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Adam you didn't even say the best part of this gift card what is it on Wednesday some people who posted about the gift card said they went to redeem
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the offer and got an error message saying the voucher has been [Laughter]
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cancelled GI CR did not immediately respond to a request for comment the
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gift that never gave the gift that only takes
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away what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm
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arquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and this week uh we've got a whole bunch I mean
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you probably are aware of the whole crowd strike uh blue screen to death uh Global
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it apocalypse y 2K situation that happened we're going to talk about that a little bit but then some other stuff
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we've got Tesla Roadster maybe finishing production uh we've got Apple folding phone rumors and a gaming keyboard
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that's basically cheating is what the doc says I don't know what that is I'll try to explain that later yeah yeah uh
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so yeah we can just jump right in but first welcome to the ferse Marquez why
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am I saying that I'm the last person should say oh yeah are you on the ferse no see which you are I am Andrew's next
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it only took significant bullying yeah you were bullied by basically everyone else in this room for a while yeah I I
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hit the button I mean all that really means is I went in my threads account in the settings and then I checked the box
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that says like feder feriz fate Federate my account and it's so now it shows up
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on every server and people from all sorts of servers Mastadon all 12 of them
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are interacting heavily hey look we got to start somewhere with my threads account important when I get a
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notification now from the threads app they are separated into threads notifications and then fediverse
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notifications so it'll say David said this reply Andrew said this reply and
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three ferse users liked your post yeah and I can't reply to anything from the fediverse from the threads app
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eventually but it's there it sounds like they got to clean up notifications on that which is probably Bas is based on
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which app you're using but they're also moving fairly slowly and just like building out ferse integration into
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threads but it's supposed to theoretically maybe possibly be done by the end of the year maybe possibly So
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speaking yeah no I was you know too easy sorry oh that's a pretty good one yeah
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which if you want to do it you can okay well speaking of things that maybe are possibly coming soon maybe possibly
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maybe and I've been rolling out extremely slowly extremely unlikely to be soon but could be cuz they're working
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on it I think maybe we don't know unclear allegedly yeah apparently Elon
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Musk mentioned on a Tesla earnings call recently that the Tesla Roadster will be
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going into production 2026 oh yeah
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they've completed most of the engineering on it m right the car in
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2017 I would they've completed most of the engineering on I'm pretty sure I could design a car in seven
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years you know yeah this I know nothing about there are whole companies that have designed a car stole a bunch of
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money and folded in the time that this hasn't come well they designed a start a car stole a bunch of money and haven't
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fold that that's a fact cuz they also shipped other cars yeah yeah I don't know this has clearly been what the
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messaging has been the whole time is this is uh the cherry on top it's the dessert it's not a priority we're
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prioritizing these things that are s way more important like rbo taxis yeah Tesla
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bot October theoretically yeah I mean model 3 and model y are the most obvious priorities
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for that company and they're ramping up cybertruck production as we speak so yeah all those things cut the line and
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Roadster has been on the back burner I would argue surface laptop review just
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just keeps getting cut in line you know by other things I think they nailed the messaging that the Tesla Roadster is
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last on their priority heard you loud and clear Tesla Jerry on top yeah it
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should be maybe a little more prioritized considering people gave them $250,000 there's low priority and
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there's no priority I think we're creeping towards no priority yeah yeah
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like they could announce another car tomorrow and it would take priority yeah I mean Elon also just says things all
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the time that's that's really the main thing that's really like this is an article because everything he says on
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those earnings calls gets a write up of an article so this is one of the things he said and now it's an article and it's a headline and it's hey could it come
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out in 2026 I I saw this headline and I I literally sighed and kept scrolling
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like I I'll believe it when I see it your car will make money for you by 2017 Marquez allegedly it'll drive itself
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across the country too huh by 2017 marz I feel like at best at best what these
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articles do is just remind you how much people have put down as a deposit already to be like oh feel really bad
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I'm missing that money right now yeah because if you had put it in stock you would be wealthy oh yeah or if you just
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had it you would have $50,000 doing there's also a better car that's come out in the meantime so yeah that's what
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I put down here I I was wondering if would consider it better or well we don't know anything about
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theual roadst I tried to throw specs down of what the Roadster supposed to have and then compared it to the Lucid a
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sapphire which has come out which you've said is a wild car right it's incredible car yeah if you want to go just buy the
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actual specs that Tesla has published and just give them the benefit of the doubt and say that that's what the specs
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will actually be then uh they're very competitive and you should just get the air Sapphire today because it's it's
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just the same car without this Tesla Supercharger Network right are they also moving to NS later yeah aren't they
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moving to NS uh so I don't know the specifics of if you can when you'll be able to buy a sapphire with the nacs
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port on it versus adapters I don't know that yet it'll probably happen before the Roadster comes out I hope so I think
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what we do know is the gravity is supposed to have actually no I did I I can't remember I did a video on the
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gravity but I think that also had a the seemed like any cars coming out in
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2025 are supposed to have n ACS right that seems like when we're starting to get the physical ports inside of cars
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yeah and then this year is the adap adapters or is it next year's the adap we're getting adapters now like the
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rivan have adapters right now yeah but either way so 0 to 60 under two seconds
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they're both Crazy Fast the top speed being over 200 milph for both of them
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it's supposed to be over 250 for the road C okay um the price also 250k for the
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founders series Roadster 250k for the Lucid air Sapphire I didn't realize that was the the weird thing that we don't
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know if they're going to keep because they keep saying they're making the car better but they also said at launch 200
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KW hour battery and 620 mile range uh that's insane that's just a lot
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of weight if you tried to do that with today's Battery tech that would be extremely heavy so I kind of doubt that
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they're going to nail those specs but hey benefit of the doubt let's say they do they finished the engineering it's
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done oh my my bad the thing that also keeps being said by people like frons and other people at Tesla is that this
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car will be better in every way than what they originally announced so we keep going I hope so yeah well no the
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specs that they announced are World beater like crazy anymore the speed is
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yeah 0 to 60 1.9 seconds a 9C qu Mile and 620 Mi of range is like
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okay if those are the specs that would be the best electric car you can buy today but they say it's going to be
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better in every way from what they originally announced I mean how maybe maybe they basically Elon just
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said you need to make all the specs at least this good and the engineering team was like the technology is literally not
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there yet so we have to wait until the tech is there that's why it took seven years but now yeah now they're saying
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it's better and the Tech is ready and the engineering is I mean maybe almost done we'll see I feel like one thing
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that Tesla would have over Lucid but I would also argue isn't that relevant
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here is full self-driving is I'm sure their automated driving is better than Lucid but like if you buying one one of
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these cars to just be like an absolute monster feel like you enjoy driving and don't care about that quite as full stop
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driving is terrifying still and I wouldn't put my $250,000 car in the potential for an
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insane now what would it be 265,000 with full self-driving does this I'm assuming
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this does not include full self dve no it does founder series includes everything man they're just really
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throwing your phone here they're so thoughtful value holy crap okay yeah I
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don't know I just want if you wind up getting this car ever can you make the license plate 2017 LOL that's a solid
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one that would be pretty good that would be it's the exact amount of letters I think yeah it is seven do we think this
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comes out in 2026 2026 yeah what was same thing with cyber truck
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50 50 production line vehicles I think so yeah I think it's possible I'm going
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no you think it's going to be 10 years man just hit that double digits
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baby it looks way cooler no I don't know late I'll just say no just because
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history can I can I tell you about another car that is going through a similar thing sure this is very Niche
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just like the rooster The Keg jera you heard of this I've heard of keg so kics
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makes like a bunch of extremely expensive but also really really high performance cars and years
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ago they announced a two row like super family sedan type thing and they had
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this crazy spec of like a crazy Z to 60 super fast but the other thing they did was they announced two different uh
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power trains for it they said there's going to be a hybrid I don't remember the exact details but it was like a tiny
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three cylinder with electrical assist so it would be super efficient and get
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great gas mileage but also be super powerful this like crazy wonder motor they were going to build okay and then
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also they would offer like an 8 cylinder with a huge engine that has even more performance mhm and
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apparently nobody bought the three cylinder one almost nobody a few people
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did and they just decided to cancel that one and shift everyone to the 8 cylinder one which they're also still not making
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yet but at least they can just focus on one skew how much is the down like how much you have to pay for it how much does it cost oh I've know it's probably
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a trillion and a half dollars how do these how do this many people have this much money J well they're they don't oh
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not what what would like a hundred of these be made that's a lot of people this feels like not that far off I'm I'm
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asking this as a question I'm not saying it similar to the Rivera like in terms of low number numbers of production low
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volume yeah yes super low volume super low volume but just another one of those things I just I don't know how many I
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want to know how many people actually have a roadster pre-order still to this day yeah if you you can get a refund on
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your deposit right uh I don't I think so uh have you never checked I thought the
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roster was non-refundable yeah it's the deposit yeah it's it's an order fee it's
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not a deposit it's an order fee yeah I believe that's oh it was like wire transfer thises is sounding like the
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Escobar are you still getting another one because of the um well that was the thing it was like there's a free one
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from the referral program yeah are you still getting that one I don't know no one knows that's another completely
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open-ended question that nobody knows my gosh about that yeah no apparently it's it's refundable I'm looking it up right
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now it's refundable as long as a purchase agreement hasn't been entered yet which there is also no purchase agreement yet so so they that money just
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been sitting with Tesla loans bro yeah they
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they put that in an index fund and just made a lot of money yeah well well we should talk about the whole Y2K thing
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the elephant in the room crowd strike there's an elephant in here that's the noise the noise an
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elephant makes um yeah so I think Casey Newton had a very funny tweet about this
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when the the whole thing first started happening well wasn't a tweet it was a threads post and he said I think he said
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like uh sad day for me is I unfortunately need to learn what crowd strike um and that kind of describes our
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last week yeah I feel like so a lot of people asked us this obviously happened on a Friday after the Pod was released
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already and everyone was like can you please talk about Crow strike but we released the Pod already um so it it was
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an insanely worldwide outage um of Microsoft computers because of this
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program or company called crowdstrike and a program they have called Falcon um and
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I knew almost nothing about it so a lot of the explanation here is going to be research that we've done and videos that
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we've watched and I will include some great sources that really know what they're talking about but this is extremely confusing I haven't researched
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this at all okay but I remember what I saw happen yeah yeah yeah let's let's describe what happened first we I we
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woke up and you log in and you just see that like tons and tons of businesses
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and major compute things are just not working like you know how you walk into
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Chipotle and they're like our systems are down today sorry you're like oh that's too bad it was that for everyone
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at once everywhere everywhere all at once everything it turned out to be not
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just like businesses but major Transit centers airports 911 call centers like
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everything that relies a shocking amount of things rely on this specific setup
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and these programs that all had this outage at the same time yes so it it was
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kind of just like a rolling cascading set of stories of oh by the way these seven states you can't call 911 right
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now cuz that's broken oh by the way these 12 airports like every flight in the US is grounded at the same time
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because they all rely on this Delta had over 5,000 canceled flights because of this damn which is crazy it was 8.5
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million computers affected worldwide um people were calling this essentially what y 2K was supposed to
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hope everyone remembers Y2K if not that's all you can look that up
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yourself but uh so this outage you're talking about was physically these computers were in the
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blue the windows blue screen of death like if you walked into an airport which Andrew is wearing the same color so I
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think should temporar superimpose the bsod on his shirt um but like if you were to walk
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into an airport mhm most of the screens were just the Windows blue screen that
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annoying smiley face that's like system recovery um and just not working um we
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actually Tim's flight got canceled because of it somehow my mom flew in the night before and missed all of this so
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very lucky but lot tons of flights completely canceled we all know what happens when airports get backed up that
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was pure chaos for the weekend um but if we want to go a little deeper into oh
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wait actually the funniest outage though was there was a photo on the pit wall of a Formula 1 race on free practice on
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Friday of the Mercedes team with their computers down I don't think it was photoshopped it's so perfect that I have
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to be wary of it but one of micros or Mercedes biggest sponsors for their F1 team is crowd strike so there's a guy in
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a shirt that says Mercedes and crowd strike on the back and like a bunch of screens that are just blue screen
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because of crowd strike so that was very funny it looked like a meme template but I apparently that actually happened I
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saw multiple angles so it makes me think it was real but I'm not 100% um okay
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should we attempt to explain it we should preface this with there's this uh
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YouTube channel called Dave's Garage um from this retired software engineer uh for Microsoft who does a very good job
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at explaining a lot of these things he has now made as of time of recording two videos about this because there was the
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original outage in which he was very quick to make a a video explaining everything when you watch the video
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unless you are a computer like a software engineer it's still very confusing just prefacing that my notes
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are based on watching the whole thing through once going through and pausing it to write notes and watching one more
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time and I probably understand 30% of what it is it's very confusing okay I
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mean we we can try I mean we're also summarizing like we don't have to break it down in detail we can link this this
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video for people who want to watch that but what's the tldr of like what
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happened and honestly my questions are like okay it was an accident so is it going to happen again or is that a tiny
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thing that hopefully never happens again yeah so should I do this or do you want to do this or it's up to you go for it
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and if I try and think of I'll interrupt yeah if I say something wrong okay I can't promise that so yeah neither can I
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I'm doing my best okay so crowd strike is a security software that runs on a lot of Microsoft Windows machines um it
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is software that is made to sort of intersect potential threats to the
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system quickly intercept sorry what did I say intercept oh intercept yes
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intercept uh a lot of Novel threats to the system very quickly because cyber
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security is a category that's just grown like extremely rapidly in the last like 10 years because all of these crazy
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threats are just getting insane so this sits on a lot of Windows computers um in
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order to basically patch all of these potential vulnerabilities it needs special access to the kernel on Windows
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um the kernel is something that has like OS level permissions and because that is
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such a safe space that okay Z's like uhhuh yeah I I got
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you yeah because that is something that is such an important part of the system uh most things do not have kernel access
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and if anything goes wrong at the kernel level it will just blue screen of death
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because there is the potential for like insane vulnerabilities if it's like oh my God we detected an error at the colel
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this could be an attack of some sort so as a precaution it just crashes the system and doesn't let you do anything I
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think Windows essentially the blue screen is it's like fail safe protection of like something really bad was about
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to happen or we're not sure if something really bad was about to happen we should blue screen this um and I also just want
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to throw in there Crouch stries the company Falcon is the program that this ran from um which was on all of these
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computers which was on apparently like more than 300 of the top um 500
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companies in the world's computers 500 yeah um so crowd strike
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had pushed an update to Falcon that had this bug in it and the bug was basically
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pointing to a piece of memory that W didn't have anything in it um and that
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caused all of the systems to blue screen the funny thing about this is that they had validation software that validates
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that the code that they are about to push doesn't have any problems but there was a bug in the validation software as
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well to see it it was like a multi-level problem so there was a bug in the validation s bug in the bug catcher
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crazy a bug in the bug catcher that didn't catch the bug and uh yeah there's
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a lot of memes about this that are quite funny that are just like don't push to production on a Friday um my favorites
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were like first day at the office just push some code go was so funny the weekend off one
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thing that's a little strange here and potentially why this problem made it all the way through is generally in order to
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create things at a kernel level Microsoft has something called whql certification where if you're creating
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something for K it's essentially it's something if you're creating something at the kernel
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level Microsoft will test it and certify and certify it to make sure that it has
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no issues so Falcon is whql certified but I believe the way they update it
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sometimes to get past that or to not have it go through the lengthy process of certification through Microsoft in in
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order they want to you know be ahead of threats coming in so sometimes they can't wait for that they essentially I
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believe had a driver pack that the already certified software was pulling
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from and in that situation that's how they can push it in without getting the certification it's just now it's pointing to a new set because the driver
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pack has been certified the the program's been ctif and they canate data that's inside the
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driver pack without the full certification it's push without the full certification because of they pushed
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something into an already certified program that it's now that program was already leading to Adam's scratching his
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chin does that sound wrong no I'm just curious what's the point of the certification then well because Microsoft wants to certify anything
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anything that can access the kernel and it's sort of like you only need to certify it once you want so that's
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that's the big question mark that don't know the answer to Is Like did is it okay for companies to do this like did
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they get the okay from Microsoft to do this because they are a company that needs to catch novel threats as fast as
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possible or were they doing this without Microsoft's I had understood based on
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the official crowd strike statement which I assumed is buried in legal e but they wanted everyone to know that
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channel was it 291 293 I forget whichever like actual ual
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channel in the system 32 folder it was is not a not actually a kernel driver
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and not actually operating at the kernel level which is why they were able to push the update but what it does do is
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it informs the Falcon software which is operating at a kernel LEL which is what we how how to do it so I think that is
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how they were able to get around Microsoft because they weren't they weren't modifying code that runs at a kernel level they were they were
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modifying code that is an instruction set for the Falcon sensor that runs at so that's what was updated with
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certification but the program that's certified ran that pointed to it and
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because of that now that Colonel program is seeing something incorrect exactly question though is like why should that
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be allowed because you're basically modifying the program without getting a sign off by Microsoft I understand this
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is like novel threat detection and you need to do this stuff quickly so the big question is does Microsoft allow this
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kind of stuff or were they just do they did that time I mean I guess that so it
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feels like it's it's kind of The Perfect Storm of like it's it was a Friday it got pushed really quick there was a bug
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in the bug catcher that didn't catch the bug that was pointing to this thing and so everything just went to crap really
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fast and to a large number of testing and production seems crazy but I don't
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know it's also what's so big about it is because Microsoft systems are so
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prominent across the world th things like this have happened with crowdstrike before on Linux software multiple times
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in different types of builds and different updates and it's crashed them but this just happened to be the big one
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yeah with 8.5 million computers worldwide that hit and what was really messed up about this entire thing or not
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messed up is like how hard it is to fix it because in order to the fix was
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booting the physical computer into safe mode deleting the specific file and then
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rebooting or there was something I saw about like rebooting a system 15 times
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[Music] somehow have you tried again out for 30
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seconds essentially imagine 8.5 million computers that essentially have to be rebooted in safe mode and that's tough
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there were a lot of it Engineers that were called in on the weekend shout out if you're
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listening you're the hero you really are the hero yeah guys it's okay because
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crowd strike gave everyone a $10 what no way over eat gift card no
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way you have to be kidding are you serious who's everyone Tech crunch article some
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of their Partners no way $10 there's no that's the biggest part of this story wait is
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that true Adam thanks it guy who just reset 10,000 computers enjoy what can
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$10 get you on Uber Eats is that even a whole McDonald's meal the charge that's the delivery that's like the tip in the
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delivery fee oh my gosh yeah that's I so what was funny is I I had a frisbee game
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during the the weekend and like sometimes there's people in the stands and I'll say hi to them after the game
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and inevitably there's like one or two people who are like oh have you heard about this like Gadget or this story or
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whatever and the only thing anybody asked me about that day was did you hear about those Windows computers like
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they're they're all blue screening everywhere I was like yeah I did see that I think what's unfortunate is like
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the way that this turned into an issue or the way it reset itself in recovery is such a Microsoft forward thing like
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everyone knows blue screen of death as a Microsoft thing so it almost it looks like solely a Microsoft
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issue the uh Dave's Gage in his second video brought up some points on how like
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it's this is crowdstrike's fault but like is it kind of Microsoft's fault for letting people do this should they have
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a different way of it being able to he explains it so much better than any of us could but if you're looking for like
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what like someone who knows what they're talking about thought on
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microft blame video it's a lot of information
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fantastic uh watch it three times and then do not watch it three times I probably have to watch it at half speed in order to actually understand what's
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going this is the one thing I cannot watch it tox speed it makes a it makes a lot of sense why iOS updates and a lot
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of Apple updates come in waves yeah because if you know if someone's phone gets bricked at least I can like pull
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the plug before every well also you just don't test him production you know were they really testing like or were they
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well it's not testing it the testing and production basically just means pushing without testing but I thought but I
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sounds like the bug was in the testing aspect yeah because they they ran it through the the bug detection software
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oh that's fair as far as they knew yeah tested well in I mean yeah I don't know
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the details but it like it's like did the bug detection software say that it had a bug that wasn't testing it or did
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it say it was okay and it was validated I don't know who knows um but yeah I mean there's there's always a lot of
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drama around iOS updates or app updates on the iPhone not getting approved by
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Apple for one reason or the other usually it's for reasons that don't make any sense and then they eventually
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approve it anyway um but this is one that you definitely need to make sure everything is chill before you push that
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update button yeah so and it's funny that no one had to like there's that
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joke about how windows always wants to update itself at the most like at the worst possible time and no one even
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wanted had to update their Windows computers for this to get pushed it was like a serers side update that kind of
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just completely destroyed a bunch of people's computers it's crazy how much of the world just runs on Microsoft compu the funniest part about all of it
00:28:15
was Southwest didn't go down because they're running Windows like 3.1 which is like a
00:28:21
1993 software and and I did they I think they tweeted actually like cuz they all their
00:28:28
stuff went down a while ago of their weird stuff so now they were like who's
00:28:33
winning now still working there was a good uh post from somebody where an airline in India was literally ticketing
00:28:40
people by hand uh they were just writing the boarding passes by hand drawing QR codes out well another place that runs a
00:28:48
lot of really old Windows systems is hospitals so there was this interesting thing where well no so the people at the
00:28:55
front desk who are using update upto-date window where like we can't book appointments we can't process
00:29:00
payments but the surgical robots that are running on 20 25y old windows
00:29:05
because why would you ever need to update they were fine oh good that is our very base level explanation of it
00:29:11
there's lots of great info out there but highly suggest Dave's Garage and there's a bunch of other great stuff out there as well yeah and it was it made for a
00:29:18
fun Friday yeah as long as you weren't affected by first first some first some
00:29:23
yeah uh okay we should take a break we got to talk about a whole bunch of more stuff including some more phones but before we take that break let's do
00:29:32
[Music] trivia so after the break we're going to
00:29:38
talk about a certain company allegedly maybe getting into the foldable Market
00:29:44
oh yeah but before then a foldable question okay oh folding ideas in
00:29:52
2013 at Mobile World Congress 2013 2013
00:29:57
okay one year the same year that her came out or maybe one year before I
00:30:03
don't remember what year 2013 same year as her who a company a a tech company a blank
00:30:11
tech company gave a demonstration showing off folding OLED
00:30:18
screens what company was it 20 there are two options here
00:30:25
13 that's what you think that's true okay I do remember maybe it's not true I
00:30:32
wonder if this is the mwc that I went to you 2013 sounds like around I've only
00:30:38
gone to one mwc I think it was later when did the Vive come out cuz that's the one you went to cuz there was a
00:30:44
trivia question came looking up Barcelona in my Google photos it wasn't mwc it was
00:30:50
CES at CES oh January that changes everything
00:30:55
2013 folding oleds who did it done it well I was at CES but I was
00:31:03
at mwc 2015 I just found there are three options okay well we'll think about it
00:31:09
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AI all right welcome back so today actually not today but the day this gets
00:32:29
released is the opening ceremony for the Olympics have you heard about that first
00:32:35
time pretty big deal it's pretty cool actually it's pretty cool I'm excited to watch it um but did you see the gifts
00:32:42
that were given out to a bunch of the athletes from Samsung I heard yeah Sam yeah Samsung always gives out a bunch of
00:32:47
phones I didn't know they always did they do for a while yeah one of there there are two Tik toks I found that were
00:32:52
pretty funny and I want to quickly talk about them um one I thought was really
00:32:57
funny it's from a British rowing athlete emo imagin Grant I believe her name is
00:33:05
she may have made the greatest phone upgrade in history she has the
00:33:12
Tokyo uh Samsung Galaxy S21 from the Tokyo Olympics and she has saved it
00:33:17
until she upgraded this year yeah to the flip six from driving the last Olympics phone she she her her phone upgrade was
00:33:25
because she was an Olympian twice that's a FX it it's the coolest screen is like
00:33:30
so messed up it's literally like missing pixels completely and she says in there like she's like I held on to this and
00:33:37
made it survive because all I wanted to do was upgrade it with what if she came and and Samsung decided not to do it or
00:33:43
just give the ring instead or something that would be hilarious awesome so I just think that's like one of the cool
00:33:49
thing and you know there's always people out there asking us hey I want to start a channel how do I get free Tech to
00:33:54
review just become an Olympian yeah just qu for the Olympics and you should be set I don't actually know if like does
00:34:02
every Olympian get a phone feels like that's what happened I how many Olympians are there there are a lot a
00:34:08
lot like thousands of Olympians I can't say for sure all of them do but the other Tik Tok I wanted to talk about is
00:34:14
from the New Zealand swim team and this is from a British rower so it seems like
00:34:20
that's a pretty big distance both water sport it would be really funny if
00:34:25
Samsung's like we only give phones to English-speaking water sport Olympians
00:34:31
yeah basketball players sorry about that track and field athletes nah only if you're water related people chase you'll
00:34:37
get a phone that counts as a swimming base yeah there's a lot water on the track um I just thought that was a
00:34:44
really funny Tik Tok I'll also post both of these in the show notes and by me I mean Adam will do it but um there's
00:34:49
another one of the New Zealand swimming team that I just thought was funny because it's it's a really good representation to me of how like average
00:34:56
people view Tech yeah and it's weird calling Olympians average people because they're anything but average people in
00:35:03
our Tech World they are average Tech the New Zealand swim team is like really young they're definitely young like 19
00:35:09
or something it's really fun watching them open it they're they're like bro it's built like an iPhone whoa it flips
00:35:15
in half what and they say specifically at the end Apple needs to catch up with this stuff like apple needs to make a folding phone but they're they're super
00:35:22
impressed by it they've never I don't think I've seen a folding smartphone they love the screen on the back they
00:35:27
also all do the like ASMR screen peel in the unboxing um it's pretty sweet and
00:35:34
Samsung also has a like special welcome me message on the first boot to Olympians funny part is it boots so fast
00:35:41
none of them could read the entire thing they tried to read on camera just went away to De Olympians and Par Olympian oh it's gone pretty much is how they um
00:35:49
yeah but it's a sweet looking phone it's gold it has like the Olympic rings on the back it's a Galaxy Z flip 6 by the
00:35:55
way sorry if I did not mention that and it comes with a very cool case too that has like this rainbow on it is pretty
00:36:00
sick yeah um this is like the best marketing that Samsung could possibly do literally to get a bunch of people to
00:36:06
like just organically say man Apple needs to catch up to this yeah congrats Samsung marketing team normally you have
00:36:12
to pay people to like do this kind of stuff and just giving them to all the Olympians and have them just naturally
00:36:18
post about it is crazy great marketing yeah it's like it's right in the fuzzy gray area between paid and earned media
00:36:25
cuz because they they did have to give them all phone yeah for free which is like they can AFF to do that pretty
00:36:30
easily and then once you them all custom design phones that you spend extra money customizing for them then they'll all
00:36:37
talk about your I'm assuming in order to even give them those phones Samsung is a gigantic sponsor of the Olympics right I
00:36:44
assume so in some way so these athletes aren't individually getting paid by
00:36:49
Samsung but there's obviously some money exchange but I I would argue the Olympians saying it is organically cuz
00:36:55
none of them I'm assuming signed a contract saying I need to talk about this they're just Olympians all trying
00:37:01
to get show off the Olympic Village every video right now is a Samsung flip
00:37:06
or a cardboard bed from Olympians right now oh because you know what happens they all go to the opening this is
00:37:11
what's going to happen because this did at Tokyo they all go to the opening ceremonies and they're all holding up the phone like recording things and then
00:37:18
Samsung takes those clips and they're like oh see look LeBron James uses a Z flip and that's that's that's how they
00:37:24
get you right yeah yeah also I wish that iPhones did not have dominance in the
00:37:30
United States like they do because this would only work in other countries you know if Samsung if we had a major event
00:37:38
of some kind you mean like the World Cup in 2026 was that in America that going to
00:37:44
beica it's 2026 it hasn't happen I'm just saying like if there was like I don't know some major sports event only
00:37:51
that the UN people in the United States played for and Samsung was like I'm giving you all phones everyone be like
00:37:58
I'm not switching off my iPhone but every other country is like hell yeah I just need Whatsapp you know
00:38:06
yeah I'm sure they could pay enough money to make sure all the people in the US only use that phone for a day for a
00:38:11
day yeah which is all they need fair enough fair enough speaking of folding phones speaking of Apple needing to
00:38:18
catch up with this stuff yeah uh Apple is is allegedly catching up with this
00:38:23
stuff so there was a big leak uh recently that apple is actually
00:38:29
potentially allegedly going to be producing a foldable iPhone in 2026
00:38:34
maybe possibly Ellis looks very frustrated no the opposite excited excited I want to know how many things
00:38:41
we've said in this podcast between the alleged Roadster and the alleged folding iPhone that have been said exactly the
00:38:47
same in how many episodes of w for this is just kind of the state of tech journalism in 2024 everything is just
00:38:53
real and then it's not real and then it's real again you're welcome um yeah obviously we've heard about folding
00:38:59
iPhones for Millennia at this point but apparently allegedly there are suppliers
00:39:05
in different parts of Asia that are actually getting orders for parts for a folding iPhone um very similar to the
00:39:13
Galaxy Z flip it unfortunately for the fans of the hot dog out there um not
00:39:21
going to be an opening phone in the way that it opens horizontally but it will
00:39:26
be more like a Galaxy Z flip where it gets smaller I do like Samsung has
00:39:31
nailed the folding phone in general so good that like when we say fold we think
00:39:37
book style hot dog style and when we say flip we think of that like that's true
00:39:42
yeah which just say flip style flip style I like I think that's the easiest way of saying it fold if you say a
00:39:48
folding phone it's like the fold if you say a flipping phone that's actually a good point like they have almost googlefi the idea of a folding phone is
00:39:55
there a name for that like being so popular you turn into a verb Kleenex
00:40:01
Google when you're brand that's not a verb but but I think it just may be more so than gener gener try to pronounce
00:40:08
that generative AI genericization gener gener
00:40:14
genericization genericization or genericide that sounds terrible yeah we got to cut that no
00:40:21
that's what it says I know no that's the word it's when your yeah when your product/ brand name becomes the noun of
00:40:27
the thing interesting taser um Taser Taser is not brand name brand I mean
00:40:32
it's an acronym but it's also a brand name it's trademarked New Jersey has a extremely specific one which is our pork
00:40:40
roll a lot of people called Taylor Ham no Taylor ham is the brand the brand
00:40:45
sorry sorry yeah get it's the brand I'm from Califoria sorry I just said the wrong thing I know I I've heard this
00:40:51
argument my whole life boy all right let's get back let's get back to the folding hamburgers and hot dogs guys
00:40:56
yeah okay so Samsung so Apple allegedly going to make a flippy iPhone yes the
00:41:02
question is is that what we want is that cuz I've said this on the podcast before
00:41:09
is apple has a bunch of flipping and folding iPhone prototypes somewhere underground in Apple Park and they've
00:41:15
been trying to decide which one for a while and it seems like they're going to do the flippy one my reaction is it's
00:41:22
yeah it's the most popular one but it doesn't feel like the most uh Difference Maker considering the state of the
00:41:28
women's clothing industry I think this is going to do
00:41:34
very well I think this pops yeah and like because of what we've already said
00:41:39
apple is so prominent in the US I think there's so many people who have iPhones now they're like wow Samsung is doing
00:41:46
this really cool thing but I'm not ditching my iPhone and think about every time an iPhone kind of changes and
00:41:51
becomes like some part of it becomes iconic now this is going to be become iconic even though four four or five
00:41:58
other manufacturers have done it already in the US it's going to pop I think that folding phones well F fold style phones
00:42:05
Galaxy fold style phones are like super user phones like there's no way any regular person just went and bought a
00:42:11
OnePlus open so there's a couple reasons for that I mean yes they're also huge and they're like not ideal but they're
00:42:17
also like always the most expensive they're always twice the price of all the other phones that's true so good
00:42:23
point not that Apple's going to be cheap and change that but yeah but I think there's also something to be said for
00:42:28
like when it's a flip phone the the concept is that you're not using your
00:42:34
phone quite as often whereas the fold phone is that you're using your phone the same amount but when you're really
00:42:40
using it you're super using it you know and so the idea of the flip phone is for
00:42:46
I guess more targeted at like fashion and normies because they're not like the
00:42:51
power users that are constantly wanting to do things big on their phone it's not extra functionality it's extra
00:42:58
pocket ability and and it still does have a wise a wow factor yeah like
00:43:04
people like wow factors and phones I think we all know that but this is I think the flip flip style makes perfect
00:43:09
sense for it makes the most sense I've also been trying to picture an apple flipping iPhone and if there's any way
00:43:16
that they can differentiate from all the ones that are already out cuz I feel like I feel like we've seen it all but I also felt like that about VR headsets
00:43:22
and now they have the googly eyes on the outside so is there is there an Apple version here's how it's different uhuh
00:43:29
it folds it has an Apple logo on it I mean Oh you mean from other that's good enough for a lot of people yeah that's
00:43:34
good enough for a lot of people I feel like they're just going to put everything that's cool about the
00:43:40
dynamic Island on the front screen I don't think it'll be an actual usable screen kind of like the Samsung phones
00:43:47
or they just won't have a screen on the front that would be crazy would be tough
00:43:53
doesn't that defeat the point not really you think so I need to see the time or something on the it's funny I want to
00:43:59
see the back more than the front of the folding iPhone they did such a good job with standby mode on the current iPhone
00:44:04
I feel like they could really whip up something really that would be cool yeah so my question is there was this leak a
00:44:10
few weeks ago that I believe we covered that they are apparently trying to release an iPhone Slim in
00:44:17
2027 but I'm wondering if these are the same product because in the article that
00:44:24
I read the articles that I read about the folding iPhones they said they're actively still working to make it
00:44:29
thinner so I'm wondering if these are like the same product and the leaks got mixed up somehow um which would be
00:44:36
interesting yeah but apparently it's moving ahead which is good to see because you know the last major design
00:44:43
change that we saw on the iPhone was the iPhone 12 and even that was like you know we went from circular to squared
00:44:48
off I feel like the 10 was the one everyone remembers yeah and yeah the
00:44:53
difference between the iPhone 15 and 16 is like probably not not going to be that much yeah you know yeah there's
00:44:59
apparently going yeah wait no yeah the variable aperture is apparently going to be in the 17 I think there's a there
00:45:05
were a lot of Apple leaks this week uh including apparently allegedly a foldable MacBook like device
00:45:14
foldable display yeah CU everyone always says that that would be so funny yeah I
00:45:20
know I know I know already we get it but okay foldable display laptop but apparently uh it should have two options
00:45:27
either 18.8 in or 20 in that's almost the same I don't know 20 in is pretty big 19
00:45:35
and 20 well 18 well wa wait yeah 20in
00:45:40
display when the display is folded out and then doesn't have keyboard and then it has that is still half the size it
00:45:46
said when it's folded in it's about 15 in and then it's folded out it's about 20 Ines oh oh so it's doing some sounds
00:45:54
some like Moto razor yeah so it said when it's closed uh well when it's like folded closed it's about the smaller one
00:46:00
is 13 to 14 inches and when it's open it's 18.8 and then the bigger one is
00:46:07
about 15 in closed and 20 in open so footprint wise there's two laptops a
00:46:12
13in and a 15 in when they're closed yes when you open them they're a big foldable screen so the small one is an
00:46:19
18 in and the large one is a that feels like too small at time I still think is not that big 15 to 20 in no oh 18 to
00:46:27
18.8 to 20 well yeah what from what I read you're still going to be able to use it when it's when it's not unfolded
00:46:36
oh so it's not like it's not yeah it's it's like expanding not okay closed
00:46:42
completely I guys the I am so excited about this
00:46:48
because I need someone to draw this for me the best my favorite form factor of
00:46:55
any modern device I've used mhm like like modern computer the boooks pal no
00:47:01
form factor the Asus Zenbook 17 fold oh that computer
00:47:09
sucks that computer's really it really is terrible but the form factor where
00:47:15
that you've got the keyboard that you lay over the bottom half of the screen you open it you can put it on the kickstand you can use it as a little
00:47:20
laptop if Apple could perfect that this is one I found where there's two concepts so these are just Concepts but
00:47:27
if this is the way the concept works it would make the most sense in terms of the numbers that you're saying this is
00:47:34
uh who posted this here's Majin Buu is the concept of who made it imagine a
00:47:43
Macbook and then the screen just comes all the way down to where the the
00:47:48
keyboard is and it's basically a touch bar now part of the screen and that folds so you're gaining like an inch
00:47:55
vertically of space the whole L that's why you're only going from like 15 to 18
00:48:01
in but that display is under this Verge article says uh kuo says that Apple's
00:48:07
considering an 18 okay uh an 18.8 inch panel when closed the 20-in version will
00:48:14
reportedly look similar to the 14 to 15in MacBook while the 18.8 in device
00:48:19
will look like a 13 to 14inch MacBook I see that's what kuo is reporting and that Verge covered but that's a
00:48:26
different so okay who knows they just seem to want to bring the touch bar idea back I I would lean towards that because
00:48:33
if the just full screen folding in half I would assume they'd call that a folding iPad not a folding MacBook well
00:48:39
does it run Mac OS or iPad OS true it's like also like when you have the the the
00:48:45
the trackpad keyboard combo unit that like sandwiches in the middle like the Asus Sun book 17 fold uh it really it's
00:48:53
it's a laptop for sure it's a it's a mobile it's a mobile MF Computer Guys it
00:48:59
rules mobile first yeah terrible computers don't buy one doesn't matter how cheap it is it's not worth it but
00:49:04
God is it awes I me it's not cheap it's really expens well it's old they like they've replaced well the newest one's like $3,000 yeah I think it the when it
00:49:12
came out was 24 you get 16 gabes of ram it's like what that's who are you kidding fine I don't know anyway okay
00:49:20
alphabet is committing five billion more dollars to weo which is a lot of money
00:49:26
um have any of you guys used weo in production recently nope no okay it'sing
00:49:32
very very California it's amazing every time I'm in San Francisco I use it and it's just so freaking good um it's crazy
00:49:39
it feels safer than most of the Ubers that drive me around uh I believe that
00:49:44
yeah yeah yeah so Google apparently had a very well alphabet had a very strong quarter this past quarter uh apparently
00:49:52
it was because of AI Solutions which at first was
00:49:57
like how but then I realized it was mostly because of Google Cloud AI stuff
00:50:03
which makes more sense because developers are actually using this kind of stuff uh the cloud division hit $10
00:50:08
billion for the first time and $1 billion in operating operating profit um
00:50:14
and I think that that is sort of what allowed them to put more money into weo so they're not going to kill it
00:50:20
yet um yeah so the interesting thing about this is like weo is so good
00:50:26
already and it's operating three major cities it's operating in San Francisco Phoenix and Los and parts of Los Angeles
00:50:33
and writing in wh Mo It Feels So polished that I really am starting to
00:50:40
feel like they're they need competition like ASAP otherwise they're just going
00:50:46
to be like a monopoly in the driverless car space um famously there was Cruz
00:50:53
which still technically exists and I believe recently got their license to go back onto the streets but there was this
00:50:59
huge uh problem well there was an incident with Cruz where someone got hit by a different car got knocked into the
00:51:05
street and then a cruise vehicle dragged them um a certain amount of feet and
00:51:10
then they got put under investigation all the stuff happened I believe they're back on the road uh but either way yes
00:51:17
it seems like venmo is going to continue to we mo venm mo jeez they're all mo it
00:51:24
seems like wh MO is going to continue to improve and potentially reach more cities and whatnot um but if you guys
00:51:30
ever go to San Francisco or Phoenix or Los Angeles I highly recommend it and they also opened up rides to anyone very
00:51:37
recently do they give rides from the airport no not yet but they are that's the next thing that they're doing in San Francisco okay that's the most common
00:51:45
California Uber that I take and it's only a 15minute drive as well in San Francisco Airport's a whole another
00:51:50
Beast I feel like cuz that's yeah when I hear that it's in San Francisco proper I just imagine like okay I see those
00:51:56
Street as being like ready for that type of driver uh New York City is a totally
00:52:03
different animal and I wonder like why they're in these three particular cities is because these are very much driving
00:52:09
cities and they're going to be best in driving cities and yeah New York City is not really a driving City well San
00:52:15
Francisco I wouldn't really consider a driving City no not really it's like in the city city or like all of San
00:52:21
Francisco in the city city it's not it's not like the East Bay or anything it's not the general Bay Area it's just the
00:52:28
city of San Francisco okay the 7 by7 square mile area gotcha yeah so but very
00:52:34
good so anyway I'm I'm excited that Google is not immediately killing this product that I like um say it three
00:52:43
times in they might it just might happen they might with that I think we should
00:52:48
take it to our second trivia [Music]
00:52:55
question should uh dude so second question the
00:53:01
dc01 is a popular Home Appliance made by which
00:53:08
company thought dco1 was like the barrel connector plug that gets plugged in for
00:53:13
DC power probably isn't that what they call it sure no idea I might need a
00:53:21
hint1 you said home home company appliance Home Appliance Appliance home
00:53:27
appliance company can't be that popular I've never heard of a dco1 what is the dco1 I haven't heard of half the names
00:53:34
of appliances in my house they're names pretty poorly that's true what's the
00:53:39
what's the model of your dishwasher I don't have a dishwasher I hope it has the word
00:53:46
dishwasher in it I doubt it Sony
00:53:51
wh1000x Mark washer I have a Samsung dishwasher but it be so funny if it's a dco1 and you try SE right now dishwash
00:53:58
uh they do not have I doubt it okay well we'll guess and get it wrong after the
00:54:06
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00:55:22
goal is to not bore everybody I actually think the story is fairly interesting it's there's an overarching like thing
00:55:30
question here about it have we created a piece of Hardware that basically is pay to win for video games thanks Adam do
00:55:37
that in about three minutes and it'll be totally valid not only pay to win for video games but like undetectable by
00:55:44
software yeah pretty much um but in order to explain what's going on I need
00:55:50
to explain a very specific mechanic and an extremely specific video
00:55:56
we're going to be talking about Razer and a new keyboard they have out called the Huntsman 3 and it has a a piece of
00:56:04
inside of the hardware and software it makes something extremely easy almost like cheating like there's a video out
00:56:11
by this guy name Optimum about how this is essentially cheating in specific video games MH okay so in some tactical
00:56:18
Shooters like counter- strike there's uh a mechanic called counter strafing and
00:56:24
what happens is in order to shoot with 100% accuracy your character needs to not be moving have you ever played like
00:56:30
an FPS where your Crosshair kind of Moves In and Out based on how much you're moving and that's how much spread
00:56:36
the bullets will have MH counter- strike is extremely specific to where you have to be completely stopped moving and in
00:56:42
order to do that you can't just hold the move right key and let go because your
00:56:47
character has momentum as they're stopping so if you want to be at the absolute top level of this game you want
00:56:54
that difference between letting go of the key and and stop moving and having 100% accuracy that could be the difference between being the top
00:57:02
rank in order to do that you have to hold the right key let go and tap the
00:57:08
left key super fast and that will stop you immediately it's an extremely hard mechanic to learn you have to have very
00:57:15
precise movement with it or timing with it thing it's a feel thing and if you
00:57:20
overlap those two key presses at the same time it doesn't work because it's activating both key presses my homies
00:57:26
that played a lot of GameCube um there was a mechanic in Super Smash Bros melee called wave
00:57:32
dashing and wave cancelling where you would basically do the same thing where you could kind of
00:57:38
like manipulate the the the button presses to like allow you to uh execute
00:57:44
a movement faster because the mechanic of the game would make you like slide or
00:57:50
trip or something and it wouldn't allow for inputs before you were standing still again but there was a way to sort
00:57:56
of like flick it so that you would be almost trip and then you would fall back and then you could do it faster and the
00:58:02
pros just like I'm assuming in these FPS games you basically have to do this if
00:58:08
you want to be at the highest tier if you're a pro Counterstrike player you know how to Counterstrike and you've probably spent decades mastering it I
00:58:15
mean it is something where Pros aren't even doing it 100% of the time that's how like specific this is and because of
00:58:21
that with keyboards there's been this new fad recently called hall effect which is is kind of taking over the
00:58:27
gaming keyboard space where instead of a metal pin that connects whenever each keystroke hits It's a magnet and you can
00:58:34
uh adjust the activation point of where your keystroke is so rather than going
00:58:40
all the way down to bottom out .1 millim down now activates it and it also has a cool thing where the minute you let go
00:58:46
of it it deactivates it rather than having to hit 50% up or whatever that is that's one of the thing that's helping
00:58:52
this I kind of want to do a short on it on the studio Channel soon because they really popular but Razer introduced this
00:58:58
newer thing which is partially the hall effect keyboard switches and partially a software where essentially it's only
00:59:05
taking the last input that you have so if you're strafing left and right with A and D because WD is your usual movement
00:59:12
Keys you can press right and then tap a and it's now overtaken the D key without
00:59:17
having to have any travel for deactivation it essentially is creating a space that is impossible to overlap
00:59:24
key presses which is the main thing making this really hard to do and
00:59:30
timing I mean that's basically it it's really it's making a keyboard that is a
00:59:36
couple hundred dollar and taking years and years and years of timing and practice and making it something you can
00:59:42
do almost immediately you still have to be good at the rest of the game but it does break this point it's like an
00:59:47
ultimate disc that has special magnets that only interact with your fingernails so if your hand is in the right place
00:59:53
it'll it'll snap I was going to make a devil's Advocate Sports analogy as well sure I'll try because I think in well
01:00:00
okay this is a piece of equipment this keyboard and theoretically if everybody gets this keyboard then everyone's on the same playing field again which is
01:00:08
funny because it reminds me of in golf there was a moment where there was these super have you seen these these like uh
01:00:15
belly Putters that are like extra tall and they will like anchor it into their chest and like use it as a
01:00:21
pendulum um they got banned okay but there was a moment where some golfers
01:00:26
were using them and some weren't and it felt like there was like a animosity
01:00:32
towards like it's kind of cheating like I I don't know it shouldn't be legal and now they got banned but it's like if everybody used them we'd all be on the
01:00:38
same playing field so is it cheating yeah like it's illegal the keyboard well
01:00:43
that's the thing and here's one example that kind of makes this feel illegal is there used to be this thing called null
01:00:49
cancelling which was a script that people would incorporate into Counterstrike I mean years and years and
01:00:55
years ago that would do essentially the same thing but because it was a script it was considered cheating and it was
01:01:01
banned from being used in Counter-Strike games I don't know exactly how Razer is doing this differently and in fact since
01:01:07
Razer released it a company that made hall effect keyboards extremely popular wooting almost immediately released a
01:01:15
software update for all of their keyboards that does something super similar in a couple other cooler ways what in software in software
01:01:21
retroactively turning all of their keyboards into having this feature now yeah so I I just want I'm like interested in
01:01:28
what happens is valve itself going to ban this what's going to happen are we
01:01:33
in a Pay to Win kind of place is there something that like valve could do to
01:01:39
incorporate this already so everyone's on the same thing but then that also Now sucks for these people that have spent I
01:01:44
mean you still obviously have to have map sense and proper Crosshair placement and all these different things to be good at the game but it's one variable
01:01:51
that no longer matters as much right it is and it's one that's like so specific spe to like taking yourself to the next
01:01:59
level yeah it's one of those like super specific things you just learn for so long yeah yeah it's one of those things
01:02:04
where like well this game is an online game most people are playing it online and so sure maybe for inperson land Pro
01:02:13
matches you can ban these type of keyboards or say everyone has to use them one of the two but when you just
01:02:20
have the your average player on the internet it you are going to be better than the people you're playing against
01:02:26
if you have the keyboard isn't there a way for them to detect it though I don't know cuz if I play like Call of Duty
01:02:32
mobile and I attach a backbone eventually it'll be like it looks like you're using a controller like we're going to only PA yeah we're going to
01:02:38
like put you in a room with other people that are using controllers I that's a USBC interface so like I can tell I
01:02:45
don't know about that is a keyboard not a USBC well keyboard I mean I don't know if the computer needs to like validate a
01:02:50
serial number of a keyboard I think like the only yeah the only thing that the computer would see is like damn this guy
01:02:55
is really good at taking his finger off the input that it's detecting on d That's why like it it was hard for them
01:03:01
to detect scripts for a long time because it was sort of like manip it was like manipulating the key presses
01:03:06
themselves I do think though so just to make sure that this didn't feel like just really good marketing to make it
01:03:12
seem like oh this is basically like cheating I went to the CS2 subreddit and there's a lot of people who seem to be
01:03:17
pretty upset by this so it does seem like a reasonable thing that at least some people are worried about but they
01:03:23
were saying that because does a key can never overlap the way you would tap and
01:03:29
do these different things is so perfect that if you were looking it would be
01:03:34
like the difference in milliseconds would be perfect every single time of you doing it so is that how they enable
01:03:40
something like that because detction even in the best is so close and the best players are that there is some sort of variance in it but if you're always
01:03:47
yeah but you could code that in well yeah I mean people did it was called null cancelling and they banned
01:03:52
it so like I mean the keyboard like if they updated you're saying you could code variance too you know you can make
01:03:58
it so it's like if it's between frames seven and 14 you could just put it at different intervals between it every
01:04:05
time yeah I don't know valerant you don't need to counter strafing so it
01:04:10
doesn't really matter I never learned how to do it I tried to learn how to do it is extremely tough I'm sure there's plenty of people say who say it's not
01:04:18
that hard but those people have probably been playing Counterstrike for like 10 years and I've learned how to do games it's always it's Counter Strike it's uh
01:04:25
it's a super Smash Bros melee it's games that got released before you could just like patch everything a ton which
01:04:31
Counter Strike is online you can patch it but I think what's cool about though is watching the players who have been
01:04:36
playing stuff like that for so long just be at an absolute Next Level that is wild like even in just valerant which
01:04:43
probably has like some incredible players who've been playing Counterstrike before because it's similar there'll be days where I'm like
01:04:49
damn I feel like I'm really on and I'll go into a match and just get crushed and be like I cannot believe there are
01:04:55
people who make me look like I've never played this game before yeah if you go watch Pro Super Smash Bros melee those
01:05:01
people literally all day like they're in the gym will train movements on the GameCube controller just like over and
01:05:08
over and over again comos just like wave dashing and wave cancelling and like all
01:05:13
they become human macro machines pretty much a lot of the stuff you have to get frame perfect on so it's just training
01:05:20
your muscle memory as much as physically possible and this keyboard just does that does it for you for you without
01:05:25
having to Lear how much is this keyboard I think it's 180 bucks suspicious I'm Pro Counterstrike player
01:05:33
now just curious um 180 I think yeah 180 it looks like for the Mini version
01:05:40
um what what will really happen here is the amount of people that this really does that much to will probably be super
01:05:47
minimal because the majority of people buying this to feel like it's cheating will still suck at the game and all the
01:05:53
other aspects of the game if you can do this move your I'm not beating you anyway like sure get the keyboard and
01:05:59
let it help you out but there the pro level it's probably going to suck there are people who are in like the top 1%
01:06:05
that this might help get them into the top .5% or something like that yeah probably not exactly there I think it's
01:06:10
an interesting conversation of just like when is Hardware going to start doing too much and what are the uh you can't
01:06:18
like rep you can't just like replace the entire keyboard industry overnight you know yeah well and if it
01:06:24
gets to the point where the pros are like this one does actually help me better cuz even if Pros are doing this 90% of the time this is 100% of the time
01:06:30
yeah now does every Pro have to use this keyboard or does every keyboard company have to incorporate this are we going to
01:06:35
start Banning Hardware what everys team is going to be like we have to use hall effect switches my guess would be it
01:06:43
just gets banned I think this specific software one gets banned I think hall effect will stay
01:06:49
in yeah cuz that's a little tougher and just a new technology I don't know I just thought it was interesting uh also
01:06:55
note uh a lot of Nintendo switch controller update upgrades or better
01:07:01
controllers are now using hall effect as well because uh the switch controllers famously the joycons will start drifting
01:07:08
because you do enough of these like movements on them and eventually the parts that are supposed to keep it
01:07:14
perfectly centered will just kind of start moving to the side so hall effect is the same kind of update where it's
01:07:20
using magnets instead so there's not a physical contact that is like forcing this drift to eventually occur so they
01:07:26
last way longer hall effect is really cool in the keyboard community and it's super popular in like keyboard Gaming
01:07:33
Community right now do you know why it's called hall effect I don't essentially when you have a magnetic field being
01:07:39
intersected perpendicularly by an electrical current you're going to have some of those electrons pulled to one
01:07:45
side of the wire just because of the Len Force now when you have electrons on one
01:07:50
side of a wire and not on another side of a wire we can call that a potential difference which we can measure as a
01:07:57
voltage so because the strength of that magnetic field is what dictates the
01:08:02
amount of potential difference it means we can measure the voltage and know how far away those magnets are from one
01:08:09
another I hope that makes sense in the Realms of a keyboard anyway thanks for
01:08:14
letting me nerd out for a little bit and back to the show anyway yeah I think we've officially lost everybody so time
01:08:21
to wrap it up effect superposition yeah
01:08:29
trivia time so dud what trivia D it's a people on
01:08:38
anyway continue I don't there's a never mind yeah steal all right earlier this
01:08:45
episode we talked about foldable Ione I know right um but apple is
01:08:54
usually late to the game on display Technologies in this case as of right now they are 11 years late because in
01:09:01
2013 at CES not Mobile World Congress but CES what display manufacturer tech
01:09:10
company extraordinaire gave a folding F gave a folding screen
01:09:18
demonstration I feel like it's not who we think it is it could be I have a
01:09:23
feeling may it won't probably I don't know if this helps or hurts but the code name of the project
01:09:32
was y yum y o u m sounds Korean
01:09:41
yum I'm going to be mad if this is the obvious one yeah me too
01:09:48
oh all right who wants to read first I was going to put LG and then I put
01:09:53
Royale I put Royale spelled correctly though oh is it I
01:09:59
think I hope it's correct I don't know you're right that's right Marquez that's how you spell it uh I put LG but you
01:10:06
have something crossed out on your board I was split between Samsung and LG and I crossed out Samsung and kept LG it was
01:10:13
in fact Samsung oh my and you know what's hilarious they gave a terrific
01:10:21
demonstration of uh of all these folding screens they even sort of crumpled one
01:10:26
yeah they've they've done that like every year though the only phone that came out that they uh unveiled on stage
01:10:34
that year was the one where the right side sort of Curves over oh it's funny
01:10:40
like I know Royale was like way later with the actual folding one but they were their Booth always had like the one
01:10:46
year they just had like this fake tree where all the leaves were like they folding like screens I was like oh maybe
01:10:54
they've been doing this for just didn't have in phone LG also makes a lot of weird experimental display TCH
01:11:00
so I kind of figured but Samsung pretty much every year that I went to CES would always have like new versions of weird
01:11:06
folding screens TCL has a bunch of weird stuff at CES too with like the trifold
01:11:12
you scroll try anything I made a whole video on that yeah rollable display it
01:11:17
was like a it was a it was a accordion phone it was the one that like yeah oh
01:11:24
there were two there was one that was a that was a like a roller that you would press but go up like that and then there
01:11:31
was the it was an accordion the trifold the trifold trifold the trifold I actually think the the rolling
01:11:39
one was the coolest cuz it was like a normal phone and then the right side would just like spin out and get like
01:11:44
longer it was sweet the trifold is hilarious trifold was fantastic how you get like a brochure yeah trivia dude
01:11:52
there you go David Okay so to answer the poll from last week's episode oh yeah oh
01:12:00
that's right we have to dish out a point I think I lost that one yeah did well no
01:12:06
spoilers the first comment first of all the first comment Cole Lewis 92 thank
01:12:12
you for uh voting and commenting said the person that wrote the question loses three
01:12:18
points but then James David thank you for commenting and voting presumably 3
01:12:23
days ago said took it from a pop quiz that Google themselves published so it was Google forgetting their own product
01:12:29
lines also go loses three points so Google loses three points is the mor of the story anyway the
01:12:35
answer with 54% of the vote is oh 54 54%
01:12:40
that's close chomecast yes no that's not close cuz there's three people so you
01:12:45
got over half of the long answer so even though it's wrong CH no a bunch of
01:12:51
people said that the the yeah there was a bunch of like disclaimers a bunch of people said the Chromebook that Marquez
01:12:57
mentioned specifically was never actually released as a consumer no but the Chromebook Pixel was the correct was
01:13:04
is the correct answer true that's true yeah I agree but the people have spoken
01:13:10
David yes I guess you had like a developers or something that the c48
01:13:16
yeah yeah they said that it it was only given to developers or something and never actually released as so thank you
01:13:22
thank you everyone for voting and uh commenting it was fun to read those over the weekend it was fun um okay so now
01:13:28
quick update on the score yes Marquez with 14 Andrew with 13 and David with 15
01:13:37
let's go now we can get on to question number two the dc01 is a popular Home
01:13:44
Appliance made by which company Appliance Appliance currently made oh
01:13:50
wait do batteries I no they do not still make it
01:13:55
they don't no but they still very much make things in the same vein do batteries count as
01:14:02
appliances my marker um was it the first one they don't make
01:14:08
it anymore it was the first thing this company or it was the first of this thing that that's this company ever made
01:14:15
that they would continue to make wait was it wait sorry was the question the company or the product company company
01:14:21
can I write the company cuz I wrote the product I gave you the product the DC's the question is thect not the category
01:14:27
okay oh I know what you mean yeah yeah okay I'll I'll allow it I'll allow it okay um all right three two one flip
01:14:35
them and read what do you got put the General Electric no I put General
01:14:44
Electric really both of you guys I put Dyson correct I literally thought it was
01:14:49
the first vacuum was the dc01 the Dyson dc0 did you know that I just D Dyson
01:14:57
that's it yeah honestly I almost didn't put it because we never mentioned Dyson in this episode and you usually pick a
01:15:02
question know we somehow mention in every other episode but yeah like yeah I thought
01:15:08
about that too I also thought it might have been dur cell that does sound like a battery that sounds like a like the
01:15:14
weird battery that's in like your car key fob that you have to replace randomly and yeah look it up it also
01:15:22
sounds like a teenage engineering product does as well true people are selling the original CR 48 on eBay for
01:15:30
$11,000 oh my God which how is how you know it was never actually made as a consumer product yeah dang wait you
01:15:37
still have yours I do time to flip it yeah you should yeah this one is four parts not working current bid $111,000
01:15:44
what yours is working I think maybe I haven't turned it on in a while could be
01:15:49
worth a million you know how I knew that about Dyson was that I'm pretty sure my vacuum is like dc7 or something that was
01:15:56
the hint I was trying I was hoping you guys would get that you all own current vacuums that it's similarly Nam got it
01:16:02
can I can I round up the score before we uh take it home all right count up the score we have Ellis with carry the one
01:16:09
Google with negative three points Marquez with 14 Andrew with
01:16:17
14 and David in the lead 15 points thank
01:16:22
you Google this is a good even race yeah yeah this is so far anyway could be
01:16:27
overtaken at any time yeah just wait trivia Extravaganza well the points don't
01:16:33
matter everybody loses the points are going to come raining down bingo I still
01:16:38
think if we're tied it should be a 1 hour long episode with one point up for grads it's an hourlong
01:16:47
question it's the sat who get the we all have to and
01:16:53
whoever gets the highest score write your essay starts now well with that we will let you guys write your essays in
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I got kicked out of calculus because I faked taking
01:17:46
trigonometry and he didn't know well what I did was I took trigonometry
01:17:52
through Stanford during the summer oh online but I didn't finish it and uh but
01:17:58
I enrolled in calculus and I tried really hard and I failed everything and
01:18:04
at one point my teacher was like David you didn't take trig did
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you oh
