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we are going to get to where Trump's mine is now with an interview with Anthony scaramucci who is the White
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House communications director under Donald Trump and is the founder of managing partner of skybridge capital
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welcome Anthony how you doing I'm doing well how are you you know let me just say I'm gonna let medy start because he
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requested you so I I I I want him to start on this we're obviously going to talk about where Donald Trump's head is
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at so uh medie take it away Anthony good to see you I thought you'd be a great person to talk to this week after Donald
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Trump's rambling pre press conference insane dishonest press conference after his uh AI accusations against Carla
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Harris's rally crowds I know you've been asked this many times before over the years but let me ask it again is Donald
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Trump in the middle of a meltdown uh well I mean he's he's in a rolling meltdown on most days and most times so
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yes he's in the middle of a meltdown but it's not unusual for him to be in a meltdown but you know Cara brought
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something up she said you know medy requested you I think medy I would like to think this respects my Evolution and
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my honesty you know I was on the wrong side of this I had to look at it very crystally clear I had to own the fact
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that I was on the wrong side of it and then I had to actually explain what happened and so you have guys like Mike
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Pompeo you have guys like McConnell Kevin McCarthy uh you know from your journalistic reporting these guys
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absolutely cannot stand Donald Trump uh but they're still supporting him due to moral cowardice and political expediency
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um I've had Senators I've had one Senator hand me and he promised me not to use his name so I won't use it but he
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handed me a book that's snakes in suits he says read this I've read this this is
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how I deal with Donald Trump okay snakes and Suits so so medy I tried to be very
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honest about this I love my country I don't agree with a lot of the policies that are coming out of the Democrats
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kosis the crypto policies I don't agree with but I love my country okay and and the
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democracy and the civil ization and the Order of Things the predictability of our
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Judiciary the lack of a project 2025 which is a hegemonic control by a group of anarco Christians okay I don't want
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that for my country and so here we are but yes so he's in a rolling thing can I give you some insight because I've
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talked to some people inside the campaign please um he's in a full-on uh temper tantrum over what is
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going on uh his his tried and true Rubik's Cube uh Cara you're a nasty girl Cara you're a nasty girl okay it's not
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it's not it's not working you see what I mean and he's trying it it's a 2016 Playbook oh I'm running against a woman
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so let me get the Rubik's Cube to look like the following things here comes the word salad out of my mouth and it's
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going to work but what he's missing guys is that the demographics of the voting constituency has moved and so they don't
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like it okay if you're going to tell me that the presidential candidate for the Democrats turned black and I'm that's
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not my words and I again I literally almost apologize on your podcast for using these words but they're not my
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words this is the words of the Republican Presidential nominee turn black I'm sorry most normal people don't
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like that but I can tell you who really doesn't like that are younger people do not like why is he doing it so he's flx
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is he not is he does he does he have no other move because everyone has and he's a very
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talented political figure in yeah so that's that's exactly right so he's now in a bunker he's now doing what he does
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he's on his phone he's calling supposed friends he's calling allies um I'll tell you who's not
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helping him right now is Steve Bannon but would be helping him because uh Cara and medy you know how smart Steve is
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he's a malevolent MF but we all three of us know how smart he is he'd be on the phone with Steve right now Steve is a
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super smart guy and Steve would be like okay here's what you need to do here's how you have to do it here's what you
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need to say and here's how we're going to make this go from here and Trump would be recalibrating but he hasn't
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found the St so that's an issue yes yes exactly st's in prison till November 1st
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okay and that's tough because you only have four days to talk to the trumpster but he's yeah I'm surprised we haven't
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come up with the trumpster dumpster you know the trumpster dumpster because that's what's going on right now go
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ahead seen that but but he's got he's got Anthony he's got the political genius that is Don Jr advising him from
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the sidelines giving him J so so so okay so you guys know this he is furious over
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this and he is absolutely Furious over this uh he made that decision and I don't care if you're super human or you
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think he's super human he's not a bullet whiz by his head he was this close to death and he was traumatized by that and
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you we can pretend that it's a video game but guys it's not a video game he made the decision he he made the
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decision to pick JD Vance in the 72 hours over almost he was almost killed now what happened in those 72 hours his
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poll number shot up his Victorious EO gima picture with the flag behind him and the blood on his ear and so he's
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like okay it's not going to matter I'm going to pick whoever and and then the narcissism also
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Creeps in okay so I can't pick Nikki Haley first of all she said mean things about me and I don't like that and
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secondarily people will say she helped me win the race so I can't pick her I have to win this race 100% on my own all
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attention on me I can't pick Marco Rubio Little Marco because he said mean things
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about my hands and I don't like that okay JD Vance he said me things about me a few years ago but there's nothing that
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Trump likes more than a conversion okay okay there's nothing he hates more than a guy like me I've seen
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the evil I'm speaking to to the evil JD Vance is like I've seen the evil but I'm
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a politically motivated super ambitious son of a and I'm going with the evil see Trump
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loves that because that that that Trump knows they have no moral anchor so he can do anything he wants with them you
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say he's Furious you posted a few days ago on exit you believe Trump's recent Behavior means changes are coming to
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campaign what do changes mean from your perspective because you know he wants to
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fire lasita he doesn't want to fire Susie WS he's blaming lasita for a lot of this stuff Chris good guy I know him
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forever Chris a good job getting him until recently they they have he's been disciplined he's been on message but let
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me explain to you why he wants to fire these guys okay I put 85 let's think like Donald Trump for a second I put 85
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of my super loyalists my maggots my mags's into project 2025 I then took the president of the
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Heritage Foundation around on the plane with me I told him yeah make up a great plan for me to take over America
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liquidate the Judiciary branch and the legislative branch I really want an oligarchic America you have to really
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understand this this is why those billionaire Bros are with them they want an oligarchy they see how the oligarchs
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have flourished in other dictatorships and it's cleaner it's neater they can get more things done for their
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businesses they have less restrictions less checks and balances they want this sure they don't want the messiness of
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the democ Peter te has said publicly that the democracy is probably obsolete right you heard him say it he said it
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ago what he going to do with these people so so so so now he has a civil war going on okay the 85 people he
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jettisoned and said I hate project 2025 they're like well wait a minute you you told us to go over there so this is
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like in The Sopranos where they R ran over the guy's head in the gas station okay and now they're sitting there
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saying okay now what do we want to do and he says well Jesus Christ those are my friends why did you make me run them
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over and so he's blaming it on Lavita you see what's going on so now he's on the phone he's calling around to people
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not the two of you because you hate them and not me because I hate them hello what should I do what should I do and he
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hasn't found the right word salad so he's off the campaign Trail he doesn't want to go on the campaign Trail where
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she's got 10,000 people and he has 3,000 people and he's got the wrong word salad
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and that's what's going on right now so and I know this son of a so well okay I have the I have the decoder ring
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so on on laev obviously you're friends with him I'm not I wouldn't describe anyone who works for Donald Trump as a
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good person that's just me I know you said he's a good guy the guy's running like a swift booat operation against
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Waltz he ran the original Swift booat against John Kerry uh but on the staffing issues just putting lasita to
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one side explain to us Anthony you mentioned that the project 2025 people got thrown under the bus how are there
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still people who saw what happened to you and so what happened to everyone so what happened to all these people Nikki
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Haley and still think wow he'll be loyal to to me he'll stick with me and then they then they're like oh wow he screwed
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me over how are there still people who are shocked at being screwed over by Donald J Trump I don't even think
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they're shocked anymore I think they want power I think I think I think this is about power this is like okay you
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know what this son of a is going to blow me up but uh is he going to blow me up now is it we're going to measure
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it in scaramucci's 11-day units like scaramucci or is he going to blow me up in 200 scaramucci but in the 200
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scaramucci I'm going to get a lot done he's a vehicle for these white Christian aarco and these oligarchs get him in
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power he's not that ideological we'll impose our ideology on everybody else we'll see if we can do so much damage to
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the system that no one the system will be in shambles and so uh maybe this will be our last election it's a vehicle he's
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hinted at that hasn't he you know just vote for me this time you won't ever have to vote again you heard him say
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that right right yes we did but you you predicted a couple weeks ago that he might leave the race do you still
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believe that's an actual possibility so it's not just me saying that there are other people saying that that really
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know him he does not want to go to jail okay the three things that are going on in his head I love money how can I get
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do more deals when I'm president number two uh I love attention I want to be on the top page of the of the broadsheet
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newspapers number three I really don't want to go to jail under any circumstances I'm a frightened child
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which is why I'm expressing it with orange war paint on and all this hyper masculinity so if he sees himself
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potentially going to jail he could say okay get me out of the race put haly at the top of the ticket or DeSantis
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DeSantis Vance haly Vance or maybe even Vance goes and it's haly DeSantis let them take on uh Kamala okay he may even
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go to Biden okay and say hey I'll come out of the race but I need a pardon and I need you to call Kathy hok okay and
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get me a pardon there now he blew self up with Brian Kemp but I guarantee you Brian Kemp would give him a pardon in
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Georgia guaranteed wow that's a lot of activity this is kind of so in 90 days he's going to get pardons from everyone
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and get out of the race and they're gonna have I think they okay you guys can you guys can think otherwise but I'm
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just telling you what I know and I know what he's like and and and and and you know you know many how do I get out of
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this Jam is what you're saying how can I do you know how many times in nine years
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I've said can you believe he's doing this and now he's saying that the Crowds Are AI generated for camela Harris that
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this is hard to believe it's no longer hard to believe there's no surprises anymore anony as long as he thinks he
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can win does he think he can win I do but as long as as long as he thinks he can win and as I said to Cara earlier in
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the show like he can win right it's a 50-50 election anyone who thinks he can't win is absurd either of them could
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win at this point as long as he thinks he could win there's no reason for him to step aside he wants power as you say
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he wants that attention and he's got a very good chance of getting it in 90 days so again you guys are not going to
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believe me but I talked to a lot of insiders in the the campaign he's less interested in the power he's more
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interested in the retribution okay so he will go play golf he will hand the government over to the project 2025
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people Tariq Havoc he has an enemies list is 350 people I'm on it I'm just disappointed I'm not ranked higher okay
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I had dinner with esper and I had dinner with Millie a few weeks ago they're like
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three and seven on the list and uh yeah it's it's Liz Cheney Mike Pence you go down the list I'm like 48th I'm like
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guys what am I not what am I not doing all right you really should be in the top 10 but you think he could win bet
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he's is a point he still has a very good chance of winning he has a chance to win
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but he's rolling off of a waterfall you've got Pluff on the campaign you've got Obama camela Harris
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I've said this on my podcast I've said this said it right K I apologize I'm from New York all right I'm not I don't
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mean any disrespect by saying it the way I say it let me phrase it Comm La Harris
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okay I'm not saying it with any remember it comma LA but go ahead okay I will remember she's my speech therapist see
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if I had her in second grade I would have been people would have thought it was a lot if we all had call Mad need to
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go medy if I only had her in second grade right I mean you know moony answer the question this accent cost me a lot
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of money in my life I just want you to know that but let me just say this to you okay if if if if she stays on
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message message which I believe she will and they build her help with her help build her the Coalition which I believe
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they're going to do okay and here's what he here's what he should do call her nasty call her stupid okay keep doing
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that you'll have women lining up and they'll stay online for 15 hours they won't need any water they'll stay online
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for 15 so see look I'm going to take your reproductive freedoms away she's nasty and she's stupid keep saying that
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okay and you will see him lose by 11 points okay and and I believe that I don't think he's going to lose by sadly
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I don't think any Republicans ever going to lose by 11 points the Electoral College vote will
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be closer but he'll he'll lose can can I ask a question about Trump himself that's that's really bothering me right
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now which is again we've done the walls closing in losing his mind he's in you know meltdown for eight nine years now
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but at this point where he is age you know he's an old guy he's the oldest man to ever run for president now that Joe
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Biden step aside do you think we should have more conversation you mentioned the
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senator who gave you a book about him being a a sociopath I remember John Kelly reportedly went out and bought um
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the book about by a bunch of psychiatrist saying he was a danger to the Constitution the case against uh
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Donald Trump and Kelly brought that you know people around him who know him best
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they know he's got mental health issues right so why aren't we talking about that more as a media as a political
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debate uh and do you think that's going to hurt him now because I was saying to Cara earlier now that Caris the race all
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of that Biden is old Biden has got dementia does that all just transfer to him a lot of it does and they're
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obviously working on that but here's what he here's what he has okay there is no Nancy Pelosi in the Republican party
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if there was a Nancy Pelosi in the Republican Party hey man you got to go okay we're going to lose this race with
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you and you got to go and if you don't go this is what we're going to do to you okay and they are so afraid of okay and
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the the the biggest Freddy of all time in American history that I'm aware of and I know him personally Kevin McCarthy
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Kevin McCarthy could have put him right to the ropes on the 7th of January 2021 and he would have been the most
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popular figure in the Republican but he'd probably be running for president right now he'd probably be the nominee
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but he's a baby and he's a Fredy cat and he has the spine of a jellyfish and he quivered uh at Donald Trump okay so he's
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the weakest person I've met in politics but the other guys are a bunch of babies
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so they won't do by the way they won't anything but let me tell you if they did if they did it would be a close race if
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you if you swapped him out for Hy or S right now be a close race 100% so last 100% Nikki Haley was always my biggest
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um last two questions if he does want to win what should he do at the debate this
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you've been a proponent of them having the debate um as course I always said he was going to have it there's one
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schedule possibly more on the way um what does he need to do if he actually wants to win okay he needs to do
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something he's almost incapable of doing I hope you guys guys like my t-shirt this is from Bad News Bears remember
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Chico be Delon okay okay so what he needs to do which he's not going to do okay because he's not he doesn't like
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doing it he needs to shut up and he needs to make this an issues-based campaign and he needs to go out there
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and he needs to say these are the issues this is where I am this is where she is
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now the reason he's not going to do that is he's one inch deep on the issues he's
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not even a foot deep okay on the issues yeah so he can't really do that he can say they're pouring over the Border you
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know all the syntax that he uses they're they're doing this they're doing that the rapist Alexa well he thought the
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Asylum thing was like an insane asylum he didn't realize it was political Asylum so that's him right and but but
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let me tell you he's really good at it he is the Frank Sinatra of elocution you say what the
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hell do I mean by that study Frank the way Frank sung Frank would pause at certain places where
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the the average singer wouldn't Trump copied that from Frank Sinatra okay he won't eat before a uh uh he gets to a
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microphone why he told me Frank Sinatra told him never eat before you get before
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in microphone okay okay he studied all of these things okay and so he's in a loop he's in a word salad Loop that's
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not working with this demography he needs to find somebody way smarter than him to say okay stop doing that I know
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you're not going to focus on the policies but let's focus on the aspirational hope of America that you're
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going to provide why can't sus get him to do this why can't she uh she can't get him to do this because he h he's
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still making the mental adjustment that he's not running against an 81y old fossil see he's he's now running against
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a 60-year-old very capable person and I hope you guys don't mind me saying this on your podcast and if you do you can
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cut but when he says that she's dumb that's as close as he can get to the nword without saying the n word I'm
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sorry to say it this way but it's a racist Trope okay this woman Dei presid yes this woman is a prosecutor this
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woman won the Attorney General's race this woman won the Senate this woman was elected vice president this is an
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extremely capable extremely competent person and when he's doing that you think Susie w
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is not saying Caris swier you think Susie WS is not saying Mr President please stop doing that you can't do that
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because that's a code word yeah and you you've got the world on fire doing that yeah so he has okay last question for me
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question is are we going back to 1947 before Jackie Robinson took the field or are we living in 2024 now I believe
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we're in 2024 right Trump wants to take you back to 1947 okay and and and I don't know if
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he's capable of making the adjustment Med and Carol I don't know if he is I know he wants to I know he wants to but
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he doesn't have somebody he doesn't have a shaman he doesn't have a Siro de BC whispering in his oh well um so last
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question very quickly uh and Med may have a very quick one because we only have two minutes but um JD rants give me
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an assessment very briefly grade few words uh well he did better over the weekend of was just being objective he
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did better over the weekend but he's an unmitigated well you guys don't think he
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did I'm talking about the conservatives okay all right okay hey wait a minute wait a minute there's two there's two
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countries there's two sides of the brain in this country the conservatives he did
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he did better with the conservatives over the weekend you could like him or dislike him I think he's an unmitigated
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disaster and I think he's a net negative for Trump and when he picked them I was
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literally laughing out loud I call him just do Vance JD Vance okay so he's an unmitigated disaster for Trump and Trump
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is so pissed right now and he's he's yelling at all of the people that pushed him on this guy and he wants to fire him
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like tonight but he's afraid to fire him so he probably won't get fired but if he
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does get fired here's the my prediction right he will get fired the day after the Democratic National Convention now
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why is that he has to Bigfoot them from immedia attention and so he's going to let that go and let me tell you
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something if he pulls in Nikki Haley which is possible be at much tighter race what's your advice to KLA Harris
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for a debate what would you tell her to do to really get under his skin Don't Take debate do watch the first Joe Biden
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debate with Donald Trump and do not take the bait and if he's rambling let him go
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because it'll show the insanity of the Moralo press conference and if the Madam vice president is listening go do a few
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interviews now now is time you have to go do a few interviews you can't wait till after the convention
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do I understand why you didn't do interview you need to get acclimated to the new Spotlight totally respect that
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but it's now time to do a few interviews and practice get a son of a to stand at the podium okay that's very
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white and 6'3 and berate you and don't take the bait study what Joe Biden did in debate 1 2020 all right I agree with
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you I agree with you I have to say she didn't take the bait when he did the black thing she said she just ignored
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him when he he said she was turned I think she's I I think she said this car I actually said this to you once I've
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said it on my podcast she is so underrated okay and what politicians benefit from are low
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expectations right and so all she has to do is stay on discipline and message and
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can I tell a quick camel Harris story before we go very quick yes go ahead okay so I'm with her and Doug mhof in
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Israel we're on a bipartisan trip to Israel it's July of 2018 having a very good time the official photographer
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comes over and says Senator Harris yes would you like to take a picture with the mooch she goes what are you kidding
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me I don't want to do that I'm not ruining my political career I was like literally I'm looking at her like okay I
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said that's good judgment on your part I'm just letting you guys know if she took that picture she wouldn't be in the
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position she's in right now