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July 26, 2024 / 06:53

This episode discusses the recent decline of NASDAQ due to disappointing earnings reports from Alphabet and Tesla. Key topics include Alphabet's advertising sales growth, Tesla's earnings performance, and the implications for the EV market.

Alphabet reported an 11% growth in advertising sales, down from 13% in the previous quarter. The company faced challenges with its AI strategy, particularly with its Gemini platform, which is significantly trailing behind competitors like OpenAI. Concerns about slowing YouTube sales also contributed to a nearly 5% drop in Alphabet's shares.

Tesla's earnings showed a 7% decline in auto revenue, leading to a 10% drop in shares over five days. The discussion highlights the growing competition in the EV market, with Tesla's premium pricing shrinking significantly. The hosts express skepticism about Tesla's future product offerings and the company's reliance on its Robo taxi division for future profits.

Concerns were raised about Elon Musk's corporate governance decisions, particularly regarding his focus on AI ventures instead of core automotive business. The episode features a critical analysis of Tesla's valuation compared to other automotive companies, emphasizing the risks associated with its projected profits.

Overall, the episode provides insights into the challenges faced by both Alphabet and Tesla in a rapidly changing tech landscape, highlighting investor concerns and market dynamics.

TLDR

NASDAQ drops due to Alphabet and Tesla's disappointing earnings, raising concerns about their future strategies and market positions.

Episode

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Scott we're back for our second big story the NASDAQ has taken its biggest tumble since 2022 thanks to earnings
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reports from alphabet and Tesla alphabet's quarterly earning showed a slowing growth in advertising sales with
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ad sales Rising 11% down from 13% the previous quarter on top of that whiz the cyber security startup we had talked
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about alphabet plan to acquire had decided to turn down the $23 billion offer alphabet Shares are down almost 5%
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in the last five days the time of the taping um I want to talk about this but I'm going to mention Tesla earnings have
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showed a seven % line with auto Revenue with earnings per share coming down below Wall Street estimates Sals the
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shares are down 10% last 5 days given up a lot of the gains they've been making um NASDAQ is down over 3% in the last
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five days and the S&P is down 2% because of these tech companies um I'd love to hear your thoughts on this this is your
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big area of expertise talk a little bit about uh alphabet first and then Tesla well alphabet actually had a decent
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quarter it's just that one I mean alphabet's dealing with this existential issue of having one foot in and one foot
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out of AI in the sense that they have Gemini but Gemini gets about an eighth of the traffic of open AI or of chap GPT
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and when you think about all the Head Start in the captive audience across Google and Android to have only the
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eighth of the traffic of what is supposed to be a startup but is really just Microsoft AI is unusual and the
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question is they're trying to incorporate AI into their core platform search and there's still a little bit
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people would argue trapped in the innovator's dilemma and that is they don't want to go all in on Gemini at the
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risk of cannibalizing this quar of a trillion dollar toll booth amazing best business probably in history called
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search so there's still kind of I would argue a little bit one foot in one foot out trying to have their cake and eat it
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too I understand why they're doing people got spooked about YouTube uh sales slowing I didn't think it was that
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big a deal and the other thing that's hurting their earnings is like everyone else they're now except for Apple
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they're now in this arms race and their capex right was um dramatically up sort of which sort of hit hit earnings the
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bigger story I think or what was more like genuinely bad news was um Tesla and that is the EV Market I think it's
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interesting an interesting analogy would be the streaming market and that is it was
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overinvestment EV was $88,500 more expensive than its um than its intern combustion Pier now
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that number that margin at premium has dropped to $1,500 and the F-150 Lightning the Eevee is actually $10,000
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less than its internal combustion uh counterpart probably because they produce too many in addition that while
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the market continues to grow Tesla has not a lot of people would describe its products as a bit tired they have made a
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lot of progress around describe them they are a bit tired let's you know we've been saying that for a year like
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where's their new stuff except for that heinous cyber truck I drove in a a friend of mine is this master of the
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universe hedge guy I went out to the Hamptons to see him and he has a matte black cyber truck and people were
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stopped and staring at it and it's just I I drove in it I would describe it as a
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ridiculous car out of a out of a Simpsons episode I think it's insane but were you embarrassed to get in it I'd be
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embarrassed to get in it oh no there's a lot of I've done that's much more embarrassing but what's the problem what
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does he have to do here he obviously was he took a vote on Twitter whe whether to
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to invest $5 billion doll in xai I mean I'm literally like when is the SEC going
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to come and arrest this fella well first I mean there's a couple things one the way if you listen to the earnings call
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the questions were more pointed and more heated than they've been in a long time
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to this point the earnings calls have been a bunch of stenographers and sick ofense thanking him for a great quarter
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this one was distinctly like boss we have been waiting for a robo taxi for 5 years you know how frustrating that is
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to be on a corner when you call and they say oh a robo tax is just it's a minute
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away it's a year away he's even saying now that it could be by the end of the year but it might be 2025 he said I
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think in 2019 or 2020 we were a year away and people's patience oh no no he constantly constant people's patience is
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is um really uh really wearing thin but more than anything I'm a valuation guy if you look at forward earnings Ford
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trades at seven times forward earnings GM trades at five times forward earnings Ferrari an AM amazing company with you
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want to talk about a moat trades it 50 times right um uh Tesla trades at 99 times forward earning earnings and the
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moment you say that people say well it's not a car company it's an energy company
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it's going to be a robo tax something else the scariest thing in that earnings call is that their 2030 projected
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profits they're saying 80% of those projected profits will come from its Robo taxi division right so they are
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estim ating that four fifths of their profit are going to come from a division in a technology that they haven't shown
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an ability to even deliver yet I know I I need to I just real quick need to correct myself it wasn't the company it
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was R Kathy Woods which makes it batet crazy anyways but she was saying 90% of Tesla's Enterprise Value earnings will
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be attributed to the robo taxi business by 2021 you know what I was thinking when I heard these I was like this guy
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had everything like he had it like he could have shifted into to new products new exciting things he could of owned it
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like really been Ferrari right and he's just blown it here in a way that I I it's sort of sad because it was a very
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good company and it still is in a lot of ways it's just I'm I'm just the corporate governance here I mean it's
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just the idea that you would say to Tesla shareholders I'm going to take5 billion of our hard-earned cash flow and
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use it to try and take my other failing company and put on an AI dress you just that wouldn't even be a
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conversation at a board level of most companies they' be like no stay focused on we do cars Boss we're not we're not
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in media and we're not interested in funding your adventures in AI media with our hard-earned money and instead he
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takes to a Twitter poll like have you pulled your board members that represent the shareholders at Tesla but again do
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corporate governance is sort of a a a cute novelty we used to talk about before before musk it is such a waste I
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was just thinking you know I'm not inclined to him in any way but I feel bad because it was a really good you
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know what I mean like you're like why did you go out with that girl when you had this girl anyway people make bad bad
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choices

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Episode Highlights

  • NASDAQ's Biggest Tumble Since 2022
    The NASDAQ has experienced a significant drop due to disappointing earnings from major tech companies.
    “Alphabet shares are down almost 5% in the last five days.”
    @ 00m 20s
    July 26, 2024
  • Tesla's Earnings Call Raises Concerns
    Tesla's earnings call revealed pointed questions about the long-awaited robo-taxi technology.
    “People's patience is really wearing thin.”
    @ 04m 15s
    July 26, 2024
  • Tesla's Valuation Compared to Rivals
    Tesla's valuation is significantly higher than traditional automakers, raising eyebrows among investors.
    “Tesla trades at 99 times forward earnings.”
    @ 04m 39s
    July 26, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • Tesla trades at 99 times forward earnings.
    Tech Stocks Take a Dive | Pivot
  • It’s sort of sad because it was a very good company.
    Tech Stocks Take a Dive | Pivot

Key Moments

  • Alphabet's Earnings00:06
  • Tesla's Challenges02:00
  • Robo-Taxi Frustration03:55
  • Corporate Governance Issues06:31

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