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what's going on people of the internet welcome back to another fun episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts
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I'm Marquez and I'm Andrew and this week we actually have a guest that we're going to bring on in a second that I have a pretty fun conversation with
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fellow YouTuber Zach AKA Jared everything I think some people think his
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name is Jerry so I want to make that clear Zach AKA J rig everything um fellow Tech YouTuber I've loved his
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channel for a long time you've watched his videos of course who hasn't I feel like we kind of all have seen a lot of them including some of the more famous
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ones where he snaps an iPad in half he's got some deeper grooves at a level seven
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I always remember the um the legion Duo 2 right where snapped twice in two
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places yeah yeah some fun some fun moments I got to ask him a lot of stuff that I've been sort of wondering about I
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think this is the fun part about interviewing creators is inevitably we have a lot in common in some areas of
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our workflows or our topics or our interests so we talked about how we got into being a tech person but also a lot
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of the project he's working on I'm fascinated I hope you asked this I've always wanted to know whenever we get a
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review unit in the Embargo it says like you cannot purposely damage it okay I literally asked him about that but he
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had a great answer and it's sort of examples to go along with it so that's really fun uh I talked to him about the
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the wheelchair project he's working on sort of building a little company over there and also the electric vehicle that
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he's built by himself and how that project came to be awesome there's a lot going on over there at J rig everything
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headquarters which turns out to be uh several buildings all on one property
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that he can sort of move back and forth in between and make his stuff that's amazing it's a good time it's a fun
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lesson it's great for this week so without any further Ado let's roll the interview
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all right Zach thank you for joining me welcome to the waveform podcast uh good
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to have you happy to be here so it's uh it's the middle of September right now there's a lot going on uh I
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feel like we both have very different versions of a lot going on at this point in the year
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um but I just I just wanted to jump in with like the the sort of intro that you
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give like when you have to explain to someone what you do who doesn't know do you have like a quick elevator speech
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version or a succinct thing you explain to family at the Thanksgiving table or something like that
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if I the super short version is just I review technology from the inside
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um and that encompasses a portion of what I do you know taking
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things apart seeing how they work how they're put together how they're manufactured um that's kind of what I enjoy doing and
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what I enjoy showing off I feel like that's one of those things that you hear it and the natural follow-up question is
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like oh have you always been into like working with their hands or like taking things apart that sort of thing I
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imagine it's probably a yes yeah I mean one of my earliest memories um and this
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is super illegal now but when I was a little kid um there weren't as many laws until like
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which seat you should be sitting in and like which car seat you should be in and stuff and so I would sit in the
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passenger seat next to my mom but I would sit upside down with my head underneath the dashboard so I could look
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up and see all the wires behind the dashboard like next to the glove compartment yeah and like you would just
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drive around and I'd be upside down with my head in the dash just so I could pretend like I knew what was going on
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sounds weird but it was super interesting to me at the time that is like a thanks in hindsight mom but also
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what were you thinking Mom but thanks mom like you know it's cool yeah
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don't try this at home now or in your car now kids yeah if you're if you're listening
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um okay what is the story what's the story behind the name I think you probably have the the sort of like
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people don't know if your name is Jerry or not happening um I wonder where Jerry rig everything
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came from it it makes intuitive sense to me but maybe you have like a story behind coming up with it yeah so most of
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the time like when someone recognize me on the street you know at a restaurant or at the store or something like that they'll be like hey you're the you're
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Jerry right and I'll just just kind of roll with it um but my name is actually Zach
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um the Jerry rig everything came from um I was
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when I originally started YouTube my channel name was green do ocean because
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I really liked Mountain Dew at the time but I realized as I had you know a
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couple thousand subscribers that you know YouTube could actually be like a viable job and like I would have to come
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up with a light a slightly more memorable and reputable name I guess
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um and so I was laying in bed one at like 2 A.M when most of my good ideas come and I realized that
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um you know my channel and kind of like the theme of what I do is you know Jerry rigging stuff and Jerry rig is also the
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name of my grandpa who is kind of like one of the people I really look up to
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um you know when he first got married he lived in the back of a gas station and then when he died he you know was a very
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very successful businessman had a bunch of houses it was just a really cool he's so when I look up to a lot and so Jerry
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Rigg is both a combination of the phrase Jerry rig as well as kind of like a way
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to remember uh my grandpa Jerry that is pretty cool I I know now I think I when
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I first was watching her videos I was like oh yeah Jerry I definitely thought that that was your name so I'm glad that
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that's much more clear well is that your current account though you had that name for your current account that you
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changed to Jerry everything so back then so I think I've been doing YouTube for like nine or ten years back
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then you couldn't change your name you had to just delete your account start over and so you'll notice if you go back
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to my first videos there's like 40 of them that are kind of all uploaded on the same day or the same week and that's
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because I deleted my old account and uploaded all the videos to a new account with the correct name now YouTube is way
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more you know you can change your name whenever you want wow so you had like a moment where you were like oh I'm going
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to be doing this YouTube thing to a degree where I want to be proud of the name of it I think I should make that
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conscious decision when in your life cycle of a YouTuber was that exactly it
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was so like when I first started uploading videos I kind of just wanted to do it um just kind of like a video Journal of
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all my different projects you know I used YouTube um for a lot of things and it's kind of want to contribute back to that
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um that platform um and one of the ways I was using it is I was my Jeep at the time broke down and
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so I got on YouTube and I found someone with the exact same problem I had and instead of taking it to a shop to fix it
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for a thousand bucks this guy could fix it for 80 by himself and so I messaged
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him and I was like you know your video was so helpful to me and saved me so much money like why do you do this and
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he said it's because um I want to decrease World suck
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help people out and at the same time you know YouTube pays me a little bit of money and so that was kind of like what
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got me going on the platform and I kind of you know I filmed my my Automotive
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projects motorcycle projects and then I realized it was a conscious decision that if I wanted to grow my audience
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passed you know the small circle of people interested in automotive repairs I would have to expand the type of
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content I made into phone tear downs and then durability tests and then into EVs
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and then building my own EV and then accessibility and just kind of grow it out from there each kind of chapter of
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my channel is a conscious growth decision I guess yeah I feel like a lot of the same a lot
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of the same stuff I've done where like you have a core topic that you start off with but you you have more interests and
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you're able to sort of loop them in because they work with the the theme and you're good at it obviously like I I
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watch you tear up out a part of phone sometimes and I just sort of like mesmerized a little bit I like oh that's
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kind of awesome that you just sort of know right off the top of your head also do you know right off the top of your head like you open a phone you you know
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where all the ribbon cables are supposed to be when you put it back together you you've done this many times does it ever
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go wrong like how I'm gonna take you to get it taking apart phones I would say most phones that I take
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apart I have one or two screws left over afterwards so I would not say I'm like the most professional at putting them
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back together again although um when does this podcast go up uh let's
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call it a week and a half week and a half Okay cool so by the time this podcast goes up I will have already
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um done the fold four teardown oh the flip four tear down and I actually took that completely apart screen off and
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everything and put it back together so I'm very impressed with the build
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quality of that I am also I mean that seems like probably one of the harder ones to take apart and put back together
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I haven't actually taken apart well okay this is the question I was gonna ask you this is something that's been on my mind
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for a while when you when I get a review unit of a phone there's a very specific
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set of things that you're allowed to do with it and not allowed to do with it and at the top of the list every time is like you can't take it apart you can't
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durability test it you can't break it you can't do any of the stuff that Zach does to the phone so don't even think
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about it so I see all that I'm like all right Zach so you you spend the extra time you probably buy it from the
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manufacturer you do what you got to do but is there a difference in the way you
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work with some manufacturers are there some that are cool with sending you something knowing that you're going to
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take it apart yeah I mean I've always been super super upfront like there's been several times where a company has
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reached out to me and been like hey um you know can we send you a review unit and I'm like do you know who I am
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and what I do to phones and then they're like oh yeah never mind we're all out of review units
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dang and so that's happened several times wow um but I mean there has been companies that have been okay with it
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like you know nothing sent me their phone knowing what I was gonna do to it OnePlus sent me their phone knowing what I was going to do to it
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um and you know that super and like I've been straight up front like you know there's no special favors or anything
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like that um even though I get the phone and you know that has kind of come back to buy it one plus a little bit but no
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those are I was gonna say those are literally the two companies I would have thought of of who would be cool with
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getting you a device knowing what might happen but being fine with it
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um okay have you been have you been surprised by any durability test results I mean you squeeze an iPad it breaks in
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half that's kind of nuts I'm imagining your your face off camera is a little
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bit wide-eyed when that happens but have you been impressed by something passing or super shocked by a by a failure
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um I would say the one that comes to mind first of all is just the folding phones like I seriously thought that they would be able to be snapped in half
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you know every single time I grab one I'm like yeah this can definitely break but then it doesn't yeah and so that's
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just nuts to me yeah bending it backwards seems like it should just snap right in half but they do survive right
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with impressive with impressive consistency that's pretty sick you've seen the uh the Apple watch Ultra I have
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do you expect that to fare any differently or do you do you even want
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to test a watch like that I do I mean I've done watches in the past I do want to check their Sapphire and I think it'd
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be fun to test it up against Google's new or was it Samsung that just came out with the sapphire watch one of them just
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came out with one and so in the past Apple has been using kind of like a subpar in pure Sapphire and I want to
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see if they've continued that and to see if um Samsung has the same supplier of
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sapphire as Apple does yeah has there ever been uh deeper
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grooves at a different level than we typically see I I've watched probably 50
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or 60 videos and it's always scratches at a level six deeper grooves at a level seven is that every time
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um except for HTC had a sapphire phone that came out a while back um duraforce
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um Kyocera duraforce Ultra is a sapphire phone as well so there are a couple Sapphire phones out there
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and then Apple has a sapphire watch with the same Sapphire as their camera lenses so and those get all the way to nine no
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it's Apple Sapphire is a level six still even though um they say it's Sapphire but if you
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look at like a tiso watch which is actual Sapphire those are level eight with deep Burgers alumni okay or seven
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and eight I can't remember yeah that's interesting I want because there's like a obviously it's built to like sustain
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drops and all sorts of other weird things you might hit it up against a rock or something but it's just it's it
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was always fascinating watching a test that you get to do um okay what is this is from one you do
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one YouTuber to another what is your workflow like you get a new idea or a device for a video walk me through like
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the steps that you go through to make a j rig Everything video
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oh man I mean I've been doing this for so long and you've been doing this for so long like your your flow has probably
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changed quite a bit over the years yeah um back when I was in college
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um when I think it was around like when I was hitting like one or two million subscribers
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um my bed was in one corner of the room my computer setup was in the other
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corner of the room and my phone tear down set up was next to my computer it's like I could literally wake up in the
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morning do a tear down edit all day and go back to sleep all in the same room yep um and that workflow was was pretty
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tight um then obviously I kind of you know expanded got my own Warehouse
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um and then I kind of branched out to other projects as well I would say currently I try to do like two videos a
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week um and my team I have a bunch of people with the not a
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wheelchair side of things which maybe we can get to later um but my core like Jerry rig team is just me and one of my
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buddies from high school who's my editor and he's been living he's been doing the job for the last
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six or seven years wow and he just he lives in Texas and does everything remote but he's been uh Super Time Saver
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for me yeah yeah I was gonna say my my college setup reminds me a lot of what you just described it was like a bed on
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one wall and a desk on the other wall and then a computer under the desk and you just roll out of bed and just shoot
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and then roll back into bed that was the whole thing um no I didn't know you you had a team
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for the channel or at least a a second person helping you edit so you send them footage I imagine and they they just
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send you back the finished thing yeah and he handles all the Facebook stuff um personally I I really like um Twitter
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and Instagram um those are the two that I you know kind of contribute myself to um but my
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editor handles Facebook because I that platform is not my favorite and so I've
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realized that the Facebook audience is completely different than the YouTube audience
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um and I can post the same video on both platforms and no one ever cares yeah so
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we have a lot in common I I also don't spend too much time on Facebook but have also been convinced of the the lack of
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overlap and so figured might as well have that post in some way which is
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interesting uh yeah so I do talk a lot about
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EVS on the waveform podcast like just just car stuff in general I don't know I
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gotten into it a lot in the past few years and I've noticed you also getting into EVs and a lot of the cooler
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projects or one project in particular seems to be going pretty well first I'll
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ask you about the rivian because uh we both have this electric truck how how do
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you like it so far you've you've gone quite a few more miles than I have but anything break yet
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um I think I'm right at 5 000 miles um and I've had it for like six months or seven months give or take um the only
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thing that's still broken is the tonneau cover um and rivien reached out and said you know hey we'll totally fix that under
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warranty I just haven't had time to go in and get that fixed yet um and then I have two Rock Clips in my windshield that are cracked all the way
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across um yeah um one thing with the truck though and
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I've been trying to put this into words um like when I had my Tacoma I felt like
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attached to it like I put the lift on I put the winch on and like when I would
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park it in a parking lot and walk away and turn back and be like yeah that's my truck and I got felt like attached to it
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yeah with the rivian I was like super super looking forward to getting it but
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now that I have it it's been like six months that attachment isn't the same as it used to be and I'm
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trying to figure out why and I think it might be because of the way that it looks
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because like it has more power and more ability than almost any other
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truck on the road but it looks like docile like it's almost like it's almost
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like a serial killer you know like you see a serial killer and they're like yeah there you would never know there's
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a serial killer but underneath they're just like this this evil thing and like the rivian you would never expect it to
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be the most like bad a hardcore truck on the road but it is and I think it's just
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the looks are throwing the off after having owned it for six months okay I have a suggestion that I kind of think
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might work and this is kind of the way I felt about Tesla at the beginning you just you just described like working
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with your truck before you do some customization to it you kind of you get your hands dirty a little bit maybe do
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something to make it feel different from all the other rivians so you could you
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know get that that rap going get a ppf get maybe some just it could even be
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small things just the door handles or like the the lights or something just to make it a little bit your own because
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that's when I first started looking back at it in the in the parking lot like oh yeah that's nice I did that you know
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yeah your rap is sick I like your rap oh thank you would you would you trade the
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rivian for I was gonna ask like did you consider any other EVS but I imagine the the rivene was pretty high on the list
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it wasn't really there wasn't really any competition when it came out as far as trucks you could buy but if like a Tacoma EV or another
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nice one came out today would you would you consider Cross Shopping any other stuff for sure
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um I would say like it would have to be semi-comparable and I do like the smaller trucks you know like the Cyber truck is massive and the Ford F-150 is
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still pretty big um so the only other one I would like legitimately consider is probably like a
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Tacoma or like another mid-sized truck that came out with an EV yeah I mean
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yeah I'm not emotionally there's no attachment to rivian that's going to be like this is my truck for life fair fair
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yeah I mean I when I decided to place the order of the Ravine it was right after we'd use an F-150 Lightning for a
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video shoot and it was like dang I I really this worked extremely well let's just get a smaller version of that and
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so that's basically what it is it's like the only option I could buy that actually fit those requirements
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um but you also I hear did I hear you right in one of your videos you were like you have a
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camera rig on top of a car and you just leave it there permanently so yeah you have a MKBHD production car with a crane on the
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top permanently yeah okay here's the thing so we did we we did that build and
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that was that was a motor crane build and that's a super awesome rig yes built
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on top of a car uh the problem with that rig not that it's a big problem but it's like you
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can't just go out into the streets and just start shooting with it wherever like you can't drive through a
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neighborhood or drive down the highway without not only people staring at it but like probably getting pulled over
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and asked for your permit and things like that uh so we really have reserved that for
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like track use closed roads things like that and we can get the craziest shots we want when we do those occasional
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videos but we had the F-150 Lightning for a week and Ford actually gave us two
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and I was like I don't you know they gave us two different trims I didn't really have much to do with two at the same time but the idea we had was to
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shoot some some rolling shots with this rig on the tow hitch of the F-150 with the other F-150 because it was the only
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Vehicles we have here with the tow hitch so that is what we did and we rolled
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around for I think we shot basically two full days and nobody even blinked nobody even batted an eye it was just like
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another truck driving by and it's quiet too it's even less high profile than a normal truck and yeah so that was kind
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of a no-brainer where it was like yeah if we if we actually want shots on real roads in neighborhoods around town like
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wherever a normal vehicle drives um you need to be as low profile as possible and a silent pickup truck with
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a tiny little camera rig on the back that nobody even blinks at is that so that was a kind of uh a
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breakthrough for a little workflow there does it have like a controllable like
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camera tilt and pen and all that stuff on the hitch yeah yeah so it's a remote controlled Ronin basically if you flip a
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ronin and put it on a shock mount you do have the ability to use the motors in the Ronin to spin it around and point it
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at stuff so it's fully articulating remotely so someone's in the back of the truck controlling everything
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and that's backseater back bed of the truck uh whatever they prefer I think they prefer the back seat with a seat
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belt but it's also it's nice to be able to Look Backwards so that you're not like reversing all the axes in your head
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so sometimes they like spin around in the back seat but yeah it it's it's worked pretty well
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I was just gonna ask um since you were talking about um getting pulled over and permits and stuff like that with the other camera
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rig have you ever gotten in trouble flying a drone or filming on public roads with that setup
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not in trouble um the closest we got was we we went and
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did some scouting for a sort of a local park not National Park but a park that
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we wanted to shoot in that had some nice looking roads completely empty on a
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beautiful day in you know Spring Drive up one morning empty massive parking lot
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acres and acres of land and on the horizon you see a little Parks mobile or
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whatever I think I like ah whatever they're not gonna bother us and before we even finish setting up the camera to
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start getting our first shots they've driven all the way over to come investigate what's going on in their parking lot so you know it's it's clearly an it's an
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eye catcher it's one of those things where you drive it around and you see everyone look at it and you're like oh yeah clearly this would not work on a
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regular basis yeah that's like Hollywood level equipment on that thing so it is it's super capable it's also
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terrifyingly capable like if you mess up you know that's a big metal arm swinging around on the top of a car so you got to
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be really locked in with that for sure all right that's a perfect spot for a quick break but we'll be right back with
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so so you have the rivian but you've also been building an EV I've never been able to say that to anyone you've been
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building an electric Hummer uh
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why why a Hummer why an electric Hummer why build it yourself please explain
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um so several things um one is I've always thought the Hummers were just super super cool
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um but I would never actually I think they're super super cool but also like the other half of me is like you know
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EVS 24 7 and so like I wanted to combine like the worst gas mileage
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you know hardcore vehicle and like make it into what I'm
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all about these days which is like EB and like you know being nice to the environment and all that stuff
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um so yeah that's why I chose the Hummer and I thought it would just be like a super super fun project to teach myself
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about electricity but also to kind of like show people that you know electric
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vehicles aren't golf carts anymore like they are they are insanely powerful
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capable machines and kind of the only way to reach the
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demographic who thinks they're still golf carts is to take something that that demographic likes and turn it into
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an EV and I think you know that series of videos I think it did a pretty good job of like
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reaching that demographic or that group of people I agree uh it's an interesting
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strategy like the we'll talk about the actual Hummer EV in a second but like that
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well I'll actually I'll just go straight to the there is a real Hummer EV now like they made a new one and it's it's a
00:26:52
9 000 pound just terrifyingly fast rocket of a of a truck it's weird that
00:26:58
it exists but it is funny because now people who only cared about Hummers kinda are forced to be at least a little
00:27:06
bit interested in an electric vehicle which is fascinating yeah um but this is also like way more
00:27:13
complicated than taking apart a z-flip and putting it back together uh I
00:27:18
imagine there were some doubts along the way some roadblocks did you ever not
00:27:24
think you'd be able to finish it or would you were you just gonna do as much as possible no matter what
00:27:31
true well once so I was probably like six or seven videos in before I posted
00:27:37
anything you know like I would just film the video edit it save it not post it anywhere just I wanted to wait until I
00:27:44
knew that I could do it that way you don't have like a million people being like ah you failed you suck
00:27:50
you know because like that even though like creators say that comments don't bother them you know but like when you
00:27:55
have that many people you just I wanted to know that I could do it before I posted anything right so
00:28:02
right I waited so that was never a doubt and at the same time like it was not a cheap project and so I'm in
00:28:11
it not quite six figures but also not quite any less than six figures and so
00:28:17
it's like I also couldn't quit because of that part of it um no you can't throw that much money at
00:28:23
something and then just not finish it right so the sunken cost yeah and I'll
00:28:28
probably would have almost been cheaper it almost would have been cheaper just to buy
00:28:33
the real Hummer AV instead of making your own well the thing about the real Hummer EV
00:28:40
is they've made so few of them that they are like marked up to double MSRP or
00:28:47
something ridiculous because you just can't get one anywhere yeah yeah uh I talked to somebody who never heard of that yeah yeah well I talked to someone
00:28:53
who had a reservation for one it was like a hundred grand or something and they were like yeah I could I think they flipped it for two something it's like
00:29:01
insanely hard to get which is crazy but it's also like wow there's a real human
00:29:06
out there who loves the Hummer so much that they would pay a quarter of a
00:29:11
million dollars for the electric one who are these people like what do you what
00:29:17
is the normal person watching the Hummer EV series you think um like what kind of person is the normal person watching it yeah is there
00:29:23
is there a it's probably a very different demographic than the phone teardowns probably
00:29:29
I had so when we bought my new Warehouse um in Orem for the not a wheelchair
00:29:34
project um we needed a forklift um to get a giant box out of a semi and
00:29:41
my forklift wasn't big enough for it and so we went to the automotive store right next to us and as soon as I walked up
00:29:48
the guy was like whoa you're Jerry rigged everything and he was like probably 55 60 years old not one of the
00:29:55
tech people you know not a tech you demographic type person right um but he had been watching my armor videos and
00:30:02
because he knew who I was he came over with his forklift and helped us unload the semi
00:30:08
um yeah definitely a different group of people watching that series that's awesome what is the what is the
00:30:14
typical interaction between you and your viewers in real life look like because I
00:30:21
know I know what mine is 95 of them are they pull a phone out of their pocket and hold it up and they're like I got
00:30:27
this because of your video and I'm like whoa okay I hope you like it
00:30:33
um well that's definitely not I assume it's not the same for yours are they are
00:30:38
they disassembling things fixing things no I mean most honestly like when we go
00:30:43
to take a selfie I would say probably like almost I would say maybe like eight out of ten
00:30:49
times I go outside like someone recognize me if I'm especially if I'm Not Like Home Depot or something I got
00:30:54
recognized three times at Home Depot um the last summer went like two weeks ago which I love like don't get me wrong
00:31:00
like if anyone ever meets me in real life come say hi like I love that um but usually when someone pulls out
00:31:05
their phone for a selfie it's an iPhone so you know that they're not going off of my recommendations for phones
00:31:10
interesting I think that it's like watching I don't know maybe the entertainment value or something like they watch it
00:31:17
because they're interested in the tech not necessarily because of what I tell them to get right there is definitely a
00:31:23
good amount of that I can see that in the comments sometimes people are like I I wasn't really gonna buy any of what
00:31:29
you were talking about but I just kind of like watching the videos which is cool too I like that
00:31:35
um but you know I feel like a part of watching your videos is like almost this advocacy for right to repair and then
00:31:42
it's kind of interesting seeing you know the part that activates on that and then the other part which is just sort of
00:31:47
passively watching like oh yeah it kind of would be cool if I could repair this iPhone and then just gets another iPhone
00:31:53
the next year damn that's fun I really like making the videos
00:31:58
um lately my I mean don't get me wrong I'm like nine I think I have like 950
00:32:03
videos or something that I've made um and I still enjoy the whole process but I'm really really enjoying
00:32:10
um having a whole kind of like Warehouse dedicated to accessibility and like making
00:32:15
off-road Wheelchairs and stuff and like I see that becoming a much bigger part of my channel going forward not stopping
00:32:22
where I've been of course but it's just adding on to and developing new products of my own
00:32:28
that is really really fun yeah I think a question a lot of creators probably get is like oh you
00:32:34
have a YouTube channel but what are you gonna do like with this and maybe there's a product maybe there's an idea
00:32:40
you have and so yours has been not a wheelchair project which I think is super unique and and obviously very
00:32:47
successful and on brand um what does that operation look like for you you mentioned you had a team for
00:32:52
it you have a warehouse for it what what is happening with that project so we I've been doing it for about two
00:33:00
years now we launched our first off-road wheelchair kind of made out of bike parts and it's got four tires and just
00:33:06
it's like half the price of other off-road wheelchairs out there um and that's kind of just been our goal
00:33:12
is to take something that already exists cut the price in half make our own version and then sell it
00:33:19
um and so now we have a warehouse in Orem Utah and probably
00:33:27
four full-time guys and then a couple part-time guys who are there running that facility and kind of like you know
00:33:33
designing and working on our new projects we have three different projects going at the same time right now
00:33:40
um and it's just super super fun like YouTube's great but like being able to incorporate a production in like
00:33:46
manufacturing into it and obviously I'm gonna film the whole thing because that's what brings in the revenue to
00:33:52
make the accessible equipment right super fun yeah it's interesting I don't
00:33:58
know enough about the specifically off-road wheelchair Market but I'm curious so you you've made essentially a
00:34:04
design that you have people helping you put together over and over and then ship and then warehouse and things like that
00:34:13
yeah kind of our first our first um off-road wheelchair is manufactured by a company named Utah strikes and they
00:34:20
probably have like 40 or 50 employees and they are the ones assembling that um specific product but the ones we're
00:34:26
making in the future that's where my team will start assembling those um right now we're just getting the all
00:34:32
the equipment set up and the manufacturing kind of nailed down um which is I mean I've enjoyed every
00:34:39
single day of it so far so yeah that's fascinating I I'm like putting my Shark Tank hat on now like okay is there are
00:34:47
you there are other wheelchair there are other off-road wheelchair competitors I imagine and you're you're undercutting
00:34:52
them all in price but you have a design obviously that you've worked with is that fair to say
00:34:57
yeah I mean if you think about like a powered wheelchair even like you've seen you've seen those
00:35:03
big track chairs right like you've seen videos of those on YouTube where there's a seat and there are two giant tank tracks on the side right like those
00:35:10
things start at like 15 000 oh geez so which is way outside of the realm of
00:35:17
most people in wheelchairs like 15 grand like if you're looking at a car you're looking at like a truck for that price
00:35:23
and so most people just you know they don't buy an off-road wheelchair because the price is just too extreme for them
00:35:29
and so our machine with this four tires and off-road capabilities is only five thousand dollars which is still
00:35:36
expensive but way more reasonable than anything else that's out there right so that's there's when your Shark Tank hat
00:35:43
is on there's not a lot of profit in there because my goal I don't want to take money from people in wheelchairs I
00:35:50
have other ways of making money and they're not a wheelchair business it's just about accessibility and
00:35:56
getting people out and exploring and stuff that makes a lot of sense I do remember a shark tank pitch which was
00:36:02
pretty memorable which was uh this is so off topic that it was like a farmer who
00:36:07
had a really good product and he was like I think one of the Sharks was like why don't you charge ten times the price for this and he was like well I'm
00:36:13
selling to Farmers so that's not really going to work I'm just kind of doing this because it's the best product and they want to use it and I feel like it's
00:36:20
kind of similar like do you you obviously can speak to the market and you've used it and you know what's good for people who use off-road wheelchairs
00:36:27
so that's a bunch of advantages that a lot of people probably don't have so you can make something really great for them
00:36:32
yeah yeah and I'm all for you know capitalism and making money and stuff like that but I have plenty of other
00:36:38
avenues of doing that the wheelchair Market doesn't need to be one of those Avenues right um I am curious so how
00:36:45
many am I how many people are on the MKBHD team how many people do you have
00:36:50
because you just got a new Warehouse as well right like any facility uh about two years ago we moved into this new
00:36:56
space yeah so yeah it is entirely around it's entirely built around the the
00:37:03
channels and the videos and the production so as of right now it's 12. it is 12 total people for all it's
00:37:11
multiple channels now though like if you'd asked me a few years ago what are what are you gonna have 12 people doing
00:37:16
that wouldn't make any sense to me but we have the main Channel we have this podcast that we're doing we have the
00:37:22
autofocus Channel we have all this this stuff going on and all products behind the scenes as well uh so it is currently 12 which sounds
00:37:30
crazy to say out loud one thing I love about the autofocus channel is if I remember correctly you're using the
00:37:36
phones you're reviewing to film that right yes that's that's what we've been doing and I've been it's been really
00:37:41
positive feedback so far the hardest part is actually audio I don't know how much you shoot with your phone for your
00:37:48
videos I see I feel like I've seen some iPhone shots in your videos but uh the
00:37:53
windows or Android stuff oh that's actually Fair what I'll ask them what phones have you used to sneeze shots
00:38:00
into videos um well the reason I bring it up at all is because like I love that you're using
00:38:05
just a phone because like people always say oh I need a bunch of equipment start a YouTube channel they're like no just use your phone they're so good yeah um
00:38:13
but the phone that I currently use obviously and I'm on this uh podcast with right now is just the Note 10 plus
00:38:19
and so I've been using that for like three years yeah yeah the the hardest
00:38:25
part has been audio and the wind when you shoot car stuff you're always outside and the wind coming across that
00:38:32
mic really messes with audio and dialogue so I'm messing with some some
00:38:37
solutions some external mics you can plug in things like that that may work really well but yeah fully agreed like
00:38:43
I've been telling people for years who ask I get people in like Middle School asking like I want to make a computer
00:38:51
and a video set up so I can start my YouTube channel I'm like no no no no no that's not how you start a YouTube
00:38:59
channel just because you see people doing it now uh yeah shoot with your phone there's there's endless stuff you can shoot with
00:39:05
just the camera in your pockets really good all right we're gonna take one more quick break but we'll be right back with Zach from Jerry rig everything
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00:40:59
this jailbreak everything operation you have the videos that you're making on YouTube you have the not you oh you have
00:41:05
the wheelchair and then you kind of have them like feeding into each other is there more growth plan for one or the
00:41:12
other or both um I used to be really scared of hiring
00:41:18
people like I was always like you know I'm gonna do everything myself like you know it's Jerry rig everything life is a
00:41:23
do-it-yourself project like I need to handle every aspect of the whole business all by myself but then I
00:41:29
realized that like I can accomplish so much more when I have a team and so I made that uh realization probably like
00:41:35
three years ago so I've been expanding slowly expanding my team so that they can like help take aspects of Jay read
00:41:43
everything giving me more time to like make content and stuff [Music] um and so I think that is going to be one
00:41:50
of the things is expanding the team I think I'm still going to be [Music] um
00:41:55
the main like obviously the script and the hands and the voice all that still
00:42:01
has to be generic everything yeah but I can delegate other portions of the the
00:42:07
video making to people I want to do another Ed project after I finish the Hummer I think the Hummer has like
00:42:12
another four or five videos in it before it's like done right
00:42:17
um and then I have some other big projects for Jerry with everything and then yeah split my time 50 50 with the
00:42:23
not a wheelchair project and Jerry red everything you mentioned hiring how do you decide
00:42:29
what to hire and how to hire and what to hire for because you know you you know you just said it yourself you know your
00:42:35
voice your hands this script that's you but there's other parts of the video making process maybe there's behind the
00:42:42
scenes maybe there's strategy maybe there's the books what what do you decide to hire next
00:42:49
um I think it's people just making sure people have the right skill set um when I started researching for the
00:42:55
Hummer project I realized that if I wanted to learn everything there is to know about
00:43:01
constructing an indie like I would be spending full time just researching on the internet
00:43:06
but if I found someone who could be there physically helping out with the
00:43:11
project to answer questions immediately it would cut the research time down
00:43:16
exponentially and so there I had two guys helping me with the EV project
00:43:22
instead of just finding people with the right skill set um that are reliable that's my hiring
00:43:27
process that's fair and it's it's usually pretty simple on the surface and then you have to like really dig into
00:43:33
the details of like all right how do we find this person how do we make sure this person actually has the skill sets
00:43:39
they need how do we train them integrate them into the team all that sort of stuff but I feel like if you have the
00:43:47
the skeleton of what you require then it's pretty easy to fill in and make it work
00:43:53
uh but yeah it's like you gotta I wonder if you have any other like itching side
00:43:58
project passions that you haven't been able to tackle yet because yeah you do have a pretty a wide variety of
00:44:03
interests you've got a lot going on but is there anything you haven't haven't done that you wish you were doing the
00:44:10
one thing that caught me by surprise is when I went and toured that glass recycling facility
00:44:16
um like that video got 10 million views and so I didn't think that like touring
00:44:22
a recycling facility would be that entertaining I guess for people
00:44:28
um but that's something I want to hit way harder but having said that I've reached out to probably
00:44:35
five or six different similar recycling places and it is a lot of them don't
00:44:42
want to show off what they're doing which is very interesting um
00:44:47
even knowing like a lot of the times like I'll reach out and say hey this YouTube channel we get x amount of views
00:44:52
for video and people are like oh yeah let's do it um but for some reason [Music] it's been hard to find people who want
00:44:59
to show off their recycling facilities I think that's something I definitely want to Branch into
00:45:05
yeah that's kind of a is that a red flag that they don't want to show what they're doing even though they're supposed to be doing I don't know one
00:45:12
specific thing huh that's fascinating like in here in Utah we have someone who says they specifically recycle styrofoam
00:45:20
which I think would be fascinating no response no phone calls emails
00:45:27
nothing yeah super weird you know I have this series that I've done sort of occasionally where I tore
00:45:34
other YouTubers workspaces they're sort of Studios if
00:45:39
you want to call it that if I were to do one in the J rig everything studio right now what would
00:45:46
that look like I've seen some like wide shots you've you got the overhead camera and the lights and everything in the monitor setup but what does the setup
00:45:52
look like so imagine my house is on this property and we have
00:45:59
like a mother-in-law building behind and so that building's like my bed isn't in
00:46:05
this room right now but my computers are um the buildings I work from home but in
00:46:10
that separate building so I have one room for my computers and editing um one room where all my very rig knives
00:46:16
are since we fulfill those out of this um building
00:46:22
um also like my Hummer shirts my Jerry's everything shirts and then I have a side room where I do like the top down video
00:46:29
stuff and then on my garage is next to that with the hovering wow so that's my studio it's pretty
00:46:35
compact I mean I I obviously have a separate space but you're uh you know you stroll across the yard you get you
00:46:42
get the work done and then you walk back across and you're back for dinner easy yeah that's nice super great very short
00:46:49
for me yeah man I I also have one more question
00:46:55
which might be I don't know how the logistics of how we'll pull this off but I'm gonna ask you anyway which is how
00:47:02
fast can you type the alphabet whoa yeah
00:47:09
yeah it's a it's kind of off the cuff but the the fun way of finding out is I have
00:47:15
a link for you of a alphabet typing test
00:47:21
and this is actually something okay something we ask everyone who comes on the podcast to do now you're on your
00:47:26
phone I'll say if you're next to a computer this is definitely going to be easier on a computer because you have your keyboard uh we would
00:47:34
yeah so if you wanted if you want to do this like right now oh yeah right now we're live baby we're gonna do uh what
00:47:42
are we doing a three round a three round test because this is a
00:47:47
this is something where you probably need more than one chance to get your best score all I ask of you is a screen recording and you give your your best
00:47:57
three shots all right so type here Pro tip press enter to restart
00:48:03
so just so when you see EFG all the way there yep you get all the way to Z and then don't hit enter at the end it'll
00:48:10
just show you your score as soon as you hit Z whatever your time was okay let's see all test nine okay
00:48:28
um 8.9 okay 8.9 it's not sure faster what do I know who the leader is right now well so
00:48:35
typically the first chance is the fastest um should I tell you I'll let you I'll let
00:48:42
you get two more shots in so the typically the first shot the first shot's never the fastest one so I bet
00:48:47
you go under 8.9 all right so if I reset
00:49:00
6.6 oh see that's way way faster you just moved way up the leaderboard
00:49:06
okay yeah one more time yeah
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oh no screw that 9.8 okay all right so six
00:49:25
point was it exactly 6.6 even uh 6.6 something I'd have to look at the recording again okay we've got a couple
00:49:32
6.6 is on our leaderboard I'll tell you you're probably right around Mark Rober
00:49:37
and Colin and Samir both got 6.6s good company good company that's pretty good
00:49:43
Zach this has been fun hopefully uh hopefully this is fun for you too I imagine we'll have many more chances to
00:49:49
speak and probably will end up at an event or two at some point it'll happen but uh thanks for taking the time a real
00:49:57
life we have to have a real life collaboration I reached out to you right before the pandemic um and we were gonna do the collab I
00:50:04
reached out to you about but then we got slammed with the worldwide virus so yeah we'll have to get back together and do
00:50:10
that one again 100 I'm down sick all right thanks again for chatting
00:50:15
man appreciate it well like I said that was a fun one shout out again to Zach for the time and for answering all of my
00:50:21
incredibly interested questions and all the stuff that he does uh yeah it was
00:50:26
really good that I I love that he has like all these different places like his little space for shipping and also
00:50:33
filming and then he has like his garage in his warehouse for the Humvee stuff and then he also has all the wheelchair things I I we haven't done a studio tour
00:50:40
video in a long time I would love to go out and see all his different places I do yeah I I want to bring it back it was
00:50:46
really fun also like selfishly it helps me like see things that I can adapt for
00:50:52
our own studio and I feel like anytime no matter what type of videos somebody makes anytime you visit someone's face
00:50:58
you go oh I should do that so yeah I'm super down maybe Zach's time to do that too we can do a video there either way
00:51:04
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