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all of the like AI big stuff is just going to like your expectations need to lower and then that'll be where it's at in your phone it'll be like RP Google
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Assistant um pour one out yo what's good people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts
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I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David we're all currently wearing ugly Christmas sweaters and this is also our
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last episode of the Year happy holidays Happy New Year yes it means we're taking
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two weeks off it also means that this is the first weeks that we are taking off in five years of weekly episodes of this podcast it hasn't all been weekly but
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these are the first two scheduled episodes we're missing which is you know it's fun to actually take a little time off and we're going to we're going to enjoy that a little bit hope you guys do too but this is the last episode of the
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year which means we have all sorts of end of the year stuff to talk about which is great and uh we also have uh
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some late 2024 but also early 2025 news we can just jump right into it we have let's jump into new the news first and
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then we'll get into kind of our like waveform rewind for 2024 okay so 2025 January what usually happens we get a Samsung event we usually get the
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Galaxy S flagships the S Ultra and the s+ and the S mhm it's going to happen again shocker I mean CES is the other thing and that's also going to happen again cool uh so January 22nd is the
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leaked date for unpacked for when we are expecting not just the Galaxy S Series but also potentially some version of
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maybe a preview of this XR headset they've been working on yeah there was this preview that they gave a few people
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so it's not on video but they allowed some people to check it out test it use it for a few minutes and then write
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about it and or make videos uh describing it so there's no videos of this but there are lots of descriptions
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of it floating around did we even talk about that that headset last week I don't really okay so for those that
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don't know um this is Samsung's project muhan XR headset yeah that won't be the final name no do you know what that means uh it's like mang Infinity in Korean I believe oh
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Infinity bar bar interesting it's uh the introduction of Android XR which is Google saying oh my God oh my God oh my God to Vision Pro Vision OS uh Vision OS
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whether or not that actually plays out who knows whether they should be saying oh my God oh my God Vision Pro is
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another yeah the the Samsung headset looks a lot like a Vision Pro though that's what we've heard yeah again we
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haven't seen it photos but it's yeah I have not seen Google officially released photos I thought those were renders
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based on descriptions I don't think so I think Google wait that's it I probably saw this and just thought it was the
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yeah oh okay that's actually it yeah okay so yeah people were saying it was heavily inspired by Vision Pro I think
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the reason you see that is because most headsets don't have glass on the outside and this one does I don't know if
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there's any display facing outwards probably not but it looks like a Vision Pro because the Vision Pro is the only other one that has a glass on the
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outside yeah um it's similar like colors plastic on the outside of like the quest but I think that's a distinguishing
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feature otherwise yeah pretty similar pretty clean design looks fine the UI looks very similar to Pro mhm so it's but with like kind of a little googly
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take with more round corners and stuff like that um less translucent stuff so interesting I feel like every like five or six years we get an XR uh push I
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remember I'm old enough to remember back in 2015 when Microsoft thought that XR was going to be the next big thing and Lenovo and HP and Dell and compact all made headsets for like Windows 3D paint
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and and stuff like that Stu quickly uh got rid of that so this one's for real is time final final J export this one ship this one. PDF December 18th. jpeg
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yeah uh yeah so we'll probably hear more about that and hopefully a little bit more of Google's detailed plans for
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Android XR considering now Samsung events are kind of Google events and Google events are kind of Samsung events
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yeah there's something to that when when this says unveiled previewed at unpacked on January 22nd do we think there's
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going to be a significant portion or do we think this is of the event or is this going to be the um Galaxy home end of
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the thing and then never see it again it depends if they're actually planning on releasing this but I guess they were also planning on releasing the Galaxy
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home and then never did that but they do have the home mini in Korea we don't talk about that they did yeah we don't
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talk all I want for Christmas all I want for Christmas is the original Galaxy home yeah I think if they're saying it's
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going to be a 2025 launch then this is a preview to get people hyped about it coming out
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in a few months maybe something like that I could see that that would be cool yeah but the the the thing we definitely
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want the most out of this event is G2 so which I read something G2 G2 not on the
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headset was like where slap your head no on the phones so I read something I don't remember exactly who I read it from but remember was it last week or the week before we said that like I
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think ice Universe said that there was going to be ch2 on it but it was based off of a Tweet someone else put and we
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said based on how they're properly naming ch2 it should have the magnets right I read a tweet recently that's
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saying it has ch2 but not the magnets so that's like the ch2 the guy from the wireless power Consortium said you cannot call it ch2 without the magnet it's I think that's going to turn out to
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not be true I think there's I think companies are going to call things G2 without the magnets I feel like I should
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just reach out to them again if they call it Chu and don't put the chu branding on it it seems like that's what
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we were at right the guy from the the guy was saying that if it has The ch2 Branding it has to be the magnet
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protocol right maybe companies are just saying it's like the they're going to say it's ch2 compatible oh they're going
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to say they're going to have a slide and that it's going to have a little bu but also Samsung has a history of being like
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one of the first ones to use a more expensive like protocol or product right cuz they introduced the um not the in
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screen fingerprint reader with ultrasonic they were the first ones to do that in the US at least in a phone
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with the Galaxy S10 and nobody else used that for a very long time yeah so maybe
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they'd be willing to spend the extra money to license it for ch2 officially yeah I I would love it I mean I the
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magnet part is what is exciting well think about this they could sell more they can sell more expensive first party
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Chargers that way too so apparently this is from Chun VN 8888 saying that it won't be proper ch2 support explaining that they're without the magnets essentially so take that as you will the
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original report was us completely speculating on it anyways all right well let's let's make our first prediction of
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2025 right here okay will the s25 have G2 with magnets yes no I'm going to say yes but that is the most optimistic yes I could possibly have out there what about you
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two nay wow okay tiebreaker I I have no I have no idea I I don't know how am I supposed to know a prediction is he going be a shot in the dark okay say
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maybe yes okay hey I heard it here first the s25 will have magnets it's official
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wait why would it not have magnets no one's done it yet because nobody uh well what technically the uh hmd Skyline did
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it the only phone to have G2 but it's a very bad phone overall but it's repairable it is repairable it's not a
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track car that's Al true apparently the magnets in that phone are really weak and like it barely it barely sticks to a lot can't you just get like a sticker
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yes it's hard to do with cases and stuff like that and people who want their phone without a case yeah that's no it's
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but it's holding that I've had it before on my zen phone it's annoying to just have this like protruding on the back
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what's worse no magnets or weak magnets what's maget weak magnet cuz i' rather just no Wi-Fi or weak Wi-Fi yeah I think it's the same question yeah well you
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still pay for it on the plane don't you unfortunately yes I put myself through that torture and I know it's going to
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suck every time and I pay the $8 anyway what's worse weak Wi-Fi or having $8 give me the Wi-Fi give me
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yeah yeah you know we're going to we're going to see probably s25 s25 Ultra s25 Plus um you know with s25 ultra being
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the successor to the phone of the Year could get even better with the Snapdragon 8 Elite probably with a
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bigger battery probably with an improved display like this is probably going to be a really good phone again that's a super cold take hopefully they don't well hopefully don't they don't pull an
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s20 ultra again and just make it bad what a bummer can I throw one more thing in here about the unpacked event yeah last year Samsung unpacked was January
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17th this year it's the 22nd every year it feels like we've moved back and back and back to the
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point where I was like when are we getting the December Samsung event I'd prefer can we get this back in February
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for some reason February felt nice of like let's just chill in feel like it was Samsung's month it did like that's
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yeah Sony also did something in February well yeah but releas they would announce the phone and
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then they just go silent for six months six months thank thank you Samsung give us a some breathing room in the new year
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so we can appreciate the last year make our steps forward and then start reporting and let do a Lea interview Tim
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Cook again in the the schedule is always uh New Year everyone gets back immediately CES go get sick come back and then you have a break and it's like
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Samsung is pinched into that more and more so yeah they're like nah like yeah no go straight from CES okay so some
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additional news that was going that is going to happen in 2025 we have alleged uh renders of the actual switch 2 Nintendo switch 2 Nintendo switch 2 Nintendo switch 2 thank you
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algorithm um is that for the transcript to just max SEO okay uh courtesy of dbrand So Adam
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at dbrand says that he has official dimensions and so he built out uh some it was like a 3D render that The Verge put it is a 3D render with what with the case the case that dbrand would be
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making on it it's translucent so you can kind of see through it's a very funny render I'm surprised D Brand's doing
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this and I'm also not surprised D Brand's doing this it's it's like one of those things dbrand seems to like to
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poke the big console bear theyy I always thought that the way these things worked were that they were just under NDA but
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it seems like they just have access to things that they don't have to sign Nas for I don't know we don't ask dbrand how they get access true that's true you know I'll put it this way when you are
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an official accessory supporter uhh you get to see things ahead of time yeah but
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like you're not supposed that's bold that's bold that's for sure bold it's it's a good point though because accessory makers don't just get you know like package widths of
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like height length yeah exactly they know exact everything has to fit perfectly they know like perfectly what a thing is going to look like essentially maybe not they don't know
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the specs of it CU that doesn't matter but like every accessory manufacturer you know knows what all of these devices
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are way ahead that's how they have their case on the Shelf when it's announced when it's launched yeah so uh the
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additions to the switch 2 seem to be that it's quite a bit bigger than the last switch uh there's an additional
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button on one of the joycons which is very interesting on the joycon oh oh sorry
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sorry I'm thinking this sck yeah yeah below the the home button okay uh and then there's also an additional USBC
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part on the top thank God yeah the biggest issue prior was like they assumed that you're were going to charge it while docked but a whole another thing was that you could play it with the kickstand open and the joycons
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in your hand but the problem with that is if it was low battery or dead you had to like magyer a USBC cable underneath
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it and it was just horrible it's a bad it was a huge design flaw yeah very massive design flaw they did say that
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they were going to officially announce the switch 2 before April 2025 uh Nintendo said that so earlier this year so we're hoping that we get something in
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the next uh four months or so but March 31st and I imagine it'll come out holiday 2025 April 1st yeah that um yeah so yeah just it
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mostly looks bigger it will probably be faster it will probably have stuff the case looks sweet too low profile also
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we're partner with dbrand so take that with a grain of salt but it looks like a sweet case Nintendo switch 2 Nintendo
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switch 2 okay we can move on now uh last little bit of of stuff that I wanted to just like slide in here cuz it's the very end of the year some fediverse news do it thank you Ellis
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fediverse news some Fede news what's going on in the fediverse it's more fun than the WordPress drama for me to talk some people would disagree with that that's true that's
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true okay um so some stuff was happening last week with blue sky where people were basically parking on domain names because if you remember blue Sky's way of like verifying accounts was that if
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you owned your domain you could change your handle to that domain and that was like a way for people to be like this is
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the real me the problem is they got a lot of normal people on Blue Sky and that's a very engineering mind focused
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way to verify people because most people do not own their own domain right so apparently people had been uh parking on domains of like famous authors and other
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people that weren't like League of Legos that's not owned by anybody but me it's League o fleos yeah fleos man o fos uh and so they're actively working on
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figuring out another way to do verification I still think it's cool that they're allowing you to you know
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set your domain as your handle uh but I think that they're going to need to figure out some I think you should need to have a personal video call with the
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creator of Blue Sky in order to get verified shouldn't have any issues at all it's a little shout out to T2 um that's what T2 was doing yeah you
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to schedule a call with them and then would verify you actually uhhuh wow in their defense I don't think
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they had anything in place at the time so this was what they were new yeah there was like if I was that executive
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my entire job would be figuring out how to stop doing these calls like I need to figure out a way to verify people yeah
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wow okay yeah that happened I guess yeah so so blue sky has mentioned that they are actively looking into ways to verify
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people they are also actively looking into a potential Subs like Twitter blue kind of thing for Blue Sky
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which I would we're going very quickly into I I don't know some of the things they had talked about doing with a with
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a paid system is that you get to like mys spacefy your profile I think that's sick does that mean put music on it and
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pick a top eight maybe I that all pay bucks I mean that'd be dope um yeah I just want to say there was already a way to verify yourself on social media which was this app a while ago called keybase
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where you can like use pgp to like put public private keys on all of your public profiles and it would verify you and then Zoom bought them and everyone like lost trust in it and it died but
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that was a solution that I wish everyone could just have no idea make their profile picture of their driver's
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license their whole driver I would take it and then I would make it my profile photo uh okay some other fediverse news
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uh we talked a little bit in the what is the fediverse episode about this thing called bridgy fed which is a bridge that Bridges the FED uh activity Pub and the
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at protocol yeah and allows uh threads post to show up on Blue Sky effectively it sort of creates like a like a fake version of the threads account on Blue
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Sky and then it just cross posts for it so that you can follow someone's sort of
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like fa threads account through Blue Sky because they are using different protocols anyway that was a thing okay it got very popular they're building it out but now
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they've decided they're going to start a whole Foundation to just Bridge all of these different protocols together
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because we're in this weird space where like activity Pub was originally supposed to be this like endol BL
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protocol that everyone used but that's just not how protocols work nobody ever just like decides on a protocol there's a famous X kcd comic about this uh so
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now they are starting a foundation in which they're just going to keep bridging all the new social media
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protocols that pop up and work with the platforms to make sure that it is like more natural one protocol to rule them all I it really feels like another
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protocol yeah it I feel like and I don't know if we said this in like the fediverse long form
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but everyone wants it to be open and for everyone but then everyone want to create that thing that does it does that make sense which makes
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me feel like there's not a lot of paths forward in this if everyone's going to fight over who gets to be the one that
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most of the people are not fighting anymore most of the people that well except for meta they'll fight tooth and
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nail to make sure that threads is the only thing but uh most of the people are starting the smaller platforms with
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their own protocols which I agree they should just like make one that they like uh they're not fighting as much CU they just want the open Social Web to exist so anyway there's now a foundation it is
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their goal to build this out that's good it's good to have foundations last little bit of news um the people who
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started Flipboard which is a very old uh app that used to be pre-installed on Samsung phones way back in the day that was a user oh yeah yeah I I use Flipboard it is a news aggregator reader
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app we had their CEO Mike mchu on for or the fediverse episode they have just launched actually as of recording today
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a fediverse browser which allows you to basically like have all of these sources whether
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it be threads accounts Blue Sky accounts podcasts YouTube channels because podcast and YouTube channels are both RSS based and create your own like packs
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of uh like news feeds that you can use to just like read different topics and so you could create a your own pack which I could then follow and I could add your Pack to my all my friends packs
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pack and then it would just be a giant news aggregator so it's all that's all Federated as well so speaking of packs
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I'm going to throw one really quick thing in here talk about Pokemon yes oh boy three of us in here play Pokemon the
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card game okay the new expansion came out Adam yeah I message everyone in our office that plays it the other day I'm like yo let's open packs together I'm not going to get into that argument cuz that was some big drama at the MKBHD
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Studio where everyone stabbed me in the back but Adam just that morning goes I got this is this cool and it's a gold Mew EX it's like the rarest thing you can pull in the new expansion pack and
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just stunts on all of us and then David and I proceed to pull absolute garbage nothing good nothing good this is just random right whatand it's a slot machine
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yeah they have like percentages of like what what the probability is that you're going to get a certain card you like
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trade the cards not yet not yet it's coming you will next year okay and what blockchain is all of this registered on it's on the salana 4 oh crypto Edition that's the one that
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fart coin is on right uh yeah yeah yeah yeah wait isn't that real yeah I think that came out like last week I think right and it just reached like a $900 million mon okay we are not fin are
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animals I feel like talking about this you yeah about this is not Financial I'm so sorry anyways Adam's very lucky he pulled like a 2% pull sounds skill um
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for it is it it is skill-based um but to all you new cards on my side cards to all you new expansion enjoyers good luck this holiday season with your pack P did you also notice that a lot of the cars
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cards art have like a small Mew somewhere in the photo I did not yeah a lot of the the Pokemon art will have
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like a me like diving into the the lake or something in the background I've been too mad at how unlucky I've been okay
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cool Marquez you have a really cool thing to share I've prepared something to show you all uh audio listeners I
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think you should probably watch the video version just for this segment just for this segment uh we'll do our best to
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describe it sure we'll attempt of course but uh but pull pull over and and open your phone yeah yeah yeah definitely
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pull over first so Google uh kind of out of the blue announced their AI video gener generation model vo VO2 is uhing
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suddenly out and it okay so Sundar Pai like posted this announcement with like four videos and we know it's going to be like hand handcrafted generated videos is that what it's called vo yeah more or less
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and they're they're super creative over there uh it comes out we get these four hand selected videos and each one of
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those videos in my opinion is better than everything that I've seen from Sora and we just we just reviewed Sora like a
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week ago we're like guys this is the worst attch is going to be from here on out it's getting really good at a lot of things it's still you know we remember
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we talked about this not great at physics not great at certain things um vo seems like it's really good at that
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stuff too these videos that people are generating and I I got access to it and I started playing with it uh actually
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have and people have done side bys side comparisons real working physics things look like they move correctly and they
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seem to have object permanence and things overlap and move around each other and don't disappear and glitch out
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and look weird and that is another huge step in whatever Direction you think it is um so what I did was yeah what I did was I asked you guys in slack give me a
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couple prompts and David you have access to it too so I know you've played with it but I asked everybody else give me a couple prompts of things you want to see
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me put in this new one vo and we can look at them and see your reactions cuz you guys have now seen a whole bunch of
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Sora generated videos you know kind of what to expect what looks real what doesn't and so I've generated them and
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there you can't change the resolution this is still very early very limited access there's uh it's like a small
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couple seconds each video is like 2 megabytes but I have them for you I'm going to can you pay extra to remove the
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watermark at this point no garbage so at this point that it is very much not as productized as open AI Sora is but I think Google saw sora's announcement and
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went all right we got to get our thing at least off the ground and out so I have a box and a prompt generator I can
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make stuff now and I think they'll have more features coming soon now just to give you guys a peek in these guys heads these are the prompts that they gave me
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before you see the video you should say the prompt first so the audience can guess who said it okay so I won't tell you who gave this prompt but here's the
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first prompt okay a humanoid sponge living inside a pineapple at the bottom of the ocean with his best friend who is a starfish um just going to drop
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there just going to drop that video in the slack it is oh my God my God check this out holy crap so this video maybe uh David you can describe what you're
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seeing sponge Bill box trousers this is literally SpongeBob squir pants with very nice eyelashes yeah and his
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pineapple house is upside down for some reason and then his starfish looks more like a pet starfish versus Patrick star
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um it's literally just SpongeBob with no fingers there's like maybe a couple very
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very slightly different like facial things the pineapple is upside down cake it's under the sea I don't know why it's upside down but it is there and you know this is a cartoon style but so you know
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it's not like a perfect photo realistic thing but the bubbles are rising the bubbles overlap things in the background
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they all the the water physics look kind of solid the lighting is all cartoonishly good if SpongeBob was made in the bluey uh yeah it's my God that's
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exactly what this ISB Bluey Universe it feels more like drawn animation where like it's a very set background but the
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things in the foreground are like moving a little bit and super way more clearer than the stuff in the back but the
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character even has like the same exact outfit as yeah he's got the same working attire this right from the beginning has
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me thinking like what does the Google thing get trained on that sorz doesn't because this is very different for would
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if you posted this uh Paramount would uh would have some issues I'm thinking lowkey even on the YouTube video we might have an issue this is very similar it's very similar yeah it has the two
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teeth so what's funny is I posted on Twitter a couple videos when I was talking about Sora and I posted some of
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them that were kind of in this cartoon style the artist Community got very mad they were like not happy that I thought
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this was like a decent animation I'm curious what they think of this one I think there's a difference between we thinking it's like
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impressive for AI thing and then like artists are clearly a thousand times better than this can exactly the bar is
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in totally different places but I understand the frustration yeah it is crazy all right the fact that you didn't
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type SpongeBob though and it literally made exactly SpongeBob is yeah C seen SpongeBob it's worse than the plant the tech reviewer plant there's like a weird tension now between like trying to uh
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look at something and say this is where the technology is and also not NE like advocating for it
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to exist you know shining a spotlight on it sort of yeah it's it's complicated right like doing journalism about anything or like talking about anything is hard because you're technically
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giving it a platform everything you do is platforming yeah yeah so it's you complicated uh I had like the most minor criticism of this ever which is that the
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water ripples are really nice in the with the bubble oh in the top in the top but they're not reflecting cosics upon the sand floor say right how dare they
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frankly gross human would have uh do you mean like the like thing on the sand yeah the like you know the shimmering when you uh when you look down at a pool and you see
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that sort of like wavy grid that's called costic all right well we'll so okay spoiler that was that was an Adam prompt no way thanks Adam this was
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Adam's next prompt prompton we'll we so that one keep in mind Ellis was a cartoon style this one is very much not
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photo realistic a smartphone reviewer talking about the latest product release sitting in front of his desk while
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talking to the camera explaining what they like about the phone with a plant oh you'll see a plant don't worry
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it's like a Motorola phone mixed with the it's got a very okay so table person sitting at table phone sitting up in front of them it looks like a mix between a Motorola and a Sony and a
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Samsung really that is really photo realistic though this guy has 60k subs like I I would wearing an Apple Watch 100% Apple wise he's got like the very
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prominent like lamp and plant in the background it looks like a nice fiddle fig let check out his lav mic placement
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yeah pretty good I was checking that out he has the like window um reflection on
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the back wall he's got the Brandon that's like literally an A2 a Galaxy a22 like the same phone this is even of his fingers right up until the very end he grows a couple extra
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fingers but most of the hand movements as he gets uded by the phone are pretty reasonable they're all like physically accurate his eyebrows go up and down bro look at his look at the fabric of his
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shirt on his left sleeve that's crazy yeah it like it it folds with his arm all of these decisions from the plant to the light to the color of the shirt to the way the guy looks and the phone and
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the watch and the lab are all just generated that's all just things that I thought would make sense for this prompt the way I know that this isn't real is cuz he's using a Apple watch with a
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Galaxy a22 you can still rev it's a reviewer so you use two phones this guy could be
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a two phone guy two phones over here the phone does I guess you could stand a phone up like that it's it feels like
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weird placement I used to do that not in my just like right in front of you not in my video oh yeah in the video it
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feels more natural if he was holding it but I wonder if that's a liberty took of like that would maybe not look as good
00:30:30
the set is B the computer I really like the set aesthetic just like a lamp a plant andk something I've started noticing about these the Shadows are mostly
00:30:41
pretty good yeah which isn't always true about a generated videos okay oh not all
00:30:47
right one more prompt from Adam a Jaguar car driving off of a ramp and flying away into the clouds with New York City skyline in the background I just want to say I'm pretty good at promp thing not
00:30:58
to toot my own horn wait before I've even hit play yeah do you know those like do you know when you're um like
00:31:05
watching Tik Tock and it has to have the like attention span killing thing underneath your and it's the ramp the
00:31:11
car that's on the ramp that just goes like and slowly gets out of control that's what this it looks like what what
00:31:17
are you talking I have no idea what you're talking about do you know how like in Tik Tok they do the like cutting
00:31:22
oh yeah I am full brain rot that like um they're either like cutting squand or they're like sand squand is that like
00:31:30
sand that kind of gets wet and like sticks together in different colors they're either cutting that or they're
00:31:35
like Subway Surfers it's all the attention span uh brain rout things one of them is there's this game where a car
00:31:42
is going down this big ramp but there's like series of gaps so it slowly just starts like bouncing and bouncing and skitting and like flipping and you got to watch it and it's on the it's
00:31:52
underneath like a podcast clip so you can not to go off the podcast should start it honestly waveform would be at 10 million subscribers if we started doing that anyways okay so anyway yeah
00:32:04
this this is a very realistic looking Jaguar the ramp ends it floods off it's definitely Manhattan in the background
00:32:10
you can see some recognizable buildings and it's clearly a peninsula but also it
00:32:15
just kind of flies horizontally and the wheel stop I would argue it doesn't ramp it just yeah it goes off of the platform
00:32:23
and it just goes straight and it stays perfect yeah the it doesn't drop the wheels also stop completely at some
00:32:29
point because he's flying this one you can tell is AI um well very easily it but it is much I don't think Sor would have been this yeah convinc it's also that's an exact car right like it's not
00:32:43
like a gole Jaguar e type I would argue the thing Sora might do better is like I bet it would have
00:32:49
started falling in Sora wow the like it's like just the E type it's just the E type even with the curves yeah nail even even got the rims right yeah I
00:33:01
cannot tell just straight up that this is AI I would think that this would be like some bad special effects Adam it's
00:33:07
flying off a floating platform if you're watching like a Fil A College film okay
00:33:13
how I can tell it is is bad CGI the wheels are going from Full Speed and then they just stop there's no like ramp
00:33:19
down of it that would CGI it could be a bad animation I guess it looks like a blender animation or they got an ABS
00:33:26
delete I don't know what does that mean [Music] uh in the comments they'll answer it don't explain it fine okay cars have
00:33:37
this thing called anti-lock brakes that when you slam on the brakes as hard as you can the wheels will slowly come to a
00:33:43
stop so they don't start skidding but the joke is is that they took that out so you can just lock the wheels up
00:33:48
instantly oh calipers go okay let's uh so I think those are also as we've seen probably better than what we've seen from Sora age um Andrew
00:34:00
gave me one prompt but I did run it several times and get several videos okay yeah I'm so interested at what this
00:34:07
did cuz I gave it a pretty there's different paths it could take and I got several different okay cool um Andrew's prompt was the New Jersey Devils winning
00:34:18
the Stanley Cup this might be the only way this is how you know it's AI generat it's going
00:34:24
to be actual Devils oh whoa okay w w number one whoa so the New Jersey Devils are a copyrighted license uh is that the logo
00:34:37
that's their logo extremely close yeah it is very much recognizable as a New Jersey Devil's logo they tried to put a Stanley Cup in the middle confetti falling from the ceiling in confetti
00:34:48
ways it kind of disappears a little bit and you can tell it's not real but a bunch of Devil's players in the
00:34:53
background not real people but wearing Devil's jerseys jumping down crating I if you put that clip in a live like broadcast after they actually won I don't think people would notice or like
00:35:06
or like uh part opacity over it with like the like MSG Network coming up next like it probably but I will say this feels super the super AI generated the the Stanley Cup is really off it's like
00:35:21
identical it's big and then small and then big rather than it's normal like look the words on it are really weird
00:35:27
they don't really say anything there's no individual team names some of the players are kind of weird I I'll give
00:35:34
them credit for when their jerseys are jumping you can tell there's like pads underneath it which is pretty impressive
00:35:40
and the laces which the Devils don't have are going up and down but there there's some Physics issues in this for
00:35:46
sure the reflections don't match yeah the reflections are weird a lot of people like don't have bottom rows of
00:35:51
teeth which maybe hockey players I was going to say totally normal yeah so the Stanley Cup is like that thing that
00:35:58
people buy the thermos thing right that's what that I don't even think that's what it could be it looks totally
00:36:03
different that's the best thing you've ever said on this podcast I hope I hope the next one is a literal demon drinking
00:36:09
out of like a Stanley Cup they bought it a bedazzled Stanley Cup no so it it I for all three of these it never even fluttered from the New Jersey Devil thing hockey got hockey right time
00:36:20
here's the second video this is later on in the same night oh okay these players
00:36:25
look very like Eastern European which is is very hockey related so the players are now back to the locker room they've
00:36:31
calmed down there's no more confetti they still got the slightly weird but pretty close New Jersey Devils logos on
00:36:37
their on their jerseys it's worse the the logo is worse the but it's consistent the GU goes for a high five
00:36:43
and then doesn't get one the Jersey the Jersey on this is super realistic these are like the new fanatic Adidas jerseys
00:36:51
where like the the way the black and the top neck piece is is very realistic mhm
00:36:57
um the hats in the background and the names on the lockers are really bad dude that's so funny um is that what the
00:37:04
Stanley Cup looks like this is what the team would look like if they just won the Stanley Cup five years in a row and
00:37:10
like aren't even excited for winning it anymore if the the Devils haven't won since 2003 there would be these guys
00:37:17
would be blackout drunk and champagne flying everywhere so here's the last video from a week later with the parade wow they this looks so bad this this is
00:37:30
the least realistic looking one but it is the hardest one to generate which is hundreds of people a bus all the players on the top of the double-decker bus the
00:37:40
Stanley Cup the people in the street the flags waving tons of physics um zoomed out it doesn't look terrible but as soon as you start inspecting it I don't think I would think twice if I just saw this clip on like a news broadcast if I was
00:37:52
scrolling my Twitter timeline I wouldn't check twice that's kind of where it is F150 is holding like 15 players in the
00:38:00
back of it I thought it was bigger than it looks kind of like an ambulance size like it's kind of bigger than an know
00:38:06
the them sitting in the bus is really bad like they're on top of a double-decker bus that they obviously
00:38:13
aren't fitting in it very well but compared to what we've seen from Sora this is the closest Stanley Cup out of
00:38:18
all of them that's very I also like how there's like 40 people on the hockey team dude the reflection of the guy in
00:38:24
the street on the side of the bus is pretty close Okay but every single there are
00:38:31
over 100 people in the crowd not one of them is looking at the bus with the players they're all looking backwards
00:38:37
and there isn't a face facing forward Santa Claus is back there yeah but the reflection like doesn't go away like the
00:38:44
bus drives way past him and it stays with the ref the reflection stays it's like what a college freshman would do on
00:38:49
the first ever VFX project that's and they'd get a c minus or something it wouldn't be that good I don't know about that yeah this that ran the gamut of
00:38:58
one all the different things that happen when you win the Stanley Cup and two progressively got worse you should have
00:39:03
seen my VFX work freshman year worse than this the people on the left like sort of just down left from the Street
00:39:11
Lamp are like merging into one another in this sort of like terrifying human soup a very Sora thing to do the flag
00:39:18
also that's being waved is just freaking out oh yeah so that's Flags too the focal length or like doesn't not focal length but like the the plane of focus doesn't make sense like some of these
00:39:31
guys faces are really sharp and then 6 ft behind them it'll be blurrier and then six feet behind them it'll be back
00:39:37
to Sharp again yeah it's parap focal it's something we would notice for sure cool last three prompts are Ellis promps let's go thank you
00:39:48
Ellis and these go these are also very interesting so first sants first one from Ellis a wide angle shot of a dolphin jumping out of a tropical ocean in the style of can you say that I don't
00:40:00
know how to say that frer arrow is that a cheese don't know what that is but I put it in the prompt
00:40:06
engine anyway is let's see yeah let's okay wait okay I'm going to try and explain this as oh come on it it is a very realistic dolphin it is
00:40:17
underwater then jumping out of the water and Landing where everything looks pretty good except for like the velocity
00:40:26
of the dolphin like slowly goes up to where it looks like it's just going to poke his head out then it just slowly
00:40:32
continues to be about 5T over the water flies for a little bit and just like very slow just goes horizontal for a
00:40:38
little bit and then Dives back in yeah yeah he decides what his gravity is at any given moment did it match your style uh no I'm going to drop some um images in the slack of what frut AER arrow is
00:40:51
supposed to look like uh it's a very distinct visual style also but I would like to give it credit uh cost on the
00:40:58
dolphin oh yeah yeah see some of it that's the thing is some of it is pretty impressive and then some of it is is
00:41:05
totally wrong so it's like how do you summarize it as a whole oh it's not like that that's this that's what prer arrow
00:41:12
is okay so I was really hoping for something like straight out of like a juice commercial greatest like some of
00:41:18
it again this is this is going to annoy people who do this for a living but some of it is really impressive when the Dolphin's under the water look at the
00:41:24
bottom of the water where it reflects the Dolph as it's coming up yeah like the that I that's kind of interesting
00:41:31
bottom of the water yeah under the surface of the water where it reflects the top of the dolphin and the reflections that's just okay I found
00:41:38
that impressive yeah again Sora doesn't necessarily get all these things wrong but I don't think that's good here's one
00:41:44
more Ellis prompt it reads a crane looming high above a pristine Mountain Lake on a cold Misty winter morning wait before you send it were you talking
00:41:55
about the bird or the construction equipment that's up for Google to decide let's go okay cool it went bird oh this
00:42:04
one I think gets the highest grade I'm going to read The Prompt again as you're looking at this dude that bird be
00:42:09
though oh my God as cranes do obviously so much bird poop on the prompt one more time is a crane look at this video a crane looming high above a pristine Mountain Lake on a
00:42:23
cold Misty winter morning that is crazy they got all of it I wish it thought construction equipment
00:42:30
because if there was just an actual crean sitting here it would be pretty sweet don't worry the next prompt get I
00:42:35
chose the word looming very carefully like to see what it would do yeah again it it gave me a couple options this was the the one I think fit the best one of them it was kind of on a lower Rock I
00:42:46
thought high above this this fit better the environment very very impressive there's not really any real place but
00:42:52
it's definitely a mountain lake it's definitely a cold winter morning it's pretty good it's really good quick good
00:42:58
if you saw this on your Twitter timeline do you know it's AI uh I've seen planet Earth shots that look just like this I
00:43:04
was just going to say not even Twitter if you put this in the middle of like planet Earth for a quick 3 seconds I
00:43:10
would not think twice yeah that is well the stabilization is not quite perfect kind of wobbles a little bit as drone shots do I think if David attenburrow was speaking over that I wouldn't blink
00:43:21
an eye here we see the crane looming over the mountain lake it's the Crane's neck it it it does these sort of lateral
00:43:28
movements that if you pay attention to them yeah don't but again like 99% of people are not going to be looking for this stuff if you only saw the clip once and moved on it probably would pass your
00:43:39
what's the test uh Vibe smell Vibe check smell test sure all right one last prompt from Ellis before we take a quick break this one got a very different response a bat with vampire fangs being
00:43:52
held by a child behind Home Plate at a little league game I I hope it's a an animal bat you specifically tried to mess that one this one is pretty OB okay again The Prompt is a bat with vampire
00:44:05
fangs all right so we're talking the animal behind oh yes it is someone described this cuz I it's like a souvenir baseball bat that
00:44:16
looks one yeah yeah and it it looks like it's made out of like Playdoh yeah and it has like Playdoh vampire fangs hanging up yeah the these are more like
00:44:27
boore tusks versus that's true vampire fangs cuz they're facing upwards instead of downwards that is so funny also I don't see home plate but it does look I see the pitch Mound so this is
00:44:37
approximately PL there's a plate I think that the models are going to be good I think the models are going to be good at
00:44:43
knowing like what you mean to talk about because of the way that large language models like associate words together so
00:44:50
if you put like baseball bat it or if you say like home plate it's not going to associate that with an actual bat but
00:44:57
said vampire fangs that I I gave I gave I gave it one of each I gave what doing and I actually think that would be very
00:45:02
fun to do a lot more of those just to see what happens yeah um so overall really interesting results M I think it's really good yeah I know it's it's
00:45:15
it's really good at some things that Sora struggled with which is why it to me feels so like interesting that Google
00:45:22
would drop this right after after Sora um it's yeah it's it's just going to keep getting better at this or that Sora
00:45:28
dropped it right before Google God true yeah and you know they had the 12 Days of Christmas it got leaked they felt
00:45:33
pressure to release that comes out early now Google goes oh this is out we might have some pressure we release ours
00:45:39
there's other video generation models that are evolving very quickly there's just a lot going on Google always was going to have more data to work with you
00:45:47
know yeah are they how much cuz the entire internet is there YouTube stuff I don't know like open AI open AI had to
00:45:53
go and take everything Google just had everything on hand you know what saying do we think there's so do we think
00:46:00
there's they're not trying to say that 100% cuz they just gave us a tool to opt in
00:46:05
not yes two third parties oh third specifically didn't say YouTu so for those that don't know there was a story that came out this week YouTube is now allowing creators to opt in to
00:46:18
thirdparty training models training on their content which like I have no idea why you would want to do that I guess what they are probably planning on is like there's all these Publishers that have been striking deals with open a to
00:46:30
train on their uh news organizations's work and maybe YouTube is thinking that some YouTubers could like go to openai and say pay me a million dollars and you can trade on my content I don't think
00:46:41
that will happen but um the way that I see that story is that they specifically said third parties is there an argument that Google and YouTube are separate and
00:46:55
Google using it okay no they're I'm like really trying to find like I the same thing I looked through their
00:47:01
announcement and there there's no mention of Google or YouTube well I'm just saying Google's making vo YouTube's
00:47:07
the one saying third party I think they're both first party in this case I that's what I would agree with I just want to make sure we're I I get where
00:47:13
coming yeah or that's what they're hoping morons like me think that yeah yeah considering they have like more realistic like like Sora would probably
00:47:24
make up a fake Jaguar that's sort of vaguely based on what jaguars look like but just make them up Google just takes
00:47:31
the actual ey type right again cuz we got lots of refusals yeah we got lots of refusals from Sora on anything that had
00:47:39
any sort of potentially intellectual property with this clearly a SpongeBob clearly the Devils clearly a Jaguar like things that would not pass the same test
00:47:50
so that's that's that's a trend something to notice can someone make a meme that's like Google when a YouTuber
00:47:57
infringes on intellectual property rights and it's like someone freaking out and then like Google when Google
00:48:02
infringes on intellectual property rights someone's already making that thanks famam we're sorry anyway we
00:48:11
have gone in detail let us know what you think in the comments we should take a quick break though and before we do the
00:48:16
quick break we should do trivia trivia dude I've been getting uh complaints on the on the comments that people say I don't say trivia dude
00:48:28
enough so I'm going to start saying it again for all you out there I've been getting complaints from these lights
00:48:34
that say Hal us even though we worked perfectly all morning we're just GNA stop anyway today's trivia today's first
00:48:42
trivia question I should say is about Samsung unpacked specifically they move it all over the world which makes it different than other Tech events so they
00:48:54
only started doing that last year though that is not true never mind two years ago I've
00:49:01
been it's usually in okay which of the following cities has Samsung unpacked never been in interesting we have our first one Soul Korea MH our second one
00:49:15
Barcelona Spain MH our third one Tamp penis Singapore and uh or tanes excuse me tanese I looked up the pronunciation of that if I still got it wrong Singaporean audience please correctly
00:49:26
but tampan Singapore and finally Amsterdam Netherlands cool huh I have a 50/50 shot really mhm
00:49:40
cuz I was at the other two I've been to two and there none of them were at the some of never mind okay yeah we'll think
00:49:47
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form all right we're back so last year we did a recap episode since this is our last episode of the year we are going to do that again we called it the waveform awards last year and then everyone told us hey you morons you call everything
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else YouTube Rewind why aren't you calling this waveform rewind so I'm calling this waveform rewind good idea thank you for calling
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me a you were right uming so we're GNA do some things we did last year we have some fun questions we're going to go over some predictions we had we're going to make new predictions it's kind of how we're going to wrap this episode up but before that
00:52:19
I want to do some stats about waveform this year because they're awesome um so as of writing this not including this
00:52:25
episode we did 24.5 million views on the waveform channel which is wild to think
00:52:31
about so many dishes dude yeah so many dishes we have 8.8 million watch time hours dishes washed hours is got to be at least 100,000 I think okay 8 million
00:52:43
keep going you keep doing that okay um we gained just shy of 100,000 subscribers this year you know maybe
00:52:49
there's three weeks left you could try and hit that last 6000 Nintendo switch 2 Nintendo switch 2 we did 13 1 million
00:52:57
views in shorts which is something we really focused on a lot this year and that did great um I think the thing I'm
00:53:03
the most proud of is we posted 60 we will have posted 62 episodes of waveform this year we did a lot of bonus episodes we did four more episodes than last year
00:53:13
even though we're going to take this break now um which I think is really cool and I can't wait for 2025 I figured
00:53:19
it out 8.8 million watchtime hours is just over a thousand years of human life washing dishes I mean listening to the podcast that's impressive that's impressive that's super impressive I
00:53:32
can't believe that's a lot of dishes bro that's a lot of years yeah um audio wise we were just shy of 8 million total
00:53:39
downloads which is technically down from last year but this was the first full year after the Apple podcast change where Auto downloads sto and from what
00:53:49
I've heard podcasting across kind of the world has hit a dip and we stayed pretty even so I'm taking that as a huge win
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thank you for sticking with us thank you for being like loyal listeners who don't just listen to one hit Auto download and
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then completely forget they have 40 episodes of a podcast and I think it means a bunch of new people joined us so
00:54:08
hi welcome subscribe thanks um yes so we have some cool plans for next year um I'm super excited for it but newswise we covered a lot of
00:54:19
things there's a lot of stuff we are notoriously really bad at being like that happened this year yeah so David
00:54:25
was great and put down kind of the biggest stories and I just want to like also reiterate it with the question we
00:54:31
did last year was was there anything that happened this year that wasn't on our bingo card so do you want to say the
00:54:36
the big things and if there's anything someone really was not expecting jump out on it so I went through uh just the
00:54:43
episodes that we launched and the stories that we covered and I listed basically the biggest topics that we covered this year yeah uh Google getting
00:54:51
labeled a monopoly in search by the Department of Justice probably could have seen it coming but it actually
00:54:58
happened didn't expect it to come to fruition and it's still happening this yes in progress yeah the Vision Pro
00:55:06
technically launched that we knew was happening and is out and feels like an eternity ago that was this year that was this year it was January so it's fair uh the Humane AI pin happened this
00:55:20
year yeah it did that was this year as well yeah the rabbit R1 happened this year mhm they sure did they that was an interesting couple months for sure uh
00:55:31
the fiser Fisker went out of business this year that was definitely also this year uh Sora launched this year
00:55:39
officially only like last week but it's it got unveil and now it's out mhm yeah the Cyber truck actually came out that wasw this year lots of big things this year we were I was watching the end of
00:55:50
last year's episode and we were all debating on if we thought 25 cyber trucks came out before the end of last year yeah did that happen oh but
00:55:58
remember the BET was 25 delivered non- Tesla employee cyber trucks before the end of last year yeah before the end of
00:56:05
2023 yeah and we were all like very on the fence of if we thought that was happening it's still hard to say I think
00:56:11
it's hard to say yeah um I don't think it happened the meta Orion smart glasses happened this year we got a very super
00:56:19
thin OLED iPad Pro the Google generative search experience that kind of uh made people eat glue and rocks came out this year
00:56:30
that was fun forced them to uh nothing came out with their cmf phone which was weird cmf line right um that's a great question they launched the earbuds and
00:56:42
watched last year I thought those were all together we were talking about them all together at first oh you might be
00:56:48
right that might have all been this year and they've lost launched two watches in the yeah process right uh Apple
00:56:56
intelligence got both announced at wwc and is half out because we're still missing Siri uh the fediverse got a really big push blue sky is big and now threads is
00:57:07
Big threads by the way the day before today they announced they had 300 million users now and 100 million wait did threads come out this year no oh
00:57:18
that was last year it was last year okay wow it was last July okay which is crazy
00:57:23
because I I literally remember where I was the moment I made my account and because I have that so vivid in my head
00:57:30
it doesn't feel it feels like it was this year but also the restaurant I was in is now out of business so it's
00:57:37
clearly was a while ago yeah uh okay we had the Huawei trifold mhm which is very
00:57:43
strange got announced the same day as the iPhone the Tesla cyber cab event uh Google bard rebranding to Gemini Tech happened this year bring it
00:57:58
back B was better and the Scarlet Johansson AI uh voice mode thingy controversy happened yeah gbt so the funny thing about this
00:58:10
is like most of these were in the second half of the year it doesn't seem like a ton of stuff happened at the beginning
00:58:16
besides uh the there was like the division Pro the Cyber truck the a a pin when was the Cyber truck they were gadgety for the first start of the year it feels like yeah an
00:58:29
AI R1 was it the super thin iPad was like mid year yeah that was like June or something wow uh yeah it was a pretty big 2024 if I had to pick the thing that
00:58:40
wasn't on my bingo card it's Apple announcing a phone and its main selling point not fully coming out till literally the next calendar year yeah wouldn't have guessed that very
00:58:53
offbrand I did not have the Oran glasses on my bingo card I think that was a interesting surprise uh cuz we all saw the headsets start to come out we assumed the smart glasses thing was super far away but to
00:59:05
actually have them go on stage and just be like here we're not ever going to sell this but we still are like prototyping check this thing out that
00:59:11
was kind of out of the blue cool I think that just in itself having a company that big announce something and publicly
00:59:18
saying this isn't for sale we're not going to sell this and immediately make money on it stock price true so yes
00:59:26
they're making plenty of money on it but what I didn't have that on my bingo card of making the correct decision of not
00:59:33
immediately just trying to sell to everyone mhm or do you have a sick bingo card
00:59:38
they were all Bingo let's go um cyber cab event was that on your bingo card no that was a there's a lot at that event is that the thing that was not on your bingo card well there's that's another thing that was on like blue sky coming
00:59:54
back having the year that it did especially the last months was not on my bingo card and yeah the Cyber cab all
00:59:59
the things that happened at that event were also not on my bingo card cuz a lot of people were thinking model 2 has got
01:00:05
to be the next thing they show it's got to be this smaller version of the model 3 for these markets that we need a $25,000 car like that's what a lot of
01:00:10
people thought was coming from Tesla yeah so this was just kind of different we've had like multiple episodes where
01:00:17
we said there were reports that the model 2 got cancelled and then Elon said no they haven't been and then the
01:00:23
reports were like the model 2 is now just the cyber cab so it's it's gone back and forth quite a bit
01:00:30
um yeah I I didn't have it on my bingo cart that Google would like just force everyone to use the search generative experience no matter what MH that was definitely not on my bingo card cuz that
01:00:43
felt to me like they are literally just playing with fire allowing their robots to answer people's questions and not even like yeah yeah wait that was that
01:00:54
was this year as well oh my good yeah the like eat three rocks a day thing pulling things from Reddit yeah yeah
01:01:02
that's and just like how much they blew up their own search it felt like like I know Google's slowly been making their
01:01:10
search absolutely miserable yeah but man they they hit it home they really hit it
01:01:15
home they hit their goal yeah so what about you guys you guys have anything I think the thing that wasn't on my Bingle card the most was how quickly every everyone forgot about the Apple Vision
01:01:27
Pro yeah like it came out it was a huge deal we spoke about it constantly biggest video of the year yeah it it has like random resurgences like people on social media that discover a new cool
01:01:39
thing you could do with it and I excited about or Ellis and everyone's excited about it for like another couple days and then it kind of just like Fades into
01:01:45
the background again yeah and like for an Apple product a new VR basically Apple like that's just weird to me it went from like people taking like candid videos of
01:01:58
themselves outside like crossing the street poking things and it was everywhere and then it's just nowhere I
01:02:04
think you really need something to have that reason to come back to it every single day if you don't want it to just
01:02:09
be a blip in the news and they just don't have that right now so it could be like an original iphone where not a lot
01:02:16
of people buy it initially and then later on it just becomes crazy popular but right now it's uh it's looking a
01:02:22
little Bleak the here's an interesting stat for the video we made about it okay it blew up obviously it was one of the
01:02:28
biggest videos of the year in the first week it had 22.9 million views like a lot of people who weren't ever going to buy it were just watching that video it has since gotten roughly 1 million views
01:02:42
in the last 300 days wow wow so the chart is just yeah and people just stopped talking about stop carrying yeah that's crazy that's interesting what I didn't also did not
01:02:55
of my on my bingo card is uh Google F still not supporting RCS that's so funny on the iPhone on the iPhone that really bugs me I was
01:03:06
thinking about switching to googley and I'm just probably not going to if you're on your iPhone it will not like you
01:03:12
can't do RCS chats with Android phones yet oh that's why I was trying to text Marquez yesterday and that's why it
01:03:18
didn't work cuz I'm on on the iPhone yeah yeah I started noticing a lot of people I mean obviously they updated to
01:03:23
iOS 18 but I started getting the the the typing indicators so I've been on Android and I'm not used to getting the
01:03:30
typing indicators and when I did see one I'd be like oh another Android person that's so cool now I see it I'm like
01:03:36
yeah everyone's got these now which is cool I get to see when people are typing I did expect all the misinformation that
01:03:42
people are spreading about RCS and stuff pretty classic that's fun honestly what
01:03:47
wasn't on my bingo card was discovering I love Vision Pro I've like chilled out a little bit
01:03:55
you know but damn there was like a month or two where it was just like I was in I was in that thing all day every day
01:04:02
you've been in it within the last month yeah yeah yeah no it's it rocks man it's
01:04:07
so it's so dope it's like do you want to tell people what you're using it for specifically literally just Computing like so you're just on the computer but with the
01:04:18
headset on so your environment's different like I yeah I sit at my desk and I do my normal work but I'm wearing
01:04:25
vision Pro and I'm in Hawaii and it's night time like that's like the vibe like I don't really know a bigger screen
01:04:31
and cooler environment bigger screen cooler environment less distractions uh I don't I don't I'm not
01:04:38
a developer like I don't pay for the developer beta pass so I'm still waiting for is it 2.2 or
01:04:46
2.2.1 whichever one adds the ultra wide display right because that's going to be a game Cher for me I was going to
01:04:53
mention that so the because the you know we're not going to get a Vision Pro 2 anytime soon but I always feel like when
01:05:00
you get a first gen product that's the company trying to see what's interesting about it and see what sticks and the closest we have to a Vision Pro 2 which is when they learn okay this is what
01:05:12
worked here's their direction will go is the software updates they've put out and the fact that they're improving the
01:05:17
specifically the the Mac connect connectivity and like adding an ultrawide and adding more capabilities
01:05:22
there what people really like it for it tells me that that's one of the primary uses of the pro it's just it
01:05:29
it's the resolution the resolution is so good it's so high like it just feels so
01:05:35
natural to use and then being able to like like typically what I do is I have all my work stuff on the virtual display
01:05:41
and then like slack I'm running the Vision Pro app for and it's like floating off to the side and then
01:05:47
because of universal control my mouse will automatically go from my computer to The Vision Pro it's just like you
01:05:54
know what I really don't like though I used it with the Mac Mini the other day and if you're not using a magic keyboard
01:05:59
and Magic Mouse you cannot see your keyboard and mouse it only recogniz stuff same with the trackpad um
01:06:07
like you can't see it uh but I have I've figured out like the perfect environment
01:06:12
setting to where I can still see my hands um and then when you have it like at that halfway a little past halfway
01:06:19
point if you're in a nighttime environment even though the environment's like mostly in front of you if you turn around it matches the
01:06:25
Lighting in the room you're in dims the room dims the it's so would it be weird if we were all
01:06:31
wearing Vision Pros all day in the studio yes yeah well maybe it wouldn't be weird cuz we'd all be in our own
01:06:37
environments we wouldn't even noticed yeah i''d be in Hawaii yeah I'd be a crane Y no one even thought about it
01:06:44
everyone's just like yes yeah that weird I'm just like when you're describing I'm like maybe I should do that more often
01:06:49
and then I'm picturing like several people in the office doing it I'm like what if we all do I don't want the nightmares of saying hey Marquez and
01:06:55
having you turn around in your eyes you just bothering people for a minute I was reviewing that just walking
01:07:01
around Pro people were like I can't talk to you while you're wearing this I was like yeah that's fair you you walked
01:07:07
into the studio like a few weeks ago when I was wearing it and you just stopped by my desk and stared at me and
01:07:13
said I did you said you said right this is how the world is now I remember that you've got bug eyes
01:07:21
yeah I wonder if Samsung's going to do that with theirs with the eyes on the outside probably not a great question
01:07:26
probably not yeah all right so we should make some predictions for 2024 right 2025 well let's look at our predictions from last year and then make our
01:07:37
predictions okay sure yeah okay let's do that um all right so this was last year we have a split up of these David said
01:07:45
multi multimodal AI is going to take off and be integrated into everything Adam said that was the safest prediction
01:07:51
possible that's true would we say I would say it got integrated into everything I wouldn't necessarily say it took off I I wouldn't say everything I would say the important things it got
01:08:04
integrated into like Google the things we feel like there visual search on the iPhone right now that's basically multimodal there's Gemini has the back and forth with what am I looking at kind
01:08:15
of thing there's the ren met glasses that's fair yeah yeah I think that would be a successful production yeah I do agree yeah it hasn't taken off quite as
01:08:25
much even though if I'm talking about AI stuff that's probably the one except for
01:08:30
if you just want to know what person's dog is just ask them what the dog is don't ask to take picture asking them if
01:08:36
I can take a picture of their dog and then figuring out everything yeah how's your don't tell me don't tell me how old
01:08:44
is this I need the AI is he a good boy I got it it's Charlie now yeah uh yeah no
01:08:50
I think that's a fair prediction all right Marquez you had Hasselblad releases a camera and one that shoots AK
01:08:56
video or video at all he's or video at all he said or video at all but it's AK here's the problem everything that you just said I'm looking up the x2d release date
01:09:09
so the x2d came out in September 20122 and I'm pretty sure they promised it would shoot video with a software update and it still doesn't yeah they yeah I don't remember the x1d at least had a
01:09:20
section on the camera in the software that said video and it said coming soon and it just no it never added and the
01:09:26
x2d the x2d is the number one camera where I'm like I don't need it I don't need it I don't need it there is no
01:09:32
reason for me to have an x2d but I want it so bad and I'm like maybe I could justify it if I could occasionally shoot
01:09:38
like handheld video clips on and I could use them at home or whatever and I'm fairly sure even though it came out
01:09:43
before 2024 they still never added video so yeah I think I failed here I think they did not announce any cameras with
01:09:50
video and that's just how the world is now they also just got rid of the video section entirely on the next one on the
01:09:56
x2d so they didn't even promise it no they walked back yeah yeah you don't even get the the hope I was I think this
01:10:03
was more of a like hope than a prediction yeah but it didn't come true uhhuh all right Ellis you said Holograms
01:10:11
okay so I just want to say if you're look look look look listen all you haters all right look sure maybe we haven't seen him in the
01:10:24
news but if you're like me and you're deep in that hologram web Community you would know that the two leading companies voxon photonics has uh Fox
01:10:34
photonics and lightfield Labs have made great developments in their products this year Foxon photonics new I forget
01:10:42
what the name of it is I think they just call like the voxon display it looks great it has a new housing you can buy
01:10:47
one for $6,800 it's pretty sweet uh lightfield Labs seems a little more and more kind of scam but um but but I'm not going to call it because I still have faith they had a
01:11:00
press release a few days ago that they just you can now go see one of their hologram
01:11:06
machines at uh the seti Institute oh um so that's pretty cool looking glass also
01:11:13
came out with some products this year um they came out with the like the one that attaches to your computer and it's like
01:11:19
a little side by side display and they also uh you can integrate it with chat GPT now and it'll talk to you which is interesting and it looks like they have like a like a 3D volumetric picture
01:11:34
frame thing now too yeah okay so yeah so I'm not an expert in this but I'm about to drop my uh what little knowledge I
01:11:41
have so the the CEO Vox on did this cool interview a little bit ago where he was like we got to start we got to drop the
01:11:47
word hologram because Holograms refer to this thing like what I if I understand it correctly like this uh Proto display thing um that David just mentioned and
01:12:00
if I'm looking at the right thing like looking glass go yeah yeah which is a hologram the way we know it like those
01:12:05
things that you like move side to side and it like gives perspectives you know what I mean what voxon and lightfield
01:12:10
labs are developing are called volumetric displays which is think of a display but instead of pixels we have
01:12:16
these things called voxels which are 3D pixels mhm um so they're sort of slightly like this is still pixels just with like perspective information the other ones have voxel anyway so while I
01:12:28
will concede there were bigger news stories this year the volumetric display train just keeps on a rolling fair enough true how close are we to I'm
01:12:40
going to embarrass myself is it the first Star Wars that they had Princess Leia and the yeah how close are we to
01:12:46
that uh I don't no so the big thing right now is both of these companies it seems like they are these selfon things like think of like a fish tank and then it can exist in there and then
01:12:59
you could walk a full 360° around this thing and you're still still able to see it but as far as like throwing a
01:13:07
projection that's still pretty specialized I don't know if that exists yet right I think a lot of people have
01:13:13
not yet figured out totally how to commercialize hologram technology but there is still a a group of very
01:13:20
dedicated people who want to make it a reality just because they want to make Star Wars again you know yeah like so
01:13:26
that's cool and I think that will keep advancing uh over time so yeah let's go to the next one we got I was watching it back and I like I
01:13:37
don't think I ever actually said one whether I was scared or got caught up in it um I did agree with something David
01:13:43
said which was a major software redesign for the Apple watch I don't believe that
01:13:49
did they did have a software redesign was a software redesign but it wasn't like major yeah it wasn't major yeah
01:13:55
they kind of just tacked on tiles which is like a feature I would not say that came true yeah we we thought they would have everyone thought there would be like a crazy 10th gen new redesign for
01:14:06
the whole watch well it got thinner it got thinner it looks exactly the same as the last one it's like all right you
01:14:12
made it thinner which is 10% thinner it's thin last I believe the exact words we used last year when we were talking about this was a complete redesign of the watch complete that did not Happ I
01:14:23
don't think that happen we were picturing like Moto 360s and like they hyped it up like it was a complete redesign they did talk about from the
01:14:30
ground up the lightest we've ever made yeah okay and then Adams which I really liked he said we're going to stray away from transparent Tech and get more
01:14:43
colors no what what are you talking about it's been all about transparent Tech this year transparent Tech came out this year other than of it the ones that already were stayed transparent we made
01:14:53
a whole video about I think there's just as much transparent Tech as there is new colorful Tech and I will argue the
01:14:59
colors just continue to get less colorful it feels like bro I ordered a purple iPad accidentally and thought it was silver for like a week before Adam told me that's purple so desaturated
01:15:12
Counterpoint Counterpoint iPhone 16s really saturated more saturated than they've Ultra Marine exactly rabbit R1 the most orange thing a human being has
01:15:23
ever made cmf cmf no transparent stuff there get them Ellis yeah let's go let's get them I'm pretty sure every single new iMac is less saturated than the iMac before it that's from Generations all of
01:15:37
the pro iPhones are still just like more and more silver essentially like they're
01:15:43
like the lroy of colors it it just doesn't feel like we're getting super colorful you make a good point with
01:15:49
rabbit though that was a color that essentially broke cameras you know we did get a lot of this year you are right
01:15:54
about IMAX you know we did get a lot of this year that I'm like very glad we got we got a lot of uh weird game console stuff
01:16:03
like there was a there was there's always new special editions of the um PlayStation no of the analog pocket
01:16:10
analog pocket that like Game Boy thing yeah they always do new colors and new like fun things but then we got we got
01:16:17
the Arms Dealer game boy this year yeah it's colorful too yeah it was uh Palmer luy Game Boy oh so we got an arms dealer Game Boy we got a bunch of new weird Amber neck
01:16:29
handhelds which are like the the weird Chinese ROM is that the stuff that you find on dead whales sometimes you find
01:16:37
wait what what Adam gets it you can keep going okay Amber ambergis oh it's fine I'm hanging around just we can just keep going I don't know it's just it felt and then um analog PS well yeah yeah but
01:16:54
analog also came out uh or at least announced it's N64 redo this year as well so yeah I don't know there's like a a lot of really cool retro just shingal
01:17:04
onto they are they really are they're like what if we had what you had in your childhood but it was
01:17:10
metal and you would pay $400 for it yeah and everyone who did had it during have it during their childhood is very
01:17:16
excited about it yes and everyone who didn't have it during their childhood at least I'm speaking for some of them are
01:17:21
very confused yeah like oh you want a Game Boy again but more but more and you still have to
01:17:27
buy the cartridges okay cool cool cool cool to Adam's point a lot of these things are very colorful that's that was
01:17:33
my that's fair yeah I wish things were more colorful yeah I agree cool we get some transparent stuff though so that's
01:17:40
true yeah do we want to do our predictions real quick I am unprepared but I will think of one I will try I
01:17:47
have one I had one and I forgot kick us off if you have start hit us my prediction is someone will get the AI
01:17:55
wearable right disagree someone will get the AI so like do the meta rayan glasses
01:18:02
where my head went too but not everyone is just walking around wearing meta Rayband glasses like if you have them
01:18:08
you have them you love them I'm sure I I want a pair but I wouldn't say they're right I think they're the closest but I
01:18:15
think this year someone will get it right when you if you define get it right is that like it's in the Z guys
01:18:21
regular people are buying like it's a success people people I would people are buying it but people want it cuz there's
01:18:26
levels to success there's airpods which is like amazing success but there's also Tesla Model 3 success there's also
01:18:35
you know Canon or Sony a6000 which is like in a community that's into this stuff it's very successful I would consider an a6000 to be a complete success if they much more successful
01:18:47
than even like an A so you probably never seen them on the street but everyone who knows knows yeah and everyone who knows wants one okay like
01:18:53
even if it's like Google pushes a software update to the pixel buds if it's like the meta Ray bands get significantly more powerful like
01:19:00
something like that do you think Google's going to release the new glasses that they keep teasing yeah I have so many follow
01:19:07
Google Glass 3 does airpods getting Apple intelligence count no because Apple intelligence isn't there yet but if it gets it if there's some amazing Siri talking translating something yeah if it
01:19:20
if it comes out and it blows everyone away I will consider that a successful okay okay I think that all of the like
01:19:30
AI big stuff is just going to like your expectations need to lower and then that'll be where it's at in your phone it'll be like RP Google
01:19:42
Assistant um pour one out I miss you Gemini is just going to be like doing more stuff and Siri's just going to do more stuff is that a cold
01:19:55
take that's definitely going to happen no we thought it was GNA happen this year I don't think there's going to be a separate wearable that like really off I
01:20:02
see but well I can segue into my prediction do it so my prediction will either be I think right or super wrong rabbit
01:20:14
R2 I think they survive long enough but since it's not subscription base and it is taking compute power for each person that could potentially still be using it they'll need to release a new one so
01:20:25
that they can charge money for it I don't think it'll be much different I don't think it will have a lot of
01:20:31
success but I would not be surprised if we got a rabbit AR tun that's a good pick and if we don't I wouldn't be
01:20:37
surprised if that's because rabbit folded yeah yeah speaking of that you know how Humane recently was like Hey
01:20:45
guys uh you can use our OS if you pay us money right cuz they recently were like
01:20:50
Cosmos isn't just for the Humane AI pin it's yeah this was like three weeks ago yeah they like did this whole press thing being like we spent so much money and time engineering this aios for the
01:21:02
AI pin you could actually use this in like a car or something if you wanted to and they were basically just trying to
01:21:08
vet like people to use them as an aios company instead of as an AI hardware company MH so I don't know if they're going to make any sales
01:21:19
but I think Humane gets sold this year oo I would surprised okay they successfully do what they've been trying to do probably not to HP but probably to someone else to Fisker uh will they be
01:21:34
sold for more or less than Juan Soto's current contract $765 million Jesus Christ
01:21:42
oh I think that's actually a great number to be looking at for that it could be less easily easily but
01:21:51
it could be more easily cuz there sales it's like do you care about the sales or Talent is you're yeah you're acquiring
01:21:56
the talent cuz there is like oh I guess I said current aside there are some talented people talent's kind of been
01:22:02
exposed at this point dang it's tough it is tough they have designers clearly but they also
01:22:07
have uh a long way to go yeah that is a good overera I would say 500 million haven't
01:22:16
they raised that much they raised more 400 million I think no I mean it's it's hard to know exactly how much they raise cuz they don't they don't have to like publicly disclose it but it seems like estimated they raised in between 200 and
01:22:31
I'm going to say $310 million so if they could sell for Wan stto money that's pretty cool that's
01:22:38
pretty cool good for them yeah yeah you could just around for eight years and net like 500 mil yeah that's just called
01:22:46
the Roadster so welcome to Silicon Valley um I've come up with a with a prediction okay let's hear it that I'm excited for uh the browser Wars are back
01:22:59
yes the browser Wars at least heat up again and our interesting because at this point it feels pretty stable it
01:23:05
feels like people who use Safari use Safari people who use Chrome use Chrome people who use alt browsers use alt
01:23:11
browsers and there's a little bit of people like sometimes leaving Chrome for uh I I switched to Arc you know there's a couple people doing the the browser dance but I think maybe with all this
01:23:21
antitrust with some some Google pressure maybe with maybe a new search engine or maybe Apple does something interesting
01:23:28
with Safari I think we could see some version of the browser wors heating up whether it's on desktop or mobile do you think Chrome has to be either sold or
01:23:34
divested this year I don't think it has to happen for the browser Wars to heat up but I think yeah just something
01:23:41
something happening whether it's the default uh search engine being a thing that kind of just gets up for grabs in some major browser something happens in 2025 I think that could heat up the
01:23:52
browser worth could be fun a lot of people are trying to rearchitecturing like Safari never mind lame damn never mind I've been having the opposite
01:24:17
experience where I was like you know what Ellis like you're boring like let's try let's try another browser and then I
01:24:22
was like Safari has tab group groups now stay in here brother yeah every eight months they add like an old feature that every other old browser has had and they go look at this thing we invented and
01:24:33
everyone goes all right Safari is pretty good yeah yeah Ellis is just over the moon it's good it's good that they add
01:24:39
stuff yeah that's my that's my prediction okay my prediction and you I've said it before
01:24:46
I'll say it again Microsoft will not be adding live translations to any product they ship in 2025 you heard it here first not even
01:24:58
teams video call and you know what you know what was really awesome mhm just to like uh just to make sure I had all the
01:25:04
facts I needed to make that prediction I Googled Microsoft ads live translation press release yeah I found articles from
01:25:12
every year for the past five years saying Microsoft's adding live translation really every year it's just
01:25:19
at at a certain point it's like their Christmas party invite you know what I mean t full self driving anyway so micos
01:25:26
if Microsoft if you're listening prove me wrong this could be the year I will what are you willing to do if they add
01:25:31
it oh I look I'm a I'm I'm a man of of character of of good moral character I will admit that I'm wrong I will get right up here and I'll sit at the big
01:25:42
table on 4K and be like Microsoft he'll lay across the table I didn't believe you but uh you know I'll I'll really eat my words in public and and be willing to
01:25:52
be the guy who was wrong but I just like will you shave your head no I haven't what what is it will you take a dab of the bomb the bomb while crying a Dab's
01:26:04
not that bad I you can do that a teaspoon I I will I think if 100 engineers get together and build this
01:26:10
impossible thing in the next year then you should take a dab of D bomb yeah I I'll let's let I I'll eat something like
01:26:17
unbelievably spicy in this room I don't know if it'll be a dab of the bomb I don't know we while giving your
01:26:22
concession speech yeah no no no totally no no we'll um we'll figure out the specifics but yes Microsoft if you're
01:26:29
able to do the impossible and make good on your word that again you started promising almost 15 years ago at this
01:26:36
point I will melt my taste buds for and if it does not happen SAA has to do that for you if for sure he's in on it he's
01:26:43
listening right now obviously honestly SAA if it doesn't happen just send me one of the hard hats that you sell with Hollow lens and sign it and like that's enough for me
01:26:54
I mean I I have a lot of predictions of things I don't think will happen in 2025 but that's a little more boring
01:26:59
Roadster Roadster is not happening in 20125 cyber taxi is not happening in 2025 Roven is not happening in 2025 Ren's never happen maybe uh maybe Jaguar
01:27:11
has some interesting predictions around it do they ship a car that people buy I thought the whole thing was that it
01:27:16
wasn't cop their release wasn't till 2026 anyways never mind yeah what do you think the pixel 10's going to look like next year oh that's a fun one cuz we think that the tensor chip finally does
01:27:28
the thing tensor 5 is supposed to be tsmc based oh that could be good yeah I want that to be good I don't I don't
01:27:34
want to fall in the Trap of making a prediction if it's just something I want to happen cuz that's what I've done before but this is the year for Pixel 10
01:27:41
do you think Google will have a big uh like splashy redesign of the hardware because it's the 10th the 10th one cuz the nine is already very refined so I
01:27:52
think they do the tick tock strategy of updating the outside then the inside and the outside so there we had this new
01:27:59
flat visor thing this year outside got updated but tensor is still tensor I think pixel 10 inside gets rejuvenated
01:28:07
very exciting I think pixel 11 outside gets changed again but that's 2026 I think that's a fair prediction
01:28:14
yeah okay well we should take a break we should we should come back we've talked our faces off um before that one more
01:28:22
trivia question you got thinking really hard at the end of that he's worried I'm just trying to think if I
01:28:35
I've talked so much year I was just like do I have any other predictions I have a thing for next for the next after the ad
01:28:40
break okay it is an optimistic question okay what's that that all right question
01:28:46
number two project muhan remember Google Daydream when it was announced in May of
01:28:54
2016 oh man Google said that it would be built into the next release of their Android operating system which
01:29:02
was oh I think I know this question mark question mark question mark So what operating system yep I think I know this
01:29:10
just assume I get these ones wrong I have a guess but yeah I will accept the number or the treat that it was named after cardb yeah I'm right unless I'm wrong and which I was just
01:29:21
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expecting okay last year we did worst product of the year I think we all kind of know a few things we would we already
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just made fun of half the worst products of the year so let's do favorite product of the year maybe that's I'll I'll open
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it up to this favorite product that got released this year or favorite thing product you bought this year so I'll
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I'll let it be a little more open I mean I have one pretty obvious one that I'm using oh one right in front of me this
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is that's okay so what is it first for audio listeners yeah so for me it's both I bought this one and I reviewed this
01:32:27
this year it's the M4 MacBook Pro mhm it has the uh nanotexture display and for those wondering I mean I have taken really good care of it and
01:32:39
it's holding up fine it does have a couple little marks on it that aren't coming off but in general when I'm looking at it from reasonable angles it
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looks fantastic and I almost like for foret that there are things I could be reflecting like it looks that good all
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the time so it's been incredible it's super performant I have all my stuff on it I got rid of my home Mac Studio and I
01:33:04
now plug this into a dock and so I have all my documents and everything this computer goes with me everywhere this is this is a good one
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yeah and this is cuz you had an M1 before this M1 Max when was the last time you
01:33:18
didn't hop on like the newest cuz like you're always pushing that and it's yeah what I've thought is really impressive about the M series is it got Marquez brownley to not immediately upgrade and
01:33:30
wait three iterations before actually I didn't I mean again it's it was the two main things that I do on my laptop which is all the everyday around the studio stuff and then once in a while I need to
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edit a video on my laptop and so I could use a MacBook Air I could use any laptop
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for 99% of the stuff but it's for oh I will also need to go to the Apple event and edit the entire video in the hotel
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room while I'm there that two three times a year thing requires a powerful machine with a high resolution display and and I went with the 14-inch laptop this time hopefully that doesn't come
01:34:05
back to bite me I have not edited a video on it yet but I think I can and I can mess with the window sizes and do my
01:34:11
coloring and and probably get it done so I it's been awesome for the 99% I'm waiting for having to edit a video but
01:34:17
it's been phenomenal what about for the 1% the 1% of things where I'm just editing a video well you said it's
01:34:22
awesome for the 99 well 99% is all the daily activities that are not editing videos I was trying to make like a
01:34:29
really wealthy people joke yeah sorry sorry yeah so great laptop came out this year I bought one this year it's good cool yeah mine is the an bernick
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rg35 SP which is a Game Boy Advance SP clone um ROM machine mhm and I had a lot of fun with it I got to this year I played
01:34:54
a lot of games from my childhood that I like never finished because my attention span was too short and I actually
01:34:59
finished them so that was good um and it would cost me like $40 so it was a pretty good pretty good purchase I also want to shout out the pixelbuds Pro 2 because I have fully switched over to
01:35:11
them I really like them um they also have a nice mint color mint gr color I really like that they have um they have dual what do they call it when when the
01:35:25
Bluetooth can connect to multiple devices multi Point yeah a multipoint Bluetooth which in my opinion if you
01:35:31
don't have an iPad and you have a computer and a phone because it connects to two things that's like all I need and it is like more stable than the H2 chip
01:35:42
in my airpods Pro was before then wow I like the shape more um yeah I like them a lot they're cool sweet I think mine is a keyboard obviously but I think a
01:35:56
keyboard that's more suited towards the the gamer the person out there that doesn't want to build it there's the Zen
01:36:02
blade 65 it is a hall effect keyboard which has been super popular this year but it's a hall effect keyboard that has a great build quality and stock feels and sounds very good I think it if you
01:36:14
wanted to upgrade it all you would have to do is buy a nice set of key caps and maybe Lube the stabilizers which you can
01:36:21
do without taking the whole thing apart other than that great build quality hall effect is is really awesome for gaming
01:36:27
and if you get the silver one which I think is the only version and you get the silver MKBHD Escape key it matches
01:36:33
chef's kiss looks the black logo the black logo yeah sick it's like $300 still but most gaming keyboards are like $200 to $300 at this point especially hall effect it feels like what about you
01:36:45
guys uh mine is the Marvel unlimited subscription I got really into like reading comics this year and just having that like backlog of comics to go through has been awesome like anytime
01:36:57
that you're just bored sitting on the Subway or something you just whip that out and read for a bit it's pretty cool
01:37:05
Ellis I don't know there wasn't really a lot I mean Vision Pro is cool but I would never I would never buy that you got your keyboard that didn't really come out this year yeah but you got it this year
01:37:17
that's true I do like that thing a lot butb my the piano I have at home but even that thing has some some flaws I
01:37:23
was going to say Microsoft flight simulator 2024 but it's unplayable garbage so I
01:37:30
would actually change my answer to Microsoft flight simulator 2020 which is an unbelievably terrific experience cool and I'm assuming way cheaper now I have Game Pass so I
01:37:44
couldn't tell you um but uh can't wait till 2024 works because then I will switch but until then I'll be stuck on 2020 awesome cool one more thing to wrap it
01:37:56
up this worked well last year we want to do our favorite soundbite of the Year sound bites again they they're in our shows a lot but I don't think people understand how much we play them in the
01:38:08
this room yeah it's probably 10 times more than it is on the the podcast but I think a bunch of us have some favorite
01:38:14
ones whether they were this year or not will be very hard to remember do you want to throw us through a couple
01:38:20
greatest hits from this year or do you have a few sure yeah I mean we could start off with the classic that made it
01:38:26
on this year that I don't think we'll ever leave and it is this one that's that's fine that's that's what I wrote
01:38:33
down it's it's do people know what that is it's David making like a party making
01:38:38
a party can you recreate it right now perfectly it's going to be so much worse this this it only happens when you don't
01:38:44
try you can't do a magic twice you just got to do it once once yeah I could do it perfectly I just don't feel like also shout out to the people that also watch the studio
01:38:55
Channel and noticed that Ellis put that in that section yeah that's the reason why I think it's my favorite it expanded
01:39:04
outside of the podcast did you only use it in studio Universe was it in a main Channel at all no it's never been on the main Channel yet smartphone Awards
01:39:16
intro I just sit down so that that was my favorite I was pretty sure you were going to play it that was a great one
01:39:22
then there is also this I don't remember this was this year either but personally it's one of my favorite I just don't get
01:39:28
to use it a lot do you have Birds I got Birds boys that was this year yeah that was this year I believe so cuz I think I
01:39:35
got that the bird feeder this year yeah bird buddy do you still have Birds um I need to find a new way to stake it into my ground and I've been very distracted I need to get it up again it's also
01:39:47
freezing outside maybe you could use a pork trap there's still Birds but it's pork trap yeah what
01:39:53
he staked it into the ground my favorite sound bite of this year was not in an actual episode because Andrew said it while we were sound checking but uh Andrew dropped this bad boy on us a few
01:40:05
months ago who nice I thought it was going be something crazy I was very worried what did we say I rewatched last year and the majority
01:40:16
of worry I have I have plenty of crazy ones like uh like what I don't even know what this one is we have so many crazy
01:40:23
wave four moments like do you remember this I'm not making up a Pata yes vividly that was that was one of the best episodes what so that was was that
01:40:36
the Trivia episode uh it was 215 I don't remember what that was I just remember talking about o c I was gone that week
01:40:43
because I remember I came back and you guys kept reciting and I was like what are you it was a trivia question I think it was a question and then everyone said
01:40:49
you didn't know what a fata is and I was like really yeah well yeah yeah that's fine I know wait that's
01:40:56
fine I mean this is very off track do you remember when we you pinged everyone on our Discord to ask them if they knew
01:41:02
what a plum was but that was that was not 2020 no no it was not it just feels like the have we told people about that
01:41:09
what I it's the only time in our Discord at everyone has ever been pinged and we were just having a debate on if people
01:41:16
knew what plums were like I needed data I needed a sample size and Hey listen some people so we were talking about it
01:41:22
in the studio yeah and somehow fruits came up and then plums came up and I think someone said I don't think I've ever eaten a plum and someone else was like what do you mean you've never eaten
01:41:33
a plum everyone's had a plum and then the debate was like wait no plums are not a common fruit so then we had this
01:41:39
whole like have you ever had a plum before a lots of people I know have never had a plum before blah blah and we had to figure it out so I went to the Discord and I said at all at everyone at
01:41:46
everyone I need to know if you even know what a plum is and then what did you do
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and then I hit s and then and then I just like the Joker just just walked away from the ex you closed Discord and
01:42:00
walked away but we got a ton of answers and I think it was close to 50/50 there was actually like a reasonable like position in that debate which is plums are not very common but some people find it crazy that they're not very Comm
01:42:11
they're delicious though they're great great if you made it this far in the episode comment if you've had a plum
01:42:17
before or if you know what a plum is or if you don't even know what a plum is that'd be great uh yeah well you know here's
01:42:25
here's to another year of waveform and great sound bites and hopefully learning about egg dishes and all sorts of fruits
01:42:30
we've never heard of um thank you for watching and listening and making this year possible I think the only thing left to do is end with trivia there was
01:42:42
a conversation that somehow went from cannibalism into it was [Laughter] David that's that's a good one that's a question number one which of the
01:42:59
following cities has Samsung unpacked never been held in a soul South Korea yeah South Korea I don't know why you can just say Korea sorry guys South Korea two B Barcelona Spain I don't know
01:43:13
why I said two I'm really losing it here uh three Tamp tampones tanese Singapore
01:43:21
or D Amsterdam Netherlands my last brain cell is like barely hanging on today I don't know what's happen I'm doing the thing where I think I'm answering the trick question yeah which always means
01:43:33
I'm wrong yeah that means I'm wrong too but are you right sounds like we're oh oh we all
01:43:40
pick different things oh okay well I said Soul which is funny because Samsung's headquartered there so I figured that funny non answer last year they did it exactly and that was their
01:43:51
first one in Korea oh that's the one two years ago they did in Paris I'll say why I picked this as a trick question I
01:43:58
said Barcelona cuz I assumed it was mwc not unpacked it was well there was an unpacked at mwc at mwc Samsung has been referring to their event as unpacked uh since long
01:44:11
before it was its Standalone event like they refer to their mwc thing as unpacked that kind I assumed I was wrong
01:44:18
on that one I put Amsterdam Amsterdam is correct it has never made it to Amsterdam um and I just want to say on
01:44:24
the theme of tech companies writing their own blogs and spreading misinformation about themselves in these
01:44:30
blogs Samsung you have two blog posts one of which says that the very first Galaxy unpacked was in Las Vegas in 2010 and you have another blog post that says the very first unpacked was in Singapore
01:44:42
in 2009 so make up your mind I guess like dous quick update on the score Marquez with one Andrew with one two he's carrying it
01:44:57
folks zero while carries the one we got it David in the lead with three after that correct question CH slow down call me Wolverine with my three claws he's got six but sure so remember Google
01:45:11
Daydream yeah which operating system was it built into first after it was announced in May of 2016 but there's a difference between
01:45:21
going down like this and going like down like that you know well they have Jets attached to them yeah so the Jets like push them forward push them forward and as long as the force pushing them
01:45:32
forward is higher than gravity it's like a fish swimming through water yes gravity is pulling the fish down but
01:45:37
there's a certain Force holding the fish up do the water shareholder value do boat that was a sound bite by
01:45:45
the way yeah not audio listener shareholder value I still get people tweeting at me that say but how do boats
01:45:51
work David shareholder value flip him and read what do we got we're close David I said nougat correct and I said
01:46:06
seven correct Andrew I said seven nougat I said nine wrong I meant no that's not right with our powers combined Marquez we could know any I was like I looked at N I was like that's
01:46:19
seven oh that's seven sick great yeah okay thanks for sticking with us many more trivia questions many more episodes many more fun news topics and things
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coming up in 2025 wow this feels weird to say that out loud 2025 right around the corner we'll see you
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then bye see you next year Nintendo switch 2 Nintendo switch I'm the dad I'm supposed to make this see you next year joke oh yeah guys I have an announcement it no outro no nothing
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