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every kangaroo is kind of Jack lcky that's true you ever pet a kangaroo no you ever seen a deer what yes kangaroos
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are just deer and then they just like use their tail to walk it's weird anyway it is weird and then sometimes they get
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on all four legs kangaroos are like deer except they stand upright hold their babies in their pouch underneath no they
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walk on all fours sometimes and it's like is weird it's like a weird like yeah it's hella weird
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[Music] yo what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of The W for podcast we're your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David it's good to be
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back we have a pretty big Newsweek my first week back which is very exciting jumping right into it
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welcome back uh yeah we had the Apple event so wait wait wait wait Marquez what did you do in Australia oh yeah oh
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yeah well I did take a couple weeks to go to play the world championships for Ultimate Frisbee and have they go and we won oh let's go it could M really
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well it went as well as it could have gone we uh actually USA swept yeah so every division so there's there's open there's women's and there's mixed and US won all the divisions didn't go
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undefeated through the tournament it wasn't without a little bit of who lost women's team lost to Colombia in power
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pools oh wow and they were a very telling you guys colia is Andrew was saying the whole time like they need to
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watch out for Columbia I was saying they got more oxygen in their lungs exactly but they they came through in the finals
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that's that's less isn't it high altitude high altitude is less oxygen hearts are stronger of so they're
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in Australia like they're like it's delicious I'm powerful this air is thick you you also got bookends for the final point in the championship so like he started on defense he's the one who
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created the turnover and then scored the points that was dummy nice that was cool that was cool I I'm not sure yet if that
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was real I kind of blacked out a little bit it's like the coolest thing you can do on dline especially to win a game to
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win the tournament world yeah that's insane it's like one of the coolest things you can do that's insane yeah and
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then they gave us the medals and there was like kangaroos on the horizon and I was like is this real it was so cool that literally
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sounds like got bit by a spider at once the hospital yeah it was a good time that's what happened to me sure um
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actually the next day I went and saw that was the one like kind of Tourism day with the team and we saw a bunch of
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like Wildlife stuff oh that went to a koala Conservatory I think is what it's called yeah and so we saw koalas which 95% of the koalas you see are just like
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half asleep in a tree shoveling eucalyptus leaves into their mouth like they're not doing much but then for some
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reason the last 10% or them they're running around have you seen koalas run around never in my life it's like
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watching a teddy bear run it's weird it's surreal actually yeah so that happens they like snarl and bark at you
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too right they make insane noises I don't know how to explain the noises they make but you whatever you're
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thinking it's not that it's kind of like a dinosaur type Jurassic Park noise this like the opposite of an eagle where you
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think an eagle makes a really cool noise and it's dumb and you'd think a koala would make a really cutesy little noise and it makes like a nasty noise and it's
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like a like a kodo dragon noise it's insane yeah so shout out to koalas pulling up a video of aala koala sound
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yeah yeah that just sounds like a pig but the whole time they're like looking into the sky this is a very territorial thing okay I might be how
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how koala a koala is like French Bulldog that's a okay yeah that's bigger than I thought yeah
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cuz cuz that's a deep that's a deep tone it sounds bigger that that was David um we saw dingos we saw crocodiles
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we saw is that like a dog thing it's like a wild dog it looks just like a regular dog actually to be honest I feel
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like that's not much different than like right is that just what Australians called dogs no they had it's uh they
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were in a part of this like fenced off area he look at that a Dango over there wild dogs yeah a Dango
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cockos uh wallabies platypus o really yeah all kinds of weird animals over there no bummer it was behind a glass so anyway yeah Australia was a
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good time it's there it's a very different time zone so I sorry if I just like fall asleep mid podcast might
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happen I can already see your eyes are like a little glazed over good I'm good we just had like a nice little rede flight I slept like an hour it was
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awesome um anyway this week we had a bunch of stuff a bunch of tech stuff we had a Monday Apple event it was a September
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event which means we got the iPhone we also got the airpods and the Apple Watch updates for this year and that kind of overshadowed some other Tech stuff we
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also got which was a Huawei trifold smartphone yeah and the PS5 Pro announcement so there's we got a lot to talk about yeah it's a big week it's a whole it's a whole episode uh it's a
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whole episode should we start with the we should start with the the the the Apple event yeah let's start with the app cool okay well in order of what they
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talked about in the event it was kind of apple intelligence and then right into Apple watch and then airpods yeah and there was some rumors about Apple watch
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being a whole big refresh this whole dramatic redesign and then they do play this really dramatic video you know how
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Apple does they'll have this like super boomy crazy reveal and then and it looked just like the old Apple watch
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just a little thinner all new design baby all new redesign they did call it a redesign but if we're being honest it's
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just a thinner it's a little bit flatter a little more square right barely barely
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not that much yeah barely if you put them side by side there's somewhere it's like the you know two photos with a split down the middle and that that's
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how you notice that you can tell but still even that thinner it makes it look more squared off but it's not really it's notice aable but also who cares it
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was really funny because they was like it's 10 10% lighter so that you know your wrist won't have all this like and
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it's was like who is at the end of the day like my watch has really been killing my arm like nobody is like that
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10% lighter also Apple watch Ultron next yeah yeah so the main changes we got are
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it's a it's 10% thinner and 10% lighter the aluminum has is there a new color even I don't remember there's the yeah the black the jet black jet black which is a call back to the iPhone 7 days I
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remember that thing that thing scratched a lot yes it did we'll see if this one does too and then they replace stainless steel with titanium so instead of
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stainless steel models there's titanium Apple watch for a lot of money which are still quite expensive but you can get
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natural you can get uh like dark or light so titanium that's also lighter than stainless steel great uh they
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charge faster they'll go 80% in 30 minutes which is nice and there's some some minor new features like a couple new watch faces I think the always on display showing the secondhand is is
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neat I think that that's really cool to be honest it's funny that we went from like we were doing that from the
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beginning and then they're like wait that takes all the battery so then they made it so that it doesn't update and it only updates every minute and then now
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they're like okay we're finally efficient enough that we can actually be like a normal watch but I think is a is
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nice it just kind of adds to the schorm I have a a stupid watch Person question yeah does that secondhand tick
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or does it sweep it ticks it ticks it ticks sweeping would be way more it's a one Hertz refresh it depends on the the
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watch face you're using oh I know I think they all do one per second one per second so would be like a constant watch
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not manual watch yeah but I think David's right in in when the screen is actually on like you're looking at the watch some of them sweet and when it's on but when it's off it ticks yeah yeah
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one I think my most update with it is these are called they're calling it I don't know what this means but a wide
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angle OLED display yes I looked at it side by side with the Apple Watch series 9 and it is a slightly brighter off-axis
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viewing angle which is nice CU a watch you're not always looking at it exactly face on you might check it with like it
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sort of off to the side so it's nice that it's brighter off axis MH um there's some new apps there's a new updated depth app there's a tide zap now
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there's a water temperature sensor in the series 10 some reason and there is a uh uh update coming that will enable
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sleep apnea detection once it gets FDA approval and a bunch of other regular tur bodies approve it it will use just
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the gyroscope to assess if you have potential high levels of sleep apnea in which case you can take a PDF to your
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doctor and go from there so yeah just a gyroscope just a gyroscope specifically that's interesting it's just the gyroscope theel accelerometer sorry yeah just the
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accelerometer so just movement it's because mimo uh is suing still so I was well I was wondering about the the microphone because like if you stop breathing during your sleep you'd assume that noise would be helpful to detection
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but they don't use anything from the microphones yeah I wonder if also a microphone could pick someone next to
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you or like not all sleep apnea is straight snoring or like gasping it's like can be pretty quiet not breathing
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yeah I mean I have a I used to use a sleep tracking app that you just put your phone on your uh bed on your
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bedside or on your bed and it would use the microphones and accelerometer to determine when you're asleep and when you're awake so the fact that the watch
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doesn't have to record anything is that's nice yeah it's very interesting how deep into the medical space they're
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getting L of Health features that'll be a theme for airod I mean if Amazon can buy one medical and make a medicine
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thing I'm sure Apple will eventually do that too yeah they're always careful to say that it's not actually a medical
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grade device this year they this is the most got into like medical grade stuff and later even more so exactly yeah but that's Apple Watch series 10 that's that's kind of it same prices not a ton
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whoa whoa who tell tell me you don't care about audio without telling me you don't care about
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my the one thing with audio is in order to make it thinner they did re-engineer the speakers to be 30% less volume but just as loud so they're more efficient
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speakers less oh okay got it and yeah not not a volume inside the watch so they're more efficient and they have also allowed you to play sound out of the watch speakers
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Yeah by themselves so if you have local music or anything you want to play out of your watch speaker you can do it you
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can be the guy on the hike who's just walking with music on people in the subway are going to go wild with this
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man yeah you could you could do it if you want to now yeah you can leave your friends behind so I you know what would
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be really cool though if it was like really loud like like deafening it's going to be like for sure I well when we get one we'll we'll test out but it'd be really funny to like be on the subway
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and just go yeah you know what's funny the the watch Ultra has that crazy loud siren
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that's like they don't usually use the speakers in the watches very much but it does have a siren in it also like I
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can't imagine I feel like the the obvious use of this is running but can you imagine hearing your music like
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what's the Doppler effect it's just straight Doppler effect the that's a good point you got run like this this
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might be a dumb question can you take phone calls on it yeah that's true that's the other use of this is that just for this new one or could you do
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that before like can you take phone calls with it coming out of your watch you could have done that before so that's maybe one of the only uses where
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you could use the speaker of the watch before well it was also so I used the Nike run Club app and they have like
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marathon training programs and I was using that and annoyingly it's like the connection between your airpods and your
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watch is not very solid so it disconnects a lot or just doesn't connect a lot so a lot of the time I
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would be running and the coach just out of my watch while I was in the gym would be like all right now we're gonna stop
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and I was like oh gosh stop stop talking but yeah just was coming out of my watch and it was very frustrating so now you
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can just like play Spotify out of it too if you're into that man disable this feature Apple immediately there's
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another uh there's another watch update I got to talk to you guys about real quick oh gosh I wonder what that could be yeah um uh the Apple watch Ultra
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2 is the same but now has a stin black version this was the rumor a year ago or not a year ago at
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wwc it I definitely remember talking about this was a rumor a while ago and it didn't come oh no when the watch yeah
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when the ultra 2 came out a year ago thought it was going to come out black so maybe they held it until it looks so
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good it it does look good so good I I had so many people message me just be like how amped is Marquez right now I'm like I'm not there but I know he's like sweating in his SE yeah when they
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announced it it was one of those things remember last time when they like quoted me on stage and like everyone like looked at me I feel like the same thing
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happened when they announced the black Watch 2 everyone just went the spotlight just hits you in the crowd and everybody
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don't you yeah CRA so it is a coating it is a coating on the it's a coating over the top of the titanium they say that it is very scratch resistant this is what they
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said in the keynote it's a it's a watch like it's going to get nicked I don't know how
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deep you have to Nick to get to the light color underneath mine has gotten nicked quite a bit and it's you know it's raw titanium colored so it doesn't look crazy but I wonder when I get this
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black watch cuz I'm going to uh how long it'll take to Nick it and see the the light color underneath we'll see yeah
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but it's otherwise literally the same watch so yeah but some new bands also that matched with it that look really I
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don't like the titanium one or whatever it is the like steel link one but that new Trail Loop looks so
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good getting like a millanes loop I don't know if really yeah how I try to be a millanes loop guy the wait was it a mill I thought it wasn't a loop cuz it has that huge huge buckle on the bottom
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there's that new one too yeah okay titanium millanes Loop is the new one I'm curious about trying that I don't know the the new Trail band The like black Trail band looks so good yes I
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obviously like Trail bands I have a knockoff one on my Garmin yeah which one do I have that'sa Trail band as well but
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like a slightly oh that's Apple's Trail band yeah that's actually Apple's Trail the real tra dir the green Alpine band
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looks awesome I just don't think it looks awesome on the black watch I think that will look nicer on the regular yeah
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well that's the most exciting thing we've talked about so far by a lot um but then there's new airpods as well
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yeah so air okay airpods have a couple different versions actually airpods Baseline airpods 4 airpods Pro and then
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airpods Max some of these are real upgrades some of these are fake upgrades yeah airpods
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4 real upgrade the the base like uh hard tip airpods there's actually two versions now and this was kind of confusing in the moment with the keynote but I think I've figured it all out
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which is basically there's a 129 version and a 179 version for 129 you get the new airpods 4 it's a new shape new
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driver new airpods regular case USBC great they said this case is actually slightly smaller oh great yeah so that's 129 yeah but for 179 you can get airpods
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4 with active noise cancellation and I got to try these they they do havec and transparency mode and adapter whatever they're calling that adaptive audio and that will also be a wireless
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charging case with USBC and a speaker in the case so if you want to find it with fine my it can make noises it's funny
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cuz it's just called airpods 4 with ANC but they also have wireless charging and
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a speaker and it's like that's a lot more than just ANC so it's kind of weird marketing apple pencil naming all over
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again do you do you think they just took an airpod Pro and to put the in internals in the airpod SN the silic I was told that thec is about the quality
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of the airpods pro first generation I that's what Apple I would kind of disagree and this is only from my very limited uh I mean they're different designs so they're going to have
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different quality that's really where the the difference comes from for me is the hard tip has never fit in my ear
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very well and the soft tip with the seal has always done way better so I tried a
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and C with the new airpods 4 with for like 2 minutes and I could immediately tell like some sound was still leaking
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in so it is doing a job of canceling some of the outside sound but it is still like leaking some sound in versus
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the soft tip for me I'll be interested to hear cuz I agree like those the hard don't fit in my ear at all but every
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time we mention that we get a lot of comments of like I hate the silicone tips I only like the regular air poods
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so maybe that just fits better in their ears and if they have a good seal Maybe do really well if you're one of those
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people in the next month or two let us know if you think that's better yeah I'm just really curious if the extra $50 is
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worth it for thec because like you said there's no proper se but it's not just ANC you're getting transparency mode you're getting a wireless charging case
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which in my opinion is worth the $50 on its own I think transparency mode is worth it and the speaker I think I
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honestly think the speaker is one of the best part makes it way easier to find a speaker into case yeah mhm just the
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thing that lets you P bring with fine my if you ever miss it do you ever if you lose that stuff then I feel like that's
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not that big of using it does not make it wor what are you talking about I just think it's nice to have if my speaker
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didn't make no if my airpods didn't make noise I don't think I would even notice 50 bucks is cheaper than having to Reby
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another pair when you lose just don't lose them the with the with the uh with the with the hot and cold with Precision
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the precis yeah that one yeah but you have to be like close enough for that to work I agree but to me that's just
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sprinkles on top of the main thing that is the differentiator which is the active noise cancelling and if that's not that much of a difference I honestly
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think wireless charging is the best part about I think wireless charging hot wireless charging is the most overrated
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feature in technology completely disagree disagree these are all two types of there's you either love wireless charging or couldn't care less about
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wireless charging you either love ANC or couldn't care less about ANC and you either fit hard tips in your ears
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hard tip there are people right now simultaneously listening to this podcast that are like David is a freaking idiot and the other people are like Adam is a
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freaking idiot literally I've moved phones that have wireless charging and don't have wireless charging and it
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doesn't matter it matters it doesn't matter we're going to get the 60z iPhone later on the same note so just sit on
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that for a little longer before I just want to say if what why is there an H2 chip in the lower ones if there's no a
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andc I believe that is just way it represents sound and uses the new drivers and connects the connection is more St well and then my followup question that I know none of us can
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answer is is the mic array for ANC present in the lower tier ones too like have they like I guess I'm curious I think so not to be a little little nudnik over here I think so I think the
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but that means it's a software feature they kind of just turned it off yeah yep yeah they're the same bud with better software and a better case lame that's
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fair I mean previously they sold the wireless charging case for I think $20 more cuz they had the airpods 3 without wireless charging and then with wireless charging and it was 20 bucks more for
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the case so they're basically charging $20 for the case $30 for wireless charging the graphic on apple.com shows
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the H2 chip and says clearer calls with voice isolation and a new hands freeway interact with Siri that's a Gooding of
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background has an accelerometer to a oh yeah when we get these we got to test the new and the no I was going to
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say the new like phone call noise reduction yeah back let's make a ton of noise and hop on the phone although I do think every single phone event and headphone event they always say that
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they like made the clear absolutely for sure that is true this is true we we'll see we'll find out and I thought it was
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funny too cuz they were like we tested a bazillion different head and ear shapes
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to make sure that it was even but they say that every year I'm like if you if you took like 50,000 samples of ear
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shapes why are you changing it constantly I have a perfect example of why that doesn't matter at all and is
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all marketing do you remember when we went to the Microsoft uh we just went for like a
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couple different things it was when they first showed us like the folding surface and there's supposed to be a tablet but do you remember the surface buds yeah
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the terrible terrible terrible headphones they brought us into this room with this huge table of different
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like shapes and sizes of ears they tested it on all these different shapes and sizes so it fits perfectly and it
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was the dumbest pair of headphones I've ever seen for those of you who don't remember it was like truly wireless earbuds with this
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huge circle on the outside so you could like swipe your PowerPoint presentation with it and they just like fell out of
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your ears and they were awful I I wish I was joking so yeah that was like one of the first things I told us is we made
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these fit perfect for everyone also those are like the most uncomfortable headphones because the plastic parts
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that go in your ear were like really stiff and it like pressed it like cut into your ear those were awful there's
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something so funny about like apple you know puts out their headphones they like oh we can integrate with this with the ecosystem like we'll plug it into find
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my we'll plug it into this blah blah Microsoft's like what what do we have an art ecosystem we can come up power power
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point teams teams teams kids love power like when pen P was like now that the surface pen works on the Surface Pro I can hike up a mountain and add in in the
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Excel spreadsheet my altitude by drawing it in Excel cells that I that was a real thing that
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happened bring us to bring us back on topic you want to know another crazy crazy ecosystem feature back here for
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one week and you're already I know what you're about to say let so into it you can charge the new airpods with wireless charging with an Apple Watch charger you can charge all the airpods with wireless
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charging with an Apple Watch charger what it's just ecosystem wait really yes we've had this conversation like five times I put my
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airpods on my Apple watch charger regularly Marquez was surprised at this when I told him last time my airpods are
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currently charging on my Apple watch charger can I charge my phone on my Apple watch charger no just airpods just
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airpods specifically what yeah yeah it is Handy fun fact so yeah airpods 4 they're coming out they're also the same prices 129 179 and then airpods Pro more
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or less got a software update like physically they're basically the same they have H2 but but the thing is they
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have many more Health features now so it can it's now a clinical grade hearing aid which is actually I think pretty
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sick I think it's a big deal I think it's pretty awesome um and it has a whole bunch of hearing protection features and hearing Health features to
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help you Monitor and reduce loud noise exposure and you can wear them during concerts like we were talking about before and it'll reduce the sounds but
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still have the clarity higher sample rates all that sounds great but yeah essentially a software update for airpods 2o so or airpods Pro too the
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hearing test enter it also so you're test boy then you will start using them hearing test that's the kind
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of stuff where not a lot of people will go out and take that test but if it's just part of something you own already
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and it's there how many people are bored on an airplane or like bus or something and they're like oh I have this on my
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phone let me from what I understand too that's how you enable the hearing aid mode is that you have to take the hearing test and then it specifically
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knows what frequencies you're not able to here and then it amplifies those frequencies I can't wait till it gives
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me not audio person I'm looking at to make sure that yeah yeah I think it's also I think it's a really cool feature
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because uh over the years like proper medical hearing aids have actually been sort of getting closer and closer and closer to airpods like already modern
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hearing aids you can like Bluetooth to and send your devices to them and like I think some of them a lot of them have
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like different mod loads of noise cancelling depending on your environment so it seemed like only a matter of time
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can I tell a funny story about airpods and hearing loss I I'll keep it really quick I promise um before I worked here
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one of my many my many jobs was I did lights at nightclubs um so I was in nightclubs for hours and hours and hours and it's deafening and when you're doing lights like anyone who's ever worked you
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know with earplugs knows that like a lot of earplugs until you get really expensive ones really make music like
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not fun to listen to like even though it's like it won't hurt your ears um and I discovered pretty early on like
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airpods Pro excellent excellent excellent excellent earplugs like lowers the volume and keeps it nice and even super awesome except any DJ you work with when he
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looks over and sees you at the lighting desk with airpods in he's like are you listening to podcast right now like are
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you not like dude can you do your job please and you have to be like no no no no no no it's pull out your phone be
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like nothing playing like yeah yeah yeah okay this is a this is very good for a lot of people obviously because hearing aids are super expensive and it's like really nice that people are going to be able to start using these uh it's also
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very good marketing for Apple because now people are going to just be walking around with airpods in their ears all
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the time right which they already kind of were doing but now they're going to be doing it constantly especially if
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they have hearing loss so they're like do you have hearing loss and didn't know it wear these all the time and you're
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going to be able to hear better and then it locks you into the ecosystem like if you switch to Android for you can't hear
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no for real this is an ecosystem play wait can you not use them as oh you never p a phone you can't change I don't
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think you can change modes if you're using them with an Android device not even like with the stem though with the
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stem you can yeah I could change them now but I'm not sure about the hearing aid part do thear yes that's an e it's
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an ecosystem lock in thing it's apple is this apple is the best at this they're so good at like this is really really really good but also now you can't leave our ecosystem like you're stuck part of
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me is like this is a good feature like wellplayed apple you deserve this one but also wow I know it's a bad look if
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you don't like offer even if they just made like an Android app to just do the hearing test and control the hearing aid
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like medical things which I don't think they'll do it's a good and a bad look at
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the I think if you asked Apple this is a total guess but I bet they would say it has something to do with the H2 chip probably probably here's the benefit of
00:27:59
all that though and I I saw a couple people on Twitter tweeting about this just like people follow what Apple does this
00:28:07
will probably be in Samsung Buds and pixel Buds and even just other earbuds I would guess within the next two years yeah that's a good point the Samsung and Google buds will AI generate sounds that
00:28:19
aren't actually even there for you I got them so yeah very good marketing on Apple's part just going to say I feel like the reason it also might not come
00:28:26
to Android phones is because I believe they mentioned that all of the data is stored to the health app on App
00:28:33
they did and it's probably some data privac onclave or whatever I think the other reason is um Apple wants to make a
00:28:40
ton of money next airs Max airpods Max biggest update of the Year let's talk about airpods Max for a second and uh zoom in on my face for this um Apple airpods Max Team
00:28:55
specifically what have you been doing for the past 4 years I just wanted I I'm curious if you have an account maybe leave a comment below and let me know were you in a coma or you really tired
00:29:06
just because I just looked at your website and I saw the keynote and I just wanted to double check and make sure this is true the only thing that you
00:29:13
changed from all the from all the feedback that you heard for the past four years four years from when airpods
00:29:21
Max came out cuz you saw the reviews right you saw how much we like the sound but you saw how much we hated the purse case you saw how much we how heavy they
00:29:29
are you saw how much we wanted it to have an onoff button right and I like that you can like take the ear cups off
00:29:35
with a magnet and the design is pretty cool but that mesh was not great right so that you know we know there are
00:29:40
things that are bad about airpods Max so I'm curious in the last four years I have it written down here all you
00:29:46
did all you did was uh add USB type-c and colors now look I appreciate USB type-c as much as anyone that's actually my number one feat feature I wanted on the airpods max so this is the airpods max refresh USB type-c but then
00:30:03
you didn't do just checking my notes Here anything else didn't do anything else there is an
00:30:11
H2 chip in the $129 for and there is an H1 chip in the $44 $549 $549 airpod so so 2024 refresh same
00:30:27
price same H1 chip same drivers same sound same lack of a power button same mesh same stupid purse case what have you been doing this whole time I'm just
00:30:38
curious if you could leave a comment below that would be amazing orange is hard it takes a long time nothing even
00:30:44
rhymes with it porage of course I'm glad we don't do performance reviews here cuz like I felt like I was getting in trouble there I'm just what Andrew what have you been
00:30:56
dopod Max team right like it's Apple they have they have people whose job it is to work on airpods Max right that's
00:31:04
not crazy Kudos those people are getting paid and they made orange I will say their Target demographic for these generally is just people who just want to look cool oh look I I fully think
00:31:16
that you're right the Target demographic doesn't care and this is true about a lot of things that we talk about on this
00:31:21
show and like complain about in general is like actually most people probably won't care why do you even need an H2
00:31:27
chip why whatever it's fine the headphones are fine but like it's the principle in the yeah it's the principle
00:31:32
and in the world of uh other products exist like if you if you really check like Google w Google noise cancelling headphones and just look at what's available to you for hundreds of dollars
00:31:44
less yeah and then tell me this is a good idea to buy this product it just doesn't fit I do I see so many people in
00:31:50
Brooklyn running with airpods Max and they're the heaviest they're so they're so heavy and they're so expensive and you're going to like get the mesh all sweaty and gross and it's crazy like
00:32:02
Sony's Mark 3s marvs or mark fivs would be better they'd be lighter they'd connect to your iPhone so the reason
00:32:08
that I said in the video I probably am going to end up getting the airpods max is because I specifically fly with these
00:32:14
headphones yeah and when I fly with these headphones I start off on walking onto the plane with it connected to my
00:32:20
phone either listening to music or a podcast or whatever I'm doing and then when I'm on the plane I switch them back
00:32:25
and forth between my laptop and my phone cuz I'm doing things on my laptop and back to my phone and the H2 the H
00:32:32
whatever chip like the airpods switch easily and it's great and that's awesome about them and they have great noise cancellation but I just hate that
00:32:38
they're lightning so I probably am still going to fly with them but like I said I'm going to try to become an airpods Pro person because earbuds with the Silicon tips they work for me I think
00:32:51
the noise cancellation is pretty good I think the sound quality is pretty good and I think they will still deter people from trying to talk to me so I'm going
00:32:57
to try yeah I'm going to try do you think we're getting a new pair of airpods Max at all this year no wait
00:33:03
this year this year September yeah do you think there's another event somewhere for iPads or anything and they
00:33:09
new no I think for the next four years they're going to sell this I don't about four maybe two look if you asked me before last event if all they would change is USBC and nothing else that's
00:33:22
exactly what I would have said no way they don't adjust anything my bet is in 2 years because of all the negative
00:33:28
feedback they're getting they will change it two years years I think I agree with David sooner than four years we'll see something whether that's a
00:33:36
good they can't do it too soon because they just released these but they can't wait another four years otherwise
00:33:41
they'll be eight-year-old headphones which is insane we'll be on Dyson 4S by then for real yeah would you rather have
00:33:49
these or the Dyson headphones D really yeah a th% well as a non iPhone user yeah the Dyson are even heavier than airpods Max they look sick the padding is so much better though the padding is
00:34:01
pretty good the battery life is double I like those Sonos yeah the battery life is crazy yeah they're expensive and
00:34:07
they're still $100 less than the airpods and is so good see they all have one critical flaw
00:34:13
and the Sonos is the app and also like the the cups are a little shallow I like how they fit the app is the least of my
00:34:20
worries once it's connected and going I'm pretty happy totally yeah well we got a lot more to talk about we got to get to the phones of of course so we should take a quick break and get to those but before we do it's been a
00:34:32
minute since I've done this uh let's do trivia two weeks go by and is like it's been 5,000 years when you were gone David and I just did not know how to like end segments or episodes or like
00:34:47
okay well that's it so um I guess if you want to like And subscribe I guess I think at one point we just committed to
00:34:52
we probably will be stuck in the studio so you come back and end it for us it's muscle memory you guys got to develop
00:34:57
like like And subscribe thing yeah yeah guys yesterday there was an Apple event no way and you know what that means today days it was two days ago
00:35:09
what Bro you've been here the whole time oh my God it was two days ago holy crap all right well on that note were you
00:35:16
paying attention we're back Ellis was and he doesn't even know what day it was I remember yeah first question what day
00:35:22
was it yeah first question where am I who are I cool apple does not now and has never made a single device with a 3D display and no Vision Pro doesn't count
00:35:37
with a 3D display okay however during in my question I wrote yesterday's event too I totally am like out during Monday's event mon Apple used the term
00:35:51
3D twice in their presentation What two products they used the term 3D while presenting and I don't need how they used it I don't need the I just need to know just had to say 3D I feel like
00:36:06
product they did not they did not say 3D touch I know but I feel like that should be considered a 3D display what because
00:36:12
it was the display that you pressed into I think he meant like 3D like Vis I know
00:36:18
but it was called David you're now two points behind my dang well there's only so many
00:36:24
products I talked about so I feel like we can really think this one through but point for each product yeah two two
00:36:29
points trying to trying to even the idea yeah two one two points total one per product I love that okay well we'll
00:36:35
think about that as will everyone else listening and the answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right
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00:37:57
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00:38:09
the specs here my first actual thoughts about what's happening with the state of the iPhone that's your short version but
00:38:17
there's a whole lot to dig into just because there's a lot happening that we didn't get to with that video um but
00:38:24
I'll just lay out the basic specs first and then we can just sort of jump into each phone wait before you get into that
00:38:30
yeah just the regular iPhone 16 looks different and I think looks great with the new camera bump deal yeah Aesthetics
00:38:37
aesthetically before we dive into the nitty-gritty bringing it back to that like stacked small camera bump like the
00:38:43
iPhone 10 I think looks so much better than when it was the Stacked camera bump and a big square and then turned into
00:38:49
diagonal just wasted space I think yeah I don't think you're alone I think a lot of people like the new colors and the
00:38:54
new looks of the Baseline iPhones and then the pro phones are like faded like desert and titanium colors again which
00:39:01
is not new but that's that's the color so right off the bat bright vibrant colors with the 16 the 16 and 16 plus
00:39:08
are the same price and the same sizes as last year but the main differences now are slightly better cameras slightly
00:39:15
better chip it's the a18 should be faster better Neal engine and uh it has an action button now and a camera control button we got two new buttons this year in one in the B iPhone that's
00:39:28
crazy fascinating because not that long ago we were wondering if they were going to get rid of everything on the outside
00:39:34
remember they got rid of the headphone jack and everyone went what about the button speakers and everything and now
00:39:39
we have more buttons the pros 16 pro and pro Max also get the app camera control
00:39:47
button yeah but they also get larger displays with thinner bezels so 6.3 and 6.9 inch screens nice um that is a huge
00:39:58
and uh they also get even more camera updates uh new Ultra wide mostly a 48 megap Ultra wide and both sizes now have the 5x telephoto instead of just the big phone having a 5x telephoto and the
00:40:10
fusion camera yeah they're calling it a fusion camera now which okay not sure exactly what that means but we get there yeah okay and that's kind of it with the
00:40:22
pros e yeah oh A8 Pro is the is the chip which by the way I looked into it and it
00:40:28
looks like it has one more GPU core now it's Pro Tada we Trace Rays baby Trace those Rays yeah so that's that's basically what's happening uh I
00:40:40
think easily the most fascinating part is the camera control button on all these phones there are so many
00:40:46
interesting things about this button so I guess let's just explain what it is and then we can give our thoughts on
00:40:51
right okay so yeah on the bottom right hand corner of the phone underneath the power button there's a new button on the
00:40:57
phones it is a button yeah and it is flushed with the side of the phone and when you press it it opens the camera and then from there it is a touch
00:41:08
sensitive pressure sensitive capacitive surface that can scroll and half press to continue doing things with the camera it can dive into the camera app settings it can change camera settings it can
00:41:22
take photos and it's supposed to get an update at some point to give it a two-stage half press to focus and then
00:41:28
full press to take the photo so it's just for camera which by the way is coming soon what is that what why is
00:41:35
that coming soon I don't know it seems like apple has a rule where they're like guys every time we release an iPhone we have to have one camera feature that
00:41:41
doesn't launch right away half pressed to focus so that's the thing that's taking longer to program that doesn't go
00:41:46
in but still the like scrolling and stuff the scrolling is already there works and from the phone from the start
00:41:53
yeah okay sweet yeah so just your half pressed to focus is not coming until later okay yeah cool um but that that
00:42:00
will also be able to be plugged into or tapped into by third part app developers who also make apps that use the camera
00:42:07
so this is again just camera control but if you make Snapchat if you make halide if you make is it Haled halide halide if
00:42:13
you make halide if you make Instagram if you make Final Cut camera if you're Apple any of these apps that use the
00:42:19
camera they can also take advantage of that scrolling surface to do camera stuff which is cool it's cool yeah um
00:42:25
wait did you get to try it I got to try it is there feedback haptic feedback verus scroll wheel full click does that
00:42:31
feel good yeah it's it's a very nice click it's in the half click you can definitely tell as a half as well really
00:42:37
and when you scroll this you can feel the scrolling the problem that I felt was that just like the rabbit R1 when it
00:42:43
launched when the the acceleration of the volume knob was like not high enough and you had to like really move it uh it
00:42:50
felt the same way for me where like the acceleration wasn't quite high enough because you kind of had to well at least
00:42:56
when I was using it maybe maybe I don't have good enough fingerprints or something but when I was swiping my
00:43:01
finger it kind of felt like I had to do like two full swipes in order to like do a full Zoom okay yeah it it didn't move
00:43:09
quite as much as I wanted it to I wanted it to be slightly more sensitive I found actually the opposite interestingly I
00:43:15
found that because it has this like physics scrolling and you can swipe and it keeps going after you let go which
00:43:21
the rabbit didn't do I would scroll too far accidentally sometimes I feel like it shouldn't have that I feel like it
00:43:26
should be like you have to get used to it you definitely have to get used to it I was going to say I would rather be
00:43:31
ratcheted low sense like like what you're saying because like it's so much more annoying if you're trying to like
00:43:37
zoom in or something you go too far then you try and come back and you too far I'd rather do a couple I don't think it should like fly I think it should like
00:43:44
be ratcheted but just like be more sensitive to my micro swipes yeah interesting I wonder if it'll be
00:43:50
adjustable eventually that obviously is the best thing they could do for it yeah but it as of right now it's like you can
00:43:57
double tap in and it'll let you change the f-stop in portrait mode or let you change the tone or the zoom amount or
00:44:04
which lens you're shooting with or whatever just by scrolling around in the camera there was a lot of misinformation
00:44:09
about the button a lot of people were saying this is a just a solid state button just like the MacBook Pro trackpad and it doesn't actually click in and you just feel like it's clicking in it is a real button but it also has
00:44:22
the taptic engine in it to help it feel like that click is more than it is and also to allow for the ratcheting
00:44:30
like swiping gesture enhances the click it enhances the click it allows for like
00:44:35
the the two-stage click to feel more like solid um yeah so it has both but it is a physical one which is actually quite surprising because again like you were saying about getting rid of all the
00:44:45
buttons eventually we also expected Apple to eventually have buttons but just have them be solid state yeah so
00:44:53
yeah it's interesting that they're keeping physical buttons so I have a lot of interesting thoughts about this thing in particular thought number one I would
00:45:04
have not been shocked at all if this was only on the pro phones yeah this feels like a thing that they would go this is
00:45:10
really complicated this is just a camera feature this is like allowing you to mess with the settings in the camera and dial things in this so feels like a pro
00:45:17
only phone feature and it would be a reason to buy the pros exact every reason to separate them and when they're
00:45:23
on all of the phones I was happy but I was very surprised by that that's number one yeah thought number two is Apple
00:45:30
also introduced cases that they talked about and they had a moment where they had to explain that there's actually
00:45:36
like a piece of glass or like ceramic in the case that extends the yeah Sapphire
00:45:41
that extends that out so that it's still flush but you can still feel the swiping
00:45:47
and the haptics IT transfers the capacitance as well through the glass was fascinating they do that with
00:45:54
their own first party cases it will be up to other third party case manufacturers of how they want to handle
00:45:59
this button will they try that too or will they just do a deep cutout like I'm going to ask debrand for sure I want to
00:46:04
talk to case manufacturers I was talking to Michael Fischer at the event he was like yeah we're just going to do a cutout on the clicks case and maybe like
00:46:11
a swoop down and a swoop up for it so you can like you can still touch the actual Sapphire of the phone but it's not like a trans it seems like that's what most case manufacturers are doing cuz a lot of them have already showed
00:46:22
off their cases and they just have a huge divot in the side of the phone but like an otter box case is going to have
00:46:29
to have a huge cutout you know yeah I thought that that was another really interesting thing to pay attention to
00:46:34
with this mhm and and then third is just what else will it do like what will third party manufacturers or third party
00:46:40
app makers do with this camera button cuz if you don't make an app with a camera you there's nothing you can do
00:46:46
with it yeah the halight app examples were really cool cuz there was a bunch of different modes that you could put on it there was one where you would swipe
00:46:52
and it would like show different grid lines so you could have like you could change the amount of grid lines that you'd had there was another one that
00:46:59
showed basically uh I don't remember what the technical term for this is but when you it shows all of the different
00:47:05
lens um like it shows the wide angle but then it will show boxes inside of that to show what it would be if you switch to that lens there's a name for that and I cannot there's another thing they did
00:47:17
and I think it was just in the regular one but couldn't you swipe grid lines that would show how it would show on different like social media sites oh it
00:47:24
be cropped in like one by one for had that okay yeah maybe that yeah so you could do like one by one or 16 by9
00:47:31
and it would show all these different like formats so that you could when you're filming you know okay I can film
00:47:37
in horizontal mode and then I can just crop later and it will still fit in the 1ex one that's cool or the 9 by6 aspect
00:47:43
ratio yeah my last thought is that Apple at no point ever called this a button they always called it camera control
00:47:50
they never called it a button and it's just it's just been sitting in the back of my head like why do they refuse to
00:47:55
call it a button do they really not want it to be a button do they want it to someday just be like a a solid state thing and not be a button airpods
00:48:02
Pro I think it's the same thing yeah I think they're just trying to Brand things and just make them definitively
00:48:08
Apple but they could call it a camera button yeah but they call it airpods pro as opposed to what airpod Pros well
00:48:16
I just mean they're they're refusing to use the word button here that's why I'm yeah I'm like okay you could call it the
00:48:23
camera control button you could call it the camera button yeah they're calling camera control camera control does feel
00:48:28
more like a software feature than a hardware age it felt like they were talking about the software and it happened to have a hardware piece
00:48:35
controlling it yeah and I can imagine someday in the future they get rid of the physical click and it's just a trackpad cameras
00:48:42
Control Pro but go ahead Andrew what do you well actually now that I think about it so my
00:48:48
one thought was it stinks that this is only available for camera things because that could be an awesome button to map
00:48:55
different apps things too like maybe scrolling on a page without having to put your hand on it now you have it
00:49:00
vertical right where your thumb is the pixel I think it was the pixel that had the back mounted fingerprint reader and you could swipe down on the fingerprint
00:49:07
reader to move down the page that was awesome that was maybe they're not calling it a button because they're then you're expecting to be able to do things
00:49:13
outside of the camera with it maybe yeah don't to be fair reachability wise it is
00:49:19
kind of a little out of the way yeah like you have to it's kind of splitting the difference between like where it would normally be on a horizontal phone
00:49:25
and also being able to true I think it's a good place they specifically said that they put it there because they wanted it
00:49:31
to be in a good place for horizontal shots and or horizontal shots and vertical shots yeah that was my second
00:49:36
point the first time they showed it off they were like don't move your hand out of the way to take this photo and it was a portrait photo like standing up and I
00:49:43
was like that feels like everyone is expecting that to be landscape and to be like a normal camera and the first one
00:49:50
they showed was just kind of like awkwardly holding it where your thumb would just be like one in to the left on
00:49:55
the software one but it is cool that when you use that it kind of wipes away the UI of the camera in general so you
00:50:01
can see more and all you have to do is use that really cool swipe down like little Notch now we have another notch
00:50:08
in iPhones also which is kind of awesome yeah you know what I like that Apple has been doing with the the camera stuff
00:50:13
every year is like yes they're doing the like oh yeah our lenses are better like everything is better but they've been
00:50:18
modifying the software over and over again to try to make it a better experience as a replacement or a
00:50:24
secondary camera like prores log like that kind of stuff we don't really get that kind of stuff in Android phones
00:50:29
that often and it's nice that they're like okay now we have a physical button so that you can attach it to this and
00:50:35
then add the grid lines and do all this stuff and just try to make it like a bcam you're not using Asus
00:50:42
log I think that kind of wraps into my last Point really well roog Rock log oh my God sorry I no no no no that
00:50:50
was too good to um but apple is not the first person to add a camera button onto
00:50:56
a phone but this is proof again that they're never the first but when they do when they add something they generally
00:51:01
do a really good job cuz they like obviously thought super deep into this by having different types of pressing
00:51:07
scrolling interacting with the UI super super well so like they did a really good job with adding something so small
00:51:14
that's been done multiple times before had the had the camera shutter as well does this now mean that Apple has the
00:51:21
most complicated camera no no what do you think is the most complicated camera Sony so
00:51:29
still The Experience yeah they have a bunch of apps and everything about the app just looks exactly like a alpha an
00:51:37
alpha camera yeah yeah and now you can't say we never talk about xeria phones but yeah the the pro really is still mostly just a better camera yeah
00:51:51
and there are I guess a couple other things yeah because like I I can't buy an $800 60 HZ phone I can't do it I just there's something in my brain that just like sees the chop and I can't use
00:52:03
a 60 HZ phone anymore yeah but there are a ton of people who literally don't care
00:52:08
I was reading a Reddit thread as I got on the plane that like made me really mad and is probably why I didn't get too much sleep which is which is there are
00:52:16
people who will use a phone for a while and then they'll try 120 Herz phone and go this scrolling is too smooth and they
00:52:22
want to go back to that's real real people that's real I was reading threat about like 60 HZ iPhone like people were
00:52:28
like yeah I gave it to my cousin he was like ew it's too smooth oh come on why don't you shoot 60 FPS that's all
00:52:35
weird so it's mainly people are getting the pro for the camera and there are things like proo 4K 120 hertz or 4K 120 FPS video that's sick which by the way
00:52:48
is enabled by the fusion camera yep and the A8 Pro probably uh and it's things like a large
00:52:57
brighter display great it's the same actually brightness oh so just bigger you can get a 6.9 in display that was
00:53:03
this is the thing though like they both go down to one nit now they both go up to 2,000 nits it's the exact same
00:53:10
display except for the promotion it will in the size with the bezel I guess yeah
00:53:15
and that extra telephoto lens and the GPU core like you're not it's not AE so the pro phones are more expensive
00:53:22
and are titanium but that's really all you're getting I mean I think yeah faster is it faster mag safe no they so
00:53:29
this is an update across the 16 line is that they all now support 25 watt mag safe which okay I think because they
00:53:37
kind of donated the the mag safe thing to ch2 but ch2 Chargers on the iPhones will only charge at 15 watts but now apple is selling new mag safe pucks that you have to buy separately new ones yeah
00:53:50
that charge at 25 watts but you have to use these pucks yeah so okay yeah so that's not just just a pro feature no that's on all of them okay you get the faster USB 3 transfer speeds like you
00:54:01
always have on the pros versus the us when you shoot that 4K 120 FPS video and you have like a 3,000 gigabyte file you
00:54:08
can get it off the phone faster I pitched a studio short idea to Eric of speed running how fast you can use all
00:54:14
of the storage on a baseline iPhone Pro easy you just proes log how how fast can you open the box set it up and just
00:54:21
immediately shoot 4K 120 PR and video yeah that would be really funny yeah so yeah that's you know they're the same prices too it's $7.99 to start the
00:54:33
16 plus 8.99 the pro $999 and the pro Max $199 sneaky update may maybe battery maybe right TBD they said they made the batteries bigger they yeah and they said they have the longest battery life ever
00:54:46
in an iPhone Pro phones they're even bigger apparently than in the than in the regular ones yeah so so we looked
00:54:52
into this a little bit more and you found that on the compare site for Apple they're saying like video playback goes
00:54:57
from 20 to 22 hours yeah so that's from regular to Pro from from 15 16 15 oh yeah 15 to 16 yeah so okay slightly better yeah uh I just I want to use it
00:55:11
and figure out if I can tell the difference between uh this old phone and the new phone battery wise but I'm never
00:55:17
going to be mad at extra battery I think that's great yeah I mean I I like that they get down to one knit now because
00:55:22
I've complained before about you know laying in bed and being like h yeah you know on the
00:55:28
plane dark yeah um so I guess last but not least is just a brief rant which is that this whole event was called like it's glow time referring to Siri and the
00:55:40
new glow animation and the new Apple intelligence stuff and they did not spend a short amount of time talking
00:55:46
about like rehashing all this stuff hey guess what writing tools hey guess what Jen Moi hey guess what image playground
00:55:53
not a single one of these features launches with the phone yeah and when they opened the iPhone or when they
00:55:59
opened up about Apple intelligence the first time they called it the heart of the iPhone 16 they Tim Cook to start the
00:56:06
keynote talked about how these were the first iPhones built from the ground up to be apple intelligence I think he said
00:56:12
with with AI and machine learning he said Ai and machine learning in the first one minute of him talking yeah
00:56:19
artificial intelligence not even Apple intelligence artificial intelligence and to to their credit they might be right
00:56:25
like these phones have fast neural engines they have I'm sure lots of memory and will be really good at this
00:56:31
but they don't launch with it they're not ready yet and by the time they do launch they will be in beta and it's
00:56:37
still like kind of slowly rolling out and this is what I talked about in The Impressions video is okay I've literally reviewed the rabbit I reviewed the
00:56:48
Humane pin like I have to talk about the products as they exist when I review them and when I review the iPhone 6 16
00:56:56
it will not have any of these features and I have to review it without any of these features yeah how do we also
00:57:05
review all of the features that they're promising if they're not there at lunch do a later video you should just do like
00:57:10
an app intelligence video later on do your section card like we've been doing and it just says like apple intelligence
00:57:16
and then it goes to the next it's just like the top down set with nothing in it and a cricket chirping and then clicks
00:57:21
out of it to I might have to do that cuz that that is I'm looking forward to a lot of them and I've been using them in
00:57:26
the iOS 18.1 developer beta that's out now yeah um there is no iOS 18.1 developer beta for the iPhone 16 yet it's cool so yeah
00:57:38
look it's it's the a iPhone it's glow time it's Apple intelligence everywhere heart shipping without a heart it's not
00:57:44
going to it's not going to be on the phone when it comes out just so you know yeah even the the advanced like search
00:57:50
for your photos better like that's not even that's not there either yeah anything in the Apple intelligence
00:57:55
umbrella so it's crazy yeah it's crazy it's crazy town even I don't know it's like
00:58:03
population like what October is when the 18.1 public beta comes out it's not even
00:58:10
when 18.1 so when is 18.1 even coming out it could not even come out this year much later that would be so wild if it didn't come out this if you bought an iPhone for this much money and didn't
00:58:22
get the heart of it yeah for four months yeah I feel like this isn't the last time we're going to be having this
00:58:28
problem that's why I agree with that and which is why I feel like there has to be
00:58:34
an adjustment to the golden rule that I've said so many times because the Golden Rule as I've said it is to never
00:58:42
buy a product based on the promise of future software updates and that's why we talk about cars and phones and and anything that has some beta vaporware
00:58:53
promise that never comes out we can always be like told you so like you should buy the thing that you like now
00:58:58
and use it expecting it to be that way forever and any software updates are a bonus however with all of these AI
00:59:04
features constantly being slowly rolled out and not being ready to ship getting announced but not coming out till later
00:59:11
it feels like there needs to be some dimension of do we trust the company that this comes from and How likely is
00:59:18
this software update to actually come out cuz there are there are levels to this there's Tesla autopilot levels if
00:59:24
will this ever come out pixel drops 's yeah pixel feature drops there's you know Apple intelligence which we expect to slowly roll out over the next couple months and years and it's just a
00:59:35
question of How likely is this update to actually happen I think you can say what
00:59:41
the company says they will do but also just be extremely clear that it's not there yet and that maybe at some point it will be there but that can't really
00:59:52
affect your review cuz this is like the most this is the biggest Del we've ever I have personally ever seen in a phone
00:59:58
where it's like this is the glow time event this is the Apple intelligence phone and the reason apple is selling
01:00:04
you to buy this phone is this is the best one for Apple intelligence this one will have all the stuff we're basically
01:00:09
Rie control yeah when you buy it it literally does none of that yeah I can't ignore that but I there's going to be some eventual but we can't even we can't
01:00:22
even like 18.1 on the 15s doesn't even have like Emoji or probably the most important part of Apple intelligence which is the ability for Siri to reach into Apps and do actions for you the
01:00:33
whole thing that rabbit said it was going to do and never released at all because it doesn't exist right Apple so
01:00:38
far is also vaporware so I would really like to see this actually come out but we can't even freaking play with it yet
01:00:44
but there is a part of my brain that's like I think I can treat apple and rabbit differently because I have
01:00:49
different levels of trust for them to eventually ship the thing but that's that's totally
01:00:54
subjective I think saying what they say they will do but also be like but we can't test it is could you like I would always say could you literally name the
01:01:07
iPhone 16 review part one now and say like and I have to do a part two later because half of the stuff but then what
01:01:13
happens when Google does this next year or Asus I still think the blanket statement
01:01:19
of do not purchase something based so I think the difference is what you're saying is don't purchase something based
01:01:25
on F future promises because I still don't think you should do that yeah CU that future promise might not come out
01:01:31
and phone phone lifespans are much shorter than a car lifespan when Tesla was uh scamming you you had like you're
01:01:38
like well I'm going to keep my my car for a bit longer maybe it'll come out it was sorely disappointing when it didn't for that but like if you're now talking four months and you upgrade your phone
01:01:50
even every two years 20 what is that 20% of your phone's life 10% of your phone's
01:01:55
life doesn't come with the thing you bought it for yeah if you're buying it because of that feature that's not out yet I don't think you should buyit we
01:02:02
still never seen how the Siri reaching into apps or the Gen Emoji even works we've seen just screenshots of like you didn't see Cowboy frog what are you talking about well I saw the existence
01:02:12
of cowboy frog but I did not see the Genesis of cowboy frog and that is what I'm interested the origin story yeah
01:02:18
it's like the it's like the slit experiment like if you look at the light it's a wave and other times if you look
01:02:24
at Cowboy frog it it exists but if you don't it's not generated yet deep cut for my physics nerds out there yeah what's that called again double slit experiment what's the
01:02:36
phenomenon called Quantum in no no that's Quantum in that's I literally super position Quantum super position the the double sh Shing photons act as
01:02:48
both particles and waves yeah I guess that's that's what it's called this this double slit experiment quantum mechanics
01:02:53
sure okay quantum mechanics yeah basically it's if you want to answer the question is light like a does it P like
01:03:01
a particle or a wave the answer is literally it depends if you look at it or not yeah sort of so it's the bear in the
01:03:08
woods yeah yeah schrodingers shinger be was guys I think this apple intelligence
01:03:15
thing is genius hot take why right because rabbit AI company AI features came out it's big stinker Humane yeah cuz they didn't come out company big big
01:03:27
come out big stinker Apple's doing it right man they just got to keep picking the can down the road never release this stuff they'll get all the eventually all this AI stuff it'll pass we'll be over
01:03:39
it and then they can just quietly back into the distance yeah put it under the covers we'll all forget about it they
01:03:45
raised so much Capital so much hype I never had to hurt anybody you know you say that Ellis but like that's a real
01:03:50
strategy I me some companies use yeah full self driving that's true yeah where even like I'm trying to think of another good example but like a device will launch and the one like kind
01:04:04
of cool headline maker demo feature will be like shown at the beginning but then
01:04:09
it won't launch with it and then after like a long time it'll quietly get added back into the background de Fus Apple did Fusion cuz deep Fusion is like not that cool like of a headline like I'm
01:04:21
thinking of like a big Tech demo thing well they tried to make it seem cool yeah I don't know I want to think of a better example but literally something
01:04:27
where it's like oh this this would be really cool if it worked and like oh wow this is the one that has it nobody else has it so it goes on sale and people buy
01:04:34
it and they're like this is so cool yeah and even sometimes reviewers will get a beta version so we get to like show it
01:04:41
on camera yeah and then it just won't ship for like forever yeah God I want to go surf software does that a lot with
01:04:49
software Google will like announce something and then they'll just like wait so long to release it that people forget about it and then there'll be
01:04:55
some well that that's never coming out not even generative AI can fix the chain Lane fence man that's that's forever
01:05:02
gone do you know how every well I don't know if every iPhone has done this but you know how like after 6 months they
01:05:08
release a new color to like drum up hype for the iPhone again yeah do you think that's what these AI features are going to be now moving forward they release
01:05:14
the phone and then like H in 6 months you'll get all these cool other AI features that would be like at the Apple
01:05:20
event they announced the purple iPhone and then that didn't come out till spring
01:05:26
yeah imagine them announcing a color at the event and saying it's not going we're still working on it we're still
01:05:31
engineering guys orange is really hard and you can pre-order it right there God yeah that's kind of how it feels sometimes that's how it's going to feel it's like we all take it for granted that software takes time so like the
01:05:43
development of it and like fixing bugs will take time we all just kind of understand that but it kind of just feels like they'll just drop it whenever
01:05:49
they want yeah like we don't know when it's coming out yeah we have no idea when is Gen mooji coming out we don't know I don't know and I'm frustrated cuz
01:05:57
I've been working on a video about gen mooji for like six months I actually think gen mooji looks really cool well
01:06:02
too bad yeah I know it's not coming out for my half an hour video essay in two years when it finally comes out yeah so anyway we should stop ranting we should
01:06:12
we're going to review the phones we we're going to review the phones eventually purpose stay tuned for that
01:06:18
and uh yeah I don't know let us know what you think of these uh are they vaporware are they coming soon should we
01:06:24
have some degree of like how much do we trust the company I'm just curious if you just leave your comments about that I want to read some of those if this
01:06:29
episode gets 10,000 likes Marquez won't even review the iPhone 16 yeah also you none of no none not enough of you guys
01:06:37
liked the previous episode so Marquez came back the podcast is that what happened
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my bad so now go like And subscribe yeah go like And subscribe we're going to take a quick break we got talk about like PS5 Pro some other quick stuff but
01:06:51
before we do take that quick break we got to talk about trivia trivia dude all right question two were
01:07:00
you paying attention thank you Ellis as beat question two speaking of Apple intelligence features that may never ship they had one where instead of asking the person what kind of dog they
01:07:13
had they pointed a camera oh my and took that was the dog kind of do sry that was
01:07:19
the funniest interaction like fake interaction ever it's just this woman walking her dog and a guy comes up and
01:07:24
like doesn't ask what kind of dog it is and just takes the photo of the dog he gets on one knee he
01:07:30
asks the worst part is he goes can I take a picture of your dog and she goes sure and he goes Siri what kind of dog
01:07:38
I'm right here bro second question what kind of dog was it I remember oo I remember that you know this hell yeah did it say I'm not going to tell you why I remember but I I think I
01:07:49
know I got to write this down right now I think it was like a po save it for later I'm stuck between two and I think
01:08:01
they're just similar looking it was a mix right it was a cat we were going to say if it could figure out what kind of
01:08:07
dog Boris is because even the um cat and then it just gas lights you in but app so it'll just immediately write
01:08:18
to your doctor like delusional needs help what kind of dog is this this is a bag of chips
01:08:25
that's what the rabbit would do well anyway we'll think about those answers there will be at the end like usual we'll be right
01:08:33
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01:09:45
some other very big news in the technology sphere this week for some reason everyone decided to drop all the
01:09:50
stuff the week of Apple event which is usually the worst possible thing to do I think it's a red
01:09:57
flag probably you know if you decide to announce your thing the day of the iPhone announcement that's what I said to miles that's what I said to Miles cuz
01:10:08
Canon put out Canon put out a camera they put out we a new camera and I was like oh so it's sh I think red flag or like delusional
01:10:18
confidence yeah very yeah very very high last year okay yeah that's true cuz last
01:10:24
year the Fuji gfx 100 Mark II came out the same day and Fuji asked me like hey you doing anything on September 10th and they asked me that in April and I was like the Apple event is that day
01:10:36
probably and they were like H whatever I was like guys what are you doing even even all the camera reviewers are at the Apple event yeah so they can't be at your event yeah that happened to OnePlus
01:10:48
not that long ago anyway so what happened uh what happened this week uh okay PlayStation 5 Pro for all my Gamers
01:10:54
out there I'm not a gamer really I play gam can't afford this did you actually did you try deadlock I did not yet someone did tough one to get someone did uh tweet at me and asked if I tried it
01:11:05
yet I need to try it still okay anyway uh Sony has been hyping like very low-key the PlayStation 5 for a long period of time through like little intentional leaks that they've been doing the pro the pro sorry PlayStation
01:11:19
5 Pro yeah uh and they finally officially announced it they'd had like an 11 minute technical demo presentation
01:11:26
with the guy that's in charge of the engineering hey hey hey it was 20 minutes but 10 of those minutes were a
01:11:33
countdown nice okay uh it is better than the normal PS5 in a few key ways it has
01:11:40
a bigger GPU with 45% faster rendering and 67% more compute units and 28% faster memory it is also using PlayStation's new spectral super resolution which is like Nvidia dlss
01:11:53
which is an upscaler mhm um and the whole point of it is to try to not make users choose between Fidelity and frame rate this is basically everything that they were talking about during the
01:12:04
technical presentation they were like you have the option of doing higher Fidelity but then the frame rate is like 30 FPS or lower or you can do higher
01:12:14
frame rate but lower resolution now the very funny thing about this uh presentation was they showed a bunch of games on PS5 versus PS5 Pro mhm and they
01:12:26
were like wow look at the graphical difference and you could see Zero difference oh no they looked exactly the same like it was very very very difficult to see any difference between
01:12:38
the games mhm so it seems kind of wild to release like a pro version of this when they're not releasing any games that with it that like need to take
01:12:48
advantage of the the resolution or the Fidelity um and it's also $700 well there are I guess I'm assuming that like the games now that make you choose won't make you choose anymore cuz right now when I play
01:13:01
like there's a there's like a racing game where it's like do you want like full 4K and lower frame rate or do you
01:13:07
want like the high like the shadows and R tracing and all that but like lower and I imagine all of those games will
01:13:14
not make me choose anymore just maxes out everything yeah so that's cool that's cool but like he was showing the
01:13:21
differences between the lower resolution and the higher frame rate and you really could not tell the difference between
01:13:27
the lower resolution and the higher resolution versions you'd probably have to be pixel peeping yeah it was like if you zoom in into this back corner across
01:13:34
the street you could see that Miles Morales reflection is staring at this window yeah it was just it was the most
01:13:40
minor thing ever um so a lot of people are kind of upset about it it does have some other upgrades it can now support
01:13:46
8K nobody has an 8K display so it doesn't matter and now has Wi-Fi 7 AK TVs technically I don't have an aktv
01:13:54
yeah uh now comes with a 2 TB SSD with an SSD expansion slot available wow but there's no disc option and instead they will be selling an 80 disc attachment for your physical rate can I just say
01:14:06
games and Blu-ray even the Chrysler Pacifica had a Blu-ray player and the PS5 Pro does not dang but the Chrysler
01:14:12
Pacifica costs $50,000 50,000 and this is what you said $700 yeah that should have a disc that should have that's the one that the pro is the one that should have a disc player well
01:14:24
there was there was a disc version and a dis list version of the regular PS5 right so but the dis list version was
01:14:30
kind of like assuming people were going to buy all their games in the store and not like have local media and they
01:14:37
probably will have less games yeah because they're all like on the console yeah but the people who have like a ton
01:14:43
of games are going to want the disc yeah and the pro either that or just a lot of storage as a 2K player do you buy the
01:14:50
disc or do you because I know there's a lot of sports people who like that cuz like whoever's the cover of like the NHL
01:14:57
game each year is a big news and people like to buy it when like your team or a player you like is on it yeah it's
01:15:02
actually a curse to be on it yeah interesting I hope that's not true Madden isn't it uh I know with Madden
01:15:09
there's the Madden Curse yeah D I think that's also true about 2k or they just lose so um but yeah you can buy an $80
01:15:17
disc attachment I can see people getting pretty mad about that yeah people are pretty upset obviously maybe they just
01:15:24
didn't show good examples of the Fidelity being higher um and maybe it'll be better in person but who knows anyway it out PS slim right now yeah for $500
01:15:39
yeah yeah so yeah it's going to be coming out September 26th uh sorry pror is open on September 26th and the launch is November 7th okay enough time for us to like do Tech Timber stuff and still
01:15:52
get our hands on this and be on time yes sick uh okay last thing is Huawei finally officially uh released and it well announced their Huawei mate XT
01:16:02
trifold phone and we finally got to see how it folds and I felt really dumb when
01:16:08
I realized how it folds because I remembered that huawe foldable phones are exterior folding phones not interior
01:16:15
well this is both yes yeah but the the top screen folds exteriorly over yeah I believe it's top screen right side is the fold yeah and then that folds out
01:16:27
from underneath to be one regular fold and then that folds out from underneath to be I think doing it with
01:16:34
my hands makes it so much more confusing confusing as a video imagine audio I think me trying to do with my hands last
01:16:39
time is what made it so confusing so I take blame for that my only beef is they're calling it a trifold but it's
01:16:45
actually a twofold this is actually what I would like every foldable to be because it is a 6.4 in display when it is closed but then when you open it it is a horizontal aspect ratio 10.2 in 3K
01:17:00
display which is so sick the problem I have with uh the hamburger no hot dog style foldables right now like the Google pixel9 pro fold or the Galaxy Z fold 6 or whatever or the OnePlus fold
01:17:14
is that when you open them up it's like a square aspect ratio and then you don't really get that much better screen real
01:17:20
estate and widescreen videos because they have to crop in so it crops a ton this will actually give you
01:17:25
wider it still will definitely have black bars it'll be like an iPad yeah it's awesome yeah it's so sick what do
01:17:31
you think the creases are like they're the photos look like they were pretty intense except when you're looking at it
01:17:36
full on uh straight on apparently you don't really notice it to be fair I feel like a lot of folding phones are like that it's easy to get a good glare and
01:17:43
see it but most of the time when you're using it it's pretty good at not noticing it quite as much you can also use one two or three of the panels at a
01:17:51
time so one would be when it's closed two would be one of them is still folded around the back which I assume is for like when you're taking pictures of
01:18:02
another person so they can see themselves when you're taking the photo so it's like half open oh okay yeah and
01:18:07
then three is when it's all the way open in tablet mode wow there's so many so many different phones in one yeah and
01:18:14
they were like they were like the same amount as three phones yeah this is like the the like men's 5 inone shampoo
01:18:20
conditioner body wash as a phone they were touting that you should be using with like a keyboard and a mouse which
01:18:26
is really sick I just I love I just love this I want to see it so bad like if I had to say if depending on how it all
01:18:33
works that type of folding out size is what I would be okay with going into a fold because I would want a significant
01:18:40
difference and when you open it up all the way and this is that yeah it still looked a little bit chunky but I would I
01:18:45
would do I would use that for for the convenience of having a giant tablet wow $2,800 yeah 2,800 USD 3K that's going back to our earlier conversation about
01:18:58
you're either delusional or very confident they announced this a couple hours after the iPhone on purpose yeah
01:19:05
which by the way this was the perfect year to do it because this was like the least Innovative iPhone year agre true
01:19:10
it got some hype it has 4 million pre-orders yeah we're talking about it dur at least that's what they said
01:19:16
that's what they said that's what Huawei they're clearly was hype around this though like I saw a lot of it on Twitter
01:19:22
and Tech Twitter at least and yeah it's I mean we can't even use it in the US right so no it's not that big of a deal for us personally I want to see it but I think people are pumped about this yeah
01:19:33
I really want to check it out I just want to play with it as like a tech demo it's just so cool yeah I don't know I
01:19:39
think it's going to be a number of years before we see a US manufacturer start making something like this unfortunately
01:19:45
who's going to do the first quad fold it's probably that's basically crumple phone quad fold is crumple phone
01:19:55
or like it's going to fold like this and then fold in I was yeah yeah it goes out and then also f up like a map huwei
01:20:01
origami yeah when and then when you flip it up it has a little Fortune written inside well on that note we've talked about this point enough we should uh we should wrap this up we've talked a lot
01:20:14
uh last thing we should do is get to the answers to the trivia questions trivia time I have to leave my answer to the second question at the bottom cuz I don't want to forget it but I wrote it
01:20:26
already and you never forget you want to just do the second question first oh okay okay yeah oh I was kind of expecting you guys to say no and I thought that would be funny so all
01:20:37
right were you paying attention all right quick update on the score Marquez with 16 Andrew in the lead with 20 David following up with 19 yo Andrew
01:20:53
how's your back feel like for real well I mean you've got I have a kid now so you like relieved a
01:20:58
lot you're not carrying that one anymore Bro you've got all that weight off I'm carrying the one that's crazy you know who's actually carrying the one passed
01:21:05
it on to me Google Ellis I'm not sure why at some point in the past we wrote my name down on the score sheet and
01:21:12
carry the one uh but did you carry it Google with negative3 and Marquez while you were gone David Pierce hopped on for a productivity uh checkup with Andrew so he got a point as well so he's on the
01:21:23
board car I have added three tasks to my Google task and um I did those tasks and
01:21:29
I never checked them off you're halfway there you're halfway there you did the important part of it yeah I did it for
01:21:35
David but all right here's your question okay during the event when they were showing off Apple's visual intelligence which is basically just Google Lens someone walked up to a dog and instead
01:21:46
of asking them what kind of dog it was took a picture of it and used Apple intelligence to identify the breed what
01:21:52
breed was that animal [Music] do you have to spell it right no okay the look Mark has just gave me I'm really hoping D you're really
01:22:09
focused over there yeah are you trying to figure out how to spell it or are you just so
01:22:15
confident he's writing in cursive again Cur God oh no flip him and read what do you got look like that all right oh that's the wait it was an Australian
01:22:26
like sheep dog thing wait cattle dog and sheep dog I think are two very different dogs two different really I know you're
01:22:33
trying to say Australian Cattle Dog cuz that's the other thing I was thinking of cuz these two dogs kind of bear
01:22:39
resemblance it does look like what you wrote but yeah I'm pretty sure it said Australian cattle dog when it was on the
01:22:44
keynote stage damn correct dang it what did you did you give that to him blue healer that not blue they look pretty simar that sounds like a magic the Gathering card
01:22:54
blue healer yeah David I read you right what did you write doll Nation no Nation uh on that's good
01:23:07
thank you what there's no difference between a blue healer and an Australian Cattle Dog okay well then they are the
01:23:12
same breed impressive okay all right whatever I noted that it said Australian Cattle Dog because it was just in
01:23:18
Australia and I was like oh cool Australian Cattle doogs that's why I remembered it but I get that I guess
01:23:23
that's correct blue heer was a kind of Australian what's the difference okay I think
01:23:31
that proba count all blue healers are Australian cattle dogs but not all Australian cattle dogs are blue healers so the dog no no so that means I was on the right side right well not the dog in
01:23:43
the keynote was not necessarily a blue healer interesting technically what do you think nope no I'm fine with not getting it sorry this is very funny though in this it says but what about
01:23:54
the blue healer do they measure up to the Australian Cattle doog characteristics they most certainly do because they are the same breed measure
01:24:01
up wow cuz I was also looking for they show the words Australian Cattle doog on the phone that's what I was looking for I think it's pretty impressive that I remember time I saw a dog in Australia I
01:24:12
was like oh that's an Australian uh and I just all dogs are Australian dogs that's Australian that's an Australian poodle that's an Australian German Shepherd Australian manit I'm having fun
01:24:24
this is great episode but Apple did say 3D twice during their event What two products did they say 3D during and yes I realize now only after
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asking the question how specific do you have to be on the product like give me an example yes if there's a pro and uh what
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do you think I feel like I'm if you guys don't I need I need I need spe cuz otherwise there's only like three products they announ and you need to name two of
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them I really did not do a good job with this question I tried to give specific hi all right who wants to go
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first I wrote airpods 4 Apple watch 10 wait wait let me make sure it wasn't the ultra I'm pretty sure it was the it wouldn't be the ultra the ultra already
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exist stumbled ultra's flat uh no what it was the it was in fact really the ultra are you sure what were they saying what would they say it was 3D about the ultra well 3D anodized black wait uh yep
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it's the ultra one point for David what is the 3D well I'll tell you after I go around oh I just said airpods 4 and airpods Max well I said airpods and airpod and
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Apple watch you said airpods even though I'm right twice I'm wrong twice wait here's
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Marquez did give the specific examples of so I said airpods with 3D audio tracking and I said Apple watch with the
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3D curve display so I'm definitely not right unfortunately all right so so it's Apple watch Ultra 3D they described the Apple watch Ultra band the new one by
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Hermes as 3D which is stupid because it's a physical object specifically they said it's made of a 3D knit as if to explain to us that it is not in fact part of the chalk Zone like
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I don't wow that one that one I was at home watching and my jaw hit my couch I was just like Jesus Christ um and then say 40 the other yeah right and then the
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other time they used the word 3D was to describe the 3D photogrametry they used to map quote thousands of ears that's right in preparation for the new airpods
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4 God I wish I was one of those ears um but Marquez you have 17 points now with your dog Point Andrew or excuse me David second place still one point behind with
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20 carrying the one and Andrew big cheddar himself in the lead with 21 points I can't wait till some dog breed expert argu bullies you guys and I get
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another point by next I welcome that because not even going to finish that sentence thanks for watching this episode of waveform podcast thanks for listening thanks for uh thanks for
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was really well done yes yeah video is really fun to make love that video I hit Andrew in the face yeah I almost lost
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Vision in one of my eyes during it so that you almost lost Apple Vision Pro that's not for another four months Ultra four
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