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man on everyone's lips at the moment, Jeffrey Epste. So Epste's a fascinating case because
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Epstein fits all of the primary pillars of a foreign intelligence asset collecting information on American
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citizens, not an American spy working for someone else. It's funny because people keep thinking like CIA killed him
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or people keep thinking that he somehow worked for CIA or maybe even worked for for MSAD. What I see is the opposite.
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That he, if anything, was working independently, maybe even working for several countries, but collecting
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information on US people. Is that what you believe? I think that he could have been that. I
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don't know that I necessarily believe that it's true because he was a very successful
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business person. He had lots of um successful friends. I was interviewing someone the other day and they said that
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they met Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein was really really interested in their physics and science discoveries
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and wasn't interested at all in the finance year stuff that he was pretending to or he was purporting to be
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involved in. And um this person said to me it was just really particular really bizarre because he was only interested
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in the the physics and science discoveries we had at Harvard. he wasn't particularly interested in finance to me
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and that person was was like really shocked by that. What I've learned working with wealthy
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people and successful people is that they're often very intelligent and they're often misunderstood and part of
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the reason that they have grown as successful as they have grown is because they don't really fit in anywhere else.
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If they would have fit in somewhere else, they would have been distracted by the area where they fit in. Instead,
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they had to carve their own interests, their own passions, their own