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How the Murdoch Family Feud Is Like "Succession" | Pivot

July 30, 2024 / 08:15

This episode discusses the Murdoch family court battle over leadership of Fox Corp, the implications of trust amendments, and family dynamics.

The conversation covers Rupert Murdoch's petition to amend the family trust, which currently gives equal votes to his four children. The amendment aims to grant exclusive control to his oldest son, citing political differences as a reason. The trial is set for September in Nevada.

Guests discuss the impact of this family dispute on the company's editorial stance and shareholder interests. They also reflect on Rupert's influence in media and politics, comparing it to the fictional family dynamics in the show "Succession."

Key points include the failure of family unity, with three of Rupert's children opposing his decisions. The discussion touches on the implications of dynastic wealth and the role of trusts in family relationships.

Overall, the episode critiques Rupert's actions and the potential fallout for the Murdoch legacy, emphasizing the personal and financial stakes involved.

TLDR

The Murdoch family battles over trust control and leadership at Fox Corp, revealing deep family divisions and implications for their media influence.

Episode

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this is an interesting story did you see this Murdoch family in a court battle who will lead Corp and fox according do
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you think of this oh I know a lot about it let me just go through it for people currently the Family Trust gives each of
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rubert Murdoch's children four children equal votes he has two others but they have ownership but not votes uh he wants
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to change that he made this when he divorced from his wife Anna um to she this she insisted on this um that rert
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has filed a petition to amend the trust it's it's an irrevocable trust but that's what he's done to give exclusive
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control to his oldest son as reasoning he cites political differences with his other children that
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could impact editorial stance of his companies three other children have responded with a legal challenge the
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trial is expected to be September it's it's in Nevada where this is so it's one person who deals with trusts in Estates
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um you know there's one tiny little out that he's saying he's doing it for the benefit of these people and he's doing
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it for political reasons that's not the benefit of shareholders or anything else
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to let Lan who's presided over disaster after disaster of the company including the law lawsuits and behaviors and
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payoffs and everything else I mean Lin has been a terrible CEO in that regard um I don't think this helped
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shareholders um I've you know what's interesting I have a little knowledge of these these people um they were not
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together James um uh Liz and I think it's Prudence they were not aligned at all Liz moved back and forth like shiv
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on succession you know she was she's very much wanting her dad and her to get along um so so this United them which
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was of course another stupid thing laand does because he's as dumb as a box of hammers um so it's really interesting um
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you know this is a family that has huge impact on our society and he's trying to
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live beyond the grave this old crusty old Draculas trying to live beyond the grave what do you
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think there are a few companies I have difficult time thinking of a four profit company who um has a greater impact
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relative to it's market capitalization I mean I think the market cap of i f what
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the market cap is but it's essentially you know you have oh it's $33 billion which is um you know Warner is 20 which
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is unfair because has 40 billion in debts it's 60 billion in Enterprise Value but it's $33 billion which is you
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know big but this is arguably I me you can make a you could definitely make an argument this is one of the five or 10
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most influential companies in the world and a lot of people think that this company literally picks the Republican
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nominee uh for president and has a huge influence and Fox's viewership is really
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strong I mean he's actually I don't think it's fair to to say Lin's done a terrible job I I think the Dominion case
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was obviously a huge stub toe but I think that's more about the fact that well anyways I think I think it's unfair
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to say he's done a bad job what I took from this entire St oh come on the two cases are smar mtic coming Bill O'Reilly
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and other gropers at that company but go ahead go ahead let me say the HR has not
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been very good here but the company is the company is as influential as it has ever been and the Wall Street Journal is
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amazing um anyways up for debate whether you think he's done a good job or not what I took
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from this had nothing to do with business nothing and that is I'm I'm turning 50 and my sole objective right
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now all the money I'm spending almost every like my biggest thing right now my kids are about to be 14 and 17
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I'm buying homes in beautiful places I'm thinking about where we're going to live
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and making huge investments in my kids because all I want Mo first and foremost is I want to spend a ton of time with my
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boys when when they're older and this is a man who by any stretch of the imagination whether you think he's
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Satan's devil or whatever has had a remarkably successful career in terms of influence and impact and when he's
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getting married three of his four kids didn't show up I know was which in my view which in my view means you have
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failed yeah and it also reverse engineer to another thing tax policy I think we dramatically need to increase tax rates
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above say 10 million a year or on trusts because I'm telling you carara creating
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dynasties it doesn't do anyone any good do you think this has been good for their family no and I I I I think it
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it's succession is we've got succession here and he you know if he dies before this thing gets gets to trial it stays
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the same and then we'll see what happens to this um to this company because the other three I wouldn't call them United
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but now they are now they're like screw you Dad like it's really it's it is pathetic it's pathe they're against
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their dad and their dad's F this is this is like the second thing I just behind wanting to spend a lot of time with my
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boys you know what I really hope I really hope that my boys are friends when they're older and sometimes with
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the way they go at it I think there's that's not given can you imagine this a family
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where three of the siblings side go ahead yeah it was tense between Lin and the rest of
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them Liz was between Pruden as out in Australia does her own thing but it's just it's it's ridiculous it's a
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ridiculous thing to do at this moment in time because he's gonna let me just tell
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you RT moch you're going to die like you know for Moon struck no matter what you
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do rubert moch you're going to die and you don't get to decide things after you're dead that's it that's it and he's
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ruining the rest of his thing just because he has this you know some people think that llan is unduly influencing
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him he is 90 some years old that's one of the little things you know that laan's engineering this well how you
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could make the same argument on the other three no they didn't start this thing this was this has been in place
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for for decades they didn't move to change it this this rert did a little bit of background an irrevocable trust
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is basically a tax shelter and this is what I'm getting at dynasties as far as I can tell don't do anyone any good they
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remove tax dollars from the Commonwealth your kids don't end up fighting each other and not showing up at their
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father's wedding and dynastic wealth and tax policies that lead to dynasties used
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to be something that we weren't down with we used to have very high um inheritance taxes and now we have raised
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minimums from 5 million per person to 11 million and here's the thing and this is
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where I'm going and I'm becoming Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren giving your
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kids Financial security fine okay but if they each get 25 million not necessarily
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Bill anything you give your kids about 10 or 20 million it doesn't make them any happier and at some point when you
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have this dynasty that has all this political influence and impact on the world it ends up separating families and
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dividing them that could be but I'm saying this thing was in place for decades he agreed to it this is what it
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is and now he's having buyer remorse it's all rer or Lin generated this is not those other kids doing this but this
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is what you have to do to put something in something that transfers to your kids
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taxfree is called a trust but the thing about the trust is it has to be irrevocable now that term irrevocable is
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really important it means that the construct and the agreements within the trust have to hold you don't get to then
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decide to change it and what he's claiming is no I want the irrevocable trust to be revocable and there's a
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loophole and the loophole is a following if you can prove you're making decisions that um help help them
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economically right but he's basically going to try and say that my view my endorsement of someone who has a
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different political complexion than the other three will help them economically and I would think legally the other
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three would be able to swap that down or just delay just take a note you know page out of the Trump lawyer handbook
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and just keep delaying this case because he's not his expiration date is about 10
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years past due oh don't no his mother lived to like way past 100 I forgot she's riding around a golf cart
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who knows in any case it's sad and pathetic and he's going right down the suar Redstone Avenue as they all I
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thought maybe they would avoid this but I don't know

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Episode Highlights

  • Murdoch Family Court Battle
    The Murdoch family is embroiled in a court battle over control of their media empire.
    “Who will lead Corp and Fox?”
    @ 00m 03s
    July 30, 2024
  • Trust Amendment Petition
    Rupert Murdoch has filed a petition to amend the family trust, seeking exclusive control for his oldest son.
    “He wants to change that.”
    @ 00m 14s
    July 30, 2024
  • Impact of Dynastic Wealth
    The discussion revolves around the implications of dynastic wealth on family relationships and society.
    “Dynasties don't do anyone any good.”
    @ 06m 03s
    July 30, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • This is a family that has huge impact on our society.
    How the Murdoch Family Feud Is Like "Succession" | Pivot
  • You don't get to decide things after you're dead.
    How the Murdoch Family Feud Is Like "Succession" | Pivot
  • Dynasties don't do anyone any good.
    How the Murdoch Family Feud Is Like "Succession" | Pivot
  • It’s sad and pathetic.
    How the Murdoch Family Feud Is Like "Succession" | Pivot

Key Moments

  • Trust Control00:24
  • Family Division04:40
  • Dynasty Discussion06:03
  • Sad Outcome08:05

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