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I'm going to just be honest. There were times where Joe Biden greatly disappointed me and frankly, you know,
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angered me. Like on the day of my debate with Trump, the stakes were so high. And
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the president calls and he said to me, it just was so unnecessary. And you took something from that
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that his motivation was all about himself. Do you think he wanted you to win the
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election? Madame Vice President, there's nothing you said I couldn't ask you. Cuz I have a lot to say and so [ __ ] it.
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Okay. So, do you wish you hadn't ran? No. But I do regret that we did not have more time.
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And then the debate that came before with Biden and Trump, it was a car crash. I mean, this was clearly an
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individual that was very much struggling. He didn't want that debate. I could tell
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something was a little off. How do you know? Well, I could start with this. And what about not going on Jerro's
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show? I definitely regret that we didn't do it, but there was a lot of games being played.
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And then on that night when the election hasn't gone your way, what would I have
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seen if I was a fly on the wall in the room? I was in a state of shock. Like I haven't felt anything similar to the
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emotion I felt that day other than the grief I felt when my mother died and I knew what was going to happen to our
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country. So I had a hard time reconciling that we can't still do something about it because I grew up in
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an environment where everyone was fighting for justice and for equality. So, I do think about how different it
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could have been, but sometimes the fight takes a while. Does that mean that you could have run
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again?