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You could make me do anything
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>> for $900 million.
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>> I would do anything for $975 million.
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>> Yo, what is up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez.
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>> I'm Andrew.
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>> And I'm David. And it's January still,
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but that doesn't mean there's no news.
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There is some tech stuff happening
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today. We've got a huge Apple
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announcement to talk about. Uh Samsung
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Trifold's price got unveiled and we have
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some thoughts. We also uh had a US Tik
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Tok get off to a rough start and we're
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going to wrap it up with a fun game.
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>> But first, which one do you want to do
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first actually hear this?
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>> Do you want to hear me rant about uh
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Kabi Lame getting acquired? Yes. Or
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weather YouTube?
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>> I want weather YouTube.
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>> The genre weather. Weather YouTube.
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What?
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>> Weather YouTube.
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>> The genre that is weather YouTube. Oh,
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>> I want weather YouTube.
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>> I have takes. Okay, let's talk about
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weather YouTube. I think basically my
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take on weather YouTube now I'm hearing
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what you're
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>> I think
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>> I think that weather YouTube is tech
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YouTube. It is such a perfect I mean
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there's lots of um
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>> Wait, can you explain weather YouTube?
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Weather YouTube. So,
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as you may or may not have heard, we
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live in the northeast US and there's
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been a bunch of storms here recently.
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blizzards, in fact, snowstorms, which
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get really, really hype on social media.
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And if you engage with enough of these
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posts, your whole feed just becomes
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consumed with uh weather posts.
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>> How would you know this, Marquez? Well,
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cuz I'm one of those.
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>> The last episode we recorded, if Marquez
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wasn't talking, he was looking at
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weather stuff on Twitter probably.
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>> It was actually insane. And so basically
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what happens is this like this winter
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storm fern for example that we just had
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was this Super Bowl event where I got to
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witness all of the parts of weather uh
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YouTube weather social media
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meteorologist I'll put it that way on
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social media and it is there are so many
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parallels with tech YouTube I'm sure
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this is true about lots of other genres
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but here's how it goes right there's a
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bunch of the big channels right they are
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feasting they are putting out two videos
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a day talking about the different models
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and the different projections and how
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much snow you're going to get. And if
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you watch these videos, they're like 10
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minutes long. They're all neatly
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formatted and then they just go through
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and they're like, "If you live in
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Witchah, if you live in Ohio Valley, if
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you live in Northeast 95 corridor, they
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name every single city as fast as they
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can so that people who are watching feel
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like they're a part of it." They're
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really good at this. They go over the
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map. They go over the projections, how
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much snow you could or could not get.
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And since it was a big storm, people
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were watching these videos for updates
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on the models to see how much snow they
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were about to get. and it was a lot.
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That's just like a Samsung event, an
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Apple event where it's the Super Bowl
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for that genre. They all descend upon
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the place. They all talk about it.
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Everyone's thinking about maybe I should
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get this one, maybe I shouldn't. And the
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big players are all doing their thing
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like they always do and talking about
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it. Then there are the like smaller
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slashnneer or lesserknown channels that
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are all doing the same thing, but
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because there are smaller channels, they
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need to find angles to be unique in
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their coverage of the storm. Even though
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they're all covering the same storm, you
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will hear them say things like, "Oh, you
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know this I'm going to be more
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responsible than the big channels and
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tell you like you're probably not going
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to get that much snow." and they like to
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they like to talk about something that
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they found that's not in the other
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channels coverage because they need an
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angle in that way in the same way that
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we see the same thing when we make a
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video about like a big phone and then a
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week later there's a bunch of coverage
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about yeah but the big guys don't tell
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you these things and then you get the
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same sort of stuff in tech YouTube
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>> really quick I like auto started my car
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the other day and when my phone's not
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plugged in it defaults to the radio and
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as I sit in my car it's just the radio
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host was talking to their local radio
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meteorologist and she's like, "So,
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what's the deal with this storm?
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Everyone's talking about it, blah blah."
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And the meteorologist goes like, "You
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got to be careful with social media hype
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and online. Everyone wants to like scare
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you and scare tactics and that it's
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going to be huge and like you know,
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they're just doing it all for a bunch of
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views and stuff and like us
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meteorologists, we know what's going
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on." And she's like, "Oh, so what can we
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really expect?" It's good to know that.
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He's like, "It's going to be a lot.
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we're going to be and just like
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immediately says everything all the
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social media people are and I was like
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there was no point of this story at all.
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>> It is the microcosm is so real. There's
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also on weather uh YouTube there's the
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traditional channels there's the
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weather.coms and the ACE weathers and
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the NBC news weather report on YouTube
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where they will talk about it as well
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but they'll give like a much more
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highlevel uh less nuanced less personal
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version of it and then just kind of move
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on.
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>> Yeah. uh kind of like you might expect
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to see a Wall Street Journal video or a
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CNN video about the new phone, which is
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not bad. That's just a different style.
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And that's the same thing that happens
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on weather YouTube. And then it all came
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together for me with this next storm
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because as you may or may not have
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heard, we're expecting another winter
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event.
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>> My car is already based in ice. I cannot
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get it out.
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>> I can't do this again.
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>> There are a lot of people in that in
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that position right now and are thinking
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a lot about gosh, if we get more snow,
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this could be really, really bad. This
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new storm is the perfect litmus test for
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where you are on the spectrum of of uh
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weather YouTube because the storm
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according to current models as we're
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recording this on Wednesday is not
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expected to be a big storm. It's going
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to be a high drop in pressure uh off of
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the coast and it will probably snow in
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some amount in like the Virginia and
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Carolina area.
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>> Did big weather tell you to say that?
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>> Well, this is just like what we see from
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the models because that's all we have.
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This is what meteorologists do. They
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read and adjust the models and report on
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what they see. And if you go to
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weather.com
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in all caps in the at the top of the
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site, it's like bomb cyclone. Like this
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is a major weather event. Stay with us.
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You need to know the updates. If you
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read the map or any of the data, it's
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like way offshore and like we might get
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a little bit
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>> and the tiny tiny probability that the
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storm actually does like slam into New
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York City and cause major problems is
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small. But if you only pay attention to
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the clickbaity ones, you would think
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this is going to be a huge storm.
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>> So what you're saying is traditional
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media also sensationalizes things.
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>> Yes, very much so. And I'm watching the
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weather YouTubers still this week and
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they are saying a lot of they're using
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the the words like this could be a major
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event, this might be, but it seems like
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it's probably not going to be. And now
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I'm watching them all report on the same
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data, the same models, just like we all
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report on the same tech,
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>> but have very different angles on it.
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It's fascinating to watch.
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>> Interesting.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I have one question, maybe two
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questions.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um, first of all, being a weather
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YouTuber must be
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>> exhausting because one, you like we have
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our events that happen at the same time
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every year.
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>> They basically are like sitting there
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hoping for a catastrophic event.
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>> Like that's got to be painful to have to
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do all the time.
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>> Yeah. And it's also it unfolds very
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differently. Like a tech event, a launch
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event is like an hour or two on stage
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and then like the big frenzy of covering
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what happened on stage. A weather event
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is like a slow system that moves across
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the country where people want updates as
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it's going for days in a row at a time.
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They're putting out two videos a day for
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5 days straight and live streaming for
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the entire working day and making videos
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while they're live stream. It's insane.
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They're It does seem exhausting, but
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they are trying to keep people informed.
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That's the angle. keep as many people
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informed as possible.
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>> Yeah,
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>> they do have their busy season because
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we also have like monsoon season, like
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hurricane season, winter. Um, my
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question for you was does anyone use the
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weather app on Android or iOS?
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Like weather.com
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app.
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>> This has become my
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>> Wait, well, this is basically my next
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question. So, you've seged into Perfect.
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You're using the like default Android.
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>> No, no, no. Like the weather channel
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weather.com. Yeah. No,
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>> no,
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>> the UX is horrible on those websites.
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I've not really found one that's good.
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Like all the dedicated apps or just like
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even the built-in app is a much better
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UX than I don't know if the data is less
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accurate. That's the
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>> That's what I want to yell about for a
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minute. What do you want from
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>> Oh, I just wanted to ask, did anyone
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else's Weather Channel app turn blood
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red this week?
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>> As soon as I came home from work the
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other day before the storm, everything,
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all the text and UI turned red and it
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was like, it's coming. That's how the
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please come back to this app over and
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>> it's like drama alert. It's like please
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keep checking the app.
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>> Wow. Wow. That's awesome.
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>> That's crazy.
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>> No, mine was going to be about I used
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the default Pixel weather app and it
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looks beautiful. But I'm just sitting
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here. I think it was like Friday night.
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I looked at what our snow accumulation
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was supposed to be on Sunday when it was
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hit and said 15 in. I was like that's a
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lot of snow. Then Saturday it just
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decides to go to like 1 in and then
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Sunday morning there's already 3 in of
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snow outside and it's like you're going
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to get like 1 in today and then we got
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the like 15 it originally said which is
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awful. And then I'm like
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>> I must be just maybe reading this at the
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wrong times. But then Ben on 95 Google
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wrote something about how he tested all
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like seven different apps and the Google
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weather app was like just nowhere near
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what any of the other ones were and so
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bad. Does it say where it gets its data
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from? Because I think I'm sure somewhere
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Apple one says it gets it from like ac.
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Okay. Yeah. So this is my this is what
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I've observed over the years and I think
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the weather app ecosystem is super
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precarious for some reason. Most weather
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apps are super ugly. I fully on board.
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>> I was on Weather Underground and it's
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horrible.
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>> Yeah. Most like 95% of them and trust me
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there's a lot of them are super super
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ugly. There's a couple really pretty
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ones. Usually they're the stock apps
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like the Google weather app and the
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Apple weather app are like really nice
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looking.
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>> Yeah, the frog and the Google
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unfortunately are not pulling the best
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data. And I don't know why that's such a
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like hard thing for them to do because
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the one app that I trust that I think
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both looks good and lets you pick
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between good accurate data sources is
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Carrot Weather. It's only on iPhone
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unfortunately. Um, but I use Acqueeather
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data in Carrot Weather and it's very
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accurate and works really well and I can
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switch between sources and check if
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there's like discrepancies among the
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models which is a very nerdy thing to
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do, but you can if there's a big storm
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coming see what's what's happening
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there. And uh yeah, you I was finding
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that the Apple weather app was saying
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that we're going to get uh it was
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telling me at my house it would be like
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15 to 18 inches of snow and then I was
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checking carrot weather and it was
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consistent. And it was like you're going
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to get 7 in on Sat on Sunday and like 3
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in on Monday and that's exactly how much
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we got. And I was I was impressed but
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not shocked that the pretty weather apps
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were not the most accurate sadly.
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>> Yeah, that's usually how it is.
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>> I just want I want recommendations for
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an Android weather app
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that works. I swear every time I'm like,
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"Oh, I think oh Claire, the weather's
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going to be this this weekend." She's
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like, "That's not what mine says." And
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hers is always right. And I'm always
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wrong no matter what.
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>> Yeah, it's tough. I've tried Overcast. I
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haven't been in that app in a little
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while, so I can't vouch for its
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accuracy, but it is good looking.
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>> Maybe you should just make one, Andrew.
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>> Yeah, I'll just vibe code one up right
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here.
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>> You could do it. According to Twitter,
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you can do it in an hour.
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>> I'm sure Twitter thinks true.
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>> So, anyway, that's that's my my take on
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it on meteorology YouTube in January
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2026.
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>> All right,
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>> for those who are wondering,
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>> I like that.
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>> Okay, now give me the other take.
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>> The other take.
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>> The one I've been waiting for. the other
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take. So the there was also a headline
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this week that you might have seen that
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the you've probably seen him the t I
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think he's the most followed Tik Tocker
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now of all time
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>> Kabi Lame right he doesn't talk so his
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videos are extremely universal anyone
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who speaks any language can watch them
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physical comedy he does this he does the
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pointing and the shrugging and all that
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right um there was a headline this week
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that essentially he'd sold his company
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for $900 million
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>> more than one sodto That's a lot of
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money. That's more than
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>> That is a lot of money.
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>> Um, you look into it, you you dig
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deeper, you read the articles. It's it's
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more that he sold his image and likeness
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rights and the company that manages that
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stuff for $900 million of value. It's
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not a cash. It's not like he's getting
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paid $900 million, but he now has
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partial ownership of the company that
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manages all of those rights. And that
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ownership is worth somehow $900 million.
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my
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>> Wait, so his partial ownership they're
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valuing at 900 million?
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>> It seems like it. Yeah,
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>> that doesn't seem It seems insane.
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>> Correct. Is he gonna are they gonna IPO
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cab?
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>> Well, that's the question. Okay, so my
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take is that
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>> seems ridiculous, which is not even that
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hot of a take, but the secondary take is
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maybe he kind of got played or scammed a
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little bit if that's how this is going
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to go. Here's why I'll say that. Uh, we
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know that short form does not monetize
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super well. He starts on Tik Tok. He has
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an incredible following obviously, but
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still I think lifetime earnings are
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somewhere in the tens of millions of
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dollars, right? He has a YouTube
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channel. He's got social media presence
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everywhere. He'll do the Google Pixel
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event. So, we've seen him around doing
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stuff, but short form the content itself
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doesn't monetize super well.
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>> So, the article says that they're going
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to manage his his image rights. uh
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they're going to essentially have the
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right to clone him in AI and like have
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him do a whole bunch of things endlessly
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online. Uh which I worry about. That
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seems insane, but the fatigue uh may or
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may not play in. They they they plan
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they say in the articles to make $400
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million per year from his image and
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likeness.
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>> That seems incorrect. Well, it's like
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one of those things where
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you I don't know him too well, but he's
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he doesn't talk, right? And he just does
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a lot of gestures. That seems like
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something really easy to AI generate.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But the last thing I would want is a
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bunch of like
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>> we've worked with different agencies and
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stuff
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>> and we say no to so many. Imagine if an
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agency just had a program and they could
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just say yes to literally every deal
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that comes in and just throw it in the
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AI generator. And I could see them
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making a ton of money off that until
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everyone's exhausted of it because it
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gets pumped out.
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>> Yeah.
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>> 5,000 times, makes $400 million one
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year, and then nobody ever wants to see
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it.
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>> I misqued. The the press release says
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annual live commerce sales could reach
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$4 billion.
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>> Okay. I don't believe that.
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It says it. It says $4 billion. Yes, he
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has hundreds of millions of followers.
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Annual.
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>> No, this is incorrect. We're allowed to
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say anything.
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>> How many companies make four billion a
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year?
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>> Did you guys see the company name? It
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sounds fake. Rich Sparkle Holdings.
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>> Rich Sparkle.
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>> What?
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>> It's just an insane press release. And
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I'm I want to give them benefit of the
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doubt, but like the more I read about
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it, they're giving him, you know, all
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these shares in Rich Sparkle Holdings
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that they're saying are going to be
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worth $975 million because they plan on
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monetizing his likeness and making $4
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billion a year or something ridiculous
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like that. that just it none of it adds
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up.
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>> It's
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>> and I don't know what to make of it and
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it I lean towards somebody got scammed
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somewhere or is going to
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>> I feel like both of them probably got
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scammed. Um but part of it I think this
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number is for the headline. I
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>> sure
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>> I'm pretty sure I'm not 100% maybe
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somebody can correct me but when kick
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was first launching and signing a bunch
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of people we were seeing all these like
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extreamer signs gigantic multi-million
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dollar deal
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>> but it was similar of the fact of like
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>> well here's like 500,000 and here's
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shares and ownership stake with this
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evaluation blah blah blah
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>> which makes this big old number for a
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who knows if they ever make it that far
00:16:00
>> if they successfully generate 4 billion
00:16:03
dollars a year from authorizing the use
00:16:05
of one person's face ID, voice ID, and
00:16:07
behavioral models for the AI digital
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twin development.
00:16:10
>> I want,
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>> as they say, I I will give them all the
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props they
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>> I would pay to see their like pitch deck
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for this.
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>> Would you pay $4 billion?
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>> Oh, that's that might be the only way
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they make $4 billion.
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>> I'm googling companies that make $4
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billion a year. Let's see if I can find
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a Intel, not Intel, which is the 51st uh
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highest revenue by profit or by revenue
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in the United States or actually in the
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world, uh makes 3.4 billion. So, they're
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saying that he makes more profit than
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>> not makes is about to make with his
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sweet new deal.
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>> Yeah. More profit than one of the
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Fortune 51 or whatever it's called.
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Wait. And are they
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>> Fortune 500 51?
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>> This is all fake. So I don't know why
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I'm still asking questions about it.
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>> I don't know.
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>> Oh, wait. Wait. His is 900 million, but
00:17:04
they're saying they're going to make 400
00:17:05
billion. Okay. Sorry.
00:17:07
>> 4 billion.
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>> 400.
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>> Yeah. Let's be realistic.
00:17:10
>> 4 billion. What's the difference?
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>> Look, Elon's almost a trillionaire.
00:17:14
Okay.
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>> Numbers are made up.
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>> Crazy. I I am all for rooting for
00:17:17
creators. Obviously, the creator economy
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is super new and bigger king.
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>> Yeah. It's a It's very difficult to
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value these things, but this just seems
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insane. So, I saw the headline and I saw
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a lot of people echoing the headline and
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I'm like, I don't know. He's Yeah,
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>> he's got to be one of those guys that
00:17:33
like you realize is doing kind of I
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don't know why I'm going to compare him
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to Da Punk, but like
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>> you get super famous for doing a bunch
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of really welltime shrugs and he like
00:17:43
clearly that sounds dumb, but he punk
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>> he grew crazy. But like Da Punk are
00:17:49
super famous, but they have helmets so
00:17:50
they get to go out in public later. Like
00:17:52
there are types of celebrity
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>> that you just kind of nail sometimes. So
00:17:57
being able to be the guy who's just like
00:17:59
really funny making gestures is awesome
00:18:02
because it's not that much effort when
00:18:04
you're physically on the video and
00:18:06
there's no language barrier. Like what a
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smart move.
00:18:10
>> It's essentially the most successful
00:18:11
React channel of all time.
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>> Yeah, Einstein Bros are coming after him
00:18:15
>> on Tik Tok though. So
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>> is that what their name is?
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>> He's expanded though. So
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>> I don't remember what the Bros.
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>> Fine Bros.
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>> That was the throwbo react. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:25
He starts on Tik Tok. He's got hundreds
00:18:26
of millions of followers. He also, like
00:18:29
we've seen, has branched out and done
00:18:31
short form YouTube. He's done Instagram.
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He's done events. Obviously,
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>> Google thinks he's well known and
00:18:37
trustworthy enough to be involved with
00:18:40
the Pixel presentation. That's a revenue
00:18:43
stream in some way. So,
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>> at least they're not worried about him
00:18:45
saying anything controversial.
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>> Yeah, exactly. So, uh actually, I
00:18:49
remember being backstage with him before
00:18:51
he went on stage and he didn't say a
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word.
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We're very on brand.
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>> He's on brand.
00:18:56
>> Yeah. Um, so anyway, it is it is a
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confusing headline and I've I have
00:19:01
nothing but confusing thoughts on it.
00:19:03
>> I'm sure he's going to make a ton of
00:19:05
money no matter what. So,
00:19:06
>> yeah,
00:19:07
>> you'll be good. Um, wait, can I
00:19:10
can I have another if we're in rant mode
00:19:12
right now?
00:19:13
>> Okay, send it.
00:19:13
>> I'll figure out something to rant about.
00:19:15
Okay, this is something that has been
00:19:18
happening to me on my phone and I can't
00:19:20
tell if it's recent or if it's always
00:19:22
been like that, but I think it's a
00:19:23
recent change.
00:19:24
>> Okay.
00:19:24
>> Okay. So, I've realized in the last
00:19:27
month or so if you're using the uh
00:19:30
search Google search widget on Pixel,
00:19:32
you're going to try it on your OnePlus
00:19:34
>> and I want to just get a picture of
00:19:36
something because I love finding
00:19:38
pictures and putting it in like Slack or
00:19:40
text message. So, I'm just going to
00:19:41
search disc golf. Then you go to Google
00:19:44
images.
00:19:45
>> At this point, any of these images I
00:19:47
click click, I can't just download the
00:19:49
photo.
00:19:50
>> You hold on to it, right?
00:19:53
>> I have the chance to save to collection
00:19:56
share, which lets me copy a link to a
00:19:59
Google photos like link
00:20:01
>> um or Google images link and then I have
00:20:03
all my apps that normally like can share
00:20:05
in um and then other than that it's
00:20:08
search with image, Google lens or
00:20:10
report. Even now they have all these
00:20:12
overlay things that I used to just take
00:20:14
screenshots.
00:20:15
>> But if you tap it, don't they go away?
00:20:18
>> Nope.
00:20:18
>> Oh well.
00:20:20
>> So can I not just download a picture in
00:20:23
the Google search bar anymore? This is
00:20:25
>> Is it going to yours?
00:20:26
>> It's gone in for
00:20:27
>> It used to be there, right? You have to
00:20:29
go into a browser,
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>> Google Google images, and you can
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download from a browser, but I can't
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from
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>> inification.
00:20:39
Okay, stupid. They want you to they want
00:20:41
everyone to stay in the Google app so
00:20:42
that when you send them the link it just
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opens the Google app.
00:20:46
>> Yeah. I mean the download feature has
00:20:47
been buried for a while. Like it used to
00:20:50
be layers deep like multiple clicks. And
00:20:52
I would usually take a screenshot
00:20:53
because it was easier than trying to
00:20:54
figure out how to download the image.
00:20:56
>> I we need to start a new segment just
00:20:58
called
00:20:59
>> Hey Google, I hate you.
00:21:00
>> So I I hit the button that says save to
00:21:02
collections. I don't know.
00:21:03
>> Yeah. Wait, where does it go?
00:21:05
>> What is that? I went I went into the
00:21:06
settings and I found that there if you
00:21:08
scroll down enough is saves and
00:21:10
collections which apparently I have
00:21:11
>> they're trying to make the Google I bet
00:21:12
you have a bunch of different
00:21:13
collections.
00:21:14
>> They're trying to make that an entire OS
00:21:15
that you just like stay in forever.
00:21:18
>> I don't know when I save the 5D Mark III
00:21:21
or the Mac Pro. I don't know. I was here
00:21:24
10 years ago.
00:21:25
>> Uh okay. And then can I download it? Is
00:21:28
that
00:21:28
>> No.
00:21:28
>> Nope.
00:21:29
>> You can't download it from your
00:21:30
collection.
00:21:30
>> I can't download it from my collection,
00:21:32
>> you know.
00:21:32
>> Yeah. That's weird. That is weird. It's
00:21:34
called
00:21:35
>> keeping you on platform.
00:21:36
>> Is that recent? You used to be able to
00:21:38
download from that, right?
00:21:39
>> I think I just downloaded a picture like
00:21:41
the other day.
00:21:42
>> I from inside of the Google app, I
00:21:46
believe. So,
00:21:46
>> yeah, like from like using the search
00:21:48
bar.
00:21:48
>> If I do this in Chrome, is that
00:21:49
>> Cuz that's how I search everything from
00:21:51
the search bar. I think there might be a
00:21:53
way to make it so the search bar always
00:21:54
opens in a browser window.
00:21:57
Default.
00:21:58
>> It's not the default. So, I haven't
00:21:59
changed it since this new.
00:22:00
>> This is what they do. They get enough
00:22:01
people using it and addicted to it and
00:22:03
then they make it worse.
00:22:05
>> Yeah, but it's hard to get addicted to
00:22:07
it when it sucks so bad in the first
00:22:09
place.
00:22:09
>> Well, you said you always search things
00:22:11
through it. So,
00:22:11
>> Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. You're saying I got
00:22:14
addicted when it
00:22:15
>> already addicted and then they're just
00:22:16
like slowly destroying it.
00:22:19
>> Yeah. Some engineer at Google was like
00:22:21
we can keep time in app up. My thought
00:22:25
was the opposite of we're Google, we're
00:22:27
focused so much on other things that we
00:22:29
keep forgetting about all the basic
00:22:30
functions of our apps and breaking them
00:22:32
in the process.
00:22:33
>> I know they intentionally did not let
00:22:35
you get rid of that widget on Android
00:22:36
for a very long time. People were very
00:22:39
annoyed at that for a very long time.
00:22:40
>> I don't think the typical rules about
00:22:42
Google management apply to search.
00:22:44
>> They are very
00:22:46
>> Yeah. How many teams inside of search?
00:22:48
I'm saying less of more just this the
00:22:50
team that makes the download feature
00:22:52
just forgot about it or got moved
00:22:54
somewhere else.
00:22:55
>> Download a room full of spiderw webs
00:22:58
right now.
00:22:58
>> I mean there's a reason like in the
00:23:00
Reddit app when you take a screenshot
00:23:02
it's like hey do you want to just share
00:23:04
share sheet share sheet open a Reddit
00:23:06
link. Open a Reddit link. They're doing
00:23:07
the same thing.
00:23:08
>> Same thing with Spotify.
00:23:09
>> Practically what it is Spotify is
00:23:10
wrapped when you try to take a
00:23:11
screenshot of it. It's like it's like
00:23:13
>> use the built-in please. It's
00:23:15
guaranteeing that at least half the
00:23:18
people never click that link, though.
00:23:19
Cuz even if any of you were to send me a
00:23:22
a tweet or a Tik Tok, if the preview of
00:23:24
it doesn't show up, that I kind of know
00:23:26
what's going to be in that link, I'm
00:23:28
sorry, I'm not clicking the link.
00:23:29
>> That's true for you. But I think that
00:23:31
normal people probably they they don't
00:23:34
want to keep searching through how can I
00:23:36
download this, how can I download this?
00:23:37
Like if it pops up and it's like share
00:23:38
this link, they're like, okay.
00:23:40
>> Oh man,
00:23:40
>> definitely. Well, what I'm saying is on
00:23:42
the receiving end, if I just get a no
00:23:44
context text that just says
00:23:47
share.phos.google
00:23:50
for like 10 characters
00:23:52
>> and no preview of what I'm not
00:23:55
probably delete system 32 probably.
00:23:56
Yeah,
00:23:57
>> I'm about that screenshot life. I think
00:23:59
I would just screenshot.
00:24:00
>> People are very nervous about about
00:24:01
scams now. I understand. So
00:24:03
>> yeah,
00:24:04
>> that is a good rant, Andrew. Quality
00:24:05
rant. Quity rant.
00:24:07
>> David, what's your rant?
00:24:07
>> I don't know. I didn't really come up
00:24:08
with one. What about uh can rant about
00:24:10
the air tag? Do you want to rant about
00:24:12
>> Wait, can we rant? Can we rant about how
00:24:14
somehow none of us knew that BBK
00:24:16
disbanded 3 years ago?
00:24:17
>> Oh yes.
00:24:18
>> How how were we unaware of this? I feel
00:24:22
really stupid. What exactly?
00:24:23
>> We should have known. It didn't change
00:24:25
when we mentioned OnePlus last, but when
00:24:28
that that shout out to whoever there was
00:24:30
like one person on Reddit and one person
00:24:31
on our comments that posted it and I
00:24:34
read it, I was like, "No, that guy's
00:24:36
just wrong. There's no way." And then I
00:24:38
read it. It was like 3 years ago. I was
00:24:39
like, "Wow."
00:24:40
>> So now it's just OPPO and Vivo and those
00:24:43
still have subbrands called OnePlus and
00:24:45
Realme, etc.
00:24:46
>> For people that don't know, there was a
00:24:47
umbrella brand around OPPO, OnePlus, and
00:24:50
Vivo called BBK Electronics for a very
00:24:52
long time. Um, apparently 3 years ago,
00:24:55
it disbanded. I did not know this. None
00:24:57
of us knew this. I don't know why we
00:24:58
didn't know this. Um, some random
00:25:01
Redditor did know this and told us we
00:25:02
were wrong.
00:25:03
>> Yeah, I think those two are still
00:25:04
probably under some sort of conglomerate
00:25:06
or whatever. Definitely when they do
00:25:09
these reorganizations, it's really just
00:25:10
for optics. Like there are things
00:25:12
happening like it's it's sort of like
00:25:13
how OnePlus for a very long time was
00:25:16
like we're not part of we're not part of
00:25:17
OPPO. up Art of Oppo
00:25:20
or how Hassablad tries to really really
00:25:22
really really hard to pretend that
00:25:24
they're not owned by DJI and then when
00:25:27
you send your Hassablad in for repair it
00:25:28
goes to the DJI facility
00:25:30
>> or how Google was like we are actually
00:25:32
part of Alphabet now and you're like
00:25:34
what's Alphabet and you're like Google
00:25:37
>> that's true
00:25:38
>> okay
00:25:38
>> that is true it's all naming it's all
00:25:41
naming yeah
00:25:42
>> um yeah that's
00:25:43
>> a shout out to you for uh shout out to
00:25:45
the us Okay. Um, just do a story, big
00:25:50
news. Apple, you know, often has one of
00:25:53
those weeks where it just releases a ton
00:25:55
of press releases, one per day. It's a
00:25:57
big week. It's huge. Usually big
00:25:59
products, you know, new MacBook, new
00:26:01
iPad. This week we got another Air Tag
00:26:05
that looks the same. Um, it's just
00:26:08
updated. They look the same.
00:26:10
>> Can I yell about this?
00:26:12
>> It does not look the same.
00:26:14
the Texas capital.
00:26:16
I just want to yell real quick because
00:26:18
when we were planning our schedule for
00:26:19
last week, we had like fully top of mind
00:26:22
Apple has something happening Monday
00:26:24
morning. There's a meeting on Marquez's
00:26:26
calendar. We don't know what it is.
00:26:28
>> And then we all hit you up after like,
00:26:30
"Okay, Marquez, what happened?" As you
00:26:31
were on your way into the office and you
00:26:32
were like, "New Air Tags." And I was
00:26:34
like, "You got to be kidding me."
00:26:36
>> I But like you were saying, they usually
00:26:38
do around this time like a week of
00:26:39
updates. So, I was like, "Air tag
00:26:42
Monday, perfect start." It's usually
00:26:44
something small.
00:26:45
>> They did apparently update Final Cut Pro
00:26:46
today.
00:26:46
>> Oh,
00:26:47
>> with like three new features.
00:26:48
>> Yeah. All the the Creator Studio stuff
00:26:50
is out now.
00:26:51
>> Yeah.
00:26:52
>> And uh all the updates to things like
00:26:54
Final Cut and Pages and Motion and all
00:26:56
that. They're all out. Final Cut has a
00:26:58
couple new features, like a terrible new
00:26:59
logo.
00:27:00
>> Well, there's the logo for the Creator
00:27:02
Studio version, which is horrible, which
00:27:04
is purple.
00:27:05
>> We didn't talk about that the one time.
00:27:06
The Creator Studio. meant to talk about
00:27:08
this when we talked about Creator
00:27:09
Studio. All of the icons are like in
00:27:12
disccernible. They're just like bold
00:27:14
colors with like a few lines.
00:27:16
>> It's interesting cuz I kind of think
00:27:18
that might work. You just associate a
00:27:21
color with the app now. Like Final Cut's
00:27:23
the purple one
00:27:24
>> in the same way that like you know Word,
00:27:26
Excel, and PowerPoint are their certain
00:27:28
colors. Like Excel is the green one. I
00:27:29
just
00:27:30
>> same with Adobe. Photoshop is blue.
00:27:32
Yeah. Just click it. That's what they
00:27:33
were thinking. might have given Apple
00:27:35
the benefit of the doubt with liquid
00:27:37
glass, but considering they've just been
00:27:39
proven to be wrong now, I don't know if
00:27:41
I'm going to give them the benefit of
00:27:42
the doubt with this one.
00:27:44
>> One,
00:27:44
>> I finally updated my Mac and I actually
00:27:46
really like Liquid Glass on it.
00:27:48
>> I hate to say that out loud
00:27:49
>> on the desktop.
00:27:50
>> On the desktop. I can't imagine on a
00:27:51
phone, but
00:27:53
I'm correct in saying that Creator
00:27:56
Studio is all the new logos, but old are
00:27:58
still all the old logos. So, you
00:28:00
technically could have two different
00:28:02
Final Cut logos on your computer.
00:28:05
>> Yes,
00:28:05
>> that's
00:28:06
>> It would be silly of you to buy both.
00:28:08
>> But yes,
00:28:08
>> I guess you can only ever have the
00:28:10
purple ones if you have all of them. So,
00:28:11
it would make no sense not to have it
00:28:13
>> all of them match.
00:28:15
>> You open if I have Final Cut cuz I
00:28:18
already bought legacy Final Cut. I have
00:28:20
the old Final Cut logo and I spent $400
00:28:22
on it. There's no reason for me to also
00:28:24
buy the new thing. But if I ever do,
00:28:26
then I also have Final Cut Pro for I
00:28:30
forget the exact name, but I I literally
00:28:32
have a purple Final Cut for Creator
00:28:33
Studio. Yeah, studio edition.
00:28:35
>> And then if you like do Spotlight search
00:28:36
and open up Final Cut, which one opens?
00:28:38
>> Uh they'll show both. You got to pick
00:28:40
the one that you want.
00:28:41
>> I mean, that's the same. It's the same
00:28:42
with like Lightroom and Lightroom
00:28:43
Classic. It's very annoying.
00:28:44
>> I know. And it's annoying.
00:28:45
>> It's annoying. I Yeah. Did they So the
00:28:48
features that they added today, were
00:28:50
those only to the Creator Studio
00:28:52
version?
00:28:52
>> Not everything. Okay, good. because I
00:28:54
know they're doing that for like numbers
00:28:56
and pages for some reason that everybody
00:28:58
uses.
00:28:59
>> The way it was framed to me was the the
00:29:01
productivity apps do have the split
00:29:02
between the AI content and the creative
00:29:04
stuff and the traditional version. The
00:29:06
creative apps, the Final Cuts and
00:29:08
Motions and stuff uh are the same with
00:29:10
either version.
00:29:11
>> Interesting.
00:29:11
>> And if you want to get the bundle,
00:29:13
obviously you get everything, but like
00:29:14
why would you get Final Cut and not want
00:29:16
all the stuff? So thankfully, this is
00:29:18
this is to Apple's credit. If I spent
00:29:20
the $400 or whatever it was 10, 15 years
00:29:23
ago on Final Cut Pro, I'm still getting
00:29:25
all of the features,
00:29:26
>> right?
00:29:26
>> So, that's good. That's good.
00:29:27
>> What if you spent the $29 on an Air Tag?
00:29:30
>> Well, then you're getting a new speaker,
00:29:31
baby. A brand new Can I play the sound
00:29:33
for you guys?
00:29:35
>> What is it? Used to be in C and now it's
00:29:37
in G or something. I'll break it down
00:29:39
for you.
00:29:39
>> Charlie Booth here.
00:29:40
>> The new second generation Air Tag has a
00:29:43
slightly longer precision finding range,
00:29:46
slightly better Bluetooth chip.
00:29:47
>> Yeah. And it's now a 1.8 decel louder
00:29:51
speaker, I believe. And it changed the
00:29:54
note from an F F
00:29:56
>> to a G to a G.
00:29:58
>> Observe. Oh, you have both. You recorded
00:30:01
both.
00:30:02
That's the old one,
00:30:04
>> correct?
00:30:05
>> Yeah. Which is nothing like
00:30:08
this new one.
00:30:13
>> M.
00:30:14
>> That is higher.
00:30:16
little more piercing.
00:30:17
>> Your dogs are going to freak the hell
00:30:19
out.
00:30:19
>> I know you guys are going to say, "Ooh,
00:30:21
innovation is dead. This is the same
00:30:23
thing."
00:30:24
>> But like this is so much better. This is
00:30:27
more piercing. It's going to carry
00:30:29
further. It's going to be able You can
00:30:31
find this further away. The ladder. This
00:30:33
is This is why it's the news of the
00:30:35
year, honestly. To me,
00:30:36
>> I know we were thinking OLED MacBook Pro
00:30:38
and like them killing like other
00:30:40
products and the folding iPhone, but
00:30:41
this this is what we were waiting for.
00:30:44
>> Totally worth a meeting. They didn't
00:30:45
change the price. They give us all of
00:30:47
this for the same price.
00:30:48
>> When I'm stealing people's purses now
00:30:51
and I steal a purse that has capital
00:30:53
letters on their attack, I'm like, give
00:30:54
it right back. You're going to find me
00:30:56
way too fast.
00:30:58
>> Lower case. Oh my.
00:30:59
>> Oh, you got the new one. Oh my god. Yes.
00:31:02
>> I want that F.
00:31:03
>> I thought you were going to say if you
00:31:04
stole it and it was the old one, you're
00:31:06
like, "Ah, you must be poor. You didn't
00:31:07
buy."
00:31:08
>> Um, so why would I steal your purse
00:31:10
anyway?
00:31:10
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a huge change. Did
00:31:13
you know you can find it up to 50%
00:31:14
further away? That's the difference
00:31:16
between being able to find someone
00:31:17
inside a movie theater and outside a
00:31:19
movie theater.
00:31:21
>> You know, maybe
00:31:22
>> sometimes I wish Apple did
00:31:24
>> video events for all their products cuz
00:31:26
I would love to see how much they hype
00:31:28
this up on stage.
00:31:29
>> I feel like audio listeners think I'm
00:31:31
serious cuz they can't see my face and
00:31:32
it's I just want to be clear all this is
00:31:34
sarcasm, but it is this is the this is
00:31:37
the press release from Apple. This is
00:31:38
the new thing.
00:31:39
>> I can't believe you didn't get anything
00:31:40
else. I'm waiting for a card shaped one.
00:31:43
>> That's what I was used to do.
00:31:44
>> That's what I was saying. Like Ridge has
00:31:46
made a card- shaped one and everybody
00:31:47
else is making different shaped ones for
00:31:49
different places. Like the card one on
00:31:50
the wallet is the obvious thing
00:31:51
>> and they just made a new Air Tag with
00:31:53
like slightly better specs or whatever,
00:31:55
honestly. But why are they not trying
00:31:57
anything? Like Air Tags clearly are
00:31:59
working well enough for them to continue
00:32:00
to update it. Why not expand a little
00:32:03
bit?
00:32:03
>> Make it flat.
00:32:04
>> Make it flat.
00:32:05
>> I want it small.
00:32:07
>> Until then, you'll have to go to Ridge
00:32:08
for that. I guess
00:32:09
>> it's kind of crazy. Like if if you go to
00:32:10
the Apple website, it's nowhere on the
00:32:12
front page. You have to go to the
00:32:14
accessories section.
00:32:15
>> Is that crazy? Is that crazy?
00:32:17
>> I don't know. I feel like
00:32:18
>> I kind of actually think it is.
00:32:19
>> Honestly, I think Air tags are insanely
00:32:21
popular.
00:32:22
>> Yeah. The front page of Apple.
00:32:24
>> Yeah, but there's a So there are a lot
00:32:26
of people who will just buy the new
00:32:28
thing.
00:32:28
>> Wait, this is kind of a bar.
00:32:29
>> This is what was lost is now sound.
00:32:31
>> I mean, they always have good taglines.
00:32:33
>> That's kind of
00:32:34
>> air tag lines.
00:32:35
>> Yeah.
00:32:36
>> I don't know. It just says new.
00:32:42
>> Yeah,
00:32:42
>> you are able to now find it with your
00:32:44
Apple Watch precision finding thing on
00:32:47
the Apple Watch Series 9 and later and
00:32:48
Apple Watch Ultra 2 and later. So,
00:32:51
>> you know, your wrist can vibrate when
00:32:53
you get close to something.
00:32:54
>> Oh,
00:32:55
>> it's like hot and cold.
00:32:57
>> Hotter, colder.
00:32:59
>> Find my friends.
00:33:01
Anyway, um
00:33:02
>> you're just at the bar and like the
00:33:04
crowd and you're like,
00:33:05
>> "Yeah,
00:33:06
>> got him."
00:33:06
>> Yeah, the the I will say the um the
00:33:10
wallet tag would have been a good idea
00:33:13
for them. I don't know why they haven't
00:33:15
done that yet.
00:33:16
>> Oh, I know. Cuz you just use the MagSafe
00:33:18
wallet so it's always on your phone
00:33:20
anyway. So, you would never lose it.
00:33:21
>> That's what if it What if the magnet
00:33:23
pops it off?
00:33:24
>> The Mag Safe wallet also Well, the new
00:33:25
ones also have Find My The new Mags Safe
00:33:28
Wallets. No.
00:33:28
>> Oh, yeah. The wallet itself has
00:33:30
>> the wallet itself.
00:33:31
>> So that means they've created something
00:33:33
that can in that form factor already.
00:33:35
>> Yeah, I wondered that too.
00:33:37
>> Are you sure it's not just that when
00:33:40
it's on your phone, it tracks its
00:33:41
Bluetooth location
00:33:42
>> and that like when it disconnects
00:33:43
>> and when it disconnects, it shows you
00:33:44
the last Nomad had sent us their
00:33:46
trackable wallets. I think they were the
00:33:48
first ones to do the find my uh wallet
00:33:50
cards, not wallets, wallet cards. And uh
00:33:53
I tried to charge mine a couple days ago
00:33:55
and it just it's not it's
00:33:57
>> got to get the one. does not charge.
00:33:59
>> The original one's way better.
00:34:00
>> I think all of these are quite fickle.
00:34:02
>> Wow. Marquez, how much did they pay you
00:34:03
to say that?
00:34:04
>> I'm shilling. Okay, let me shill.
00:34:06
>> Let me shill in peace.
00:34:08
>> Just big hashtag.
00:34:09
>> It does wireless charge. So if it ever
00:34:11
>> Yeah, they all they're all like mag safe
00:34:13
wireless charging, but like the I don't
00:34:15
know. I imagine the they break pretty
00:34:17
easily like all of them cuz they're so
00:34:19
thin. I don't know. Who knows? You can
00:34:21
get this if you want to.
00:34:23
trying to
00:34:24
>> No, literally goes in your wallet next
00:34:26
to your whatever other cards you have
00:34:27
and it's just like if you ever leave
00:34:28
your wallet behind, you'll just know
00:34:29
that you can find it.
00:34:30
>> Yeah, that's
00:34:31
>> except there was like this whole era
00:34:33
where all wallets were advertised as
00:34:35
RFID blocking.
00:34:37
>> My wallet is RFID blocking. And so
00:34:40
>> does RFID though block all the other
00:34:42
>> all radio frequencies?
00:34:44
>> Radio frequency infrared.
00:34:45
>> So
00:34:46
>> what is RFID?
00:34:47
>> Radio frequency identification.
00:34:50
>> Infrared. RF radio frequency
00:34:52
identification.
00:34:53
>> Yeah. All radio frequencies.
00:34:55
>> All of them.
00:34:56
>> Yeah. Whoa.
00:34:57
>> It was so people couldn't just walk by
00:34:59
you and scan your um that's why they
00:35:01
added the chip because everybody had the
00:35:04
the stripe on the on their credit card
00:35:06
and people were just like stealing their
00:35:07
credit card information.
00:35:09
>> So, they made all these RFID blocking
00:35:11
wallets. And I have a really old wallet
00:35:13
cuz like what do you need to replace
00:35:14
your wallet unless it literally
00:35:15
explodes? And uh yeah. Yeah. Now it's
00:35:19
hard to find my wallet.
00:35:20
>> Got it. Got it. Got it. So,
00:35:22
>> well, it does have a speaker in it, so
00:35:23
if you ever do need to chime
00:35:25
>> Yeah, but it has to send the signal to
00:35:27
the thing to chime the speaker.
00:35:29
>> Oh, interesting. Interesting.
00:35:30
>> Yeah.
00:35:31
>> Wow.
00:35:31
>> Yeah.
00:35:32
>> Okay.
00:35:33
>> Anyway,
00:35:35
>> now that these credit cards have a chip,
00:35:37
you don't need RFID wallets anymore, I
00:35:38
guess. So,
00:35:39
>> sick.
00:35:40
>> Um, this is not financial advice.
00:35:43
>> Anyway,
00:35:43
>> that's our rant for the first part of
00:35:44
the podcast.
00:35:45
>> That's our rant episode. Um, make sure
00:35:48
to find your friend's Air Tags inside or
00:35:51
outside of movie theaters.
00:35:52
>> And if you ever hear that new chime, you
00:35:54
know it's gone down.
00:35:55
>> Also, quick update. It does only know
00:35:58
the last location after it separates
00:36:00
from your phone.
00:36:00
>> Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes more sense.
00:36:02
That's just the phone.
00:36:04
>> Yeah. Okay, that makes sense.
00:36:06
>> Cool. Well, um, we'll take a quick
00:36:08
break. We're going to talk about the
00:36:09
trifold again
00:36:11
>> for real for real this time on God. Uh,
00:36:14
and then we are going to talk about Tik
00:36:16
Tok being state sponsored media.
00:36:18
>> But first,
00:36:19
>> but first trivia.
00:36:25
>> Oh, wait. Also, before we continue,
00:36:26
Mariah's here.
00:36:28
>> True.
00:36:29
>> Hello, Mariah. She spoke.
00:36:31
>> Yeah,
00:36:31
>> I know.
00:36:33
>> I've been known to speak.
00:36:35
>> Unlike some people who make $900
00:36:37
million.
00:36:40
>> Take that. All right. I'm going to
00:36:42
apologize in advance. I'm not going to
00:36:44
lie. Um, so this is an Ellis question
00:36:47
and this is going to require some brain,
00:36:49
big brain energy.
00:36:51
>> Okay,
00:36:51
>> I'm going to read this out to you and
00:36:52
then I can help explain it. Ellis's
00:36:54
question for you is uh, well, I guess
00:36:57
it's less of a question.
00:36:59
>> It's not even a question. He's literally
00:37:01
>> he's just telling us something.
00:37:02
>> He He literally gave you a task. Okay.
00:37:04
So, he said, "Whoever can spell the
00:37:07
longest word using only letters that are
00:37:11
also names of Apple silicon chips gets
00:37:15
the points." So, so we have the M series
00:37:17
chip. We have like an R series T. So,
00:37:20
I'll give you all of the chip series
00:37:23
letters and then you
00:37:24
>> And it only uses those letters.
00:37:26
>> Yeah. So, I have like an anagram
00:37:28
generator and I have to see who can
00:37:29
spell the longest word using only
00:37:32
>> Okay.
00:37:33
>> the chips. This is his evil thing he
00:37:35
wants to do to you, not my choice. So,
00:37:37
if you want to drop these down
00:37:38
>> Mhm.
00:37:40
>> A
00:37:40
>> A Yep.
00:37:42
>> M
00:37:42
>> M
00:37:43
>> R
00:37:44
>> R
00:37:45
>> S T C U W N.
00:37:52
>> Wow, that is a lot.
00:37:53
>> I knew four of those. I would have been
00:37:54
screwed.
00:37:55
>> That almost spells Amsterdam.
00:37:58
Very close. Are you right?
00:38:01
>> Uh
00:38:01
>> like if I squinted, it would look like I
00:38:03
said Amsterdam.
00:38:04
>> Yeah, it's the same. Anyway, so uh this
00:38:07
is going to take some brain juice. So we
00:38:09
can revisit this later and uh I don't
00:38:12
know what you're going to spell with
00:38:13
this.
00:38:14
>> Are we allowed to use proper nouns?
00:38:16
>> Uh
00:38:17
>> why dictionary words?
00:38:18
>> Let me check the list.
00:38:19
>> You're going to put someone's name.
00:38:20
>> It's got to be scrambled out.
00:38:21
>> Macron.
00:38:23
>> Honestly, whoever gets the coolest
00:38:24
answer, I'll give you the point.
00:38:27
Ellis isn't here. I can do what I want.
00:38:29
>> We will think about that for sure.
00:38:31
>> I'm so sorry.
00:38:32
>> A lot of work.
00:38:33
>> Yeah, answers at the end like usual.
00:38:34
We'll be right back.
00:38:34
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welcome back. We got to maybe we should
00:39:47
just rant again. We got to talk about
00:39:48
this trifold again. And we're talking
00:39:50
about it because Samsung did finally
00:39:52
announce the US price and availability
00:39:55
of the Samsung Galaxy Trifold.
00:39:58
>> I don't know if I remember what our
00:39:59
guesses were for it. We were kind of
00:40:01
thinking like
00:40:02
>> $1,000 aside or something like that,
00:40:04
>> which is not that far off,
00:40:06
>> right? Cuz like a flagship's a,000 and
00:40:07
then like an a folding flagship is is
00:40:09
like
00:40:10
>> 1,800 2,000ish. So, the US price for the
00:40:14
Trifold is $2,899
00:40:18
and it's available only from Samsung.
00:40:20
It's not going to be in carrier stores
00:40:21
or anything like that. You just got to
00:40:22
go to samsung.com or get it straight
00:40:24
from the US, Samsung store.
00:40:26
>> Yeah.
00:40:26
>> Uh $966 per fold
00:40:29
>> at three flagships.
00:40:32
>> Here's the thing. I really like this
00:40:34
phone. Um, but as many people have
00:40:37
pointed out, there are so many things
00:40:39
you can get for $2,899. And I will push
00:40:42
back on the people saying you could just
00:40:43
get a phone and a tablet. Well, duh.
00:40:46
That's the point. The Trifold is for the
00:40:48
people who don't want two devices. They
00:40:50
want it all in one device. So, I I'm
00:40:52
seeing that. And I think it's a very
00:40:54
usable phone with just the one. I don't
00:40:56
use it as often as a two, but then wide
00:40:58
open with three. It's an awesome tablet.
00:41:00
I've really liked it. You can't
00:41:01
>> I think you can't even use it as a two.
00:41:03
Well, it's not supposed to use as a two.
00:41:05
The Huawei you can use as a two. It gets
00:41:07
kind of mad.
00:41:08
>> Um
00:41:09
>> and then you fold it wide open and it's
00:41:10
the three and it's like this is the
00:41:11
greatest thing ever invented. But $2,899
00:41:14
is a lot of money. Obviously for tax,
00:41:17
you got to ship it.
00:41:18
>> Uh would you get a trifold for $2,899?
00:41:23
No.
00:41:23
>> No.
00:41:24
>> You have to be in the small very picky
00:41:26
group who really wants this phone to
00:41:28
spend that much on it. I do think the
00:41:29
price is kind of an intentional barrier.
00:41:32
Uh, and it got a lot of people also
00:41:33
thinking about how much is the iPhone
00:41:36
fold going to cost because it's not
00:41:37
going to be a trifold. It's just going
00:41:38
to be a regular fold competing against
00:41:40
all the other $15 to $1,900 folds. Are
00:41:44
they going to price it over all of those
00:41:46
or right in the middle?
00:41:47
>> I'm interested, but I don't think this
00:41:49
has any context or is relevant to what
00:41:52
the iPhone Fold is going to cost. Just
00:41:54
such a different phone in every aspect.
00:41:56
>> Yeah, the iPhone Fold is going to be
00:41:57
more similar to the original Pixel Fold,
00:41:59
like shorter passport style. Um there's
00:42:01
a strong rumor that Samsung is actually
00:42:04
working on a competitor fold that is
00:42:06
shorter um to compete
00:42:08
with Samsung and they're going to come
00:42:11
out before probably
00:42:12
>> which would mean Samsung would have like
00:42:13
four foldable phones which is almost as
00:42:15
many phones as their regular phones.
00:42:17
>> They're literally like the leader in
00:42:18
folding phones and then Apple still
00:42:20
makes the first one. We should copy
00:42:22
that.
00:42:22
>> That's crazy. kind of it would be the
00:42:24
same thing as when they made the Galaxy
00:42:26
they announced the Galaxy S25 Edge
00:42:29
before the iPhone Air.
00:42:30
>> Yeah, cuz they knew it was coming.
00:42:32
>> Yeah, they knew it was coming and they
00:42:33
got ahead of it and made the thing
00:42:35
>> and I could see them also doing that and
00:42:36
beating the iPhone Fold to this form
00:42:39
factor.
00:42:39
>> True.
00:42:40
>> It is interest. I just think it's
00:42:41
relevant because Samsung, this is a real
00:42:43
phone that Samsung's going to sell. It's
00:42:45
like raised the ceiling for a price that
00:42:46
you can pay on a phone. And before this,
00:42:48
if you asked me what might Apple charge
00:42:51
for their fold, I would have said
00:42:52
probably right around $18.99.
00:42:54
>> 1999.
00:42:55
>> But now that this exists, I feel like
00:42:58
it's going to be over 2,000.
00:42:59
>> Yeah. I said my guess is $21.99. It's my
00:43:02
guess.
00:43:02
>> Really?
00:43:03
>> That seems very possible.
00:43:04
>> Mhm.
00:43:06
>> That that seems possible.
00:43:07
>> The trifold to me is more in line with
00:43:09
when Apple sold the Vision Pro.
00:43:12
>> It's like they don't expect people to
00:43:13
buy it. So, I feel like when Apple Yeah.
00:43:16
releases the Fold, they're actually
00:43:18
they're actually gonna want people to
00:43:20
buy it. So, I don't know if it's going
00:43:21
to be as
00:43:23
>> high priced. I bet the margins on the
00:43:25
trifold are not great. And I bet they
00:43:28
don't want to sell a whole ton of them.
00:43:29
They want to be seen as leaders in the
00:43:31
space and like generate the hype. This
00:43:34
is probably selling more regular folds
00:43:37
>> just because people are like, "Wow,
00:43:39
that's crazy, but it is pretty cool. I'm
00:43:40
just going to buy the
00:43:41
>> Do you guys think that the iPhone Fold
00:43:43
is going to be able to run iPad apps?
00:43:45
>> That is a whole another question. Uh,
00:43:49
>> is it going to run iOS or iPad OS? Like,
00:43:51
how innovative is Apple going to get
00:43:52
with the Fold? I think
00:43:55
>> God, wow.
00:43:57
>> I think or what do I want?
00:43:59
>> Well, I definitely want iPad OS when
00:44:01
it's unfolded. I want all the things,
00:44:03
but it's it's only going to be we're
00:44:05
thinking like an 8 in screen, like an
00:44:06
iPad mini size. I guess that's fine.
00:44:08
>> What is the size of the iPad mini
00:44:09
screen? Seven and change.
00:44:10
>> So it'll be bigger. Roughly the same.
00:44:13
Yeah.
00:44:13
>> And they can run iPad OS.
00:44:15
>> They can run iPad OS. But then the thing
00:44:17
is when you close it, does it switch OS?
00:44:20
No way. It's got to be the same. Like
00:44:22
>> isn't iPad OS just iOS but with some
00:44:24
like tweaks?
00:44:25
>> Yeah. But all the window management
00:44:26
stuff that's going on, all of the
00:44:28
multitasking stuff, I don't picture them
00:44:31
allowing you to use that on the smaller
00:44:33
folded closed. Okay.
00:44:35
>> So how do you manage that?
00:44:36
>> It's separate.
00:44:37
>> Yeah. You know how like on the fold uh
00:44:39
you can have like your home screen
00:44:40
layout on the front separate than the
00:44:42
inside. I don't
00:44:43
>> think you got the taskbar on Android now
00:44:46
when you open the foldable phone you've
00:44:47
got like the little task bar on the
00:44:49
bottom that's not when you close it.
00:44:51
>> That's true.
00:44:51
>> So they could do that.
00:44:52
>> Yeah.
00:44:53
>> So a couple So that's kind of like
00:44:55
managed like you open the phone cuz I
00:44:57
really like the pixel fold thing where
00:44:58
it was all continuity all the time. your
00:45:01
home screen setup. When you change it on
00:45:03
the close screen, when you open it, that
00:45:05
would just be your two screens the way
00:45:08
you set them up on the close screen.
00:45:10
>> And then any app that you'd used on the
00:45:12
closed screen, you open it up, it would
00:45:13
continue using it on the it would just
00:45:14
go back and forth. Everything would stay
00:45:16
on.
00:45:17
>> I liked that.
00:45:18
>> I wonder if that's how Apple would do
00:45:21
it.
00:45:22
>> You know, they should just make a merged
00:45:23
OS. They can call it the same thing
00:45:25
forever. They could just call it OSX,
00:45:27
you know, like X. It's a perfect name to
00:45:30
be used forever for all of their Oh, I
00:45:32
have terrible news. I forgot.
00:45:35
>> That's kind of the direction that Google
00:45:37
is going with an Android with the Pixel
00:45:39
stuff, though. It's like the front
00:45:40
screen and the inside screen are just
00:45:42
one continuous like
00:45:44
>> operating system thing. I think that
00:45:46
plays in their favor because there
00:45:47
aren't a lot of Android tablet apps.
00:45:50
>> Apple does not have that problem. Apple
00:45:52
has a lot of iPad apps. So, they could
00:45:54
just separate the two completely and
00:45:56
have the front screen do iPhone, middle
00:45:58
or inside screen do iPad. I'm completely
00:46:01
just coming out of my ass here. So,
00:46:02
>> there's so many questions that I have
00:46:05
because of that. Like, if I have an app
00:46:07
installed that's an iPad app and I open
00:46:09
it with the screen open, obviously it
00:46:11
opens the iPad version. If I close it
00:46:12
and have the smaller screen, is that
00:46:14
gone?
00:46:15
>> Yeah, it's just like
00:46:16
>> it's gone. They're just on using an
00:46:18
iPhone now.
00:46:19
>> So, it just feels like
00:46:20
>> I think it feels like two different
00:46:21
devices. I don't think they want I think
00:46:23
they want it to feel as
00:46:25
>> fluid as possible. like all the all the
00:46:27
early folds. I think the idea was you
00:46:30
would expand your screen like you go
00:46:33
from having one screen you're texting
00:46:35
somebody I got to flip to the big screen
00:46:36
you open it now it's texting on the big
00:46:38
screen and it feels continuous and and
00:46:40
that was like
00:46:41
>> but you could still do that particular
00:46:43
thing
00:46:44
>> with iPhone and iPad OS you know like
00:46:47
some of the apps are going to be
00:46:48
continuous but I think in general they
00:46:50
want it to be and this is again me just
00:46:53
completely theorizing I think they want
00:46:55
it to be two different experiences you
00:46:56
use the iPhone part of it and then when
00:46:58
You want to do something a little bit
00:46:59
more powerful that requires an iPad app,
00:47:01
you open it up.
00:47:01
>> I don't think they like that in one
00:47:03
singular device, different experiences.
00:47:06
I don't think they're going to The more
00:47:07
you talk about this, the more I think
00:47:09
there's no shot they do it.
00:47:10
>> Multiple experience in one device. It's
00:47:12
a phone. It's an iPod. It's a
00:47:14
communication.
00:47:16
>> I thought they loved that. I thought
00:47:17
they loved that. I I just think that
00:47:19
well I guess there's two things Apple
00:47:21
sells to people who want the simplicity
00:47:24
of experience but also people buying a
00:47:26
2000 something dollar folding phone are
00:47:29
not the usual iPhone customer. Maybe
00:47:31
those people are cool with having a
00:47:32
little more flexibility or
00:47:33
customization.
00:47:34
>> Flexibility
00:47:35
>> cool like that.
00:47:36
>> Flexibility. Yeah. So I I don't know. I
00:47:38
I kind of lean towards Andrew. Like I
00:47:40
think they probably want it to be as
00:47:42
simple and fluid as possible. Open,
00:47:44
close, big, small. Like the same thing
00:47:46
just big or small. That's the same as
00:47:48
Android though. Like you're you're just
00:47:49
doing what the fold already does, what
00:47:51
the Pixel Fold already does.
00:47:53
>> Yeah.
00:47:53
>> I don't think Apple would do that
00:47:54
personally.
00:47:55
>> Well, yeah, because they just do the
00:47:56
thing that Android does, but it's iOS.
00:47:59
>> Yeah, but now they also iPad OS. That's
00:48:01
what I'm saying. Like Android doesn't
00:48:02
have that to fall back on.
00:48:04
>> I think that Apple generally does a good
00:48:06
job of knowing what to do with the new
00:48:08
stuff. Like Android and all the Android
00:48:11
manufacturers tend to give you stuff
00:48:13
before they know what to do with it.
00:48:15
Although Apple did not do that with the
00:48:17
Vision Pro. Uh but with a lot of their
00:48:19
stuff, you know, they wait longer, but
00:48:21
then when they actually ship it, they're
00:48:22
like, "Look at all these useful things
00:48:24
you can do that that way you like test
00:48:26
it and deploy it and they all work with
00:48:27
your current ecosystem and whatever." I
00:48:30
feel like they're probably going to have
00:48:31
special use cases for the foldable phone
00:48:34
cuz otherwise I I don't know. Most
00:48:36
iPhone users that I talk to are like,
00:48:38
>> I don't care about foldable phone. Why
00:48:40
would I want a foldable phone? Yeah,
00:48:41
there's got to be something some reason
00:48:44
that you get the foldable. Like
00:48:45
something that you can do on the
00:48:46
foldable that you can't do on the
00:48:48
regular iPhone. Bigger screen is is one
00:48:50
thing obviously, but I want I want
00:48:52
productiv I want something that that
00:48:54
there can be a commercial about or some
00:48:56
use case or demo of like that's why I
00:48:58
want the full
00:48:59
>> like iPad OS apps.
00:49:00
>> You want Final Cut Pro on that inside
00:49:02
screen.
00:49:02
>> That's what I want.
00:49:03
>> Someone's going to do that. Someone's
00:49:04
going to do that.
00:49:05
>> Hey man.
00:49:06
>> Yeah. Wait. Literally Final Cut Pro for
00:49:07
iPad. So can you Jesus? Well, that's
00:49:09
immediately what I thought. I said
00:49:11
>> we can't.
00:49:12
>> It is touch oriented. It's touch first.
00:49:14
>> Yeah, it's Final Cut for iPad now.
00:49:16
>> I'm just saying.
00:49:16
>> Damn.
00:49:17
>> You should edit the main channel video
00:49:20
>> with your finger on an 8 in screen.
00:49:21
Yeah.
00:49:22
>> Now that I'm picturing Final Cut Pro in
00:49:24
my pocket, I don't think I don't want it
00:49:26
anymore.
00:49:27
>> I don't think that's a good idea.
00:49:29
>> I just don't see them releasing this
00:49:30
product and being like, it's the same
00:49:32
thing that's already out, just iPhone
00:49:34
now.
00:49:34
>> Oh, I that's exactly how I see them
00:49:36
doing it. Oh, yeah. Well, they don't say
00:49:38
that. They go all day battery life.
00:49:41
>> Although when the iPad first came out,
00:49:44
it was just iPhone but bigger.
00:49:46
>> Yeah.
00:49:46
>> Like literally,
00:49:47
>> it was horrible.
00:49:47
>> It was literally just iPhone but bigger.
00:49:49
>> Yeah. Same size.
00:49:50
>> Computer but smaller. I feel like
00:49:52
>> Yeah, cuz it's evolved a lot.
00:49:54
>> It's It went from like why are these
00:49:55
icons so far apart? Why does this look
00:49:57
like my And you open an iPhone app and
00:49:59
it would just go it would be a huge
00:50:00
version of it.
00:50:01
>> And they've evolved much since then, but
00:50:03
now they could be in a similar spot
00:50:04
where they don't exactly know which
00:50:06
direction to go. Do they lean more
00:50:07
computer? They lean more simplicity.
00:50:09
What if we just give them iPhone but
00:50:11
bigger and then see what people start
00:50:12
doing with it and asking for and then
00:50:14
>> and then go from there.
00:50:15
>> For a very long time they were very
00:50:16
focused on selling you three separate
00:50:18
devices and now there's the rumors of
00:50:20
the MacBook with the touchcreen coming
00:50:22
out. And I just and then also the iPad
00:50:24
they have actually souped up to be like
00:50:26
a workable computer now with iPad OS
00:50:28
whatever it is 26.
00:50:30
>> I'm just picturing like ven diagrams
00:50:32
slowly coming
00:50:33
>> slowly emerging. Yeah. Do you want the
00:50:35
phone that's also an iPad, the iPad
00:50:36
that's also a laptop, or the laptop
00:50:38
that's also a phone?
00:50:39
>> What was the trivia question the other
00:50:40
day? Pad phone or phone pad?
00:50:44
>> It does make sense. Vision Pro is all
00:50:46
the things
00:50:47
>> is
00:50:49
strapped to your face. Strapped to your
00:50:50
face.
00:50:51
>> 5 lbs.
00:50:52
>> I have a question for you guys.
00:50:53
>> Do you want a touchcreen MacBook Pro?
00:50:55
>> Yes.
00:50:55
>> You're using a MacBook Pro. You do want
00:50:56
a touchcreen.
00:50:57
>> Yeah,
00:50:58
>> I like I like touchcreen laptops,
00:51:00
weirdly.
00:51:00
>> Mariah, you have a MacBook Pro.
00:51:02
>> I think it's fun. Touchcreen is fun.
00:51:04
>> I used to have like a Dell XPS that was
00:51:06
like the 4K touchscreen and it was just
00:51:09
I like would never practically use it,
00:51:11
but I think it's a novelty.
00:51:13
>> I don't know how much extra I would pay
00:51:14
for it, but there are times like
00:51:16
literally sitting in the pod here where
00:51:17
I'd like to just like take my finger and
00:51:19
scroll on the outline.
00:51:20
>> That's the thing. I think people think
00:51:22
completely like, oh, I'm just going to
00:51:23
be using it as a tablet and just tapping
00:51:25
the screen and seeing it wobble and
00:51:27
yeah, it's not for that. It's just for
00:51:28
like three times you're sitting on the
00:51:30
couch and you just want to scroll with
00:51:31
your thumb really quickly
00:51:32
>> in Photoshop. Being able to like
00:51:35
>> turn things, rotate things, zoom in.
00:51:37
It's very helpful. I used to love that
00:51:39
on my I mean it look pencil support they
00:51:42
should just do on the on the trackpad.
00:51:44
The trackpad's so massive they can
00:51:46
easily turn it into a drawing tablet.
00:51:47
They should have done that 10 years ago.
00:51:49
>> Are we just reverse engineering the two
00:51:51
in one laptop or the laptop completely
00:51:53
full?
00:51:53
>> How dare you?
00:51:54
>> I think it's a full circle.
00:51:57
Nobody wants you. Nobody wants that.
00:51:59
>> That was a weird era and I I do remember
00:52:02
a lot of those things.
00:52:03
>> Lenovo Yoga.
00:52:04
>> My mom still has one and they do the
00:52:06
job.
00:52:06
>> All of my uh Bitcoin that I that I mined
00:52:09
in 2012 is on a Lenovo Yoga book. Nine
00:52:13
eye orange clementine orange color.
00:52:16
>> Something's telling me you have like
00:52:17
5,000 Bitcoin on
00:52:19
>> I was worth 45 cents. Yeah,
00:52:22
>> it was worth like a penny. It was like
00:52:25
very low.
00:52:26
>> I am I guess while we're on the topic, I
00:52:29
am not sure that I want a touchcreen
00:52:31
MacBook Pro. I've never really wanted to
00:52:33
use a touchcreen on laptops I've had in
00:52:35
the past that have touchcreens. Um, it
00:52:37
really is like the once in a while
00:52:39
scroll or hit a button thing and I
00:52:41
wouldn't pay extra for that. I would be
00:52:42
very happy to not have that and save
00:52:44
money. I already have to clean my
00:52:46
MacBook display all the time, so I'm
00:52:48
okay with
00:52:49
>> I just don't think it's that new
00:52:50
technology that it would raise the price
00:52:52
that much anymore. Like we've had these
00:52:54
for a decade now. Like they could just
00:52:55
do it and it'll be fine.
00:52:56
>> Well, I think isn't the rumor it's
00:52:57
supposed to be like an OLED touchcreen?
00:52:59
Like it's gonna be a brand new display
00:53:00
technology. This really really cool
00:53:02
display. And also it's the first
00:53:04
>> and also it's Apple selling it so
00:53:06
they're going to charge more for
00:53:07
>> Hell yeah.
00:53:08
>> Yeah. Come on.
00:53:09
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:10
>> You think I mean
00:53:11
>> storage and RAM has cost that much to
00:53:13
Apple? Yeah.
00:53:15
>> The control center on Mac OS now. It
00:53:18
looks like it's meant to be touched. It
00:53:20
looks just like the iPad. So, at this
00:53:22
point, it doesn't seem like they have
00:53:23
that much work to do to get to a
00:53:25
touchcreen laptop. I just don't love the
00:53:27
wobble and the fingerprints and the
00:53:29
weird inconsistent stuff going on. So,
00:53:31
I'm not thrilled about it, but I'll I'll
00:53:34
watch and learn and see if they they
00:53:36
have any features or interesting things
00:53:37
I'm interested in. I have a feeling I
00:53:38
have a feeling I'm just going to want
00:53:40
the new OLED
00:53:41
>> and I'm going to get it
00:53:42
>> and then it happens to be a touchcreen
00:53:44
and I'm probably not going to
00:53:45
>> What if it's OLED plus anti-glare? I'm
00:53:47
gonna be so happy. But please, it
00:53:50
probably won't be.
00:53:51
>> Yeah, because isn't the anti-glare?
00:53:52
>> It's kind of
00:53:53
>> really hard to clean. Yeah.
00:53:54
>> Well, and it also like it kind of cuts
00:53:56
the light output. So,
00:53:57
>> speaking of anti-glare.
00:53:59
>> Oh,
00:54:01
okay. Well, we were supposed that was
00:54:02
supposed to be a Samsung trifold
00:54:04
conversation. It was,
00:54:05
>> but we got there. But yes, speaking of
00:54:07
anti-glare, we have some interesting
00:54:09
Galaxy X26 teaser information.
00:54:13
>> X26.
00:54:13
>> Yeah, S26
00:54:14
>> S. It's like, okay, S26 teaser.
00:54:17
Apparently, it's going to have a privacy
00:54:20
display, which will not just be a film
00:54:22
that goes over your phone that you know
00:54:24
how people have those uh the the screen
00:54:26
protector things that they put on their
00:54:28
phone and you try to read their phone
00:54:29
over their shoulder on the subway and
00:54:30
you're like, why can't I read their
00:54:32
screen?
00:54:32
>> It looks like it's blank.
00:54:33
>> It's annoying.
00:54:34
>> Excuse me, sir. Could you tilt that a
00:54:35
little? I'm trying to read your text.
00:54:37
>> Dude, it's so fun.
00:54:39
>> What's wrong with you, bro? Don't read
00:54:41
their stuff. It's so fun watching people
00:54:43
like
00:54:43
>> it is sometimes hard to look away. Like
00:54:45
someone will be like standing or sitting
00:54:47
in front of you and you don't want to
00:54:48
look but it's just they're just it's
00:54:50
right there and you're like literally
00:54:52
I'm just like cramped up and he's
00:54:53
holding his phone like this and he's on
00:54:55
Facebook dating
00:54:56
>> and he's 65 years old.
00:54:58
>> Dude, mind your own business. You crazy.
00:55:00
>> I can't. It's in front of me. I was very
00:55:02
against this feature until just
00:55:05
>> So what's the feature? The feature I'm
00:55:07
exaggerating. Some people have said that
00:55:09
Samsung is going to be enabling a
00:55:10
privacy mode feature where you get a new
00:55:13
notification and it blacks out just the
00:55:18
notification area from off-axis viewing.
00:55:20
So, just to be clear, Samsung announced
00:55:22
that they had a press release out with
00:55:24
these kind of like teaser videos of like
00:55:27
a person on a subway and it would it
00:55:29
would pop up and show like the your
00:55:31
password swipe uh and then it would turn
00:55:34
it to the side and you couldn't see it
00:55:35
or a a popup would come out on where you
00:55:38
enter your password and then it would
00:55:39
turn and you couldn't see just that
00:55:40
>> and then it just zooms in on David's
00:55:42
face.
00:55:43
>> Disappointed to be clear because sarcasm
00:55:46
does not go on the internet. I only saw
00:55:48
someone's dating app once and it was
00:55:50
Facebook dating. It was very funny. But
00:55:51
I don't generally look at people's
00:55:53
phones,
00:55:54
>> but I have seen this the privacy screen
00:55:55
protector many times. I've thought about
00:55:57
getting them and then I put one on my
00:55:59
phone and it it just destroys the
00:56:01
display quality
00:56:02
>> and I look at I look at it from 2° off
00:56:05
axis and it's starting to turn gray and
00:56:06
I'm like so I don't love them. This
00:56:08
would be hardware level and software
00:56:10
level built in.
00:56:11
>> They need to do what the Nintendo 3DS
00:56:12
did where it tracks your eyes. So, if
00:56:14
you're looking at your phone from the
00:56:16
side, it still, you know, does not
00:56:18
polarize it. You know, that would be
00:56:20
really helpful because I'm not always
00:56:21
looking at my phone straight on. You
00:56:23
know what? If it's on the table and I
00:56:24
want to look at the notification, it's
00:56:26
just black. Well, here's It seems like
00:56:27
it's customizable because they say, this
00:56:30
is from their uh press releases. A new
00:56:33
layer of privacy to shield your phone
00:56:34
from shoulder surfing wherever you go.
00:56:36
So, from David Al wherever you go. Um,
00:56:38
and then says uh multiple settings for
00:56:40
adjusting visibility. You can limit what
00:56:42
others can see based on the level of
00:56:44
privacy protection you need. You can
00:56:46
also choose to protect specific parts of
00:56:47
your experience such as notification pop
00:56:49
popups. It's tailor. It's a tailored
00:56:51
approach that you can fine-tune or
00:56:53
switch off entirely rather than a
00:56:55
blanket one. So, if you're worried about
00:56:57
that, you can have it turned off. I'm
00:56:59
assuming it might be like a quick
00:57:01
setting because that would be nice to be
00:57:02
like, I'm at home. Don't do it. I'm on
00:57:04
the bus. Quick setting privacy mode.
00:57:06
>> So, David's standing behind me.
00:57:08
>> Yeah.
00:57:09
>> Turn it off. My David Air Tag is going
00:57:11
off.
00:57:12
>> I'm wondering how this works. I'm
00:57:13
guessing that they have some sort of
00:57:14
like polarization layer that they can
00:57:17
turn on with like electricity or
00:57:20
something and it just does that area.
00:57:21
Did they explain how it works?
00:57:23
>> No, but I would guess.
00:57:24
>> But it's sim it's probably similar to
00:57:26
the way that they work in like the
00:57:27
really fancy hotels how the the showers
00:57:30
can like turn black all of a sudden.
00:57:31
>> Frosted. There was apparently something
00:57:33
at MWC 2025 called Flex Magic Pixel OLED
00:57:37
that some people are wondering if that's
00:57:39
going to be the technology. But Samsung
00:57:41
has not officially
00:57:43
>> I'll do you one better. If you've seen
00:57:44
uh the Escalade IQ or one of those new
00:57:47
Cadillacs where there's a passenger
00:57:48
screen,
00:57:50
>> but from the driver's seat, you can't
00:57:52
see anything on the passenger screen
00:57:53
because it's uh
00:57:55
>> distracting.
00:57:56
>> No, it's because it's polarized. It's
00:57:58
black. It looks but it's that you're not
00:58:01
like watching but you can turn that on
00:58:03
and off.
00:58:04
>> Okay.
00:58:04
>> So if it's it turns on when you're
00:58:06
driving or when you're in the driver
00:58:07
seat whatever and you can turn that
00:58:08
display on and off but you can turn the
00:58:09
polarization on and off.
00:58:10
>> What is that? Piso electric. Is that
00:58:12
what they call that?
00:58:13
>> I think that's more the like tinting
00:58:14
sunroofs are are electrochromic or
00:58:18
something like that.
00:58:19
>> It's probably some sort of polarization
00:58:21
through electric current.
00:58:23
>> Either way, the ability to turn it on
00:58:24
and off built into the display.
00:58:26
>> Yeah.
00:58:26
>> At a like a hardware level. display
00:58:29
replacements for this phone are going to
00:58:30
be like $400.
00:58:32
>> Yeah. So, it's it's interesting because
00:58:33
it seems like a really cool feature and
00:58:34
there's all these headlines in the past
00:58:36
about, oh wow, Samsung looks like the
00:58:37
S26 is going to be basically the same as
00:58:39
the S25. Camera should be the same, like
00:58:41
specs are just going to bump up like
00:58:43
usual, but this is a genuinely new and
00:58:45
impressive feature, but it will also be
00:58:49
more expensive to do this. And I wonder
00:58:51
like what that does to the rest of the
00:58:52
phone and also repair costs. I just want
00:58:54
to be able to attach this to like a
00:58:56
Samsung routine or something so that it
00:58:58
like automatically turns on when you're
00:59:00
commuting.
00:59:00
>> I'm sure off when you're home. I don't
00:59:02
know cuz routines is like hit or miss
00:59:03
with what it'll let you do.
00:59:04
>> That's true. I just recently was like
00:59:06
moving my fridge around in my garage and
00:59:08
it's one of those Samsung fridges with a
00:59:09
screen on it cuz I didn't like it
00:59:11
anymore. But I
00:59:11
>> Oh, I was like, why does your garage
00:59:13
fridge?
00:59:14
>> It was the fridge that came with the
00:59:15
house and I hated it and I moved it to
00:59:17
the garage and and I still have this
00:59:19
freezer where I keep my lunches and
00:59:20
forget them every day. Uh, but it has
00:59:22
like the Samsung like smart things,
00:59:24
Bixby, whatever, and it just turns on.
00:59:27
It's like it basically only gets
00:59:29
accidentally triggered. Like I'll I'll
00:59:30
open the door and then like the light
00:59:32
blinds me. I'm like, "Why does the
00:59:33
fridge have a light?"
00:59:34
>> Uh, but yeah, those those features
00:59:36
hardly ever work. So, it is a very a
00:59:38
valid assumption that this could also
00:59:40
not quite work.
00:59:41
>> Yeah. Question for you guys.
00:59:43
>> Will the S26 series have G2?
00:59:46
>> Yes.
00:59:48
>> 100%.
00:59:49
G2%
00:59:51
G2 ready.
00:59:51
>> 102%.
00:59:52
>> So like you have a case and you slap it
00:59:54
on.
00:59:55
>> Really? G2 ready. G2.
00:59:58
>> That's G2.
00:59:58
>> That's what I think. It's
00:59:59
>> G2 magnet in the phone. I'm saying it's
01:00:01
going to have it
01:00:02
>> like Pixel Snap and Mag like Google
01:00:05
added it last year. So they Samsung has
01:00:08
to. They're competing with Google.
01:00:10
>> Really hope so.
01:00:11
>> They're going to
01:00:13
>> It wouldn't shock me if it was G2 ready.
01:00:15
>> I'm from the future and it has G2. Oh
01:00:18
god, I hope so.
01:00:18
>> Please tell me it's brighter over there
01:00:22
>> in the future. I got bad news for you. I
01:00:25
got bad news. Speaking of bad news,
01:00:27
>> the future has a private screen on it.
01:00:28
Andrew, you can't see anything. Anyway,
01:00:31
uh speaking of bad news, Wait, what is
01:00:33
the next thing we're going to talk
01:00:34
about? Bad news. Tik Tok.
01:00:35
>> Oh, no. This is good news, my friend.
01:00:37
This is very good news because everybody
01:00:38
is leaving this. Okay, we got to talk
01:00:41
about Tik Tok again. We talked about Tik
01:00:43
Tok multiple times last year uh because
01:00:46
you know the during the Biden
01:00:48
administration they Congress passed an
01:00:50
act that said they had to sell it or
01:00:51
divest it all this stuff. It got delayed
01:00:54
delayed delayed delay. Okay, now we
01:00:57
finally entered the darkness zone which
01:00:59
is the area where um it did get divested
01:01:03
um to all Trump's friends uh Oracle and
01:01:06
a bunch of other investors.
01:01:09
So now 19.9% is still owned by Bite
01:01:12
Dance. Um 80.1 is owned by Silverlake
01:01:15
Oracle, MGX, Michael Dell's investment
01:01:18
firm, and a bunch of individual
01:01:20
investors. In the first couple of days
01:01:22
of the changeover, there were some uh
01:01:24
pretty massive loading issues. People
01:01:26
are not able to load certain videos. If
01:01:28
you published videos, it was showing
01:01:29
zero views for a very long period of
01:01:31
time. Um it was not great. Oracle has
01:01:34
since come out and blamed that on a
01:01:36
power issue.
01:01:38
Sure. Uh, it's coming full circle. There
01:01:41
was a blizzard. I was watching blizzard
01:01:43
YouTube.
01:01:44
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
01:01:44
>> There's power outages in Texas. Yeah.
01:01:46
>> Power outages.
01:01:46
>> I was going to say, is there data center
01:01:48
in Texas?
01:01:48
>> I have no idea.
01:01:49
>> I don't know. Probably might as
01:01:50
>> well be. Um, also, people have been
01:01:52
noticing a lot of banned words in the
01:01:54
DMs. Um, this is kind of all over the
01:01:57
place. The Pop Crave, I think, did like
01:01:59
a story on this that was like kind of
01:02:00
true, but also kind of not true, but
01:02:02
also it's affecting people differently.
01:02:04
But if you say some individual words
01:02:06
like test or Epstein, uh, it blocks your
01:02:10
DMs.
01:02:11
>> Both of which failed for me when I
01:02:12
tested it.
01:02:13
>> Did you do just the singular word?
01:02:14
>> I did just the singular word.
01:02:16
>> So, what was confusing is The Verge did
01:02:17
an article testing it where a lot of
01:02:20
singular words being sent in were not
01:02:22
sending. But then I saw another test of
01:02:24
someone else using some of those words
01:02:25
in sentences and it also was saying
01:02:27
something about community guidelines.
01:02:29
So,
01:02:30
>> it's all so confusing and messed up. And
01:02:33
in the midst of this like data center
01:02:35
outage or whatever with the zero posts
01:02:37
and it's been a rough start for us Tik
01:02:41
Tok.
01:02:41
>> I'm just going to say like there's a lot
01:02:43
of conspiracy theories like buzzing up
01:02:45
that they already changed the algorithm.
01:02:46
They're already suppressing your speech.
01:02:48
And like while I think this is probably
01:02:50
incompetence, I also think they won't
01:02:53
not suppress your speech. So you should
01:02:54
probably just get off this platform. I
01:02:56
had a question about this because wasn't
01:02:58
the whole point of this about the
01:02:59
algorithm?
01:03:00
>> Mariah
01:03:01
>> was like to keep the algorithm.
01:03:03
>> It is quite cold in here. So Mariah has
01:03:05
bundled up accordingly. Uh yeah. Isn't
01:03:07
this the same? Like do do they have the
01:03:10
algorithm yet? Have they taken that away
01:03:11
from biking?
01:03:12
>> They said that they they have a modified
01:03:14
algorithm. Yes.
01:03:14
>> What does that mean?
01:03:15
>> It
01:03:17
means they don't know, dude. They don't
01:03:19
they don't know
01:03:20
>> your brain a little faster,
01:03:21
>> a little bit differently. It's like the
01:03:23
the sprite from McDonald's versus
01:03:24
regular sprite. Well, we all know that's
01:03:26
better.
01:03:28
>> His algorithm is a McDonald's sprite.
01:03:30
>> So, a lot of people are leaving the
01:03:32
platform to go trying to move to this
01:03:34
platform called Upscrolled. Um, which
01:03:38
>> advertises itself as like being free of
01:03:41
moderation. And when you go on
01:03:43
Upscrolled, you can see why. There are a
01:03:45
lot of
01:03:46
>> photos that you don't want to see on
01:03:48
there um immediately. It kind of just
01:03:50
looks like Instagram, too. I don't
01:03:52
really know why they're moving to this
01:03:53
specific app when there are many other
01:03:54
ones. I will say there's an app called
01:03:56
Skylight that's on the AAT protocol that
01:03:59
Blue Sky also uses. If we're look, I'm
01:04:02
against short form content in general,
01:04:04
but if we are going to move to another
01:04:06
short form content platform,
01:04:07
>> we're going to Red Note, baby.
01:04:10
>> Why don't they just go back to Red? I
01:04:12
They already have plat they already have
01:04:13
users on it. Um maybe just try one that
01:04:16
is can't be owned by billionaires. Maybe
01:04:18
that would be great. We tried this. I
01:04:20
suggest YouTube.
01:04:22
>> No billionaires there.
01:04:23
>> Can't be owned by billionaire.
01:04:25
>> Yeah, YouTube does have a good track
01:04:26
record. You know, if they would just pay
01:04:28
people a little bit more for for shorts,
01:04:30
that'd be great. Um,
01:04:32
>> yeah,
01:04:32
>> I mean,
01:04:33
>> the incentives align with YouTube. So,
01:04:34
>> YouTube would be a better option than
01:04:36
than Tik Tok. Anyway, as you said on
01:04:39
Slack the other day when this happened,
01:04:41
a lot of people are just going to go
01:04:43
over to Upcrol, see that it sucks, and
01:04:44
then just go right back into Tik Tok's
01:04:46
arms.
01:04:47
>> They're going to do that. It's sad.
01:04:50
>> I I have one other thing about uh Tik
01:04:52
Tok. There was like also a lot of posts
01:04:54
not just of words being blocked, but of
01:04:57
like these policy changes and about the
01:05:00
kind of your privacy and what you would
01:05:02
have to uh I guess fill out. There's
01:05:05
like immigration status and stuff on it,
01:05:07
>> but that was there before.
01:05:08
>> That was there before.
01:05:09
>> Yeah. There's Sarah Perez from Techrunch
01:05:12
did a really great article going over
01:05:13
all the things that were there weren't
01:05:15
there and also the super one of the it's
01:05:20
very nuanced. One of the things was
01:05:21
apparently there's a law passed in
01:05:22
California where certain things needed
01:05:24
to be fixed and I think those things had
01:05:26
to get fixed before the selling to
01:05:29
Oracle and everything and some of those
01:05:31
may have changed. Go read her article.
01:05:33
It explains it all. It's very long to
01:05:36
actually hear figure out what all of it
01:05:37
is. But it's there's a lot of
01:05:39
incompetence going here.
01:05:41
>> Yeah.
01:05:42
>> Both incompetence and also just
01:05:44
>> it's incompetence from a bunch of people
01:05:46
I don't trust. So yeah,
01:05:47
>> the com the the crazy combination of
01:05:49
like stupidity and malice is just making
01:05:52
this whole thing really bad.
01:05:53
>> So I would maybe think about YouTube or
01:05:56
or Skylight.
01:05:58
>> This is the problem with social media in
01:06:01
general right now. And I thought threads
01:06:02
was gonna help fix this with like
01:06:04
actually federating.
01:06:05
>> I thought Mark was gonna fix it all.
01:06:07
>> That's the whole point of us doing all
01:06:08
these episodes like two years ago at
01:06:10
this point to like to avoid things like
01:06:12
this happening where one platform gets
01:06:14
taken over or you don't agree with
01:06:16
something and you're just like
01:06:17
>> that's when they thought they had
01:06:18
competition.
01:06:19
>> Do you know how I could tell David's not
01:06:21
actually from the future?
01:06:22
>> Why?
01:06:22
>> Cuz he still thinks the Fedverse is
01:06:24
going to work.
01:06:25
>> Yeah.
01:06:26
>> Wow.
01:06:26
>> Got him.
01:06:27
>> Damn. Um, yeah, Threads basically
01:06:30
stopped their federation efforts and I'm
01:06:32
very upset about it. Anyway, Tik Tok
01:06:35
sucks.
01:06:37
Uh, I say as someone who's never used
01:06:40
it,
01:06:41
>> so I'm clearly the the
01:06:43
>> As someone who is is using Tik Tok, it
01:06:45
is definitely kind of broken. I posted a
01:06:47
short uh two days ago or something and
01:06:49
it has like a 50th of the views that it
01:06:52
typically would get. So, I'm obser and
01:06:54
the views kind of froze 24 hours ago and
01:06:56
haven't gone up. So something's cold
01:06:58
out, man.
01:07:00
>> Facts. Facts.
01:07:00
>> I froze 24 hours ago.
01:07:02
>> Mariah is currently freezing.
01:07:04
>> Yeah, she is the view counter on this
01:07:05
TikTok. It was like uh one and a half
01:07:07
million views average and this one has
01:07:09
29,000 views and was stuck there for 24
01:07:11
hours. I don't know what's going on over
01:07:12
there. Something's broken. Hopefully
01:07:13
they fix it soon and then like
01:07:15
>> get it working again and we can all keep
01:07:18
doom scrolling.
01:07:19
>> Rot our brains.
01:07:20
>> Yeah.
01:07:22
Speaking of brain rot,
01:07:26
>> time to use our brains.
01:07:29
>> Not for this one. Well, kind of. Okay,
01:07:31
>> we just spoke about Samsung.
01:07:33
>> Yeah,
01:07:33
>> they make a lot of things. Displays,
01:07:36
phones, refrigerators,
01:07:38
uh, washer machines. What kind of
01:07:40
machine is the Samsung SE130 LC-2?
01:07:45
>> What?
01:07:46
It's probably a bulldozer or something.
01:07:49
Samsung is literally the entire economy
01:07:51
of a country. I think they could make
01:07:53
>> any literally you could just name
01:07:55
anything and it would be like oh yeah
01:07:56
Samsung makes that
01:07:57
>> I will take the category. So if you give
01:07:58
me the category of thing
01:08:00
>> oh tech
01:08:01
>> machines
01:08:02
>> yeah not that broad
01:08:04
>> Samsung makes it okay. Wow.
01:08:06
>> That is good trivia. I have no clue. So
01:08:09
we're I hope you guys also don't know
01:08:11
and then we'll all learn something
01:08:12
today. Bulldozer is not pro not that bad
01:08:14
of a excavator.
01:08:17
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>> All right, welcome back. If you are a
01:10:29
video watcher, I am now at the producers
01:10:31
table and Mariah's still here. Ellis has
01:10:34
not been here, but we needed him for
01:10:36
this game cuz there will be teams. So,
01:10:38
>> with the magic of editing, teams teams.
01:10:43
>> I can't hear the music right now.
01:10:45
>> It's It's pretty epic.
01:10:46
>> Is it epic?
01:10:46
>> This is the worst walk on music ever. Oh
01:10:49
my god.
01:10:50
>> Who gets this music? This is terrible.
01:10:54
>> Let's just Whatever team this is for is
01:10:56
definitely going to lose this game.
01:10:58
>> Whoa. All right. That's That's
01:11:00
>> Yeah, that's like every Disney Channel
01:11:02
high school baseball walk out music
01:11:04
you've ever heard.
01:11:06
>> Um, okay. So, we're going to play a
01:11:08
game.
01:11:09
>> Play a game.
01:11:10
>> Um, game.
01:11:11
>> I'm going to explain it. It is based on
01:11:13
the game Wavelengths. Have you any of
01:11:15
you ever played it?
01:11:16
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have never
01:11:17
heard of this.
01:11:17
>> For those of you who have not, you've
01:11:18
probably seen a video of it. I've never
01:11:20
played, but I have seen people play it
01:11:22
and it looks super fun. It's basically
01:11:24
you have a wheel and on that wheel there
01:11:26
is a 1 to 10 and you're going to get a
01:11:29
uh you're going to get concepts and in
01:11:32
that set of concepts that has a scale
01:11:35
between 1 and 10. And essentially what
01:11:37
happens is one player on each team is
01:11:39
going to get a number that person needs
01:11:41
to give a clue for their teammate to be
01:11:43
able to find where on this scale in this
01:11:46
concept we're talking about.
01:11:48
>> Um so
01:11:49
>> can we get an example?
01:11:50
>> Yes, I have an example. That's kind of
01:11:52
an confusing explanation. I think the
01:11:53
example will be pretty easy.
01:11:57
>> The example I have is least sold Apple
01:12:00
product, most sold Apple product. So, if
01:12:03
you get a 10, you're probably going to
01:12:04
say the iPhone.
01:12:05
>> If you get one, you could say Air Power.
01:12:07
>> Vision Pro.
01:12:08
>> Uh, you could say Vision Pro. Vision Pro
01:12:10
would probably be like a two or a three
01:12:11
maybe on there. Maybe AirPods is like a
01:12:14
seven. So pretty much if I were to give
01:12:17
that to if I gave the number seven to
01:12:20
Marquez, he wants to give the clue to
01:12:22
David to try and pick between 1 to
01:12:24
seven.
01:12:25
>> He gives me a clue.
01:12:27
>> He gives you to get you to guess the
01:12:29
number
01:12:29
>> the number.
01:12:30
>> So I'm going to say, okay, in my head
01:12:33
the number is seven. All right, David,
01:12:36
most sold Apple product to least sold
01:12:38
Apple product. Most sold is a 10. iPad.
01:12:42
and you use that context to try to give
01:12:44
a number based on what you
01:12:46
>> based on a scale of 1 to 10 in that
01:12:48
>> probably say seven or eight.
01:12:48
>> Yeah, that makes sense.
01:12:49
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The way points will
01:12:51
work,
01:12:52
>> five points for the exact number,
01:12:54
>> three points for one number off in any
01:12:56
direction,
01:12:57
>> one point for two numbers off in either
01:12:59
direction.
01:12:59
>> Um, no decimals. We're just doing 1 to
01:13:02
10.
01:13:03
>> Okay. What are the teams?
01:13:04
>> It is Marquez and David
01:13:06
>> versus Ellis and Adam.
01:13:07
>> Oh, wait. So, the music was awesome that
01:13:09
you picked. Holy crap. Did you not know
01:13:11
we were on a TV?
01:13:11
>> I did not.
01:13:13
>> So, what I will need is
01:13:16
>> my and I don't have music.
01:13:18
>> Where's our music?
01:13:18
>> We don't need it. We're good. That's
01:13:20
We're good. Yeah, we're locked in.
01:13:21
>> I'm going to send um the number to each
01:13:24
of you in Slack.
01:13:25
>> Oh.
01:13:26
>> So, that you know, if you have something
01:13:27
you can look at Slack on, that would be
01:13:28
perfect. Um and then I'll give
01:13:30
>> I'm also This is all tech based. I might
01:13:32
give a little more of a category before
01:13:35
these. Um I'll show you an example.
01:13:37
>> So, am I allowed to say out loud what
01:13:38
the number is? No,
01:13:40
>> you want Marquez.
01:13:41
>> The whole point is she's supposed to
01:13:42
guess the number.
01:13:44
>> So, let me start this with
01:13:46
>> Got it. Got it. Got it.
01:13:47
>> I feel like Ellis knows what's going on.
01:13:49
>> Yeah, I've played this game before.
01:13:50
>> Okay, cool.
01:13:51
>> Play the game.
01:13:52
>> I am going to
01:13:53
>> Everybody play the game.
01:13:54
>> Can I see Ellis's number while he's
01:13:55
trying to get Adam to guess it?
01:13:58
>> You could if you wanted to.
01:13:59
>> I'll just look.
01:14:00
>> But here it is. You You say the clue
01:14:02
once and then you don't say anything
01:14:03
else. It's supposed to be one word, but
01:14:05
I'm just going to say one product. So,
01:14:07
like Samsung Galaxy S25 is an okay clue.
01:14:12
>> Um, so I'm going to do
01:14:15
for Ellis
01:14:17
>> for me.
01:14:18
>> I'm going to do
01:14:20
I have a lot of different ones here.
01:14:22
Okay. The category is tech CEO. The
01:14:25
scale is never heard of them to
01:14:27
household name.
01:14:28
>> Okay.
01:14:28
>> So, never heard of them is one,
01:14:30
household name is 10. You're giving a
01:14:32
clue of a tech CEO and your number is
01:14:35
>> okay.
01:14:35
>> My mom has never heard of a single tech
01:14:37
CEO.
01:14:37
>> Cool.
01:14:38
>> 10 is everybody knows one is
01:14:41
>> nobody knows. We should have music
01:14:42
playing during this.
01:14:44
>> I don't know how to do that.
01:14:45
>> Okay.
01:14:47
>> Damn. Okay. This is a tough one cuz I
01:14:48
feel like this is sort of a binary.
01:14:50
>> Oh, that's a lot of talking. A lot of
01:14:50
talking. A lot of talking. You're only
01:14:51
going to say a few.
01:14:52
>> Oh, you're right. You're right. You're
01:14:53
right. You're right. Right. Right.
01:14:56
>> It's a good thing we had such good
01:14:57
walk-on music. I'm going to say
01:15:02
I'm going to say I don't remember his
01:15:04
name so I guess I can't doesn't want to
01:15:06
say
01:15:07
>> um freaking
01:15:12
>> Larry Paige.
01:15:13
>> That's what I was thinking. I don't even
01:15:15
know the number.
01:15:16
>> You don't know the number?
01:15:16
>> I don't know the number. I just
01:15:18
>> that you're just thinking about Larry
01:15:19
Page.
01:15:19
>> Just thinking about Larry Page.
01:15:20
>> So my answer needs to be a number phone
01:15:22
there.
01:15:23
>> It's off.
01:15:24
>> My number. You said Larry Page. So my
01:15:27
number is going damn
01:15:30
>> my number's going to be
01:15:31
>> got this.
01:15:32
>> You think
01:15:34
I'm out. I'm out.
01:15:35
>> That's power.
01:15:37
>> You think that who knows about Yeah. Who
01:15:40
who knows about Larry Page?
01:15:42
>> I do.
01:15:42
>> People don't know who invented Google.
01:15:45
>> No, most people do not.
01:15:46
>> Yeah. Well, okay. Never mind.
01:15:48
>> Mariah's shaking.
01:15:48
>> If I said Sergey Brin, would you have
01:15:50
guessed six?
01:15:51
>> Eight.
01:15:51
>> No, that's Oh, six. Damn. I was between
01:15:53
six and eight. I was
01:15:54
>> I should have just been like, "Do more
01:15:55
people know it or people don't know it."
01:15:57
>> I'd say six is a really good That's a
01:15:59
good one for Yeah, that is good. That's
01:16:02
not bad. All right, I get it. I get it.
01:16:03
Yeah. Yeah, we got Marquez. I'm going to
01:16:05
send you one.
01:16:06
>> We're locked in.
01:16:07
>> All right, let's go. Brain blast down
01:16:09
the points.
01:16:10
>> So So we got one point.
01:16:12
>> Yep, you got one.
01:16:13
>> And then I'm crossing these out.
01:16:15
>> Oh, we did get We got a point. Yeah, one
01:16:18
point. That's sick. I was just trying to
01:16:20
mess up the game.
01:16:22
Um, okay. Marquez,
01:16:24
>> I'm going to do the category is
01:16:26
smartphone.
01:16:28
>> The scale is fingerprint magnet to super
01:16:31
clean. So, number one would be a
01:16:34
fingerprint magnet. Number 10 would be
01:16:37
the opposite of a fingerprint magnet.
01:16:38
It's just really clean all of the time.
01:16:40
>> Okay.
01:16:41
>> Your number is
01:16:43
>> 10 is clean. 10 is clean. Okay.
01:16:46
>> Yeah. 10 is clean. Okay. This is crazy.
01:16:50
This one's
01:16:51
>> crazy.
01:16:51
>> Tennis clean. One, his fingerprints
01:16:52
never show up.
01:16:53
>> Okay.
01:16:55
>> What? No. Just thinking.
01:16:57
>> No. One. His fingerprints always. It's a
01:16:59
smartphone.
01:17:00
>> Yeah.
01:17:01
>> I'm in their heads.
01:17:02
>> Rent free. Rentree.
01:17:05
>> Lock in. Marquez. Lock in.
01:17:06
>> iPhone 12 Pro.
01:17:09
12 Pro.
01:17:12
Trying to remember what. Okay. It was
01:17:13
the first square one.
01:17:15
>> Was this before you went iPhone?
01:17:17
>> Uh, yeah. I didn't switch until the 14
01:17:20
Pro.
01:17:21
>> Okay.
01:17:22
>> But I did review the 12 Pro for Android
01:17:23
Authority. Um, notably not an Android
01:17:26
phone. Um,
01:17:28
>> it was square. Oh. Oh, okay. Yes, I'm
01:17:31
remembering it was blue. Uh, Sierra blue
01:17:34
maybe.
01:17:35
>> Why are you looking at me?
01:17:37
>> You're just my like focus target right
01:17:40
now.
01:17:40
>> Okay.
01:17:41
>> I think
01:17:44
God, it's like right there. Um,
01:17:51
okay. I think I'm going to guess
01:17:54
>> Marquez is trying to brain blast this
01:17:56
number.
01:17:59
>> Dink.
01:18:03
>> Um, it really wasn't insane, was it? I
01:18:06
can't look at you.
01:18:08
>> What's your gut reaction when
01:18:10
>> My gut reaction is like four.
01:18:14
>> Oh,
01:18:15
>> was it actually four?
01:18:16
>> YES. LET'S NO WAY.
01:18:18
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS officially him
01:18:19
guessing it, but quick on the trigger.
01:18:22
Jesus Christ.
01:18:23
>> I think we should if you were taking
01:18:24
long enough. So, yeah. Points.
01:18:26
>> Wait, do we have unlimited time?
01:18:28
>> No.
01:18:29
>> Well, that's good to know.
01:18:30
>> Well, Mariah will be
01:18:31
>> That was quick enough.
01:18:32
>> There's no official time. It's just
01:18:33
whenever Mariah feels like.
01:18:35
>> That was huge.
01:18:36
>> So, they got two points.
01:18:37
>> Wow.
01:18:37
>> Yeah. And I'm impatient, so
01:18:39
>> crazy. What?
01:18:40
>> Five points.
01:18:41
>> That was five points. That was five
01:18:42
points
01:18:43
>> for nailing it on the head. Five.
01:18:45
>> All right. I'm taking 10.
01:18:46
>> I was thinking stainless steel rails.
01:18:48
Stainless steel rails would be like a
01:18:49
little
01:18:50
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:18:51
>> Okay. Let's do um
01:18:54
>> which one would or this is for Adam.
01:18:56
You're giving the clue.
01:18:58
>> Mhm.
01:18:58
>> The the category is a social media
01:19:01
platform.
01:19:02
>> The scale is
01:19:03
>> zero views to probably viral. So one
01:19:06
would be zero views.
01:19:08
>> Okay.
01:19:08
>> 10 would be most likely going viral
01:19:11
>> based on the platform.
01:19:13
>> Yeah. Like we all know platforms have
01:19:15
different levels of
01:19:17
>> activity pushed by the algorithm.
01:19:19
>> I think you can quick pretty quickly
01:19:20
think like what 10 would be like has the
01:19:23
most probability of
01:19:25
>> versus what social media platform
01:19:26
probably no one will ever see.
01:19:28
>> No, I think I think I get it. I think I
01:19:30
Well, it's it's not it's not whether I
01:19:32
get it. It's whether I understand Adam's
01:19:34
>> That's whether I get it.
01:19:36
>> Yeah.
01:19:36
>> The ones who get it get it. This is an
01:19:38
interesting question for Adam and I
01:19:40
because I'm not really on any social
01:19:43
media and Adam only uses like what is it
01:19:46
called? Like walrus or or like whatever.
01:19:49
>> Um
01:19:51
>> I sent Yeah, you sent it to me. I'm
01:19:53
thinking so it needs Okay, I'm going to
01:19:56
go with
01:20:02
levels of virality.
01:20:05
Yeah.
01:20:07
Okay.
01:20:08
Since we can cut wherever and there's no
01:20:10
time limit, let me think a little bit.
01:20:11
>> Yeah, take your time, bro.
01:20:18
>> Jesus.
01:20:18
>> Okay, so 10 is obviously this. One is
01:20:21
obviously this. So, I'm going to say
01:20:23
>> lot of words. A lot of words. It could
01:20:25
be 10 or one.
01:20:26
>> Blue sky.
01:20:28
>> Okay, we did
01:20:30
this. That's a good one because like on
01:20:33
the one hand, literally no one uses blue
01:20:35
sky, but the other hand True.
01:20:39
>> David, I saw you tweet yesterday.
01:20:41
>> I also blue sky. I skied yesterday, too.
01:20:44
>> I hate this.
01:20:45
>> Okay.
01:20:46
>> I want to be where the people are.
01:20:48
>> And um man, we did just have our first
01:20:52
viral blue sky moment, too, with the the
01:20:55
bus hijacking.
01:20:57
>> Oh, I for what?
01:20:59
>> Mariah's like, what? Okay. Clearly, it
01:21:02
wasn't viral enough.
01:21:03
>> I feel like there's a lot of words
01:21:05
happening. Shouldn't be so many words.
01:21:07
>> Girl, I need a number. Give me a number.
01:21:10
>> Well, I feel like it could be a three
01:21:14
because you've already used four.
01:21:17
And I feel like it could be a five cuz
01:21:20
we've already used six. And I don't
01:21:22
think it's seven.
01:21:23
>> Please lock in your number.
01:21:25
>> Three,
01:21:27
my man.
01:21:28
>> Wow.
01:21:28
>> Hey, Blue Sky is more popular than
01:21:30
three.
01:21:31
>> Numbers. I'm literally just pressing a
01:21:33
button in front of me. possibility of
01:21:35
going viral.
01:21:36
>> Yeah.
01:21:36
>> Yeah.
01:21:36
>> Because there are so few people on blue
01:21:38
sky your post.
01:21:40
>> Yeah. But that's blue sky viral which is
01:21:42
like I mean mainstream viral. That's
01:21:44
what that's what I had to think on like
01:21:45
terms of mainstream. But like think
01:21:47
think of like name a viral tweet
01:21:49
>> tweet.
01:21:50
>> Yeah.
01:21:50
>> There's so many.
01:21:51
>> Yeah. Name a viral ski.
01:21:53
>> One.
01:21:54
>> Name one. Name a ski that you saw that
01:21:56
everybody saw that I'd be like, "Oh, I
01:21:57
saw that."
01:21:58
>> Who's everybody?
01:21:59
>> Exactly. Mhm.
01:22:00
>> The people who are eternally online or
01:22:02
>> David, I'm going to send this to you
01:22:03
now.
01:22:04
>> Lock in.
01:22:05
>> The cat the clue has to be a smartphone.
01:22:08
>> Okay.
01:22:08
>> And it is on a scale of glad it's dead
01:22:12
to wish it was back.
01:22:13
>> Okay.
01:22:14
>> That's a good one.
01:22:14
>> That is good.
01:22:16
>> Glad it's dead is a one.
01:22:17
>> We have the same opinion.
01:22:20
>> Glad it's dead is a one.
01:22:21
>> I just sent you. Glad it's dead is a
01:22:22
one. 10 is a wish it was.
01:22:24
>> Oh boy. Okay.
01:22:26
>> Okay.
01:22:26
>> So, name a dead smartphone.
01:22:28
>> Oh man. a dead smartphone.
01:22:32
>> They're all dead
01:22:32
>> in
01:22:33
>> Okay.
01:22:34
>> Yeah,
01:22:34
>> it's a phone.
01:22:35
>> Um, I'm gonna say
01:22:39
the
01:22:40
>> I'm just going to blurt out the first
01:22:42
number that comes to my head. Just LG G7
01:22:45
Thin Q.
01:22:46
>> LG G7.
01:22:47
>> That was the blood glucose one.
01:22:49
>> That is a seven.
01:22:51
>> Final answer.
01:22:52
>> No.
01:22:53
>> Let's go.
01:22:54
>> You wish that would come back.
01:22:56
>> You want that back
01:22:57
>> to me personally?
01:22:58
>> Yeah. No.
01:23:00
>> Oh,
01:23:00
>> but he just went pretty high up there.
01:23:02
>> But you think David wants it back.
01:23:04
>> I think David wants
01:23:06
>> Oh, damn.
01:23:07
>> I'm glad you're right. You're wrong for
01:23:08
all the right reasons.
01:23:10
>> Damn.
01:23:10
>> It was a four. That's zero.
01:23:12
>> Damn.
01:23:13
>> Oh, wow.
01:23:14
>> Return of the four.
01:23:15
>> Okay. Seems like I know Marquez better
01:23:17
than he knows me.
01:23:18
>> Wow. All right. You know, we got We're
01:23:21
still good. We're still good. We got to
01:23:22
go.
01:23:22
>> What's the score? Six to five.
01:23:23
>> Adam and I don't even need the prompt.
01:23:24
Adam, on three. Let's say the same word.
01:23:26
One, two, three sandwiches. You said
01:23:29
one. One was your word. Your word was
01:23:31
one.
01:23:33
>> That's a one.
01:23:33
>> That's the number. That's a word.
01:23:35
>> Ellis,
01:23:37
>> the clue is
01:23:39
>> AI capabilities andor feature.
01:23:42
>> All right.
01:23:42
>> So, this is an AI feature.
01:23:44
>> The scale is waste of water to
01:23:47
necessity.
01:23:48
>> What? What? Uh, one is waste of water.
01:23:50
Waste of water. 10 is total necessity.
01:23:53
>> It's going to be AI over I know.
01:23:56
Oh, wait. I have to look at the number.
01:23:58
Yeah. Right. Right. Right. That's that's
01:23:59
part of it.
01:24:00
>> Seven. Okay. So, 10 is 10. Ted is
01:24:04
necessity.
01:24:04
>> Okay, guys.
01:24:06
>> Super useful.
01:24:07
>> Look me in the eye. Look me in the eye
01:24:08
right now. Look me in the eye. My Claude
01:24:10
Pro subscription.
01:24:11
>> Oh, that's a
01:24:13
>> Look me in the eye. No, no, no. Up here.
01:24:15
You know
01:24:16
>> that's a nine.
01:24:16
>> Yep. It's a nine.
01:24:18
>> Yeah.
01:24:19
>> Damn.
01:24:20
>> He needs that.
01:24:20
>> Wow.
01:24:21
>> Marcus, we need a lock in, bro.
01:24:23
>> We need a lock in. locked in.
01:24:25
>> I still think you're using too many
01:24:27
words, but that was incredible.
01:24:28
>> I said I used four words.
01:24:30
>> You said look me in the eye. Look me in
01:24:31
the eye.
01:24:31
>> Look me in the eye.
01:24:33
>> You got numbers on your
01:24:34
>> Quad Pro subscription.
01:24:36
>> No. Stay up here. Stay up here.
01:24:38
>> Stay with me. Stay with me.
01:24:40
>> And they still got it. And that was
01:24:41
sick. But that was a lot of words.
01:24:43
>> I'm just saying.
01:24:44
>> Fine. Next time. Next time I'll keep it
01:24:46
really kosher, man.
01:24:47
>> Okay,
01:24:47
>> Marquez. Ready?
01:24:48
>> I'm ready.
01:24:48
>> I do not need blood glucose. This is I
01:24:52
really it's not that important to me.
01:24:54
It's not seven.
01:24:57
>> Okay, this is a any any tech product.
01:25:00
>> Any tech product.
01:25:02
>> But we're judging the name from horrible
01:25:04
to great. Just the name of the product.
01:25:06
So one is the worst name ever. 10 is a
01:25:09
great name.
01:25:09
>> Okay, I can work with that.
01:25:10
>> I'm not even going to make a joke cuz
01:25:12
you clicked on these, Andrew. These are
01:25:13
good.
01:25:13
>> These are good. I need a number.
01:25:15
>> Yeah. Waiting on the number. Okay.
01:25:21
He's thinking. He's thinking.
01:25:26
He's still thinking.
01:25:28
>> Do it,
01:25:30
>> Marquez. That's a lot of talking. I'm
01:25:31
going to be just
01:25:34
>> LG G5.
01:25:37
Um, okay. That's like pretty damn
01:25:41
simple.
01:25:43
Um,
01:25:46
could this be? Could it be? No.
01:25:51
>> No way.
01:25:51
>> I'm going to say
01:25:52
>> you should look him in the eyes.
01:25:55
>> It works.
01:25:56
>> God, we got to lock because we got to
01:25:57
lock in, bro.
01:25:59
>> G5 specifically.
01:26:01
>> Interesting. Oh, that's so adorable. I'm
01:26:04
like between two.
01:26:06
>> Um, 10.
01:26:10
>> Is that your final answer?
01:26:13
Lock in
01:26:13
>> 10 is good, right?
01:26:15
>> 10 is like this name's amazing.
01:26:17
>> Greatest name of all time.
01:26:18
>> Yeah. I mean, that's how they should be.
01:26:21
>> It It is iPhone 17, right?
01:26:25
>> What?
01:26:25
>> Wait, what? Where did you get
01:26:26
>> No, I'm just saying like then it just
01:26:29
line number.
01:26:31
>> YEAH.
01:26:36
>> What was it?
01:26:38
>> Can I say what number was supposed to
01:26:39
be? It
01:26:40
>> was five.
01:26:42
It's fine. It's fine.
01:26:43
>> I also realized she put five men name.
01:26:47
>> Yeah, that was a pretty good hint. Yeah,
01:26:48
that was the I thought of that and
01:26:51
somehow skipped that on this question.
01:26:53
>> How could it be better?
01:26:54
>> It's the G line and it's the fifth one.
01:26:56
>> I was I What crossed my mind was like
01:26:59
great names, iconic names. Moto X is a
01:27:02
really good name.
01:27:03
>> Uh
01:27:03
>> yeah, but then they said to call it Moto
01:27:05
X second generation. Well, no, but like
01:27:07
the original the that would have been
01:27:09
like a really high number or uh
01:27:12
>> great use of the air horn.
01:27:13
>> As bad as it is, the humane AI pin is
01:27:18
like a good name.
01:27:19
>> Good name.
01:27:19
>> It's like
01:27:21
>> second generation.
01:27:23
>> If there was no second pin, too.
01:27:25
>> Anyway,
01:27:25
>> I mean, would you consider the iPhone 17
01:27:28
bad product naming?
01:27:29
>> The 17 specifically,
01:27:31
>> that's pretty any of the iPhones.
01:27:33
>> I think that's fairly standard. Really?
01:27:34
Fairly standard. I mean, it's standard,
01:27:36
but it's good, right? It's
01:27:37
>> It's not like the iPhone stinky butt,
01:27:39
you know, like like it's not like a bad
01:27:40
thing.
01:27:41
>> Well, this was a good game, Andrew. Who
01:27:42
won the rabbit?
01:27:43
>> No. No. Many more
01:27:45
>> Adam, your turn.
01:27:46
>> The clue is an internet meme and the
01:27:50
scale is never thought it was funny to
01:27:52
laugh every time I see it.
01:27:53
>> So, 10 is laugh every time I see it.
01:27:55
>> Yes. Okay.
01:27:55
>> Okay.
01:27:58
>> I know all
01:27:59
>> sounds very This is going to be crazy.
01:28:01
>> No, but I I know all of the memes that
01:28:03
>> That's the thing. I don't but I don't
01:28:05
know many memes. So this is going to be
01:28:06
hard. I know all the memes. You know
01:28:08
>> your library
01:28:09
>> has gifts in Slack more than anyone.
01:28:11
>> That's because I'm a millennial. Not
01:28:13
because I know the memes.
01:28:14
>> Gifts are not funny.
01:28:16
>> A protest on how many words are being
01:28:17
used.
01:28:18
>> You're Jokic and I'm Aaron Gordon right
01:28:20
now.
01:28:20
>> You can't miss.
01:28:21
>> They don't know.
01:28:21
>> Oh my god. Okay. Wait.
01:28:27
>> I'm going to go with Nick Young meme
01:28:30
>> with the question marks.
01:28:31
>> Nick Young.
01:28:32
>> Yeah.
01:28:32
>> Yeah.
01:28:32
>> Oh, is he the
01:28:33
>> No. No, no. With the three with the with
01:28:34
the question. That's that one. I've seen
01:28:36
that one.
01:28:37
>> Adam, for you,
01:28:38
>> that's like an eight.
01:28:39
>> That's the final answer.
01:28:40
>> Yeah, that's my answer.
01:28:41
>> Are you locking in?
01:28:42
>> Yes.
01:28:42
>> Yeah.
01:28:43
>> You're unbelievable.
01:28:46
>> What the What the
01:28:48
>> eights, baby? Okay. I'm actually going
01:28:51
to ask you guys to follow the rules.
01:28:53
>> I'm actually going to ask
01:28:56
you.
01:28:56
>> I saw I heard a lot of NBA references, a
01:28:59
lot of other words being used. That
01:29:00
could have been a clue. What's the
01:29:02
jersey number? I think it's an eight. I
01:29:03
think you should just
01:29:04
>> I just
01:29:05
>> Wait, is his number an eight?
01:29:07
>> Marquez is mad that you might be
01:29:09
cheating, but for his number five, he
01:29:11
used the LG G5, hoping to just guess the
01:29:13
five.
01:29:15
>> No, no, that one. Next time
01:29:17
>> it's just poker face.
01:29:19
>> Just get the clue. But also like like
01:29:23
>> you know, Adam and I edit this podcast
01:29:26
concurrently,
01:29:27
>> right? So, like we don't know what the
01:29:29
other person did until we're both done.
01:29:32
And so, every week Adam and I play this
01:29:34
game. Like, I get to I get to a point
01:29:36
and I'm like, how would Adam edit this?
01:29:38
And I know
01:29:39
>> that's fair.
01:29:39
>> No, the brain meld was already crazy
01:29:42
before this, so I'm I'm not shocked
01:29:44
we're not doing as well as
01:29:45
>> like we're an electric car and they're a
01:29:46
gas car. We pulled at the beginning, but
01:29:48
then they eventually took over.
01:29:50
>> I need you guys to lock in.
01:29:53
>> Okay.
01:29:53
>> All right. David. All right.
01:29:55
>> David.
01:29:56
>> Come on. All right. Here, David, do you
01:29:58
want a a phone one or do you want a
01:30:01
>> Don't give No, no, no, no. Don't have
01:30:03
Give them Let me use 70 words then.
01:30:06
>> Let's Let's make it a game. Come on.
01:30:08
>> Okay, cool. Then this is the
01:30:09
>> fun one. Mhm.
01:30:10
>> No, I'm not going to do the fun one.
01:30:12
Actually, this one is
01:30:13
>> I need one that Marquez will get.
01:30:14
>> The clue has to be a video game.
01:30:16
>> Marquez is not going to get this.
01:30:18
>> And the category is least likely for
01:30:20
Marquez to play and most likely for
01:30:22
Marquez to play,
01:30:23
>> but there's only one answer. the names.
01:30:25
>> No, Marquez has talked about the games
01:30:27
he's played on this podcast. I Why am I
01:30:29
talking?
01:30:29
>> It's up to you, David, to know that
01:30:31
scale in Marquez's head.
01:30:32
>> I do know that. Okay.
01:30:36
>> Um, backyard baseball.
01:30:40
>> Oh, that's a good one.
01:30:41
>> Okay. I mean, I'm a big fan of backyard
01:30:44
baseball.
01:30:46
>> Play a lot of backyard basketball. That
01:30:48
would be that would be a 10 for me. I've
01:30:50
also worn Well,
01:30:51
>> there's a lot of words happening. A lot
01:30:53
of words happening. giver is the limited
01:30:55
person.
01:30:56
>> I'm saying nine.
01:30:58
>> Let's go.
01:30:58
>> Damn.
01:30:59
>> It's a nine. Was it a nine?
01:31:00
>> Nice. Nice. See? See?
01:31:02
>> Let's go. We're back. We're back. We're
01:31:04
actually
01:31:05
>> I feel like I We're not.
01:31:06
>> No, I think you are. I think
01:31:07
>> we just nailed that
01:31:09
by one. I thought about that one in my
01:31:11
head and I thought 10 would have been
01:31:13
2K, nine would have been racing and then
01:31:16
like
01:31:18
>> I was envisioning like the games you
01:31:20
play on camera like Fortnite that you
01:31:23
don't actually play.
01:31:23
>> I was wondering if you would count Wle
01:31:26
because Wordle would be 10.
01:31:27
>> That would be a 10. That would have been
01:31:28
easy.
01:31:29
>> No, Backyard Base was a good one.
01:31:30
>> Solid. Great clue. Thank you. Well done.
01:31:32
>> All right. Good game. We can end it now.
01:31:35
>> No, I got to I got to prove I can still
01:31:36
do this by not not say words. Yeah,
01:31:39
>> this is Ellis, right?
01:31:40
>> Yeah, this is this is me.
01:31:41
>> Okay, so I have
01:31:44
um any tech product is the clue you have
01:31:46
to give and it is on a scale of not
01:31:49
throwable to super throwable.
01:31:52
>> Not throw
01:31:52
>> physically physically throwable.
01:31:56
>> 10 is physic is like
01:31:57
>> is like it would go the furthest if you
01:31:59
threw it.
01:31:59
>> Check it again.
01:32:00
>> Vision pro.
01:32:01
>> Who's throwing it?
01:32:02
>> No, hold on. I didn't send it. I just
01:32:03
sent it. So that was that was your last
01:32:06
>> not throwable to throwable. Who Who's
01:32:08
throwing this device? Is it like Ellis
01:32:10
or is it Mart?
01:32:11
>> Can't answer that question.
01:32:12
>> I'm asking you.
01:32:13
>> Oh, I don't know.
01:32:14
>> So, just in general, someone throwing
01:32:16
this device. Okay.
01:32:17
>> All right.
01:32:25
>> I have a 10% chance of just guessing
01:32:27
this right.
01:32:28
>> That's true.
01:32:32
>> They're locking in iPad mini.
01:32:34
>> I'm going 10.
01:32:36
>> Damn.
01:32:37
Maybe it was the banner.
01:32:39
>> It was seven. I figured like a It was
01:32:41
slightly less throwable than a phone,
01:32:42
but it had the It had the free.
01:32:44
>> We got an opportunity here. We just got
01:32:46
to get one to tie. Hell yeah. So,
01:32:47
>> you guys had me nervous, though. You're
01:32:49
looking at each other.
01:32:50
>> I thought they were going to nail it
01:32:51
again, to be honest.
01:32:52
>> I was going to guess eight or 10, and I
01:32:54
went
01:32:56
>> all good, brother.
01:32:56
>> I was going to say a Canon C300, but it
01:32:58
has a handle, which I think would make
01:32:59
you go like 9 or 10. So, I would pick
01:33:01
something without a handle. Well, I was
01:33:02
thinking just size
01:33:05
>> ball size. Also like a what's the the
01:33:07
the Olympic sport where you spin around
01:33:09
to hammer.
01:33:10
>> Yeah.
01:33:10
>> Yeah. I was also thinking iPad mini
01:33:12
would be like a good frisbee thing to
01:33:14
>> That's what I was thinking like seven,
01:33:16
you know, but it wouldn't go as far as
01:33:17
just like chucking
01:33:18
>> as an iPad Pro like an Apple Watch or
01:33:20
something.
01:33:20
>> What's an actual tentable chuck?
01:33:22
>> This is like the phone is kind of the
01:33:26
rock enough
01:33:27
>> humane pin. Perfect tent.
01:33:30
>> Oh, actually, yeah, cuz the weight. No,
01:33:32
you'd want something with a little bit
01:33:33
of weight.
01:33:34
>> Fits in your hand entirely. It's got a
01:33:35
finger hand to be
01:33:36
>> true. Like an AirPod is not very
01:33:38
throwable.
01:33:38
>> No. No.
01:33:39
>> What could be thrown farther? An AirPod
01:33:41
or
01:33:41
>> AirPod case?
01:33:42
>> Yeah. Airpods in the case in the case.
01:33:44
>> Yeah.
01:33:44
>> All right. Let's find out.
01:33:45
>> Is this a short?
01:33:46
>> Yeah.
01:33:48
>> What's more throwable?
01:33:49
>> Okay. It's Adam's turn, right?
01:33:52
>> No.
01:33:52
>> No.
01:33:53
>> My turn. It's our turn.
01:33:54
>> It's Marquez's turn. Okay.
01:33:55
>> For For the tie,
01:33:56
>> let's do for the tie. Yes. Let's do the
01:33:59
clue has to be a camera.
01:34:00
>> Okay.
01:34:01
>> One is overprocessed. 10 is natural.
01:34:05
>> Oh, this is There are a million layers
01:34:08
of gray here. I love this.
01:34:09
>> Princess 10 is natural. Wait for a
01:34:12
number. Got my number.
01:34:13
>> 1 million shades of gray.
01:34:16
>> This is a good one for this team.
01:34:20
>> So,
01:34:20
>> I think knowing over processed Okay.
01:34:23
>> Yeah. knowing all the cameras the way
01:34:25
that you guys both do might be a
01:34:26
detriment in this situation.
01:34:28
>> Yeah.
01:34:29
>> Yeah. There's so many choices.
01:34:31
An iPhone 5S. 5S.
01:34:34
>> Whoa, that's so specific.
01:34:37
>> Whoa. Um.
01:34:40
Gosh. Natural.
01:34:42
>> Natural.
01:34:44
>> All cameras.
01:34:45
>> It's a lot of words, Marquez. Wow. Wow.
01:34:48
>> I mean,
01:34:51
10.
01:34:52
>> 10 is my final answer.
01:34:53
>> Your final answer.
01:34:54
>> Mhm.
01:34:54
>> Okay.
01:34:58
>> All cameras. 10. What do you mean all
01:35:00
cameras? Most natural
01:35:02
>> any camera you think
01:35:03
>> like it's more natural than like
01:35:06
>> compared to other it is
01:35:08
>> then like
01:35:08
>> it has less processing for the JPEGs.
01:35:11
Yeah.
01:35:12
>> What about your like film cameras?
01:35:14
>> Well, film is processed by the computer.
01:35:16
Like it's different like but an the 5S
01:35:19
hadn't even introduced like HDR or
01:35:21
anything.
01:35:22
>> No, no. The the 4S you could toggle HDR
01:35:26
on or off.
01:35:27
>> That's what I mean. They knew too much.
01:35:29
>> It was a three.
01:35:30
>> It was a three.
01:35:32
>> I was trying to get you to say three.
01:35:35
>> I was thinking if I if I got high
01:35:37
numbers processing to phones.
01:35:39
>> If I got a high number, I would have
01:35:40
said something like a a film camera or a
01:35:44
DSLR where there's very little
01:35:46
processing like post-processing
01:35:48
especially. But if I wanted a low
01:35:50
number, I would go smartphone. Like a
01:35:51
one is a modernday smartphone. But like
01:35:55
an older smartphone, maybe like an
01:35:57
iPhone 5S is more like a three or a
01:35:59
four. That's what I was thinking.
01:36:00
>> They didn't have computational
01:36:01
photography when the 5s out.
01:36:02
>> So, do we just want to do wrap it up on
01:36:05
the last two questions for each team?
01:36:07
Um,
01:36:08
>> sure.
01:36:08
>> Okay. The the clue needs to be a tech
01:36:11
product. Any tech product. And it's on a
01:36:13
scale of we need less of and we need
01:36:16
more of.
01:36:16
>> Oh, okay.
01:36:18
>> And what's the number? Waiting on the
01:36:20
number.
01:36:20
>> It is.
01:36:21
>> I am starting the countdown before. need
01:36:23
more AI products.
01:36:26
>> Okay. So, 10 is we need more of this.
01:36:28
>> Mhm. Right. Mhm.
01:36:29
>> Yes.
01:36:29
>> And one is we need less.
01:36:30
>> We need less.
01:36:32
>> Okay. I'm clarifying the rules for
01:36:34
myself.
01:36:45
>> Macedon.
01:36:49
Damn. You and I would answer this
01:36:50
question completely opposite. And I
01:36:52
don't know if you're going with me or if
01:36:54
we're going with you. That's tough. I'm
01:36:57
gonna go.
01:37:04
Look at me. Yeah. Yeah.
01:37:11
>> What's your gut reaction, Ellis?
01:37:12
>> My gut reaction is one.
01:37:16
>> And is that your final answer?
01:37:18
>> I only do the final answers.
01:37:19
>> That's right.
01:37:20
>> Great. Well, that's great. There we go.
01:37:22
Was it completely opposite opposite?
01:37:26
I knew it was one of those.
01:37:27
>> Okay, some more guys. We have a chance
01:37:28
to tie and two chances to beat them.
01:37:31
>> Yes, we can win. We need that number.
01:37:32
This is our chance.
01:37:33
>> If we get a one, we tie. If we get
01:37:35
>> No, no, actually,
01:37:36
>> if you get a one, you win, I think.
01:37:38
>> No,
01:37:38
>> no, we're one behind you.
01:37:40
>> Are you They're one point.
01:37:41
>> According to my notes, I have You've
01:37:43
gotten two on the dot.
01:37:44
>> Two on the dot.
01:37:45
>> And they've gotten three on the dot plus
01:37:47
a onepinter.
01:37:48
>> Three on the dot. I thought Yeah, we
01:37:50
did. They got two on.
01:37:51
>> It was crazy. They went on a
01:37:53
>> Dude, it was a generational run.
01:37:55
>> Did they really get three on?
01:37:56
>> I believe so.
01:37:57
>> All right. Well, we can make this a
01:37:58
respectable game.
01:38:00
>> Yeah. I'd rather lose by one than
01:38:02
>> Wait, can we just say
01:38:03
>> if we get this correct, we win?
01:38:06
>> No.
01:38:08
>> If you maybe if we get this right, we
01:38:10
tie and we can do one more each. I maybe
01:38:12
would have won.
01:38:14
>> How about that?
01:38:15
>> Let's Let's see if we get it right first
01:38:17
and then
01:38:17
>> Yeah. Okay.
01:38:18
>> Okay.
01:38:18
>> So, you're sending me the number. I'm
01:38:20
sending you the number. It the clue
01:38:22
needs to be a smartphone.
01:38:24
>> One is cheapest phone possible. 10 is
01:38:28
literally the most expensive phone
01:38:30
possible.
01:38:30
>> Okay. Interesting.
01:38:33
>> The most expensive.
01:38:33
>> Sorry, I'm sending in find all of you.
01:38:36
>> Yeah. On Slack. Yeah.
01:38:39
>> I think I know the most expensive.
01:38:41
>> I figured it was going to be this.
01:38:42
>> That's a really tough one cuz like
01:38:45
>> possible. It's a long tail.
01:38:46
>> All right.
01:38:47
>> Long tail.
01:38:48
>> Yeah. And there's a lot of things that
01:38:49
maybe don't count as phones. I'm going
01:38:50
to try.
01:38:50
>> How about the Pixel 10?
01:38:54
>> Okay,
01:38:55
>> now I'm going to think out loud.
01:38:56
>> Okay,
01:38:57
>> so a 10 would have been a caviar
01:38:59
something crazy.
01:39:00
>> A one would be the like $2 track phone
01:39:03
or something.
01:39:04
>> Yeah. Okay, so Pixel 10, the base Pixel
01:39:07
10 was a little bit overpriced for what
01:39:10
it was because it was the 128 gig for
01:39:13
$799, I believe, and then we had that
01:39:15
iPhone come out for $799, which was 256.
01:39:19
So, I thought the iPhone was a good
01:39:20
deal.
01:39:21
>> Can I say other things or no?
01:39:22
>> No, the Pixel I'm thinking, don't worry,
01:39:24
I got this. Okay, so the Pixel is a
01:39:27
little bit overpriced relative to the
01:39:28
iPhone, but in the grand scale of all
01:39:31
phones, all phones, 10 being the $50,000
01:39:35
Caviar and one being the $2 track phone,
01:39:39
I think the Pixel 10 is a
01:39:42
solid
01:39:46
five.
01:39:47
>> Yes. God,
01:39:48
>> we're cooked.
01:39:49
>> Locked in.
01:39:50
>> Locked in. Okay, we need
01:39:52
>> As we were mapping it out, I was like,
01:39:53
he's going to get this. Well, no. I the
01:39:55
way I knew the number. Everything he was
01:39:58
saying was like, "They're not getting
01:39:59
this." Cuz it sounded like he was David
01:40:02
even thought there was like
01:40:04
>> David immediately was like, "I lost this
01:40:06
one." And then he and then I saw his
01:40:07
like mouth.
01:40:08
>> The moment his hands went like this, I
01:40:10
was like, "Oh, he's going right down the
01:40:11
middle."
01:40:11
>> Yeah.
01:40:12
>> Yeah, baby.
01:40:13
>> $8.99.
01:40:13
>> That was clutch.
01:40:14
>> That was so close.
01:40:16
>> Some people still consider $9.99 like
01:40:18
expensive, even though it's kind of
01:40:19
basically the price of every pro phone
01:40:21
now.
01:40:22
>> Yeah. So $7.99 is kind of right in the
01:40:23
middle, I'd say. Or $8.99
01:40:25
>> generational run.
01:40:26
>> One more each. You can pick who wants to
01:40:28
be the clue giver per team
01:40:30
>> and we'll just make it whoever gets the
01:40:32
closest.
01:40:33
>> If you guys tie again, then
01:40:35
>> then we're done. I have
01:40:37
>> Yeah. Yeah.
01:40:37
>> I think we got to do trivia.
01:40:38
>> Data wise, I've
01:40:41
the num when I get the number, we get it
01:40:43
right more often.
01:40:45
>> Okay. I'm fine with that.
01:40:46
>> I think you give a clue.
01:40:48
>> Yeah.
01:40:48
>> All right. Yeah.
01:40:49
>> Yeah. Yeah.
01:40:49
>> I like it.
01:40:50
>> What do you So, David's going first or
01:40:51
or two?
01:40:52
>> No, you should let them go first because
01:40:54
uh
01:40:55
>> I just went
01:40:56
>> I'll give the hint.
01:40:58
>> You give the hint?
01:40:58
>> Yeah, I'll give the hint.
01:40:59
>> I think you're better at guessing than I
01:41:00
am.
01:41:01
>> Okay, cool. This time I'm going to look
01:41:02
deep into your soul and not mine.
01:41:04
>> Deep into my soul. Not Marquez's. Deep
01:41:06
into my soul.
01:41:07
>> Adam, your the clue you have to give is
01:41:09
any type of tech product or feature. And
01:41:13
one is least likely to come out in 2026.
01:41:16
And 10 is most likely to come out in
01:41:19
>> Okay. Okay.
01:41:20
>> Live translate. Let's go.
01:41:22
>> So 10 is most likely to come out.
01:41:25
>> Yes.
01:41:25
>> Okay. Waiting on the number.
01:41:29
>> Oh god. Okay.
01:41:33
>> Most likely
01:41:34
>> most likely to come out is 10.
01:41:35
>> Yeah.
01:41:47
I'll let the mic locked in so hard he's
01:41:49
out of focus right now.
01:41:52
>> The camera was stealing my focus. I had
01:41:54
to get it back.
01:41:56
>> Pixel 11 mini.
01:41:59
>> Dude, that's like Pixel 11 mini in 2026.
01:42:03
>> Would you switch by the way?
01:42:04
>> In 2026. Did I switch what?
01:42:06
>> No. Would you switch
01:42:07
>> to Pixel if they put out a mini?
01:42:10
>> Yeah. That's like a three.
01:42:15
>> You're locking in.
01:42:19
>> Damn.
01:42:20
>> You think a Pixel
01:42:21
>> I think
01:42:22
>> Mini is coming out in 2026.
01:42:25
>> I actually think that's I think that's a
01:42:26
great rumor about the number six.
01:42:28
>> It's like it seems like very unlikely,
01:42:30
but someone made a video about maybe it
01:42:32
happening for some reason. So it's like
01:42:34
>> it's a tough one. I would think like if
01:42:35
the like the new rabbit comes there's
01:42:38
like
01:42:38
>> I was hoping you were going to say some
01:42:40
sort of robot.
01:42:41
>> Yeah. What would you say for six? That's
01:42:43
a hard
01:42:43
>> six is tough robots.
01:42:45
>> Like what's the new rabbit three in one?
01:42:47
Like there's maybe some murmurings about
01:42:49
it.
01:42:50
>> Three in one.
01:42:50
>> Yeah.
01:42:51
>> I was trying to think of something
01:42:52
that's definitely coming out and then a
01:42:53
new version of
01:42:54
>> all of these is so easy to do one and
01:42:56
10.
01:42:57
>> It gets really tough.
01:42:58
>> The problem is like we know what's
01:42:59
probably going to come out and that's
01:43:00
just tens and then we know what's not
01:43:02
coming out which is ones. How would a
01:43:03
Pixel mini come out? Like like what
01:43:05
would they like switch to silicon
01:43:06
carbon?
01:43:07
>> Google would announce a smaller Pixel.
01:43:10
>> No, no, no, but like
01:43:11
>> sell it in stores.
01:43:12
>> It's tough to get anywhere inside of 1
01:43:14
and 10 for this one. Like we know it's
01:43:16
not coming out, but like
01:43:18
>> I think it would be easier for them to
01:43:20
release like an 11 plus and then rebrand
01:43:22
the regular 11 as a mini.
01:43:24
>> Plus is a six cuz mini phones don't sell
01:43:27
and everyone knows it, but a plus is
01:43:29
like Google trying some, you know? Yeah,
01:43:31
>> I was going to say iPhone mini, but that
01:43:33
would be like two.
01:43:34
>> That would be too
01:43:35
>> Asus. All right, selling the mini.
01:43:36
>> David, we have a chance to do something
01:43:38
hilarious, right? Sorry, I failed this.
01:43:40
>> This gets thrown away right here.
01:43:42
>> Okay, this is the clue you have to give
01:43:43
is any tech product. It is
01:43:46
>> Definitely vapor wear to best seller.
01:43:50
>> Number uh no. Uh let me pick another
01:43:52
number.
01:43:54
>> Okay, one definitely vaporware 10 best
01:43:57
seller. Got it.
01:43:58
>> Damn, that's a H
01:44:04
okay.
01:44:07
Wait. Besteller. Vaperware and
01:44:09
bestseller are kind of different things.
01:44:13
>> Yeah,
01:44:14
>> they are kind of No, but
01:44:16
>> honestly, no.
01:44:17
>> I know. But it's like, you know,
01:44:19
something that like we don't think is
01:44:21
ever going to come out to something that
01:44:22
is like
01:44:23
>> obviously coming out.
01:44:24
>> No, not to throw a wrench in this, but
01:44:26
in in 2026, they can be the same thing.
01:44:29
like plenty of
01:44:30
>> there are plenty of products of which
01:44:32
thousands of people buy them and they
01:44:33
never come
01:44:37
>> it's just like a gaseous cloud.
01:44:39
>> You know what I mean though? You mean
01:44:41
like sold tons of units,
01:44:43
>> right?
01:44:43
>> Yeah. I'm gonna say
01:44:52
>> I don't know what that
01:44:55
>> rabbit R1
01:44:57
>> rabbit R1. Wow.
01:44:59
>> Okay.
01:45:00
>> Dang, that's a good one.
01:45:01
>> All right. So, it's not vapor number.
01:45:03
Did you see the number?
01:45:04
>> But it is very little sales,
01:45:07
>> but actually kind of more sales than the
01:45:09
Humane Pin. Humane pin flopped so so
01:45:11
hard cuz it was 800 bucks. The rabbit
01:45:13
actually sold like a lot because it was
01:45:16
cheap even though it was close to
01:45:17
vaporware. So, I'm going under five but
01:45:20
over two. So, I'm going to go I'm going
01:45:23
I'm between three and four. Rabbit R1
01:45:27
vapor to sales is a three.
01:45:33
>> That was a four.
01:45:34
>> Thank god.
01:45:35
>> But let's go.
01:45:36
>> We were close. So,
01:45:37
>> that was still closer if we're just
01:45:38
counting the last game.
01:45:39
>> We won the tie break. Yeah,
01:45:40
>> you won the tie break when it was never
01:45:42
tied in the first place. So, I'll let
01:45:44
the audience decide who is the winner of
01:45:46
that game.
01:45:46
>> Really? Adam Manella's got
01:45:48
>> the game. But that was I was like so
01:45:52
close.
01:45:52
>> Yeah, because I was thinking it's kind
01:45:54
of vaporware in terms of what it
01:45:55
delivers, but it did sell a decent
01:45:58
amount of them cuz they were cheap
01:45:59
enough.
01:46:00
>> Right. So,
01:46:00
>> the features were vaporware.
01:46:02
>> Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was good. Well,
01:46:04
>> cool. Guys, earlier this episode, I
01:46:06
forced a trivia question upon you guys,
01:46:08
which means it is time to answer it. Hit
01:46:11
it.
01:46:12
>> Yeah, I have a red marker now.
01:46:14
>> Feels good.
01:46:15
>> Trivia time. Yeah, I swapped them out
01:46:16
when you weren't looking.
01:46:17
>> See mine now,
01:46:18
>> guys. Did we get the second trivia
01:46:19
question asked already?
01:46:20
>> Yeah.
01:46:21
>> What was that about?
01:46:22
>> The Samsung product.
01:46:23
>> I don't What about it?
01:46:25
>> How everything like bulldozers.
01:46:27
>> What was it?
01:46:27
>> Oh, yeah. Okay. Sorry. Go for it.
01:46:29
>> Um, so guys, Apple names all of its
01:46:31
chips after letters. I guess maybe not
01:46:33
all of them, but all the ones that I
01:46:34
know of are named after letters.
01:46:39
>> You're going to cut that, right?
01:46:41
>> No.
01:46:43
>> Apple names all of it shipped after
01:46:45
letters. Um, I thought of this because
01:46:47
Air Tag just came out uses the U1 or U2
01:46:50
or whatever it is. Um, so whoever can
01:46:53
give me the longest word that only uses
01:46:55
letters present in Apple chips gets this
01:46:58
point.
01:46:58
>> Can I make a request? No plurals.
01:47:02
You couldn't do a plural.
01:47:05
>> There is. There's an S chip. That's
01:47:07
>> Girl, you made the question. It has an S
01:47:09
in it.
01:47:09
>> Which one's the S chip?
01:47:11
>> Do you We were
01:47:12
>> It's the S5 chip.
01:47:14
>> What does it do?
01:47:15
>> The S1.
01:47:16
>> Who cares? It's a letter.
01:47:17
>> Yeah, the S2.
01:47:18
>> It's the Apple Watch.
01:47:19
>> No, in that case, plurals are totally
01:47:20
allowed. The S2.
01:47:21
>> They're allowed.
01:47:22
>> It's just a It's just a free one for
01:47:24
sure.
01:47:26
>> Yeah. Who doesn't love free?
01:47:27
>> We all But it's even.
01:47:28
>> I live in Zon Mandani, New York. I love
01:47:30
free. That's right, baby.
01:47:33
Thank you. Come cut.
01:47:38
>> No pressure, but there's music playing
01:47:40
and the music is a timer.
01:47:41
>> Mhm.
01:47:42
>> This was a really difficult question.
01:47:45
>> I think they got this.
01:47:46
>> I would fail this immediately.
01:47:48
>> I've already failed.
01:47:51
>> I don't know if that's a word.
01:47:53
>> Wrong.
01:47:55
>> What if they don't have a word?
01:47:56
>> I don't know if that's a word.
01:47:57
>> They're going to I wish there was an E.
01:47:58
I wish there was an E.
01:47:59
>> We can make I can give you a hint.
01:48:00
>> There's real words.
01:48:01
>> The uh I think the longest word that I
01:48:03
saw on the internet was a kind of grape.
01:48:07
>> That's not going to help me at all.
01:48:09
>> You guys don't know your grapes.
01:48:10
>> A kind of grape.
01:48:12
>> I'm super interested here.
01:48:14
>> Yeah. Okay.
01:48:14
>> I have a lot written down, but I have my
01:48:16
one answer.
01:48:18
>> Pick your longest one.
01:48:19
>> Yeah. Who wants to go first? Who Who
01:48:20
thinks they have the shortest one?
01:48:22
>> I probably have the shortest one.
01:48:23
>> David.
01:48:24
>> I wrote warts.
01:48:25
>> That's pretty funny.
01:48:26
>> That's a good one.
01:48:27
>> That's pretty good. That's five letters.
01:48:30
>> That backwards is a word, too.
01:48:32
>> Straw.
01:48:33
>> Is that
01:48:36
>> So, there's two words right there.
01:48:39
>> Okay.
01:48:40
>> Yeah. Did I get both? I made an anagram.
01:48:43
>> Oh, that's not an anagram.
01:48:44
>> That's not an
01:48:45
>> Yeah, palendrome.
01:48:47
>> Okay. So, five letters for David.
01:48:48
>> Five letters for David. What do you got?
01:48:49
>> It's really 10.
01:48:50
>> Isn't palendrome the same forward and
01:48:52
backwards? Like,
01:48:53
>> yes. Yes.
01:48:54
>> Yes. So, mine is not a pal. Gosh, you
01:48:56
idiot. is anagram.
01:48:58
>> I don't even know my grapes.
01:48:59
>> Uh, I wrote a lot of things. I'm pretty
01:49:01
sure untrust is a word.
01:49:03
>> So, I'm going with 1, two, three. How do
01:49:05
I
01:49:06
>> seven letters?
01:49:07
>> I did not
01:49:09
think about this.
01:49:10
>> Untrust.
01:49:11
>> I assumed we would all
01:49:12
>> Wouldn't it be untrustworthy?
01:49:13
>> I don't know if you'd be using it as a
01:49:16
verb, right? Like I used to trust you
01:49:17
and now I untrust
01:49:18
>> because it's trust. No, because
01:49:20
trustworthy is a word and then
01:49:22
untrustworthy un is the
01:49:24
>> but can you can I untrust you?
01:49:26
>> I don't know. I haven't googled it. I
01:49:28
just that's my longer word. I have a
01:49:30
bunch of sixletter words but that's my
01:49:31
seven letter word.
01:49:32
>> It is considered a scrabble word if
01:49:33
we're going by scrabble dictionary.
01:49:35
>> Untrust is a noun on Mariam Webster
01:49:38
dictionary noun. It's a thing like
01:49:40
untrustables. Like untrustable.
01:49:42
>> I am betrothed with untrust.
01:49:44
>> Oh, a trust. You could have an unt. It
01:49:47
has the most barren looking page I've
01:49:48
ever seen. There's no information.
01:49:50
>> I just wrote it on our on the anagram
01:49:52
generator.
01:49:53
>> It's not on the anagram generator.
01:49:56
>> It's like truthiness.
01:49:57
>> Did I beat the system?
01:49:58
>> Yeah, I think so.
01:49:59
>> You know what? And I also never said
01:50:00
that you couldn't use a letter twice,
01:50:02
which is why it didn't show up on the
01:50:04
>> Oxford English dictionary says the word
01:50:06
is now obsolete.
01:50:08
>> Mariah, is it AI overview or not?
01:50:10
>> It was, but now he's on another
01:50:12
competing dictionary website.
01:50:17
pretty deep.
01:50:17
>> Let's Let's hear your word and then and
01:50:19
then we'll we'll we'll adjudicate it.
01:50:21
>> Let's hear your word.
01:50:22
>> Is it longer than five?
01:50:23
>> I don't think I can name all
01:50:25
>> planet. Saturn.
01:50:27
>> Oh,
01:50:30
>> wow. A planet.
01:50:31
>> Six.
01:50:32
>> That's a good one.
01:50:33
>> So, David has five, Andrew has six, and
01:50:35
Marquez, if the word is real, has seven.
01:50:37
>> I have a bunch of sixes that are crossed
01:50:39
out to get the seven. Yeah,
01:50:41
>> Ellis and Mariah should decide this cuz
01:50:43
they were the ones who'd asked the
01:50:44
question. I'm leaning towards
01:50:46
>> I'm sweating right now.
01:50:47
>> Yeah, of course you are. You're dressed
01:50:48
like you live in an igloo.
01:50:53
>> I I'm inclined to give them both a point
01:50:55
for this one.
01:50:56
>> I simply Googled untrust and it appears
01:50:58
to be a word. It's also a movie title,
01:50:59
>> I guess. Yeah. Do we want to count using
01:51:02
>> It's a short film on IMDb. That's
01:51:05
>> I don't know, man.
01:51:05
>> He didn't say he couldn't use the same
01:51:07
letter twice.
01:51:08
>> No, I did not say that.
01:51:09
>> And I didn't either.
01:51:10
>> Yeah. So,
01:51:11
>> but but yeah. No, I think Marquez gets
01:51:14
this one.
01:51:15
>> Yeah,
01:51:15
>> Saturn is so good, bro.
01:51:17
>> Saturn is really good.
01:51:18
>> Saturn is very good.
01:51:18
>> You do know all the You had other
01:51:21
>> Wait, wait. What if I do Saturn's?
01:51:23
>> Plural. You said I could plural it.
01:51:25
>> No, but it's Saturn. No, but Saturn's
01:51:27
what?
01:51:28
>> That's not plural. That's a
01:51:29
>> That's a possessive.
01:51:30
>> But you didn't write that.
01:51:31
>> Saturn's one of the planets that I do
01:51:33
know.
01:51:34
>> That's That's an abbreviation.
01:51:35
>> Trusts. Is that plural? I don't know. I
01:51:38
guess uh I'll take I think I think Yeah,
01:51:41
I guess we have to go to Marquez. Fair's
01:51:43
fair.
01:51:44
>> I would give it to Marquez.
01:51:44
>> The the grape I was thinking of was
01:51:46
muscat.
01:51:47
>> H okay.
01:51:48
>> I didn't The only type of grape I know
01:51:50
is grape.
01:51:51
>> You don't know conquered grape?
01:51:53
>> Red green.
01:51:55
>> Yeah.
01:51:55
>> Cotton candy.
01:51:56
>> Cotton candy grape.
01:51:57
>> Cotton candy.
01:51:58
>> And now you guys know a muscat grape.
01:52:00
What is that?
01:52:00
>> Is that a wine grape?
01:52:02
>> It's a grape they make wine out. Yeah.
01:52:03
Okay. Okay.
01:52:04
>> Thought so.
01:52:04
>> I learned something new.
01:52:05
>> I'm a
01:52:06
>> All right. Next question after that. It
01:52:09
was supposed to be an easy
01:52:10
>> straw.
01:52:12
>> I need an eraser.
01:52:13
>> Uh, can I get an eraser?
01:52:15
>> Straw.
01:52:18
>> Straw.
01:52:20
>> The way you said that, like
01:52:22
>> cuz when you read a word backwards, like
01:52:24
>> it's like you've never heard it before.
01:52:25
>> It's like, oh. Oh, straw.
01:52:29
>> Okay. So, we spoke about Samsung before.
01:52:31
But
01:52:32
>> they do make
01:52:33
>> Oh, the big ones.
01:52:34
>> Besides displays and refrigerators and
01:52:36
phones and all that stuff.
01:52:37
>> Yeah. They also make a
01:52:40
>> thing
01:52:42
with the name
01:52:43
>> six
01:52:44
>> six
01:52:45
>> the Samsung SE130 LC-2
01:52:49
what type of thing is it
01:52:52
>> I have not seen the answer to this
01:52:53
question
01:52:55
>> LC you can take a guess
01:52:56
>> yeah you can take a guess too take a
01:52:57
guess
01:52:57
>> SC130 LC-2
01:52:59
>> I will accept the like category of thing
01:53:02
that it is
01:53:03
>> category
01:53:04
>> if you want as well as actually what it
01:53:06
is I'll take Category. Category.
01:53:09
>> You can't say it has to be specific. You
01:53:11
can't be like
01:53:12
>> Yeah. Household item.
01:53:14
>> Household item.
01:53:14
>> Do you think it's like a
01:53:16
>> worldly object? Sink.
01:53:17
>> Oh, sink.
01:53:19
>> Could it be a sink?
01:53:20
>> Flip them and read. What do you got?
01:53:21
>> Put lawn mower.
01:53:23
>> Lawn mower. It's probably hoping it's a
01:53:24
tank.
01:53:25
>> No.
01:53:25
>> Uh, I put excavator.
01:53:28
>> Andrew, what' you put?
01:53:29
>> Microwave.
01:53:29
>> It's probably a microwave.
01:53:30
>> It is actually washing machine. I'm
01:53:33
going to be
01:53:33
>> Oh, yeah. Ellis, what' you put? What did
01:53:35
you
01:53:35
>> I put lawn mower. You put lawn mower.
01:53:36
Yeah, I think it's a bulldozer.
01:53:38
>> A bulldozer. Interesting.
01:53:39
>> That's
01:53:40
>> You would have gotten a point, but
01:53:42
Marquez actually gets a point cuz it is
01:53:44
actually an excav excavator. I can't
01:53:46
even say that word.
01:53:47
>> It is straight up a construction
01:53:48
vehicle. Specifically, a crawler
01:53:50
excavator.
01:53:51
>> Yes.
01:53:52
>> No way.
01:53:54
>> Let's go. That was a completely random
01:53:57
guess.
01:53:57
>> He said it earlier and I was like, I
01:53:59
really hope he guessed.
01:54:00
>> It's a completely random guess. Unless
01:54:02
you hang out on Wikipedia and you know
01:54:04
one of the largest subsidiaries of
01:54:06
Samsung is Samsung Heavy Sweating when
01:54:08
you said,
01:54:09
>> you know, you could argue that a lawn
01:54:11
mower excavates uh grass from the lawn.
01:54:14
>> From the lawn.
01:54:15
>> That's true. But you wouldn't call it an
01:54:16
excavator.
01:54:17
>> Yeah, I might.
01:54:19
>> Well, it was just my cavator until it
01:54:21
broke up with me.
01:54:24
>> Jesus. I think that's where we end this
01:54:25
podcast. That's good.
01:54:27
>> Uh, I'm very happy to end this pod on my
01:54:30
most successful trivia run in recent
01:54:33
memory.
01:54:33
>> That's true. Know, baby.
01:54:34
>> Very excited about the points. We'll do
01:54:36
a score update on the screen, I'm sure,
01:54:37
just to really lock that one in.
01:54:39
>> Hope we get it right.
01:54:39
>> Uh, but yeah, thanks for it's it's still
01:54:41
January. That's crazy. Thanks for
01:54:43
watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks
01:54:44
for subscribing. And we'll see you very
01:54:46
soon in February when it's even colder.
01:54:49
>> Peace out.
01:54:50
>> Wait for produced by Adolina, Ellis
01:54:51
Roven, and Mariah Zen. We are part of
01:54:53
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01:54:54
Atouch. Music was created by Vins. Soil.
01:54:56
Bingo.
01:54:57
>> Let's go.
01:55:05
>> This is This is why it's the news of the
01:55:07
year honestly to me.
01:55:09
>> I know we were thinking OLED MacBook Pro
01:55:11
and like them killing like other
01:55:12
products and the folding iPhone, but
01:55:14
this this is what we were waiting for.
01:55:16
Would I totally worth a
