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THIS IS HOW TO EARN TRUST 😮

November 04, 2025 / 02:38

This episode discusses the marble jar theory of trust, featuring a personal story about teaching trust to children. The conversation highlights how small acts of kindness contribute to building trust over time.

The host shares a story about Ellen, a fourth grader who experiences betrayal from friends, leading her to declare she will never trust anyone again. The host uses this moment to explain the marble jar theory, where each act of confidentiality earns a marble.

Through Ellen's examples, like friends sharing seats and showing concern during illness, the host illustrates how trust is built gradually through small gestures. The discussion emphasizes that trust is not established through grand gestures but through consistent, caring interactions.

The episode also connects this concept to leadership, explaining that leaders earn trust through everyday interactions rather than relying on authority during crises. The host argues that trust is crucial for effective leadership.

TLDR

The episode explains the marble jar theory of trust using a child's experience and connects it to leadership principles.

Episode

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I've heard about your marble jar theory. So, I got a jar of marbles. I saw that.
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Could you explain to me your theory? This is how we teach trust. Where do I get my information? Ellen's in fourth
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grade, my oldest. She comes home from school. She slides down the door into a heap, sobbing. Oh my god, Ellen, are you
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okay? Are you hurt? What's going on? Something hard happened. She shared it very confidentially with one or two of
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her friends. They had told everybody in her class, all 30 kids, everybody was laughing and pointing and making fun of
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her. And she said, "I will never trust anyone again." And my mind was damn straight. Noting person. You trust your
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mama and that's it. That's not the right thing to do, right? You want a kid who can develop trust with others. So I
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said, "Trust is really hard." She said, "I don't understand it." I said, "Trust is the marble jar. Every time you share
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something with someone that's confidential and they don't share it, they get a marble." when you want to
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share something really private and personal, you look for a friend whose jar is full of marbles. Do you have any
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marble jar friends? And she said, "Hannah and Lorna." And I said, "Why? They've got big marble jars that are
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full." And I said, this was why it was crazy. Tell me something they do to earn marbles. Oh, well, like if I get to my
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tray late at lunch and there's no place to sit, Laura will scoot over and give me half her seat and I can sit at the
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table. And then the other day when I had streped throat, Hannah was worried about
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me. So remember her mom called and said, "Hannah's worried about Ellen. Why wasn't she at school?" But then the
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biggest thing that Hannah did was the other day and Opa, my parents, came to my soccer game and Hannah looked over
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and goes, "Oh my god, your ma and Opa are here." And I said, "Why was that a big deal?" And she goes, "Because
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everybody's divorced and remarried and I've got four sets of people." And she remembered their names. And what was
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shocking to me is that Ellen was conveying that these marbles were being earned on
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these very small. She knew my grandparents' name. She gave me a seat to sit at. She checked on me when I was
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missing school. Trust is built slowly over time, a marble at a time. And that's how that's how we teach trust to
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the most senior leaders in Fortune 100 companies. Leaders believe that in the middle of a crisis, you can just look at
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your people and say, "Trust me, here's what we're going to do." And it means nothing to people. What matters is the
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leader that walks past you in the morning and says, "Hey, good to see Stephen. How's your mom's chemo going?"
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Marbles. Marbles. Then when the crisis happens, you don't need to say, "Trust me." You just need to say what's on your
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mind. They trust you.

Episode Highlights

  • The Marble Jar Theory
    A heartfelt lesson on trust using marbles as a metaphor for building relationships.
    ā€œTrust is built slowly over time, a marble at a time.ā€
    @ 02m 04s
    November 04, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • I will never trust anyone again.
    THIS IS HOW TO EARN TRUST 😮
  • Trust is really hard.
    THIS IS HOW TO EARN TRUST 😮
  • Trust is built slowly over time, a marble at a time.
    THIS IS HOW TO EARN TRUST 😮

Key Moments

  • Ellen's Breakdown00:11
  • Marble Jar Explanation00:47
  • Building Trust02:07
  • Crisis Leadership02:15

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