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WHAT YEAR WILL AI REPLACE EVERYONE?

July 13, 2026 / 01:38

This episode discusses the potential dangers of AI, featuring insights from a former OpenAI employee who resigned over ethical concerns. Key topics include the risk of AI leading to human extinction, job loss, and the race among tech leaders like Elon Musk and Sam Altman to develop powerful AI systems.

The guest shares personal reflections on the uncertainty of the future, including a decision to not have more children due to fears about AI's impact. He mentions his experience at OpenAI in 2022, where he forecasted future scenarios related to AI development.

He emphasizes the urgency of addressing these issues, stating that powerful CEOs are competing for control over AI, which could lead to significant societal consequences. The conversation highlights the importance of steering AI development in a positive direction to harness its potential benefits.

Additionally, the guest discusses a report he published, which accurately predicted AI trends, and expresses hope that his dire predictions will be proven wrong.

TLDR

A former OpenAI employee warns about AI's risks, including extinction and job loss, and urges for responsible development.

Episode

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The scary open secret in the AI industry right now is that it's possible that we'll end up essentially creating a new
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species that ends up ruling the world with a 70% chance that this goes horribly wrong like human extinction.
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That's one possibility. There's many more. >> It's quite chilling what you're saying.
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>> Yeah, it's uh it gets me down sometimes. I basically told my wife like let's not
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have any more kids. It's too uncertain. I don't think they'll ever join the workforce.
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Everybody should be afraid that their jobs are going to be lost. And I know this because I went to OpenAI in 2022.
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What I did there was forecasting what the what the next couple years might look like. And unfortunately, most of
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the world is kind of asleep at the wheel and doesn't really realize what's going
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on with AI. So, I resigned. >> I read it somewhere that you lost $2 million for not signing an
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anti-disparagement clause, meaning you couldn't criticize the company. >> Yes, for reasons I'm happy to get into.
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But, the main thing I've learned is when I go talk to people at Anthropic and OpenAI about forecasting, they're like,
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"It's not going to take that long. You need to shorten them again. Get them back to 2027 or 2028." Because these
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powerful CEOs, Dario or Sam or Elon, are racing each other to be in control of the most powerful AIs and are literally
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afraid that if the other guy gets there first, he might become dictator. I mean,
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Anthropic is on track to be the entire economy by 2030. But, none of these people should be trusted with that much
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power. So, this is the most important thing happening in our lifetimes, probably in all of history, in fact. And
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it's very important that it go well. So, I think that there's a lot we can do to
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like steer things in a better direction. There's loads of benefits that we could
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get from AI if we do it right. And if we do solve the problems, then things could
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be absolutely amazing for everyone. >> Well, this report here in 2021, it was remarkably [music] accurate. And then
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you just published this one. >> Yeah. So, this is our new scenarios. >> So, let's go through these slowly and
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one at a time. >> I would be incredibly happy if all my predictions turn out to be wrong.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Scary Open Secret in AI
    The AI industry may create a new species that could rule the world, with a 70% chance of catastrophic outcomes like human extinction.
    “It's quite chilling what you're saying.”
    @ 00m 12s
    July 13, 2026
  • The Uncertain Future of Jobs
    Concerns arise about job losses due to AI advancements, leading to personal decisions about family.
    “I basically told my wife like let's not have any more kids.”
    @ 00m 18s
    July 13, 2026
  • Racing for AI Control
    Powerful CEOs are racing to control AI, fearing the consequences of being second.
    “None of these people should be trusted with that much power.”
    @ 01m 10s
    July 13, 2026

Episode Quotes

  • It's quite chilling what you're saying.
    WHAT YEAR WILL AI REPLACE EVERYONE?
  • I basically told my wife like let's not have any more kids.
    WHAT YEAR WILL AI REPLACE EVERYONE?
  • This is the most important thing happening in our lifetimes.
    WHAT YEAR WILL AI REPLACE EVERYONE?
  • I would be incredibly happy if all my predictions turn out to be wrong.
    WHAT YEAR WILL AI REPLACE EVERYONE?

Key Moments

  • Personal Sacrifice00:18
  • Job Loss Anxiety00:25
  • Power Struggle00:57
  • Hope for the Future01:18