Will Gavin Newsom’s Trump Trolling Deliver Real Results? | Pivot
Episode Description
As Scott-Free August sails on, Kara is joined by @CNN's Abby Phillip. Kara and Abby discuss Zelensky returning to the White House alongside European leaders, and whether a peace agreement will be hammered out. Then, Gov. Gavin Newsom has turned trolling Trump into an art form, but will that actually help Democrats? Plus, GOP governors send National Guard troops to D.C., the Trump administration floats a new ranking system for companies, and Costco says no to selling abortion pills.
Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 20:48 Zelensky Returns to The White House 27:33 Melania’s Letter to Putin 29:06 Trump Gets Support for DC Takeover 35:58 Gavin Newsom’s Trolling 46:15 Trump Admin’s Company Rankings 51:42 Wins and Fails
Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver
Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat
Video Editor: Jim Mackil
Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa
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Brief Summary
Abby Phillip discusses Jillian Michaels' controversial comments, her book on Jesse Jackson, and the current political landscape in this episode of Pivot.
Key points
- Jillian Michaels Controversy. A shocking exchange on national television about slavery and race.
- Jesse Jackson's Legacy. Exploring the complex legacy of Jesse Jackson and his impact on politics.
- Melania Trump's Peace Letter to Putin. Melania Trump delivered a peace letter to Putin, urging him to protect children affected by the war.
- Gavin Newsom's Social Media Strategy. California Governor Gavin Newsom uses social media to mock Trump and respond to redistricting plans.
- Corporate Loyalty to Trump. A discussion on how corporations navigate loyalty to the Trump administration and its implications.
- Steve Wozniak's Philanthropy. Steve Wozniak shares his philosophy on wealth and giving back, emphasizing happiness over riches.
Ask about Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway
Episode highlights
- Jillian Michaels ControversyA shocking exchange on national television about slavery and race.“It was unexpected to be frank because we were not really in a discussion about that.”2:28Aug 19, 2025
- Jesse Jackson's LegacyExploring the complex legacy of Jesse Jackson and his impact on politics.“He was a black man who grew up in the segregated South.”14:58Aug 19, 2025
- Melania Trump's Peace Letter to PutinMelania Trump delivered a peace letter to Putin, urging him to protect children affected by the war.“It's about the children that Russia has taken from Ukraine.”27:43Aug 19, 2025
- Gavin Newsom's Social Media StrategyCalifornia Governor Gavin Newsom uses social media to mock Trump and respond to redistricting plans.“Donald Trump the lowest polling president in recent history.”36:30Aug 19, 2025
- Corporate Loyalty to TrumpA discussion on how corporations navigate loyalty to the Trump administration and its implications.“If you think that there is not a thing that they're willing to do, you are wrong.”49:24Aug 19, 2025
- Steve Wozniak's PhilanthropySteve Wozniak shares his philosophy on wealth and giving back, emphasizing happiness over riches.“I gave all my Apple wealth away because wealth and power are not what I live for.”52:11Aug 19, 2025
- Emerging Fascism in AmericaJason Stanley discusses the rise of a simplistic form of fascism in the U.S.“It's a kind of paint by numbers fascist dictatorship that is emerging.”1:00:05Aug 19, 2025





