"Truth: We Are Very Bad At Anticipating What We Want" | Jonathan Clements - E82
- Jun 4, 2024
- 47:08
- Full Episode
Jesse begins today's episode with a short monologue on the highs and lows of money. Can money buy happiness? Or are they uncorrelated? Either way, money can certainly buy flexibility and optionality. Jesse collects insights from Thom Yorke, Matthew Killingsworth, Danny Kahneman, and Angus Deaton.
Today's guest is Jonathan Clements, the founder and editor of Humble Dollar, the author of My Money Journey and How to Think About Money. Clements spent nearly 20 years at the Wall Street Journal as their lead personal finance columnist. He shares why we need financial goals that fulfill us, why he plans to continue working, and how we can plan financially for retirement, but why that shouldn't be the end goal of our financial journey.
If you're interested in long-term financial planning that will set yourself up for success, then this is the episode for you!
Key Takeaways:
• How to strike the balance between spending and saving.
• Why you can never know what you'll really want in the future.
• We need personal fulfillment goals, not just financial goals.
• Jonathan's retirement plan is ICE over FIRE.
• How to invest not only for retirement, but also for your heirs' inheritance.
Key Timestamps:
(01:54) Jesse's monologue: Can money buy happiness?
(09:15) Introduction to Jonathan Clements
(10:30) My Money Journey
(12:40) Switching from saver to spender
(15:50) We can't predict the future
(21:43) 8 traits successful people have in common
(24:25) ICE: I'll Continue Earning
(28:46) Annuities and Social Security
(36:29) Setting the next generation up for success
(44:40) Close
Key Topics Discussed:
The Best Interest, Jesse Cramer, Rochester New York financial planning, immediate fixed annuities, lifetime income annuities, equity and indexed annuities, Roth IRA, Social Security, retirement wealth planning
Mentions:
Website: https://humbledollar.com/
Jesse's Radiohead article: https://humbledollar.com/2024/05/happy-conclusion/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanclements/
How to Think About Money: https://amzn.to/3yHtlth
My Money Journey: How 30 people found financial freedom - and you can too: https://amzn.to/3Kw91NO
More of The Best Interest:
Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog (https://bestinterest.blog/)
Contact me at [email protected]
The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Brief Summary
Jesse Kramer and Jonathan Clemens discuss money, happiness, and personal finance strategies in this insightful episode.
Key points
- The Best Interest Podcast Introduction. Welcome to the Best Interest podcast, where we explore personal finance and investing in simple terms.
- Money and Happiness. Exploring the relationship between income and emotional well-being, revealing surprising insights.
- Reflections on Retirement. Jonathan Clemens discusses the challenges of transitioning from saving to spending in retirement.
- Retirement and Purpose. Many believe retirement means relaxation, but is that truly fulfilling?
- The Importance of Enough. Setting financial goals is crucial to avoid the trap of always wanting more.
- Understanding Annuities. Annuities can be misunderstood; immediate fixed annuities offer a reliable income stream.
Episode highlights
- Money and HappinessExploring the relationship between income and emotional well-being, revealing surprising insights.“Money buys life satisfaction but not happiness.”4:24Jun 4, 2024
- Reflections on RetirementJonathan Clemens discusses the challenges of transitioning from saving to spending in retirement.“Doing nothing is really pretty boring.”18:05Jun 4, 2024
- Retirement and PurposeMany believe retirement means relaxation, but is that truly fulfilling?“Is that really what I want to do?”20:11Jun 4, 2024
- The Importance of EnoughSetting financial goals is crucial to avoid the trap of always wanting more.“If you keep moving the goalpost, you will never be satisfied.”23:18Jun 4, 2024
- Understanding AnnuitiesAnnuities can be misunderstood; immediate fixed annuities offer a reliable income stream.“Annuities are a dirty word and it deserves to be a dirty word.”33:30Jun 4, 2024
- Gifting Money to ChildrenGifting money can provide immediate financial security for children rather than waiting.“I’m starting to make financial gifts to them within the gift tax limit.”39:58Jun 4, 2024
- The Importance of Financial ConversationsOngoing discussions about money with family are crucial for financial literacy.“Kids are not stupid; they learn from what you do, not just what you say.”41:26Jun 4, 2024
- Open Conversations About WealthTransparency about finances can ease the burden of estate planning for families.“I’m totally open about it and think everyone should be.”43:22Jun 4, 2024





