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meta will pay Trump $25 million settlement for shutting down his accounts after January 6 most of the
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payment will go towards Trump's Presidential Library again much as Disney's payment of $15 million is going
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to do that X also who also kicked Trump off the platform after January 6 says this negotiating its own settlement with
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Trump uh apparently the Trump people said Mark wasn't going to get into the tent uh unless um unless he did this I
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just you don't seem to be paying anybody millions of dollars to get in the tent so what what do you think so obviously I
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think that was a long sigh that you just had there you're like well look I obviously think that the the the the
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notion of um of you know kind of this sort of payoff is I think um you know is is to put it charitably
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suboptimal um you know I uh and I think that the the you know the question of like the fact is when the when people
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are removed from services for violations of terms of service they're removed for
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violations of terms of service um and I think that's a uh perfectly good thing and and I you know myself am a massive
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advocate for you know kind of the rule of law and and kind of how these kind of contracts work but um I understand
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expediency in navigation okay what does that mean what does that mean sounds like a mob move to
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me you know uh I don't wouldn't want nice company you got there wouldn't want anything to happen to it kind of thing
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well let's hope that we see very little of that in the coming years although obviously uh we have deep worries in the
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other direction could couldn't he keep doing this suing people and getting these things well I guess the question
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will be is um is you know it's kind of like how much do people kind of respond to this
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sort of you know um call it uh excess pressure uh on on these kind of things and I think that
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that uh frankly you know we shouldn't want it as a society uh and and uh you know I think probably
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there will at some point be a bridge too far on it and seeing what that that that
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bridge looks like um I think will is is still something where you know we're looking for that bridge too far is yes
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that's right uh Scott well there's two there's two Dimensions to this the first is from a pure shareholder standpoint it
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probably makes sense when the president's coming after you to say and you make you know $20 billion a year an
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operating profit to say yeah just make it go away just give them $25 million to the Presidential Library and make it go
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away the problem is and I wouldn't expect based on pattern behavior Mark Zuckerberg to think anything about this
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is that this has real societal implications and that is despite the fact Bob Iger made $45 Million last year
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I would argue he's becoming more and more impoverished in terms of his citizenship and that is when a media
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company says things that are a fraction of the misinformation slander disparaging statements that the
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president has made himself that happens every day online and they agree to set precedent by bending a knee and bowing
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to this intimidation it's sends a chill across the entire [ __ ] Nation I I'm on Morning Joe and I call the president
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an insurrectionist and a rapist and M stops the show to clarify he was found guilty of sexual abuse liable oh excuse
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me sexual liable he was found liable of sexual abuse is that the right terminology yes I I just made I'm call
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me m brazinski but go look at what we're doing all right yeah and by the way the
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judge then went on in his sensing to say the street term for that is rape right so what do you have you have a group of
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people this is straight out of the fascist handbook intimidate anyone who says anything negative about you and if
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these companies in my opinion had more Fidelity to American values and the very important role media plays in checking
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power they wouldn't be bending the [ __ ] knee like this so is it a practical thing to do yes you can argue
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with that has it sent a chill across the entire country and what is an incredible
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double standard that the critics of President Trump are now feel that they're being held to look at the [ __ ]
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he has said about people that's been incorrect so I you know yeah Bob and Mark I expected this from Mark I was
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disappointed to see it from Bob where are the men where are the Americans who are going to stand up and say no if if
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you're not guilty if we're not if the entire ecosystem has never been held liable for things much more slanderous
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or disparaging than these statements I'll see you in court in this case it wasn't statements he he he he broke the
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rules of Facebook and they kicked him off that's all it was not which they're allowed to do yeah exactly so re when we
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when we talked in October I asked if you were concerned about Trump and retribution and your own well-being and
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and you said yes uh that was before that was I think before the election talk about now how are you feeling because
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obviously you were one of the more prominent supporters of kamla Harris obviously a big Democratic donor you do
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give to Republicans also um uh for which for some reason you get endless [ __ ] I'm
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not sure why I think that's probably fine to do that um how do you feel now do you feel in that crosshairs that we
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had discussed well it's unclear um I'm hopeful that a bunch of my friends who are around uh the administration say
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look that's just kind of all rhetoric and you know uh isn't actually going to be that's what they part yes that's what
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they say to me um and so that obviously is hopeful um but I obviously it's one of the things that I think you know both
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me personally and we as Americans need to watch carefully because we do want to be to continue to be uh you know the
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home of the brave and land of the free um and I think that that's very important to be you know resolutely
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against you know kind of abuses of of state power um for individual interests and so you know like I said I went and
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talked to a whole bunch of people who are you know kind of in you know and around the current Administration said
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look you know I have this worry they said look we've talked to a bunch of people they say this is not something
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we're going to do it's like okay then you know let's let's um you know let are these the same people that said he
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wasn't going to let out everybody at January 6th he's only going to let out he wasn't going to let out the criminals
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but then he did it wasn't the same it wasn't the same people as those um he's done that several times he's done that
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several times there's there's worries and like for example letting out the people who assaulted police
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officers is is is a you know as per what Scott was saying earlier is a terrible signal um it's basically saying hey um
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you know like if you're doing violence in a in a in a cause that I am supportive of of you know I have this
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thing of a presidential pardon um and you know that's obviously uh you know frankly you know uh terrifying
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concerning right but you didn't want a presidential pardon correct no no no of course not but here's the problem if I'm
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a thoughtful guy who's high-profile with a lot of business interests with a family I would be inclined I'm not just
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going to speak for you Reed I'd be inclined to keep a very low profile over the next 12 months
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whereas the people on the right are emboldened to be aggressive and pollute and flood the Zone with misinformation
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and [ __ ] and attacks and the people on the other side of the aisle feel like well maybe I should just keep quiet for
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a while because they are removing security details of people which is nothing but repackage violence when you
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took out the head of the Iranian security forces and you ordered that strike as a general and the president
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for whatever reason doesn't like you is removing your SEC your security detail that is repackaged violence against that
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person so what we have is a gr this is the road to Fascism keep them quiet put a chill across people I'm going to keep
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a low profile and maybe I'm just not going to be quite as aggressive that is that is let me be clear one of the one
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of the roads to Fascism and I want you both to respond to this is littered with calls or accus accusations that people
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are overreacting call me overreacting let me just say Amanda loves your whole this whole Jam Scott
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she was like Scot's on fire I love it she was vaguely attracted to you I think um vaguely is doing a lot of work there
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vaguely vaguely is doing a lot of work she was she wanted me to tell you um I think you're right but that's I I think
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it's you know people that are very high-profile agreed aren't certainly aren't backing down don't seem to be
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disappearing he's right here right he's talking about it so I think the question
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is when Mark does these deals when he just doesn't have to and it doesn't help him from a shareholder point of view I
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really that's nonsense um it's really but I again we expected Mark to do this sorry I know Reed you were Reed was
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early at at Facebook for and has been had been a mentor to to Mark I don't think he's listening to someone like you
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anymore but that said you you and Bill Gates had been um and probably are no longer I would guess but I don't know
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look the thing um I think that the American people should pay a lot of attention to the removing the security
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detail from you know a person who spent their entire life serving the American people putting himself In Harm's Way um
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you know kind of helping secure the the safety of America you know both locally and Americans abroad and saying hey for
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petty reasons I am putting that person directly in the Harm's Way of violence and I think that is a you know an
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unpatriotic iotic you know personal thing that I think is extremely important that everyone should pay
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attention to and I think it's exactly that is I think that you know as Scott saying on the things that are like that
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is the kind of thing that is deeply unamerican like I think people need to speak up about 100%