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Elon Musk is suing open Ai and its CEO Sam mman saying they abandoned the company's original Mission to develop AI
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for the benefit of humanity and not for profit in the lawsuit musk accuses opena
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and Alman of being in breach of contract and violating fiduciary duty and asks that opena be required to open up its
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technology to others Opia is pushing back against musk in the lawsuit and an internal memo to employees Chief
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strategy Officer Jason Quan who I happen to know writing we believe the claims in
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the suit may stem from elon's regrets at not being involved with company today I
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think that essentially translate to what a loser I think I believe that's their
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attitude there at opena in fact I know it is um first of all as I said on X for those not a lawyer my summary tough
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toenails AI Karen ven note kosla who's an investor in opena posted about the
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suit saying it feels like a bit of sour grapes um most lawyers that have written
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about it says there's no merit it's not a contract this was not a contract and
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and it's just a lot of grievance by Elon Musk most contract lawyers think it's
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not but Elon always said you know does a pitch over the over the plate and an attempt lawsuits are his thing are his
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love language um what do you think about uh the the lawsuit Scott I had coffee with Ted Sandos a few weeks ago by the
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way a lovely guy and about 12 years ago I bought what was for me a lot of stock of Netflix I think 12 bucks a share and
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it fell to 10 in December so I sold it to take the tax loss and I never bought back in and now what is it at 500
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and I remember sitting there as I was talking to Ted thinking as lovely as he is if I owned a [ __ ] ton of shares right
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now I would like him so much more and but here's the thing I'm not going to sue the company because I
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[ __ ] up and made a bad decision and lost a lot of money and power and that's
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all this is there is no agreement stating between them and Elon Musk stating how they would operate the
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company he left the company these were his decisions he tried to take over and then was rebuffed and left but go ahead
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this is literally a a a child stamping his or her feet because they quit the team and then the team goes on to the
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national finals and so they get Daddy they sue the team yeah I mean there's this is legally laughable except for the
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part when you have a billionaire when you have a billionaire with armies of lawyers he will harass
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them and he will make their lives more difficult this makes this make this slows down Commerce it slows down
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Innovation and it is it is literally harassment by litigation there is no legal Merit here there is no business
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principle here it is it is a guy going wait I control space I sort of control Eves I can't believe I [ __ ] up and I
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don't control AI I know I'll sue them yeah yeah is there anything bad about
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it's interesting I've talked to people there and they're this is the I mean
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they wanted that memo out there obviously the node's been very aggressive and very like [ __ ] this guy
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essentially um and you know I think they're basically he's just he's just feels like
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a loser and he's not the cool kid he's not the cool kid in Ai and he was there
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early that's for sure for hundred I was he talked about it extensively 10 years
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ago but he definitely got made a power play as he is want to do this is one of his moves at every company he's been at
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he always makes a power play and either gets rebuffed or he wins um often gets rebuffed his early companies he
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certainly did and this is what he did here and he didn't win and he's trying
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you know put light onto he's backing the people who were against Sam Alman he's
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been backing them a lot of people feel he was involved in the in the attacks on Sam for sure um I wouldn't I wouldn't
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put it past him um and and that uh and that he's just mad about it you know he's just wants to be in it and his
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grock is not doing as well although he has tons of he has tons of chance with Twitter I guess um but it regrets
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regrets is a nice way of saying you're a loser um I think in the in the thing
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thing but does it does is it bad for open AA even if it doesn't go to trial I
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mean he's being pushed back in his other trials um uh there could be some inner
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workings revealed in the discovery thing and of course Microsoft partnership um you know there's proprietary technology
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here is there any risk at all sure there's it I mean you have a company that's trying to move a million
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miles an hour that has a ton of different considerations while they think about effects on Humanity managing
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High Growth Company track I mean this is Sam Alman has a difficult job and all this does is it says okay I have no
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justification I'm just going to distract you and make things harder for you so it
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absolutely damages open Ai and and judges if they do their job will dismiss this type of lawsuit quickly to say you
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are getting in the way of Commerce and there's no legal basis here yeah I don't
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you know and generally what I find generally what I find is that very wealthy people recognize their power and
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if they have character and I I I've never bought the Trope the senator Warren or the populist Trope that rich
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people are inherently evil I've actually found in general very wealthy people get
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there because they have High character and they establish allies along the way like regular people and they're measured
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around litigation or somewhat measured they don't they don't go out of their
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way to sue people because they realize they have more money this guy sees litigation as a means of trying to True
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up the world to his standard standard ises that s who does that sound like his standard is I should control the world
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and let me let's just ask a global question here are we better off we're better off
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for Elon Musk I still believe that he's been a Pioneer around EVS what he's
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doing in space I don't think you'd want to press a button and have him disappear
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or have him move to another country but might it be a better idea to have him doing his thing and a guy like Sam Alman
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who thus far strikes me as very thoughtful controlling the the most important company in AR or would we want
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Elon mus to control it yeah there's he's trying to [ __ ] with them that's all he's
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doing and and it'll work they already are we're already talking about it some
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some embarrassing things might come out and not only that he's Pro Sam Alman and
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key principles to this company and key funders are probably a going to have to spend time in court or give depositions
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and also they're going to have to be very careful about anything they do or say it'll pull back their risk
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aggressiveness which is which is part of being an entrepreneur and growing a a business this is just it's bad for the
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economy it's it's bad for business it sets the wrong precedent for other
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people it's I mean it's just it really is this is what Trump does too the
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lawsuits the grieve Eng grieved lawsuits it's it's it's a it's a thing he's
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moving so there was a good article in the times about how close by David French about how close Elon and Trump
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are to magga like this idea of agreement and lawsuits and anger and this and that
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it was interesting I it's just he's such a loser I unfortunately I think this
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type of this type of aggressive litigation is effective in the sense that it just places a chill over society
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and business yeah he likes to do it you know I'd rather I mean it's just
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everybody right when billionaire it started with Peter teal deciding to put a media company out of business because
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he had a ton of money this kind of stuff puts a chill on journalists it puts a chill on investors it puts a chill on
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CEOs I mean it it it's just not it's it's not the way I I don't know how you although I
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have noticed more people pushing back open a pushed back really hard I I Alex Stamos is doing one of my interviews in
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San FR in Seattle and he wasn't talk he wasn't talking publicly before you know
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what I mean because he they have the lawsuit by Elon Elon goes around suing everybody like to try to shut them up
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and I think people are like like [ __ ] you like essentially but still it causes
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money it's expensive it it uh it creates all kinds of like issues two two-thirds
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of jobs are created by small and medium-sized businesses MH if you're say he just starts and I think he's already
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done this say he just any competitor first off he called for an AI pause publicly because supp he's concerned
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about the fate of the world and it comes out he was trying to catch up that he was going full force with his own AI
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efforts and had no interest in pausing but if if big companies just start suing and to be clear big Tech is guilty of
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this they just start suing small companies left and right they can put them out of business it's really
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propulsive the small company can't it's difficult for the small company to wait
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around for the Judgment it's difficult for them to recruit employees do you know what it's like to raise money under
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the ospice of a of a of a lawsuit filed by Elon Musk or quite frankly a lot of these companies including some of our
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favorites Apple Amazon are very quick to send cease and toist letters when I left
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my last company I wanted to start another company they immediately started sending me letters and I'm like okay I
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want to work I'm not going to compete with you but I'd like to work and in
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their view it was unless you sit around and do nothing for the rest of your life
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in our view you're competing with us that's how it came across to me and
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we're going to hire this really angry mean law firm and the only reason they
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back down is cuz I'm rich yeah and they know I can defend myself yeah but what
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if it was TW 10 years ago or 20 years ago when I didn't have the money and I
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was trying to start companies I would have I wouldn't have been able to raise
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money I I would have just backed down from this big bad Corporation who had absolutely no legal Merit none
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whatsoever every lawyer I talked to said yeah you're going to win this but it's
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going to cost you a bunch of money what if I didn't have a bunch of money yeah
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it's a it's a nuisance it's a nuisance lawsuit anyway Elon get some therapy