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This Steve Jobs Rule Will Change Your Life...

July 15, 2025 / 01:56

This episode features Kevin discussing his experiences working with Steve Jobs in the early 90s, focusing on Jobs' management style and vision. Key topics include signal to noise ratio, the importance of prioritizing tasks, and comparisons to Elon Musk's work ethic.

Kevin shares anecdotes about Jobs' blunt communication style, stating that Jobs often disregarded others' opinions, emphasizing his own vision for success. He recalls a specific conversation where Jobs insisted on focusing on critical tasks rather than what others thought was important.

The discussion highlights the concept of signal to noise ratio, where Kevin explains that Jobs believed in maximizing productive efforts while minimizing distractions. He notes that Jobs aimed for an 80/20 ratio, prioritizing essential tasks.

Kevin also draws parallels between Jobs and Elon Musk, asserting that Musk operates with an even higher signal to noise ratio, dedicating his time solely to productive endeavors.

The episode concludes with Kevin reflecting on how historical geniuses maintained a high signal to noise ratio, suggesting that this focus is key to achieving significant success.

TLDR

Kevin shares insights on working with Steve Jobs, emphasizing his focus on prioritizing tasks and minimizing distractions.

Episode

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I used to work for Steve Jobs in the early 90s making all of his educational software. By the way, not a nice guy.
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Not a nice guy. He would say to a room full of people, Kevin, I don't give a what the students want or the
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parents think or anybody thinks. It's what I want. They don't know what they want till I tell them what they want.
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And I said, "Steve, you sound like such an You have no idea what that sounds like." He says, "No, no, that's
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how it is, Kevin. Now, are you making money with me? Are we are you am I your fastest growing OEM? Have we not been
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wildly successful and continue to be?" I said, "Yes, Steve, that's true." He said, "And shut up and do what I
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say." That's how he would talk to you 100%. And here's what I learned. Signal to
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noise ratio. His vision of signal was the top three to five things you have to get done in the next 18 hours. Not your
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vision for the business next week or next month or next year. Just the next 18 hours you're awake. You're going to
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get those three things or those five things done that you have deemed critical for your mission. They must get
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done today. Anything that stops you from doing that is the noise. The signal to noise ratio to be successful for Steve
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Jobs was 8020. 80 signal, 20 noise. He was right. He was right. And the only other person that I've seen that has a
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higher ratio than that is Elon Musk. He has no noise. He does not deal with noise. He is 100%
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signaled. 60 seconds of every minute, 60 minutes of every hour, the 18 hours he's
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awake, it's all signal. And look what he's achieved. And if you go back in history, you're going to find out that
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the geniuses of their time were close to 100% signal.

Episode Highlights

  • Working for Steve Jobs
    A firsthand account of the challenges and insights from working with Steve Jobs.
    “Not a nice guy.”
    @ 00m 04s
    July 15, 2025
  • Signal to Noise Ratio
    Jobs emphasized focusing on critical tasks over distractions.
    “80 signal, 20 noise.”
    @ 01m 22s
    July 15, 2025
  • Elon Musk's Focus
    A comparison of Jobs' focus with Elon Musk's productivity style.
    “He has no noise. He is 100% signaled.”
    @ 01m 38s
    July 15, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • Not a nice guy.
    This Steve Jobs Rule Will Change Your Life...
  • They don't know what they want till I tell them what they want.
    This Steve Jobs Rule Will Change Your Life...
  • Shut up and do what I say.
    This Steve Jobs Rule Will Change Your Life...
  • 80 signal, 20 noise.
    This Steve Jobs Rule Will Change Your Life...
  • He has no noise. He is 100% signaled.
    This Steve Jobs Rule Will Change Your Life...

Key Moments

  • Jobs' Leadership Style00:42
  • Focus on Signal01:22
  • Musk Comparison01:38