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I said, "Yes, Steve, that's true." He said, "Then [ __ ] shut up and do what
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I say." I used to work for Steve Jobs in the early 90s making all of his educational software. I would say,
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"Steve, you know, we got to do some market research on Oregon Trail." I mean, it's a huge
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title. It's in 110,000 school buildings. We got to do an update. It's going to
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cost you 12, 15 million bucks. We want to find out what the students want. We want to find out what the teachers want.
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Want to find out what the parents want. Steve would say, "By the way, not a nice
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guy. Not a nice guy." He would say to a room full of people, "Kevin, I don't
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give a [ __ ] what the students want or the parents think or anybody thinks. It's what I want. They don't know what
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they want till I tell them what they want." And I said, "Steve, you sound like such
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an [ __ ] You have no idea what that sounds like." He says, "No, no, that's
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how it is, Kevin. Now, are you making money with me? Am I your fastest growing OEM? Have we not been wildly successful
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and continue to be? I said, "Yes, Steve, that's true." He said, "Then [ __ ]
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shut up and do what I say.