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Can Nike Gets Its "Cool Factor" Back? | Pivot

September 24, 2024 / 06:33

This episode discusses Nike's recent leadership change, focusing on CEO John Donoho's departure and the appointment of Elliot Hill. Key topics include Nike's market challenges, competition, and product innovation.

Scott Galloway and his guest analyze Donoho's four-year tenure, highlighting issues like losing market share and the company's struggles with retail relationships. They note that Nike's stock rose 8% after the announcement of Hill's appointment.

The conversation touches on the impact of the pandemic on retail and how Nike's direct-to-consumer strategy may have backfired. They also discuss the competitive landscape, mentioning brands like Adidas and Hoka.

Galloway expresses optimism about Hill's return to Nike, citing his respected background and potential to revitalize the brand. The discussion reflects on Nike's need to innovate and adapt to changing consumer behaviors.

Overall, the episode provides insights into Nike's current position and future direction, emphasizing the importance of maintaining brand relevance in a competitive market.

TLDR

Nike's leadership change sparks discussion on market challenges and future direction under new CEO Elliot Hill.

Episode

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Nike stock is surging following the news late last week that CEO John donaho is stepping down donoho's four-year tenure
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was a Rocky one with Nike losing market share breaking off relations with key retailers and according to some critics
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losing its cool Factor Elliot Hill a Nike veteran is coming out of retirement who you apparently know Scott Galloway
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to be the new CEO you had talked about Nike's woses back in July you predicted that Dono had 12 months to figur it out
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or he'd be removed that's a lot sooner uh what he Nike shares Rose 8% and after hours trading on Thursday following the
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news he also predicted that an activist investor was going to come in and make some moves um Bill amman's persing
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Square uh PCH purchased three million shares of Nike back in the second quarter according recent filings um what
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do you think let me let me hear your thoughts on him Elliot Hill he's a career Nike man um started as an intern
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Nike was one of my biggest clients at L2 and I love this company I mean it's super smart people I love the brand I
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love the unapology the apologetic brand positioning of you didn't win silver you
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lost gold I think of Nike is intrinsic to an American ideal of individual performance and running so hard you
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throw up I just I just love the I love the brand they've done an amazing job now bringing in a guy who didn't have a
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background in merchandising didn't have a background in apparel didn't have a background in sports he was basically a
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consultant very impressive guy and then ran a tech platform was a decision for them to go all in on Tech and I want to
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be clear I would have made the same decision and I basically advocated when I was working with Nike for them to go
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more direct to Consumer what they weren't expecting and I wouldn't have predicted and it's easy to Monday
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Morning Quarterback so let me say I would have gotten this wrong is that retail came surging back much faster
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post pandemic than people had expected and their enormous bet on direct to Consumer at the cost of managing and
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supporting their third- party retail back fired on them in addition we talked about this the China chill has affected
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infected a lot of these companies uh including Nike and then what people will say that he has to take responsibility
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for is their product development hasn't been nearly as Innovative as Adidas with
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their vintage line or Hoka or responded to Hoka or on running that they've basically been out merchandised this guy
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I didn't spend a lot of time with him but he's hugely respected and it just feels like the right move from a morale
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standpoint he's a product guy he just he kind of he's out a Central Casting he's
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one of these guys when I was in meeting with him he was just sort of would was a
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great listener and then when he spoke everybody sort of waited to hear what this guy would say so I think it's great
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they brought back somebody from Nike and Nike alumni but the Nike brand and the relationships they have and the
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resonance they have and the distribution I mean you just do not not want to bet against this company I think
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it's a I think it's actually a really good buy right now right interesting you had talked about that and you know the
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the um Phil Knight is the player here like he liked John I think he was that's what I understand I like John I've know
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him over the years but you know I think he had an audience of one which was Phil
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Knight which was keeping him in power but at at some point you have to you know there's a lot more competition in
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the space there's a lot more innovation in the space um and you you know to just
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like Intel it's like wow this company sort of lost a step um and it's certainly still I think the most
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important brand in sports it just is right it's not you know Intel's got a lot of competition Nike does too and
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there's all kind like whether like air like all the people who bought Nikes are now wearing hokas right because they're
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back hurts um or or some there's a bunch of other brands that younger people on stock is like D I mean honestly it is
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that's the one zindia is is advertising with um you know there's a lot of people
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moving into the space but you know to unseat Nike it's it's a mistake on Nike's part right not to continue to be
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cool I think it all kind of reverse Engineers to a 17-year-old is spending more time on Tik Tok than watching
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broadcast television Nike's weapon uh their sword if you will for for for fighting their Wars was broadcast they
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were the best broadcast Advertiser in history but now you have the majority of the customer is now learning about
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brands from more longtail sour forces influencers Instagram and Sport they're still really strong in sport but I think
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their product uh just got a little a little bit stale I think this is more a product
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story and maybe supply chain around being faster to Market with new product ideas and maybe reinvesting and showing
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some more love for their Retail Partners I don't think it's a they wandered around with the with the watch stuff
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remember the exercise the fuel band yeah they wandered around over in digital for
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a while which makes sense but they wander a little too bad they didn't do a good job but my kids yeah I'm sorry go
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ahead but I'm just saying I I think they wandered in areas that weren't didn't weren't really big and made a big deal
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of them and the stores they you know they're huge stores but they've closed a bunch of them actually they have a big
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one in San Francisco big couple big ones in New York but they closed the DC one here for example um but the thing is you
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know what I'm wearing right now like at least four pieces of Nike right now shoes well that's the problem with the
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brand car I mean no offense but when 62-year-old podcast there weing Nike that means it's all over Alex liked it
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for a while but now he's you know he's he's a he still loves Nike I have to say he was a Nike man and he still is I have
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a lot my kids I have two teenage boys who are basically their market and one wears New Balance and the other wears uh
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the other where is Nike and adidos and it used to be just all Nike all the time and New Balance has made a come back
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which no one was predicting yeah um but this is a it's almost like a bit of a fashion Market if you will yeah yeah
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absolutely but you know what I am cool Scott so I don't know what you understand that that's what you focused
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on right I'm super that's what you focused on I'm I love I do like Nike clothes I they were better but um
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although I just bought unicow some some joggers that were fantastic in shirts they were fantastic unigo makes really
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great stuff I'm wearing unigo underwear right now just in case you're interested
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um and they're they're lovely they're very refreshing I like them and there goes our uniglow sponsorship

Episode Highlights

  • Elliot Hill Returns
    Nike veteran Elliot Hill comes out of retirement to take over as CEO.
    “Elliot Hill, a Nike veteran, is coming out of retirement.”
    @ 00m 13s
    September 24, 2024
  • Nike Stock Surge
    Nike stock rises 8% following CEO John Donoho's departure, signaling investor confidence.
    “Nike shares rose 8% after the news.”
    @ 00m 26s
    September 24, 2024
  • Criticism of Nike's Strategy
    Nike faces criticism for its product development and competition from Adidas and others.
    “Nike's product development hasn't been nearly as innovative as Adidas.”
    @ 02m 11s
    September 24, 2024
  • Nike's Brand Resilience
    Despite challenges, experts believe Nike remains a strong brand in the sports market.
    “You just do not want to bet against this company.”
    @ 03m 01s
    September 24, 2024
  • Changing Sneaker Trends
    Discussion on how younger consumers are shifting their loyalty to brands like New Balance.
    “New Balance has made a comeback, which no one was predicting.”
    @ 05m 51s
    September 24, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • Nike shares rose 8% after the news.
    Can Nike Gets Its "Cool Factor" Back? | Pivot
  • Nike's product development hasn't been nearly as innovative as Adidas.
    Can Nike Gets Its "Cool Factor" Back? | Pivot
  • You just do not want to bet against this company.
    Can Nike Gets Its "Cool Factor" Back? | Pivot
  • New Balance has made a comeback, which no one was predicting.
    Can Nike Gets Its "Cool Factor" Back? | Pivot
  • It's almost like a bit of a fashion market.
    Can Nike Gets Its "Cool Factor" Back? | Pivot

Key Moments

  • CEO Change00:04
  • Elliot Hill Returns00:13
  • Nike Stock Surge00:26
  • Criticism of Strategy02:11
  • Sneaker Trends Shift05:51

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