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Can Nike Gets Its "Cool Factor" Back? | Pivot

September 24, 2024 / 06:33

This episode discusses Nike's recent leadership change, focusing on CEO John Donoho's departure and the appointment of Elliot Hill. Key topics include Nike's market challenges, competition, and product innovation.

Scott Galloway and his guest analyze Donoho's tenure, highlighting issues such as market share loss and the company's shift towards direct-to-consumer sales. They mention that Nike's stock rose 8% after the news of Donoho's exit.

The conversation touches on Elliot Hill's background and his potential impact on Nike's future, emphasizing his experience and respect within the company. Galloway expresses optimism about Hill's leadership and the brand's resilience.

They also discuss the changing landscape of sports branding, noting how younger consumers are influenced by social media rather than traditional advertising. The hosts reflect on Nike's need to innovate and reconnect with its retail partners.

Overall, the episode provides insights into Nike's current position in the market and the implications of its leadership changes for the future.

TL;DR

Nike's CEO John Donoho steps down, Elliot Hill takes over amid market challenges and competition.

Episode

6:33
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Nike stock is surging following the news
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late last week that CEO John donaho is
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stepping down donoho's four-year tenure
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was a Rocky one with Nike losing market
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share breaking off relations with key
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retailers and according to some critics
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losing its cool Factor Elliot Hill a
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Nike veteran is coming out of retirement
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who you apparently know Scott Galloway
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to be the new CEO you had talked about
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Nike's woses back in July you predicted
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that Dono had 12 months to figur it out
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or he'd be removed that's a lot sooner
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uh what he Nike shares Rose 8% and after
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hours trading on Thursday following the
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news he also predicted that an activist
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investor was going to come in and make
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some moves um Bill amman's persing
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Square uh PCH purchased three million
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shares of Nike back in the second
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quarter according recent filings um what
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do you think let me let me hear your
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thoughts on him Elliot Hill he's a
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career Nike man um started as an intern
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Nike was one of my biggest clients at L2
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and I love this company I mean it's
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super smart people I love the brand I
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love the unapology the apologetic brand
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positioning of you didn't win silver you
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lost gold I think of Nike is intrinsic
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to an American ideal of individual
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performance and running so hard you
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throw up I just I just love the I love
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the brand they've done an amazing job
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now bringing in a guy who didn't have a
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background in merchandising didn't have
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a background in apparel didn't have a
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background in sports he was basically a
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consultant very impressive guy and then
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ran a tech platform was a decision for
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them to go all in on Tech and I want to
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be clear I would have made the same
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decision and I basically advocated when
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I was working with Nike for them to go
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more direct to Consumer what they
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weren't expecting and I wouldn't have
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predicted and it's easy to Monday
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Morning Quarterback so let me say I
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would have gotten this wrong is that
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retail came surging back much faster
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post pandemic than people had expected
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and their enormous bet on direct to
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Consumer at the cost of managing and
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supporting their third- party retail
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back fired on them in addition we talked
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about this the China chill has affected
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infected a lot of these companies uh
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including Nike and then what people will
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say that he has to take responsibility
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for is their product development hasn't
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been nearly as Innovative as Adidas with
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their vintage line or Hoka or responded
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to Hoka or on running that they've
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basically been out merchandised this guy
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I didn't spend a lot of time with him
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but he's hugely respected and it just
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feels like the right move from a morale
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standpoint he's a product guy he just he
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kind of he's out a Central Casting he's
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one of these guys when I was in meeting
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with him he was just sort of would was a
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great listener and then when he spoke
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everybody sort of waited to hear what
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this guy would say so I think it's great
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they brought back somebody from Nike and
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Nike alumni but the Nike brand and the
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relationships they have and the
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resonance they have and the
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distribution I mean you just do not not
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want to bet against this company I think
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it's a I think it's actually a really
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good buy right now right interesting you
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had talked about that and you know the
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the um Phil Knight is the player here
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like he liked John I think he was that's
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what I understand I like John I've know
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him over the years but you know I think
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he had an audience of one which was Phil
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Knight which was keeping him in power
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but at at some point you have to you
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know there's a lot more competition in
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the space there's a lot more innovation
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in the space um and you you know to just
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like Intel it's like wow this company
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sort of lost a step um and it's
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certainly still I think the most
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important brand in sports it just is
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right it's not you know Intel's got a
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lot of competition Nike does too and
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there's all kind like whether like air
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like all the people who bought Nikes are
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now wearing hokas right because they're
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back hurts um or or some there's a bunch
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of other brands that younger people on
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stock is like D I mean honestly it is
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that's the one zindia is is advertising
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with um you know there's a lot of people
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moving into the space but you know to
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unseat Nike it's it's a mistake on
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Nike's part right not to continue to be
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cool I think it all kind of reverse
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Engineers to a 17-year-old is spending
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more time on Tik Tok than watching
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broadcast television Nike's weapon uh
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their sword if you will for for for
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fighting their Wars was broadcast they
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were the best broadcast Advertiser in
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history but now you have the majority of
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the customer is now learning about
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brands from more longtail sour forces
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influencers Instagram and Sport they're
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still really strong in sport but I think
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their
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product uh just got a little a little
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bit stale I think this is more a product
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story and maybe supply chain around
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being faster to Market with new product
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ideas and maybe reinvesting and showing
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some more love for their Retail Partners
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I don't think it's a they wandered
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around with the with the watch stuff
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remember the exercise the fuel band yeah
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they wandered around over in digital for
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a while which makes sense but they
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wander a little too bad they didn't do a
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good job but my kids yeah I'm sorry go
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ahead but I'm just saying I I think they
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wandered in areas that weren't didn't
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weren't really big and made a big deal
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of them and the stores they you know
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they're huge stores but they've closed a
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bunch of them actually they have a big
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one in San Francisco big couple big ones
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in New York but they closed the DC one
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here for example um but the thing is you
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know what I'm wearing right now like at
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least four pieces of Nike right now
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shoes well that's the problem with the
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brand car I mean no offense but when
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62-year-old podcast there weing Nike
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that means it's all over Alex liked it
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for a while but now he's you know he's
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he's a he still loves Nike I have to say
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he was a Nike man and he still is I have
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a lot my kids I have two teenage boys
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who are basically their market and one
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wears New Balance and the other wears uh
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the other where is Nike and adidos and
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it used to be just all Nike all the time
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and New Balance has made a come back
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which no one was predicting yeah um but
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this is a it's almost like a bit of a
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fashion Market if you will yeah yeah
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absolutely but you know what I am cool
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Scott so I don't know what you
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understand that that's what you focused
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on right I'm super that's what you
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focused on I'm I love I do like Nike
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clothes I they were better but um
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although I just bought unicow some some
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joggers that were fantastic in shirts
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they were fantastic unigo makes really
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great stuff I'm wearing unigo underwear
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right now just in case you're interested
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um and they're they're lovely they're
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very refreshing I like them and there
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goes our uniglow sponsorship

Episode Highlights

  • Stock Surge
    Nike shares rose 8% following the announcement of the new CEO, signaling market optimism.
    @ 00m 26s
    September 24, 2024
  • Nike's Market Challenges
    Nike faces increased competition and criticism for its product development and innovation.
    “Their product development hasn't been nearly as innovative as Adidas.”
    @ 02m 14s
    September 24, 2024
  • Nike's New CEO
    Elliot Hill, a Nike veteran, is stepping in as the new CEO after Donoho's rocky tenure.
    “It just feels like the right move from a morale standpoint.”
    @ 02m 25s
    September 24, 2024

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Key Moments

  • CEO Transition00:13
  • Market Surge00:26
  • Brand Loyalty05:30

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