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How J.D. Vance Got Tech Billionaire Backing | Pivot

July 19, 2024 / 09:56

This episode discusses the political influence of Silicon Valley figures like JD Vance and Peter Thiel, the implications of money in politics, and the relationship between tech and Trump.

The conversation highlights JD Vance's background, including his connections to Peter Thiel and his controversial political stances. The hosts critique Vance's lack of significant legislative achievements and question his qualifications for higher office.

They also examine the broader implications of wealthy individuals using their financial power to influence political outcomes, particularly in relation to cryptocurrency and government policies.

The hosts express concern about the potential consequences of a Trump presidency, especially regarding foreign policy and social issues. They argue that the current political climate resembles a kleptocracy, where money dictates political favors.

The episode concludes with a discussion on the need for honest conversations about leadership and the direction of the country, emphasizing the urgency of addressing these issues.

TLDR

Silicon Valley's influence on politics, JD Vance's role, and concerns over money dictating political outcomes are discussed in this episode.

Episode

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so here we have it here they have they're trying to buy a presidency essentially I think Trump doesn't get
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what just happened with with JD Vance let me just take a moment we talked about him last week he his job record is
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not good in Tech let me just say and and including Steve Kate saying he didn't do
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much right when he worked for him um he had a he had a firm that didn't do well uh he he had one company took public
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that's gone bankrupt um he essentially was you know it really interesting cuz Rachel M did a great thing on him uh
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this week where she basically called him an intern for Peter teal Peter teal got
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him all his jobs and then gave him money to run for Senate and now has pushed him
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right into Trump's arms including getting the the Senate um endorsement which was critical to him and then
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convincing Donald Jr to press the president for this so you know this has been a beat or teal operation the whole
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time I I have to tip my hat to him because I do think he's quite brilliant um not so much David saaks but he
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certainly is but you know it's a small group of people they put up a list of them David sax did and it's all like the
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Winkle vosses and bunch of other this Sean McGuire person who never shuts up um he's a VC it's all these unpleasant
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VCS and um when you the information did a a poll of Voters uh Silicon Valley and
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it was overwhelmingly Biden over Trump the average people um and startup people and this and that it's mostly these
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incredibly Afflicted uh VCS who think they're victims um so you know and there's there's there's others on the
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other side obviously um Reed Hoffman Mark Cuban etc etc quietly Cheryl Samberg it is a dramatic shift red
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because in past I think the past couple presidential elections you've had like 80 plus percent of the dollar volume
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coming out of the value has gone Democratic these are real players the thing that struck me was that I found it
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a couple things one for SEO and andrees to come out and be this political overly
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um must mean that they have such extraordinary they feel they have such extraordinary upside probably around
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Bitcoin probably around some sort of dialogue they've had with with President Trump that if he's elected he's going to
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do something that that totally legitimizes or integrates Bitcoin technology into whatever the Federal
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Reserve or fiscal planning or some sort of monetary policy that would take the price of Bitcoin and crypto so far up
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that they've decided to sort the risk is what I got got to think here is if I'm seoa has a Ottawa teachers or the state
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pension fund from Michigan is limited partners I got to think right away they got letters saying okay let's be clear
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we gave you money to get an above Market return investing in startups we are not
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interested in taking the pensions of teachers of public school teachers in Michigan yep and having it go to a trump
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pack so the the deal here must be on the face of it so incredibly lucrative in terms of upside for them to publicly
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come out in favor of trump it's just I it's dramatic but the thing that's the thing that's disappointing here is that
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it's one thing when people so first off citizens united it's too much money in politics it is what it is the the
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Supreme Court has decided that money is Free Speech okay it is it is what it is people have the right to give money and
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it's going to result in influence this seems to have taken it though to kind of a next level of
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uh pay to play that these are specific issues that aren't even connected to any sort of ideology or political way of
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thinking it's a general notion that if I give $45 million a month I'm pretty sure
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he will place slap tariffs on byd the largest ev Chinese EV company I'm pretty sure that if these if we and andrees
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give a lot of money to Trump that he will do what we want around crypto this is this feels like a kleptocracy it's
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not supporting political ideology it's just if I give you enough money you will you will you will use the the strength
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and the reach of the government to ensure that I get I get sweetheart deals and they're also trying to go against
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competitors you know elon's way behind an AI so attack open AI attack Google uh one thing that's interesting is um is
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with JD Vance we'll talk about in a second but one of the things um you know elon's bought Twitter and made it assful
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but it's also oo part of a play which Mark cubin told me was he said this isn't about Twitter or anything else he
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comes out of his stupid mouth it's about his Global impact in terms of dealing with autocrats and his other businesses
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right he always was like focus on his businesses care and not his stupid remarks about trans people even though
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they're stupid um you know but he's erased any error of neutrality for the platform the New York Times noted
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another thing I would note is back in March I said he was going to back Trump and back him heavy and those his stance
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came down on me like a ton of bricks when I said that on Jennifer Jens saki show and right you know because I know
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he wants money and that was sort of inspired by my a discussion I had with Mark cubin I think he was 100% right he
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predicted that and this role of JD Vance uh in all this is interesting um you know he's kind of a a tech bro uh Butler
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he's a he's a tech bro Butler is what I a billionaire Butler um Rachel mat called him Peter Teal's intern which I
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thought was funny um Vance worked at this Venture Capal said um and he's just been Peter teal has been holding his
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hand the whole time you know you know holding everything to um to help him along the way you know it's it's
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literally like um you know they say everyone gets on their own Merit this guy is like the the a poster child for
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uh special needs um he keeps getting pushed upward even though he's not that particularly successful um but he has
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those stances he's bullish on crypto um he owns Bitcoin uh he's he's actually praised FC FTC charina con he's a
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conservative for her efforts to crack down on big Tech but the tech he's going after is Google because in his words
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it's explicitly Progressive technology company they're also going after Facebook which is interesting Mark and
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Rec's on the board of that he's called for the reform of section 230 he's just in there he's in their pocket I just
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don't know what else to say what do you think yeah did like I said it feels like
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a kleptocracy it's pay forplay it's not on ideology it's you know I think I think we've covered this I I the place I
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disagree with you on I like JD Vance does he have the credentials to be vice president probably not he well I
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don't know he's been there a year and a half Scott he's passed no significant legis how long was Obama there I get
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that but nonetheless he's passed no significant registation he's he had no business he had he had no business
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success I'm not a fan of the man I I think that when the scariest thing in my view around Trump is that he's uh in my
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opinion lacks focus and wants to take us to the handmaid's tale and 2025 if you're interested is literally a
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Manifesto for where they're planning to go and the thing that scares me about Vance is that he has said repeatedly I
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don't care about Ukraine and generally speaking throughout history when world leaders have shown Western leaders have
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shown an indifference to an autocrat invading Europe it doesn't end well and so I'm I you know I find both of these
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people scarier and scariest but in terms of just the pick itself and his performance as a politician you know my
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joke around Vance and I'll get you know Vance is half Trump's age hot and deep down hates Trump it's
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Trump's fourth wife you know I agree with you on that I I do think he's thinking this is Don Jr successful but
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this guy's not successful neither is Don Jr and he was shoved he he was you know
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they he made the decision supposedly like right after he got shot which is perfect Murdoch and other Sarah Palin
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wasn't successful that that hasn't gotten way Murdoch was pushing for beram who is actually successful and he runs a
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state even if it's a small state it's a state um and same thing with Rubio I don't like margar Rubio but he's an
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experienced legislator this guy is like a nobody he's a he's a vessel that said there's a really good article I push
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everyone to in Politico about people JD Vance likes go find out who his Inspirations are you will be disturbed
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it's all cons very conservative catholic christian theology who are very frightening in terms of what they say
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about gays about women about all kinds of things there's a whole he help of weird with this guy you know that the he
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so said that these people on the far left talking about like how do you be misogynist and weird at the same time
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are all cat owning childless people that are deeply unhappy and hate children I'm
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like uhhuh he was like you liberals don't believe in the future with childless and
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I said I have [ __ ] children you have wrong with your with you I don't get it like I think he he mentioned children
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was so strange it was such a strange look just to keep it real because we need somebody needs to have increasingly
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honest and open and Urgent conversations with President Biden they're kicking our ass right now Cara
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no I don't think they are kicking our ass oh my gosh they're killing it I like our chances I like our chances I
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do band talk because of the bandage that's why I've decided who are we talking about when you say like our
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chances who who women who do you think once they get a whole heap in helping of this guy they will he's not a good
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choice he's made Trump vulnerable to a I don't think Trump actually does believe
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a lot of that stuff you know what I mean this guy's a died in the W strange one with the with the he's the
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he's the handmaid's tail guy not Trump necessarily

Episode Highlights

  • Kleptocracy in Politics
    The conversation highlights the troubling trend of financial influence over political decisions, suggesting a shift towards a kleptocratic system.
    “This feels like a kleptocracy.”
    @ 04m 00s
    July 19, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • This feels like a kleptocracy.
    How J.D. Vance Got Tech Billionaire Backing | Pivot
  • It's pay for play, it's not about ideology.
    How J.D. Vance Got Tech Billionaire Backing | Pivot

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  • Kleptocracy Discussion04:00
  • Political Ideology Shift06:26

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