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what is up welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts i'm marquez and i'm andrew
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coming at you live from ces in las vegas nevada although you can't tell but we're green screened back into
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the studio beautiful green scene three angles i mean like you can't even tell we're not in the studio really well done
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i'm just kidding we're not at ces right now um we we have seen that ces is still happening and we're going to talk about
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some ces stuff we're going to talk a little bit about tesla's new ui update the upsides and downsides of having a
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software ui and then of course we're going to do a little bit of a beginning of the year type thing i guess you've
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got a plan yeah a little plan just at the end we're gonna go over some old predictions okay so it turned
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out yeah we're gonna start with ces um like i said we're not there this is the first year
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since my first ever ces that i'm not going so i'm trying to think back i don't want to sound too old right now but it's been almost a decade of ces
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that i've gone to yeah the first year it's available to go to right because last year was just completely virtual for everyone oh right yeah yeah yes i've
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attended every in-person ces since my first ces okay and it's been like 10 years so this is the first one i'm not
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going to a lot of code safety stuff a lot of just like me having done it already and not
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feeling a super big need to go but there is still plenty of stuff happening there's lots of ces stuff that always
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happens um so we're gonna go through some of those quick hits right off the top yeah i i wrote down a couple that kind of
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like caught my eye i mean ces we all know has like a ton of crazy stuff but there's always like five or six
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headlines that everyone needs to go see i mean like remember the lg rollable tv like that was a must must see i keep
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seeing tv ads for that have you seen these i have not there's there's literal lg ads now i mean if you watch enough
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nba games you'll probably see one but it's just like this happy-go-lucky like family who just has
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a rollable tv in the middle of the room which is weird to me because where do you plug it in yeah
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and it's yeah it's a kid doing like ballet or being a ballerina in front of their hundred thousand dollar rollable tv i
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just don't know why they pick that tv for their ads it's weird yeah if you're gonna have a rollable tv a hundred
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thousand rollable tv you've got a room big enough to put it in the middle of the room up against the wall that is true that's
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kind of neat that started at css for sure cool yeah um all right so things i've seen this year so far there's a
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samsung remote that can wirelessly charge through radio frequencies i saw the headline
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right so like i did i quickly looked at it this it basically can like slowly sip energy from your router
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frequencies when it's not being used to i guess keep charge but it also which i
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think is kind of cooler has like a little solar panel on the back of it so when if you flip the remote upside down
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next to like a lamp it's as a lamp i didn't realize maybe i'm just dumb but i didn't realize
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solar panels can get energy from artificial light any light yeah okay cool yeah from lamps or i guess like a
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window or something like that but to me that sounds like remotes don't take a lot of usage like you rarely change the
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batteries in your remote so even just the solar panel on the back of one seems like a pretty solid idea i think that makes the most sense out of all the
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gadgets in your house which one sits the longest in the same place yeah and like
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around there's a 50 chance it's upside down and possibly like in the sun or something like that yeah so yeah i feel
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like that's not a bad idea um tcl is coming out with a 98 inch qled tv
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sounds fun that's insane it's a 98 inch so how much is there a price i'm gonna click on this link because i haven't
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seen this yet is there a price i remember a price but i mean 98 inches like i think the most i really think of
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is like maybe 85 88 is rs 88 that lg like that is an 88 signature okay right
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um i mean like that's ridiculous when you're usually that's where the projector world
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steps in they're like yeah well you can't have a tc that's a hundred inches so come do this like short throw
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projector that can get you to 100 inches but like now we kind of are there yeah that is
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kind of the that is the quintessential ces thing it's been just like in the history of ces there's always a ton of
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tvs yeah and you always get to see like the next wave of tv or display related stuff
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happen in this show at the beginning of the year so there was a whole year where every tv was curved like everyone who
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made tvs had a curved tv in their booth not an exaggeration innovation baby yeah and it was like all right how much do
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you want to curve how wide will it curve will it curve like diagonally or just horizontally there's all these things
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there was a year of 3d tvs of course i did see a one this year i don't know
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if i would call a curved tv but it was actually an lg thing where it was basically curved upwards and it was a
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stationary bike so that you can like more actively
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i guess see your surroundings in this like fake bike ride which to me just feels like put on vr goggles that is way easier
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true and immersive true there is there's i think multiple versions of this but there was one monitor that was curved
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that you could rotate into being vertically which again that's a that's a classic samsung thing but they made that
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too uh yeah i know if you if you just want immersion you can you can level up immersion pretty easily with a headset
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but some people don't want to do the headset they just want a huge monitor and that's still to be able to see your kids running around i guess or something
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exactly by the way i'm seeing tcl latest xl model starts under 8 000 so i think we
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can all assume that means 7.99 sure okay cool yeah yeah you see the tv world like this this 98 inch q-led tv or yeah q-led
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tv is is a ces type headline like where else would they show off this crazy thing that most people will never buy
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but you do see a lot of the reasonably priced innovations and like cool smaller oled tvs for example at a show like this
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too so still happening yeah um next one i saw this one i really like it's not like a
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crazy crazy ces like bleeding edge thing but it's just something i really want and that's
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uh basically a credit card that attaches to the find my app with apple so that you
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can put it in your wallet not the thickness of like an air tag but actually just have a regular credit card
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in your wallet that's defined by it's a really good application yeah yeah so this is
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essentially turning your wallet into a smart wallet or at least pretty much by only taking up one card slot which
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like i know we're all trying to be a little more minimal usually with our wallets that seems to be our generation so it still stinks holding one up but
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like it's way better than shoving an air tag in there we could both use it yeah all right earlier this week we
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haven't said this yet but we both we both arrived at the studio on the first
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weekday of the new year and we have our our little cards and our wallets to get into the building and into the studio
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and i step out my car i'm like yeah i don't have my wallet i forgot it and you step out your car and you're like oh no
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worries i can let us in and then you realize you didn't have your wallet either we both somehow forgot our wallet
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on the same day it was a little embarrassing it was the first day back from break i feel like my morning routine had
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gotten lazy and i knew exactly where i left it it's one of those things but like if you didn't know where you left it you could have this card in there and
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you could just pull it up on the phone and be like oh yeah my wallet is at my home address right now and maybe even find it inside your home with this so
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yeah no that's that's definitely really useful i don't want to carry an air pod thickness thing inside a regular wallet
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yeah that's crazy um so it's coming it's 35 it's called the chiplow cart chipolo
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card um 35 for a single 60 bucks for two pack now one thing because it's so thin
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non-replaceable battery says it'll last about two years and then you get a 50 discount if you recycle it two years is
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actually better than i expected yeah that's really solid i think pretty good um and then also just like on top of that i also saw another quick headline
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just about a backpack that's coming with find my built into it so i feel like we're getting into the time of
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everything's going to start having the eye tracking tool involved into it so this is like the the
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the age-old question of do you buy like one assistant started getting built into everything do you buy a new thing with
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assistant in it or do you keep using your current thing but sort of add the traffic add to the tracker like i'm not
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gonna buy a new backpack just to have find my i'll probably buy one of these cards and put it in my backpack because
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i like my backpack and i don't want to buy specifically that one new model but it is a cool concept that it can be just
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like threaded right into the bag it also seems super on brand if peak eventually added that on to it oh i could see that
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um like that would totally work so i think we're just gonna see a lot more of these everyday things that we have um
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getting these tracking options involved in them um which for apple is fantastic
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because that means more people who are going to want to buy an iphone and still be able to track it yep yeah i could have bought a tile for my backpack this
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whole time yeah but i didn't i'm gonna get one of these cards instead yeah that's crazy um
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okay so that's kind of like the couple fun things i read but we all kind of know ces as like crazy headlines really
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weird super niche products um so we're going to play a little game adam and i made a little game out of this for you
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um you are the contestant you're not versus anyone uh but we're basically
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um if you don't get made fun of in the comments you have one okay okay cool um
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we're basically gonna play two truths and a lie but ces version so essentially
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mostly adam picked out like some of the weirdest gadgets that people have been reporting on so far and we've made five
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rounds each round has three items two of them are real one of them's fake okay and this is
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through them it's this year's ces okay i'll i'll give him my best shot i'll be honest i thought ces started today so if
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there's a bunch of stuff i haven't seen yet from previous days this this could be rough but i think it's it's like that
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weird thing where ces like the tech the show floor started today but like they all start those like pre they're like
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pre-announced meetings and stuff like that and mostly you have to announce things so people come to your suite and everything so okay um all right cool
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we're gonna start this off i'm going to read i guess through all of them we have a small description of each of them and
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then at the end you can tell me which one is real and which one's fake wow okay let's do it round one
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perfect fill smart bathing technology lets you fill your bath with a voice command no more waiting for your bath to
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fill after a long day it has presets so you can save specific temperatures for you and your partner or even your kids
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starts at 2 700 then we have the john deere self-driving driving
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autonomous tractor kit six cameras and we'll stop the tractor if there's a dog in the way it combines machine learning
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gps powered auto steel and the kit can be fitted onto recent john deere tractors and is powered by a phone app
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and we have the be buddy beefeater a bee feeder with a camera that connects to your wi-fi so you can watch the bees
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as they harvest their honey and create their hives starts at 299 but comes with a live
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queen bee to start your own hive okay
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uh two real one pigs so a ba a bath a bathing technology
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a self-driving john deere tractor and truck tractor kit so you can retrofit right
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and a beehive a smart beehive so i've i've seen the the john deere headline already so i know that that one's real
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some of this stuff that you're probably haven't seen so i've seen that now the beehive one i could totally see i could
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totally see being like yeah we'll give you a queen bee and you can have your own smart beehive and monitor and all
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the imagine all the metrics of how much honey you're getting out of it all this stuff um the smart faucet thing
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is an interesting concept i just can't picture why it would be twenty seven hundred dollars
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for a smart you said it was a smart faucet let you pre-select your temperature or a self-bathing
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you might have to read that what's funny is i'm just gonna read you the description i have here which i guess i technically
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the photo i have here oh i don't know just shows uh
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i probably shouldn't talk about the photos that much even though we have photos for everything including the fake ones so i'll just describe a photo here
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i guess it's pretty much just it's just a ui that shows a bathtub filled and the temperature of it i think
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you can do that with uh with a smart faucet which is a real thing okay and um so
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lets you fill your bath with a voice command no more waiting for your bath to fill after a long day has presets you can save specific temperatures for your
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partner or your kids twenty seven hundred dollars wow this is tough i i could very easily see that being
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real and i could very easily see the beehive being real at ces though i don't know that you could demo the beehive
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part [Music] uh so it's tough let's go with uh john
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deere is real okay and beehive is real incorrect no way john deere is real
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i like the buzzer um okay so adam's very smart here the beef
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the beehive was a bird feeder but he changed it to a beehive so that's it is very real although let's be honest i
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would way rather have a smart beehive that sounds yeah way cooler than i wanted you know um but yeah that no the
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smart bathing technology is real i'm going to assume 2 700 because does it include the bathtub also
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it doesn't look like it actually it doesn't even show a picture i think they're overcharging a little
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bit i think they're overcharging a lot a bit on that one um okay cool round one wow
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no you got you got one kind of right okay partial yeah round two here um the lg
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stand by me rolling tv 27-inch polar tv that's attached to a stand with wheels
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as you walk around the house you can it will follow you and you can also attach the screen and hold it on your lap
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we have the samsung gear bixby health smart band gps tracker heart rate detector spo2 tracking sleep tracking
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and a bunch of other health options problem is it has no screens no buttons you only interact with it using bixby to
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save for battery life um and it claims it has a seven day battery life because of that
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portable air purifier noise canceling earbuds portable air purifier noise
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canceling earbuds as we know kovit is airborne a lot of people have become more aware of how germs are spread so we're still singing happy birthday while
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washing our hands but these headphones purify the air around you by pushing negative ions around your face while doubling as a pair of noise-canceling
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earbuds whoa okay that was a long very descriptive
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that was brutal that was a very like pitchy so that last one with the earbuds and the ions seems so dumb that it has to be
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real like that's like a that's a quintessential ces dumb real type type of product so i
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could totally see personified yeah and especially this year at ces i could see that um so remind me the second one again um
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it's the bixby oh yeah yeah the bixby i can see that so this so so samsung makes uh i mean they
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make up a million things but they make a smart band that tracks a bunch of stuff and then to save battery life
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no screen no screen yeah only interaction i guess kind of like i mean whoops been doing that for years
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no screen decent enough battery just your software is bixby yeah yeah
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uh bixby can i clarify bixby the voice assistant or bixby like yeah
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because you don't have a screen yeah yeah okay all right uh and then the first one is the lg's stand
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by me rolling tv oh that one that one sounds bad so 27 inch screen rolls
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around following you that's pretty big that's imax size it is and then you can pop it off and hold it in your lap so
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that means it's a touch screen yes 27 inch touchscreen wow i actually think the
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the bixby one is fake correct okay good job yeah that was a good i liked that
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idea the rolling tv though i mean look at this picture of it oh my god where's the wheels it's underneath the little
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platform i'm guessing but like this thing would topple over so that seems very yeah that would roll for about
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30 seconds in my house before it would just crack the screen hurtles itself down some stairs yeah and you are very
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right the um the air purifying noise-cancelling earbuds are a real thing um it's if anyone's
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wondering who's listening it's like one of those earbuds that have like the neck piece so that is the part
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that's blowing the air out and like counteracting your um yeah all right cool wait also i don't know if the tv is
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touch screen just to clarify then that's even dumber you pop there we go
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still real also dumb wow round three deer buds
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bluetooth earbud-like device that tracks your ear humidity and helps you dehumidify your ears turn them on takes
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three minutes to measure and then dehumidify your ear canals these do not play music they're actually made to take
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care of your ears because you use earbuds for too long smart dog collar basically a fitbit for
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your dog tracks health overall activities sleep and has gps built in battery will last several weeks between
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recharges and the dog gets out of a predetermined area and if a dog gets out of a predetermined
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area it has escape alerts and then an automatic pet water bowl
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the water bowl has a giant tank on top that dispenses predetermined amounts of water depending on the activity of your pet it has cameras that uses ai to
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recognize your pet and understand how frequently it is drinking water giving you alerts every time it takes a sip it
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also alert you if your pet hasn't drank enough water at the end of every week you'll get a grafts sent through the app to show water
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consumption okay okay
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okay so we've got uh an ear dehumidifying earbud
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that doesn't play music that's just the intermediate dehumidifiers your ear canal well according to the yeah the
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description only talks about dehumidifying it talks nothing about about sound quality or anything then
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you've got a pet tracking like a fitbit for your for your dog yeah a collar collar and then you've got a
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smart water bowl um so i've seen the headlines about the
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first two uh so i've seen the headlines of the ear dehumidifying earbud i have no idea
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if there's i mean there's gonna be someone out there who's like marquez how do you not know about all the ear dehumidifying
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gadgets out there but i'll be honest i can't believe anyone would actually buy this but you know maybe it's just a proof of
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concept they're showing off how they can dehumidify small spaces with earbuds cool
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but that's real which is crazy and then uh yeah the pet collar that one i actually think would be cool like i have
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my fitness tracking i kind of want to know if like my dog needs more activity or like how much
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activity they're getting and relatively you know high or low levels of it uh so the smart water bowl feels like a like a
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quality like science fair project where like if you you could get your water dispenser to tell you how much you drank
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during the week it would work you'll be fine but i think that's the fake one yeah you're right i i believe there are like
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there are automatic water bowls obviously but like not ai driven telling
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alerting you when your dog drinks from it um the dog dog smart caller there's a few of them out there i think and i'd
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like to try that do all of the things i know we've talked about one that's just like an invisible fence version of it
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but doing everything is uh gps and everything okay two more oh yes all right that's great
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round four the moe and no handle faucet in coveted times we're all washing our hands a ton so moen has created a faucet
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that's completely driven by ai there's no handles so you don't have to touch it at all it just has five sensors to
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detect what is going under the faucet and automatically sets the pressure and temperature of the water
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we have the pranker a mobile app and device that when combined can create and print temporary tattoos on your body you
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can create a tattoo on your phone and the device will spray a primer on your skin then start printing a temporary
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tattoo and the sony finder remote the sony the new sony remote has google
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assistant built in so whenever you lose your remote you can ask your google assistant and it will make a noise to help you locate it under the couch
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cushions it also has automatic backlight that will light up buttons whenever you pick it up in the room that is dark
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so that last one sounds like a pretty solid product actually uh a remote that you can always find
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google assistant adam's good at making up pretty solid products yeah that's what i'm saying this is this is a tough
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one so the first one was a no touch faucet now there's a lot of no touch faucets that
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already exist but i guess this one's newly designed to be in the home and maybe has some smart sensors
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to determine what's going under the faucet yeah so that that to me seems the least realistic especially like i
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remember seeing a i think it was shark tank where like you would put food on a plate
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remember this ovens tries to do well okay so but the the oven has a camera inside that looks down and uses like
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vision to see what's on your plate when you put it in but this plate was supposed to just like
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molecularly determine what food it is and tell you how many calories it was and that did not pass a shark tank test i'm
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sure it didn't uh and i don't think there's any any faucets out there without like some
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seriously impressive image recognition that could actually determine like oh you're washing dishes and you need hot
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water versus cold water or you're washing your hands or you're washing some other washcloth
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or whatever i don't know what it would be recognizing so that's the one i'm the most confused about i don't think that's the real one okay but remind me what the
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second one was it's a temporary tattoo printer oh god right right i mean if you
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want to talk about confusing a temporary tattoo printer the printer
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print there's a name the printer the printer inc i don't really get the name printer
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printer i guess ink printer oh god i think that's real
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oh no i'm gonna i'm gonna go with that the temporary tattoo printer is real okay
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and that the first one with the faucet is actually the fake one good job that's right another winner
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yeah the there is mo and did make a no handle faucet i think it's worse than what i made up
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there because like you don't use um you have to do it using voice commands
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using gestures or a mobile app so i just can't imagine like turning my sync on with voice commands that sounds
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ridiculous i actually don't think an ai driven one would be that hard it's like here's dishes hot water here's your hands like
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warm water here's a glass a glass that maybe you're filling up cold water
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i think that seems really easy it does but like where do you put the sensors and like are they just cameras i
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guess at that point all just vision so what happens when they get i mean this hat this real version of this has a camera that sees your hand gestures
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in the front yeah camera on the front on the front i guess it would have to well i guess because you can do your gestures on the front
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where the thing would have to reach the bottom i guess that's interesting oh yeah i'm glad i got that one though yeah
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that was a tough one that was good that was tough all right okay this is the last round and this is
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my favorite one okay okay the see through smart glasses a pair of prescription glasses that you can wear
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outside and around town except that if you want to you can also mirror your computer screen at the click of a button
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on the right temple when you're working at the computer they're just regular glasses but if you want to go sit on the couch during a zoom presentation you can
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press the press the button to mirror your batter your computer screen battery life four
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hours smart health tracking light bulb i don't even like reading that one out
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loud a light bulb with a built-in radar sensor that can read heart rate body temperature and other vital signs it can
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even read through materials like textiles so clothes aren't a problem and of course it detects movement uses bluetooth to create a map of your home
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and radar to sense you so no cameras just vibes
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finger nibbling robot toy most people most people like the nibbling sensation
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but no they need to teach their children or pets to stop nibbling this robot frees humankind of the conundrum of whether to
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pursue pursue or not to pursue the forbidden pleasure uses an algorithm to cycle through two dozen nibbling
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patterns so you won't get bored using it so wait so it's for people who like
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like their hand being nibbled by an animal or a child yes and so the robot just nibbles your hand yeah because i
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guess that's a bad habit to teach your pets or kids oh my god okay wow okay all right so there's that
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there's a smart light bulb so it's trapped it's a health tracking light bulb a health tracking light bulb
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sees through clothes can see what your what your body temperature is what is it what is it tracking though
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heart rate body temperature vital signs
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i have a hard time okay i have a hard time with that one uh did you say how it was tracking infrared i don't know there just seems
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like too much interference happening with it it doesn't it just says built-in radar sensor radar oh
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no way radar's not high-res enough for that these are just small descriptions also yeah okay i realize these aren't the full
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right and the first one was smart glasses which i we've seen a lot of this whole ar thing popping up you know you
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get a smart glasses you get a display up there maybe you want to mirror some stuff there's stuff like that actually
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that kind of exists already um four hour battery life is very realistic
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so if that's the fake one that's a great tidbit um but i'm gonna say that the
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the nibbling things i can't believe i i think that's real i i think that's
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actually real i think the i think the light bulb is fake because i don't think you can track
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that much high-res information through all the interference of all the lights that come out of a light bulb
00:26:02
i think that's the fake one adam okay apparently that's real no that's
00:26:09
the lightbulb's real yeah the nip which one's fake um the glasses
00:26:14
it's robot toy man all right so this is just coming from an article it's called this smart light
00:26:19
bulb monitors your health but it's a little creepy single standout ces 2020 smart home
00:26:25
device is a health monitoring light bulb yeah i'm not sure about that not into it i
00:26:32
this seems like something that's that announced but maybe isn't working completely properly yet but um it is a
00:26:39
real thing and it is a real headline from ces 2020. um and yes the finger
00:26:44
nibbling robot toy is just as creepy oh it's shaped like an animal and you put it in its mouth and everything come
00:26:50
on three dozen different nibbling patterns yeah i'm i feel like you had to know that was real because none of us are creative enough yeah to come up with
00:26:57
yeah when i wrote that in the document when adam and i were doing it he just quickly wrote please tell me this is
00:27:04
that is quality ces and also now you're gonna go to ces and a hundred thousand people from all over the world are gonna
00:27:09
stick their finger in one thing the nibbling robot is what will spread yeah
00:27:14
what a great time yeah all right well it's time for a break i think well one more quick thing just like an idea of
00:27:21
how this was how this was kind of tough to set up because cs is so ridiculous adam made up a product and then searched it and it
00:27:27
was a real product yeah do you want to tell us about that yeah so i was looking for things that
00:27:34
seemed kind of realistic but then tweaking certain things so they weren't actually the real thing so i was like
00:27:40
okay what if there's a pillow that tracks your sleeping things and gives you like information about your sleep stuff it's like that seems realistic
00:27:47
enough where it might be able to trick them and i was like let me just quickly google this and it was literally announced this ces there's like a motion
00:27:53
pillow three that tracks your head movements and stuff that's incredible yeah see that's kind of what happens at ces you get every
00:27:59
little idea that maybe wasn't good enough for its own event or its own announcement and it shows up at the trade show and you just kind of check it
00:28:06
out you just sort of push it out there and let people see like do you like nibbling robots like is that what you're into
00:28:12
um okay i've had enough seats i think we've all had enough yeah that was hardcores yeah let's take a quick break
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00:29:29
next story is something i've been seeing all over twitter all over reddit i just like feels like everybody's talking
00:29:34
about but i'm not a tesla owner so i need your help a little um it seems like this new tesla ui update
00:29:42
is a lot of first i was seeing some good for it and now i've been seeing a lot of backlash about how
00:29:48
hard it's kind of making things yeah um did you get the upgrade for it or the update so i do not have this update okay
00:29:55
but uh i am in the advanced queue to get these updates okay so i can explain um
00:30:01
first of all there's there's model threes and model y's that have one touch screen in the middle yeah and then
00:30:07
there's model s and model x which have one screen in the middle and a second screen behind the dashboard okay that
00:30:12
was my first question actually because the older but it's only model s plaid that has that one now right or is raven updated to that all of
00:30:19
them all of the cars have been updated okay however this was already a problem
00:30:24
in model s plaid and all the new model s's and x's okay and so model threes and
00:30:29
older cars and raven which had the vertical screen are all now getting i think slightly i think it's
00:30:35
pretty clear slightly worse because of this update so first of all here's here's what happened
00:30:41
you have a in a normal car you just have a heat seat button yep you just have one button you just press that your heat
00:30:47
starts to warm up your seat warms up you press it again it turns off in model s
00:30:53
previously and in a lot of these cars model 3 previously at the bottom of the screen there was a seat button so you
00:30:58
sort of remembered where it was on the screen and it's still one tap away you tap it yeah your heat your seat heater
00:31:04
starts going you tap again it's gone so they've done this new update which is cleaned up the bottom and put it all in
00:31:11
this nice neat little dock and there's a bunch of different shortcuts in the dock and they have all the hvac controls
00:31:16
hidden behind the temperature and this has always been the case on model s plaid so every time i wanted to
00:31:22
heat my seat i have to go hit the temperature which opens all the hvac controls then hit the seat and then turn
00:31:28
the heating on so it was a couple clicks away okay so i found that pretty annoying in that car but i gotten used to it but model 3
00:31:35
owners have always still had that button right there yeah that button just went away and they got replaced with this
00:31:41
update which now makes them all like model s plaid which means you go hit the temperature hit your heatseater and then
00:31:47
turn it on it's several taps away so it's this weird update that just made it more difficult to do a lot of things
00:31:53
that i think most car owners expect to be extremely easy um it's too it's too many clicks to be
00:31:59
muscle memory i think that's it that's the real problem um and i i've had a bunch of
00:32:05
small software complaints about the latest model s for a while one of them
00:32:11
being if i want to change fan speed i have to go hit the temperature and then
00:32:16
at the top there's like a slider and i have to like slide this like very small touch screen slider manually in the
00:32:22
middle of the screen no way to do that without taking my eyes off the road you could just map it to a button on the
00:32:27
steering wheel yeah it's not possible to do that so things like that um
00:32:32
you know there used to not actually be any way to access viewing sentry mode footage they added that with a software
00:32:38
update so at least they're thinking about making things better yeah but this particular update for hvac controls
00:32:44
universally bad usually yeah you want things to be quickly accessible exactly i mean if
00:32:49
you're adding a touch screen we kind of talked about this a little bit with the yoke steering wheel where just like lack
00:32:54
of buttons makes it harder to find things and now you've gotten more used to it but imagine now your yoke steering
00:33:00
wheel where you've gotten used to the buttons and now they switch places yeah and exactly you can't really find
00:33:05
exactly where those buttons are off and yes we can all look at the screen but i hope everyone understands here that you
00:33:12
probably shouldn't be looking at the screen when you're driving a car um and temperature is something we change while
00:33:17
we drive the car heated seats or something we change while we drive the car like um yeah it seems
00:33:24
yeah universally like i think andy slice said it takes six button presses to turn on his heated
00:33:29
seat and get back to his regular like menu yeah i think he's kind of ridiculous yeah it's definitely too many
00:33:35
so that's like that really highlights for me the upside and downside of like this new wave of cards that's coming out
00:33:40
that are all very high tech and have a big oh this is gonna be probably with everyone yeah yeah which is that number
00:33:45
one upside yes they can be updated the performance gets better the buttons get nicer looking they get faster everything
00:33:52
improves over time ideally with software updates but number two the bad thing is sometimes they're going to make mistakes
00:33:58
and make things worse and this is one of those examples where i i think they could roll it back and everyone would be really happy but yeah this is uh this is
00:34:06
not great on all the previous cars by the way they had all the buttons like locked i could turn the heat seater on
00:34:12
without looking even though it wasn't a physical button it was in the same place on the touchscreen every time and so i'd
00:34:17
get in my car and without even looking i know right like two thirds over from the left side of the screen i just pressed
00:34:22
right there my heat seater just turned on yeah so it had a dock on the bottom of it pretty much that had all the things like i'm looking at it i posted
00:34:29
it on our dock it has the old ui and kind of the new ui and um like it's very clear there's the seat button next to
00:34:35
each of the climate trolls for driver and passenger you've got like music gps
00:34:41
defroster is that now like i'm assuming that's a couple clicks away now yeah it has been on this on this car yeah that
00:34:48
seems like yeah all of the hvac controls are behind that one temperature button so it's at least one
00:34:55
click away before you start to change stuff that seems like kind of a pain in the neck um and then like the other
00:35:00
thing i wrote is wipers i know it has automatic wipers but i'm i've never been in a car where the automatic wipers are perfect and always
00:35:06
match exactly what i want to do so like i feel like wipers on a stalk would
00:35:11
be awesome um obviously i don't mind the wipers as they are which is uh basically
00:35:18
you turn them on okay and then you get a slider through the wheel on the steering wheel
00:35:23
okay and you can slide them up or down based on speed now so what if let's just imagine you have that wheel
00:35:29
on the side of your what does it default to on the side of your yoke uh when you turn it on you can just do a single wipe if you turn it on
00:35:35
and scroll the wheel then you can go up to auto up to single double triple or so the wheel is always wiper or do you you
00:35:42
activate something then use the wheel you hit the windshield wiper button to get one wipe okay and when you do that
00:35:48
the menu pops up so if you want to keep them on you scroll the wheel up to auto okay or up again to slow and then up
00:35:54
again to medium and up again effect so what if you could do like press the temperature button and now that wheel is activated for the next
00:36:01
couple of that's what it is go up and down that's exactly what it should do it obviously still doesn't hit the seat
00:36:06
thing i think the seat should just be i i don't get why everyone just doesn't i like the seat just next to the side of
00:36:11
the seat by your like uh seat belt buckle it's just like well press it on or like on the side of your
00:36:17
door yeah i think this is a tesla thing where they want all possible input in the car to be
00:36:23
computer controlled if you want which means that there are literally no physical buttons in the car other than
00:36:30
the windows which you can still do with the computer and the hazard button okay hazard button should always be a button
00:36:36
hazard button is a capacitive button but it's a button okay um other than that
00:36:41
yeah you know typically you'd have like uh your hvac controls your media playback all that other sort of stuff
00:36:47
would be physical in the car all none of it in any tesla is physical it's always all been on the screen yeah
00:36:52
so that's the advantage and the disadvantage at the same time i kind of miss or i shouldn't say i miss i don't
00:36:58
have a tesla or a lot of these new evs are doing it but like i 100 agree that
00:37:03
so many cars like completely overdid it with all the buttons especially when you look at some of these like crazy
00:37:10
high class like super luxury ones where there's like 50 buttons in the center dash and everything right like the
00:37:16
center console yeah yeah um but then going the complete opposite and having almost no buttons
00:37:22
i don't know if i would like that very much i feel like there are a couple things i would i think i'll always like
00:37:27
a dial for um volume no not even for volume uh my wheel volume is where i do
00:37:34
everything oh true like on my steering wheel um i think climate control dial is always something i'll enjoy a physical
00:37:41
heated seat something i'll always enjoy is it you still have physical locks and everything correct
00:37:47
uh like locking the doors no that's on the touch screen really yeah okay yeah wow
00:37:54
i've been in them plenty i just like i guess when you're not the one doing the physical things over and over again like
00:37:59
all these things behind the touch screen seem like a lot like way too many things behind this yeah and to be fair i think
00:38:05
they've done a pretty good job of anticipating when certain things will be pressed and surfacing them as buttons so
00:38:12
your muscle memory can still be one press so for example if i bring the car to a stop and put my foot on the brake there is no
00:38:18
park gear selector yeah but the park button appears in the same exact corner every time so i just put my foot on the brake
00:38:24
i come to zero and i just hit that button it just appears there because that's where it's supposed to be um a lot of stuff like that so like
00:38:30
opening and closing the doors when i pull up and like park the car then all the lot controls
00:38:35
slide out so i can always lock and unlock from there otherwise i just get out so a lot of the stuff that you
00:38:41
anticipate you start to learn that as muscle memory the same way every time and you get used to the way the car
00:38:46
works but then when you step back and think about it you're like yeah that is kind of weird that like i shift into drive by sliding a touch screen that's
00:38:53
kind of unusual yeah to get used to that for sure um if you had to like i do think so when it
00:38:59
was funny because when i first saw this come out i saw someone like quinn mention that he really did enjoy the design of the new ui but now now like
00:39:07
once people are driving it a little longer and seeing all the if there was like a a middle ground here or like the updated
00:39:13
version of what was it version is it version 10 that was the older one version 11
00:39:18
yeah so if there was a either upgraded version 10 what would you like to make that cleaner or how would you make the
00:39:24
version 11 the same cleanness but more functional i really just think they should allow a
00:39:30
little bit more control from the wheel so actually in the last model s there was a menu button on the steering wheel
00:39:36
okay and that let you actually surprisingly easily go in and change a lot of different things on the
00:39:42
wheel so i'd hit the menu button and then it would go oh what would you like to control with the wheel and i could go fan speed volume you know whatever
00:39:49
temperature and then i could select it with the wheel and then roll the wheel to adjust it yeah so if i wanted to
00:39:54
adjust fan speed for example i would hit menu i'd scroll to fan speed and then i'd scroll the wheel to change fan speed
00:40:00
so instead of fidgeting over here on the screen yeah i'm sort of still looking at the road but i can do stuff on the
00:40:05
steering wheel and feel like i'm still in complete control and i think that's the way they
00:40:10
should have kept it the current wheel doesn't have a menu button it just has wheels that go up and down and left and
00:40:15
right and then blinkers and and steering wiper and horn and stuff like that so i
00:40:20
just would like that menu button back and just let me be able to do more on the steering more on that and now when you say all those things show up is that
00:40:27
on the directly in front of you the screen in front of you so like if that were a model three would that just come up maybe in like the top left-hand
00:40:33
corner of the yeah yeah i think so yeah that'll be easy i i love steering wheel steering wheel
00:40:39
controls i yeah mine has way too many of them i don't use half of them so i do think a
00:40:45
dial or two that you can then based on what you're pressing on the touchscreen be able to then control with a dial because almost everything we're
00:40:51
doing is up down there's not a lot of like need to go all over the place so
00:40:57
that would be awesome i think tesla i think this new model of refresh model s is the first and only car i've ever
00:41:03
driven that has not enough steering wheel controls i think every other car i've ever driven has either just the
00:41:10
right amount or too many they always put a ton of buttons on the wheel around the wheel in the middle of the wheel that'll
00:41:15
never use all the stuff and i think this is the first car even after raven model s had a nice steering
00:41:21
wheel that i really got used to with the menu button this one just not enough control so what about
00:41:27
this ditch the yoke blinker buttons add back the stock give you your menu button back
00:41:33
yeah please yeah yeah absolutely so um you can hire no you can't hire me i like
00:41:39
to shop better tesla but you know there you go free i think this all comes down to elon's infamous all input is error
00:41:45
philosophy which is that eventually he he doesn't want you to even have to press the buttons he'll get in the car
00:41:51
and it'll go oh he's cold and it'll just turn it up just it'll just know every single one of those decisions
00:41:57
theoretically he believes it should be able to make it for you it will measure the temperature of your butt and know
00:42:03
when it needs to be warmed up without you knowing and i'll tell you what if that were to actually work well in a
00:42:10
dream world i'd be very happy but tech's not that good yet so we're just sort of living through the beta phase of the car
00:42:16
not quite knowing exactly what you want and getting it wrong often yeah that's a good point but i always want my butt
00:42:21
warmer going at like 150 degrees so it's like scalding yeah um so i don't know if they'll ever pre-program that in it'll
00:42:28
learn you all right so we got to talk about some of the predictions that we made a year
00:42:34
ago about the year we just had yeah now not everything in tech is easy to
00:42:40
predict you know you start off the beginning of the year you think you have a pretty good idea of what's going to happen what you're looking forward to
00:42:46
some of it might go that way some of it might go a totally different way we actually made a bunch of smartphone
00:42:53
awards predictions at the beginning of 2021 yeah so now we can compare how it actually went with how we thought it
00:42:59
would go yeah so i listened to that episode this morning it's fantastic after knowing the year
00:43:06
that prevailed after put the episode number in the show notes yeah for sure relive it um and i'm sure adam might
00:43:12
throw a couple like clippets from that but um yeah i have the list in front of us of what we
00:43:18
picked and then we can compare it to what actually got picked let's see let's see what we were feeling back there okay
00:43:24
so we'll just start from the top i guess um so this was for this was one year ago we were predicting
00:43:30
what happened smartphones which was the video we released last month best big phone i've
00:43:36
so this right off the bat is kind of funny to me marquez guessed the rog phone four which really confused me and
00:43:42
then i realized it doesn't exist they skipped the four and one to the five yeah um and i picked the razer three
00:43:47
which was a pretty bold prediction yeah i'm obviously wrong on that one okay um that
00:43:53
one is not crazy i mean the rog phone is typically just full of features it did win runner
00:43:59
up actually yeah it was in there for best big phone so i think that was just us going uh samsung really mucked up the
00:44:05
s20 ultra they're probably not gonna be that amazing yeah that was one thing i noticed when we were i was listening to
00:44:11
it is we kept talking about like phones getting way better and we never talked about how bad the s20 was
00:44:19
yeah and never like unforgettable because it was a year before we recorded that yeah pretty much yeah and like we
00:44:25
just didn't talk about the s21 ultra for a spoiler any of these yep uh which
00:44:31
means we were very wrong if you're aware of the smartphone awards this year um all right let's go to best small
00:44:37
phone we called it small phone i think we changed it to compact this year or still small yeah um you said iphone mini
00:44:45
i did winner i predicted it would be the iphone mini you predicted it would be the z-flip yeah so that was runner-up
00:44:52
though so that was runner-up and they were very close and i think that's about as close as we probably could have possibly gotten for that yeah that's
00:44:58
probably the easiest one to guess though because there are not a lot of small phones yeah shout out to the the little
00:45:04
zen phone for pulling up yeah i really really dug that phone this year zenfone 8 right yep um best camera we both
00:45:10
picked iphone we were both right that's probably the most stable predictable like if we're predicting
00:45:16
next year like if i were to guess right now what do you think's going to win best camera i would just start with iphone and then think hmm do i think
00:45:22
anyone's going to beat them this year so i think that's the safe safe pick it's this super safe pick okay best odds for
00:45:28
sure best budget phone so you kind of made up a phone you just said the s21
00:45:33
was going to have a cheaper phone released in the lineup um
00:45:40
or no no you said actually said released later in the year so i'm assuming you kind of meant like an fever probably a
00:45:45
fan edition i was hoping for which didn't actually come out during that calendar year sadly and just came out
00:45:50
now and isn't that great yeah so um i guess the pixel 5a both wrong on that pixel 5a did turn out to be a really
00:45:57
good budget phone yes but the pixel 5 was the winner for best value
00:46:03
sorry pixel 6 was best value well yeah i guess the category changed a little bit so yeah you probably weren't thinking of
00:46:08
that i still think you know a lot of a lot of people did mention pixel 5a getting consideration for the value
00:46:14
award anyway so there's always a lot of competition as far as like odds makers
00:46:19
that's probably the one where you have the most fun betting on dark horses yeah but yeah solid in our defense we also weren't
00:46:26
expecting pixel six to come out at 6.99 and be like 5.98
00:46:31
yeah still always surprised by how good of a price that is it's good yeah yeah none of us expected that um let's see
00:46:37
best battery so you picked a safe pick and a dark horse pick you said
00:46:42
rog phone for best battery yours is your safe pick and the oneplus 9 for your dark horsepower oh wow
00:46:48
i think you're pretty wrong on the oneplus 9 one um rog probably was a runner-up if i
00:46:54
remember correctly iphone one uh iphone 13 pro max 1 best battery and the 5 000
00:47:00
milliamp hour fast charging rog phone 5 was a very close runner up yeah i guessed me 11 i don't even know why i
00:47:07
really you presented me 11 i mean they do have huge specs i mean they're they're high-end ultra version
00:47:13
of the knee 11 maybe and they're just big phones also so like it's usually big phone big battery okay this is my
00:47:18
favorite of your guesses oh my god and i have a little fun fact or a little
00:47:24
tidbit here um best design you picked at the duo two i predicted that the surface duo 2 would win best design yes
00:47:32
it was a it was a pretty solid reasoning though it was like you liked the design of the duo one and
00:47:38
you knew exactly what had to change for it or we thought we knew exactly we had to change work because it did all those
00:47:44
changes and still was very bad so um i guessed the um where are we oh i thought there was
00:47:51
going to be a smaller note 21 with flagship specs so
00:47:56
remember how the note 20 they had the ultra and the regular one but the regular one
00:48:01
with all the specs right i thought they were going to make that size but and i was very wrong on that that would have been neat we never actually got a note
00:48:08
during 2021 that would have probably been a very good contender for um
00:48:14
overall design design yeah surface 202 i'm glad i have i had that optimism back then i mean i was yeah i was looking
00:48:21
forward to it for pretty much the entire year until it came out so that is uh that's a bummer it did not win best
00:48:26
design it did not um before i voted for the note 21 i almost guessed lg wing too so i would have been
00:48:34
very wrong with you and that one as well possibly more wrong with you in that with a company that doesn't exist exactly it literally completely went
00:48:40
away um most improved you had a oneplus 9t through listening to this we kind of
00:48:47
wheeled the oneplus t into existence and it didn't work yep at all um i said z flip which i'm pretty
00:48:54
proud of that one because it did not win but it certainly was super improved it got all of the things
00:49:00
that we talked about last year yeah um that was mentioned in the video yeah yes that's a good prediction way to land
00:49:06
that one i'm pretty pumped of that one here's what's also funny is for biggest bust you also guessed duo too
00:49:12
would you nail on the head on that one despite also thinking it was gonna win the best design so yeah not a lot of
00:49:18
faith i guess um i picked a oneplus 9t as bust yeah the oneplus 9 was like sort
00:49:24
of underwhelming in middling during the year and then we never got a oneplus 9t so you could probably like shift your
00:49:30
money onto the oneplus 9 if you're like considering your bet but it didn't also win so i guess yeah it still wasn't
00:49:38
quite there um probably because the oneplus 9 just was it was fine it wasn't anything great i don't see why they
00:49:43
would make it 90 i guess unless it was better um mvp you picked a pixel six and you
00:49:49
called it the flagship so i think i would call that the pixel six pro yeah yeah um
00:49:54
i'd probably say the pixel six is closer to winning mvp and we know that s21 ultra did win um and i guess the oneplus
00:50:02
9t pro so i was very very off there we we had one plus on the mind oneplus did
00:50:07
not win any awards in the actual show the pixel 6 did win second runner-up for mvp behind the
00:50:14
iphone and the s21 ultra uh yeah this shows like basically in january of 2021 what we're thinking
00:50:22
about what just happened in the last year of phones what we were hoping for uh it's kind of funny that i put surface
00:50:27
duo 2 for best design and bust of the year yeah which is kind of interesting thinking because if you just want to
00:50:34
boil the surface duo 2 down to just the hardware design it's pretty good like it's it's a nice
00:50:40
hinge it's very it's very uh square they shrunk the bezels they made
00:50:46
the hinge so you could see a little bit from the outside i didn't like the camera bump i think they should have went with the um that like indented of
00:50:53
the opposite side so it can still fold flat because that was like the coolest part about the duo um but it still was
00:50:59
like too wide it still had big bezels despite being smaller yeah um so yeah it
00:51:04
just wasn't quite there i think it was a good pick for design it could have been updated but the fact that i also picked
00:51:10
it to be the bust shows that i didn't have much faith in the software experience so it did sort of i did sort
00:51:16
of draw the line at like hardware versus software yeah early which is interesting um you also said so i posed the question
00:51:23
for design award if the iphone 13 had no notch and 120 hertz would it win
00:51:29
you said here's the thing though iphone probably won't have a port and can i give a phone
00:51:35
without a port a design award you really think that's going to be this year i do i really do
00:51:40
yeah yeah this is uh you really were on the this is one of those things that we think apple was considering for the
00:51:47
iphone 13 line and then thought no it's not time yet and it still could happen
00:51:52
in the next one two three years we don't know but apple looking at how mag safe ecosystem is evolving looking at how the
00:51:58
whole wireless stuff that they've been building around the iphone has gotten to sort of pair
00:52:04
with it really well um and we all know that they're considering getting rid of the the port at some point yeah thought it would
00:52:10
happen last year and it didn't not quite i'm happy do you think it'll happen 2022. i'm actually not sure anymore okay
00:52:16
i am i wouldn't bet on it i think like iphone 15 might be a more reliable bet
00:52:21
for getting rid of the port okay i don't think they're anywhere closer now than they were before yeah i don't think it happens this year yeah either um and
00:52:28
then the the cream of the crop of being wrong here i specifically said that um when we were
00:52:34
talking about i think we were talking about oneplus possibly winning mvp and i said it has to be a
00:52:41
incredible phone to come out in the first half of the year and win mvp and obviously that was
00:52:48
as wrong as you can be since the s21 destroyed the entire smartphone awards and came out
00:52:53
end of january i mean you're right that the 888 plus came out and that it was technically one generation behind but it
00:52:59
didn't matter yeah like that phone came out in january as you said and held its own the entire year yeah we can't we
00:53:06
super sleeper picked the s21 ultra or just the s20 online in general because that's 20 ultra was so
00:53:13
forgettable yeah do we want to make a bunch of predictions now for next year i think so let's go a little quicker than
00:53:19
last year sure let's crank these out okay best big phone what do you think
00:53:26
i'm gonna go um it's hard to go fast though yeah i'm
00:53:32
gonna go s22 ultra or note or whatever the big one is based on the leaks i already hate
00:53:37
the design of it so okay um oh i like the note pick i'm just gonna
00:53:44
i'm gonna say asus six or rog6 okay i think the cameras have gotten so much better i think next year it's just gonna
00:53:50
be even better all right best small or compact phone oh okay i don't think there's gonna be a
00:53:56
mini next year i don't think there's gonna be a mini yeah so this is where i'm gonna go z flip i think it's e4 i think there's gonna be a new z flip and
00:54:02
it's gonna be even better and it's gonna be easily the smallest phone to qualify yeah we can probably just skip camera
00:54:07
because i think we're both best camera i'm going to go iphone just to be safe i'm pretty confident in that i hope i'm
00:54:13
wrong honestly i hope i'm wrong i hope i get surprised i would love for pixel to take the rain again i hope i get
00:54:18
surprised yeah best budget or best value award this is the hardest for sure it's tough now okay the floodgates have
00:54:25
opened for any phone of any price let's let me go uh zen phone
00:54:30
i like that choice a lot yeah i'm gonna go zenfone nine yep you're going with me on that i'm gonna
00:54:36
stick i'm gonna go with you on that one yeah okay best battery best battery i'm gonna go
00:54:44
yeah let's go i i'm gonna go iphone 314 pro max again and i think that's
00:54:50
probably to roughly match the 13 pro max do you want the duo or no no the legion
00:54:56
duo 2 it's gonna have three charging cables that's my guess yeah it is it is about
00:55:02
battery experience battery experience three four charging cables just skip double it one funny because that was
00:55:08
like it charged faster but that's not a better experience having to carry two cases um
00:55:13
design okay so here's also another thing last year you mentioned the design we were talking about foldables and how this
00:55:20
year might have to have a foldable category which i don't think we needed to but towards the end of the year start of
00:55:26
this year we've seen probably four or five new companies coming out with foldables so i do think 2022 might be
00:55:33
the year where a folding category might be worth it and so we just have a best foldable
00:55:38
category essentially something like that kind of it'll be weird if the design best design is also a foldable right but
00:55:45
i think there's credit where credit's due their best folder maybe it's a maybe it's an honorable mention in the design
00:55:51
category yeah but if we're gonna have five or six folding phones i feel like we need to put them against each other
00:55:57
well in the meantime i guess then for design i'll go a little safer
00:56:03
i don't think samsung is gonna win with that design i don't think oneplus is gonna win with that design i don't think surface is gonna win with that design i
00:56:10
don't think the flip is gonna win with the design i don't think i can give it to a phone with a notch so the iphone with the hole
00:56:17
punch hmm i don't know i have i'm either gonna go pixel seven cause i
00:56:24
think google's going something a little different this year and while i didn't love it it feels like they're thinking
00:56:29
outside the box or it's going to be like the find x4 or the like reno something oppo's just been
00:56:36
killing it with hardware and i love their hardware so much that's a really good picture so find x4 might be my my
00:56:42
choice for design then i'll go pixel seven okay cool yeah so most improved
00:56:48
most improved now let's think because we really screwed this one up last year yeah what
00:56:55
was not great this year i that we think has a chance okay i'm gonna go with oneplus
00:57:00
[Music] i don't know see the thing about oneplus 9 pro is like it was like a it was a
00:57:06
solid phone solid space i've used it for a really long time use it for a while decent enough camera like really fast
00:57:12
charging their software experience like with this whole oppo merger thing they're doing i don't really have the
00:57:18
utmost faith in that and that was actually a big part of why oneplus phones were so good and they're like
00:57:23
losing that now which is weird so i'm gonna take that back i was i saw the spec sheet for the oneplus 10 pro and i
00:57:30
really like it and 80 watt charging seems great but then the software i don't know most improved didn't the spec sheet say
00:57:37
oxygen os 12 even though they said they're moving to color os i don't remember i don't think i saw i
00:57:42
think i just said the android version okay who's going to improve the most
00:57:47
i have my guess pixel 7 pro pixel 7 pro pixel 7 pros yeah i guess yeah because i
00:57:53
think there's almost no reason to get the pro over the regular right now and i think next year they're going to realize that and actually make
00:58:00
a big jump between them which will be awesome because then you'll have the cheaper version and the like pro pro
00:58:05
flagship yeah if it goes up in price that will kind of i think if they if they keep the same
00:58:12
price but really improve like all the things that were kind of weak about the pixel 6 pro i could win
00:58:18
for sure okay uh bust of the year predictions this early it's
00:58:23
just a shot in the dark and let's say don't pick 203 okay
00:58:29
okay so then you have to look at okay what's
00:58:34
the what are the gaming phones gonna do or like what did really well this year that you think is not gonna follow up on
00:58:40
the hype can i just i feel like poco in general has just
00:58:47
i don't know if that's let me just go super pessimistic super early s 21 fe
00:58:53
oh that's a great guess but because we know it because the only thing that i've seen come out this year and it's sort of just
00:59:00
gonna be forgotten in a month so that's that's the best i got right now i think that's a good one i don't want to agree
00:59:06
with you uh i kind of i agree with you but i want to pick something different i will go
00:59:11
oh man one plus i don't know that seems crazy
00:59:16
i almost wanted to say poco as a whole almost should have just kind of won bust of last year because i really
00:59:23
think they've just lost their core audience there's 70 of them now i miss dude i looked through our phone drawer
00:59:28
and there were seven one or seven pocophones in there from this year
00:59:34
i think at least i mean maybe one or two were from last year but it's just like man what happened to just super hyped
00:59:39
singular phone into just like five or seven phones that like i feel
00:59:44
like not a lot of people really ask about it what's the bo burnham line we'll stop beating this dead horse when it stops spitting out money yeah yeah i
00:59:51
think that's probably what's happening that's they well they started beating it really killed it and beat it really fast
00:59:56
um i don't know biggest bust
01:00:02
three is there gonna be a razer razer phone three no no no but no motorola razor three oh
01:00:10
you could go with that okay all right mvp mvp pick for 2021 in january
01:00:18
just looking into my crystal ball right now we see what samsung's doing the design not so popular but still gonna
01:00:23
have a lot i really don't like that by the way yeah what the the leak of like each individual individual camera how do
01:00:29
you go from so beautiful to that the regular s21
01:00:34
or s22 is going to have a more traditional like cut out oh yeah okay so that's solid i could win
01:00:42
uh that's a good point people were making the argument for the regular s21s to win
01:00:48
design or or even just phone of the year i like that they always get kind of lost
01:00:55
i'm gonna stick with my optimism and go pixel 7 pro i almost want to hope a note comes back
01:01:00
and does really really well but i really think it's the end of the note and we'll see i think the note's gone i
01:01:07
think the s pen and the s20s and the s versions are just going to be what happens and we're considering do you
01:01:12
consider the note gone if they call it the s22 note it comes with the stylus inside i don't
01:01:19
even want to think about it okay uh the note edition yeah
01:01:25
i don't love that no it isn't the name what is the the samsung galaxy s20
01:01:32
ultra or s22 ultra note edition it's just got the stylus built in remove
01:01:37
100 million powers of your battery boom s pen right there that's it that's the only change it
01:01:43
would honestly be a good phone i just would hate the name so much um
01:01:49
i'm just gonna go s22 plus or whatever i like that yeah
01:01:54
yeah okay all right wasn't that much shorter but there we have it yeah that's uh that's your predictions it's been a
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long episode but listen there's a lot of stuff upcoming this year obviously ces presents a challenge for uh covering all
01:02:06
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