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so we're talking about one of your favorite people and his latest lawsuit X filed a federal antitrust lawsuit
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against the World Federation of advertisers so that group has a brand safety initiative and this lawsuit
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alleges that the brand safety initiative and big companies that are members CVS Unilever big guys here conspired to
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illegally conspired to illegally boycot X and deprive it of millions of dollars Now remind us Cara for those of us who
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have forgotten why did advertisers f x well it's easy he told them not to advertise on his site he told them to go
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[ __ ] themselves he told them he's going to let you know he's creating this lovely Nazi porn bar as I like to call
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it um I it's an astonishing lawsuit and of course it was introduced by you know if you want to continue with Nazis the
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Eva braa of this situation um uh Linda Yaro who um who just did this weird hostage like video where she she's such
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a scold as a person um and let me just say she we had a set to when we at our conference our code conference last year
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which she utterly made up that we had sandbagged her she just did a terrible performance and I've never seen someone
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act so Prof unprofessionally at a conference as her over the years so let me just put that out there um she she
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threw a fit because she didn't like who we had on stage before her which of course is that's exactly what a CEO does
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um anyway it was introduced this idea that the idea is that advertisers are plotting against them they're
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conspiracy-minded people and she has a situation where she's the the purported I call her CEO in name only Soo um she
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uh she she thinks that people have to advertise on their site even if they don't like what they're doing on their
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site and it's so anti- capitalist it's so ridiculous this whole case these this guy went out of his way to tell
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advertisers to go [ __ ] themselves a number not just once but a dozen times essentially and now he doesn't like what
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he's reaping what which is that he took away safety he took away he rep platform
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all these terrible people um you know and then of course he's doing it in the name of Free Speech but then he cuts the
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speech of people he doesn't like by the way he's he's apparently suppressing kamla Harris's stuff um right now on the
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site he closed down the dudes for kamla Harris for a second did he um you know he just this is just endless [ __ ] by
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these people but it's base if advertisers don't want to advertise on your shitty platform they shouldn't be
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made to and even if they get together and say isn't it a shitty platform it doesn't mean it's illegal it's just God
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this is a shitty platform and Linda Yer who worked for NBC would have understood
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this rather easily I don't want to advertise where it's unsafe where I'm going to suddenly be next to Andrew Tate
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or whoever it happens to be it's just this is just [ __ ] nonsense it's just um he posted also of course because he's
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such a conspiracy minded person we tried peace for 2 years now it's War well if that was peace I can't wait for the war
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what is this reference I'm I'm actually really curious about this has has he done Outreach advertisers like what no
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every time he does it he shows up like this was you know at this dealbook Summit last year he told advertisers to
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[ __ ] off including specifically Disney specifically Bob Iger um you know he essentially said [ __ ] you Bob um uh and
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uh I don't know why would they would advertise it's like it's not legal not to Advertiser especially after you've
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made a made it a joke that you you want to do this and a former FTC policy director told R st in the lwuit it's a
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hideous joke and Elon is engaging in a fantasy world of antitrust you know we just had a really important Anti-Trust
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decision around Google but this isn't antitrust uh in any way but but what do so very curious about this let's get
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inside his head for a second it doesn't seem like antitrust it is still a lawsuit does he think Does Elon think
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there is an antitrust wave to be written here that perhaps a judge will find this
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sympathetic like what is he trying to do they have they have court shopped right
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they're putting it in this court where this other lawsuit is going on against I think it's Media Matters where they they
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just were reporting that it's un more unsafe than ever on T Twitter which anyone who uses it I don't use it
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anymore because it's unsafe it's a case which is expensive to Media Matters probably put it out of business he sued
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open Ai and then he unsued them and now he's suing them again um he sued another
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group uh that Bera Kaplan actually who did the egene Carol Case uh was dismissed you know he this is his this
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is his his love language his lawsuits right um or is he winning anything like is he is he winning anything tangible no
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no but this judge is is predisposed to it they judge shopped essentially where they're putting this thing and so he's
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just it doesn't matter look this is the this is a tactic that Peter teal uses like let's just sue them and so they you
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know it's expensive it's it's ridiculous it's um they may maybe they'll give in it guess who does this Donald Trump
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let's not pay them let them sue us and then maybe we'll pay less and I think this is his tactic and you know one of
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the things that's important here is years ago when someone was talking about a lawsuit and I I called them and they
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said they think they're going to shame you and he and the guy goes well I'm Shameless so that's going to be a
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problem and this guy is Shameless that's all um you know he's they've been trying
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to do this idea around with Representatives like Jim Jordan around advertising that these that that they're
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anti-conservative bias um and again this this this this a Texas judge I think it is who's doing
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this um so that's what they're trying to do is is is Judge shop and put it in a place where at least it doesn't go away
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can we can we just briefly you know Lindy Yaro you've met her the video in which Lindy Yaro announces this lawsuit
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is is deeply strange yes right she's she's walleyed she looks nervous she's using big expressive hand gestures
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are we to what are we to make of this why does she look if she's fully on board maybe she's not why does it look
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like a hostage video like what's what's going on look she's just a terrible she's a terrible terrible um uh
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Communicator she was a sort of a lower she's not a lower level executive she was a head of advertising at NBC but
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they didn't want to make her CEO at NBC there was she thought she should be in when when one of the you know one of the
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various and sunry people left she thought she should be CEO they would had no interest in her CEO and then she went
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out and tried to get this job at Twitter which I actually broke the news of which
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is interesting huh um but um you know she she Styles herself as a CEO and she's DEC I guess she took CEO classes
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and decided tough lady thing you know it's just pathetic because there's so few women CEOs she's so bad at it it's
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embarrassing this is what I wrote on on threads the truth is Linda is a tiresome
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scold of an executive with an alleged uh rep for yelling at minions according to
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numerous sources at act she's a she that's what a lot of people tell me she certainly threw a loud fit at one of my
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events and I talked about that um but she's I call her an epic corporate laughing stock and a v vaguely
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depressing Lackey I think she's all in for for Elon she's she's a conservative which is great but she's one of those
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conservatives right like cannot entertain anybody that thinks he's a jerk right or anything like that and so
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um she's unrealistic and ambitious and um you know and so she's going to she goes along with them she's closed the
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San Francisco office she lost you know a number of people who worked for her a long time have laughed or had been fired
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by her and she's all in with Elon so she's not a hostage in any way I was teasing when I said it looks like a
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hostage video it's not but it does I mean like yes you were joking you know her to me somebody who doesn't know her
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it actually does yeah it does look like that I I hope someday you know I can't say I liked her a lot CU she's sort of
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this tough ad lady I call her an ad lady from Queens which annoys her which I think I'll do it again um tough adly I
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suspect 10 years she'll call me and say that was so bad I'm so sorry like you know maybe but maybe not you know I
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think she really believes in this guy you know and she's getting a bill of goods and this is her big moment she's
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getting paid she's hoping to get paid a lot I'll tell you something she's going to it's going to end up the same place
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everyone who works for him ends up which is in a lawsuit right or some or some fight um you know she she's a Believer I
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she's she believes this and this is what she imagines a tough lady CEO looks like
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or a tough CEO looks like and instead she she looks like a clown as once again and again and again as she did on stage
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a code she looked like a clown she was unprepared kind of vaguely weird strange affects things like that I find her
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irrita um you said they're conspiracy-minded they there's an they they think that everybody's against them
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this is interesting that is that is an that is a good reason to sue if you think think everybody's out to get you
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get it in court and prove it um did you see what Elon is doing in the UK that's dangerous that's actually dangerous he's
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also doing it here with a lot of like he has packs here that are doing things that are being investigated no he's got
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his little fingers in everything including saving people at the space station this guy is a dangerous
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character and what he's doing in Britain where he um he's been criticizing um the
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Prime Minister the new prime minister um following this terrible stabbing attack
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and but he's been pushing misinformation about who did it and he's he's putting out you know this he just had to take
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one down today but what he did he posted Civil War is inevitable he's creating all kinds of misinformation and so and
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he's platformed a lot of these people who are organizing all these violent protests they seem to be stemming the
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tide because regular people came out and said that's enough right essentially that's right um but last night there was
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a worry that it was going to explode again and then it didn't we did a story on this we got a an uh an email from the
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guardian reporter and she had told us um you know she hangs up the phone I'm on way way out to the protest and she said
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it didn't happen so right it didn't I mean these things tend to they do tend to burn themselves up but these are
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dangerous people who who thrive on violence right and so you know he's I I I can't believe I'm saying this but he's
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like trying to be Rupert Murdoch except rbert Murdoch is controlled about how he
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decimates Society you know what I mean like he's like a violent I mean the the the pushing of violence saying civil
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arresting is inevitable putting out incorrect memes platforming people who are lying creating all kinds of fake
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videos it's very dangerous and you could it's just a little taste of what he was
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going to do here in this country if he has the ability he's already putting out K har as a communist and you know all
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kinds of stuff I mean he's a dangerous person absolutely how much influence how much influence all right I was thinking
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about this we did the story we learned that a lot of the young men in the UK that are in the streets are kind of like
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angry about immigration Loosely Affiliated maybe far right maybe just kind of pissed off and and what what I
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likees to fight what I wonder is does what is the moment when Elon Musk and this crap loses credibility with them
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you can't say Civil War all right hear me out Civil War is inevitable Civil War doesn't happen do we wake up then and
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say oh that guy was wrong that guy's repeatedly wrong I don't believe him any welcome to this person he's interviewing
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on Monday Donald Trump no we don't right no yeah like you know it's interesting some a friend of mine was working on a
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story about a a sexual harassment things around someone and they were asking if you know if people at the company were
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concerned about it and I said can I try to get something through to you they don't care they don't care like nobody
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the people who are for Trump do not care that he's racist they do not car as misogynist they don't care and that I
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think is something you have to get your head around the same thing with with Elon these people who follow him he's
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accountable to know's the richest person in the world and this is something UK's
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technology Minister said he's accountable to no one and he controls very in this case both of them could
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control very important things right and so um you know no I think people who follow him like him um and they don't go
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oh look he was wrong again look he was wrong again look he was you know look he was remember he was backing Dan santis
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and then he was backing RFK Jun then he was you know been wrong frequently it just doesn't they don't they drop one of
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the strengths of misinformation is when you have a piece of misinformation and it doesn't turn out to be true you move
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to the next one right you don't stay here and go oh you don't have a contemplation
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situation um and I let me tell you and then we move on The Last Story um years I started talking about my mom but I did
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an interview with Hillary Clinton and a couple days later my mom called me and she goes she goes oh Hillary Clinton's
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saying terrible things about people like and I'm like what what did they what is
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she saying now and she started repeating things I'm like well that sounds like my
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interview but that's not what I what she said right it was completely it was a complete um mutation of what she said
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like a very vicious one and I said no no that was my interview she didn't say that and my mother said oh she said it
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and I was like no she didn't she said it to me I'm your daughter and I did the interview she did not say that no you're
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wrong she said it this was a conversation I had so I said said why don't you go back and listen to the
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interview and then call me back and she listened to it and she called me back she was okay she didn't say it but let
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me talk about the emails like she moved like the fact that she was wrong was not
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something that mattered so I think that's what's happening on to the next on to the next on to the next yeah and
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then Elon keeps up the bread and circuses with them right so now yeah he'll be on to something new by next
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week right trans people his daughter is giving him a to giving him a lesson in Social saw that she's terrific she's
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really good she it's interesting because her sense of humor is not like the way has used to be which was she's very
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clever she's have you met her I long time ago when okay long long long time ago with when they were young kids but
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um no not recently not recently um but you know she's she's she's killing it on social media I have to say because she's
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sick of her father putting stuff out about her in her life that isn't true yeah and has apparently decided that's
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enough I've had enough of you and taking stealing my narrative which I think is great
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okay Noel let's pivot to a listener question this question came in via email I'll read it given vice president given
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VP Harris's instant success on the Tik Tok platform I'm curious what you both think will happen at Tik Tok should VP
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Harris win the presidency how will this influence the congress's position on Tik
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Tok thanks Ian from Chicago PS love the show um just for clarification last week
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spokesperson for haris said the VP has said before we don't want to ban Tik Tok we just just like to see a change in
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ownership now of course that's the situation which Congress passed which it will ban Tik Tok if it doesn't have a
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change of ownership so she's for Banning tiktock I guess it's kind of a little word play there but your
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thoughts I don't think anything's going to change because Tik Tok is powerful I get it I
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don't think kamla Harris is going to change any of her positions because a lot of people made memes about her I
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don't think that changes her mind at all um I think it she probably thinks it's great if it helps her win an election
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but don't I don't I don't see a link here I don't see a link yeah I think she's not going to I think Congress has
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passed this law we'll see where it goes there'll be a probably be a change of ownership we'll see what the Chinese
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government does um but I suspect knowing her a little bit she is a a lawyer at heart right she's a litigator um and she
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probably does understand this better than Biden ever could like that the that the that the Constitutional issues are
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quite significant here in terms of banning this thing um and it may not ever go anywhere so I I think she knows
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a little bit more about where it's headed secondly uh probably in terms of National Security she probably has more
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heft in that regard so as with a lot of things with Harris and I'd love your comment is is she seems to be trying to
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go right down the metal on everything like whether it was now fracking or or Gaza or whatever she seems to be trying
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to take a very modulated position I think she'll do that here what about you yeah yeah I think she's I think she has
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to I mean the the critique is going to be she's a wild-eyed lefty look at her positions in the 2020 Campaign which did
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not go well for her and so her moving more into the center absolutely makes a lot of sense to me she wants to win an
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election she is not she is not trying to distinguish herself from a Joe Biden and
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a Betto work whoever the heck I can't it was four years ago I can't remember but
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there were so many of them she's not trying to distinguish herself from all those guys and gals this time she's
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trying to win an election and moderating is a way to do that yeah I I have to tell you having covered having known her
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since she was district attorney in San Francisco even before she was running for that no kidding yeah um when she was
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a local prosecutor for San Francisco she's very conservative and I've always found her a modulating person I think
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that 2020 thing was a little she's always seems to find the center even with I used to argue with her about
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internet stuff I'm like you could be a little tougher but she's always like on one hand on the other she's a little
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more I I've never found to be w i I know a lot of liberals from San Francisco and
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she wasn't she I wouldn't have put her in that bucket in any way she she loved the tech Moguls she she wasn't like
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hostile to them she was she was critical but not hostile you know I don't I think
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it's kind of a lie that she's crazy liberal because she's not I don't know we'll see but she 2020 she certainly
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definitely went down that road