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There has been an 80-year cover up of the existence of non-human intelligent life covered up by elements of the US
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government. But this past Friday, the first trunch of evidence was released to the public.
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>> And the evidence is absolutely clear that there is some form of life with
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advanced technology. They're all over the place. >> But the people involved in gatekeeping
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this information don't think the public can handle the truth. People have had
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their lives threatened. A lot of them are afraid to come forward and tell the White House what they know. And this has
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been kept from even sitting presidents and I've interviewed highle intelligence
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officials and government officials and there have been UAP crashes over the years and in some cases the crashed
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crafts had the bodies of nonhumans in >> and now we have people on ships seeing
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these things enter the water it's seen enough times under enough different conditions that we just have to accept
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that it's real. >> So what exactly is inside this report? We have so many sightings, even access
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to materials. >> And there's a number of files, reports, video, and still images that were
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declassified. And the most notable piece of evidence in there is this. So, I have
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so many questions. You're probably familiar with this NASA report. They essentially say that they didn't believe
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that these UAPs are aliens. Why would NASA be lying? Is there a reason why this stuff hasn't been captured on like
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an iPhone? Are they currently living amongst us? And then do you trust the Trump administration to release all of
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the available information? >> I think eventually we'll get to that moment that we've all only seen in
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on with the show. Dr. Harold Dan, I wanted to have a conversation with both of you today
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because you are two of the most popular voices online on this subject of UAPs, which is unidentified anomalous
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phenomena. >> Right. Exactly. >> It has been in all the news recently
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because Trump a couple of days ago released 400 classified files containing videos and photos and different reports
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on this subject of UAPs. Now, I don't have an opinion. I I honestly haven't gone that far down the rabbit
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hole on this subject, but I wanted to have the conversation with both of you because you do have opinions. So,
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starting with you, Dan, what is your background and as it relates to this subject of UAPs, what is it that you
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believe that most people don't know or understand? >> My interest in this topic comes from my
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childhood. And so, over the years, I just I read every book on the topic, watched every doc. I always wish someone
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had made a super serious, credible, sober documentary that only interviews people who have direct knowledge of this
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topic as a result of working for the US government. And so got into producing. As I was getting access to high level
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intelligence officials and government officials before I even filmed, I really quickly learned how serious and real the
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situation is and how uh serious it's treated behind the scenes. And you know,
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I made this movie, The Age of Disclosure, in secrecy over three and a half years. And I would say the
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headlines that I learned that the average person doesn't know is that there has in fact been an 80-year cover
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up of the existence of non-human intelligent life. It has been covered up by elements of the US government since
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at least the late 40s. Other nations have also covered this up. And the other major headline is that the people who
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within the US government that have been gatekeeping this, they've also been involved in a highstakes secret cold war
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race with adversarial nations like China and Russia to reverse engineer this technology of non-human origin. And and
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the stakes couldn't be higher. Those are the two massive headlines. And and I'm
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proud to say when the film came out, it created a national conversation uh at at
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an unprecedented level and it led to President Trump issuing this directive in the middle of February. Super
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unprecedented historic directive instructing federal agencies to start declassifying evidence it has they have
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of non-human intelligent life and UAP. And then that process began this past Friday. the first trunch of evidence was
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released to the public. >> And during the process of producing this documentary,
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who did you speak to? >> I got access to the highest levels of the government, military, and
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intelligence community. My interview subjects range from Secretary Rubio, who's also our National Security Adviser
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now, White House National Security Council members, Navy Fighter pilots, admirals, generals, former secretary of
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defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations. Every single person is
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extremely credible. Howal how is one of my interview subjects. 's uh one of the
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most senior scientists uh to work on this topic for the US government in classified projects and him and all
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these other people interviewed. They had a lot of information they could legally
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share over the years, but they were always discouraged from doing so and they never really had the opportunity to
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comfortably do it. No one wanted to be the one guy out on a limb saying something extraordinary on CNN or Fox or
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60 Minutes and then being subject to the the push back and the ridicule. And so when I realized that I I started
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socializing a plan for how to step out of the shadows arm and arm with safety and numbers.
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>> I'll pick up on that point there where you talked about safety and numbers. How
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he he mentioned you there. You're part of the documentary. I saw you as well in
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the trailer of the documentary. What is your background and why what reference points are you drawing on to speak on
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the subject of UAPs and UFOs etc? I'm a quantum physicist worked for the National Security Agency for various uh
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organizations in the intelligence community like CIA and so on. And so as part of my technical work uh I was also
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a consultant uh chief science adviser to Robert Bigalow of Bigalow Aerospace. He's really quite quite a titan. I mean
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he has two space stations orbiting the Earth. So anyway, th those people who are in in the space business and they're
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moving out into space, they just can't help but wondering, you know, what are
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we going to run into when when we get out there? As a science adviser to him, uh it turned out that the Defense
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Intelligence Agency came forward and said, uh you know, we need to find out uh really what's going on in the
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so-called UAP area. >> So you worked with someone called Robert Bigalow. He's the guy who knows
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everything about what is possible in terms of aerospace technology and and anything that would be in the air or
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space. Simply put, one day, one of his colleagues comes into his office, pulls him into a skiff and shows him a video
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that Air Force security guards took over a nuclear weapons site. It was a triangle UAP hovering over a nuclear
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weapon site. this colleague said, "Please tell me this is one of ours, like one of our
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black projects, you know, some advanced cutting edge technology that's ours."
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And he knew instinctively it it was not. That set him down a rabbit hole. He's
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like, "There's got to be some office somewhere in the intelligence community
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that handles UFOs." So, he went all over trying to find it, him and his colleague. They couldn't find one. So,
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then they determined they were just going to start a UAP program. That program they started was called OAP.
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They hired all the team, for example, HAL. And that program started in 2008. Um, and got a lot of push back behind
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the scenes because it turned out when they looked all over the intelligence community to see if there was another
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UFO program and didn't think there was, turns out there was one. And there was a
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deeply hidden program referred to as the legacy program. >> And it had been operating in the shadows
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since the ' 40s, uh, outside of congressional oversight, outside of the oversight of the White House. um
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completely, you know, off off >> completely hidden away. Yeah. >> As hidden as a program could be. And so
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they started pushing back behind the scenes against everyone involved in OAP because they didn't want anyone else
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looking into this, right? Started to cause a lot of bureaucratic issues for them, red tape issues, and ultimately
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OAP lost its funding in 2010 despite the fact that it was looking into very real
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issues like UAP over our nuclear weapons sites. It shut down in 2010. Why do you
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think it shut down? >> They were dealt uh these bureaucratic hurdles behind the scenes by people
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involved in the legacy program. People who just caused problems and prevented funding and it's a lot of you know it's
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a big bureaucracy. People can people can do things behind the scenes to prevent funding from coming through uh for
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programs. And so ultimately they lost their their funding in 2010. and then Jay Stratton and other people involved.
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They were continuing to look into this because they they didn't want this serious national security concern to go,
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you know, on uninvestigated, right? >> So that's how somebody like me gets
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pulled in. They say, "Okay, these pilots are out there and they suddenly see
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craft coming out of the ocean and making right angle turns at 6G or whatever."
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And they say, "Oh my god, this is way beyond our physics." So I and other
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physicists sort of dug into you know what could be responsible for this and we actually found that just like we use
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so-called Maxwell's equations and electromagnetic stuff for everything we do in electromagnetics
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we have Einstein's equations in general relativity for you know black holes and
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all that kind of stuff but turns out if you could engineer those you would actually get the same effects that
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people were observing with these UAP crafts so we think we've come up with you know what it is about uh the science
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of it. It's just that we don't have the engineering to do it. >> Do you believe in UAPs?
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>> Absolutely believe in UAPs because I've been exposed to data about them.
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>> A more specific question would be, do you believe in aliens? >> Yeah. So, a number of the people I
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interviewed went on the record stating that they know from their own personal experiences that there have been UAP
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crashes over the years that have been recovered by elements of the US government. And in some cases, the the
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crashed crafts had the bodies of non-humans in them. And numerous people I interviewed went on the record saying
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that. And keep in mind, everyone I interviewed only shared what they lawfully could. there was a line they
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couldn't cross. Everyone I interviewed is aware of classified information. They
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they they can't talk about, but they went right up to the line and uh made it
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clear that there had been recoveries of non-human bodies. A couple people actually testified under oath to
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Congress saying the same thing. >> Why wouldn't they be able to talk about
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it publicly? >> Well, when you're involved in certain programs, uh you sign certain agreements
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that prevent you from sharing right specific >> information, highly classified programs.
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And of course the big concern is okay whatever we might learn about these kind of craft and and so on. Our adversaries
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are out there and probably been there have been crashes in Russia, crashes in China. And so if we reveal what we're
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learning about the subject area and you know said it publicly then it might help
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some potential adversary step get a step ahead. So >> that's why it's all just kept really
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close in. >> So a saying that I heard often from my interview subjects, you can't tell your
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friends without telling your enemies. Meaning you can't tell the public what
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we know and don't know without also telling China and Russia what we know and don't know. And giving them that
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information might give them a competitive advantage. And the the obvious question anyone would ask when
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hearing that is then well, okay, so what's shifted? Why is why is that no longer the leading thought? Secrecy is
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best. And the answer is because the US is in a really high stakes race, a technology race against these
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adversaries to reverse engineer technology of non-human origin. And the secrecy around it in the US since the '
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40s has created a scenario where the scientific community and academia don't
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even know it's real. They don't even know it's a valid area of inquiry.
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>> Don't even believe it's real. >> Yeah. I mean the smartest kids
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graduating at MIT this year, they are not thinking that this is something they can put their brain power towards.
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>> So come back to the question, do you believe in aliens? >> I 100% believe that non-human
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intelligent life is here and has been here for a long time. >> When you say here, do you mean currently
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living amongst us? >> I don't know about the living amongst us part about that.
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>> I don't know about that, but >> rule it out. There is there is UAP
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activity being reported on a daily basis by commercial airlines pilot commercial
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aine pilots to the FAA by Navy fighter pilots off the east coast being reported you know up the military chain of
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command and on top of that uh regular activity over on nuclear weapons sites inside the United States. It's happening
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on a regular basis uh on the on on the nuclear sites and on a daily basis in commercial air travel space.
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>> UAP have come over nuclear uh missile sites and actually turned off the
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missiles. And so, you know, once something like that happens, you just got to take it
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seriously. >> And there the technology that they're displaying is technology that no humans
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have. And again, there has been some crashes. And in those crashes, there have been
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the bodies of nonhumans. >> How do we know that? How do we know that in those crashes they've recovered
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bodies of nonhumans? >> The whistleblowers basically coming forward from the
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>> So the basis of the that evidence is that some people have said it >> at this point until until
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previously classified information regarding crashes is and recoveries is declassified. Mhm.
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>> Until that happens, the best we could hope for is credible people putting
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their reputation on the line to tell you this is what's been happening. >> Did someone during your process of
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making the documentary who had seen non-alien non-human life, non-human intelligence tell you that?
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>> Yeah. >> Who was that? >> A number of people, but notably, you
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know, uh Jay Stratton, who we just talked about. >> Yes. Right. who co-created, co-founded
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OAP and then became the director of the UAP task force, the largest whole of government investigation of UAP ever.
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>> What did he say? >> He went on the record in the film saying that he's seen non-human beings and
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non-human craft with his own eyes. That was the farthest he could go at that point.
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>> Why did he say he couldn't go further? >> Uh he he he he had a situation that he
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was involved in that um for a few reasons. He wasn't he just wasn't comfortable talking about it yet. And
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some of it I think he just wanted to make sure he legally could. Now going back to credibility like take a guy like
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Jay saying that when Jay retired a few years back he was part of the senior executive services of the federal
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government. That's a level less than 1% of all federal employees ever reach. You
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know it's the equivalent of a twoar admiral or general. Um very very senior very trusted you know cleared at a very
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high level. Um he had worked with naval intelligence in a senior capacity. uh he
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had worked with the CIA, he had worked with the Defense Intelligence Agency as the head of air and space warfare. He's
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a super serious, credible guy. >> Yeah. >> And he's he's he's putting his
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reputation on the line to share this information um to the extent that he legally could
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and comfortably could. >> And when you asked him why the world doesn't know this stuff in his
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view, what did he what would he say? >> There's a lot of reasons. I mean
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certainly the you know the idea that we can't tell our friends without telling
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our enemies has been a driver to just to recap the reasons for secrecy I I I actually believe it it's better kind of
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start from the beginning when this first when when in 1947 there was a crash at Roswell of non-human origin and uh yeah
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RA RAF captures flying saucer on ranch in Roswell region. Yeah that's right >> and then this is the image of their
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coverup story trying to show a weather ballooner. Yeah. So, multiple people might film go on the record saying the
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Roswell crash really happened. Uh, technology of non-human origin and non-human bodies were recovered. Um, if
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you put yourself in the shoes of the military and government at that point, like put yourself in Truman and, you
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know, Eisenhower shoes, you're just coming out of World War II. The world was just chaos for a very long time.
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It's finally starting to settle down. You can't exactly step to the microphone
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and tell America that there's a new threat that we know nothing about and we
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can't protect you from. They're far advanced. You know what? But what's the
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advantage of that? So secrecy became the plan at that point and they had more questions than answers. So everyone I've
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talked to who gave me context uh explained that the the the the plan for secrecy went in motion there. Uh let's
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investigate. Let's find out more about what we don't know before we tell the
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American people. That was quickly followed by the Cold War era and we learned that Russia also had retrieved
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technology of non-human origin. And so we knew we were in a technology race. So then the idea of can't tell your friend
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without telling your enemy ruled the day. So now the cold war mentality, you know, led to more secrecy. And as a
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security rapper for this this program that it that it started, uh they created the stigma in the late 40s, early 50s,
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this cultural stigma, this idea that you're crazy if you look into this topic. You're wacky. You'll have your
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reputation ruined. You'll have your career ruined. It was actually a CIA meeting where people got together and
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said, "Okay, in order to not have people be pursuing this area, let's go out of
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our way to spread what we would call now disinformation about >> basically the most effective
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disinformation campaign in the history of the US government because it got into our culture. Some movies were funded
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that made aliens seem silly and the idea of life from elsewhere seem ridiculous and that got compounded over the years
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and then we got to the point where where we were like you know just just like few
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years ago where the average person just thinks it's not real. You know the average scientists academia
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>> you know they think it's conspiracy stuff. It's nonsense. It's silly. Um
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there was no advantage for elected leaders to get in front of this or for military members to you know speak up
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about what they learned or saw. it would be a career ruiner. Um, and uh, that started to shift uh, several years back
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when Jay Stratton and Jim Lowsky when they put together OAP in 2010 and they started to go out there and collect data
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um, and get evidence and they started to actually share it with the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate
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Armed Service Committee and looking at classified data in a classified setting. People like Marco Rubio, who was the
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vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time, started to realize, you know,
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>> there's something here. >> Not only is there something here, but
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we've got a problem, right? There's a lot of lot of UAP activity over these
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highly classified sites like our nuclear weapons sites. There's a lot at stake.
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We are in this, you know, race with other nations. And the stigma has created a disadvantage for us. It's very
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hard to win a technology race when the majority of your scientists don't know
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it's a valid area of inquiry, right? And do people think that there's one type of
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non-human intelligence that's visiting the earth or is there many many types?
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>> People who have been involved in recoveries have said >> there at least four types. Four separate
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types. Now I have not had direct access to that but I I believe the people who I
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talked to >> four different types of life. >> Four different types of life at least.
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And the people I've talked through to, you know, through the process of making
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the documentary, both on camera and off the record sources and the people how's
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talked to over the decades have said that there are there have been dozens of recoveries of crashed craft in the US
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alone. Dozens of craft of non-human origin that either crashed organically or caused a crash and then recovered.
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And have you spoken to people who you talked about Jay. Have you spoken to other people that have worked on these
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crashed crafts? >> I've tal I've talked off the record with some people who are involved in
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recoveries. >> They would not go on camera to do interviews. Special forces people that
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would not go on camera to do interviews. One I actually thought I've I've
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mentioned this in another interview, but um one I thought was going to do an interview and then a couple days before
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sent me a message saying after further consideration and long talks with my wife, I decided I'd be forfeiting my
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life if I participated in your interview. >> And I thought that was like veryill very
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unsettling message to get obviously but also very specific word choice, you know, forfeiting my life.
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>> What did he know? He was a special very senior special forces guy who had told
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me he had been involved in multiple recoveries. That's what he told me. >> Okay.
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>> And I met him through uh some high level intelligence people. Early on in my
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process, I got connected with the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee and they had on
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their own learned the reality of the situation through the work of OAP and then ATIP and then the UAP task force
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and through their own their own intelligence channels. Leaders on those committees wanted to educate the public
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about what they could lawfully about this, but they didn't really have a way
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to do it. It's such a complicated situation. It takes a while to explain it. You can't do it in like a six-inute
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news head on Fox or CNN or even like a 15inute 60-minute segment. You just can't do it. And no one wanted to be the
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one guy trying to do it. So, when I started putting together the film and socializing this safe way for people to
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step forward, uh it also quickly became those people's plan for disclosure. That's why Secretary Rubio participated.
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That's why White House National Security Council members participated. It became
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amongst the group of people would learn the truth. It became the plan for disclosure. The way to bring this
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information out in a thoughtful way. >> Do the presidents of the United States
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know about this stuff? Are they aware? >> Historically, no. >> Historically,
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>> yeah. And even Rubio says on camera that, you know, historically this has
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been kept from even sitting presidents. >> Who would know then? So, a number of the
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people in my film break down um who's involved in the legacy program. You know, simp to put it simply, it's
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elements of the CIA, elements of the Air Force, elements of the Department of Energy, and a few major defense
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contractors. And they have the ability to access information from a number of federal agencies and branches of the
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military. But the the primary leaders of this program are the CIA, the Air Force,
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the Department of Energy, and major defense contractors. and Rubio breaks down in the film the way our bureaucracy
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works. Um, you could have career bureaucrats in positions of power at those organizations for decades and they
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can just wait out sitting presidents. They can wait out >> senators sitting presidents as just
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temporary help that are going to come and go. >> And that's what's been happening up
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until this point now. So the fact that Rubio had learned so much about the reality of the situation and the extent
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of the cover up and then ended up arguably the second most powerful guy in the world as our secretary of state and
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our national security adviser at the same time, >> which has only happened once in US
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history, Henry Kissinger for two years, >> no one else has ever had both those jobs
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at the same time. the fact that he ended up in that position of power and influence after learning the reality of
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the situation and right as the age of disclosure is coming out and driving this national conversation it really led
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to the current President Trump being informed about this in a way that no president has in a very long time. So,
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are you saying that the United States don't think the public are ready to even
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know that this exists? Because, you know, they could tell us that they have recovered UAPs or aliens, whatever it
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might be, without telling us about the technology. >> They could, and I think we're going to
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get to that point. >> Yeah. I think they they were trapped in in this system that had that had grown
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up. And uh people behind the scenes working in the classified programs said, "Well, you know, we don't know how the
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public is going to respond." So, let's be safe and let's let's just keep it in
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house. >> Do you think Trump believes that there are aliens? Because I I was looking at
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some of his quotes and he said, "Well, I don't know if they're real or not. I
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don't have an opinion on it. I never talk about it. A lot of people do. A lot
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of people believe it." >> Barack Obama said that aliens are real. >> Well, he gave classified information.
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He's not supposed to be doing that, you know. >> So, aliens are real. >> No, I don't I don't have an opinion on
00:25:13
it. I never talk about it. A lot of people do. A lot of people believe it. >> Do you believe it, Peter?
00:25:20
>> Uh, well, if the president can declassify anything that he wants to, so
00:25:25
I may get him out of trouble by declassifying. >> One of the things that came out in the
00:25:29
age of disclosure is that during Trump's first administration, his cabinet was briefed by the UAP task
00:25:39
force, by J Stratton. And when he briefed them, uh, he was told that they had asked for this briefing because they
00:25:47
needed to be able to evaluate what the repercussions would be if Trump decided to step to the microphone and tell the
00:25:52
world we're not alone in the universe. Obviously, he didn't end up deciding to
00:25:56
do that then. However, in this new administration, he's got Rubio in the position of
00:26:02
Secretary of State and National Security Adviser and fully aware of the situation
00:26:06
and that has given him the comfort to put this this process in motion. There's
00:26:10
certainly a disclosure process unfolding right now. >> Obama said in an interview that he did
00:26:15
with Brian Tyler Cohen, when asked about aliens, Obama said, "They're real, but I
00:26:21
haven't seen them. They're not being kept at Area 51. There's no underground
00:26:25
facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the president of the United States." Now,
00:26:30
that sounded to me like kind of sarcasm when he said, "They're real, but" and
00:26:33
then explained all that they're not real. >> They're real, but I haven't seen them.
00:26:37
and and and uh they're not being kept in uh Area 51. Uh there there's no
00:26:42
underground uh facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they they
00:26:49
hid it from the president of the United States. >> So it would appear to me that Obama also
00:26:54
doesn't know of any aliens. >> I think Obama is largely kept in the dark. I think he does know that the base
00:27:01
fact that we're not alone in the universe. And I actually think when he said they're real, I think he was being
00:27:06
that was just candid honest >> that was his honest candid genuine statement. I think when he then said
00:27:12
they're not kept at Area 51, I think he's also being honest cuz none of my
00:27:16
sources say that UAP and aliens are being kept at Area 51, they're being kept somewhere else. Um, so I think he
00:27:23
was being honest there. And I think when he made the comment of uh unless there's
00:27:28
a giant conspiracy, if you watch the tape, he like sips his cup and raises his eyebrow as he said. I think he knows
00:27:34
there's a giant conspiracy. That's the truth. The following day, uh, Trump was
00:27:37
asked about that on Air Force One and he responded saying Obama revealed classified information and he shouldn't
00:27:43
have said that. And, um, I think that's the truth. >> Yeah. >> I think presidents don't don't know and
00:27:50
they're and they're told not to talk about it. >> Trump has started to release a lot of
00:27:54
classified information around UAP and aliens. The first batch of that was released a couple of days ago. What
00:28:00
exactly is inside this report? >> There was a number of files, reports, uh
00:28:07
video and uh still images that were declassified. This is information that previously had been classified or just
00:28:17
never really made public. Um this was just the first trunch of uh what has been what will be released. Uh the most
00:28:25
notable piece of evidence in there is an image, a still image from the 1972 Apollo mission. It's an image of a
00:28:33
triangle, a seemingly triangle-shaped craft hovering above the moon and above the astronauts. And the image was taken
00:28:40
from uh the from the lunar module. And um you know, the UAP task force looked into this image years ago uh and
00:28:48
determined it was real. That seems to be the most glaring piece of evidence in this this tunch. But I will say this,
00:28:54
how and I both have the same a lot of the same sources of information. And everyone we've talked to at various
00:29:01
federal agencies has told us that when the president gave this directive in middle of February for federal agencies
00:29:07
to declassify evidence of non-human intelligent life and UAP, only a few engaged with it. They only gave a small
00:29:16
percent of what they have >> and they only had a couple weeks to do it. Mhm.
00:29:20
>> One of the things I I think I've always struggled with with the idea of these
00:29:23
kind of conspiracies um is that I don't know why that information would necessarily fall into the hands of like
00:29:31
government officials because you know alien life forms or UAPs would be visible and would land in anyone's back
00:29:38
garden. So you would you could imagine a world especially in a world where we have I don't know like 8 billion iPhones
00:29:43
roaming around. Can imagine a world where if there was some kind of UAP crash in my garden, it would be on Tik
00:29:49
Tok within 5 minutes. >> Yeah. >> Or if there really was >> someone got there with an iPhone. You're
00:29:53
right. >> You know, there was that incident earlier in the year with those were they
00:29:57
drones in in America flying >> Jersey and that was on social media within minutes and everyone was talking about
00:30:04
it and looking at what they were. I I don't know. I think in the modern world
00:30:06
because we have so many ways to capture high quality video, if there was something out there, we would have seen
00:30:14
a very clear image of this thing by now. >> That's why there there's a lot that came
00:30:19
out in these files because over the years, our sensor systems that the pilots have in their planes have gotten
00:30:26
so much better. They've captured really astounding. >> Does this life want to be seen? Do these
00:30:32
aliens want us to know they're there? I'd have to assume that given the level
00:30:36
of quality of of their technology, if they didn't want to be seen, we we wouldn't be seeing them. So, it seems
00:30:42
like I would say there's evidence that for whatever reason, they're they're
00:30:47
they're wanting to be seen. >> But also, like I my personal opinion is
00:30:51
that if someone answers that question, they're answering it through the lens of
00:30:55
like how humans think, right? For all we know, you know, we're we're ants to
00:31:01
them. You know, you don't hide from the ants. You walk around them, you don't
00:31:04
even but you also don't pay attention to them. You know, >> based on their behavior from the
00:31:07
interviews you've done, >> how do you think they view us? >> I I honestly feel like the dynamic is,
00:31:15
you know, we are very very far below them on the food chain. You know, Hal makes an analogy in the film. He says,
00:31:21
"The ants in your treeine in your backyard, they could be there for generations. You never think about them.
00:31:28
You walk around them. You don't you're not hiding from them, but like they're
00:31:31
there and you don't really care, right? But what happens if they evolve one day
00:31:35
and out of nowhere they figured out how to get into your house and they've beelined under your under your door and
00:31:40
they're in your living room, right? We might have evolved technologically over
00:31:45
the last 80 years since we cracked the atom so quickly that we're now, you know, the equivalent of the ants showing
00:31:51
up in their living room. Like all of a sudden, >> all of a sudden this waring species,
00:31:56
this violent species, humans, you know, >> um >> we have we we progressed so quickly. We
00:32:02
went from >> no real technological prog progress for a very long time to cracking the atom
00:32:07
and then figuring out nuclear technology and then continuing to increase, you know, our our nuclear technology
00:32:13
development. And you know, we have this program that has been retrieving their crash craft and trying to reverse
00:32:20
engineer them. So we might be at that point where we're about to do what they
00:32:24
do and all of a sudden we are a problem. Um that might be the explanation of why
00:32:29
they pay so much attention to our nuclear process. You know there's a lot of UAP activity not only at the nuclear
00:32:34
weapons sites all over the world but um sites involved in the process the nuclear process like uranium mines or
00:32:42
refineries. Is it, you know, >> it might just be we've gotten to the point where all of a sudden they have
00:32:47
they have to >> in uh in the Soviet Union, the UAP came over and actually started a launch of
00:32:58
the Russian missiles. I mean, it actually forced the system to start into a countdown process.
00:33:03
>> How do we know that? >> By the intelligence community's uh access to information about it. Every
00:33:10
person we spoke to in Beloraviche said they saw a flying saucer on that day. For hours, it hovered over the nearby
00:33:17
ballistic missile base. No one had touched any buttons. No one had entered any codes. And yet, as the UFO hovered
00:33:25
over the base, the control panel showed the missiles were preparing to launch. For 15 agonizing seconds, the base lost
00:33:33
control of its nuclear weapons. Logically, I would think that unusual activity would happen around
00:33:41
consequential sites. >> Yes. >> You know, I'd be more surprised if there
00:33:44
was really frequent unusual activity happening in my back garden, for example. But around highly consequential
00:33:51
sites, one would expect there to be people flying things around there, spying. You know what people are like
00:33:56
with cameras these days? They want to take photos of anything interesting. They they hang around police stations
00:34:00
and army barracks, >> right? Right. >> So logically I would assume that there
00:34:03
would be an increased probability of strange activity in the sky above a nuclear site.
00:34:08
>> Well, in fact, there was a group of people in the intelligence community who
00:34:12
who recognize exactly what you're saying. And so they decided to, you know, make an attractive magnet by
00:34:20
getting a whole lot of nuclear uh assets in one location to see if that would draw them in. And my understanding it
00:34:28
was successful. So, you know, our nation and other nations have figured out circumstances that can, for lack of a
00:34:34
better term, bait UAP. >> Um, a certain level of nuclear footprint in a in a small radius tends to attract
00:34:44
them >> and um, our nation figured that out a long time ago and and so did other
00:34:49
nations. >> One of the things that I've thought about is I I know very little about
00:34:52
physics, but I know one thing I know is how big the universe is. Now, I'm quite
00:34:57
a big fan of SpaceX. I'm actually an investor in the company and um >> from my fascination with space I've
00:35:02
learned just how big the universe is and how long it would take us to travel from
00:35:07
I don't know earth to the nearest uh galaxy. The closest star system to us which is called Alpha Centuria.
00:35:14
>> Alpha Centuria right >> is over four light years away which is about 40 24 trillion miles.
00:35:21
>> Mhm. If we traveled at the impossible 10% of the speed of light, which is
00:35:26
impossible, currently impossible, it would take a ship 40 years to get there. >> Now, fortunately, what we learned in
00:35:34
looking at what might be the underlying physics and using Einstein's theory of
00:35:38
general relativity, it turns out that there are ways of modifying the effective speed of light to make it much
00:35:46
higher or much lower. So, you you you can do that. So, so when you get into potentially modifying
00:35:54
what we call the space-time metric, you could get to a point where you can make wormholes and warp drives. And those are
00:36:02
things that are not off the charts. I mean, there are actually textbooks by general relativity experts on on the
00:36:09
fact that you could re-engineer the spacetime. So you could do it. You could get from here to there.
00:36:14
>> But you're not saying you would travel in like a like a a a line like you do in
00:36:19
a plane, right? >> Well, you could you you could it if if you arrange for the effective speed of
00:36:25
light in that line to be much higher than without breaking the speed of light, you can zoom over there very
00:36:33
quickly. So you even even in in a straight line. uh >> but no no one at the moment knows how to
00:36:40
do that on earth. >> We can write the equations and see how it doesn't violate our physics equations
00:36:47
but we don't have the uh engineering. So we figured out basically we figured
00:36:53
out >> how these how these craft are operating the theory of it but we don't have the
00:36:59
material sciences right what you say right to replicate it >> what I'm pointing out is if you travel
00:37:03
at that speed across the universe if you even hit I don't know an object the size
00:37:07
of a pebble it would be like a nuclear explosion >> the thing is if you're modifying uh
00:37:13
space it's sort of like making like like a surfer wave on on on you know at the
00:37:19
the seashore you you arrange to have space moving ahead like that. So you come up to a rock, it's just going to
00:37:26
push it aside. >> So you can engineer that. >> This is how I've wrapped my head around
00:37:30
it. Um, essentially they're they're warping spaceime in a localized area.
00:37:34
They're creating an immense amount of energy around the craft and it creates
00:37:38
essentially a bubble around the craft and that bubble separates the craft from the environment around it.
00:37:44
>> So the environment has no no impact on the craft. That's why we see transmium
00:37:48
travel like a craft going, you know, smooth from space to air to the water without even a splash. The environment
00:37:56
around the bubble has no bearing on the craft inside it. And the craft inside it
00:38:01
is in its own spaceime. And once you wrap your head around that, then things like interstellar travel become totally
00:38:08
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I'll see you over there. One of the paradoxes with this is they appear to be such so advanced in their
00:40:17
physics >> and their technology if I should call it that. But at the same time they seem to
00:40:22
be crashing a lot which is >> well actually some of them have not crashed but have been simply left in the
00:40:32
desert sort of like a gift or a donation. >> We're we're still trying to figure that
00:40:37
out. So I mean some of them do do crash and and uh it can have maybe some of our
00:40:43
electromagnetic pulsing and laser pulsing can interfere with their technology and and and you might get a
00:40:49
crash. Why why don't you why do you think another country hasn't come forward with similar disclosures and
00:40:55
similar evidence? I >> actually think there's a really simple answer for that. Um I think our allies
00:41:01
follow the US's lead, >> right? >> And I think our adversaries, primarily China and Russia,
00:41:07
>> have no reason to go public. They don't have the same sort of societies and
00:41:12
dynamics like she can do what he wants anyway. What's what's the advantage to
00:41:16
him? Same thing with Putin. you know, there is no advantage. And when you look at it that way, you really quickly get
00:41:22
to the, you know, this is the way it is for that reason. >> They did a study in 2026 and found that
00:41:27
45 planets are likely capable of supporting life. They called this the habitable zone. Out of more than 6,000
00:41:36
planets discovered so far by NASA. >> Mhm. >> Um, there are approximately a trillion
00:41:40
galaxies in the universe and within these galaxies, 100,000 planets could potentially host life, according to
00:41:46
Oxford University. Now, I believe that if you think about the entire universe, I believe that we're not the only life
00:41:55
in the universe. >> Yes. Right. >> I think that's I mean, >> I think that's a very scientific
00:41:59
conclusion. >> Probabilistically, it would be pretty incredible if we were. I mean, it' be
00:42:03
just it's almost inconceivable that we are. The question of whether that life
00:42:07
has been here is a question that for me is still a big question mark because I just you know I also I think Elon you
00:42:14
know whatever you think about Elon he is someone that seems to just say what he thinks and this is part of what's caused
00:42:19
his companies a lot of problem is he seems to be pretty unfiltered. He has been asked multiple times as well if he
00:42:25
believes that they are there are aliens in the in in our galaxy and he has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't
00:42:31
believe that to be the case and you know he's launching rockets all the time. He
00:42:34
said, I heard him say, "If anyone should know, it should be me." Do you think he knows?
00:42:40
>> I think that you can't operate in space at at at the level he does or operate as
00:42:48
a contractor at the level he does um without having clearances that require secrecy. You know, there's there's
00:42:57
there's all kinds of uh levels of secrecy. You know, there's everyone knows the word classified, right?
00:43:02
There's classified projects, but there's also black projects that are unagnowledged special access programs
00:43:08
where you literally by law required to not acknowledge the existence of the program or anything it does. That's
00:43:15
literally the >> anything it knows. >> Yeah, that's literally the whole that
00:43:19
they're literally referred to as unagnowledged special access programs. All of his team as well with
00:43:24
>> So if you're involved with an on special access program and someone asks you
00:43:27
about it, >> you you have to say you have no idea what they're talking about
00:43:30
>> and all of his team >> if if they are a part of the program. Yeah. But just because someone's um read
00:43:36
it on an unagnowledged special access program doesn't mean all their employees
00:43:41
are. Elon said um that we have 9,000 satellites up there. He's referring to his company Starink. And not once have
00:43:47
we had to maneuver around an alien spaceship. He argues that if aliens were constantly visiting Earth, the aerospace
00:43:53
experts who watch the skies every day would be the first to know. >> Well, look, NASA also has said for
00:43:59
decades that they had no evidence of extraterrestrial life or UAPs, and last Friday, the federal government released
00:44:06
a photo of a triangle craft hovering over the 1972 Apollo space mission. So, somebody's somebody's not being honest,
00:44:13
>> right? >> You know, which also implies a lot of other people know things that they
00:44:17
haven't revealed. I I think I've heard you say before, how that you think this
00:44:22
intelligent life actually exists amongst us. Yeah. The quote was, "They are not
00:44:26
occasional visitors. They live secretly alongside humans, but with advanced technology.
00:44:31
>> We have so many sightings and so many uh even access to materials and so on. I
00:44:39
mean, they're all over the place. >> 65% of Americans believe intelligent
00:44:42
life exists on other planets. Uh 40% of people say military reported UFOs are probably evidence of extraterrestrial
00:44:49
life >> according to Pew Research. And 30% of Americans believe UFOs or unidentified
00:44:53
flying objects are probably alien ships of life form. And 47% of Americans believe aliens have definitely or
00:44:59
probably visited Earth at some point. According to Yuggov, half of Americans believe that UFOs/
00:45:07
aliens have definitely or probably visited life at some point. >> Quite a lot of people. Well, you see you
00:45:14
see the the age of disclosure film and the people that came forward. I mean, you had Clapper, ex uh head of the
00:45:22
office of director of national intelligence and senator Rubio at the time now in his elevated position and so
00:45:30
on. You now have people of real quality and you know they're not lying and they're coming forth and saying this is
00:45:38
real and we got to deal with it and there's a lot we don't know about it.
00:45:44
>> Could you be wrong? >> Um I don't think it's about whether I'm
00:45:48
wrong or Al's wrong. You'd have to believe that senior leadership across
00:45:54
the government, the military, the intelligence community that has access to class information and is saying based
00:46:01
on the classified information they have seen, this is a real situation. You'd
00:46:04
have to believe all of those people are lying for some bizarre unexplained reason.
00:46:10
So, I find that hard to believe. >> Could it be the case that all of those
00:46:13
people were misinterpreting what they were seeing? they they saw something, you know, fighter pilots saw something
00:46:20
moving in their visors when they're up in >> not really because >> I mean in some cases that could be the
00:46:27
case but then when you have actual materials crash craft bodies that aren't human
00:46:34
>> also a lot of these sightings um they're now in the process of the White House
00:46:41
cabinet members are in the process of identifying where the evidence exists within federal federal agencies and the
00:46:47
military so they can get access to it themselves and then determine from there what can safely be shared with the
00:46:54
public. I think once they get their hands on more evidence then a plan will be put in place for telling the world
00:47:00
this conclusion and I think we're we're it's like >> more close
00:47:04
>> fa complete basically like it's going to get to that point relatively soon. If we
00:47:08
get to that point and you get personally invited in to wherever they're keeping
00:47:12
these materials and you get to see every single file that exists and as you go through those files you realize that
00:47:18
a lot of what you've been told is not true because there's other explanations.
00:47:22
How would it like fundamentally change the way that you see the world? Some of some of the UAP we've seen like
00:47:29
take the famous everybody knows the tic tac UFO, right? Uh that Commander Dave Fraver, the Navy fighter pilot
00:47:34
interacted with in 2004, right? I'll put that on the screen for anyone that hasn't seen it.
00:47:38
>> Great. And so take that, take that UAP for example. Multiple data collection
00:47:43
systems and Commander Dave Fraver, a legend in the NA in in the Navy, top gun guy, commander of an entire naval strike
00:47:52
group, right? Like total badass legend legend of a guy. Uh he sees this with his own eyes and a bunch of data
00:47:59
collection systems captured data confirming it's real. This UAP went from hovering above the ocean to instantly
00:48:06
being at 80,000 ft, which is the entrance to space, right? And it did that maneuver all afternoon. The amount
00:48:13
of energy required to do that is so bonkers. It's we do not humans do, no human beings have the ability to create
00:48:21
that much that much energy, right, in a localized area for for >> an aircraft. And and so to answer your
00:48:28
question, if we find out, you know, the unthinkable that this is not non-human intelligent life, that some humans have
00:48:36
figured out how to crack that technology and did it as recent as 2004 when the Tic Tac incident happened. That would
00:48:45
be even more mind-blowing than accepting that life from elsewhere is here and has
00:48:52
been here a long time. Because that would mean that some some group of humans leaprogged the rest of all of
00:48:58
humanity technologically by thousands of years >> and then seemingly did nothing with that
00:49:04
>> or it could be something else. >> That's the nature of unusual things.
00:49:07
They become great stories. So I I think in the case of the tic tac incident again I'm what I'm trying to do is
00:49:12
interrogate this from all angles is could it have been something else? Look, any any isolated event like that, you
00:49:21
could do the whole could it be this, could it be that thing, but it's the it's the you got to take a step back and
00:49:25
look at this the collective. It's one report like that after another from credible people since World War II.
00:49:32
>> You know, during World War II, pilots were seeing what they called Foo Fighters, like these orbs that would
00:49:38
move alongside uh our our fighter jets, right? Like they would like they would move in in line with them. Um,
00:49:45
>> and now we have we have people on ships seeing these things enter the water and
00:49:51
then moving at, you know, >> impossible 50 knots or something which no no human being.
00:49:57
>> As far as I know, our fastest submarines go like 50 miles an hour. >> These things are going hundreds of miles
00:50:01
an hour under the ocean. So these craft are transmedium. They're seen in space,
00:50:06
they're seen in the air, they're seen underwater. >> There's just too much activity to to
00:50:11
ignore it. >> Yeah. And and that would be a hard one to say, well, you know, is there some
00:50:15
sonar thing that makes you think something is doing that? But it's seen enough times under enough different
00:50:21
conditions that we just have to accept that it's real. >> Is there a reason why this hasn't been
00:50:26
captured on like an iPhone when in 4K? There's been a lot of stuff captured on
00:50:32
phones and video cameras in in that scene in the edge of disclosure I mentioned where Hal and some of the
00:50:36
other people break down how these things are working and they describe that they're creating a warp bubble around
00:50:41
the craft. That warp bubble also makes it very hard to get a clear video of something cuz you're you're taking a
00:50:47
photo or a video through essentially a space-time barrier. You know, >> barrier.
00:50:52
>> It's like the equivalent of taking pictures of uh trying to take video of
00:50:56
like koiish in a pond from above the water. it's going to look all distorted
00:51:00
because you're going through the water. If you're if you're trying to video or
00:51:04
take a photo through a this bubble, it makes it pretty hard and you end up with the kind of videos we we see.
00:51:09
>> Um, you're probably familiar with this NASA report that they produced on UAPs,
00:51:14
independent study team report, where they >> they essentially say that they don't
00:51:17
believe that this these UAPs are are aliens. >> Why would NASA be lying? like all these
00:51:24
big bureaucracies, there's people who are aware of the truth and then there's
00:51:27
people who have the truth kept from them. You know, one of the people I interviewed was Mike Gold who was on the
00:51:33
UAP uh the NASA UAP task force and he talked about um how that effort was was flawed from the start. They didn't want
00:51:45
to have a result that said NASA has all this information that they've kept from
00:51:48
the public. They wanted the result that that they landed on, which is there's
00:51:52
nothing to see here. And they were really discouraged from um for example the uh that that image of a triangle,
00:52:00
what clearly appears to be a triangle craft over the moon. Um they were told not to not to include that in their
00:52:06
report. >> Like they were they they they were not set up to tell the world the truth.
00:52:13
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Thank you so much. >> In your view, is it possible that aliens aren't uh aren't real? Is it possible?
00:52:39
Possible. >> So, you think it's impossible? >> Yeah. using the term alien, you know,
00:52:45
has a certain connotation about it. So, we certainly say, I mean, the evidence is absolutely clear that there is some
00:52:51
form of life with advanced technology. You know, if you want to say, well, what can I prove about about it? Well, that
00:52:59
those are still unknowns that we're trying to sus out. >> I got access at a very high to a very
00:53:05
high level of the government, the military intelligence community. And there were a lot of people who talked to
00:53:09
me off the record that wouldn't go on camera. There were a lot of people who
00:53:13
uh couldn't tell me about classified information and want to know classified
00:53:17
information but they all made it very clear um not just on camera but off the record that there that there is evidence
00:53:25
at a classified level that is clear as day like some video taken when like the bubble is turned off and you can see a
00:53:32
cra a a craft of non-human origin clear as day and there is evidence of the technology that's been recovered and of
00:53:39
these bodies and when you when if you put yourself in my shoes, when you have so many senior people across the
00:53:45
military, government intelligence committee telling you this, it's it's really just impossible to ignore it.
00:53:49
Especially when most of them aren't even friends, they're not like ideologically
00:53:53
aligned or politically aligned. They're all just different groups of people.
00:53:57
>> I'm less compelled by eyewitnesses. This is the problem because, you know, I'm
00:54:00
such a big true crime fan. You hear about all the bloody cases where eyewitness said this and then they find
00:54:05
out the serial killer wasn't that person or that thing didn't happen. So, and I
00:54:08
also just have my own experiences of like thinking I saw things when I was younger.
00:54:12
>> Here's an interesting thing you just made me think of. So, in the film, uh,
00:54:15
Rubio and General Jim Clapper, >> two people who are completely ideologically and politically opposed to
00:54:20
each other, >> made the same really intelligent point, and they both have knowledge at a a
00:54:28
classified level of this situation. They both said a problem we as humans have is
00:54:36
that there's something in the human psyche that says I cannot wrap my head around or prepare for things I haven't
00:54:43
seen or experienced. Right? And time and time again throughout history that has proven to be like a human flaw. Right?
00:54:51
Uh Rubio goes on to say that the greatest intelligence failures in US history come from a lack of imagination.
00:54:58
And he cites a few examples. He says, "We never would have imagined the Japanese could figure out how to get
00:55:04
torpedoes through the straits and hit us at Pearl Harbor until they did." Um, he
00:55:09
says, "We never would have imagined terrorists would fly to the homeland, learn to fly commercial planes and then
00:55:15
use them in a terrorist attack until they did." Right? Um he says some other
00:55:19
examples too, but time and time again not wrapping our head around a set of circumstances that and using our
00:55:25
imagination to think about what might happen or what might be happening has it's bit us in the ass. And he he ends
00:55:31
his line of thought by saying lack of imagination leads to strategic surprise like Pearl Harbor, like 9/11. And
00:55:37
sometimes strategic surprise changes the course of history. Mhm. >> And so, you know, him and and other
00:55:43
people I interviewed think it's really important to get ahead of this as opposed to waiting for something to
00:55:47
happen, as opposed to waiting for, you know, to find out the hard way that China, you know, cracked this technology
00:55:52
before us and used it as in an act of war or uh non-human intelligent life uh does something unpredictable and then
00:56:01
all of a sudden the US government's on its heels and so are other governments
00:56:04
on their heels explaining to the public what they've known for a long time. I
00:56:08
I've often heard that the reason why they don't tell the general public that
00:56:11
these things exist is because general public aren't ready for this information.
00:56:16
Is that an argument? I've not really heard you guys say that. >> Yeah. No, people there are people
00:56:20
involved in gatekeeping this information that don't think the public can handle
00:56:24
the truth. Uh you know, Hal recently told me that people in the legacy program are pointing to the age of
00:56:29
disclosy and saying, "Look, this film reveals a lot and people aren't losing
00:56:34
their [ __ ] You know, people aren't jumping out of windows. is not causing chaos in society. Like the public can
00:56:39
handle the base facts. >> Of all the things you've heard, Dan, what is the what was the most compelling
00:56:44
story or anecdote that you heard that convinced you? >> It was really just the sheer number of
00:56:50
very high level military government intelligence officials who were telling me in in private settings to my face,
00:56:57
you know, that at a classified level, they know with absolute certainty this is real. But if you had to pick one
00:57:04
story. >> Oh, I mean it's really it's really it wasn't one it really wasn't one thing
00:57:08
for me. It was like it was the overall it's like for example I I interviewed
00:57:12
Rubio and Jill Senator Jill Brown on the same day. They both uh participated in the film and did lengthy interviews with
00:57:19
me and both looked me in the face and told me they thought this was the most important documentary that's ever been
00:57:23
made and that this was really important to bring this information out in a thoughtful way to the public and make
00:57:29
them aware of what's happening. you you can't like on hear stuff like that, you
00:57:32
know. Um and it makes it makes an impact on you. >> What about you, Hal? What was the most
00:57:37
persuasive thing that you that tipped you over the edge from a you know, maybe being agnostic to believing that there
00:57:43
are nonhuman intelligent life amongst us? Well, it's looking at the technology
00:57:50
which is so advanced that I'm essentially certain that no uh us or our adversaries could have made
00:57:59
it. So, somebody actually made it and it has to be somebody who knows a lot more
00:58:04
about physics than we do. I mean there's this there's nowhere to go but to say
00:58:10
okay there's somebody who is way beyond humans to develop that kind of technology and display it
00:58:18
>> of all the evidence that's been released and all of the rumors and videos and you
00:58:22
know going back to the crop fields that we used to hear about many years ago presumably there's lots of this stuff
00:58:27
that you don't believe >> that you think is nonsense. Oh, there's definitely there's definitely tons of
00:58:32
>> there's tons of reports that are that when you look into them seem like
00:58:37
[ __ ] for sure >> because you know one of the things people often say is that alien encounter
00:58:42
descriptions perfectly matched the pop culture of that era. So people saw flying saucers in the in the 1950s after
00:58:48
sci-fi movies popularized them and gray aliens in the 1980s after books um like Communion
00:58:54
>> popularized them. And this kind of suggests that sightings are born from
00:58:58
human imagination versus >> well I I think I and I think that's a reasonable uh place to come to. I think
00:59:06
I think a lot of the reports that we get you know we can generally set aside as being you know just manufactured by
00:59:14
humans who get caught up in this sort of give and take on social media and so on.
00:59:20
But nonetheless, when you really zero in on actual evidence of technologies and evidence of bodies there, you can't just
00:59:29
say it's uh you know, it's just social contagion. >> The when I think about the technologies,
00:59:34
when I watch like the tic tac video, >> it's kind of blurry and I don't really
00:59:38
know what I'm looking at. >> Like there's this thing moving around on
00:59:40
the screen that's like black and white, but I don't really know what I'm looking
00:59:43
at. And I think this has always been the struggle with it is we're so used to
00:59:47
consuming content in high definition that we can clearly and it appears to be the case that so many of these UAP
00:59:54
videos are like in the distance and kind of blurry and vague. So it makes them harder to believe and it just I think
01:00:00
we're all longing for like a solid video. You talked about them going in and out of the water. How come someone's
01:00:06
not got a you got if someone like falls over and we we we capture it all on camera these days. CCTV cameras on every
01:00:12
high street. Why is there not like a solid video of something going in the water and out the water?
01:00:17
>> Look, m multiple people said on on camera that they have seen with their
01:00:21
own eyes, classified videos that are indisputable. Um, and some of them told me specifics like that story I told you
01:00:28
that the first video J Stratton was shown when he went down this rabbit hole was a triangle craft hovering over a
01:00:33
nuclear weapons site. Uh, Air Force security guards had filmed it on a little VHS camera that they had. It was
01:00:38
it was hovering long enough for them to do that. you know, that kind of evidence
01:00:41
exists, but it's just still classified. >> Will it be coming out, do you think?
01:00:44
>> I I I hope so. I I I know this process is playing out right now where people
01:00:48
like like J Stratton are helping the administration find where the evidence exists so they can get their hands on it
01:00:55
and then determine whether it can safely be declassified. Like that process is definitely playing out right now.
01:01:00
>> Do you think do you trust the Trump administration to release all of the
01:01:03
available information? I >> I don't think it's a question of do we
01:01:07
trust the current administration will release it. It's do we think all these
01:01:12
federal agencies and branches of military are going to turn over the evidence they have to the
01:01:18
administration? That's the question. And the juryy's still out on that. They're
01:01:21
they're not right now. They're pushing back. And they're pushing back hard. And
01:01:24
that's why the administration is working with people like Stratton, like Jay
01:01:28
Stratton, who who who had who over 16 years has learned where a lot of this evidence is. Um they're working with
01:01:34
people like him to find out where the evidence sits, who who's gatekeeping it
01:01:38
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01:01:43
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If it is released, if all the information that you've heard from your witnesses is released, if they release,
01:02:55
you know, craft, alien craft, and they release alien bodies and all of these things, how do you imagine the world
01:03:01
would be different? >> I think it will lead to a giant technology boom. I think once we're
01:03:09
told, hey, there's this technology that exists that could revolutionize the way
01:03:13
we live, you know, it could lead to anti-gravity technology. It could lead to new energy sources, new energy
01:03:19
sources. Solve the energy crisis overnight, right? Could lead to interstellar travel and going farther
01:03:24
out, you know, >> and I think it would have a great psychological effect because, you know,
01:03:29
if suddenly uh you go from the point of saying, well, maybe we're the only intelligent species in the universe and
01:03:36
then you suddenly get the idea that this is a universe full of life. >> What does that mean for religion?
01:03:43
I think all dogmas will just apply to it, you know, and I think that the Vatican's already gotten ahead of it and
01:03:48
said, you know, they put out a message a couple years ago that basically the the
01:03:51
the gist of it was, you know, God's God's universe and God's work is vast
01:03:56
and, you know, >> vast and basically you couldn't you couldn't uh, you know, say that he he
01:04:01
wouldn't have the ability to do that. I mean, yeah. >> So, I from a religious standpoint and
01:04:08
certainly in thea case of the Catholic Church, they've had uh very positive views about population being throughout
01:04:16
the universe. >> And there's nothing really, at least from the Catholic Church's perspective,
01:04:20
there's nothing that counters the, you know, that doesn't allow you to wrap
01:04:24
your head around the fact that there's other life out there, you know. >> Are you guys religious? not like overly
01:04:29
religious, but like you know I my my my mom's Irish and and grew up going to
01:04:33
Catholic school and I you know I went to a CCD and you know Sunday school it's
01:04:38
called a C CCD where I grew up. Um but >> you believe in God? >> I do. I do.
01:04:42
>> Do you believe in God? >> I do too. Yeah. And I'm a practicing
01:04:45
Catholic. So >> So would that mean that you believe God has made all of these aliens as well?
01:04:50
>> That's my that's what my worldview is. >> Yeah. I would think that I couldn't say
01:04:53
that's not the case. But, you know, as a scientist, I can't prove that that it is
01:04:58
the case. But, you know, just just on the statistics of it, it's pretty likely.
01:05:04
>> You know, an interesting thing happening right now, Stephen, too, is these people
01:05:08
who have been gatekeeping the truth. Um, a lot of them are afraid to come forward
01:05:14
and tell the White House what they know because they they think they're going to
01:05:16
be villainized. They think the optics around this are such that like if someone's been covering this up, they're
01:05:24
they're they're they're the villain of the story, right? And so, um, the White
01:05:29
House and the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of War realized this and so in the last couple
01:05:37
weeks, they've been messaging out to the military and the intelligence community
01:05:40
that this is not a witch hunt. It's not an endeavor to punish anyone. They want
01:05:45
to encourage people to come forward. assure them there will be no no punishment u for being involved in
01:05:50
gatekeeping this. They just want to learn the truth and find out where the real evidence sits. So that's another
01:05:55
thing that's playing out right now that I think if it gets out there enough uh
01:05:59
it will lead to more people coming forward with that that evidence we all want to see.
01:06:04
>> Yeah. >> Earlier on we you talked about how some people feel like their lives are at risk
01:06:08
because of what they know. Has there been any instance of anyone being punished for saying anything in this
01:06:14
regard? Well, certainly having having their clearances pulled or losing their op
01:06:20
opportunities for advancement. Uh we we've heard stories like that from from
01:06:26
several people in the intelligence. >> Is there is there anyone you can name
01:06:30
that has said that they were threatened or punished or in some form because of what they
01:06:35
>> Well, certainly the the number one whistleblower for for many people has
01:06:38
been David Crush. And so he has uh outlined the various steps taken against him to basically ruin his career
01:06:49
significantly enough that he went to the inspector general of the intelligence community and said I'm being punished,
01:06:57
shoved aside, losing clearances and so on because I came out with this data and they said well what you provided us is,
01:07:05
you know, serious worthy of consideration. And I think a lot of people have had their lives threatened.
01:07:10
>> Um I'm not certain if if anyone has been killed. Um but I know people have had
01:07:16
their lives threatened. >> Yeah. >> And who's threatening them? >> People that are involved um in this this
01:07:25
program referred to as the legacy program >> who think that the evidence should not
01:07:30
ever come out. >> This legacy program. So this is a program ran within the US government to
01:07:38
>> US government >> elements of it >> elements of it uh and also defense
01:07:43
contractors >> and you think the legacy program knows the truth on this regard?
01:07:48
>> Yes, because they have the firsthand evidence of the crash materials and the
01:07:54
bodies. There's 80 years of data that this this group has >> and they haven't released or leaked that
01:08:04
data for the last 80 years. >> There'd be no advantage. >> No one's hacked it.
01:08:09
>> This this program is the epitome of a special access program. I think this
01:08:13
program is as off the grid as it it could possibly be. >> It almost seems like there's nothing
01:08:18
that eventually hasn't come to come to light that the government have done. Like I've sat here and interviewed a lot
01:08:22
of CIA spies who've told me the history of the CIA and this program that lasted
01:08:27
for 12 years and then it comes out and this program and I mean even some of the stuff that I've heard you talk about how
01:08:32
around um what's it called? >> Remote viewing. >> Remote remote viewing. That was that CIA
01:08:37
project. >> What is remote viewing? >> Remote viewing. Well, the the the CIA
01:08:43
suddenly got concerned because they saw that the Soviets were spending millions of dollars at some of their best
01:08:49
institutes to investigate the possible use of quote ESP. >> What's ESP?
01:08:54
>> Psychic ability. >> Yeah. Psychic abilities, extra sensory perception. And so, as it turns out, I
01:09:00
was at Stanford Research Institute and uh they saw my background. They came to me and said, you know, we'd like for you
01:09:08
to to look into this. Is there anything to this? I mean, no scientist in America
01:09:13
even believes there is such a thing as ESP. >> Who came to you? >> CIA.
01:09:18
>> This is This is in the 70s. >> The CIA. >> Back in the 70s.
01:09:20
>> The CIA approached you in the 70s and asked you to investigate remote viewing.
01:09:24
>> That's right. And so they asked me to set up a small program and 50 or 60K or
01:09:30
whatever. They said, you know, we hope you'll find this is all nonsense. We can
01:09:33
forget about it. We don't have to worry about it. And it grew into, you know,
01:09:38
more than a two decade program. Millions of dollars. Stargate is the label for it
01:09:43
that most people know about because by now most of the information in the program came out and basically it we
01:09:50
just we just found that uh people essentially just like you have artistic ability or athletic ability or whatever
01:09:59
music ability. Well, we found out that remote viewing, this ability to sit in a location and pick up information from
01:10:08
someplace far away, uh, is a talent that many people could uh, demonstrate. And so we ended up, uh, actually training
01:10:17
Army Intelligence officers at the Army Intelligence and Security Command at Fort me how to do this. And so,
01:10:24
>> so wait, let me just simplify this for the audience that might not fully
01:10:28
understand what we're talking about. So remote viewing is the idea that I could
01:10:30
sit here in London where we are now and I could be trained to see what was going
01:10:36
on in another part of the world >> to make your mind's eye go to a remote
01:10:40
location. >> I'll give you a specific example. A Soviet plane that CIA wanted to get hold
01:10:46
of went down somewhere in Africa and they didn't they didn't know where because the pilot had bailed out and it
01:10:53
just went on till it ran out of gas. So, we got two of our quote best remote viewers, one that worked for the Air
01:11:00
Force and one that worked for my organization to say, "Okay, here's a map
01:11:05
of Africa. Where's that damn plane? We got to go in and get it." And they put
01:11:10
an X on the map that was in three miles of where the plane went down out of the hundreds of thousands of square miles.
01:11:15
And so, the CIA went in and got the plane. So, I mean, it was, you know, how do they do that? Well,
01:11:20
>> by the way, there's an audio recording of President Jimmy Carter telling that
01:11:23
story. >> Yeah. Hm. >> Post post presidency. >> Maybe we should play that.
01:11:29
>> One time we had a a small plane go down somewhere in Africa. We were not able to
01:11:36
find it by surveillance from our satellites. So the director of the CIA, he was also director of all the
01:11:44
intelligence agencies, heard about a a woman in California that uh was a medium and he uh contacted her
01:11:54
and she gave him the latitude and longitude of the plane's whereabouts. And the next time one of our space
01:12:05
satellites went over that area, we located the plane where she said it was. >> Again, this sounds like it's impossible.
01:12:12
>> Sounds like >> it sounds completely bananas. It sounds like something out of an X-Men comic
01:12:17
book. It sounds crazy, but >> well, I was okay. You want to be really practical about it. Uh, you know, they
01:12:24
they often are skeptics would say, "Well, if they're so psychic, why aren't
01:12:28
they rich? Why aren't they in the stock market or whatever?" So we set up a little program on a
01:12:34
challenge to predict silver futures >> to to predict what? >> Silver futures.
01:12:38
>> Just the value of silver. >> Yeah. The value of silver silver on a
01:12:41
daily basis. Was it going to go up or go down? >> So we had somebody said, "Okay, I I will
01:12:47
if you'll set up a little program like that for 30 days, I'll bet on what your
01:12:51
quote remote viewers say and I'll put the money in and I'll give you 10% of
01:12:57
what I make." Said, "Okay, fine." Now, long story short, uh made um $260,000 in
01:13:04
the 30 days. We got our 10% which is $26,000. So people could actually in this case
01:13:12
even look into the future a day and generate a description of what they were going to see and handle the following
01:13:20
day. >> Presumably not everybody. How many people did you have do that experiment?
01:13:24
>> We had uh seven in that experiment. And how many of them were successful in
01:13:29
generating? >> Six of the seven uh generated really good data. >> So are those six of people now rich?
01:13:36
>> Well, I don't know. Some of them may may have followed up. They don't
01:13:40
>> Why were those six people picked? >> Since we had learned that sort of
01:13:45
anybody can do this. Uh we were actually raising money for a school that was being put together. So, I just went to
01:13:53
the board of directors and said, "Okay, I'm going to give you a crash course
01:13:56
over the weekend in quote remote viewing of the type we train intelligence officers to do." And um so you're going
01:14:04
to be it. >> So, you just It was the board of the school. >> Yeah. Board of the school. Yeah.
01:14:10
>> Okay. >> They all knew what I did for a living. And so >> this program Stargate got so much um
01:14:16
actionable intelligence from the remote viewers that house started briefing at the time the director of the CIA on a
01:14:22
regular basis. >> Yeah. I'm going I briefed all the way up to Bill Casey, director of the CIA.
01:14:26
>> So does it still exist this program in any capacity? >> Remote viewing.
01:14:31
>> If it does, you wouldn't hear about it. >> Why? >> Because
01:14:37
it would be a black highly classified program. >> Why? because we don't want our
01:14:41
adversaries to know how we might be getting access to their data. >> You just told us,
01:14:47
>> but people can not believe that and that's fine. >> But aren't you under some sort of
01:14:51
contract? >> Well, as it turns out, the CIA and and DIA, it also went to the DIA. That
01:14:57
program finally got declassified at the level it was operating at and that you can go to the CIA reading room and you
01:15:06
can get all of the documents on it. So your work was originally classified. >> Oh, it was originally a top secret
01:15:12
special access program. Yeah. >> There's a part of me that goes, listen,
01:15:17
if people could do remote viewing and see, you know, into other parts of the world or predict the things that you're
01:15:23
saying, I mean, if if if it was trainable, everything so like life as we know it
01:15:31
would be completely flipped on its head. I think it's unreasonable to think that
01:15:36
when Stargate became public, the US government stopped remote viewing. >> I mean, I wouldn't stop. If I was the US
01:15:44
government, if it worked, I wouldn't stop. >> I think it just went underground. Moved
01:15:47
to a different agency. >> Went underground. >> So, you were training people to do it
01:15:51
though. >> Yeah, we Well, we had Yeah, we had we had people that we trained.
01:15:56
>> So, train me. >> Okay. Well, yeah. How do you train now? A number of the military intelligence
01:16:03
officers that we trained have now left the military and they do have training courses.
01:16:09
>> Do you do you believe that? >> I do. At first I thought it just sounded
01:16:13
too much like something in a comic book, right? But the more I first read about Stargate and the declassified documents,
01:16:21
started to realize how serious the government took it and the more I learned about it through how and then
01:16:27
eventually um I really don't want to get into the details of this but eventually
01:16:31
um I got connected with someone who has done remote viewing for the government and they did a demonstration for me that
01:16:37
blew my mind >> cuz you would think if anyone was capable of doing remote viewing they
01:16:42
could go on the internet and make one prediction or do one video that would be, you know, proven to be true and they
01:16:49
would literally be considered to be a superhum. Like they would literally be I mean people would probably think they
01:16:56
were a deity or or a spiritual leader or something if one person could do what we
01:17:01
found was that it seems to be an act action that is just part of the human makeup.
01:17:09
>> And so it isn't like they're a super deity or a godlike or really off the
01:17:14
charts. It's something that people can learn to do like they can learn to play
01:17:17
the piano or whatever this for whatever reason. >> Maybe now we have new uh you know
01:17:24
psychiatrists and neurohysiologists beginning to study you know how does consciousness do its thing in the brain
01:17:31
and so on. Are there elements of it uh once you get into quantum theory and quantum
01:17:37
entanglement that would say you could have evidence uh you know beyond just our physical structure
01:17:44
>> like it could be rationalized with like a quantum connection basically the the
01:17:46
the moving your mind's eye to another location which also goes to like you know how's life very interestingly you
01:17:53
know first was the Stargate stuff and then he got into UAP and the overlap that I find fascinating is some of these
01:18:00
craft that have been found or crashes that have happened. Um the reports from people involved say that a lot of them
01:18:09
don't have any control panels in them. >> Like they're basically empty other than
01:18:13
seats, which suggests that maybe there's some sort of mind connection controlling
01:18:19
these craft. >> I did wonder about the crafts. I thought, you know, if I was an advanced
01:18:22
civilization, why would I and I was that smart, why would I send life to these planets when I could just send the
01:18:28
crafts, you know, why am I sending biological life when I could just send the >> Maybe they're manufactured biological
01:18:33
life. Maybe it's maybe they're equivalent. Maybe they're not sentient
01:18:36
sentient. Yeah, >> it's true. >> But the remote viewing stuff opens up a
01:18:41
lot of possibilities if >> Yeah. I mean we as part of this CIA program we found that uh people could
01:18:49
affect quantum devices that were totally shielded by superconducting shielding. >> Tell them tell them that particular
01:18:56
story. That's yeah, we we uh there's a quote psychic so-called and uh so I
01:19:03
brought him to Stanford and I I was skeptical at the time and uh I said, "Okay, well, we've got this super
01:19:09
experiment where there's tiny quantum chip down inside of this electrical shielding, magnetic shielding,
01:19:17
superconducting shielding. We want to see if you can affect it." And he did. I mean, this is supposed to
01:19:25
be totally nonaffectable from by anything on the outside. In fact, it was developed by the Navy to
01:19:32
just look for corks and stuff like that. And so, it was supposed to not be influenced from the outside by anything.
01:19:41
And he influenced it. And when I say he influenced it, I'm not just saying there's a little blip that, you know,
01:19:46
you could kind of read into it. No, it it was a system where it ordinarily just had an oscillating signal like that and
01:19:54
then when he affected it just stopped the oscillation and then he also make the oscillation go
01:20:00
twice as fast. Of course, poor graduate student whose life dependent on this not
01:20:04
being affected from the outside, you know, really. But then they uh that that that raised a big issue for them. That
01:20:12
means uh gee does that mean if we put if we hide our documents inside of superconducting safes the Russians might
01:20:19
be able to so actually when we had dant the American remote viewers got together
01:20:25
with the Soviet remote viewers and traded war stories did experiments together for
01:20:31
>> you know I'm I think I'm naturally skeptical because I'm skeptical with all
01:20:34
things but I'm often proven wrong. So, you know, my fiance, she um she believes
01:20:39
lots of things I don't believe. And so, so frequently she's been proven right in
01:20:43
those things that I remain open-minded to things in life because I've leared
01:20:48
to. So, I think that's where I remain. I remain open-minded. And I think on the
01:20:54
balance of probability, if you ask me, do I think there's other life in the universe? I think it would be crazy to
01:20:59
say there wasn't. >> Right. Right. >> But, but has there been life that has
01:21:02
arrived here that we've recovered? I just I would need more evidence. Is that
01:21:07
>> I I think I think that's the right attitude and we're hoping that uh with
01:21:12
the release of documents that's starting to happen now that you'll get that
01:21:17
evidence. But in the absence of actually getting access to the evidence, it's
01:21:23
very reasonable that to be skeptical. >> Yeah, absolutely. I do think though that
01:21:28
the current administration in the US is so focused on following through with this directive the president gave to to
01:21:36
get all the evidence within the possession of the federal government, all the different agencies, the military
01:21:41
branches, and then figure out what can be declassified. I think they're taking
01:21:43
it so serious that we're going to we're going to get to more tranches of more
01:21:46
meaningful evidence. And I think eventually we'll get to that thing that we that that moment that we've all only
01:21:51
seen in movies where a sitting president steps to a microphone and tells the world we're not alone in the universe. I
01:21:56
think I think we're going to get there. >> I think so too. >> Just a matter of time.
01:22:03
>> Does it change the meaning of life if that becomes the case? Does it does it
01:22:06
mean anything for us as humans? >> What do you think the meaning of life is? How? And do you think we should
01:22:11
change our behavior in any way even if this >> moment does occur? I think if we found
01:22:16
out that there were life throughout the universe that it's uh it can be developed in all kinds of forms then
01:22:24
then that makes us uh take a new look at well what does it mean to be human you know we ought to think about if we can
01:22:32
interacting with these other uh species and seeing what we can learn from them and what might they learn from us and so
01:22:38
it just opens up a whole new sort of view of what the universe is like. I mean, I've got I've got 15 grandkids.
01:22:46
They should grow up in a universe where it's teameming with life and they know
01:22:50
that. And that's a very uh kind of an exciting kind of thing. >> I think it also could be the one thing
01:22:56
that could unify all of humanity. You know, Reagan gave a great speech during his presidency at the United Nations
01:23:02
where he said he often thinks that it might be a threat from outside this universe that makes all of humanity come
01:23:09
together and think more about what it has in common than than its differences um and you know moves them past the the
01:23:17
the the conflicts of the moment. And that might be you know wishful thinking and might be naive but it also might
01:23:24
actually be the one thing that could that could line people up. Has it changed how you think about the the
01:23:30
meaning of life? >> Between what I've learned about the the reality of the UAP situation and the
01:23:35
existence of non-human dollar life, what I've learned about, for example, remote
01:23:39
viewing, it's made me realize that our sort of western present day view of reality is not complete. You know, we
01:23:48
think we know everything there is, you know, to life and and how things work and we just don't. And when you're
01:23:54
honest with yourself and you look back at history, all the times people thought that they were they were proven wrong
01:23:58
pretty quickly. >> And so it's made me open to a lot more possibilities um than than I would have
01:24:05
been just just 10 years ago. >> I think it'd be a renaissance in in our
01:24:11
attitudes toward life and and everything. Yeah. >> Are you both open to being wrong?
01:24:16
>> Yeah. Look, I should have said this early on. When I first started making my
01:24:20
documentary, I was totally prepared to have people tell me, "Look, this is all
01:24:25
[ __ ] It was all cover for our classified projects." >> Did they? >> No, no one did. That was the crazy
01:24:30
thing. Not Not a single person did. I would I was trying to pull it out of people. I'd be like, you know, come on.
01:24:37
This is really This is like a black project, an unagnowledged special access program, right? Like just just say
01:24:43
nothing if that's the case. And they're like, "No, dude. Not not even close."
01:24:47
like it was o over and over and these weren't random people. These were like
01:24:50
senior people on the Senate Intelligence Committee, on the Senate Armed Services
01:24:53
Committee, um leaders in in the intelligence community, leaders in in in the military, and so yeah, it's hard to
01:25:02
ignore. >> Yeah. >> Well, Trump has released the first round of the UAP reports. Um so I guess in
01:25:08
many respects, this conversation is to be continued. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we we we have been told
01:25:13
by our friends in government that the next trunch of evidence is likely to come out in the next 30 days or so and
01:25:19
it's going to be a rolling declassification process. So there'll be a lot more to talk about in the near
01:25:24
future. >> Thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. I feel very
01:25:27
>> Thank you for your curious >> very very curious and I I highly recommend people go check out your
01:25:32
documentary. I'm going to link it below. Um, and I think one of the great things
01:25:35
about the documentary is the diversity of people you've spoken to, including
01:25:38
Marco Rubio, who is now working alongside President Trump and many others, including yourself, Hal, um, and
01:25:44
other guests that I've people like Jay who, um, I hope to speak to sometime soon.
01:25:48
>> Cool. >> Thank you for having us and thank you for bringing attention to interesting
01:25:51
topics like this. I really do think, you know, >> you know, people like you are are
01:25:55
helping open people's minds. You know, in the past, you only had, you know, it
01:25:59
wasn't that long ago there's only four TV networks, right? and a small group of
01:26:03
legacy media people controlled what people thought about really. So people here are opening up everyone's minds to
01:26:08
other possibilities and other information. And so thank you. >> It's it's it's interesting because
01:26:14
again sometimes I think I have to remind the audience of like why I do what I do
01:26:17
and why I pick the subjects that I pick. But it's honestly just what I'm curious
01:26:21
about. >> And if if something rises in public curiosity and it's in my my curiosity,
01:26:25
then I'll speak about it. It's not an endorsement of me believing everything.
01:26:29
It is just me wanting to learn more. >> Yeah. >> And I, you know, I I wish we lived in a
01:26:33
society that was more open-minded generally to the people on the other side of the aisle or to subjects that
01:26:38
are currently considered to be, I don't know, controversial or or or not. Because, you know, it's not lost on me
01:26:44
that my own very existence as a black businessman is in of itself um something that was once a very controversial idea.
01:26:53
And so I'm all for, you know, uh, controversial ideas being having some kind of space to be.
01:27:00
>> Well, every major breakthrough in the history of humanity came from someone
01:27:03
being curious, right? And wanting to learn about something they weren't aware
01:27:06
of. So I I think great things will come out of it. and and and you just touched on something that we didn't mention,
01:27:11
which is I found shockingly that this is the the UAP issue, non-human life, is the most bipartisan issue in Washington
01:27:20
DC at a time when Democrats and Republicans in the United States can't agree on anything. They're completely
01:27:25
lined up on this being the biggest issue of our time. Extremely significant. And
01:27:30
like that says a lot, too, you know? >> Yeah. >> To be continued. >> To be continued. YouTube have this new
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