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I learned today, for example, that I'm in the Epstein files. >> Oh, really?
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>> And here's the way I'm in there. >> Three million documents and many of them
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are emails that people have sent at different times. Some of the most famous people in the world have sent emails to
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Epstein and now those are all out there in the public to see. >> Some of it I I don't talk about because
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I have a fair amount of inside information and I'm just watchful about not getting near the line. But
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>> what do you mean by inside information? I mean information that that I might
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have gotten from government agencies that are clients or that I might have gotten because clients were uh were
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implicated. Like I learned today, for example, this morning on the way over here that I'm in the Epstein files.
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>> Oh, really? >> And here's the way I'm in there is that someone sent Epstein an article that I
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wrote called Fooling Ourselves into War. They sent that to Epstein. So that's an
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example of being in the Epstein files and yet obviously never having met Epstein. But I won't be the first guest,
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Stephen, that you've had uh that says that um it was an intelligence operation. Why the US government is
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reluctant to be more uh transparent? Some of it is national security. Some of it is, let's imagine an ally of ours uh
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is involved in in that operation. So there's a reluctance and there's a question, could the public handle it?
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Could we handle it? Could the US public handle it? My take personally, absolutely