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Can Chili Crunch Be Trademarked? | Pivot

April 12, 2024 / 04:04

This episode discusses the controversy surrounding David Chang's Muku trademarking chili crunch, a popular condiment. The conversation includes insights on intellectual property rights, branding, and the implications of trademarking generic terms.

David Chang's Muku has sent cease and desist letters to manufacturers using the term chili crunch, leading to accusations of monopolistic behavior. The episode features a discussion on the implications of trademarking a product that many consider a cultural staple.

Scott, a branding expert, shares his thoughts on the situation, comparing it to past trademark attempts like Paris Hilton's "that's hot." He emphasizes the importance of protecting intellectual property while also ensuring a competitive marketplace.

The conversation highlights the potential legal ramifications for small companies facing intimidation from larger brands. Scott believes that the courts will likely dismiss Chang's claims regarding the trademark.

Overall, the episode raises questions about the balance between protecting innovation and allowing for cultural expressions in the marketplace.

TLDR

David Chang's Muku faces backlash for trademarking chili crunch, raising concerns about monopolistic practices and cultural appropriation.

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David Chang's muku finds itself in the middle of some chili crunch drama muku has trademarked chili crunch a spicy
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oily crispy condiment popular in Asian countries after sending cease and assist letters to manufacturers using the name
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the brand has been accused of trademarking a generic cultural product some critics have compared it the move
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to trademarking ketchup and suggested its mon his Monopoly Behavior a company in Denver previously owned the trademark
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and sent a CE to his letter to Mama fuku which instead has instead worked to purchase the trademark for itself I I
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Scott you're a branding person what the heck chili crunch I've seen chili crunch
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stuff all over the place in Asia and also anytime you go to an Asian market there's a million chili crunch things
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this seems crazy for for for M fuku and David Chang to do he looks like an we your thoughts on like this
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marketing thing well it's like the majority of bad ideas started out as good ideas and that is our ability to
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protect IP is really important whether it's someone's likeness whether it's the the patents or the you know Chemical
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Context of a pharmaceutical America's Innovation and our economy relies on what you would Loosely called
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intellectual property protection and our ability to legally protect it this has it gone crazy this reminds me of when
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Paris Hilton tried to trademark that's hot oh right yeah yeahhuh I knew you'd be good at this go ahead and someone
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said that no you can't trademark this so the reason why we have thoughtful judges
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in law and and and cases is that we can say all right there is a line here because what you have is it's been
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weaponized in the sense that these especially big companies or well resourced companies send cease deis
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letters to everyone for anything that smells of anything remote and they use it as a means of suppressing competition
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and also they use it as a means of trying to get unearned PR for example Amazon will file a patent for a not only
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a floating Warehouse which is probably um physically uh impossible for the the next couple centuries they will file a
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patent for a projectile defense Shield of their floating warehouse and the reason they do it is they know that
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reporters at Forbes and other Business magazines troll patent filings and then write about them so IP protection has
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taken on all this different Nuance including intimidation including well-resourced monopolies they Conant
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because if you get a cease and toist letter and you're a small company you're sort of inclined to say am I really
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going to take on this well-resourced company or am I just going to find another name but this is an example of a
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gone Haywire these are generic terms and I believe the court will say sorry this
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term has become generic you can't own it I think this is exactly why to talk about this even though people are sort
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of losing their minds on um on the internet here it's really important what he's done here like and I agree with you
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I agree with you this is a where do you think it's going to end up it'll be dismissed dismissed meaning he won't be
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able to to to cease into system no yeah it'll be this will be as you call it legal harassment they'll say you have no
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domain over this name and yeah and you should pay back the legal fees for the people where you're creating you know
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what whatever you call it a superflous or whatever the term but it's an issue around the trademark office too because
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I think he he does own the trademark right he owns it well but but if it's tradem markable they'll they that's
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right I can't believe he got the trademark at all right so I I just don't I I don't
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know you know I look this is a this is for IP lawyers but your ability to Inc to encourage people to make the
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requisite investment in developing important differentiated intellectual property is really important to provide
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that protection at the same time you have to ensure that there's a competitive marketplace where people who
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are trying to develop their own IP don't bump into IP that's been inflated Beyond
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reasonable protection

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  • Chili Crunch Trademark Controversy
    David Chang's brand faces backlash for trademarking a common condiment, raising questions about IP rights.
    “This seems crazy for M fuku and David Chang to do.”
    @ 00m 39s
    April 12, 2024

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  • This reminds me of when Paris Hilton tried to trademark that's hot.
    Can Chili Crunch Be Trademarked? | Pivot

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  • Cultural Product Debate00:12
  • Legal Harassment03:05

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