Elon’s Ketamine Denial Hits New High | Pivot

Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway

  • Jun 3, 2025
  • 57:51
  • Full Episode

Kara and Scott discuss Senator Joni Ernst's callous comments about Medicaid cuts, Texas's new law requiring app stores to verify ages, and Taylor Swift's blockbuster deal to get the rights to her masters. Then, Elon leaves The White House with a literal black eye, and denies a New York Times report about his ketamine use. Plus, Trump raises tariffs yet again, and lashes out at China.

Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 6:09 Sen. Ernst: “We All Are Going to Die” 14:41 Texas Age Verification Bill 21:29 Taylor Swift Regains Ownership of Masters 24:55 Elon Denies Drug Use 33:55 Trump Axes Elon Ally for NASA Admin 38:26 Trump Doubles Steel and Aluminum Tariffs 43:48 Trump Lashes Out at China 48:19 Wins and Fails

Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Corinne Ruff

Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat

Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa

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Brief Summary

Elon Musk's drug use and Taylor Swift's music ownership are discussed alongside political commentary on Medicaid and tariffs.

Key points

  • Lost Laptops and Their Secrets. Scott shares his habit of leaving laptops on planes and the contents they might hold.
  • Senator Joanie Ernst's Controversial Comment. Senator Ernst's remark about death at a town hall sparks outrage and discussion.
  • The Gender Divide in America. A discussion on how social media has influenced perceptions between genders.
  • Age Verification Legislation. Debate on the necessity of age verification for app users and its implications.
  • Taylor Swift Regains Master Recordings. Taylor Swift has regained ownership of her master recordings after a long battle.
  • Elon Musk's Alleged Drug Use. Elon Musk responds to claims about his drug use, including ketamine and ecstasy.

Episode highlights

Tension

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