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Melinda French Gates, MacKenzie Scott, and the New Era of Giving | Pivot

May 31, 2024 / 12:07

This episode discusses Melinda French Gates' announcement of her $1 billion philanthropic initiative aimed at supporting women, families, and reproductive rights in the U.S. The conversation highlights her collaboration with notable figures like former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and philanthropist MacKenzie Scott, who recently donated $2.2 billion to various nonprofits.

The hosts express admiration for the philanthropic approaches of women like Gates and Scott, contrasting them with male counterparts who engage in self-serving donations. They emphasize the importance of genuine philanthropy over vanity projects.

Richard Reeves, a scholar from the Brookings Institute, is mentioned for his work on the struggles faced by young men, which Gates supports with a $20 million grant. The discussion reflects on the positive impact of these philanthropic efforts in America.

The hosts critique the notion of dynastic wealth and advocate for giving away wealth during one's lifetime rather than posthumously. They argue that true philanthropy should focus on immediate impact rather than future promises.

The episode concludes with a shared belief in the value of spending money to benefit others and the economy, celebrating the contributions of women in philanthropy.

TLDR

Melinda French Gates announces a $1 billion initiative for women's rights, contrasting genuine philanthropy with self-serving donations from male counterparts.

Episode

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Melinda French Gates She announced her next chapter in philanthropy this week as she prepares to leave the Bill and
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Melinda Gates Foundation she plans to donate $ billion dollar globally over the next two years to help support women
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and families as well as Reproductive Rights in the US a portion of the money will also be distributed in the form of
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a $20 million grants to individuals like former New Zealand prime minister jenda
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ardar and director Avid Deer uh to use at their discretion I think Melinda was a a funer of her recent film for example
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and there's a whole bunch of people the 19th she's given all this these grants to really terrific groups and it's a
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it's a fascinating move between her and McKenzie Scott uh we have entered a very
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interesting era of philanthropy McKenzie Scott as you know a former uh was used to be married to Jeff Bezos donated $640
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million to over 300 nonprofits a few months ago she donated $2.2 billion last year she is burning up the getting rid
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of her money off her plate as if it's like lava um this is really interesting um these two women and then obviously uh
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um Lorraine Powell jobs is making media Investments she has her own Emerson Collective that does both philanthropy
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and Investments um what do you what do what do you think what do you think about this I think it's wonderful um I
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think I'm a sexist I think there are certain behaviors that are more prone to people born as women and born as men and
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one of the things I noticed about uh philanthropy from women is they're not as big on the ribbon cutting and
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believing that they should have input and influence into education because they give you know $50 million to the
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New York school district not recognizing they don't know a [ __ ] thing about public school education I find that
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generally speaking when women give money away it's in return they ask for Less in
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return and they're more promiscuous they're like I've got a [ __ ] ton of money it makes no sense to hoard wealth
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and I'm going to start pushing it out and I'm going to ask for almost nothing in return and I think McKenzie Scott is
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an outstanding American I mean look at I I'm here for Bill Gates's uh I'm sorry I'm here for Jeff Bezos midlife crisis I
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actually enjoy watching it I can relate to it but while he's building super Yachts for $300
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million you know mckeny Scott is sending sending $15 million to the jet Foundation to work on teen suicide and
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by the way she doesn't demand anything she doesn't want to show up she doesn't want her name on anything she just wants
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to get start helping people and this field this feels like that and then in another
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what I think is just absolutely wonderful here and I think I'm going on Morning Joe on oh cool you like I do but
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more importantly they like me but I'm going on tomorrow and with Richard Reeves but I'm a glass half empty kind of guy I
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talk a lot about what's wrong with America but here's the reality despite you know our House of Representatives
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insulting each other's looks despite the zombie apocalypse of useful idiots on campuses America is singular around some
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really wonderful things and this is an American story this is uh and I'm a big fan of Richard Reeves he kind of got
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highlighted to me or brought to my attention some of the things going on with the struggles the young men face
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the guys at the Brookings Institute he's an outstanding scholar he takes a risk starts his own business it's a nonprofit
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but it's a true nonprofit he doesn't answer to Microsoft called the American Institute for boys and men he takes a
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risk he starts his thing just to produce research around the struggles that young
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men are facing and then a woman named Melinda French Gates finds him and gives him $20
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million and you know something this is a uniquely American story it does happen in other parts of the world but it
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doesn't happen as often as it happens in America so for all of the [ __ ] posting
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and of all of the catastrophizing of all of the the clickbait around everything that's wrong
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with our nation this is one of the things that's right with it we create tremendous economic value and then good
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people want to push it out to do good work I I just love this story I'm really happy for Richard
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and also Melinda French Gates has said bodily autonomy and women's rights are hugely important she's passionate about
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it it's wonderful but at the same time she said if we're going to have a a a Vibrant Community who wants more
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economically and emotionally viable young men women that's right and she's giving money to an Institute that's
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focused on boys I I think she's I think she's wonderful go Melinda French gay let me make a a comparison of something
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we just talked about these sort of childlike childish men men are doing their stupid Trump fundraiser with very
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little money that they're putting out to get a lot of influence and doing no good
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for Humanity except for themselves except for like self-aggrandizing themselves both jamath and David saxs
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and also Elon Musk is doing this but doing nothing to help all of society they're just giving a ping amount of
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money to horish politicians in order to have influence meanwhile Melinda Gates and uh and McKenzie Bezos are using
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money real money real money not little tiny multi-million dollar $5,000 donations to have dinner with a with
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someone who has been found liable for rape no they're not using their money for that they're giving away billions
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and billions of dollars to laudable people across the globe to make the world a better place what a [ __ ]
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comparison these men are sad and [ __ ] and these women have balls as big as all ever that's all I'll say
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dickas Jesus Christ dickas sorry by the way my no but they're doing this so they
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can have a party in Silicon Valley for trump it drives me nuts that these people think they're important when this
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is where the real if you have money like this this is what you should do with it
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thank you well again these it's not they're not presenting their money to issues they're using a small amount of
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money to present themselves that's correct it's it this isn't one is Vanity one is philanthropy but I don't know if
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you knew this but my girlfriend often compared me to Bill Gates when we would have sex because I'm Microsoft oh my God
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literally putting a penis joke on my power all that you are angry this morning you are going after you got to
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be careful in San Francisco there's a lot of these these pretend to care about the world they don't care about the
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world that's the thing these women do they're actually putting their money where their mouth is and they're not by
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the way are you hearing from McKenzie Scott she just gives the money and leaves in the dark of night Molina
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French Gates gave a few interviews talking and she's giving to help reproductive right she and by the way
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they're putting it all over the place it's not just in like liberal causes they're putting it in places that matter
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for kids and families they're putting it to feed people they're putting it to it's just like the contrast is so vast
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I'm not mad I'm like why do we these terrible men compared to these amazing women is just such a great contrast for
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me um for me and understanding what's going on by the way FYI a lot of these people one of the things that the gates
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is did start was the giving pledge with with um Warren Buffett in 2010 Sam Alman
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and his husband just announced that they plan to give away most of their wealth as part of the giving pledge I've always
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thought that was a cool thing I don't know I've always thought I don't think it is you don't why tell me why I don't
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know I I to pledge to give away all your wealth why is that okay big [ __ ] deal
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okay I pledge to give away all my wealth this is what it means all right I'm going to put a couple billion dollars
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into a donor advise fund MH and this is different this is the giving pledge this
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is not that but the giving pledge all the giving pledge says is that after I'm dead that somebody is going to give my
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money away okay I don't okay fine great you don't believe in dynastic wealth it has absolutely no impact on you maybe
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you even put it into a donor advice fund where you get a tax deduction against it
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that's different yeah but that's that's a component of this notion that you're a
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good person because at some point you're going to give your money away and I'm going to a lot of virtu signaling right
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now I hit my number seven years ago and I've decided that above that number I'm giving everything away now because
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here's the thing this is a virus that alss America hoarding money Fair there needs to be a movement in America that
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once you hit your number you just start giving it away now you don't say I want credit for being a great guy after I
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have had all my Boeing Business Jets after I have bought football teams after I've had seven midlife crises and then
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when I'm dead and it no longer matters to me I'll give it away there is no you have literally just convinced me you are
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correct I don't say this very often uhoh cat's living with dogs the world has stopped rotating God you're right you're
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right I that's why I love these badass women they're giving it away lit you know what the goal is the goal is to
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give an I'll leave my kids a little bit of money but this is the goal to be at the end of your life to spent the money
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on other people and experiences and be surrounded die at home be surrounded by people who are going to be really bummed
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that you're leaving not not a bunch of press releases saying why the [ __ ] are you worth a hundred billion dollar yeah
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SC why didn't you start giving it away at how much you leaving your kids what is the number what's the number one
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leaves one kid uh I I'm this is the challenge and this is a good problem but you want to give them enough money such
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that they can do anything but not enough money such that they can do nothing ah yes and the key is I mean again this is
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the world buy a house give them money for a house that's what I say money that quite frankly they don't have access to
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until they're 25 35 and 45 MH money for Education money for a home but not enough money such that they don't have
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to work yep that's we're on the same parenting thing that's the thing that's correct yes that's exactly but I've
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decided and I love it I hit my number seven years ago my number is probably a lot lower than most of these guys and
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I'm like anything above that I'm going to either spend it at the hotel du cap yes on me by the way on friends and
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people I love or I'm going to give it away there is no reason once you're above a certain number to hoard wealth
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I'm a big fan of Daniel Conan and I went back and read some of his work when he passed
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away let let's pick a number $100 million of a $100 million if it grows four or 6% a year four to six million
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bucks a year gets you a beautiful home a beautiful second home a flexjet card do
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whatever you want with whomever you want pretty much all of the time you can just
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have an extraordinary life the difference between a 100 million and a billion there's no marginal increase in
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the quality of your life there is as a matter of fact there'll be some incre you can buy a football team you can have
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more influence over politics but there's also a downside people start Tak taking
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pictures of your kids people start start running stories you about you in TMZ there is a downside so if there's no
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incremental gain in happiness and so many people would benefit from the types of donations that Mackenzie Scott and
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Melinda French gates are making why on Earth wouldn't you enjoy that happiness yeah and not hoard wealth and help
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people you're you know what this is this was a very good explanation I'm still I
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still think the others are shameful and these women are ballers that's my feeling good for them well they're true
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they they Define what it the word giving is overused and they have earned the right they own the right to say that
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they are giving what these other folks are doing is consumption it's PR a lot of its virtu saying I'm going to give
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all my money away after I'm dead who the [ __ ] I don't care what happens to my money after I'm dead that's not doing
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anything that's not should be now that's 100% wand around and give people $100 bills let's do that and also let me be
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cap here I also think it's really wonderful and good for the world to spend it spend a [ __ ] ton of money put
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it back into the economy enjoy it the world offers amazing things that you can spend money on I don't I I think it's
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great when people spend a ton of money and I'm Scott I feel like this should be your next book spend spend [ __ ] spend
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the new novel see this is why I love the show you have shifted my thoughts in a very good way in a very helpful way
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anyway uh I still I love these women I think they're great anyway uh let it makes me feel so much better about the
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other [ __ ]

Episode Highlights

  • Melinda French Gates' New Philanthropic Chapter
    Melinda French Gates announces plans to donate $1 billion globally to support women and families.
    “She plans to donate $1 billion globally over the next two years.”
    @ 00m 07s
    May 31, 2024
  • The Era of Women Philanthropists
    A discussion on the impact of women like Melinda French Gates and McKenzie Scott in philanthropy.
    “We have entered a very interesting era of philanthropy.”
    @ 00m 38s
    May 31, 2024
  • Contrast in Philanthropy
    A stark contrast is drawn between the philanthropic efforts of women and men.
    “These women do, they're actually putting their money where their mouth is.”
    @ 06m 15s
    May 31, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • This is one of the things that's right with it.
    Melinda French Gates, MacKenzie Scott, and the New Era of Giving | Pivot
  • These women have balls as big as all ever.
    Melinda French Gates, MacKenzie Scott, and the New Era of Giving | Pivot
  • Why on Earth wouldn't you enjoy that happiness and help people?
    Melinda French Gates, MacKenzie Scott, and the New Era of Giving | Pivot

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  • New Philanthropic Chapter00:02
  • Billion Dollar Donation00:07
  • Women in Philanthropy00:38
  • Contrast in Giving06:15

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