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I never let money get in the way of a good time. I'm spending money like a 50s
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gangster just diagnosed with ass cancer. >> Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York
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Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Cara Swisser >> and I'm Scott Galloway
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>> and Scott. This is our end of the year listener mail episode. We're probably
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both elsewhere doing fun things, but are you ready to hear some emails and voicemails from our lovely listeners,
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who by the way, we have a full new appreciation for after meeting so many of them on our Pivot Live tour. I really
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enjoyed that. Are you ready? >> Yeah, ready. >> Okay, Scott, let's kick off with a
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question about taxing AI. Let's listen. >> Hi, this is Lynn. Um, I've been
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wondering as artificial intelligence continues to replace human jobs, do you think we'll ever see attacks on AI
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itself or on the companies that use it as a way to offset its impact on displaced workers? And would that in a
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sense become a new way of taxing the rich? Thank you. Bye. >> Gosh, Lynn, what a great question.
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Actually, I'm going to start. You know, many years ago, Bill Gates sort of set
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off a kurfuffle when he talked about taxing robots if they become workers um the same way because you aren't going to
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get those money that you get from human workers and so they should be taxed in the same way. I hadn't really thought
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about it about AI. Uh Scott, I I'm I think I'm I think you're more qualified
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to answer this. >> I don't know if that's true. Uh my view around taxation is that the moment you
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start taxing specific industries, you weaponize special interest groups to come to their defense and you also
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create some confusion around like is Oracle AI, you know, if if McKen I mean at what point what qualifies as an AI
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company and not an AI company? Is Microsoft an AI company? What what I'm a big fan of and I think that the the the
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caller is alluding to I want to go back to Reagan era taxation and that is there's no difference between I think
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the capital gains tax deduction is nothing but a transfer of wealth from young to old because somehow we've
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decided that sweat is less noble than money and that is the money I make on money gets taxed at a lower rate than
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the money that young people make on sweat. So I would like to see an elim elimination of the capital gains tax
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deduction and raise those rates to current income and restore a progressive tax structure. In my view, you do it
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across all income and all firms because I think the moment you start getting into this notion of let's put a super
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tax on this type of firm. I think that's I think you regulate them. I think you
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have an EPA, you have an AI act, you have privacy, you have laws, but in terms of taxation, I just think you say,
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look, above a certain level of profitability, when you sell a stock, you pay this much in tax. I think taxes
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need to go up. I think we need to do away. We need to raise long-term capital gains from 21 to 37%. It makes no sense
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that I'm paying lower taxes than people actually working for a living. But I
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think you apply it to every company because a lot of a lot of for example the AI boom is going to make a lot of
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people in the construction industry very very rich. >> It is that's one people group of people
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that are benefiting. Yeah. >> Tax them. Would you tax them? Right. Would you tax
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>> my out of there's so many loopholes right now. The only way we get there is
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with an AMT. There should be an AMT. Anything above $10 million and anything above three million you pay a federal
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AMT >> of 40%. >> Yep. Because what happens is guys like me weaponize the tax code and do 122 and
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buy assets and we end up paying high teens in tax rates. Yeah. >> So the stated the stated we focus too
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much on tax rates not on the tax code and enough already. There is no reason why someone working for money should be
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taxed at a higher rate than someone who is making money from investments. >> Although I don't see any wrong with
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taxing robots if they're workers. I don't know. I don't >> It's an interesting one.
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>> Yeah. I just I when he said it and I thought, "Oh, Bill Gates." And I
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thought, "Oh, actually he's really smart. I forgot. Anyway, it's an
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interesting question. We have to deal with all these things and what happens with displaced workers and how we're
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going to pay for that or get them different jobs. So, there's going to be a lot of rethinking of all the way the
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workplace is taxed, how it's conducted, what people get paid. Um, and obviously
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the damage that some of this AI is going to do. There's going to have to be some
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mitigation. Uh, okay, Scott, next question. This one is a tough one. Let's listen.
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>> Hey, Scott and Cara. I'm Liam, a high school senior from New York, and I want
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to ask the following. America certainly has its fair share of economic and social problems, but a lot of the time
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these problems stem from the same root causes. Too often though, our politicians create costly band-aid
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solutions rather than trying to address the underlying issues. So my question to
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you guys is, if you could implement one single policy to try and solve the most problems at once, what would it be?
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Thanks for taking the time to answer. >> Wow, that's a great question. I hate
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that with just one thing. If I had to pick $25 minimum wage. >> I like that.
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>> Let me explain very quickly because I think it it lists all votes. If people
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get paid more, they'll spend more. It creates a better economy. I know there's
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initial costs for businesses that have these things, but it creates an people that can do a living wage. They spend
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money. They want to do things. They lean into the future. I just it it would be great. The second one would be 8 million
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houses, more housing. But go ahead. once a program, one is structural or legislative. Um, I do think a lot of
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this reverse engineers to in terms of inability to get things done to Citizens United. If I could overturn Citizens
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United, I would I think a lot of our problems stem from the weaponization of Washington by corporate interest and
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corporate money. >> Oh, wow. >> Um, and then >> Wow, Bernie Sanders, I like that answer.
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>> Well, I mean, it's just true. There's more there's more full-time lobbyists
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living in DC working for Amazon than there are sitting US senators. So, what do you know? Anyway, uh but you know, a
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close second, mandatory national service, universal child care, lower Medicare eligibility by two years a year
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for 10 years until threequarters of America has essentially socialized medicine. You know, I could go on and
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on. >> Yeah, I love it. I love that answer. I was not expecting it. Boy, that came out
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wants to know what we're doing with our money. Let's listen. >> Hi, Scott and Kira. It's Eric from
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Brooklyn. Scott, you talk a lot about how you spend, how you invest, and I imagine how you save. Carrie, you don't
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and you come off as maybe a bit more frugal. Can you share a little bit about your investment in spending and saving
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philosophy in the context of your shared success? Um, thank you so much and uh hope we'll see you soon.
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>> Gosh, thanks Eric. A little personal. Um, uh, I am not I don't think about
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money a lot. That's my problem. I'm not interested in it and I make a lot of
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money. I do. Um, for especially for a journalist, I'm like I'm like Daddy
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Warbucks, a journalist in that regard. But I would say I save a lot. I have a lot of savings and I diversify. I'm sort
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of your basic person, uh, basic [ __ ] of investing. I have bonds. I've got quite
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a bit of real estate that I hold on to. This force savings as Scott calls it. Um, I, um, I don't spend a lot of money.
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I really don't. It's, it has nothing to do with me being frugal. I just don't
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I'm don't like buying a lot of stuff. I'm wearing the same All my clothes I've
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had for 20. I don't buy a lot of clothes. I don't buy drugs. I don't buy
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I don't go out a lot. Um I'm really boring. >> Don't buy drugs. Where did that come
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from? >> Well, no one here buys drugs. Maybe you I don't buy like I don't drink. I don't
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party. I I'm trying to think like what costs money. I have a Chevy Bolt like
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and a Kia. So, I don't really care about cars. >> You're the primary bread winner in a
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family of four people. >> Yeah. >> I mean, that in itself is >> Y
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>> Mommy's got to make real money. >> Mommy's got to make real money. And so,
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that's spent on the kids. I definitely get them through college and but I did
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those savings plans for college for for my boys and I'm doing them for my little
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kids. That worked out really well actually. I didn't have to think about it. Um and I did that 20 years ago for
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my older kids. Um I think I um what I do spend on I have way too much cash compared to what I need. But I like to
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have it. I'm one of those sort of people. I do spend money on a couple of things. Um I always will upgrade. I mean
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I always get first class. I fly well. you know, I don't have a private plane,
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but I I would love to have one, but um I'm sorry to say that people who love
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the same energy are going to think they're wonderful. Um and I I will upgrade all the time, like upgrade
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hotels and things like that. So, I I've gotten I got old very early and then I'm
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like I didn't want to be in bad food. I didn't want to stay in bad places. I
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suppose if I spend on anything a lot, it's vacations. I really I I do, but I'm
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still more frugal than Scott. Scott is really I really admire Scott's vacation
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spending. Um I don't know Scott, what do you think? >> Well, you know, I think a lot about
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this. One of my addictions is money and that is I continue to be too focused on it to the detriment of my mental health
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and it takes time away from my family. I grew up with a scarcity of money until,
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you know, I got through my senior college on Top Ramen and bananas. That's not an exaggeration.
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I was in student debt. Um, you know, even at the age of 27, I was traum not traumatized, but I had a difficult time
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paying for my mother's um, uh, healthc care. So, I've been very focused on
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money and got very lucky. And that's not a humble brag. I think I'm a monster. I
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think I'm talented and hardworking, but I did get lucky. And now I am, by most
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people's standards, wealthy. Uh, my approach to spending money is that we don't own money, we rent it. And I also,
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you collide that with my atheism. You know, I believe that this is all coming to an end pretty quickly for me. So, I
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spend a great deal of money. I spend between $3 and $400,000 a month. Uh, I own homes all over the world. I uh have
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a plane and I spend most of my money on homes and experiences and >> not gifts for Cara, just
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>> but along those lines. The way I try and keep in check is I think hoarding money
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is a virus. When I hit my number eight years ago, I decided anything above that number I would give away. And what I do
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each year is I look at my total spending and I match it and I give that amount of
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money away and it keeps my my net worth has not increased in eight years. >> Yeah.
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>> And uh because I think hoarding wealth is a virus. There is no reason anybody
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needs to be a billionaire. >> But there's no I can't stand it when
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wealthy people can't aren't good at spending money. I have an amazing time.
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>> Yeah. >> I do things for my friends and family to get us all together in the same place. I
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never let money get in the way of a good time. I'm spending money like a 50s
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gangster just diagnosed with ass cancer. >> And >> I think is a nicer way of putting that.
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Scott is very generous, let's just say, to employees. Scott's very generous.
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>> We don't own money. We rent it. And I'll give my kids some money, but there's no
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reason why my kids need to inherit tens of millions of dollars. So, >> I'm going to spend it all on people I
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love and experiences and take advantage of capitalist society. And I'm also going to give a [ __ ] ton of money away
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to make sure that the things that made me rich are still available for younger people. So, I love making money. I love
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spending it. I stopped making it 8 years ago and I anything above a certain level, I give away. In terms of my
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investments, I'm pretty well diversified. My quote unquote investment strategy is the following. I think
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income inequality, unfortunately, is only going to get worse. And what I find is that people worth over hund00 million
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are the most homogeneous, boring people in the world. And that is they all want to party in St. Barts. They all want to
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buy Hermes. They all want to send their kids to elite colleges. And they want to
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live in one of five areas. They want to live in Dubai, London, Palm Beach, New York, or Aspen. And I bought homes in
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all of those places except for Dubai. Big homes. And the way I I refurbish them. And what I tell my contractor and
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my decorator is pretend Jeff Bezos is going to buy this home cuz the world is going to produce thousands of
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billionaires over the next 20 years. And by the way, I think it's a terrible
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thing about our society. I will vote for people to try and reverse that. But the
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free gift with purchase is at these homes. I want to make it impossible for my boys to avoid me. And the
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conversation when they're say at UC San Diego or something, we can go to Tijana
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with our friends and eat lobsters or we can go to Aspen, but we have to have dinner with my dad. I'm hoping that
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they'll say, "Yeah, let's go hang out with dad." I spend a [ __ ] ton of money.
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I love it. I give it away. It's not It's not virtue. It's not ethics. It makes me
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feel strong. It makes me feel masculine. It makes me feel American. But I'm planning to not increase my net worth.
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There is no reason anybody needs to be a billionaire. It's not going to make you
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any happier. What's going to make you happier >> is doing amazing things with people you
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love and doing nice things for other people. And I spend to that and I very much enjoy it and money is something
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>> money is something I think a lot about because I didn't have a lot of it
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growing up. >> Yeah. >> Um it's still a very big issue in my life.
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>> Yeah. It's interesting because I grew up with a lot of money and so I guess I
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don't care. I I've always had money. You think about money less than almost
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anybody I know. >> I know you you get mad at me because I don't I don't I have enough. I had a
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also let me point out my mom was a spend thrift and it upset me and made me both
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my brothers and I are very hard workers and we don't spend a lot of money. All
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of us are very we like my brother built a beautiful house in Pennsylvania where he lives and it's beautiful and he
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didn't it's it's gorgeous and he loves it and so that's what he spends money on
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and I love that cuz I feel like it was money well spent cuz he enjoys it and it's quite beautiful. It's beautiful
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setting. So we always spend money on homes but not extremely like not like ridiculously. Um same thing with Jeff's
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has a beautiful home. I have beautiful home and >> you live well not opulently not at all.
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No people are surprised. Um, I had the luxury of not having to worry about money early in my life, but I there was
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a lot of my mom being such a spender. She was always out of cash and she always had to scrge for it from and
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trick people getting her dad to write her a check. And I found that grotesque. I did. I was like, I'm always going to
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have enough money. And I had money from a very early age cuz my dad died. There was an insurance thing. And I got a hold
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of it when I was 18. And I have not I didn't want my mom near it cuz she was
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she would she spent a lot of our money um that we got from my dad. And so I've
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had control of my money for years. So I I I just don't care about it enough. I
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just don't I just I I wish I did. Like I I I want my boys to work hard, my older
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boys to work hard, and I think they do. Both of them are really hard workers. And again, just like Scott, they're not
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going to get they're going to get the houses is what they're going to get,
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which is what which I love the house. So it's something like that. All right,
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Scott, let's get to a question about parenting. Let's listen. >> My name's Lisa. I'm the mother of a
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17-year-old boy and a 13-year-old girl. Two years ago, their father died unexpectedly.
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Cara, as someone who lost their father and also as someone who's raised children without a male partner. And
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Scott, as someone who's largely raised by a single mother, I'm looking for
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advice. Cara, what do you wish your mom did to keep your dad's memory alive?
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What did she do right or wrong? Scott, what did your mom do right to make you feel like one parent was enough? What do
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you wish you would have done if, for example, she had had more financial resources? Thank you both.
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>> Man, these are good questions. They're highly emotional. God Jesus,
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>> I don't think my mom did a very good job. I I hate to trash my mom this
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episode, but it's true. You know, she lost contact with my dad's uh parents,
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and I reestablished it when I was in college myself. uh when you're a kid, you're a little bit at cross purposes of
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loyalty and I I thought that was not good. She threw away a lot of pictures um which I recovered some of which I
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spent a lot of time finding stuff about my dad and I have right now have a big box of letters of his that I just read
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one that was wonderful. Uh um I I think she should have spent a lot more time talking about him and and I don't I
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don't think she remembers herself, but I don't think she was kind to his parents.
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Um so that was one thing is if your grandparents are good people, make sure your kids know them and know their
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relatives on your dad's side and they're his friends. I wish I knew more about my
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dad's friends. And I found out later when I wrote a piece in the Washington Post, I got inundated with friends of
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his that my mother never told me about that I then went and met and all these stories. It was a as I think I've said
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this for there was a gay couple who my dad was lovely to and I didn't know that. I I it was a wonderful thing to
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find out. Uh a young uh African-American woman he tutored wrote me for now she was a doctor and said she wanted to
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thank him. my an ex-girlfriend of his wrote me saying it should have been me uh that married him uh which was funny
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like there's a picture of him behind me. I have a lot of pictures of him around.
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One thing I'm sad is my kids won't know him. I name my and I also name my son
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after my dad. So that's what I would say. >> It's nice. Yeah. I mean there's just thinking about it um
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stirs emotion. So when I was 15 and in California, you were what you drove and or just having a car was everything. You
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had no social life in high school in LA. There was no public transportation unless you had a car. We didn't have a
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lot of money. My mom used to come home uh when I was 15 and a half and honk the horn and we go into a garage of this
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giant apartment complex and she would teach me how to drive stick on her 19 like 77 opal green, you know, lime green
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opal manta. Mhm. >> And then on my 16th birthday, when I passed my driver's test, she came home
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and she had bought this shitty Acura and she put her arms on my shoulders and put
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keys in my hand and said, "You're a handsome young man and you have a car."
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>> Oh, Scott, you're breaking my heart. >> You okay? >> Yeah, I'm good. The The best thing
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literally I think of any parent or mother Um, if you tell your kids every day they
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have value, they start to believe you. >> Yep. 100%. Scott, I bought you an Acura
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for your >> There you go. >> For Christmas. >> That's what I needed.
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>> Get you out of this. That is a beautiful story. I knew that. >> The good news is you become more
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thoughtful when I reverse engineer all my blessings to two core things. It's
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big government, assisted launch, Pell Grants, University of California, uh DARPA, the internet, uh and also just
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hands down, I think I've always had a base of confidence that that my mother
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gave me. >> Oh my gosh. >> The more the more pragmatic piece of advice is that
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unfortunately, if you were to reverse engineer a young man's problems to a single point of failure, it's when he
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loses a male role model. And you've had your husband has passed. I think it's
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especially important that you get men involved in your son's life. >> Uh Cara, you do a great job.
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>> I do. I didn't mention that. I have my brothers, both my brothers and friends,
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they have been critically part critical part of my boy's upbringing, my older
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boy's upbringing, and it'll be the same for Saul because he needs a lot of man
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around him. I agree. Go ahead. >> So, anyways, get Yeah. Get men involved in your son's life. What's weird is
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>> it's not as important for the girl. girls have similar outcomes of college
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attendance and self harm in single parent homes. It ends up that while boys are physically stronger,
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>> they're emotionally and neurologically much weaker than girls. >> So the the involvement of a male role
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model in your son's life is actually now >> I say I miss having my dad. I have to
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every day. One of the last things I would say is um there's a great book called The Loss That is Forever. I
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forget the author. I would recommend reading it. It's forever loss. So don't
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like pretend it's not like don't under don't underscore what the loss is. And I
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I think about my dad every day, every single day. And you should let them do that. And you should think and talk
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about him every day to them. I mean, I think that's critically important. >> All right, Scott, are you okay? Can we
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move on? >> I'm good. >> All right. It gets worse from here, I think.
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>> Yeah. When Scott dies, he'll be like, you know, you remember like at the end of um
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the Orson Wells movie, Rose Bud. It's gonna be Acura. >> Acura, Acura.
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>> Opal. >> Opal. >> Lime green opal. >> We have an Opal. I love an Opal, but the
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Opal. We also literally the lamest with Navajo print. It was so nice. >> I know. There's a reason I lost my
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virginity at 19. >> P. Well, try having a pacer with Navajo print. Okay. >> Pacer's kind of cool in a weird way,
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though. >> I know, but not then. Okay, Scott. One more quick break. We'll be back and
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If you had all the money in the world, these are such good questions. Let me read this. If you had all the money in
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the world, what would you be doing with your precious time at this moment with that money? And why aren't you doing
00:23:16
that? Oh my god, Paul. Wow, Paul, that's a lot. Scott, you go first on this one,
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and I'll I I got to think for a second. >> I'm doing it. I realize how privileged I
00:23:27
am and I realize this is, you know, a function of my being born a white male heterosexual and, you know, um, I do
00:23:35
exactly what money had plays. Money as a construct puts no constraints on my life. I am doing exactly what I want to
00:23:43
be doing every day. Every day I'm I'm blessed and I realize that there's
00:23:46
only.1% of the populace can do that. If I had billions of dollars and I'd started a private equity firm like
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>> well what I would be focused on right now if I had say hundreds of millions to
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waste I'm going to spend millions but I don't have tens or hundreds of millions.
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I'm very very focused on restoring some of the traditional American values and
00:24:08
getting Democrats elected in 26 and 28. >> That's what I do. >> Yeah. I would put a take a bunch of
00:24:13
money and solidify a progressive not it not not like hateful to conservatives but like American values that are about
00:24:22
fairness and equity and things like that. So I'd spend money on that. I would spend money on um I would I I' I'd
00:24:29
do the McKenzie B Scott. That's what I would be. That's what I I just suddenly
00:24:33
show up with money and not be heard from or seen from again. I would that's how I
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would do what she's doing exactly what she's doing and suddenly give Howard a
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whole bunch. She's did two gifts to Howard and she's all of a sudden she's
00:24:46
over at Planned Parenth she's so diverse in her giving um that I I love it and
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it's that's how I would behave. I would um I would also create um uh uh universal daycare. I mean that's what I
00:25:00
would do for people better child care uh for all kinds of parents. Uh I I would somehow figure out a way to fund like
00:25:08
right now New Mexico has it because they have all this oil and gas or shale uh money they can do it. Every state we
00:25:15
should have nationally we should have universal care. That's what I would do.
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I would spend less on health stuff but I couldn't see why. Um again money is I
00:25:24
don't spend a lot of money so I wouldn't buy anything. I wouldn't I'm trying
00:25:28
would I buy anything? Maybe like my own Taylor Swift concert perhaps. That's
00:25:32
what I would do. Anything crazy would buy. I I might buy invite Scott hurt him hurt his ears.
00:25:39
>> You'd be so nice to Taylor Swift. Anyway, something like that. Something
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on something very special. A few weeks ago, I asked what tattoo I should get for Scott. ideally on my ass. Let me
00:27:04
read some of the answers we got. A roll of toilet paper with an S on one of the sheets. The Professor Galloway memorial
00:27:10
tattoo should feature an angry but dignified daisy duck with a lot of pink shading. Interesting. A penis that
00:27:16
cleverly embeds his name on it. Essie on one cheek and TT. >> Get the O is the [ __ ] Get it. Get
00:27:27
it. Okay. Uh, Groucho nose and glasses was Scott's nose and glasses. I don't
00:27:32
like any of these. I do like the SCT, I'd say. Uh, I need more. Scott, do you
00:27:38
have any suggestions? >> Uh, I would get some I would just in case of emergency, call Scott.
00:27:45
>> Oh my god. Break glass >> or maybe a tiny raccoon holding a beer.
00:27:50
>> Oh, I think that's good is what I should get. Just the word. >> Um, a barcode. a barcode that if you
00:27:58
scan it, it said the problem with Scott is >> um you better. >> Yeah.
00:28:06
>> Let me see. Uh I don't know. >> I would How about a cat and a dog sort
00:28:11
of fighting but hugging at the same time? >> Something like that. >> You know, tattoo of a receipt. Total
00:28:17
0000 item putting up with >> Cara. Broken halo with the caption Scott tried.
00:28:28
>> Acura >> uh a fortune cook a fortune cookie and the fortune reads you will tolerate
00:28:33
someone named Scott today. >> How about one that just says at least he's not Scott Jennings.
00:28:39
>> That's right. That's right. No, I think there's a lot we could do. I could go
00:28:44
on. I'm fine. >> I may get a Scott tattoo. I may just do it as a surprise. I think I might maybe
00:28:50
I'll get make fake ones made and then trick Scott in some fashion. We have we
00:28:55
have tattoos of us >> tombstone that says rest in peace Scott's sanity taken by Cara.
00:29:01
>> These are your tattoos. We have tattoos that we made when we did that conference. The one we didn't make money
00:29:07
at. This one we did. >> Oh yeah. In the middle of co >> Yeah, we we have tattoos. I'm going to
00:29:12
find those. There are Scott and Cara tattoos. They were good, actually. Huh. All right, everybody. You got to try
00:29:18
harder. Come on. Come on. Send more. >> Okay, Scott, that's the show. >> It's time to say goodbye. Thank you
00:29:26
listeners. And again, I truly and so does Scott appreciate uh you and we were very touched uh by all your questions on
00:29:32
the tour and we're touched by these questions too and we truly appreciate it
00:29:36
because we love our fans. So Scott, read us out. >> Today's show was produced by Lauren and
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