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no one really tells people that have anxiety what it is and this is why very often people don't have a specific
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trigger they can point to so they're trying to pin it on their outside environment but the truth is they are deficient usually
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and Gary Brea he's a human biologist to spend 20 years working in life insurance
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predicting when people are going to die to the nearest month and now he's on a mission to extend your life a couple of
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days ago someone did a swab inside of my mouth what was that test and why did I do it you did it to look at whether your
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parents gave you a gene mutation and it's one of the most overlooked things in all modern medicine because it's this
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deficiency that leads to some of the most common ailments that we suffer from mental illness ADHD OCD manic depression
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bipolar Sleep Disorders very severe gut issues I mean there are so many that don't seem to be fixable with
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conventional therapies or dietary changes because very often disease is not happening to us it's happening
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within us and I'm not going to stop getting the message out to the masses
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because I just think about all the times I could have made a real material change in
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somebody's life and I didn't have the opportunity to do it and felt like I was you know sitting behind a thick glass
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wall just watching blind people walk into traffic now I got a chance to make a
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difference so what are like the simple things that we can be doing to prevent us even getting these chronic diseases
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so there's five things that I would commit to doing on a regular basis bis number one is upon waking I would I
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wanted to invite in Dr Carrie sard who's going to give me those results of my test I want to know if there's any sort of Health implications that I should be
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aware of okay so that right there is an
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[Music] episode Gary Stephen good to see you
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back throw me off it's I know I knew I threw your game off there Stephen um
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great to be back man it really is if someone's just clicked on podcast mhm
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and they're wondering why they should stay and listen you're going to direct the conversation I'm going to go where you want to go I'm going to follow my
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curiosity and ask questions but what are they going to get from this conversation today if you are at the driving wheel
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I'm just date on how to live a healthier happier longer life and maybe answers to some of the most um pesky health related
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challenges that they're having and I and when I say pesky health related challenges I mean everybody has these little tiny anchors off their Stern
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right weight gain water retention brain fog lack of focus and concentration poor waking energy lack of deep sleep and
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it's shocking how many of these conditions have a common repository I
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mean they like the Hub of the wheel where they all meet all these individual spokes come together to Common Hub of
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methylation and the and and methylation is essentially nutrient deficiencies in the human body
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and I don't usually start off with this analogy but I'll start off with an analogy um when I was in grad school
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first of all I'm a human biologist I'm not a physician my undergraduate degrees are in biology my postgraduate degrees
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are in human biology but when I was in my second four years of of grad school
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getting human biology degree I had to I had to take all these plant botany courses which I hated because I was like
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I wanted to study like anatomy and physiology in human beings but I'm studying algae and and but the one thing
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that stood out to me about plant physiology was let's say you have a a palm leaf that's rotting in a palm tree
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and you call a true arborist a true botanist out to your house and they see that that leaf is rotting in the tree
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they won't touch that leaf they will cortest the soil and then they'll say you know what Stephen there's no nitrogen in this soil and they'll add
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nitrogen to the soil and the leaf will heal only we've stopped thinking about human beings this way we've lost a lot
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of faith in humanity and Mankind the body's ability for this to heal this and
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we believe very often and this is true in some cases that disease and pathology are happening to us not something that
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happens within us and if you go back to the tree analogy you know you could put anything you wanted on that soil right you could
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supplement for the sake of supplementing and I think a lot of people get lost in this realm where well I heard nmn is
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good and Resveratrol is good and CoQ10 and St John's Ward and ashwag gandha and vitamin C and I should take a multivitamin you know pretty soon you
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have this paralysis of analysis because you're supplementing for the sake of supplementing and in the trees case if
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you didn't find the nitrogen the leaf never would have healed and and the reason why most of a supplement for the
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sake of supplementing is that we don't have data we just don't get data on our bodies you know when when when I bring
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and you you run into a lot of a lot more young entrepreneurs than I do but when I run into them and I'll bring them up
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sometimes when I'm doing a stage talk and you can question them um about their
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priorities like what's the most important thing to you my health um how important is Health to you oh it's the
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number one priority I have and I say what come on up here and let's let's talk about you know how much you're
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you're prioritizing your health and you said um you know what kind of business you have a marketing agency what is your
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business earn on a monthly basis $148,000 a month what's your net income
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$ 38,2 a month how many employees do you have 16 what's your hemoglobin
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A1c blank right where are your testosterone levels um how much are
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triglycerides you ever look at your C reactive protein and their face is just blank and we have more data on our
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businesses than we do on our Temple and you know I I actually saw you on a stage
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talk I believe it was um and you talked about how you could take anything away from me in my life you you refer to your
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dog and your girlfriend yeah I remember hopefully you still have the dog and the girlfriend
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but you said you know if you took my girlfriend away you took my dog away I don't want I don't want to get you in a
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fight with your girlfriend so let's talk about the dog so you took my dog away I still have my business I still have my life all right but if you took weigh my
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health I'd lose everything right and I think most of us don't realize the
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importance of it until it is taken away and so recognizing that that the temple is the most important vehicle that we
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have I just really encourage people to get data basic data on their body so
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they have some kind of road map so they are supplementing for deficiency not just the sake of of of supplementing and
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that they're getting the most out of their body because that's what they're going to get that's how they're going to get the most out of their business you
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know I mean just picking up these little tiny anchors that are nibbling away at productivity you know people that suffer
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from ADD and ADHD don't really realize that ADD and ADHD very often are not
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attention deficit disorders or attention deficit hyperactivity disorders they're actually attention overload
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disorders and we characterize people that have ADD as as not being able to pay attention but the truth is they they
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don't lack the ability to pay attention they lack the ability to pay attention to so many things and if we understand
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that this is an overactive mind not a mind that's trying to pay attention to too many uh too many things then we can
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go about quieting the mind and not stimulating the central nervous system to match that pace of the mind which is
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kind of what ader all in five ANS and and um uh amphetamines do when you when
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you when you take them for ADD and ADHD so if we understood that as normal or as
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good as we think we feel we have no IDE idea how good normal feels until we find the missing raw material in our body and
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we put it back you want to see magic happen in human beings find the raw material that's missing and put it back
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in their body and by raw material I mean simple things you know I mean depending on who you talk to there's 72 minerals I
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think 16 of those are essential minerals there are there are two essential fatty acids there are eight essential amino
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acids it is astounding how many people are clinically deficient in some of
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those basics and then they go searching and all of the esoteric Super Supplements and red
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light therapy and and Ned boosting supplements and they're actually just missing that one of those raw materials
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basic essential amino acids basic fatty acids and basic minerals and that's
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where all human beings should start and then from there we should do some testing biomarkers in the blood in my
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opinion every human being should do a genetic methylation test the very same test that you did whether they do
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through me or not a genetic methylation test is a test you'll do once in your lifetime and it will tell you exactly
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what raw materials your body can convert into the usable form and what it can't
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because in human beings just like in that tree analy when you have a deficiency you get the expression of
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disease you know when we you talk about deficiencies it brings me back to something I think we talked about
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briefly last time which is it makes me feel like humans are being born broken
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is that true because if I've got if I'm deficient in something that my body needs then does that not mean that my body was born broken it's not that it's
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born broken it's just not functioning optimally right and and all of us have
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um genetic Snips we have these they called single nucleotide polymorphs we have these um are genes which are coding
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for enzymes to conduct these different activities in the body and what is a sounding about human beings is is how
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beautifully intricate the human body is we take one raw material Cal we put it into a physiologic process and then we
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take the waste product from that process and we feed another process and on and
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on so for example we'll take um folate from green leafy vegetables we'll
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convert that into methylfolate methylfolate becomes one of the most prevalent nutrients in the human body it
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helps to downregulate an inflammatory amino acid called homocysteine which
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then turns into something called methionine which then goes up to the brain and helps to quiet the mind so you start with this green leafy
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vegetable and it winds its way all the way up to helping you sleep and it's not that the spinach leaf is helping you
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sleep it's what the spinach leaf has become that's helping you sleep and this sequence of events is called methylation
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and what's astounding about methylation is that in many cases when it's
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broken while we can't fix the gene we can just supplement for its function so the most common gene mutation in the
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world which we talked about last time on your podcast mtfr affectionately called the [ __ ] Gene um 44% of the
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population has this gene mutation I talk about it all the time and it's a simple inability to to to convert folic acid
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and its derivatives um folate into the usable form called methylfolate well
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it's very easy to supplement with methylfolate and very inexpensive I might add to supplement with
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methylfolate and deficiencies in methylfolate are are linked to all kinds
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of conditions including neural tube defects because it's not folic acid that prevents neural tube defects it's methyl folate that prevents neural tube defects
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it's what the body converted into the usable form and so when we look at um
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methylation in the human body we get an exact road map of what we need to supplement with so that we're not
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wandering around just supplementing for the sake of just supplementing you mentioned the entrepreneurs that you
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meet that you bring up on stage and you ask them various questions and then you ask them about sort of biomarkers in their body what are the simple
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biomarkers you think that everyone needs needs to understand because listen I'm not a chemist I'm not going to be a biologist so if there's a couple of them
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I can probably get my head around them and stay on top of them but I can't stay on top of everything yeah so there there
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I would say three okay number one is um what's called glycemic profile which is
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a a check of how well your insulin and sugar metabolism is and it has three
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markers glucose hemoglobin A1c 3month average of your blood sugar and Insulin
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so definitely your glycemic profile because blood sugar I promise you is the root of all evil so first I I would do
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your glycemic profile Second I would do um your hormones can I just check on the glycemic profile that's basically my
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relationship with sugar that's your relationship with sugar and it's it's also your relationship with insulin
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because you know very often even people that don't eat high amounts of refined sugar and Ben and& Jerry's Ice Cream
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every night have issues with insulin sensitivity and so as insulin res Rises
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it causes a whole Myriad of conditions it's one of the Hallmarks of something called metabolic syndrome which we're
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seeing in younger and younger populations and it's generally easy to catch early on you have three markers
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that look at how well you're regulating your blood sugar glucose which is a measure of your the amount of sugar in your blood right now hemoglobin A1c
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which is essentially a three-month average of your blood sugar and then you have your insulin and the higher your
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insulin relative to your blood sugar the more insulin resistant you are right so
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the more insulin it takes to drop your your blood sugar the more resistant you are to insulin this is an early warning sign of metabolic syndrome but it's not
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just the metabolic syndrome it's that when insulin Rises there's a whole Downstream Cascade of events because
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insulin is not just responsible for helping us metabolize sugar it's also
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responsible for blocking other forms of energy use in the body one of which is fatty acid metabolism and so generally
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people that have very high insulin have very high blood triglycerides they have high blood fat and high blood fat and
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elevated cholesterol are other markers for cardiovascular disease so by actually bringing down one biomarker you
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have a positive effect all the way Downstream and I would say if you're only going to look at three things I
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would look at um your glycemic profile your your blood sugar and your insulin and your hemoglobin A1c hormone panel
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okay um so looking at your hormones and then specifically looking at what contributes to healthy hormone
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production DHEA and protein called shbg and then I would look at basic
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nutrient deficiencies um vitamin D3 magnesium potassium and um vitamin B12
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which are on most blood panels and that is a great place to start to get the basics how am I regulating my blood
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sugar are my hormones balanced what nutrient deficiencies do I have and then the second piece of information I would
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get which you only do once in your entire lifetime is is a methylation test and these are these are widely available
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you know all over the world I'm sure they're very easy to get in the UK and you want to look at five genes mtfr MTR
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mtrr ahcy and C Mt and just to be clear so I
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can dumb this down for myself here those five genes relate to how my body
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processes the things that I put into it at different stages in that sort of processing line yes I mean so so take
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for example that Gene at the top CT um if you look at what comp t does it stands for catacol o methyl transferase
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so it's a fancy way of saying it transfers a methyl group from the category of neurotransmitters called
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catacol amines and that's a huge mouthful but essentially what this means is these four neurotransmitters that are
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called catacol amines are responsible for our fight ORF flight response so for
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example if you drove home tonight and you got out of your car and somebody was standing in front of you with a knife MH
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right you would instantly have a fight ORF flight response your pupils would dilate your heart rate would increase your extremities would flood with blood
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you would begin to have a fight ORF flight response based on that stimulus but you could also be laying in your bed at night and you could start thinking
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about getting eaten by a shark and you could have the exact same response
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because the brain doesn't really know the difference between perception and reality the the similarity between these
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two events a very real fear and a reaction to it and an imagin fear is they both meet at cacam meines it's a R
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in the same class of neurotransmitters so now some people are very slow to break these down and what
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are the consequences of this well if you've ever had anxiety or know somebody that's suffered from anxiety no one
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really tells people that have anxiety what it is they describe the feeling so
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they say it's a fear of the future it's um it's a sense of impending doom it's a sense of anxiousness but what is it
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physiologically what's going on in the body well very often it is a rise in catacol amines the same class of
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neurotransmitters that are that are involved in a fight ORF flight response and this is why very often people that
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suffer from anxiety don't have a specific trigger they can point to they could be on a podcast like you and I are
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going doing right now and all of a sudden as those catac colomines rise they get that sensation of anxiety and
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they're trying to pin it on their outside environment they're trying to look for a cluster of symptoms outside their body but this is because they are
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deficient usually in a complex of B vitamins um a very specific form of B12 called
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methylcobalamin methylfolate these methylated nutrients that that downregulate these catac colomines what
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else could it be well I mean there are true anxiety disorders right um and
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generally people that have true anxiety actually know what the trigger is they're afraid of heights they walk to the edge of a 30th floor balcony they
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have an anxiety um attack they have a fear of flights Is this different from so someone's been through a trauma in
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their life so they had an early trauma and then certain things in their adult life end up triggering that mhm this is
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that's very different from what you're saying here so some people that have trauma and they wake up for example
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consistently in the past right their first thought of the day is about the pain that they are already suffering
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from well these thoughts fight or flight thoughts these these thoughts have a tendency to be worst case scenario
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because they are also highly related to camines in fact people that have that
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gene mutation fall into one of two categories think about it this way if catacol means rise very fast you're a
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warrior and the nickname for that Gene is either a worrior or a warrior because
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as those catacol means they call it fast comp tea or slow comp tea so just looking at this one gene mutation if
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you're slow to break these catacol amines down and they rise what are the consequences of that um I lay down to go
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to sleep at night and I'm body tired but I'm mind awake right my mind is just clicking through the day thinking about
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the most innocuous little thoughts um I have a tendency when I consider scenarios to go straight to worst case
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scenario I'm an overthinker um I I am prone to anxiousness and anxiety I walk
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around at a six instead of walking around at a two so things that would only move somebody from a zero to a two
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take me from a six to an eight very often people in their surrounding environment will say the punishment
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doesn't fit the crime the way that they react to certain situations so this means that the mind is in awaken State a
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heightened state of alertness think about a fight ORF flight response but not quite to that level but they're in a
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heightened state of alertness and this gives you that that feeling of anxiety now what's driving the catacol meines
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can have different drivers it could be this gene mutation it could be trauma it could be the presence of a real fear
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could be that you're claustrophobic and stepping on a crowded elevator but for people that have not isolated trauma in
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their life they have a tendency to consider worst case scenario they find that their mind is very active at night
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interrupts their sleep or if they get up to go to sleep at night and they go back to bed and they can't fall asleep because their mind is awake thinking
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about the most innocuous little thoughts they have a tendency to be anxious they have a tendency to be a worrier they
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have a tendency to have feelings of anxiety that are not tied to their outside environment those are all
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Hallmarks of that gene mutation so can I view this as a predisposition I you know
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I I often wonder why we can all be in the same situation but we can have entirely different experiences um in the
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case of anxiety some people as you report just for some reason they're just more anxious in the n in the modern
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world than some other people aren't the modern world has changed we use screens and we have notifications and we have all this stimuli they're struggling more
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in the modern world than others um what you're suggesting is that they could have a
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predisposition to worry more because of these catacol means because of the
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catacol means yes catacol means norepinephrine epinephrine a fedone
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dopamine one of those we call also call Adrenaline and so you have the main driver of behavior and you have catac
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colines and we all know that adrenaline does in the body so when these four neurotransmitters are not
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downregulated right then our mind is awake and it is very often fearful think
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about somebody who has a sensation of impending doom or anxiety without any
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any trigger and and and the other Hallmark is they will have had it on and off throughout their entire lifetime
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even when they were a child when they were a child they might have understood the complex sensation of anxiety but
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they had that sensation and then as they grew to be an adult they understood that this is anxiety I mean when you when
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you're when you're a child you're just fearful right I mean you don't know how explain to your mom hey I'm worried
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about something that is might happen in the future that's probably not likely to happen that's never happening but I'm
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still afraid it's going to happen it's a very complex emotion right so they've had it on and off their entire lifetime
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it's very hard for them to point to the specific trigger that causes it the majority of the time if they tried anti-
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anxiety medications they don't work they just make them feel like a zombie so this is time to look inside and make
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sure the body has the raw material it needs to do its job which is the complex of B vitamins to dismantle catacol
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amines so if we went out onto the street now and I pulled in a 100 people just off the street that were walking past and we did these three tests on them to
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look at their glycemic profile their hormone panel their nutrient deficiencies what are some of the most
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popular things that a random group of people off the street would be missing that are Central to their high
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performance um so let's let's take men and then we'll take women so so we can be specific about hormones so in 50% of
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that population you would see a clinical deficiency in vitamin D3 I have to say you've actually you actually run a lot
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of tests every single month yes tens of thousands we run 20,000 a month we do about 20,000 Gene tests a month I mean
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so so one of the uniique things about the perspective that I come from is we have voluminous amounts of data you know
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we see 20,000 of these new um patients a month testing for for genetic
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methylation and on a lot of these patients we also have blood work so we have full what's called a CBC
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comprehensive metabolic panel lipid panel hormone profile a full thyroid panel we have their nutrient
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deficiencies that I'm speaking of um we have cholesterol triglycerides so we have a pretty we have about 74
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biomarkers on them then we also get this genetic test and then we look at what
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happens to certain biomarkers on average when you when you simply supplement for deficiency so for example I'm not saying
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that every person that has high blood pressure or hypertension has this gene mutation but two of these genes are
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highly linked to poor homosysteine metabolism and there have been plenty of peer viwed studies we can put the link
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to the one below in the Journal of hypertension um which linked higher levels of urinary catacol amines to an
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and urinary homocysteine to um uh cardiovascular disease because what
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happens is when you have a certain amino acid in particular rise in the blood called homosysteine as this amino acid
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Rises it has a tendency to cause the vascular system to constrict and if we make the pipe smaller in a fixed system
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pressure goes up but there's nothing wrong with hard right and so think about
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the fact that 85% of all diagnosis of hypertension is idiopathic it's of
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Unknown Origin well of Unknown Origin means we can't find anything wrong with the heart we've tested the heart EKGs
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eegs stress tests die contrast studies cardiac cath what have you but we we
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haven't looked at the vascular system we haven't looked to see was there a simple nutrient deficiency keeping this person
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from breaking down homosysteine which caused the vascular system to constrict because we know that there's a
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correlation between this amino acid homosysteine and its elevated nature and
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and increased risk of cardiovascular disease so before we actually went the routes of chemicals and synthetics and
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pharmaceuticals why wouldn't we just test to see see if we have an issue um dismantling this amino acid you
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know breaking this amino acid down into something called methionine and why don't we supplement for that deficiency
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and see if by putting that raw material back into the body and bringing homoy metabolism into normal we can normalize
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this person so back to your question without the people in the street you would see that 50% of them are clinically deficient in vitamin D3 coloc
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calciferol you know the sunshine vitamin um the darker their complexion the higher the uh risk that they would be
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clinically deficient in vitamin D3 and if if you put vitamin D3 at the center of a hub of a wheel and looked at all of
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the different spokes it's one of the only vitamins that human beings make on our own I have argued and and um people
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have counter argued but I take the position that it's arguably one of the most if not the most important nutrient
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in the human body you need you need a lot of essential nutrients but if you really start ice ating them you know
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vitamin D3 is the only vitamin that human beings make on our own um every cell in the body has a receptor site for
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vitamin D3 when we're deficient in this vitamin um this nutrient acts like a hormone sometimes it acts like a vitamin
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other times we make it from sunlight and cholesterol when it's deficient we have a compromised immune system we know that
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it leads to osteopenia osteoporosis there all kinds of consequences that you wouldn't think stem from a simple
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nutrient deficiency but they do one that we get from going outside in the sun we get it from going outside in the sun we
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make it from sunlight and cholesterol um and and you know if you look at you know Co statistics it was the second leading
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cause of morbidity in Co um and so so first you would see that they're D3
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deficient the majority of them are also B12 deficient if you look at the vitamin B12 you'd see it's less than 500 um the
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higher end of B12 is around 1,50 and then you would see 25 to 40% of
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that population would be hormone deficient meaning that their hormones would be out of the optimal range but
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not because they have an endocrine system issue per se generally because
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they have especially in younger ages nutrient deficiencies things like elevated shbg sex hormone binding
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globulin deficiencies in DHEA raw materials that the body needs to manufacture hormones so a good hormone
00:27:22
panel will tell you not only what your hormone levels are but what some of the nutrients are that are your body's using
00:27:27
to make those hormones and again by by putting some of these raw materials very often DHEA not all
00:27:33
the time but very often putting DHEA and vitamin D3 alone back into men with
00:27:38
deficient levels of testosterone or deficient levels of free testosterone or looking at a protein that interrupts the
00:27:45
conversion of testosterone into free testosterone called shbg by actually just addressing these you see that the
00:27:52
hormone levels rise back to the normal range they don't need to take hormones from outside the body and shut their production down they need to put
00:27:59
nutrients and raw materials back into the body so their body can produce hormones on their own and then if you
00:28:04
looked at their glycemic control you would see a shockingly high percentage
00:28:11
of people that are pre-diabetic it is an absolute pandemic
00:28:16
right now because the amount of processed foods we we think that the pre-diabetes um you know is only because people that
00:28:23
are eating a ton of sugar so they must be drinking soda and eating chocolate cake and Ben and& Jerry's every night
00:28:28
but that's actually not true when we overload the body with high glycemic carbohydrates even if they ate a lot of
00:28:35
white flour white rice white bread white pasta white potatoes and fruit you know
00:28:40
they I'm not saying any of those things are going to kill you but when we eat diets high and refined carbohydrates
00:28:45
even things that we don't consider to be sweets it overpowers our pancreas and
00:28:51
our blood sugar gets out of control but wouldn't you want to know that wouldn't you want to know that um do I have some
00:28:57
of these nutrient deficiencies or hormone imbalances or poor blood sugar control that could be nibbling away at
00:29:03
my performance am I maybe one raw material one methylated multivitamin away or an amino acid away from being in
00:29:10
a state of being optimal maybe even not having to deal with little things like
00:29:16
um intermittent feelings of anxiousness and anxiety or poor focus and concentration or even mild states of
00:29:23
mood numbness remember that nutrients Amino for example in our
00:29:30
gut become neurotransmitters neurotransmitters form the basis of all mood they drive our emotion they they um
00:29:37
they govern our behavior and so is it possible that an amino acid like tryptophan or phenol alanine or tyrosine
00:29:45
which become serotonin and dopamine the deficiencies in these amino acids could lead to deficiencies in hormones which
00:29:51
could actually lead to deficiencies in neurotransmitters that would be labeled of mental illness yes
00:29:58
so again I feel I feel like I'm eating your face a little bit but but what I what I really mean to say is that you
00:30:06
know if if we would get basic information basic data on the body hormone balance um glycemic control
00:30:13
nutrient deficiencies if we would actually look at what our body can convert into the usable form and what it can't and supplement for that deficiency
00:30:20
you would see your body begin to thrive in ways you never thought possible you work with a lot of high-profile
00:30:26
individuals as well I do what are some of the high-profile names that you're you have permission to share well
00:30:32
clearly anyone that's shared their their Journey with me on on on the podcast um it was a great hit piece on me in the
00:30:38
Daily Mail that had listed I listed a lot of them um but uh Dana White um
00:30:44
Steve Harvey uh Stephen A Smith um Steve Aoki
00:30:50
um Kendall Jenner and and I were on a uh one of her Hulu specials uh together
00:30:56
running some IVs there are few others that will be public here very shortly that have got on podcast with me and I
00:31:03
and it's I don't necessarily want to be known as like a celebrity biologist or or working with um just working with
00:31:09
professional athletes and a-listers it's my message is for is actually for the
00:31:14
non-woke biohacker like I don't feel like my job is to sit here impress you with how smart I am I feel like my job
00:31:19
is to put information out to the masss that that is educational enough to
00:31:27
inspire them to make a change and and I think all too often we you know we're
00:31:33
we're all competing for eyeballs in this in this space and we're trying to become the biggest influencer and we we really
00:31:39
forget about the mission of speaking to the masses and we just start speaking to each other like we we want to get on
00:31:45
podcasts and Stage talks and interviews and impress people with how much we know about the carboxylic acid cycle or you
00:31:51
know electron transport chain or something going on inside of the mitochondria and and those minute
00:31:57
nuances are not what's going to impact Humanity a lot has changed since we last
00:32:02
sat down in your life it has yeah really has I feel like I feel like I live somebody else's
00:32:07
life I really do what's what's changed I mean when I when I first reached out to you it was because I saw a clip on
00:32:14
YouTube which had 20,000 views and that clip on YouTube I found really interesting so I think I I personally
00:32:19
sent you a DM and said hey Gary you to come on my show which I to be honest never personally send the DM because
00:32:26
yeah because my team way our system works here is um they understand what I'm interested in and curious about
00:32:32
right now so they'll go out into the market and try and find people for me they'll bring those PE those people to
00:32:37
me as a pitch they'll pitch the individuals to me and then I have the say whether I'm curious enough to sit
00:32:42
down and have the conversation right now I made it twice right so in this case it was I I've seen something you You' done
00:32:48
online I don't know more than a year ago now it feels like and it was really compelling to me so I wanted to sit down with you since then I've observed you
00:32:55
you've kind of had this sort of meteoric rise um on loads of different podcasts and
00:33:00
social media and your business has exploded there is something different about
00:33:06
you and the thing that's different about you that strikes me is you strike me as a man that has been
00:33:14
through some [ __ ] oh yeah frankly yeah because because the the Gary that I met
00:33:19
the first time versus this Gary slightly different and it's the type of thing when someone's been through some [ __ ] M
00:33:25
and with all good things come the opposite yeah it's unavoidable yeah I
00:33:30
mean you you you go under a level of scrutiny you know you start off you're like so excited you're like I'm going to
00:33:36
get the message out and God God's blessed me with the ability to take Ultra complicated information distill it
00:33:41
down and get it to the masses and then you realize that there are people that are watching your videos like a three-hour podcast and
00:33:48
they're looking for the one gotta moment right he said sodium chloride not sodium hydroxide scam artist charlatan you know
00:33:55
he pretends to be a doctor he's not a doctor I've never pretended to be a doctor you will not find a a video a stage talk a podcast that anything in
00:34:02
the media where I've ever represented that I'm a doctor I go out of my way to say that I'm not licensed to practice medicine so yeah I have become a little
00:34:09
more gunshy31
00:34:17
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00:34:28
because I spent so many years of my life not in service to
00:34:33
humanity and I think a lot of people find their purpose in their pleasure and
00:34:39
I found my purpose from my pain what
00:34:46
pain you know when when um when I was
00:34:53
doing life expectancies and and and mortality predictions um we were sort of brainwashed to
00:35:00
believe that this was just data right you weren't responsible for it you didn't have anything uh to do with this
00:35:07
person I was on a mortality team and uh we were charged with predicting the life
00:35:13
expectancy of people for um large life insurance and investment companies so
00:35:18
when you apply for a large life insurance policy you know everybody's on an Actuarial curve right so you're on
00:35:24
one I'm on one everybody listening to this podcast is on an actu curve what happens is when a life insurance company
00:35:31
is getting ready to put 10 million or 20 million or $50 million worth of risk on your life only one thing matters how
00:35:37
many more months do you have left on earth and the science of predicting that
00:35:43
mortality is very accurate science I get a lot of flak about it but if you want to know how accurate life insurance
00:35:50
companies are at predicting death just look at what happened during the 2008 2009 Financial Services crisis we had
00:35:58
we had 364 Banks fail not a single life insurance company failed a valid death
00:36:03
claim in the United States has never failed to have been paid they are some of the most solvent institutions in the world there's not another financial
00:36:09
services Enterprise anywhere on the planet that would take that level of risk on one variable I mean you have an
00:36:15
investment fund you wouldn't put that level of risk on a single variable right
00:36:21
how many more months does this person have left on Earth and they have data that no other medical Enterprise has
00:36:27
they have data that no other Collegiate university has not even the government has they know the day the date the time the location and the cause of death for
00:36:35
millions and millions of lives so they know what leads to early mortality and
00:36:40
so how do they get your sort of Health bu markers to overlap that with well first of all they do a blood test on you
00:36:46
so if you've ever had a large life I'm not talking about term life insurance where you get $100,000 or2 200,000 or even a million dollar term life
00:36:52
insurance policy I'm talking about permanent universal life or whole life life insurance um also annuities when
00:37:00
when you um there's something in the States called a spia single premium immediate annuity where you give the
00:37:06
insurance company for example a check for a million dollars they guarantee you an income stream for life well how do
00:37:13
you think they're determining that income stream they they're predicting how many more months you have left on Earth and they they use morbidity
00:37:20
factors and co-morbidity factors and yes they factor into to your your recreational profile your demographic
00:37:26
profile it's not as simple as a blood test or a gene test but essentially what you do is you start on a curve in a pool
00:37:32
of a thousand lives that are similar to yours and and your life expectancy is
00:37:38
the dead center of that curve so if your life expectancy is 200 months that means in 200 months you have the exact same
00:37:44
chance of being dead as you do of Being Alive Now what determines your increased
00:37:50
probability of death or your mortality factors are you obese diabetic anemic
00:37:55
you have cognitive decline are you compliant with with your medication you know there are all of these different
00:38:00
debits and then there are certain debits that we called comorbidities right so if you hypertensive that was a debit if you
00:38:07
were if you were diabetic that was a debit if you were um obese that was a de
00:38:12
debit but if you were hypertensive diabetic and obese it wasn't 1 plus 1
00:38:18
plus 1 it was 1 plus 1 plus 1 equal 10 right these were massive comorbidity
00:38:23
factors my job was to read the medical record and do the medical record extraction and we
00:38:30
had incredible data on on on these people you saw their trust um and you saw their Wills their trust their
00:38:37
divorce decrees you knew that they were treating their children differently in their in their estate um bank accounts
00:38:42
brokerage accounts tax returns um and their medical records and you have recent blood work on them but when you
00:38:50
read a medical record on somebody there's more than just their height weight and blood pressure and the medications that they're on you really
00:38:56
start to get a profile from for a lot for the for the person and a lot of
00:39:01
times I felt like I was really getting to know these people oddly because I had so much personal information on them and
00:39:09
you know a lot of these people came alive to me I know that
00:39:16
sounds very strange but when you're reading about their repeated you know
00:39:22
visits to the doctor and they're constantly talking about you know their grandchildren and then all of a sudden
00:39:27
you see in the medical record where the husband passed away and then you see the anti-depressants creeping in and you see
00:39:34
um their their waking their body mass index change and you you actually as you're going through years of their
00:39:40
medical record you really get a real profile for them and I started to
00:39:46
realize that there were human beings on the other side of these spreadsheets
00:39:51
and there were cases where I knew that if I could have picked up the phone and
00:39:57
just contacted that patient I could have completely changed the trajectory of their life and I was prohibited from
00:40:05
doing so by law and even at one point in my career I was
00:40:11
threatened with prosecution for threatening to call a patient and warn them about um a a a life-threatening
00:40:19
potential life-threatening drug interaction that I'd spotted in the medical record between two Physicians
00:40:24
that had written contraindicated scripts and something called the MIB the medical information Bureau hadn't uh picked it
00:40:29
up and the data that I had said that this was going to lead to a thrombolitic event like a blood a blood coll of
00:40:35
stroke you know heart attack and embolism and um I remember calling the
00:40:40
Human Resources Director and just you know basically saying that I'm going to contact this patient and and and being
00:40:47
threatened with prosecution and I I think about it a lot
00:40:53
and I just think about all the times I could have picked up the phone and just made a real material change in
00:41:00
somebody's life and I didn't have the opportunity to do it and big part of my career felt like I
00:41:06
was you know sitting behind a thick glass wall just watching blind people walk into traffic
00:41:13
and so I wasn't in service to humanity all I wanted to do was be wealthy I was very
00:41:18
unauthentic and then I just woke up one day and said what the hell am I doing I mean I have so much information I'm a
00:41:26
human biologist and I I I've been studying this database for 20 years I could help people live healthier
00:41:32
happier longer lives and and I quit my career and I went home and told my
00:41:39
fiance at the time now my wife that I wanted to start a wellness firm and that
00:41:44
was the the the Genesis of of my firm streamline and part of the trajectory that I'm on and so it still sits with
00:41:52
you every day really oh dude it's it's
00:41:59
well it it sits with me in a good way because you know whereas before it's it's really hard to imagine
00:42:07
you know somebody coming into your office and going hey you know Gary oh my God remember the um you know the Mrs
00:42:12
Smith life expectancy we we we did 13 years ago you know you did this life expectancy was 188 months you predict
00:42:19
188 months she died in 184 months oh my god did a great job it's
00:42:25
amazing that claim just paid and like is it really amazing you know
00:42:31
um when you start to realize that was somebody's you know it's like somebody's sister or Somebody's Daughter Somebody's
00:42:37
Mother you start to realize that I I allow myself to be brainwash and just
00:42:43
think that it was data and forget that there was human beings on the other side of the the spreadsheet and so
00:42:50
now I'm sorry I'm getting emotion but but um you know now I wake up every day and I like open my eyes and I go [ __ ]
00:42:57
yeah you know I got a chance to to make a difference and and I talk about the
00:43:02
research and and the fact patterns that we saw in predicting death and I want to
00:43:07
counter those so that we can extend life um so we can help people live longer
00:43:14
healthier happier lives so the counterarguments that
00:43:20
you've experienced you know you use the word counterargument and H HIIT piece what do those sort of counterarguments tend to
00:43:26
send on as it relates to your work obviously you talked about the doctor thing I've definitely made some mistakes
00:43:32
you know I I I made a mistake earlier in my career of quoting articles and not
00:43:38
and not research which I regret and I and I've made some of those mistakes I think very often what I try to do is is
00:43:45
simplify the message I talked for example about a 2018 study we should put the link to this um which was in the
00:43:51
Journal of um uh headaches and face pain there's a journal of headaches and face
00:43:57
pain I want to say it was 2018 there were 8,819 participants in this metaanalysis so a very large um analysis
00:44:07
and they found a direct inverse relationship between sodium intake and migraine
00:44:13
headaches and meaning that as sodium levels went up migraine headaches went down now by no means am I telling
00:44:19
everybody that has a migraine headache that you need to take a little bit of salt and you're going to be fine what I'm saying is on your on your
00:44:25
comprehensive metabolic panel you can see your sodium level when your sodium level gets to a critically low level
00:44:31
which believe it or not quite a few people have people that regularly sa up people that exercise and don't remineralize with electrolytes people
00:44:36
that drink um filtered bottled water in an effort to filter out fluoride and microplastics but don't remineralize
00:44:43
their water get nutrient deficient sodium and you know remembering that the brain actually doesn't have any pain
00:44:49
receptors but the covering of the brain does you know something called the dura and the dura hates two things it hates
00:44:56
being stretched hates being contracted and what what determines whether or not it's stretching or Contracting is something called the osmotic gradient
00:45:02
the movement of water across the membrane and yes it can be as simple as supplementing with sodium my preference
00:45:09
would be Baja gold sea salt or Celtic salt um so that you get all of the other trace minerals as well um to permanently
00:45:17
put migraine headaches into remission and then you know out come all of the Physicians saying there's no evidence of
00:45:23
that well there clinical trials on that and the other the other tool that I have in my chest is for 20
00:45:29
years I worked with one of the largest databases in the world and we're at the point now where we see 20,000 new Gene
00:45:35
tests a month I don't know many clinics that are that busy so we have voluminous amounts of data we see what happens when
00:45:42
you have high homosysteine and you put them on you put a patient on an amino acid called trimethyl Glycine and the
00:45:49
homosysteine comes down and then they go to their doctor and their blood pressure is normalized not once not twice not
00:45:55
anecdotally thousands and thousands of times you see what happens to people
00:46:00
when you bring their hemoglobin A1c and their insulin back down into the optimal level and their triglycerides return to
00:46:05
normal and their risk for cardiovascular disease declines you see what happens to C reative proteins when people take
00:46:11
simple things like silic Clays um and activated charcoals and so I want to
00:46:18
keep getting the message out that very often disease is not happening to us it's happening within us and very often
00:46:24
it's happening because of deficiencies in the human body not pathology in the human body and you know in in in the
00:46:33
United States we we're by far the largest spender of on Healthcare you know we spend four and a half trillion dollars a year on on Healthcare in the
00:46:39
US we have the highest infant mortality rate we have the highest maternal mortality rate um even though we lead
00:46:47
the the world in flu vaccinations and breast Greening um and and breast cancer screening and colar rectal screening we
00:46:53
also lead the world in cancer um we're ranked 52nd life expectancy we're ranked 39th in in healthc care delivery um
00:47:01
we're one of the most obese Nations on the planet twice the rate of obesity of any other civilized um nation and yet
00:47:08
modern medicine being you know medical era being the third leading cause of death is where we're going to get
00:47:16
information on how we extend our life and I watched in medical records I've probably read thousands of times more
00:47:22
medical records than most Physicians cuz I read medical records all day every day six days a week for for almost 20 years
00:47:28
and I would see what would happen when simple deficiencies would be mistaken as
00:47:34
a pathological condition and I've talked about these a lot
00:47:39
um like clinical deficiencies in in vitamin D3 for prolong periods of time
00:47:44
eventually present as rheumatoid arthritis like symptoms people get joint aches and pains and and stiff and sore
00:47:51
ankles and they have a hard time making a fist and and you know when you're speaking to the wrong physician very often a doctor doctor will diagnose you
00:47:58
based on your medical history not before they do SED rates and rheumatoid arthritis you know actual blood uh
00:48:05
checks they'll say you know what Stephen you've got rheumatoid arthritis and they put you on on things like
00:48:10
corticosteroids and in the mortality space we had data so we had data on all
00:48:15
of these Pharmaceuticals so we knew the trajectory of of hormones and cell walls and cell membranes and um production of
00:48:23
vitamin D3 when somebody took a Statin and reduced cholesterol and we looked at you know they the studies will look at
00:48:29
cholesterol in a complete vacuum so LDL cholesterol high so that's bad let's bring LDL cholesterol down with a Statin
00:48:36
so we decrease the risk ofio cardiovascular disease but then you have a concen outcome where you you're
00:48:42
reducing the ability for the body to make hormones and cell walls and cell membranes and so you buy yourself a consequence Downstream when really if we
00:48:50
go back to just studying the physiology of the human body when we in in the mortality space I don't think I saw a
00:48:56
single centenarian once and we processed hundreds of these death claims I don't
00:49:01
think I saw a single centenarian that at the time of death did not have clinically elevated levels of LDL
00:49:06
cholesterol so it begs the question is simply having high LDL cholesterol on marker for um longevity or is it a a
00:49:15
marker for cardiovascular disease that needs to be intervened with a chemical or a synthetic and and these
00:49:22
corticosteroids that people are put on you know very often they they they're they're any inflammatory in the
00:49:27
beginning but then they eat the joint like a termite and and so these were resulting in voluminous amounts of joint
00:49:37
Replacements so accurately that we would we were able to predict that the course
00:49:43
of some of these medications would result in a joint replacement in roughly six years and so we would artificially
00:49:48
Advance people's age six years and we would actually schedule the joint replacement for them and then we would reduce what's called their ambulatory
00:49:55
profile how well they ambulate how well they moved and as we reduce their Mobility we could bring in all of these
00:50:00
diseases that exacerbated with reduced mobility and in my mind I'm just watching all this happen go I wanted to
00:50:06
call this these people and say I'm not qualified to do that because I'm not licensed to practice medicine but I I
00:50:12
wanted to call them and just say Mrs Jones stop taking the corticosteroid start suppling vitamin D3 get your B12
00:50:18
level to hear let's fix your hormones because this is killing your Rebel all count and this is what's leading you to
00:50:23
be so exhausted and and no one was looking at at these basic nutrient
00:50:30
deficiencies that we would see run in blood work that would cause all of these
00:50:35
diseases to exacerbate and people were succumbing much earlier to death or to
00:50:42
the loss of their healthspan how many records do you think you saw in your time why you saw the full picture I
00:50:48
would be working on two or three of these four of these cases at a time some were shorter cases some were longer
00:50:54
cases thousands I mean thousands and in the tail end of my career I started to manipulate the um record artificially
00:51:02
just to see what would happen to the life expectancy I would never submit that as a report but I would say what if I fixed the anemia what if I actually
00:51:08
just corrected the D3 deficiency what if um you know I and I was able to um take
00:51:15
out the pre-diabetic condition or reduce their hemoglobin A1c and you would see the life expectancy
00:51:21
jump right and so these are modifiable risk factors and I think how many times
00:51:26
you know I would be reading a medical record i' go well I know what this is going to happen this is just going to get worse because this patient has
00:51:32
anemia like the classic treatment for some anemas is folic acid B12 and and iron and they would give him folic acid
00:51:39
B12 and iron and it wouldn't correct and they give him folic acid B12 and iron they wouldn't correct folic acid B12 and iron wouldn't correct then they wouldn't
00:51:45
realize that um that person can't process folic acid if they gave him
00:51:50
methyl folate methyl cobalamin and iron bisglycinate they need would correct but
00:51:57
these are all sort of symptoms of further Upstream issues right like something that a decision that someone
00:52:02
has made in their life typically typically that has caused them to develop these conditions which far down
00:52:08
the stream like the tree you talked about with the bad Leaf doctors then point at the leaf and go we need to fix
00:52:14
the leaf but it's down in the root somewhere so what are the what are like
00:52:19
the societal and individual level things that we can be doing to prevent us even
00:52:25
getting these chronic diseases is like the simple simple things I'll tell you the simplest thing that we can do first
00:52:32
you we should think about having an an invisible fence around us right like
00:52:37
like a little force field and we should filter things before they make it to the temple um because either we can filter
00:52:44
things for the temple or we can let the temple be the filter so you can drink tap water and if you drink tap water
00:52:50
your body will filter out the fluoride the chlorine the microplastics the Pharmaceuticals or you can filter your
00:52:55
water before you drink it right and and take one toxic load off your body so what I would say is
00:53:02
probably five things that I would commit to doing on a regular basis number one
00:53:07
is upon waking I would I would drink a mineral mineralized water I would take
00:53:13
10 ounces of water and I would add either a Celtic Sea salt or a Baja gold salt to my water the reason for that is
00:53:19
that most of us are deficient in some or several of the trace minerals in our
00:53:25
body the boring ones Bor on manganese malum selenium and Stir It Up and just
00:53:30
whack it back the second thing I would do is you're not talking about table salt here no no no not sodium chloride
00:53:35
no I'm talking about Baja gold sea salt that's probably the best salt that you can put in the human body because it has
00:53:42
all 91 trace minerals it's tested down to 250 parts per billion um from
00:53:47
microplastics and glyphosat-prozess
00:53:56
that with Celtic salt right and if you can't get Celtic salt then you could move to a pink Himalayan sea salt the
00:54:02
problem with pink Himalayan sea salt recently is that a lot of it has um heavy metals because it's coming out of
00:54:07
China so I would say the best salt is Baja gold a a great salt is K Celtic
00:54:13
salt and a decent salt is pink Himalayan sea salt forget table salt I would just
00:54:19
get that permanently out of your life okay so number one I have my b mineralize mineralize um and then number
00:54:26
too I would I would take a DHEA EPA fish oil supplement or a a fatty acid
00:54:32
supplement with DHEA or EPA oil um an MCT oil I'll take a fatty acid um oil in
00:54:40
the morning an Omega supplement an omega omega 3 an omega3 supplement and then I
00:54:45
would develop a morning routine that included the basics from Mother Nature sunlight grounding breath work cold
00:54:52
shower okay so I want to zoom in here on grounding mhm I'm a huge fan of grounding my
00:54:58
girlfriend grounds and again listen my girlfriend's much smarter than I am it transpires because everything she says I
00:55:04
think I said this to you last time everything she says to me eventually I sit here with like a neuroscientist a year later and turns out she was
00:55:09
absolutely right and I thought she was a little bit cuckoo for thinking that getting outside in the morning and poking her feet on the ground were at
00:55:16
all beneficial but I've been told time and time again it is what is grounding and why does it
00:55:21
help so we get three things from Mother Nature right we get magnetism from the Earth we get oxygen from the air we get
00:55:27
light from the sun the further we get away from those things the sicker we become really yes absolutely magnetism
00:55:34
piece it sounds like uh like a spiritual cuckoo stuff yeah I mean probably 10,000
00:55:40
years ago they probably thought the same thing about gravity you know but um but the Earth has a low gal current right I
00:55:46
mean we were meant to spend 85% of our time outside we spend 97% of our time indoors now the truth is most of us are
00:55:53
not getting enough Sun we're not getting too much sun we're not getting enough on and you know because of the way we eat
00:55:59
and Seed oils and everything that are that are oxidizing in our skin our cancer rates are are are exploding but
00:56:05
not because of our sun exposure it's because of our our diet and we can talk about that later but when you touch the
00:56:11
surface of the Earth when bare feet touch bare soil grass sand we discharge into the Earth and by that I mean you
00:56:17
actually change the polarity in the body and this is measurable in fact if you want to do a little experiment um find
00:56:23
find somebody that has a microscope a basic microscope and get a slide and just take a prick prick your finger and
00:56:29
take a drop of your blood and put it on that slide smear it around and look at it under the microscope I think I have a
00:56:34
video of this on my Instagram and what you'll see when you look at your blood in real time is you'll see most of your
00:56:39
red blood cells are stuck together and clumped up not clotted but they're attracted to each other because when
00:56:45
cells have the same charge they repel when they repel it increases the amount of surface area that that cell has to
00:56:51
contact the outside environment so now it can exchange waste it can eliminate waste detoxify repair can regenerate so
00:57:00
imagine that you have bloodstream full of red blood cells and they start to get opposite charges so they attract and
00:57:06
when they attract they touch and everywhere that they touch that cell loses surface area to exchange with the
00:57:12
outside environment when you touch the surface of the Earth for a few minutes you will repolarize those prick your
00:57:18
finger 10 minutes after you come inside put it back on that same slide look at your blood it's going to look like eggs
00:57:25
slither around in a bowl of oil they will bump into each other and they'll be sliding around but they will not be
00:57:31
clumped together and stuck so what's going on then it must be what coming through my feet the charge coming
00:57:36
through my feet yeah so you're actually discharging into the Earth you know you're exchanging um ions it's a low gas
00:57:42
current so like a magnet you're exchanging ions with the Earth and you're discharging you're you're you're
00:57:47
grounding what if I live on the ground floor do I still have to go outside yes so you got to touch bare dirt soil grass
00:57:53
sand why can't I if I live on the ground floor why doesn't the floor in the lower floor of the house because they that
00:57:59
insulates you from um from the Earth's magnetic field it's usually steel concrete wood there's other barriers
00:58:05
tile asphalt there are things that actually prevent you from actually contacting the surface of the Earth you
00:58:10
know there there there are grounding mattresses that you plug into the ground wire and then um that ground wire if you
00:58:18
if you look at how you know grounding a circuit occurs at some point is running directly into the ground there will be a
00:58:24
pole in the ground that is connected usually by copper to that wire and connect it to your outlet to ground that
00:58:30
outlet can't I just get some kind of mat that has the same charge you could get a pmf mat but again you know one of the
00:58:37
things I get a lot of flack of is is saying that you have to buy all this expensive equipment so there's two ways to do it you can buy a pulse
00:58:44
electromagnetic field mat a pmf mat I have one um they cost about five grand
00:58:49
um so if you got five grand lying around it's one of the best investments you can make you put it in your bed you go to sleep on it you you run it you run a low
00:58:56
gous current at night it will help get you into a deep sleep you'll wake up alkaline every morning um it will push
00:59:02
the electr smog right out of your your body um because pmf gets rid of electr smog 5G Wi-Fi when you say you wake up
00:59:09
alkaline every morning so when you change the um so the pH of the blood is is a pretty narrow range it's about it's
00:59:15
about 510 of a point it's about half a point and it's a complete fallacy that you can change the pH of the blood by
00:59:23
drinking alkaline water alkaline water will actually actually change the pH of your blood if you want to change the pH
00:59:29
of your blood amongst other things you you apply a low gous current pH stands for potential hydrogen it's a charge and
00:59:36
so by running a low gas current through the body or touching the surface of the Earth you actually can move the pH of
00:59:41
the blood slightly and that does an alkaline state is a disease-free State the more acidic we get the sicker we
00:59:48
become and so um and so if we want to move the pH of of the blood slightly if
00:59:55
we want to wake up alkaline if we want to run a low gas current through our body we can either touch the surface of
01:00:00
the Earth or buy a pmf mat so so they've done tests where someone lays on a p fmat for a certain amount of time they
01:00:05
then do a blood test and they find that their blood is more alkaline yes yes and
01:00:11
that that separation of blood cells you can see instantly um getting off of a pmf met again I've got videos of me
01:00:17
doing this to my production manager on um you know in my house breaking his finger putting it on the on the slide
01:00:24
putting on the uh the pmf and actually looking at it afterwards the second thing I would do is I would learn to do breath work I use something called a
01:00:30
hypermax which is based on um Dr Van Arden and Dr Auto warberg um Nobel prize
01:00:37
winning work and that is the it's called multi-step oxygen therapy where you actually take an oxygen concentrator you
01:00:42
fill up a bag full of 900 L of 95% O2 and you actually just breathe that 95%
01:00:47
O2 for 10 to 12 minutes while you're active on a treadmill but if you don't want to have an ewat exercise with
01:00:54
oxygen therapy machine you can learn to do breath work engage the auxiliary muscles of respiration get oxygen down
01:01:00
into the loes of your lungs and out of the Apex of your lungs one of the one of the articles that I quoted that turned
01:01:06
out not to be a study and I still can't find the reference for it was that after age
01:01:11
35 90% of people will never Sprint again and again I haven't been able to
01:01:17
find if that came from a clinical study or itoen an article but whether or not that's true the vast
01:01:24
majority of people stop engaging their auxiliary muscles of respiration you know really exercising
01:01:32
our diaphragm using the intercostal muscles between our ribs pushing air down into loes of our body and as our
01:01:39
posture collapses and our CO2 Rises you know if you think about the expired air in your body from the tip of your nose
01:01:44
and the tip of your mouth all the way down your esophagus out your bronchioles into the farthest reaches of your lungs
01:01:50
that's all expired air until you get the oxygen all the way down and out to the
01:01:56
edges of the lung you're not getting oxygen into the bloodstream so as we age and our posture collapse our respiratory
01:02:02
rate gets more and more shallow we're essentially hyperventilating carbon dioxide right and which is accelerating
01:02:08
aging I mean aging is the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease and so
01:02:14
by just learning how to do breath work so one I would ground two I would I would learn to do breath work I do a whm
01:02:20
Hoff style of breath work I do three rounds of 30 breaths with an extended breath hold every single morning it is
01:02:26
the one thing that I never ever ever ever Miss why ever because I make little
01:02:34
promises to myself and I try to keep them and I find that I lose confidence
01:02:41
in myself when I consistently break really small promises to myself um and I
01:02:46
think a lot of people do this and our bodies crave consistency and so you lose confidence
01:02:52
in yourself you say you know I'm going to go to bed at you know 10:30 tonight
01:02:57
and you go to bed at 1:00 a.m. you know and then you say I'm going to work out in first thing in the morning and you
01:03:04
actually don't work out or you get up in the morning you say I listen to that podcast I'm going to do what Gary said
01:03:09
I'm going to ground and get some sunlight and I'm going to do some breath work and then you actually don't do it so the little internal promises that you
01:03:15
make to yourself and I feel like a lot of people break these little promises to
01:03:21
themselves they're not making them to their spouse or to their kids or to their Partners or you know they're they're not the big promises that
01:03:27
everybody knows about and I think it nibbles away at our self-confidence and our own ability to trust ourselves and
01:03:34
so I have a morning routine um I'm very consistent with it but the one thing that is portable for me is the ability
01:03:41
to get outside and ground and do breath work and I never ever ever Miss I can't
01:03:48
even tell you how many years I've gone without missing a single morning of breath work the other thing that it does for me because you know human beings
01:03:54
crave consistency so if within 30 minutes of waking every day no matter what time zone you're in
01:04:00
you're doing three rounds of 30 breaths your body begins to zero in on that and it begins to understand that that's the
01:04:07
morning this is go time and so simple to do you know when I'm here I wake up I
01:04:13
might be at a different time because I'm usually on the East Coast so I wake up earlier here but I go I open the door I
01:04:18
go out on the balcony I sit on a chair it's nice and cool outside I face the Sun and I do three rounds at 30 breaths
01:04:24
every single day my partner brought me one of those big red light panels for Christmas it was my
01:04:31
Christmas present and funnily enough guess what my Christmas present to her was as well [ __ ] yeah you get a bed
01:04:38
or did you get the panels the panels it so funny you get like juo or I have no idea what' you get okay I have no idea
01:04:44
the brand but but she brought me one it's like a small one and then I was like babe open your present and then I
01:04:50
opened she opened hers and hers was like a big one she's like literally half the size of me so it's was quite soet
01:04:55
swapped um but we now both use it it's a bit of a routine in the morning we wake up we go and sit down by it and I'm not
01:05:03
really sure what's it's doing I've just heard a lot of positive things I've done a little bit of my own research on it
01:05:09
and how to use it to make sure I'm not like killing myself somehow but um what is it doing and why should everyone
01:05:14
consider getting one so it's it's referred to in the literature it's photobiomodulation photobiomodulation so
01:05:21
if you want to look up any of the clinical studies put photobiomodulation and and then put and
01:05:27
dementia and Alzheimer's and skin and um inflammation and and the studies will
01:05:32
come up but basically different nanometers of of of Light have different
01:05:38
effects in the body and um so they are um well researched and and publicized to
01:05:45
reduce inflammation um increase microvascular circulation so the smallest of the capillaries in our body
01:05:52
are affected by light um they have a a very specific effect in the mitochondria
01:05:57
the PowerHouse of the cell so if you actually went through the wall of a cell and into the cytoplasm and found the mitochondria and you went into the
01:06:03
mitochondria you'd see that there's a motor in there that's spinning around it's called the KB cycle and this motor
01:06:09
when it spits out energy called ATP um you know essentially it has two choices
01:06:15
every time it makes a revolution right it it can either create two units of energy or it creates 36 units of energy
01:06:22
it's either 16 times more efficient or 16 times less sufficient and what determines that is whether or not oxygen
01:06:29
enters that cycle so one of the things that red light does is it goes through the wall of the mitochondria and it
01:06:35
kicks out a gas called mitochondrial nitric oxide and forces oxygen to dock
01:06:41
so when you get into a red light therapy bed or use red light therapy panels one of the things that's happening is you're
01:06:46
essentially forcing oxygen into the mitochondria you're forcing the oxygen to use mitochondria and release a gas
01:06:52
called mitochondrial nitric oxide this is also measurable by the way you can get saliva nitric oxide strips you could
01:06:57
put it in your mouth and before you got in a red light therapy bed you could look at the saliva um the amount of
01:07:03
nitric oxide in your saliva and you'd see it's like a pale kind of yellowish pink then you get in one of those red light therapy beds for 20 minutes and
01:07:10
about 10 minutes after you get out test it again you'll see that your Nitro oxide levels are through the roof that's
01:07:15
a positive sign that the mitochondria has thrown this gas out and brought oxygen in and it's imagine what happens
01:07:21
in a cell when you give it 16 times the amount of energy so imagine upstaging
01:07:27
trillions of cells to allow them to eliminate waste repair detoxify regenerate just by using light it also
01:07:34
has a very positive effect on collagen elastin fibrin um it's known to improve
01:07:39
angiogenesis the new blood vessel formation I was I was on the uh Joe Rogan's podcast a few months ago and um
01:07:47
he ended up buying one of these red light um beds uh from me and we installed it in his house and he told me
01:07:55
about four or five weeks ago that he's no longer wearing wearing readers anymore like his his eyesight has
01:08:00
improved that much and he said he's starting to really notice the changes in his skin so photobiomodulation is very
01:08:06
real and it absolutely works but um you know without people having to think that
01:08:12
they have to spend that kind of money on a red light therapy bed you can also just expose your skin to sunlight especially during first light the first
01:08:17
45 minutes of the day when there's no UVA there's no UVB there's high amounts of healthy blue light um you can still
01:08:24
generate vitamin D3 let me just run that back so I'm clear um on the point about Rogan's eyesight I did some I was
01:08:31
looking through some research about the impact of red light on eyesight and it said that it's good for eyesight and so
01:08:37
incredibly good for eyesight because I was wondering whether I should be looking at this thing while it's on yes
01:08:42
and then I went online Googled it had a rumage around and it said you can look at it you can stare at it you can yeah
01:08:47
you can because remember there's no UVA there's no UVB um and and and some of
01:08:53
the marginal information that comes out about red light being damaging to you you you have to remember that red light
01:08:58
is a spectrum infrared for example is a spectrum most most red light therapy beds run from 600 um nanometers to about
01:09:06
a th000 nanometers wavelength of light as you get above that you're you're in the infrared Spectrum but you're going
01:09:13
all the way to 1,00 maybe even above so so in other words when you say infrared
01:09:19
light this is a non-visible spectrum of light but there's a there's a broad
01:09:24
number of wavelengths right so an infrared um red light bed will have
01:09:30
infrared light but it will be very low in the Spectrum so it doesn't create heat doesn't excite a chromophor that
01:09:36
creates vibration and makes you sweat when you get an infrared sauna you're getting very high into those wavelengths
01:09:42
you're exciting in different chromophor in the body and your water water to be specific and it vibrates and creates
01:09:47
heat and you start to sweat so you don't sweat in a red light therapy bed even though it's infrared low in the Spectrum
01:09:54
but you do sweat an infrared sauna um even though it's infrared light it's high in the Spectrum so the infrared
01:10:03
light and the red light that comes from Red um red light beds and red light panels and face masks is incredibly
01:10:08
beneficial for you I mean I I would be scared to even tell you all the the positive outcomes that we've SE in
01:10:14
people that regularly use red light therapy because you can't really make
01:10:19
medical claims around them but I can tell you firsthand we have seen just astounding things that people would
01:10:24
probably consider Miracles with red light therapy you mentioned the first 45 minutes of sunlight mhm first light cuz
01:10:31
I'm try I always try to try and figure out the sort of evolutionary backstory to red light and where it came from in
01:10:37
nature and why it was good for us as humans and why we've lost it those are the three sort of questions we're really
01:10:43
photovoltaic beings I mean we're very tied to this Cadian cycle of the sun I mean light causes the body to behave in
01:10:50
very special ways I mean you know you probably heard that getting first light can actually reset your circadian cycle
01:10:56
and do more for you to sleep that night than probably just about any other sleep habit so your sleep routine really
01:11:02
starts with your morning routine and it has a an effect on cortisol receptors it has effect on dopamine I mean on on
01:11:09
melatonin receptors remember cortisol is a hormone that responds to light right I mean um when our light when our eyes are
01:11:15
closed and light is passing through our eyelids it has a tendency to raise our cortisol levels which is why they tell you not to use blue light at night right
01:11:22
you're stimulating cortisol and you're stimulating awaking hormone when you actually trying to go to sleep so by
01:11:27
getting first light you're you're you're telling the body that it's that it's morning you know you're you're raising
01:11:34
cortisol you're downregulating your melatonin receptors you're getting healthy blue light into your eyes you're getting healthy light onto your skin
01:11:41
there's no UVA there's no UVB none of the damaging rays of of the Sun and in
01:11:46
15 or 20 minutes if if you stack them all together you can ground get do breath work and get sunlight just try
01:11:55
for seven days what if I have the red light at night time is that going to check my body into thinking it's the morning no the red light won't won't do
01:12:02
that it's completely different it's not the it's not the blue light spectrum that we're talking about so I can have red light anytime day you can have red
01:12:08
light anytime in fact red light I find it very relaxing I sometimes will do my um my red light bed right before bed
01:12:14
sleep like a baby we've been doing that as well at home so I was just checking I did Google to to see if it was something
01:12:20
that would wake me up but no you're right blue light is the thing that wakes us um bit of a tangent but I just saw
01:12:26
you have a gulp of that water M what is in that water hydrogen water why
01:12:32
hydrogen water this is a little hydrogen generator I don't know if you can still see that but there's um what it's doing
01:12:40
there's a there's a little pick it up and you'll be able to see in the a little electrolysis pump down there and it's and it's basically adding hydrogen
01:12:47
gas to the water there's not much left in there but if you if you fill it with water you can see that I mean it is
01:12:53
fascinating I am so con that hydrogen water is the best water that you can put in the human body and there's a there's
01:13:00
a website called hydrogen studies.com that has about 1350 studies um on the site you can go
01:13:07
to hydrogen studies.com when you get to that site you can actually search um by human clinical trials or animal clinical
01:13:14
trials so you could sort out and look at human clinical trials and look at all of the ways that hydrogen gas is used in
01:13:22
therapeutic treatments reducing inflammation and improving the absorption of supplements improving improving athletic performance delaying
01:13:30
um uh addressing delayed on said muscle soreness reducing neural inflammation I mean there are so many clinical
01:13:36
trials proving the efficacy of hydrogen gas in the body and people do hydrogen
01:13:42
gas through a nasal canul through ear culus through eye cules you can breathe hydrogen gas but by drinking um hydrogen
01:13:49
water you have a very positive effect on inflammation in the body when you pump that hydrogen into there doesn't it just come out the top
01:13:55
no it's sealed so it's under pressure so what it does is it forces the gas back into the liquid okay and so the liquid
01:14:02
actually gets has a high part per million concentration of hydrogen gas the colder the liqu the more gas you can
01:14:08
dissolve so it takes about 5 hours for it to dissipate from that um some people
01:14:13
use hydrogen H2 tablets um I just use this this hydrogen bottle and I take it
01:14:21
literally everywhere I go I notice when I don't have it how many of you started thinking about your long-term Health
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been been really sort of pertinent in culture at the moment is this subject of a zmek mhm you know since we spoke it's
01:15:31
got even more popular um and it's everywhere I looked yesterday at the company that make a zek and I believe if
01:15:37
my Apple stock app wasn't deceiving me the company's worth trillions now oh I'm
01:15:43
sure yeah zmek and so zic is is um a peptide called stide um it's glp1
01:15:50
inhibitor there's there's another one called tppa which actually did better in side bys side iCal trials than stide and
01:15:56
that's the wagi version um or the mjro version um seaglide I think is OIC and
01:16:03
wovi but these are great for for people that
01:16:09
have um that are typ two diabetics or that are morbidly obese and have issues with Cravings um that have that
01:16:18
have either diabetes or or or significant obesity I think that they'
01:16:24
become drugs for vanity and what people are realizing now is all of the issues with
01:16:30
castric emptying paralytic gut um the fact that when you start to paralytic
01:16:36
gut paralytic gut which is where you actually get paralysis in in the gut because one of the things that they slow
01:16:41
is gastric emptying and so if you slow the rate of gastric emptying very often contents can purify um in the gut and
01:16:50
it's not that I'm totally against these these peptides if you use these peptides you have have to be in a weight training
01:16:56
program so you have to be um doing resistance training because a third of
01:17:01
the weight that you lose as much is half of the weight that you lose in some in some of the studies is lean body mass so
01:17:08
if you're taking a seatide or tepati you want to make sure that you're also on a
01:17:14
i our clinical team would put you on a peptide a growth hormone peptide like
01:17:20
sorin hypom Morin to muscle protect and then also make sure that you're on a a a
01:17:25
good strength training regimen because just taking these you you don't get to spot remove fat and so what happens is
01:17:32
you start to aggressively mobilize and metabolize fat very often from the cheeks and from the face and people are
01:17:38
getting stide face or wovi face they're saying now where like their cheeks get really sunken in their eyes the fat pads
01:17:44
beneath their eyes um are metabolized their eyes start to look like they're sunken in so if you're morbidly obese or
01:17:51
or have a significant amount of weight to lose you struggle with Cravings you
01:17:56
have you're either severely pre-diabetic or you're diabetic I mean they can be lifechanging but for vanity purposes I I
01:18:04
don't I I think there are a lot better peptides and a lot better ways to do it what's your life like these days it's
01:18:11
amazing you know I I think I was telling you before I got on the show today that I feel like I live somebody else's life
01:18:19
I really do I I've I can't believe that I found something that I would otherwise
01:18:25
do for free and somehow monetized it and you must feel the same way you know when
01:18:30
you're when you're doing a podcast and you know your your message starts to resonate the calor of PE Cali of people
01:18:37
that it attracts I mean the rooms that you get to get in and for me I have a
01:18:44
insatiable level of intellectual curiosity like I'm super super curious
01:18:49
and the fact that I get to sit down with people like yourself but some of the greatest Minds um you know in in the in
01:18:55
the world that are studying longevity anti-aging biohacking um cancer
01:19:01
mortality um Sports Performance it's it's just I pinch myself I mean I really
01:19:08
do with our privilege comes our pain yeah what's the
01:19:15
pain um you need to be honest with me here because this is why we did started this podcast many years ago
01:19:21
um you know for me um the pain is that as
01:19:27
I've as I've become more popular I guess um and as the message is
01:19:34
resonated I've become a little more distant from the the folks that I
01:19:39
initially sought to serve and support I had a lot more individual reaction I
01:19:45
mean uh interaction in the beginning and now I just simply can't interact with a
01:19:52
number of people that would like me to that actually do need me and I've turned my attention to
01:20:00
trying to train and support the training of as
01:20:06
many qualified people as I can so we can really touch the masses
01:20:11
and I had no idea how much the message would resonate and it resonated in a way that
01:20:18
overpowered my company and you know one of the worst things is kind of collapsing under the
01:20:24
of your own success um and that didn't quite happen but you know the the
01:20:31
message began to resonate and there was so many people coming to take our tests and seek our services that really really
01:20:38
needed us and I felt the burden of of that need um we were for a period of
01:20:45
time unable to respond we were overwhelmed and that turned a vitrio in some cases um that's stabilized now but
01:20:52
um you know it's kind of the it's kind of be careful what you ask for um because
01:20:59
you might get it but by the same token I wouldn't I wouldn't change a thing I
01:21:04
feel like the most blessed person in the world what about the Family Impact because you got kids and and all that
01:21:10
you know that is the greatest blessing for me my my kids are landing at um LAX and
01:21:16
and within a few hours they're in the air right now um so I've got three children and the oldest two work for me
01:21:23
full-time and and my daughter just graduated from nursing school she's starting her PhD in nursing my son's
01:21:29
about 14 weeks behind her so they're both going for their their phds and nursing so they'll both have their
01:21:34
doctorate in nursing and that is the greatest blessing in life is
01:21:41
when your you see that your kids have a passion because I feel like you can
01:21:48
teach your kids anything but you can't give them a passion and the and the fact that they think enough about me and what
01:21:54
I'm doing to want to follow in my footsteps is that is
01:22:01
beyond anything I can't even put into words because I travel with my kids I I
01:22:07
see clients with my my my kids you my wife is also in in the business and I
01:22:13
think the pace of our life would be a lot more difficult if I didn't have my family around I saw Dr petera talking on
01:22:19
a podcast once and he I'm paraphrasing so I don't know if I'm getting it right but he said
01:22:25
you get 19 years with your kids the first 18 is from when they're
01:22:30
born to when they're 18 years old and then they're gone the last year is spread out over
01:22:38
the entirety of the rest of their lifetime and I thought how sad because I spend more time with my
01:22:45
kids now than I did almost since the day they were born and they're just becoming
01:22:51
these adults that really inspire me and so I think
01:22:56
that of all the blessings that God has given me that's the biggest one there are a couple other things that
01:23:03
I was really curious about um when I know I was going to speak to you today one of them was kind of what we were
01:23:08
talking about there with your family which is just like the role of community which you we're clearly in a bit of a loneliness
01:23:14
epidemic and I well um you know we knew in the in the life expectancy space um
01:23:20
and this is a material fact that if you wanted to cut somebody's life expectancy in half and any age put them in
01:23:27
isolation so if you put a human being in isolation you will cut their life expectancy in half how could you see
01:23:33
that in the data because you would there there was something we called a broken heart syndrome or caregiver syndrome um
01:23:40
and it's it's well documented in the elderly um you know when you have a
01:23:45
companion that you've been with for 40 or 50 or 60 years and that companion passes very shortly thereafter the
01:23:53
second companion goes and I always thought that was a myth like a nice tale of heartbreak and love
01:23:59
when we call it the broken heart syndrome was nothing to do with a broken heart but I mean the the emotional state
01:24:04
I mean the frequency in their body changes um and when this surrenders this
01:24:11
surrenders the mind and the body when the Mind surrenders the body surrenders and there's a lot of emerging body of
01:24:17
evidence to that's actually putting some science behind the the theory that emotions can make us sick and and I
01:24:23
think everyone believes that and that that stress can actually um lead to pathology and lead
01:24:30
to disease but um so you know that when we isolate human beings it's hard to
01:24:35
completely isolate them but we know when we isolate human beings that that it it has traumatic effect on life expectancy
01:24:41
some of the worst science that we and research that we do is when we study
01:24:47
components of the body or cells from the human body in isolation you take a cell out and you put it in a Petri dish and
01:24:52
you look how it behaves in vitro and then you assume when you put that cell back into the body that it's going to behave that way because cells exist in
01:24:59
communities too they exchange with their outside environment they eliminate waste they repair they detoxify they're
01:25:06
they're a very active Community um and so um you know the impact of community
01:25:13
has a meaning all the way down to a cellular level they do animal studies on this kind of thing right oh yeah no question on loneliness and Lon and and
01:25:22
and and isolation and it and it has a dramatic effect on life expectancy it's been a while since I've read an animal
01:25:28
study but we knew that isolation had a dramatic effect on
01:25:34
mortality so if when when a loved one got moved into an assisted Care Living
01:25:40
facility or we looked at the proximity of family members to a mother or a
01:25:46
father that had just lost a grandmother or grandfather that had just lost one or the other spouse um and you knew that
01:25:54
the family wasn't going to visit frequently and then now that person was in isolation um and when I mean
01:26:00
isolation not completely isolated but they were isolated from daily activity that had dramatic effect on life
01:26:06
expectancy it was it was a comorbidity factor that we used and mainly in the
01:26:12
elderly but it would happen in younger ages as well so I I think that Community
01:26:17
is increasingly important for me you know I remember when I sold my company
01:26:22
my my partner Grant card owned time told me he said your sphere is about to get a lot smaller and I was like that doesn't
01:26:29
make sense um my sphere is about to get a lot larger and it was true what he
01:26:34
said was very true you know my I spend the majority of my time with my kids um
01:26:42
they're working for me full-time we travel together we see clients together um we're in the hunt together um they're
01:26:49
big supporters of the business they caught the bug they're in school together you know my youngest still still lives with with me so my my circle
01:26:56
has gotten so much smaller even though you see me out there with like Dana whites and you know and in celebrities
01:27:04
and athletes and those are those are the flashball moments but in my day-to-day and week to week and month to month I
01:27:11
I'm I'm intensely surrounded by my family and a very small team that I have a high level of trust in that is really
01:27:18
helping me continue to be in service you know to to the clients that I'm working with what about retirement then in
01:27:25
purpose and the role that plays in our longevity it's been a while since I I used to have the vbt the variable basic
01:27:31
table memorized but there is a probabilistic factor um um for
01:27:37
retirement and communal interaction and um I forget exactly what that the level
01:27:44
of impact was but we had we had a probabilistic model where we would use this demographic data um but there is no
01:27:50
question that mortality accelerates postretirement I don't know that I've
01:27:56
delved enough into the science to really accurately comment on it but it must have something to do with the loss of the sense of purpose when you look at
01:28:02
Blue zones and and centenarians you know one of the one of the key themes even
01:28:08
beyond the diet because you know the diets were very different you know Singapore has one of the longest life
01:28:14
expectancies on Earth to eat the highest amount of meat Sardinia has very long life expectancies they eat they eat high
01:28:20
amounts of bread pasta and flour um you know the Mediterranean Blue zones eat
01:28:26
high amounts of of oils fish and fats but what was a common theme between all
01:28:31
of them was Mobility into older ages and a sense of purpose and there was no such
01:28:37
thing as assisted care living facilities where assisted care was when Grandma and Grandpa moved back in with their kids
01:28:44
and live with the kids until the day that they died and maybe her purpose was just to get vegetables that night for
01:28:49
for dinner um and Grandpa's purpose was maybe to continue to make belts for the leather Smith down the road but they
01:28:55
they had a sense of purpose when you think back to your your job in life insurance and the the role that you had
01:29:01
is there any parts of it that you look back on now and you think about the industry that are unethical because you
01:29:07
can't reach out because of Law and privacy to these people as you've said that would be a violation of a variety
01:29:13
of different sort of policies and stuff but is there anything else it within the the practice of it that you find
01:29:19
unethical just the fact that you know I wasn't allowed to have any cont with the
01:29:25
patient or the training physician and I understand for good reason because most of the people that are doing this work are not licensed to practice medicine
01:29:31
they don't want them jumping into the practice of medicine um but when you notice things that are obvious and that
01:29:37
maybe you know that a doctor would have appreciated that phone call oh my gosh I didn't know that she was on that other
01:29:43
script thank you for calling me I mean it wasn't to smch them or or or take over their
01:29:48
practice of medicine but I really wish that database
01:29:54
would see the light of day the databases that are used in predicting mortality in
01:29:59
my opinion could change the face of humanity I know why they won't because it would upend modern medicine in a way
01:30:06
in my opinion that would be catastrophic destroy their business as well wouldn't it because they need people to die really they do because they don't want
01:30:13
to be paying out well the you know annuities um need people to die life
01:30:20
insurance wants people to to live a little bit longer okay oh yeah cuz the longer they live the more they pay the
01:30:26
longer they live the more they pay but annuities one but annuities you've put down a deposit basically so they want
01:30:31
that deposit guarantee me an income stream for Life W so if you could kindly expire tomorrow that would be good for
01:30:37
me and the same companies do both same companies do both okay um there's something called a life insurance life
01:30:43
annuity contract a lilac where you actually put an annuity and a life insurance policy on the same life and
01:30:48
you can't lose as you know we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest not knowing who they're going
01:30:54
to be leaving it for the question that has been left for you is this one oh
01:30:59
wish I knew who your last guest was okay so they said they're quoting
01:31:06
someone and it says galini said be the change that you want to see in the
01:31:15
world what is the change you want to
01:31:21
see it looks like go
01:31:26
you try to read this Gandhi Gandhi said be the change you want to see in the world what is the change you want to see
01:31:33
and how will you be it wow well I want to
01:31:40
see people live healthier happier longer lives more fulfilling lives and I will
01:31:47
be that by continuing to get the message out and that's why I'm here and that's
01:31:52
when I wake up and new day and I can't hold a candle to Gandhi um but I will spend the balance
01:31:59
of my adult lifetime continuing to get the message out Gary thank you so much
01:32:05
um having getting to know you on and off camera you're such a a genuine true
01:32:10
lovely human thank you and your intent and your intentions are so clear to me and so pure so you know I I've had loads
01:32:16
of people reach out to me since our last conversation and speak to the value that your advice has had on their lives
01:32:22
thousands and thousands of people I mean makes me I mean I looked at the last conversation I looked at my emails
01:32:27
around that time I searched your name and when I say thousands I mean thousands and thousands of people that are reporting to have better lives
01:32:33
happier lives because they listen to that conversation so so awesome they probably won't be able to reach you so on behalf of those people I wanted to
01:32:40
say thank you so much for doing what you do because it's very important man it's not always easy yeah but you know it's
01:32:45
an occupational hazard yeah it is putting yourself out there in the world as I would know so thank you so much car
01:32:50
I appreciate your time super welcome oh [Music]
