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Texas Stock Exchange: A New Challenger to NYSE & NASDAQ? | Pivot

June 11, 2024 / 05:24

This episode discusses the proposed Texas Stock Exchange, its backing by BlackRock and Citadel Securities, and its potential impact on the New York Stock Exchange and NASDAQ. Key topics include the exchange's plans to register with the SEC, facilitate trades, and launch by 2026.

The conversation features Texas Governor Greg Abbott's comments on the exchange being for companies focused on capitalism. The hosts express skepticism about the politicization of stock exchanges and the marketing strategies that may arise.

The discussion also touches on Texas's growing economy, its number of Fortune 500 companies, and the potential for Elon Musk to move his companies to the new exchange. The hosts debate the implications of dual listings and the competition between exchanges.

They highlight the benefits of increased competition, such as lower fees and pressure on existing exchanges to improve services. The hosts express concerns about the politicization of business practices and the potential for regional rivalry between Texas and New York.

Overall, the episode presents a mix of optimism for the new exchange and caution regarding its implications for the financial landscape.

TLDR

Texas proposes a new stock exchange to compete with NYSE and NASDAQ, raising questions about politicization and market dynamics.

Episode

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the New York Stock Exchange in NASDAQ may be facing some new competition from Texas the proposed Texas Stock Exchange
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which was backed by Block rock and Citadel Securities those guys um has raised approximately 100 you know who
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I'm talking about 120 million from individuals and large investment firms The Exchange known as txse plans to
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register with the SEC later this year begin facilitating trades next year and launch by
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2026 uh the TXS just flips off the tongue could be fully electronic and would allow dual
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listings with companies also on the New York Stock Exchange Texas governor Greg Abbott told CNBC the new exchange is for
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companies whose only agenda is capitalism oh shut the [ __ ] up Greg guy but anyway what do you think about this
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I like a new Stock Exchange but they're going to like say we're the not woke Stock Exchange or some stupid marketing
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thing like that I think it's great I I don't like the POS I don't like the politicization of everything that now we
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we're politicizing stock exchanges that they'll try and position NYC and NASDAQ as blue the NASDAQ and NYC do I
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think get out in front of their skis and start getting into social engineering and deciding what the composition of
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boards should be um which I'm just not sure that's their job um but they are I think you need more competition and
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Texas there's not getting around it has done an amazing job the economy in Texas
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now is larger than Russia Canada and Italy it has more Fortune 500 companies now than anyone but that anyone but
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California it's tied with New York um they their value proposition here will be more business friendly lower you know
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filing fees probably less disclosure requirements I feel like I'm curious if you agree with this I smell Elon Musk
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here I I would I I would bet he's going to be their first customer and move all of his companies onto this exchange and
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if you look at if you look at these exchanges now the flip side of having these additional standards is that the
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average PE of stocks trading on the London or Shanghai exchanges is 13 the average of companies trading on the
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NASDAQ of the NYC is 26 because that additional it's like it's why people get a higher salary coming out of Princeton
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or NYU or Stanford is the screening the ability to get into these schools is so great that people assume you're better
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it's the same or more qualified I should say it's the same when you manage to get
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listed on the NASDAQ or the NYSC people assume that the vetting and the screening means you're a real company
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should trade at IR multiple why dual listings will you explain it I didn't quite understand if you're allow dual
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listings what's the difference why would you be on one exchange if you can dual list on both I mean you might as well
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well yeah but on an exchange you're essentially charging the exchange with pairing shares and I'm I'm I don't know
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like which shares get allocated to One exchange I just don't think logistically it makes sense to be trading on multiple
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exchanges although some companies do trade an ADR on a foreign exchange but but look this is another case study I
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think competition is good it'll bring down fees it'll put pressure Texas has done a great job putting pressure on
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other states and other companies and I think that's a good thing I just hate the politicization of it I don't I don't
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know we'll see competition is good we should have more than two big exchanges we used to have the OTC we in the US
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remember theot yeah you so I think it's I think it's a cool thing but my my gut is Elon Musk they called him and said
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would you move T would you move and he said I'm down with it I want the following things and I don't want you to
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ask me for my financials or ask me what my coo compensation is or disclosure requirements about XY and Z they'll
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position themselves as more business friendly and less woke I'll say because for example I think it's a NASDAQ
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requires you have at least one female board member and I I think okay that makes sense and I think well should the
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NASDAQ be dictating that I don't shouldn't aren't investors smart enough to demand that why why why is the NASDAQ
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in the business of figuring out board composition and I think there's arguments on both ends they'll exploit
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that and take advantage of it and say that's not the business we're in we're an exchange yeah y I get it I get it
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it'll be interesting to see what happens we like competition at the same time if
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you go on and on about woke you're going to exhaust us with your stupidity anyway
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you're just a money exchange so just hush hush up and just see if you can give good services to companies um I
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don't know if people are that annoyed by that one that rule necessarily we'll see
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we'll see I think the companies are going to stick with New York and NASDAQ I don't know I just feel like the big
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one yeah I don't know but you know if this I would just be shocked if they haven't already said Elon Musk yeah when
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SpaceX goes public have you thought about moving Tesla and he's like right on right on yeah you're right you're
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100% they're going to come out of the gates and not only that the the the CFO or the treasurer of of Texas will start
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putting pressure on Texas companies to list on the Texas exchange they'll create some Regional like team versus
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their team red State versus Texas versus New York you know you can just see how this going to shape up and at the end of
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the day bigger in Texas they're going to do all that bigger Texas do Texas has a
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ton of great companies it'll Force the NASDAQ and NYC to bring their fees down on the whole I like it

Episode Highlights

  • Texas Stock Exchange Emerges
    The proposed Texas Stock Exchange aims to compete with NASDAQ and the NYSE, promoting a business-friendly environment.
    “The Exchange known as txse plans to register with the SEC later this year.”
    @ 00m 15s
    June 11, 2024
  • Elon Musk's Potential Move
    Speculation arises that Elon Musk may be the first to list on the new Texas Stock Exchange.
    “I would bet he's going to be their first customer.”
    @ 01m 41s
    June 11, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • Capitalism, oh shut the [ __ ] up Greg guy.
    Texas Stock Exchange: A New Challenger to NYSE & NASDAQ? | Pivot
  • I smell Elon Musk here.
    Texas Stock Exchange: A New Challenger to NYSE & NASDAQ? | Pivot
  • Competition is good; it'll bring down fees.
    Texas Stock Exchange: A New Challenger to NYSE & NASDAQ? | Pivot
  • Bigger in Texas!
    Texas Stock Exchange: A New Challenger to NYSE & NASDAQ? | Pivot

Key Moments

  • Texas Stock Exchange00:03
  • Political Tensions00:36
  • Business-Friendly Policies01:30
  • Elon Musk Speculation01:38
  • Woke Politics Debate03:41
  • Bigger in Texas05:09

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