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WILL THE MIDDLE-CLASS BE WIPED OUT?

June 10, 2026 / 01:31

This episode discusses the impact of government size on businesses, taxation, and economic ownership. Key topics include small business struggles, wage issues, and the changing economy.

The conversation features arguments about the necessity of big government versus the burdens it places on businesses. One guest highlights frustrations from UK businesses regarding high taxes, while another suggests relocating to tax-friendly regions like Dubai.

Participants emphasize the importance of ownership in society, with discussions around wages and job availability. They express concerns about the unaffordability of housing and the happiness of the population.

Overall, the episode stresses the need for policy changes to adapt to the new economic landscape and improve the lives of individuals seeking stability and ownership.

TLDR

The episode debates government size, taxation, and the need for economic ownership in society.

Episode

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There is literally no example on planet Earth of a high functioning society without big government.
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>> not true. Big government is sucking the life out of more businesses. And I spent
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countless hours with businesses. And they're like, "You can't succeed in the
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UK. As soon as you earn anything, they'll just tax it off you." >> So, pop off to Dubai, run the business
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virtually, and pay no tax. It's idiotic. I I don't know how you can look at that
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and think this is a good system. >> No, no, I'm saying what needs to happen
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is reduce the taxes and the pressure on the small businesses. Cuz everyone in this economy needs to own stuff. We need
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to own a house, own a business, and own shares. >> But not everybody can be an
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entrepreneur. >> Correct. Look, it would be wonderful if everybody owned something. But ownership
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starts with earning enough money so that you can save money so that you can begin
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to own something. So, the problem is wages. Because most people want to be able to go to work and be treated
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decently, own or earn enough money so that I can feel secure. I just want to be married, have kids, own a house.
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>> All that. That's what most people >> that, and I want that for everyone.
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That's gone away. Houses are unaffordable. Local jobs don't exist. Technology has cut out all the middle
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men. No one's paying healthy wages. We have the most unhappy population. And if
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you want to fix that, you have to enact this. >> This. >> Well, I've seen Nick's policies
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implemented, and I don't feel it's enough. >> You haven't seen all of the policies, so
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>> But we need people to know that the rules that we grew up with have changed,
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and people have to learn the rules of this new economy. >> Yes, yes, yes, I totally agree. And if
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you want to get the economy back on track, the starting point is

Episode Highlights

  • The Burden of Taxes
    A discussion on how taxes are impacting businesses in the UK.
    “You can't succeed in the UK.”
    @ 00m 14s
    June 10, 2026
  • Desire for Ownership
    The importance of ownership in achieving stability and happiness.
    “I just want to be married, have kids, own a house.”
    @ 00m 55s
    June 10, 2026

Episode Quotes

  • You can't succeed in the UK.
    WILL THE MIDDLE-CLASS BE WIPED OUT?
  • I just want to be married, have kids, own a house.
    WILL THE MIDDLE-CLASS BE WIPED OUT?
  • We have the most unhappy population.
    WILL THE MIDDLE-CLASS BE WIPED OUT?

Key Moments

  • Tax Frustration00:14
  • Desire for Stability00:55
  • Unhappy Population01:08