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You either have one or two alarms or you have entirely too many alarms. How many alarms do you have in your clock app right now? You want to see? I feel like I know which one you are.
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Just based on the way you ask me that, I feel like I know which one you are. I feel like you do before you even ask the question.
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Yo, what's up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez.
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I'm Andrew. And I'm David. And this week, you know, I just watched a video about my own voice that someone
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else made on YouTube. And now I hear my own voice differently in this microphone. And I'm trying to ignore that. Anyway,
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this week there's a whole bunch of tech stuff. We're recording this right before
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uh iPhone event and Galaxy Unpacked. So, by the time you hear this, one of those has happened. One of those is about to
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happen. Uh there's also some more Pixel 10 camera stuff we want to talk about along with a Sony Xperia 7 debacle and
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we also have uh peak smartphone season like just it's just here on the horizon. It's right it's about to
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happen. It's next week. I mean it's yeah techtotember. It's September. Yeah it's September which is very exciting. Uh so yeah we can sort of just jump right into that.
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Do you know how we know this is peak smartphone season? How the whole crew is back today? Oh,
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we are actually all here. We did it back. We are recording on a Tuesday because you would have been out tomorrow, but
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still not back to normaly, but not quite. But all five of us are here. As close as it's ever been.
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No random Mariah or Miles jumping in without an introduction 15 minutes into the episode. And there's two there.
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Everybody who ordered a Pixel 10 now has it. That's true. Mhm. Including Adam over there. Is that a
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Mags Safe wallet, by the way? That is a Mag Safe wallet. Mag Pixel Snap wallet. No, not
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officially. Probably not. Not officially. It's probably a max that has patina. It's got Apple logo on it. I'm using it with my No, no. This one is a distill union.
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So, I've I've had it for a couple years. It's got some nice patina, but it works with Pixel Snap. Branding on branding on
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branding. Snap. So, you're using No Case on your phone? No Case. How is How's the No Case Pixel 10 Life?
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So much better. Are you the one that bought that like really thin magnet to put on your Galaxy Fold?
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Yes, I did. The stickers, but those they work until they don't. Yeah, that's kind of a hack. Yeah, the Pixel 10 does have stabilizing
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magnets that actually make sure that things stay in place. So, nice. That is better. Adam, you you were sick last week.
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I was. And you told a pretty funny pixel story in the kitchen earlier. Yeah. About while you were sick.
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Yeah. I found the one person in the world who used the temperature sensor on the Pixel 10 Pro and it is I because last week I was sick and I was sitting in my room bored and I had a
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thermometer in one hand and a Pixel in the other. I'm like, you know what? Let's see how close they get. How close within a degree.
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So, it wasn't bad. The the actual thermometer said 99. The phone said 98. So, it was like
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Is it officially rated for humans yet? Cuz I remember when it came out it was not. Okay. It's rated for humans. I don't know what
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rated for humans means, but it does work on when it first came out on like the 8 Pro or whatever phone got it. It was like
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you can't officially use this on people. I think it wasn't one of the options to like Yeah, now there's an option for human.
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It got the right IP rating. Yeah, it's people. It is funny because 98 is you're fine.
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99 is you're not fine. It's literally almost fine. Almost got it. Yeah. And and we say that Fahrenheit is better because of its uh nuance. Fair enough. Now, Andrew, you also have
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your Pixel 10. You have your your lemongrass. My lemongrass. I realized we convinced everyone in the studio to call it lemon
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cello cuz we were calling it that for so long. It used to be called that. Yeah. Non-Pixel users in the studio were
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like I think Tim came up to me. He's like, "What is it actually called?" Because I've been hearing Lemonchello non-stop,
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but I do. Beautiful yellow person. It's even worse. in a blue case right now just until I get my I'm specifically
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getting a ghost case for this color because Okay, clear. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, it's definitely not
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15% of my diet is I really wish I could criticize you um publicly, but I can't because I have
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grass on my laptop and it's just, you know, I could say that's ugly, but it's a nice compare. They they go well together. It's a good opportunity for me to show you the best color. Yeah, that's the
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best which is I'm still using the Moonstone 10 Pro and I actually ended the video with a
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real prediction for how I think this is going to go. I'm going to switch and I have currently using this phone. I got my ESA in it and everything as my daily
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driver. And then within 4 months, I will get really annoyed with something hardware related, probably the cameras
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or battery, and I will switch to a new phone that has way better cameras or battery. And then I will get really
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annoyed with that phone's worse software, and I'll switch back to the Pixel. And then I'll get really annoyed with the way the Pixel is aging and I'll
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switch back to something else. And that'll all happen within about 12 months. Okay. And then the new versions of both those
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phones will come out and the cycle just keep going. You do have the the XL though, so if you
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get annoyed with battery, you can at least Well, I have it, but I'm using the regular. But yeah, I guess the XL thing is the XL has a 2 or.3 inch bigger
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screen. It only has a 200 mAh larger battery. But it charges quicker. That's fair. Yeah. And
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with Mag, right? Cuz it's G22. It charges wired faster as well. It's wired faster, too. Yeah. 45 versus 35.
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Um, can I talk about a complaint I have with this? Yes, you can. It is extremely specific, but feels
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dumbfoundingly stupid. Okay. I have plenty of other complaints trying to like get from my my Samsung S24 to
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this phone in terms of like the customization. Um, but a lot of them were just like weird little things. Um,
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like the search bar being under the doc before it was switched. I had my doc first with the search bar above it. You
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cannot change that. Um, I can get used to that. Still at a glance can't. You can turn at a glance off, but you still lose the screen real estate. Stays there. But my biggest complaint is in this search bar if you
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want to try and customize it, which is something you can sort of can do. Um, if you've ever been to your Google
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settings, you can play along with me if you'd like. Um, go to your Google at home.
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Go to your Google settings while you're driving. Huh. There's a whole box called customize search widget.
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Right? You see this? Okay. For those of you who aren't pixel users, the search bar on the bottom of a pixel is it has to stay there. It's baked in.
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You can only change it from light and dark mode. But in this customized search widget, you can do light, dark device,
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which does it in theme colors of like material U expressive. That's cool. Really cool. Really on brand for what
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they're doing. You can even do custom colors. You can change the transparency. Oh, of the bar itself. You can change. So, there's the microphone icon, Google Lens
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icon, and now it's been adding one to the right, which you can change the shortcut. Okay. Different things. Want to know what this
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does? This adds another widget to your home screen instead of actually changing Wait, so you the search bar on the bottom. So you can't and you can't
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you can't change the search bar on the bottom. It's just device theme. Light or dark
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can't change the shortcut. Oh, now if you want to do all those cool changes, that's
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another widget because everybody wants two search bars on their phone. I mean, who am I? Yeah, don't you?
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This makes no This is really stupid. a screenshot of that to Adam. No. Yeah, that is actually kind of dumb.
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This is Yeah. Expressive. It's expressive, Andrew. It literally does all the things about the new software and material 3 expressive except you can't
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I thought you I thought you'd found a setting where you could change the settings of that bottom search bar. I was like, whoa, that's actually pretty
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great. You want to express yourself by having two search bars for no reason? I'm just going to do a whole page full
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of different themed search bars. Lean into it. I like that. Be nice. So, yeah. I I think my final thought is as much as I'm excited to be on Pixel, I am enjoying it. Um
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I kind of think One UI is more customizable than this UI. Yeah, they I think Samsung,
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even One Plus's software, whatever oxygen OS home screens, like they'll all find little things to throw in to let you tweak their home screen more, but they're not expressive. And is my
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expression not customizable? No. Yeah, there's Yeah, there's just and some little less little less you can do
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on the pixel. 30% less. This is what they meant when they said there was a 30% jump in rebelliousness.
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They were rebelling against you messing with your rebelling against freedom. Um, that made me really sad. Yeah, that just feels really stupid. Please fix that. I would love for my search bar
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to look how it went back down to like 10% rebelliousness. Yeah, stupid. Stupid. Okay. Well, also that was fun for you. It was a joy.
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Oh my god. Um, I have other pixels something in here if you guys want to talk about it. And this was uh we posted our review.
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Lots of other people posted their reviews. A lot of comments I saw on ours and others and articles and people have
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done videos on this is people asking if the Pixel 10 base is worse than the Pixel 9 base phone, specifically about
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their cameras because it seems as though the Pixel 10 has new sensor. They have three cameras, but the main uh wide is a 48 megapixel f1.7
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over two inch sensor. Is that half inch? Yeah. when it used to be 50 megapixels, 1.7 one over one and 1.3
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inch sensor. I'm terrible at the vocabulary here, but um it's the Pixel 9a camera sensor.
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Yeah, essentially. Um I do have the base version, but I didn't use a Pixel 9 to compare to. So, yeah. So, in theory, if you had a Pixel 9 and upgraded to a Pixel 10, you are
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sacrificing some camera quality to get the rest of the upgrades of the Pixel 10,
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which does not look good on paper. That's an easy headline. That does not look great. Um, in my head, it feels like there were
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people at uh Google who were like, "How do we further separate the Pixel 10 and 10 Pro?" And they're like, "Well, we'll
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use the 9a cameras in the 10 and then some bigger sensors in the 10 Pro." And that's probably what they did just to
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make it a little bit more recognizable of a difference. It's still not very much of a difference between those phones, but that is definitely a bummer.
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If you had a Pixel 9 and you specifically love the cameras, you would like the 10's cameras less.
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Yeah. 95 Google did a video on it and they actually had like an insert right before they posted it of some camera
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comparisons and it was looking good almost better in a lot of photos until it hit low light and it seems like the
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low light capabilities of the Pixel 10 wide versus the Pixel 9 wide. That's what'll happen.
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Yep. Was like pretty rough. Some some of the glare issues were like it looked like the Pixel 10 had like a stigmatism.
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I have seen more I was going to I didn't mention it in my 10 Pro review but there was more glare in the 10 Pros camera
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than last year also which was interesting cuz you know how the iPhone at night when you ever shoot video with like point lights there's crazy glare I
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started to get that during the daytime with the Pixel although it was a car headlight so like it wasn't insane but
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it was still more than I expected interesting anamorphic more anti-flare coatings
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you think this is going to be a trend moving forward where the base model will always have the a versions sensor of the
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previous generation? I don't think so. I think that's going to be a uniquely Pixel thing because the
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Pixel is almost uniquely lacking in the hardware department compared to some other more competitive flagships. I
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think it would be really weird if the iPhone uh 17 had the the what is it the E the
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16 E camera. Oh, no. But well, that's a good point. But I was asking about the Pixel specific.
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Oh, and the Pixel I could see the Pixel continuing. I could see it because they need to order a bunch of those sensors for the A series and if they can use
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some of those for the the next line then it's useful for them. They save a lot of money that way. Yeah. So,
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I think this is a perfect example of like it it calls back to the event of how much it was for like the masses that
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they were willing to sacrifice sensor quality for the third camera on the base because the people who are buying those are probably the like not us. Well,
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except for me. I guess I'm an idiot, but um couldn't be me. But like, yeah, most people aren't going
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to be like, "Oh, that sensor is smaller." They're going to be like, "Oh, there's a third camera on and that sounds great." I don't know about you guys. I've been
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using it for a couple weeks and I feel like the pro features that they are adding are very cool and the team is going hard like adding all these manual controls and manual mode and stuff, but
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I feel like the processing every year is getting further and further away from the iPhone. Like I feel like the iPhone
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is just starting to run away with it, especially in video obviously because the iPhone has always been ahead in video. But like
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I would rather use like halli on an iPhone and take a straight raw photo and edit that. And those raws look better to me than the RAWs out of the Pixel. Yes, cuz the RAW can the Pixel can do native
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RAW. They can it can save a sub subsequent RAW plus JPEG. Uh but the RAWs out of the iPhone look way better than they do out of the Pixel. Pixel 6 RAW looked freaking awesome.
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Yeah. And then it's just gotten worse since then for some reason. I don't know why they started doing the
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the whole Pro Raw thing though. I think that that's probably why like they don't call it Pro Raw, but they have like a merged like some processing in the RAW
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on the Pixel. Yeah, they started that in the 8 Pro. Yeah. I also think that I mean if you
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just look at straight like point andoot process photos, the iPhone I mean video it's not really a contest. The iPhone's just been that much better. But in in flat photos from the iPhone, they just
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keep they just keep flattening everything out still. And the Pixel still has the look of like the contrast. Yeah. Like they
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still have the confident like you know contrast contrast. But yeah, you look at that from these bigger newer sensors versus how it used to look when they were using those older
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smaller sensors and it's it's a it definitely changed. It's just not quite as natural feeling anymore. Yeah, 100%.
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It's good thing I take all my pictures on mirrorless. Well, good. You're Yeah, it's soon going to be uh Would you like to explain? Well, you know, I I did it.
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You really This is news to us. You said it this morning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, when does it get here? Well, can you explain for those? I was I watched I what I did was I had a couple
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flights and I downloaded a whole bunch of Hasselblad X2D Mark II reviews to watch on the plane. Yeah, that's a good idea.
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I watched all the reviews and everyone was like, "It's a great camera, Marquez." And I was like, "Yeah, you right."
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So, I went back to my B&H tab and I hit checkout. So, uh I think midepptember is
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when I'm supposed to get my X2D Mark II. I I did I did end up buying it X23 and I'm very very very excited about it and I also got the 30 the 35 to 100.
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I was just going to ask what lens compact lens. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's not going to be compact. This is a this is a big I mean
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if you if you watch these reviews like a lot of them are coming from people who have shot a lot of Hasselblad in the
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past and there's they're you know I'm baddies. That's what we call I'm jogging my memory of all the previous times I've
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been when I heavily used the Hasselblad cameras, which is like, okay, the autofocus is slow. It's single shot.
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It's going to slow you down. The shutter is going to slow you down. The whole big clunkiness of this camera is going to
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slow you down, but the files are going to be so worth it. And the RAWs are so detailed, and it's going to be great. But it's like I wouldn't want to shoot, you know, regular point and shoot, running gun,
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anything else with this. This is just like I found a bug on a pedal and this is I have 30 minutes. I got to I got to
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get one photo out of this. Right. So, all the reviews are talking about how that was always true and it felt kind of
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like an excuse or a crutch. And all the things that they added to this camera, the much better autofocus, they added
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LAR, which works in conjunction with the phase detect and the contrast autofocus. It's much better. There's also AI, eye
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detection, vehicle detection, face detection, pet detection, and continuous autofocus, most importantly, which makes it incredibly easy to literally point and shoot and track moving objects on a
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medium format 10 stop ibis 100 megapixel shot. I'm I'm glad that you've uh figured out an excuse. Yeah, cuz it was it was always going to happen. When are we going to start shooting videos on it?
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Yeah, it literally doesn't shoot video. There's no video mode at all. It would be I bet it would look sick.
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At least they officially just scrapped the video mode because on the X1D it said video coming soon since the
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beginning and they never added it. Are you serious? Yeah. Wasn't there a physical button too?
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Uh I think maybe I think there was a switch or something on it. Yeah. Yeah. I think a long if you go back long enough there was like a video switch and
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you'd switch it and it would just go not yet. Yeah. Like video coming later and it just
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never came later. Yeah. Yeah. And eventually they're just like, "Yeah, that ain't us." Yeah. But I do think video from a medium
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format sensor with 10 stops of IBIS would look I mean I shoot video on my um GF GFX 100 Mark II. Do lenses like cooperate with that? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't need
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autofocus. Oh yeah. Well, imagine if you also had autofocus. That'd be pretty crazy. And my
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grandmother had wheels. She walked up and down the street in the snow in her bare feet. Yeah. After our conversation last week about cameras, I've been on like every used
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looking at either whatever I can find first basically MSRP of like a GR3 or a X100. Look at all you guys becoming. We've only I've only had to sit next to
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you for like six years. First I got Ellis, then we had Adam and you guys are Wow. Yeah. I poked rich this morning. I was
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like that Fuji hasn't moved in a while. If you ever want to sell it, let me know. It really has not. That's been sitting
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there for a long time. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm glad you guys are on team. Uh I just use my phone still image. I It's fun to just like pay attention to taking the photo. Also, it's fun taking
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pictures of Lane if I'm being completely honest. I'll borrow the X2D one day. Honestly, that's a good test.
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Print it out life. Yeah, it's a good test. I mean the I would not want a photo that high resolution of me as a baby.
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Yeah. When she grows up, she's going to be like, "Whoa." No. When she grows up, she'll be like,
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"Why does this look so bad?" Oh, true. Yeah. But we can also talk about uh this upcoming Samsung event which has uh some phones and tablets. It's no longer upcoming when you're
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listening and watching this. Didn't they just do an event? Yes, they did. There's another one happening
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and they're both unpacked. Oh, it's Teember. Come on. We know for sure. Is this your first TechTember album? I don't remember. This is my This is my fourth Teember with you, Marquez. I
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think I do not remember Samsung hitting us with a one two ever. This is a pretty unique one too. Yeah.
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Um Yeah, they're doing the FE the S25 FE. Essentially a cheaper way to get the S25 experience, but yeah, cheaper. And so
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they've made a couple sacrifices to get it to to be a lower price. It's an Exonos chip. That's kind of the main thing. Uh it's an Exonos 2400, I
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believe, if my notes are correct. And it's $6.49. Wow. So if you are willing to go $150 cheaper
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on a brand new phone from Samsung and you want essentially the S25 experience, you still get a 50 megapixel main camera
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and then a 12 megapixel ultrawide and an 8 megapixel 3x telephoto. It's still IP68, same materials as the S25s. It's
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7.4 and 4 mm thin. It's the same software. It's 1 UI8 at launch. It's got all the AI stuff. It's just a little
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cheaper. Little cheaper. And that's the S25 FE. Yeah. Um the one thing we don't know is
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whether or not the Trifold was announced yesterday. Yeah, that could be a surprise announcement. If it is, um
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all the rumors I'm reading today on Tuesday say don't expect it this week. Okay. Um except we are supposed to get one by the end of the year. according to Samsung. Month or year?
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The year according to Samsung. According to Samsung, month according to the rumors rumors. Oh, you don't think they could announce it
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and be like it's coming early next year or something like that or it's going to be out out by the end of this year?
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Yeah, they didn't I thought they said coming by end of this year or coming this year. Yeah, they announce it.
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I want it. Well, I would assume that ships I would assume that ships, not just announces. I
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could see it maybe getting announced at the end of Friday's event or like teased one more thing Thursday,
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but honestly like October is pretty What events are coming up in October? None that we know of, right? Get their
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own month. Well, in September, we've probably got the Meta glasses. That's like in a that's like a rumor.
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Well, the Meta Connect is is in September is midepptember. Um I don't know. I would launch it in October. The iPhone September. Oh yeah,
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I'd go next week. Damn, we got three dense weeks here. Yeah, it's September. Yes. Well, what if Apple announces the Samsung
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Trifold at their event? One more thing. One more thing. Didn't expect that. One more thing. Samsung has innovated.
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Yeah. I mean, Google would announce the Samsung Trifold at a Google event to be honest. Oh, triggered my Gemini.
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Sorry, you woke her up. What triggered Gemini? Oh, just Google to sleep. Do you think that the Samsung trifold will be up to par with what we've seen so far from
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Huawei? Yeah, it'll be better. You think it'll be better? You don't think they're playing catch-up? The Huawei one, I feel like I'm going to
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break every time I open it because it opens a weird way. Don't they have a new one now? They do, but it's the same XT.
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Yeah, I Yeah, I kind of get the same feeling using the Huawei one. Sometimes you use a device and you just get the
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feeling that this one was designed to be first. Yeah. Yeah, just as long as it's good enough to get out first, it'll come out.
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Like the what was the first foldable phone that technically the Royal Royal Flex Spy
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over here. That was like crack crack when you would open it and like Yeah. So, it kind of has similar vibes. I do think Samsung is working on a little bit more of a conservative like
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timeline where hopefully their thing is really really solid and they're going to have a bigger possible customer base to ship to and they're going to
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well I mean in the US I guess Huawei ships a lot of phones already so it's not totally different but I do think they'll be a little better
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with their trifold. How much you think the Samsung one's going to cost? Oh good question. Well, so I guess you could just do reductive math. If you
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just think S25s are right around a,000 and then ZFold 7s are dual screen and right around 2,000. So it's now you're going to get,000 probably somewhere around 3,000.
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Jeez, can you imagine? But then you don't need a laptop. [Laughter] That's the goal. Dexam. Yeah, Adam. Listen, I love Dex, but I'm
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not replacing my laptop with Putting Dex on that thing feels pointless because its whole point is to
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have a giant screen. Yeah, it'll unfold it to like a like a 9 in screen. We're going to have those like tanning
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reflectors like as our full Dude, this trifold is going to be bigger than the original uh the original Huawei
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or no, Asus uh Nexus 7. You're doing great. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Uh the ZFold's already bigger than Nexus 7. It's going to be bigger than the Nexus 10.
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Oh, okay. No, it won't be. But I really like the Nexus 10. Yeah, me too. Dual front-facing speakers, little soft
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touch back. Bring it back, baby. Antennas in the plastic at the top. A lot of money.
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Dang. Yeah. Okay. No support. Well, all of this info has already come out, so we're behind. I I'm sorry. We're supposed to be on the
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cutting edge. We are currently on the uh the zipping edge. And that's my bed. Yeah, we're closing it up. The Nice. I was going to ask. That's good. That's good. The zipping edge.
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The zipping edge. Well, you know what else is kind of zippy? How fast we're about to do trivia?
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No. Are we? I messed this up last week. Oh, are we not doing trivia? No. Yeah. Why not? Hit it, Alice. All right. What?
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I didn't mess it up this week. Okay. Uh, so Andrew, as you mentioned earlier, uh, you guys confuse the heck out of everyone in the office calling that thing lemon cello when it's actually
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lemongrass. However, that is not the most annoying name swap, color name, colorway, branding exercise action that Google's ever done. Because
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in the history of Pixeldom, there have been not one, not two, but three orange Google pixels.
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[Music] Orange or yellow? Orange. Yeah, I remember one of them. Two of them. Like, does this is this considered orange to you? Is the salmon one orange? Is this considered orange to you?
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Why would that be considered orange? Why aren't you pointing to blue? No, the inside. No, it's yellow.
00:25:55
Ellis, is lemonchello orange to you? I don't know, David. Is lemonchello orange to you? No, but I'm asking a clarifying question.
00:26:07
In what world? Take me through the thought process. We have disagreed on crazier things.
00:26:15
That's all I'm saying. Anyway, Pixel has released Okay. three orange phones in the history of
00:26:21
Pixeldom. Mhm. Uh, I need you to give me all three names for orange. Is it one point each? Yes, there are three points to be awarded with this question. Is orange and pink the same thing,
00:26:33
dude? There is definitely like a scanning one. I'm telling you. Well, I'm just saying.
00:26:39
Yeah, I guarantee you when you read us the answers, one of them is going to be pink. David,
00:26:44
I guarantee. Well, actually, I'll argue that it's okay. is the Pixel 6 color, which I will
00:26:52
not say the name of right now. Do you want that to qualify as an orange? No. Mhm. Yep. I want the availability of the
00:26:59
point. Yeah. It's not getting you negative. It's fine. It's fine. I've been out voted. It's fine. It's okay. All right.
00:27:05
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All right, welcome back. We've got a big Apple rumor roundup we're going to get into, but since we're talking about
00:29:36
iPhones, I saw something funny on reals and then I've seen it all over the internet since I think David, you said
00:29:41
you saw it already. I also saw it. Yeah. Um, have you seen this iPhone alarm app
00:29:47
thing? No one's or can you unlock your iPhone? I want to show it to you. Bang. Okay, so we're going to go into the
00:29:52
alarms. You're going to start a new one and I want you to scroll and just keep scrolling on the hour
00:29:59
side. Oh, I saw this. of the app. Just keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Marquez is scrolling.
00:30:05
Keep going. It's just 1 through 12 over. Keep going. Just keep going as fast as you can. This
00:30:12
is riveting. There it is. And it stops. It is not a circle. It is just a really, really long list of numbers 1 through 12
00:30:21
in the alarm. Why is this so concerning? Why is this really concerning? That's when you know all technology is just a series of small pins stacked on top of each other.
00:30:32
This is held together with a duct tape. Yeah. And Sam thinks we're close to AGI.
00:30:39
They can't even make a circle. Wow. That's really funny. Yeah. Is it a minute the same way you think or No,
00:30:49
I don't know. Is it the minutes? I just saw that. I'm not sure. I'm not willing to try. I really want to know why they did that.
00:30:56
If you write code specifically for the Apple Clock app, there has to be a reason. Yeah, there's I mean, it's probably just
00:31:01
easier. But Oh, it stopped. The minutes end, too. The minutes end. 4:39. The list ends at 39.
00:31:07
Imagine. And PM. Is that when is that when the world ends? Is that like the May the secret Mayan calendar?
00:31:13
4:39. It's the secret Mayan clock hidden in the iPhone. I wonder I wonder if it was just a just
00:31:18
a placeholder. I think what happened companies do that a lot these days. I bet you what happened was that the
00:31:24
iPhone, the original iPhone, they like didn't yet have a way to just make it circular, which I don't see why they wouldn't have to be honest. But yeah, what I will say it's probably a remnant
00:31:34
from that and nobody ever realized that it was that way still and they just never changed it.
00:31:40
You only just now in iOS 26 just got the ability to change your snooze duration to not be 9 minutes. Okay. It's been a decade of the clock app.
00:31:50
Wait, the snooze was default 9 minutes. That feels like an insane. It's been 9 minutes. For everyone who's
00:31:56
ever had an iPhone for the entire history of time until iOS 26, the entire history of the So, anytime anyone's ever snoozed an
00:32:02
iPhone, their auto like brain memory added 9 minutes at a time. And that's kind of just like the way it was for forever. And you just got the ability to choose snooze duration in the iPhone.
00:32:13
No, it makes hear me out. You never set an alarm for an like it's always there's a five or a zero in the minutes, right?
00:32:19
Correct. Okay. And there therefore with 9 minutes of snooze, you have 60 seconds left to
00:32:25
get out of bed at a round number. Exactly. Twice. Then you have 2 minutes. And by the time you hit snooze, a few seconds has also gone by and then you
00:32:36
got to get out of bed. So when you're actually standing up, it will be 10 minutes later. As someone who hit snooze
00:32:41
twice this morning, if you're hitting snooze twice, you're not serious enough to even be thinking about round numbers.
00:32:46
Okay, my hot take is we shouldn't have snooze buttons. Dude, that is a hot take. You need more Yeah, cuz you need more
00:32:52
urgency. Are you okay? There's can't remember the last time I snoozed. Well, I'm sorry. Is urgency orange? Um, I think it's sand. I was going to say before we get into
00:33:03
these rumors, there's two types of people and I would I would like to hear from each of you which type of person you are. Okay. You either have one or two alarms
00:33:10
or you have entirely too many alarms. How many alarms do you have in your clock app right now? You want to see? I feel like I know which one you are.
00:33:23
Just based on the way you asked me that, I feel like I know which one you are. I feel like you knew before you even asked the question.
00:33:31
And Andrew, you used to be one, but now I'm not sure. Well, the funny thing is is I had a lot of alarms, but none of
00:33:36
them were for waking up. They were just my my like test. I did delete a bunch last week cuz I had
00:33:42
a bunch of the same ones. Okay, these are these are the ones I have right now, which is like eight. Um,
00:33:48
that's not horrible. Two of them say move car. One of them says switch to nice. Uh, one of them says get up. One of them says alarm. Okay. Yeah,
00:34:00
I have three right now, but these are very old. it. One says New Balance, one says dates for waveform, and one says
00:34:06
fire tim. Okay, good. Because do I understand? Are you saying like in the morning when you wake up, you have it like an alarm like every 3
00:34:16
minutes going off? Are you specifically talking about how with the iPhone you have to create an alarm and then it gets added to a bank and then even if it's
00:34:23
not active, it doesn't get deleted until you physically delete it? So, it's part that, but it's also part like there are people who are just like,
00:34:29
I'm going to take a nap. Let me just set an alarm for 12 420 or I'm going to go remind myself with this alarm and you
00:34:35
just start stacking alarms and you never delete any of them. That's what you're talking about. What about timers? I thought you were talking alarms cuz I have a bunch of timers.
00:34:42
That's fine. That's fine. Alarms is crazy. Marquez, let me go get my phone. Hold on. I thought Marquez, I thought
00:34:47
you meant you're either someone who has one alarm and you like wake up immediately or you're someone who knows
00:34:53
when the alarm hits you're going to like delete like stop it and you have like 10 alarms set up for the next hour. It's
00:34:58
another duality of men. Uh there I usually snooze once every day. I don't Yeah. I'm a non-neoozer. Well, also I have another alarm called Lane and it's a lot harder to snooze
00:35:12
her. Fair enough. Yeah. My take is that we shouldn't have a snooze function because the entire
00:35:17
point of the alarm is to wake up. And and when if I wake up and then snooze, if I sleep for 10 more minutes, I feel more tired than the first time I woke up. Mhm. It's always a trap.
00:35:28
So, just get up when your alarm goes off like you're supposed to. That's the entire point of the alarm. You sound like me like a month ago when
00:35:35
I was arguing about discipline on the phone. I Yeah. Remember that. Yeah, I do. I don't disagree with you.
00:35:42
I don't disagree with you. No, I agree. Cuz I have no discipline. The thing that I do is put the phone on
00:35:48
the other side of the room. So, you have to get up to go turn it off. And at that point, Yeah. I'm not saying I do this better cuz what I do is I wake up and
00:35:55
then I fall back asleep, right? I don't get out of bed, okay? Like I just don't think that we should
00:36:01
have the capability to I also think humans like naturally uh become more comfortable with whatever is
00:36:07
happening in their surroundings. So I'm curious if that's ever backfired where the alarm across the room one day just
00:36:13
isn't enough to get you out of bed. No, it's it's really annoying every time. Especially because I I live
00:36:19
with my fiance obviously, so I have to get up before she yells at you. She'll be pissed. Okay, it does backfire sometimes though when
00:36:25
it's like a weekend and I forgot to like set it off and it goes off at like 5:00 a.m. or like if you have a Monday one,
00:36:31
yesterday was Labor Day. Like I had things like notifying me that were normal workday things. I love waking up at normal time on a
00:36:38
holiday. It's and then realizing you get to go back to sleep. doesn't I'll say I love my watch alarm, but if I
00:36:46
happen to be sleeping at like the perfect point where my hands are close enough together, like under my pillow on
00:36:52
my stomach or something and the alarm goes off, I think just like second nature hits the button immediately and then it's an hour
00:36:59
past when I'm supposed to wake up and that's bad news. Wait, while Ellis tells us about his alarms, we also need to check in on his
00:37:05
battery life. Well, were you charging? I just charged my phone. You ruined the bit and it's still only
00:37:10
80. It's it's it's it's less than 80. How long were you charging it for? I started charging it right before we started taping. So, at 2 uh so it's been on the charger for an
00:37:22
hour and it was off the charger between 8:30 and it should be full. It should be full. By the way, Peter McKinnon on Threads two nights ago was like, "Just found the
00:37:36
iPhone mini in my drawer. Insane that Apple made this. I kind of want to use it again." Anybody else there using
00:37:41
this? And I wanted to tag Ellis, but he doesn't have a thread. Not on threads. Yeah. 76%.
00:37:47
Okay. Really? Uh, damn. How many alarms do you have? Okay. So, I just want to say
00:37:52
I don't I don't set any alarms. Like I use the iPhone's wake up wake up time. Like like my phone has an alarm. It my builtin it turns off notifications at 11:15 and an alarm goes off at 7:30.
00:38:05
Okay. Every day. Mhm. But no other alarm. Only one alarm needed. Wait, what about when you have other stuff going on?
00:38:11
They need an alarm for Yeah. Do you use like the reminders app or anything? Oh lord.
00:38:16
No wonder your battery doesn't Oh my god. Ellis is the more I got so tired of having to create an alarm for every random time that I needed stuff.
00:38:27
That's so much harder that I just leave it I leave an alarm for pretty much every minute of the day until the evening. I know people like
00:38:35
this and I'm like I don't know when you have to scroll to find the right alarm. I just feel like that's too much.
00:38:40
No, no, no. When you create an alarm, you got to scroll through that end that that not endless list. It's the same
00:38:45
thing. It's I'm just scrolling once instead of on three different sliders. Wisella is here for making fun of me for folders on my dock.
00:38:52
No. Oh, you're going to make fun of me because of the I'm not going to cuz you didn't make fun
00:38:57
of me. Let me hear No, please. I was just going to say one of those things is more insane and it's the
00:39:03
one of those things is more insane. What you owe you you look at your doc every time you go to your home screen. I never
00:39:09
set alarms. I guess that would kind of benefit. Yeah, I feel like you all the time.
00:39:15
Looks like you set them a lot. Wow. Soon you guys are going to make fun of me cuz all the lead in my apartment or something. Some of the uh some of the alarm names
00:39:22
are pretty good, too. I don't know what they're about in retrospect. You have a 4 a.m., a 4:07 a.m., a 4:20 a.m.
00:39:28
Because I I don't want to create a new alarm for every So much nuance. 5:00 5:06
00:39:35
506. I needed to be like at 506 for some reason for some reason. Remember earlier when I was like, you always set an alarm for a round number. I guess I don't either. So circadium rhythm, baby.
00:39:48
Well, in in other iPhone news, uh I'm going to turn your screen off so it doesn't die.
00:39:53
In other iPhone news, we are down. We are expecting uh some new iPhones to come out, which LS is going to
00:40:00
pre-order. Yeah, we're we're we're around that time of year. It's September. It's September. So, the se the September Apple event has
00:40:07
been announced. It's next Wednesday as you listen to this and we are expecting some things mostly based around the
00:40:12
iPhone 17. Sorry, next Tuesday. Good call. Yeah. Uh and we're expecting mostly iPhone 17 stuff.
00:40:19
Most of it is pretty similar to I mean this could be yet another iterative year for the iPhone before uh a maybe more interesting year with a folding iPhone, but depends on how what you think of the
00:40:30
Air. Depends on how interesting that is to you. I mean, we did get a design. It seems like we're getting a design change.
00:40:36
So, a small design change. It's not much, but at the same time, in the Apple ethos, this feels like
00:40:41
something in the iPhone world. You know, I when I reviewed the Porsche 911, I said the same thing. And then when I reviewed the
00:40:47
iPhone a couple years ago, I compared it to the Porsche 911. It's so important of a product to this company that any tiny
00:40:53
little change that they make to this product is monumentally important and will be scrutinized and analyzed and
00:40:59
will have massive implications for the rest of the entire company's products. So, they don't tend to change very much
00:41:04
about the iPhone. And so when there is a little bit of a design change or a little bit of a philosophical change or
00:41:10
a lineup change like a new iPhone like the Air gets announced, we're going to make a big deal about it because you
00:41:15
know this is some statement from Apple about the future of the phone or whatever. But yeah, it's just it's minor
00:41:21
incremental updates to the iPhone. Yeah. So yeah, what are we expecting here? Yeah. So, I put together sort of a a
00:41:27
rumor roundup, you might say, but not like the spray, you know, that Monsanto got sued for like a lot.
00:41:36
Okay. So, uh anyway, there's the pros. Okay, we're going to start with the pros. iPhone 17 and iPhone phone iPhone 17
00:41:42
Pro. Yeah. Okay. So, we Everyone's saying, "Oh, it's a huge design change. It's crazy." You know
00:41:48
what they did? They took this little this little glass piece and they moved it over here. They extended it
00:41:54
kind of like a visor and then they Yeah. Yeah. And then they took the flash and the microphone and
00:42:01
the LAR. Is that LAR, right? Uh yes, still LAR. Yeah. And they they put it on the right side. So now it is a rectangle. Mhm. Um I guess a square is also a rectangle,
00:42:13
but it is specifically a rectangle and not a square. And it goes all the way across the device.
00:42:19
Okay. I have a question for you. Yes. Remember when the leaks started happening of the iPhone notch and that
00:42:26
started coming out and everyone's freaking out and then they announced it with the dynamic island? So, everyone's like, "H, okay." Do you think they're
00:42:33
going to have some sort of like thing software-wise that they announced with this that will make it seem more okay?
00:42:41
I was trying to find a video we made in class right now, Andrew. I think that my
00:42:47
take was that they added that to look more like more glass because they wanted to play off the liquid glass thing.
00:42:54
So, you think it's like purely an aesthetics thing? Yeah, it kind of feels like it. The back
00:42:59
of the phone change feels pretty purely aesthetic to me. The only thing I could possibly see them arguing is that a
00:43:06
bigger cutout on the back of the phone maybe could have some better cell signal or whatever, maybe with millimeter wave. I don't think that's actually what they're going to say, but yeah.
00:43:17
Yeah, I don't know how they're going to justify it. I mean, um, there is a rumor that they're going to now have a 48
00:43:23
megapixel. Uh, all three cameras are going to be 48 megapixels this year. So, it is the first time that they've all
00:43:29
been that resolution. I don't think that you need more glass in order to make it
00:43:34
that. Although, you know, this LAR camera and this flash do take up space on the inside. Mhm.
00:43:39
So, it is possible that parts of the camera module are larger in certain aspects.
00:43:45
That could be interesting. Uh the Pro is the Pro Max is supposed to be a little bit thicker this year for a
00:43:51
bigger battery. So, it's possible that they uh actually differentiate the thickness and battery a little bit more
00:43:57
this year. You know, that's a really nice thing to do is make the big phone thicker when you're also planning on introducing a
00:44:04
thin version. That's what I was thinking. So apparently it's only going to be on the Max, which is interesting to me. I
00:44:10
thought that they would should make both pro both pro phones thicker and then the the Air will feel even thinner than it
00:44:17
actually is. Yeah. But if you're Apple, you've got to like stratify the lineup and give people a reason to climb up. So if you climb up
00:44:23
from like a regular phone to a Pro, you get better cameras. But if you climb up from a Pro to a Pro Max, you also get
00:44:29
better battery. Yeah. It'll physically be the ladder. If you stack the three phones next to each other, you can walk up.
00:44:35
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Uh there's supposed to be a 24 megapixel selfie camera this year because most of
00:44:41
the manufacturers are making high resolution selfie cameras and potential move back to aluminum
00:44:48
from So, we're at titanium now. Yeah, because we've had titanium for 2 years, which we got to from stainless
00:44:53
steel, which we got to from aluminum. Bingo. Okay, so we're back. We're back. But is it a circle or is it like the clock app where we just keep going? It's a really long a really long list.
00:45:05
By the way, for the answer to that, apparently a loop is more complex to code. So just coding a straight list,
00:45:12
they're a trillion dollar company. Let's not give them a pass on that one. A list is pretty easy to code. I will
00:45:19
Yeah. Okay. Uh and then like we said earlier in last month, there may be a vapor chamber situation going on. Yeah. Um, that could also be a Pro Max only thing
00:45:31
or is that crazy? Uh, it could be. I gotta say with how hot Liquid Glass has been running for me, like this update is it makes the the phone get really hot.
00:45:43
Yeah. You know what? It's been interesting reading some of the coverage about Liquid Glass and all the beta updates we've been seeing because there
00:45:50
have been obviously aesthetic differences that people have been tracking between beta 1, beta 2, beta 3,
00:45:55
but there's also been graphical intensity differences and battery life differences that people have also been
00:46:01
tracking. And so we see like the obvious ones that make headlines or like are a fun tweet or whatever where it's like
00:46:06
they frosted it, they unfrosted it, they refrosted it. Cool. But the amount that some of these animations hit your
00:46:13
battery uh has also varied dramatically between betas as they try to lock this down and
00:46:18
optimize it. And obviously they want to make it as efficient as possible, but it is kind of curious seeing like they've committed to this bit, so now
00:46:25
they need to optimize all of the stuff going on. That's what kind of freaks me the hell out as we're about to move to iPhone
00:46:32
air. M how bad is the battery life going to be on that if it's been pretty bad on
00:46:37
Liquid Glass on the Pro Max that I'm using? Yeah, I'm on So, are you on the public beta now or still? I'm
00:46:43
still on developer beta 8. Okay. So, I'm on uh public beta on my iPhone and dev beta 8 on my iPad.
00:46:51
My iPad's getting nuked. Yeah, I went from like 70 to 45 watching a YouTube video, which is crazy. But my
00:46:58
iPhone on the public beta has been much more stable batterywise lately. So I'm curious about that, too. Not sure if it means anything, but can we put Ellis's phone on public beta?
00:47:10
What do you think his percentage battery is now, by the way? Oh, it's actually the same. Nice. I thought it was just going to get cru
00:47:17
just plummet as we sat here. Yeah. Well, speaking of the iPhone Air, uh the rumors are it's going to be 5.5 mm thin.
00:47:24
Sheesh. It is going to have a 6.6 in display. It will have a single 48 megapixel camera
00:47:30
on the back. Standard A19 chip, so not the Pro chip, uh, which I assume will have it will not run as hot theoretically. Mhm. Uh, Bloomberg is also reporting that it may have promotion.
00:47:41
What? Yeah. And a dynamic island. Weird. But okay. Yeah. Great. That is promotion not for pros anymore. Well,
00:47:48
I'm wondering if they might call it like promotion light or something and just make it uh not one to 120 like maybe a
00:47:56
var variable refresh rate promotion 60 to 120. Oh, interesting. Air motion. See, this is one of those things that's right on the line for is Apple going to want to even address or explain this to
00:48:08
the masses like the difference between LTPS and LTPO. I think for regular people, well, this is not even arguable. For most regular people using these phones, the difference between 60 and
00:48:20
120 or 1 to 120 is imperceptible. So, should they even bother? I don't even think that they would say
00:48:27
that. I think that in the presentation they would say it now does 120 hertz and not mention that it's 60 and 120 instead
00:48:33
of 1 to 120. I think that's what they would do. I just think they I I think they wouldn't change the branding. I think they would say it's promotion because it
00:48:39
goes up to 120 and then we'd have to discover that it's 60 to 120 instead of one. Maybe it is 1 to 120 and they had to do
00:48:45
it because the battery life was so bad when it was when it was 60 to 120 that they put it at one
00:48:51
because if it's going to have an always on display, they're going to want it to refresh one time a second, you know.
00:48:56
Yeah. So, yeah, we'll see. I I don't know because I don't think Apple has ever brought a pro monikered feature to the regular models, right? But it is one of those things
00:49:07
where the iPhone has been ridiculed every single year since promotion was invented for still having 60 Hz on the
00:49:14
regular iPhone. Yeah. For the price they charge. So, and they've kept that true. They've kept
00:49:20
ProRes video. They've kept prootion. They've kept Pro Raw photos. They've kept everything with the word pro in it
00:49:26
for only the Pro phones. Yeah. So, that would be the first time they did something different there.
00:49:31
Yeah. Yeah. The Air is also expected to use the Apple C1 modem, uh, which lacks 5G millimeter wave connectivity.
00:49:38
Cool. Uh, it's supposed to cost around $900, which is, you know, it's kind of right
00:49:45
in between there. I mean, that's what I The Plus was, right? No. Plus was $800. No, 900. 900. I think it was 800 or no, 800 for the bass, 900 for the plus, and now it's 900 for the Pro or
00:49:59
for the Air. That makes sense. Just go to Apple. It's replacing the Plus literally right now. Shop iPhone 16 Plus.
00:50:05
799 $8.99. Yeah. Yeah. 800. So, it's just replacing the Plus. So, it seems like they're
00:50:12
basically just trying to keep it just as desirable as the Plus was. I think the Plus was like a horrible selling phone
00:50:19
last year. The standard Plus, the Pro Max sold really, really, really well. M the Pro sold better than they expected
00:50:26
and then the standard sold pretty well. But the Plus like barely sold, which was a weird thing for them cuz they only
00:50:31
make the Plus because generally the big phones sell better. Replaced the mini. They've replaced the mini. They've replaced the mini. But it turns
00:50:38
out that awkward middle child just like never sells well in the price ladder, I guess. What size are they going to go in two
00:50:44
years when the Air doesn't work? Mini again. It's a It's a really long list. It's landscape. Landscape. You go straight to trifold from there. That's the only Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True, true. Uh
00:50:56
yeah. And then so colors on the Pro are supposed to be black, white, dark blue, and orange. I'm so excited for the orange. The orange is insane.
00:51:09
Orange or like pink? Orange. Like like definitively orange. Orange. Um is an instrument. We've started seeing people do the videos on the models and
00:51:21
people get their hands on them. It seems like it's like very orange. I Yes. But if you remember, do you
00:51:26
remember Desert Titanium? Mhm. Desert uh Desert Titanium. Yeah. Band-Aid. Hey, this is the first phone I've ever cracked, by the way. I know. Anyway, the early models and
00:51:40
leaks of this Mhm. were brown. Do you remember that? A little bit. We did a whole thing. Are they making a brown iPhone? Oh, I made that waveform uh thumbnail.
00:51:51
And I think I put a throwing up emoji. Great. Great CTR. I'm just saying that the color renders that we end up getting are often quite off from what they actually end up
00:52:02
looking like. Fair enough. So, it's it's very possible that it's not orange, but it's, you know, sand.
00:52:08
To me, I've never seen this car in person as has barely anyone. Uh, but to me the iPhone orange is like the McLaren Senna orange. Like it's just darker and
00:52:18
browner. Senna orange. Is that like McLaren papaya orange or a different one? Is that uh I don't
00:52:24
It's the color of the McLaren Senna that they Oh, yeah. This is like more of a copper. Yeah, it's like coppery.
00:52:29
Yeah. I don't know. Well, the models Yeah. are very different. Yeah. Anyway, then the Air is supposed
00:52:35
to come in uh black, silver, gold, and light blue. Kind of like a baby blue. This is the year of baby blues. Yeah, because we got that laptop. A lot of light blue phones. Okay. And then uh regular iPhone, new
00:52:48
colors, promotion. Not that different. If they wanted that to sell uh better, it probably won't, which is funny.
00:52:54
Well, you said promotion and the regular iPhone. Yeah, they So, they said, well, the rumor right now is the Pro iPhone, the
00:53:00
all the iPhones are supposed to have promotion and Okay. Yeah, bring it on. That's the rumor.
00:53:05
It's about damn time. Do you think all the iPhones will also have the visor? No, only the pros. Only pros. Well, and the Air has like its own visor. Yeah. So, like the regular iPhone will
00:53:17
still have the current camera bump situation. That's what the rumor is and the models that I've got out so far.
00:53:23
Uh Apple Watch Ultra 3 is supposed to have a larger display. It will even larger.
00:53:28
Even larger. It will now have support for satellite texting. Uh because the Pixel, you know,
00:53:34
the Pixel Watch has that now, the satellite SOS messaging. Mhm. potentially a high blood pressure
00:53:39
indicator. So I can know when I'm so angry at all of you. We can't record cuz it's just beeping the whole time on his wrist. Uh the Ultra, sorry. The Apple Watch 11
00:53:54
will also have the satellite texting and blood pressure indicator according to rumors. And the SE they're going to
00:54:00
announce a new one theoretically. Rumor mill apparently. The way you're saying it sounds like you know everything right now. It sounds like you're trying not to pretend that you don't know.
00:54:11
Everyone Everyone always thinks that we have Apple stuff weeks ahead of time. We literally find out when you do. I
00:54:16
promise. Apple is the company that doesn't pre-brief anyone. And yeah, I posted a picture on Twitter today that it was
00:54:22
from an iPhone 16 Pro and a whole bunch of comments were like, "This is from a 17, isn't it?" Sorry, I just want to say
00:54:28
Apple actually does us one dirtier than not telling us anything where they'll they'll like text you Marquez and be
00:54:33
like like a PR personal text you be like in 3 weeks we'll have something and we you're going to like it and they you'll be like can you tell me
00:54:44
anything and they'll be like you should buy a plane ticket and you're like yeah and they're like and then they're like it's the screening of F1 and half even tell they won't even
00:54:57
tell you like 6 hours before they'd be like, "So that thing that we've been hyping you up for immersive video.
00:55:02
We have new leather cases." That's literally This is so accurate. Like that seven times out of 10, I feel like I have a
00:55:08
pretty good handle of what they're going to tell me. And three times out of 10, I'll show up and I'm like, "Oh, I'm just going to leave.
00:55:15
This is not what I need to be doing right now." Yeah. Uh anyway, the Apple SE, it seems
00:55:20
like apparently, I don't know this for sure, but they're going to change from aluminum to plastic and they're going to
00:55:27
market it to kids instead of, you know, being cuz the SE has always just been like the affordable edition.
00:55:33
Yes. But now it seems like, okay, there's not enough difference anymore between because the SE, the last SE was
00:55:40
the in the Apple Watch 6 chassis, which just happened to have smaller bezels basically, and that was kind of
00:55:46
the main thing. And it was missing like a few features, but now the SE might move to plastic and
00:55:51
be marketed towards kids. Plastic to me, I mean, you to me C. Am I right? I don't iPhone 5C. plastic or but a really cheap Apple Watch with
00:56:06
cellular to give to a kid instead of giving them a phone but still being able to like contact emergency services honestly feels like a great thing cuz there's you can't distract
00:56:16
yourself as much on that no I bet I like I can already say like I got my phone in seventh grade because I started playing sports at different schools and like have an emergency thing
00:56:27
lots of parents I think are buying their phones kids that can do so much more now because of a situation like that. But if
00:56:33
you can't fiddle around on a watch as much as you can on a phone. Yeah. I heard two really interesting stories recently. One, I forgot who was
00:56:40
telling me that uh their high school or whatever the school that they came from banned smart like banned phones so the
00:56:48
kids can't have phones. They put them in a locker before they go to school. Like locked bags that they have to unlock at the end.
00:56:53
They're not allowed to have a phone. Obviously the kids all have burners, but it is what it is. And then the other one is like I I'm thinking this kind of
00:57:00
makes more sense the more I think about it. Obviously plastic is like a bummer of a headline. Yeah.
00:57:05
But there is this whole huge market of these cheaper location texting etc type of watches that people are willing to get their kids before they get them a smartphone. And I think Apple can compete there if
00:57:17
the price is also lower. Yeah. If you switch to plastic and you're going to aim for this market,
00:57:23
obviously, okay, it's Apple. They're going to be the premium one in that market. But it can't be $250. It has to be cheaper than that. So, I kind of
00:57:29
wonder if that's what they're going to do. They're just going to go, "All right, the SE is just all the way down here. It's the entry level. Your
00:57:35
four-year-old is going to finally love iMessage and they're going to get their first phone and guess what? It's going
00:57:40
to be an iPhone." And then you're in. So, I could see them actually going for that market. And you know what they'll say? $99. You
00:57:47
don't want to make sure your kids safe for just another 15. I think we can do that. Are they going to have like a funn
00:57:55
I do think you had a million dollar idea though which is a plastic app cellular Apple Watch that has
00:58:01
it's pretty much a phone and Apple Music. There was those old phones that were like four buttons on it and it was just four phone or four numbers you could call and an emergency service. A child/
00:58:13
teenager could get all their socializing done with something like that and also avoid endless scrolling on rot evil group
00:58:22
chats. Yeah, I mean there are people out here trying to make their watch their primary device. So that's true.
00:58:27
I mean I'm only buying lane an Apple Watch SE and an Apple Vision Pro. That's all she needs.
00:58:33
It's all she needs. That thing is heavier. The Apple Vision Pro is heavier than her body.
00:58:39
She's like, "Really work on the neck muscles with that one?" Weirdly, the only place I've ever in the wild seen an Apple Vision
00:58:45
Pro is on a plane or in the airport. That's the only place I've ever seen on a plane. Yeah. Have you ever seen one not
00:58:52
related to an airplane? I don't I've never seen it. No. Huh. Okay. Interesting. We got some new stuff. Uh AirPods Pro could be getting an update. Could be adding heart rate monitoring, which they
00:59:02
already have in the Power Beats Pro 2. Wasn't it Couldn't you not listen to music at the same time?
00:59:09
when you were doing the heart rate monitor. Music would make your heart rate go up, bro. You'll you'll have such a good time. I think that was true at launch. I don't
00:59:16
know if they patched that with a software upd. Yeah. Well, there may be a new H3 chip. Not sure what that would do, but it would do something. Redesigned smaller charging
00:59:28
case with no pairing buttons. So, I'm assuming they're going to have some sort of I don't know different way to pair it
00:59:33
like NFC or something which would make it really hard to pair to an Android phone.
00:59:41
It might make it hard. I mean, it might just trigger Bluetooth pairing maybe cuz like Well, what would the NFC chip?
00:59:47
Oh, like if you like uh there's a lot of NFC chips now where you like uh even the old Sony WH100 whatevers used to have
00:59:54
like an NFC chip and it would Bluetooth pair to your Android phone. I mean, even my like nothing headphones. I just open
01:00:00
them and my Yeah, that's fast pair, but that's like a that's like a dedicated Qualcomm thing that they have.
01:00:06
Yeah, Apple has their own version of that in the H chip. So, yeah, I guess with my power my Beats
01:00:11
Pro, I have to hold the button down to connect them. Yeah. So, we'll see. I I remember it was
01:00:16
like a year ago that we saw all of those mockup AirPods cases that had like the screen on them, but I haven't heard any
01:00:22
news of anything related to that recently. So whether or not they scrapped it or if that's just coming
01:00:27
later, I'm not sure. Um, and then one thing that I didn't write down because I know you're not going to care. Uh, apparently Apple
01:00:34
Vision Pro may get the uh the five the M5 chip. I'm just kidding. Yeah. So, uh, I don't know why they're still
01:00:45
making them. They probably have a lot of stock that they could just sell instead of putting a new chip in it. Yeah. But that's sort of the rumors. I
01:00:54
think it will be interesting to see what new features come out on the phone. I want I want to know about the new like
01:00:59
video features that the iPhone gets and the new photography and video features because that's always like really fun.
01:01:05
Like they did the studio quality mics. Uh they, you know, if you want to call them studio quality.
01:01:11
They've done the, you know, they they did ProRes at first and then it was ProRes raw and then it was uh then you
01:01:17
got ProRes log and all this stuff. Like every year they kind of like up the video game more and more and more and more. So, I'm just very curious what
01:01:24
they bring to it this year. I think that'll be pretty cool. Same. I do plan on shooting whatever autofocus video comes out after the
01:01:30
event or whenever the iPhone reviews come out with the iPhone just so we can see how much better it's gotten. So, subscribe is a nice plug to the
01:01:36
autofocus channel. And of course, Waveform, you must already be subscribed to Waveform, though, obviously.
01:01:42
Uh, a lot of people plug in the other channels before you plug ours. Yeah, that's my bad. Well, now you're subscribed everywhere, so it's all good.
01:01:49
Yeah. So yeah, after this week you will know and so will we. And we will be recording at Apple Park.
01:01:56
Looking forward to that cuz it'll be cool. Wait, wait, do it again. More exciting though. And we'll be recording
01:02:02
at Apple Park. That's what it's going to sound like. From Google. It's going to be reverbby as hell. Sick. Cool. Okay. Wait. Sorry, Marquez. What is it going to be?
01:02:13
Reverbby AF. Nice. Trying to throw it to autofocus again. Adam can help it. Can you hit the button? Trivia time.
01:02:26
Vibe shift. Trivia. All right. October 4th, 2016. Do you guys know what happened that day? Yeah. What happened?
01:02:32
Not the trivia question. Pixel one. Correct. The original Pixel announced October 4th, 2016 had a DX Omark
01:02:40
that was the best scoring camera. How do you know that? I remember the DX cuz I got a brain, bro.
01:02:45
Is that the question? That's the question. What was the DXO? DX. What is wrong with you?
01:02:52
You remember the exact day and DxO score of this phone and you don't know the iPhone's like default ringtones? We have different prior We have different priorities.
01:03:03
Do you guys want a bonus question? Was that the question? That was the question. What was the DXO score? What was the DXO score of that one? Of
01:03:09
the Pixel first one? Pixel one. Did Marquez get it right? I don't know. He wrote it down. I wrote it down, but I didn't share it.
01:03:16
Okay. But we can get a Yeah, bonus. Great. There was another phone that year that
01:03:21
got the same score later that year. Oh, yeah. Do you remember what that phone was? Huawei P20 Pro.
01:03:26
That's actually what I was going to say. P20 Pro. Sorry. Oh, that wasn't it. So,
01:03:32
it wasn't it? No. So, you still have hope. Oh, P10 Pro. No, it's this one right here.
01:03:37
P30 Pro. Hey, shut up. Oh, it's P30. I'm pretty sure it was. It was the like bluish one, right? That was the bronze colored.
01:03:49
I think it was like the blue and purple one. That's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, the the P30 Pro was like the
01:03:55
purple and blue. It was the bronze P40 Pro. Yeah, this is P20. P20 Pro. So, we were
01:04:00
That was such a beautiful phone. But that's not it. Remember when we like that? Okay.
01:04:05
Remember when we had colors like that? Yeah. Colorful phones. We don't two colors on one phone. Even if it's orange now, it's
01:04:11
Have you not seen Andrew's lemongrass piss Gatorade foam? Ellis. Ellis, look at this beautiful
01:04:17
Yo, is that orange? This is a great time to take a break before this descends into madness.
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01:07:00
debacle cuz I found this headline the other day that just said, "Sony explains what it's doing to ensure the Xeria 1 7
01:07:07
debacle never happens again." And I sent this in Slack and I think every single one of us made the same joke, which was
01:07:14
the what? This Xperia 17 came out and then everyone continued to make the joke, maybe that's what the debacle was that we didn't know it came out. That we didn't know it came out. Uh,
01:07:28
Sony has never been great at marketing. Marquez has made an entire video called why people don't buy Sony smartphones.
01:07:33
Um the TLDDR is usually they like announce a phone, they send it to reviewers, have an embargo and then no
01:07:40
one sees that phone or at least the US doesn't see the phone for like 6 months. The embargo is in February and it gets
01:07:46
launched at B&H exclusively in September. They're trying to not sell the phone. Yeah. So, we have that video if you want to see it, but that's actually not what
01:07:56
happened here. Apparently, after being announced in May and then released in June, they had multiple reports of the
01:08:03
phone just straight up rebooting, shutting down, and then not turning back on. That's what I like to pay $1,700 for.
01:08:11
Um, apparently, it was a bad circuit board and um, they completely paused the sales of the phone globally. They have fixed it. They started a replacement program. phones are now starting to
01:08:21
launch at the end of August or now it's September and you can get the Sony Xperia 17 which this is a brutal way of learning that there is a Sony Xperia 17.
01:08:32
How much does it cost? I'm not totally sure. 1400 euro. It seems like pretty standard Sony phone
01:08:39
like great display. Yes, it's it's up there with everything. Good cameras. 5,000 mAh battery.
01:08:45
Headphone jack. Headphone jack. Most important. Yeah. Um $1,630. 1,600 bucks. Yeah, that's also pretty par for the course for a Sony phone. Pretty damn expensive for really great
01:08:59
specs. Variable zoom. It's there. But uh too bad if you can't turn it on. That would be tough. That would be tough. Sony did say they are going to work on improving their quality control in the future.
01:09:10
Wish they had that in the beginning. That's a great thing to work on. Um, I have one other quick story that I think a few people in this room, not that they
01:09:21
know anything about it, but are going to be pretty sad about. YouTube is now flagging accounts on premium family
01:09:27
plans that aren't in the same household. No, don't do that. Are you guys all on a family plan?
01:09:32
No. What? No. How many of you guys are on? Are you all on this family plan? No. I'm pretty sure they've talked about it on the podcast. I could not join Adam's family cuz I'm already part of David's
01:09:45
family. And they're like, "Why you got two families?" Hey, you're outing us right now, bro. You can't out us live.
01:09:50
I'm beating all of that. I checked I checked my email. I have not gotten the we caught your ass email yet,
01:09:56
so we're still good. Yeah, but you're publicly telling everybody now. I'm privately telling you five four and
01:10:02
there just happens to be some 4K cameras and microphones in front of me. We can cut it. They're not going to come
01:10:08
and get us though. They won't come and get us. Well, they're coming to get everyone. That's the whole point of me posting this year.
01:10:13
There were posts in like 2019 that said Spotify is going to shut you down if you don't live together. I'm still on a
01:10:20
Spotify family plan with my college roommates. Okay. Why are you outing yourself right now? $2. As soon as this gets published, you're
01:10:26
going to get an email. No. Well, so like we all saw we all had the Netflix thing where eventually Netflix
01:10:32
used to brag about being able to share accounts. That's true. Then they decided, hold on a minute. And they saw a very large rise in
01:10:39
subscribers after they actually Yeah, it actually did work for them. We're not even sharing an account. I know.
01:10:44
They're just tearing apart. They're going to tear our family apart. Yeah. I If you don't know, you can have
01:10:50
up to five people in a premium family plan, which is $23 a month. So, some people again don't know any might split
01:10:58
up that $23 a month and be in a family plan despite being under the same rooftop house.
01:11:03
You're saying they would lie about being family. It does say that's the thing about family.
01:11:08
Yeah, exactly. You know what's funny? I don't have any cousins, but I got a whole lot of families.
01:11:14
I got I got my Spotify family. I got my YouTube family. I got my Apple family. David, to save $8 a month. Will you marry me?
01:11:25
Tax reasons? Not even tax reasons. Just so we can keep our YouTube family plan together.
01:11:31
Yeah. We have to live together, though. That's the problem, right? Yeah. It still doesn't matter. You'd have to live together. I don't want to live with you, but I'd
01:11:36
marry you. Oh, you have to be in the same household. You have to be in the same household. That's an even wackier definition of
01:11:43
family. That's the thing is I think it's past the family section of this because that
01:11:48
just means a roommate is more of a family than my mom is to me, right? Yeah. We can just go to go to Olive Garden cuz
01:11:55
when you're there, you're family. That's true. That's the loophole. If you if everyone goes to Olive Garden, they can't take
01:12:01
away our YouTube premiums. That's right. So, I'm seeing if you do get caught, you get an email that says, "Your YouTube premium family membership
01:12:08
will be paused." Uh, it appears you may not be in the same household as your family manager, and your membership will
01:12:14
be paused in 14 days. Once your access is paused, you'll remain in the family group, and you can watch YouTube with
01:12:19
ads, but you will no longer have YouTube Premium benefits. Do you think they know that from like Wi-Fi networks?
01:12:25
Just IP and Wi-Fi. That's David. Do you use a VPN? No. Do you? No. But I think you would be the one cuz you're the household. You're the head of house family manager. Why are we saying this on a popular
01:12:36
YouTube show? This is a bad idea. Um but yeah, I if Yeah, you know, obviously that like it said in the rules
01:12:48
you're not supposed to do this. This still feels Why'd you look at me when you said that? I didn't. I looked at the camera. It
01:12:54
still feels weird. And I feel like a lot of people aren't going to get kicked off of this plan and then go, "Oh, yeah.
01:12:59
I'll pay $14 a month." Because they wanted only wanted to do it because it was cheaper. I'm someone who pays $14 a
01:13:04
month. I personally think it's worth how how often I use it. So, you're saying you hate your family.
01:13:10
Yes. Um, but on the other side, it just calling it a family plan just feels stupid because obviously a lot of people have actual It's called a group plan or something.
01:13:22
Well, household plan, the exact same address plan. It's that part's weird. And I I don't know. Also, the more I was like reading this, I was remembering all
01:13:35
the features you get like offline downloads and picture and picture and like screen off. Those should just be
01:13:41
features on YouTube. It's really stupid to lock those behind it. I think just no ad saves me enough time. I know. But
01:13:48
yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I love YouTube Premium, but I just don't think that many people are going to
01:13:53
convert. They're just going to get kicked off. And I think it worked for Netflix. So, that is the other thing.
01:13:59
A lot of people that use YouTube and like turn off the screen, put it in their pocket. Yep. So, was this let everybody take
01:14:08
advantage of it for a long time and then realize they can't live without those features and ads anymore.
01:14:13
Way to do it. It's the classic way to do it. Amazon uh today announced basically the same thing as well. They just ended
01:14:20
uh shared Prime free shipping outside your home. Oh. So yeah, I think that was slightly different though cuz I think that was like a specific feature, right? Like if I had
01:14:31
Prime, I would like let you use it. It's not like you were logging in and pretending to be me.
01:14:36
It was like I could share the Prime shipping feature. Yeah, but you're not logging. Ellis is not logging in pretending to be me. He
01:14:42
has a separate YouTube account in our family plan, you know. Yeah. No, I mean that's what I mean. Like I think it is slightly different.
01:14:48
I love watching YouTube. I don't think I could watch YouTube without premium. And
01:14:54
I don't know if I love YouTube enough to pay $14 a month for it. I think you do. I think it's worth it.
01:15:00
I'll be real. It I It's probably It's my most I pay for Netflix and Disney Plus and those
01:15:05
things and the I get the most bang for my buck out of the YouTube. But that's just my personal viewing.
01:15:11
Yeah. YouTube. We talk about the, you know, companies artificially pushing their pro and
01:15:16
nonpro products further and further apart. I think YouTube and YouTube Premium might have the biggest delta in
01:15:22
experience between each other. Like YouTube is almost unusable without premium/ no ads.
01:15:28
And some of some of the ads that I see on free is like bad. Like Twitter level bad like oh my god. Yeah. like pills
01:15:40
like like a 6-hour like like supplement infomercial. Yeah. Well, I get I get whenever like I see ads on YouTube all
01:15:46
the time for like amulets that increase your Oh, well those are something power balance pavilion.
01:15:53
Yeah. Oh my god. I just think offline download should be a regular feature. I think that's crazy. And I think
01:15:59
there's plenty of people who take a flight once a year that would like to download some YouTube videos that should
01:16:05
get you. That's how they get you. Well, for legal reasons, I have no family. I mean, no. For legal reasons, you have it. For For legal reasons, we should be cutting this entire section. For legal reasons, David and I are
01:16:19
roommates in his one-bedroom apartment. That's right. But we're not married yet. That we're not married yet. But Google
01:16:24
doesn't care about that. It doesn't care about that. They They just care that we sleep in the same bed. Yeah. So, why is it even called the family plan? It should be called the
01:16:30
roommate plan. Yeah. Oh my god. Check me, Google. All right. Yeah. I do think though you guys are
01:16:36
kind of underestimating how crappy the experience is without premium because like for example YouTube videos are getting longer aka this podcast which is probably at like almost 2 hours now. Um
01:16:48
if I forget to uncheck the ad automatic ads on the YouTube video, the first like
01:16:55
dozen comments will just be like this is unwatchable because like every two minutes there will be an ad. It's like
01:17:01
ridiculous. Yeah, it's even if you just check mid rolls to be enabled because sometimes we do that to do it in the ad
01:17:08
slots when we don't have like a regular Vox ad and then it'll just like automatically add them and I'll look and
01:17:13
the whole first page is within the first like five minutes of the video which means that's how they're like seven
01:17:19
minutes front loaded. It's crazy. Yeah, it's really annoying. We should go on strike or we should go on trivia.
01:17:26
Yeah, it's better. Yeah, we're going on strike by not posting YouTube videos. Then we all lose. All right, guys. We were just on the same page about something for about 10
01:17:38
minutes, and now we're about to get into a giant argument about what is and isn't orange. So, everyone chug your Red Bulls and get ready to get fired up
01:17:45
because there have been three orange pixels in the history of the pixel. Please write down all three names Google gave to the color orange.
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[Music] You have to spell them correctly. I don't. It's definitely spelled wrong. What could you have possibly spelled wrong? That means that answer is not correct.
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Do you think one of them is like orangutang font? Orangutang would be a great Are those orange? I don't think so.
01:18:22
No. Wait, I got one. Orangutanks. I wouldn't know how to spell it either. They're like burgundy. It's definitely not orange. Flip them and read.
01:18:33
They're kind of orange. All right. Who wants to go first? David, why don't you go first?
01:18:39
Okay. I put almost orange. Okay. I put sand. I put orange. I also put orange. Thought there might be a curb in there. I put clementine. Probably spelled wrong. Coral.
01:18:52
Oh, coral. I knew that was the Pixel 7. Yeah, that's pink. I actually thought it was the four. Do I got to get the phone? Should I Should I Should I get the phone out of the closet right now?
01:19:05
Oh, I remember the coral one. Never mind. No, it was the That's the six, right? You said seven. Seven. Yeah, that one is actually
01:19:10
7A. Specifically, the 7A. That one was poorly named, but it is very orange. The phone itself is very orange. Thank you.
01:19:16
They used to have orange. Just the button would be orange. Like the Pixel 2 had an orange accent button. Remember that? That was the Panda. The Panda had the
01:19:22
orange button. That was awesome. I feel like that's more of a coral color. That's why it's called coral.
01:19:27
Yeah. But yeah. Anyway, uh Okay. I put um I put not pink. Okay. I put very orange and I put very orange is so close. Barely orange.
01:19:41
All three of those are very close. Marquez. Dang. That's very on their vibe. Almost orange is not close. The Pixel 7a
01:19:48
was coral. Okay. The Pixel 6 came in a color called kind of coral. Wow. And the Pixel 4 came in a color
01:19:59
called oh so orange. It was literally oh so orange. Is it really? That is what it was called. And I think
01:20:05
that's really funny cuz if you put a question mark and a comma in that thing, it goes oh so orange.
01:20:12
Which is what I said. Wow. I had that phone and I didn't know that's what it was called.
01:20:18
It was so good. It was one of the best colors. Yeah, actually if you look back um
01:20:23
cuz it had black rail matte black rails. Yeah, that phone and the the the texture. It was a squeeze phone and it
01:20:29
had Soleie which destroyed the battery life and didn't work. If you watch the Android Authority YouTube video from that review, it is me
01:20:36
and Adam in Central Park in 2018 or whatever. Was that the same video we got kicked out of the Museum of Natural History?
01:20:42
Yeah, but there's a cool segment from the Museum of Natural History. We got the shot, baby. We got the shot. Sounds like story time.
01:20:48
Next time it on a future episode of waveform. All right, quick update on the score. You look a lot different.
01:20:54
Marquez with two. David with two. No, that's Andrew with five. Oh, all right. My question was, the original
01:21:06
Pixel was announced by DxO Mark as having the best camera score for a smartphone. What was that score? Bonus
01:21:14
point. What was the other phone that year that also scored the same score? Didn't we say that out loud already?
01:21:20
You were wrong, Idiot. The phone you guys mentioned came out in 2019. [Music] Oh, I was like 20. Shoot. Okay. What do you got?
01:21:39
Let's go David first. What What' you say? Put 97. Nope. Is it too high? And what phone?
01:21:45
P30 Pro. Huawei. Nope. Okay, we all put P30 Pro. All right. Well, you all got that wrong.
01:21:51
I put 89. No. Oh, I also put 89. Oh, you both put it. It was 90. And the other phone was the HTC U11.
01:22:02
Also got a 90 that year. Yeah. That's weird. Yep. That's really weird. That wasn't a good camera.
01:22:07
That was before the Pixel came out though, wasn't it? Came out slightly after. I think Sony got a higher score. Wow. I did not
01:22:13
think that was okay. Wow. Shout out to DXO Mark. Yeah. Damn. The Pixel 4 was so close to being perfect at 100. Yeah. Yeah. I got 90. Almost did it.
01:22:25
Sometimes you got to get a 90 and brag about it. When Marquez was so sure and I saw I had the same answer as him, I was like,
01:22:31
"Let's go. We're having a good day." I think you still have way more points than I forgot. I was googling one of the
01:22:36
phones you kind of mentioned and it came out in 2019 and this was from 2016, 2017, something like that. Oh wow. Okay, we were way off. Well,
01:22:44
either way, stay tuned. This episode is coming out right before or right at the beginning of September. So, you already
01:22:49
know we're about to dive directly in to, you know, all the stuff that happens at this time of year every year. So, get
01:22:55
subscribed if you haven't already. Get subscribed to all the other channels that I've shouted out during this episode. The MKBHD channel, the
01:23:01
Autofocus channel, the studio channel. There's stuff just gonna be everywhere for all these uh these last few weeks of
01:23:06
the year. So, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Catch you guys very soon. Peace.
01:23:13
I'm boarding in 58 minutes. Oh my god. Hold on. Hold on. Everybody ready? Wait for Adam Mina.
01:23:22
So, it's not that fast. We got time. We got time. I was going for my auctioneer.
01:23:29
[Music] I will say we had Gatorade this weekend at our tournament and it was red and blue, but they were uh strawberry
01:23:51
and like blueberry or something like not what you'd expect from red and blue Gatorade. What about cool ranch? It's usually like fruit pumps. Red and blue, but not like blue. Yeah, it was weird. It would look like
01:24:02
the regular red and blue and then you drink them. You'd be like I thought the blue was supposed to be cool ranch and I'm blue and blue. I love that, David. That's the best
01:24:08
thing you've ever said. We were henched rant.