn't count
01:00:47
smart watches not smart water water bottles under eyes
01:00:54
so smart watches right now
01:00:59
I use my perfectly hyped so I think I have to go with under hyped just because of how fast the Apple watch became the
01:01:07
most popular single watch on planet Earth I don't think a lot of people know just how popular these watches are
01:01:14
and of course every other company is trying to like replicate that success and make a really good competitor and that's like getting hyped but I just I
01:01:20
can't say overhyped I think it's under hyped a little bit I would also say probably under hyped
01:01:26
because I don't see a ton of smart watches in the wild all the time like I
01:01:31
see a decent amount but like not I see a lot of analog watches still I mean I
01:01:37
wear one but like the the price like the price to value
01:01:43
that you can get from a smart watch is pretty insane like the amount of metrics and tracking you can do it's pretty
01:01:48
insane I would say I see them all the time but I just like feel like I don't people see people asking about them or
01:01:55
talking about them as much so like I feel like there isn't a lot of hype level there so I think under hyped but
01:02:01
they seem insanely popular there's so many good things about them yeah it's the most popular watch on Earth yeah
01:02:08
what you're talking about I mean all smart watches but yeah you watch nerds do you know is the Seiko 5 the second
01:02:14
most popular watch on Earth um I don't think so actually it's very popular but I don't think it's like the
01:02:21
second most popular Casio yeah it might be the Cassius yeah
01:02:27
interesting yeah under under next one
01:02:32
Roomba Roomba the product to vacuum any company
01:02:38
yeah I mean or are you referring to like the the cup Style no no no no no no no I
01:02:43
mean well the company's iRobot so Roomba is okay that's fair actually the company
01:02:49
is Amazon now Amazon about iRobot let's let's try it like actually Robot vacuum
01:02:56
disambiguated okay you know like uh let's include the Samsung vacuums and
01:03:02
yeah you know so robot vacuums robot vacuums over under hyped under Heights they're
01:03:09
awesome I will say my I was never into them like I was always like why would you want that and then my friends have a
01:03:16
Samsung one that you can get an app on your phone and drive it around like a remote control car and I was like all
01:03:22
right now I want it that's all I need well astrobot's better for that but it doesn't clean things it doesn't clean things no it's honestly like
01:03:30
I I love my Roomba it's fantastic I also love being like Claire I'm gonna vacuum
01:03:37
the living room and then I just like open my phone and press the button in front of her and then it's like all right done with cleaning please
01:03:43
my floors are bowed about 17 degrees and they kind of do this and so um I don't
01:03:50
think a Roomba would work it's that boat yeah I feel like a Roomba can still handle it I trip just walking around in
01:03:58
my apartment yeah oh I live in the oldest building in Green Point so
01:04:04
pretty bad in the basement the cellar
01:04:09
so you're going over what's your address no I I I'm saying I couldn't tell you
01:04:15
because I don't really know yeah you have to have flat floors to
01:04:20
like really appreciate a robot vacuum I think there's a lot of things you have to have to really appreciate a robot vacuum like there's some people who
01:04:26
would just not have any use for it and then there's some people who are like I have a kid I have dog hair I have like a
01:04:32
flower with dog hairs because like I don't always feel like vacuuming but if it can at least do like a quick once a
01:04:38
run with Mac just shedding like crazy like have you seen twice a week is so nice robot and mops oh yeah well we had
01:04:45
one in the studio for a little bit yeah yeah and then those actually work pretty well those I like that yeah I'm leaning
01:04:51
under hyped actually yeah under it they're just kind of expensive though you know they are aren't they like fifty
01:04:56
dollars a lot of them are very expensive and that might mean that there is less sight for them because people don't want
01:05:02
to spend 400 on a vacuum but they're pretty soft I finally bought a
01:05:07
Dyson this weekend love can we go next can we go Dyson next yeah my dude my V10
01:05:13
animal is an animal oh there's no 100 off at Costco right now yeah worth it
01:05:19
still 400 bucks but which one do you have it was the V10 animal dude and they all have awesome names like I don't
01:05:25
think this is one that's like the V16 Jackal wait was it not called animal just because it's good at animal hair I
01:05:30
thought it had like animals because it doesn't it has an attachment I know but all of them are like the Hellboy like
01:05:36
they hold on guys and they're hyped but I I don't think they're over hyped no I might say dysons
01:05:43
are can I use my perfectly hyped on one that you guys didn't even put because the Dyson might be perfectly hyped yeah sure
01:05:51
I mean they offered to do a sponsorship for us we didn't take it and then you just bought bought it anyways because of
01:05:57
how much and then I went oh this is really great the v15 absolute oh yeah I guess I was wrong there's one called the
01:06:03
Cyclone but I assume they got crazier from there and they just don't the Omni Glide plumber all right edit that out
01:06:10
I guess it is called animal because it cleans it has an animal attachment it's like the S wedge animal attachment which
01:06:18
I don't understand why that is guess I guess I bought the wrong one because I don't get out of here well now it sounds like a dumb animal
01:06:24
time for a dog they will be perfectly hyped until they try to release that Dyson car and then we'll have to
01:06:30
reevaluate all right next question yeah portrait mode
01:06:36
overhypes I would go almost useless at this point with how big sensors are on smartphones
01:06:42
you know why it's arrived yeah sorry I was just gonna say most photos at this point on the regular camera have depth
01:06:48
of field and therefore have a better than the crabby portrait mode blur yeah I'll I'll sell I'll I'll agree yeah it
01:06:55
was a feature that was developed to for a particular moment in time try to solve
01:07:01
a problem that was only going to be a problem for a couple of years and they spent every year up until it became
01:07:06
obsolete trying to make it better and they still never got it perfect yeah I bet if we put a regular pixel photo in
01:07:14
this blind smartphone test it would have crushed everybody be people would have thought it's Portrait People would have
01:07:19
thought it was portrait mode and then thought it was the best cutout out of all of them and the best fall off and everything a lot of Zoomers will say
01:07:26
like oh can you cue portrait mode that when they literally just mean like take a normal DSLR yeah wow okay Boomer yeah
01:07:33
yeah like they don't realize that on on actual cameras it just has depth the
01:07:38
field so they ask you to like use portrait mode it's just like Boca is just portrait mode yeah yeah bokeh is
01:07:44
just perfect okay it's just portrait cool Alice
01:07:51
appropriate I want to make my last one really spicy um get some Cholula in here yeah under
01:07:58
Heights honestly
01:08:03
I think it's a Cholula yeah personally I think under hyped
01:08:13
I'd never had Cholula until I came to this office and it's like changed my life there's a Cholula bottle in every
01:08:19
Qdoba what's a Qdoba
01:08:35
well it also had it had queso before Chipotle had kids that's true Chipotle's
01:08:40
queso sucks okay so can we move on none of the Chipotle competitors will ever ever be
01:08:46
as good as Chipotle because Chipotle is popular and therefore all of this stuff in the lineup will be fresher versus
01:08:53
Pancheros Moe's you can make the same argument about Apple
01:09:01
people we're trying to see the connection here think about it clear plastic on Tech
01:09:07
products what like a clear Oh you mean like ripping it off no peeling lighting it
01:09:15
off like both classic Tech products such as the iMac G3 or contemporary Tech
01:09:22
products such as nothing I hate to say this is glass
01:09:29
over height because it's run on pure Nostalgia at this point and I think
01:09:35
we all want to have the old Nintendo purple Game Boy on our new phone but if
01:09:41
it actually came out you probably wouldn't buy that unless you were unless there's a product that you're okay with
01:09:46
being nostalgic about the thing about Nostalgia is that it only lasts until it's tacky
01:09:52
like the 80s was like an incredible like when stranger things came out everyone was like whoa 80s and like now it's
01:09:59
starting to get to the point where everyone's like I'm so freaking gets played out in Cycles yeah yeah now 90s
01:10:05
is what's coming back even though I think it's even tackier but so I will say the nothing fun is clear glass and
01:10:12
there isn't a lot of clear plastic in today's Tech I think it's mostly glass at this point
01:10:18
the ear ones are plastic there's one device oh interesting I also think might have been one of the prettiest Tech
01:10:25
products of 2022 which was the Char geek uh batteries oh yeah that have those
01:10:31
that is classic as well and they're beautiful they're really beautifully just swaying me
01:10:38
I was gonna go over with Andrew but I love those shark geek batteries me too right yeah see and that's is that
01:10:44
Nostalgia or is that just no that's not a Nostalgia like because it's like Star Trek yeah
01:10:49
designer you think all right I'm Going Under
01:10:54
I'm gonna say over because I will be correct in like three years
01:11:00
as is the way of things all right last question okay it's a big
01:11:05
one a ween boy MacBook Pros under hyped under hyped under hyped I
01:11:11
don't even use it and I know how yeah incredible silicon everyone knows about it over hyped question mark because most
01:11:19
people don't need it but for the people who do need it under
01:11:25
hyped never mind you said MacBook Pros didn't you yeah overrides just kidding
01:11:30
whoa MacBooks and like apple silicon MacBooks oh yeah under hyped MacBook Pro overrides why the distinction because I
01:11:39
think Apple silicon for just everyday laptop use and efficiency and power consumption is incredible and literally
01:11:44
anyone who wants a laptop should use that and it can probably as a non-pro handle a lot of the stuff that people
01:11:50
buying Pro stuff oh so you're on the same Pages yeah yeah sorry I I the pros are more than most people need exactly
01:11:56
yeah but for the people who need them really good I just desperately want people to start making arm-based stuff
01:12:02
and actually caring about it that's not just Apple because apple is the only one it's coming chicken in the egg windows
01:12:09
on arm is still so bad yeah you know the snap books are still so bad you know like the surface X that came out that
01:12:15
one time but they just gave up on yeah yeah well that was it that was our hypothetically speaking I love that name
01:12:22
that's a great title I'm glad we have a title now I think we
01:12:28
got to bring it back now that we have a good name yeah um but yeah that was it a lot of fun
01:12:33
random stuff this week along with the gadgets which of course we could get into the Weeds about them that's why we have a podcast as we talk for 30 minutes
01:12:40
on why the homepod 2 is slightly different from the first one either way thanks for listening thanks for watching
01:12:45
thanks for subscribing catch you guys in the next one [Music]
01:12:51
foreign
01:12:56
The Listener probably forgot we still had trivia oh yeah yeah all right so the
01:13:02
first question hello Elise was according to Apple how many times per second does
01:13:08
the homepod mini EQ itself in real time [Music]
01:13:14
released in 2020 with the S5 chip
01:13:19
you said per second per second how many times per second because it can do the whole computational audio thing where it
01:13:25
listens to itself and adjust the music and all that stuff in real time how many times per second if it does it fast
01:13:32
enough does it start having Quantum properties that was the perfect ending so I don't
01:13:39
know sure what flipping boys I said 2 000 times
01:13:44
per second one thousand ten thousand damn nice Andrew was closest so I'll
01:13:51
give him the point 180 times per second you guys way I never thought it yeah I should say a
01:13:56
thousand seems like a lot yeah that was the lowest what were the airpods too Ellis would know this
01:14:04
those are 48 000 times a second so this is what I'm saying this is why I guess ten Big Range 181 is like that ain't no
01:14:12
no no but that's not for the EQ that's for adaptive transparency so but it's
01:14:17
still sampling sound I see yeah I guess it just doesn't need to do
01:14:23
EQ that many times per second it's not like your your room is rapidly changing 100 times per second of course
01:14:29
with adaptive transparency it makes sense to be quick yeah most of human hearing happens faster than 180 times a
01:14:37
second I would hope so a typical LCD screen has a white backlight what color is the backlight on a qled display watch
01:14:44
this just be white it's not I know oh thanks it's not a trick question I'm
01:14:52
supposed to know this how many briefings have you sat through where they talk about this
01:14:58
exactly I watched like a 40-minute latest tech tips video on quantum dot
01:15:04
LED displays and I do not remember because I don't retain information see
01:15:11
[Music] flip them and read
01:15:16
I don't know I'm trying to think of the reason I said yellow because I couldn't think fast enough
01:15:23
oh I did write white and then uh said it's not white so I erased it and I
01:15:28
wrote magenta I wrote blue let's go bee I apparently do retain
01:15:34
anything why is it a blue backlight David because it gets filtered through
01:15:40
Quantum filters that it's actually it's pretty cool so when
01:15:47
you start with a white light and you need to filter out different frequencies to get to
01:15:53
uh red green blue um you know you have to filter out quite
01:15:59
a lot of the light to get those primary colors right but when you start with a blue light oh you can filter to the
01:16:04
other colors you can just slow that down to red or to red and then green or green I forgot the exact green and red yeah
01:16:10
yeah um so you lose way less light energy in um setting the color that's actually
01:16:16
really cool Isn't that cool why don't they just do that for everything because it you need so that's where the quantum
01:16:22
properties of the actual dots come in because it's one thing to just filter out a bunch of wavelengths of light it's
01:16:28
another thing to like shift wavelengths of light yeah just slowing it down a little bit so update on the score
01:16:35
Marquez with six Andrew with four David with six
01:16:40
well now I can finally outro the Pod thanks for watching thanks for listening thanks for subscribing thanks for rating
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us wherever you listen we appreciate you do you think it's generated I think we're appropriately appropriately rated
01:16:53
but for the purpose of this I'll go under hyped under it and let's fix that okay well see you guys next one peace
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Episode Highlights

  • HomePod 2: A Confusing Return
    The HomePod 2 returns with minor updates, raising questions about its market viability.
    “Why discontinue a product and then bring it back?”
    @ 01m 40s
    February 03, 2023
  • Spotify's Absence on HomePod
    The HomePod 2 lacks Spotify support, impacting its appeal in a competitive market.
    “It's crazy that the mini is still 99 though.”
    @ 08m 34s
    February 03, 2023
  • Siri's Limitations
    The HomePod's struggles are largely attributed to Siri's performance issues.
    “Siri sucks.”
    @ 13m 49s
    February 03, 2023
  • Samsung Galaxy S23 Review
    The Galaxy S23 brings small but significant upgrades, including better cameras and battery life.
    “Good things to do right with small updates.”
    @ 23m 23s
    February 03, 2023
  • Camera Upgrades in S23
    The S23 series features improved camera sensors, promising better photo quality.
    “They're claiming four times more dynamic range and improved processing.”
    @ 24m 20s
    February 03, 2023
  • Samsung's New Maintenance Mode
    A new feature that locks personal data when giving your phone for repairs, enhancing security.
    “This one little step of security is nice to know.”
    @ 33m 36s
    February 03, 2023
  • Johnny Ive's Design Legacy
    Current Johnny Ive is considered overhyped despite his impressive portfolio.
    “Current Johnny Ive is overhyped.”
    @ 42m 33s
    February 03, 2023
  • The Utility of AirTags
    AirTags are seen as one of the most useful Apple products available.
    “Air tags are like the cheapest most useful Apple product.”
    @ 58m 01s
    February 03, 2023
  • Smart Watches Popularity
    Smart watches are under hyped despite being the most popular watch on Earth.
    “I think smart watches are under hyped.”
    @ 01h 01m 07s
    February 03, 2023
  • Cholula's Impact
    Cholula hot sauce changed one person's life after trying it in the office.
    “I'd never had Cholula until I came to this office and it's like changed my life”
    @ 01h 08m 13s
    February 03, 2023
  • Nostalgia in Tech
    Nostalgia can be fleeting; it often becomes tacky over time.
    “Nostalgia only lasts until it's tacky”
    @ 01h 09m 46s
    February 03, 2023
  • MacBook Pro Discussion
    The MacBook Pro is considered under hyped for its incredible silicon.
    “The pros are more than most people need”
    @ 01h 11m 56s
    February 03, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • It's crazy that the mini is still 99 though.
    Galaxy S23 Lineup and the New HomePod
  • Samsung's updates are just small bumps, but good ones.
    Galaxy S23 Lineup and the New HomePod
  • The maintenance mode is a solid update for security.
    Galaxy S23 Lineup and the New HomePod
  • Current Johnny Ive is overhyped.
    Galaxy S23 Lineup and the New HomePod
  • Air tags are like the cheapest most useful Apple product.
    Galaxy S23 Lineup and the New HomePod
  • The pros are more than most people need.
    Galaxy S23 Lineup and the New HomePod

Key Moments

  • HomePod 2 Launch01:00
  • Pricing Debate08:34
  • Incremental Updates23:23
  • Color Opinions23:40
  • Johnny Ive Debate42:33
  • AirTags Utility58:01
  • Roomba Love1:03:30
  • Cholula Love1:08:13

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