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Stock Market Sell-Off: Why Disruption is a Good Thing | Pivot

August 06, 2024 / 10:32

This episode discusses the recent global stock market decline, focusing on the US recession fears, disappointing tech earnings, and specific company performances.

Scott Galloway and his co-host analyze the impact of a weaker than expected US jobs report, which contributed to a significant drop in stock prices. The Dow, S&P, and NASDAQ all experienced notable declines, with the Japanese market seeing its largest fall since 1987.

They highlight Amazon's recent struggles, including a 13% drop in stock value after missing revenue expectations, and Intel's announcement of workforce cuts, marking its worst trading day in 40 years.

The conversation touches on the implications of these market changes for younger investors, emphasizing the need for a healthy market cycle and the potential benefits of market downturns for those in the investment phase of their lives.

Scott argues against the panic surrounding the market decline, suggesting that allowing markets to correct themselves is essential for future generations to invest wisely.

TLDR

Global stock markets are falling due to recession fears and disappointing tech earnings, impacting younger investors' perspectives on market cycles.

Episode

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stocks worldwide are tumbling as investors worry that the US is headed into recession a weaker than expected us
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jobs report caused the Panic that seems odd um at the time of the taping the Dow
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was down 4.3% in the last 5 days the S&P down 4.8% and NASDAQ down 6.5% outside of the US big plunge the Nay uh in Japan
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dropped 12.4% overnight as big as fall since 1987 that's a long time in Europe the
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stocks 600 index is down 2.5% that's not so bad so what was happening here Scott
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you were just saying you know there was uncertainty with tech earnings because they're a little disappointing although
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they've been going like Gang Busters I guess they stopped gang bustering um we can just so people aware at the time the
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taping Amazon stock is down 133% in the last five days after missing expectations on revenues and sales also
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to blame Amazon says it plans to continue spending big in AI at the expense of short-term profit this is
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everybody Apple beat expectations for net sales and income but Revenue in the China region decline China is seeing a
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real problem with consumer spending as the company faces local competition and bans on governmental use also Intel had
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the worst trading day in 40 years announcing it would be cutting 15% of its Workforce and suspending dividend
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Pavements as part of a restructuring plan that uh uh guy who's running against or is having a real um I think
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that's his name um is having a real uh issue catching up in AI um tech stocks have overall seen their steepest
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three-week slump in two years but they were getting a lot of profit taken in that regard um I don't know th Scott big
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thoughts again I think this is a little bit you know CNBC or whoever it is or the Dow or name your digital media
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company wants to get as many clicks as possible as we stand here the Dow is down uh it's down
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1.9% and it's plummeted to levels not seen since July I mean this is not it's not that big a deal there there's says
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calm down but go ahead go well it it it's just true it's out a historic run I think this is I think this is a bigger
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deal in Asia they're worried about uh U what's interesting ponage Gat again another one of my colleagues uh at NYU
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always talks about trade is much more Regional than people think our biggest trading partner is Mexico I think our
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third after China is Canada basically comp countries almost always have their biggest trading partners based on
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proximity and when China is going in when the second largest economy is going into a Slowdown it's just going to
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impact the entire region the weird the if you look at the data un has ticked up the jobs report new jobs report was
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disappointing so the market seems to believe that we may be going into recession the other thing quite frankly
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is just stocks are um were expecting a rate cut and there's a fear that the rate cut has not come soon enough and uh
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the the expectation of a rate cut had been built into stocks but if you look at what's really gone on here it's just
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not it's more it's more spectacle than significant when you drill down on some individual stocks what I think you find
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is is just some incredibly um interesting stor so for example Intel I mean just to give you
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one stat Intel is now Worth or okay let me put this another way Nvidia is worth 20 times what Intel is worth right now
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Intel in the last 5 years has lost half its market cap I mean this is a company when I was in graduating from business
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school in 1992 the two premier jobs that everyone wanted to go uh yet companies were Intel and Dell which is get kind of
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marks the age and apple was a shitty company that might not come back it had kind of lost the script and everyone
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said it was underpowered and overpriced but everyone wanted to go to the best company in terms of reputation for
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growing management and had just kept killing it in terms of the stock price was Intel yep remember and and another
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thing these these CEOs need to stop tweeting the CEO Pat Uh Ginger posted a quote from the Bible on Twitter open
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quote let your eyes look straight ahead fix your gaze directly before you give careful thought to the paths for your
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feet and be steadfast in all your ways Proverbs 42526 here's another proverb Pat what
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the [ __ ] are you going to do to save shareholder value here uh said said the Jesus of all markets inquiring to CEOs
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who are doing stupid [ __ ] like putting Proverbs out on anyways I would agree I
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was just thinking this Jamie Diamond did another U I was like sit down Jamie Diamond just run your bank stop
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pontificating at us in your arrogant fashion but anyway go ahead sorry well there's a there's a difference
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between no serious his opinion was called the next president must restore our faith in America we got plenty of
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Faith Jamie Jesus sorry must restore our faith in America that's the thing we live in the first line is we live in a
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perilous time but go ahead wouldn't that be nice yeah okay fair that's hard to disagree with but what there's a huge I
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think opportunity for Tech CEOs not even techos CEOs to have very well orchestrated working with ir working
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with good production people to put out earnings releases or statements about their earnings out on YouTube I think
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it's powerful I think it's a means of meeting retail investors and it's signals Innovation but I'm almost at the
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point now where CEOs part of being a CEO is the follow a few of the following things one you don't talk about religion
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or politics you just give that up because no one because you're just going to alienate 50% of whoever right and
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we're not really interested in knowing about your views on Christianity or the president or or whatever it might be two
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you are not allowed to ever have sex with anyone at this organization doesn't matter if you fall in love doesn't
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matter if you're divorced doesn't matter if you've known each other when you're the CEO on a risk adjusted basis it
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means you make tens of millions of dollars which makes you sexy anywhere in the world take it off campus and then
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three I would have no social media from you it's just not worth it it's just not
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on a risk adjusted basis sure some people are good at it Tory bur was really good at it some CEOs are very You
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could argue Elon Musk has built a huge following on Twitter but the world does not need to know what the CEO of Intel
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is thinking at that moment it's just not a good idea right yeah well I agree with
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you I was I literally am so tired of reading like all of them like stop talking the you know and actually those
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that are causing danger like El SP tweeting these riots that are happening in Britain of this sad killing full of
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misinformation has caused all kinds of right-wingers to come out and attack Muslims and he was encouraging it it was
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oh just get sit down and do your jobs that's my so you feel okay about this Global selloff everyone's all like
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should fed's going to do an emergency cut that's what they think I I've well see I hate that because I mean a couple
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things one look panicky looks panicky right doesn't it okay but but my generation has convinced Louie and
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Alex's generation and the generation of people who mostly work with me the average age of Prof G or I would say the
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median is 26 the average is probably 32 because me and my me me and Katherine who run the company are both really
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[ __ ] old but the median the number of almost 12 of our 14 employees are under the age of 30 and what my generation has
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managed to do is convince them of a myth and that is that market highs and strong
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markets are a good thing and that it's worth mortgaging their f future in the form of debt and artificially suppressed
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interest rates to keep the markets high and they're not the markets touching all-time Highs are good for Caris
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swisser and Scott Galloway who already own real estate and already already own stocks because there's two phases in
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your life there's the investment phase where hopefully you've established professional currency you are spending
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less than you're making and you are investing that money there's the harvesting phase to a certain extent you
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and I are still making good money but we're kind of harvesting we're slowing down we have nice Lifestyles we want to
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give money away we want to take care of our kids we want to do nice things right
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we want to start spending money you want the Harve the Harvesters my generation wants markets at all-time Highs but what
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the youth don't recognize or that we've tried to evangelize this total [ __ ] myth is that they should have Market
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highs no when you're investing you want the markets to crash the reason I am wealthy I'm talented I've started
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companies I but but the reason I'm really really wealthy is that in 2008 we let the markets crash and you could buy
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Apple Netflix and Amazon for about 8 to 12 bucks a share Netflix closed at $640 a share so what will my generation do my
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generation will Panic if there's anything resembling a notion that my generation gets to be less wealthy and
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see my stocks and real estate go down so we will mortgage their [ __ ] future by
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issuing more debt and creating stimulus and pretending that it's good for everybody you should let the markets
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fall such that young people can take advantage of what is a natural part in a capitalist cycle churn disruption so
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they can have their shot at buying real estate at buying stocks at a reasonable price but instead you're already hear
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the newspapers the newspapers are freaking out you're already hearing this [ __ ] Narrative of oh we've got a
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we've got the government needs to intervene with stimulus or bring down interest rates no we let the we need to
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let the markets do their job and the next generation of people needs to appreciate how wonderful capitalism is
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and the other thing for people to realize it's always said it all the times whenever there's a crash it's a
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good it's a good reason to sit tight right like sit tight so don't you don't need the money you don't need a yacht
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that's right don't panic here it's already the market has already like recovered most of its its gains here and
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but what I hate is the notion that if you're a 30 year-old producer of a podcast and you're finally making some
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good money and you can invest 20 grand a year in a stock you want the markets to
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crash because you're investing you're an investing part of your life and this [ __ ] that we need to pull out our
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our kids and grandkids credit card to keep us wealthy it is it's a virus that infects our society we need churn we
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need disruption anyways thank you for my Tad talk yeah y yeah it's true I AG I like I like your take that's a take
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we'll see where it goes if everyone loses all their money they're G to call you Scott anyway um we'll see what
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happens

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Episode Highlights

  • Intel's Historic Trading Day
    Intel announces a major workforce cut and suspends dividends, marking its worst trading day in 40 years.
    “Intel had the worst trading day in 40 years, cutting 15% of its workforce.”
    @ 01m 05s
    August 06, 2024
  • The Myth of Market Highs
    Discussion on the misconception that market highs are beneficial for younger generations.
    “My generation has convinced them of a myth that market highs are a good thing.”
    @ 07m 22s
    August 06, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • What the [ __ ] are you going to do to save shareholder value here?
    Stock Market Sell-Off: Why Disruption is a Good Thing | Pivot
  • We need churn, we need disruption.
    Stock Market Sell-Off: Why Disruption is a Good Thing | Pivot

Key Moments

  • Tech Earnings Uncertainty00:32
  • Intel's Workforce Cut01:05
  • Market Myths07:22

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