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the hardest thing I've ever done in my
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life.
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>> There's a photo I saw of you and your
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siblings where you're clutching your
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siblings.
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>> I think about that picture. I like that
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picture. But there was definitely I
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definitely had a protector role as the
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oldest. Things got hard between my
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parents and they would get in volatile
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fights. I would go get all my siblings,
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put them in my room. I'd go downstairs
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and handle it. You know, like I was
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definitely the protector. There was a
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yeah we had a lot of screaming and
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there's a certain like if you grew up
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with screaming hearing screaming through
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a wall
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>> you know that sound hypervigilant
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protective
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responsible with a dose of
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be very careful
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>> and and how did that change your model
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of love as a young person? It must have
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been because I mean I obviously feel the
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same way about about my situation and um
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I think the lesson I learned was that
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love was like a prison cuz it was my mom
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doing the shouting and my dad was the
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prisoner and he wouldn't respond.
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>> My definitely
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definitely got over the wall. Game
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recognized as game he had a wall.
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>> Oh, okay.
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>> Yeah. And so we had long conversations
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about our walls and and slowly through
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those conversations those walls crumbled
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with each other and we've been together
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now for 38 years.
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>> Wow.
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>> Yeah. The hardest thing I've ever done
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in my
