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How Kamala Harris's Campaign is Leaning Into Comedy | Pivot

August 16, 2024 / 06:35

This episode discusses the United Auto Workers Union filing charges against Donald Trump and Elon Musk, their conversation on X, and the Harris campaign's response.

Trump praised Musk for his anti-union stance during their chat, which reportedly reached a billion users. The conversation faced technical difficulties, which Musk attributed to an attack.

The Harris campaign criticized Trump and Musk, stating they represent self-obsessed wealthy individuals harming the middle class. They also mocked the technical issues during the live stream.

The hosts analyze the effectiveness of political humor, particularly in relation to Trump's supporters and the challenges of creating punchlines when there is a lack of shared truths.

They discuss Kamala Harris's humor and how she has turned criticisms of her laugh into a positive aspect, along with the challenges posed by figures like JD Vance in the current political landscape.

TLDR

The episode covers Trump and Musk's anti-union chat, the Harris campaign's humor, and the challenges of political comedy.

Episode

6:35
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the United Auto Workers Union is filing charges against former president Donald Trump and Elon Musk after their
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conversation on X during the chat Trump praised musk for his anti-union stances calling him the cutter I don't know how
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he came up with that well Trump and Ela boasted the conversation reach quote a billion users X is not disclos any
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monetary information or advise surrounding the arrangement with the Trump campaign I mean the ex's space
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started out about 45 minutes lat for people don't know due to technical difficulties which musk blamed on an
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attack the Harris campaign wasted no time in making fun of the situation putting out a statement saying Trump's
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entire campaign is in the service of people like Elon Musk and himself self-obsessed Rich guys who will sell
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out the middle class and who cannot run a live stream in the year 2024 um also The Campaign which is doing
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really well has put out a statement I don't know who's doing their social media saying it's been zero days since
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JD Vance insulted women across the country so talk about the the Harris campaign is funny they're funny what do
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you think about their humor does it land I I think it's no I think it's it's riding the right line tell me how so I I
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think in comedy it typically a joke has a setup and a punchline and and a setup is something that we all agree to be
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true and the punchline is a left turn that we don't see coming and I think the problem with political comedy in
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everything year 2016 on is that we don't all agree on what is true and so so in other words if there are no setups there
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can be no punchlines or or I should say it's very hard to come by a punchline so
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I think that the wrong move comedically with with the Trump folks is to say things that the liberal media which they
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believe is liberal and and biased and is not giving them the truth about Donald Trump um is uh but they they don't buy
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it and so it can't be a setup right so so in other words like if you bring up the lawsuits a lot they'll go well
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that's just a hit job the lawsuits are a hit job whatever and which on right however I just think there's a few
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vulnerabilities in the Trump Universe which is we all know he inherited $400 million right um we we all saw with our
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own eyes that there were Tech glitches in the zoom thing or you know whatever the the Elon thing
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and Twitter the X thing and so as much as it as as as K's team can play in the moment with things that we all can see
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with our own eyes I think that's going to be winning strategy I think the other thing is we can't like I think you
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cannot make fun of Trump's voters because you know you have family who are Trump voters I have they have no
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sense of humor is my impression well yeah I mean no no sense of humor is one thing but the other thing is they're
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smart my dad's a doctor who has a law degree he's not unintelligent so if you just insult his him over and over again
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I you're not going to get anywhere if you look at all the the zingers the famous zingers in history in the debates
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it's these really light touches it's like it's like that bush Gore moment where Gore walks too close to Bush Jr
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and then and then Bush sort of steps away and you kind of go like I know what he means right that's that's that's a
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human moment right or or I don't want to take advantage of my age Reagan was quite good at it yes there you go again
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the Reagan line and it's like and and I think as much as comma can be in the moment because she's extraordinarily
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funny she's extraordinarily I mean her laugh is infectious I mean it's hilarious that Trump has gone after her
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laugh because you go no no you people like when people laugh they do it's endearing she's turned it around
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because they they for a while they were sort of pointing to something it was a little out you know it was more it was a
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it was a laier laugh than other laughs right but she's turned it they've turned it into something lovely actually which
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I think is interesting yeah I think I mean I think they're on the right path I think I think the the key is I think
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there's like a famous line about dealing with hecklers which is the best thing you can do with a Heckler is respond on
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honestly in the moment and I think she did that did you see her do that it yeah she was good she had the I'm the aunt
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who's going to take out the slipper in a second and hit you with it kind of B which I thought was good when you do
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these humorous things like JD Vance is obviously we're going to talk about him with a question from the audience but
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he's he's been like a comedy go mine correct yeah I mean I don't know what to make of this guy he I like this
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book and you know in 2017 or whatever it was and then I don't I don't feel like I'm watching when I when I watch JD
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Vance now I don't feel like I'm watching the same person who wrote that book and
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so I just I think he has a voice problem I feel like in of uh in other words like
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his I don't understand where he's coming from is there a f the funniest member of
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this group and and how much is too far I'm just I'll finish up with this but when you're when when she's doing this
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it seems to have a very loose sense of humor it's not I mean the weird word has worked beautifully I'd love to get your
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sense of why that works it's funny it's actually weird is funny versus deplorables or any other word say
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Hillary used and stuff which who wasn't funny I think that I think that Democrats and myself included like there
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there's a big there's a big talking point on the right which is that there's Trump derangement syndrome you've heard
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this concept and what's funny about it is I think it's it's a good talking point because for them because I think
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in 2016 or 15 when he came on the scene it did throw a lot of people off and we were kind of breathless myself included
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on Twitter about every last thing he said and I think that the only way to deal with him is with facts and
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composure and I think that the Harris campaign is doing a really good job of that so far

Episode Highlights

  • Technical Difficulties Mocked
    The Harris campaign ridicules Trump's campaign for its streaming issues.
    “They can't run a live stream in the year 2024!”
    @ 00m 39s
    August 16, 2024
  • Political Comedy Challenges
    A discussion on the difficulties of political comedy in today's climate.
    “If there are no setups, there can be no punchlines.”
    @ 01m 31s
    August 16, 2024
  • Understanding Trump's Voters
    A reflection on the intelligence and humor of Trump supporters.
    “We can't make fun of Trump's voters; they're smart.”
    @ 02m 56s
    August 16, 2024
  • Trump's Criticism of Harris
    Trump targets Kamala Harris's laugh, but it backfires.
    “It's hilarious that Trump has gone after her laugh.”
    @ 03m 54s
    August 16, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • Trump's entire campaign is in the service of self-obsessed rich guys.
    How Kamala Harris's Campaign is Leaning Into Comedy | Pivot
  • They can't run a live stream in the year 2024!
    How Kamala Harris's Campaign is Leaning Into Comedy | Pivot
  • If there are no setups, there can be no punchlines.
    How Kamala Harris's Campaign is Leaning Into Comedy | Pivot
  • We can't make fun of Trump's voters; they're smart.
    How Kamala Harris's Campaign is Leaning Into Comedy | Pivot
  • It's hilarious that Trump has gone after her laugh.
    How Kamala Harris's Campaign is Leaning Into Comedy | Pivot

Key Moments

  • Trump Musk Chat00:03
  • Technical Issues00:25
  • Campaign Humor00:33
  • Political Comedy01:31

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