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How Reddit's IPO Will Impact the Market

March 22, 2024 / 10:57

This episode discusses Reddit's IPO, its valuation, and implications for the market. Key topics include Reddit's advertising revenue, trading performance, and market conditions.

Reddit went public on the New York Stock Exchange with a share price of $34, valuing the company at approximately $6.4 billion. The discussion highlights the contrast between this valuation and its previous $10 billion valuation during a private fundraising round.

Hosts discuss Reddit's revenue model, noting that it primarily relies on advertising, generating $800 million last year. They compare Reddit's monetization challenges to those of other platforms, emphasizing its need to improve revenue generation.

Market analysts express optimism about Reddit's potential impact on the IPO market, suggesting that a successful debut could signal a resurgence in IPO activity. They mention the significance of Reddit's user traffic and its position among major internet brands.

Key events include Reddit's stock opening at $47 and peaking at a market cap of $11 billion, indicating a strong initial performance that could influence future IPOs.

TLDR

Reddit's IPO performance signals potential recovery for the IPO market amid ongoing monetization challenges.

Episode

10:57
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Reddit has officially gone public uh the social media company made its debut on the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday
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with a share price of $34 the high end of the targeted uh range its share price puts Reddit value at around 6.4 billion
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which seems te tiny these days which is what they were aiming for but uh below the10 billion valuation from a private
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fundraising round in 2021 we're recording this as trading is getting underway H how do you think it'll go
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well I voted with my I'm trying to get shares here so look this is if if JP Morgan and
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Goldman saxs uh uh and Morgan Stanley could do this this is what they would do they themselves would find $100 million
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each and buy into this buy into the first trades and try and send the stock soaring because the IPO Market has been
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in a deep thaw for two years it's been some of the slowest 2-year period 24mth
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period in sever decades yesterday the The Landing lights got lit by um this company this company
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estera if a popular not a popular but a well-known consumer Internet Brand Reddit gets a big pop we're back in
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business baby and the amount of money that flows from the IPO market in terms of Downstream secondary green shoe
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followon wealth management all the they creat so much fees let me push back here this is an advertising company this
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is not an AI company first of all which is a little different different um just for people to be aware Reddit sold I
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mean it's almost fully an advertising company completely $800 million in advertising it's very small it's like a
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Snapchat kind of situation um I think Snapchat's a lot bigger actually I think
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double pretty sure um Reddit sold just for people that we are just above 15 million shares in the offering and
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existing shareholders sold another close to 7 million shares getting some taking
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some money off the table I think right away um and uh you were talking about estera a s t r a for people who who
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don't know um but it's a dry spell um uh there has been a dry spell in these
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things uh just so people aware reddit's Revenue was $84 Million last year uh it
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Rose from $667 million but it lost 90 uh million in almost $91 million where and the year
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before lost $159 million um it's trying to get into other businesses like data licensing um
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it it get it got just around $66 million from Google in a data licensing deals um
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to train these AI models it's it it want it got a a query from the Federal Trade
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Commission for this it's also Sam told me I me excuse me Sam um Steve told me
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he was uh you know they're looking at Commerce and other businesses besides advertising um uh and they think they
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have a good advertising story because it's safer because of contextual advertising in and also because you can
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reach individuals this is decentralized content moderation and decentralized groups um I don't know I I I think it's
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an advertising business so I think and also the last thing is they're famous
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for Wall Street BS uh which and and in Wall Street bets they were betting they were going to short the stock so there's
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a meme possibility here too that they will that there's that the people that
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are on the site will try to work against it and then the last thing moderate some
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of the mods are getting shares um and not all of them liked it necessarily because this is a very um noisy noisy
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company among the people who run it it's run by people who are volunteers and
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stuff anyway it's a lot happening here I mean you still think because it's an ad
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business I mean and you know the ad business that it'll it'll be it it'll
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mean as much so there's Reddit the specific company its performance and how how it performs the market and then
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there's a larger question about what what it means the IPO this morning of Reddit to the larger market so let's
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talk about Reddit you're right it's an ad business they basically have a series
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of boards and redditors that manage those boards they have unbelievable traffic but they haven't really figured
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out they don't have the ad stack in the business model to really monetize it the
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way other companies have run it it's an $800 million business not a big business
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it grew 20% last year it's still losing money it's going out or it's priced at
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about eight times revenues which draws sharp relief between as you pointed out an ad-based business and an AI business
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the question surrounding Reddit is the following they have the worst monetization of any of any platform that
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gets this kind of traffic I think meta gets something like 30 to 50 times the monetization per person on the platform
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as Reddit now it's like my dad told me I remember my dad telling me this when he
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was trying to test whether I'd be a good salesman he's like a Salesman goes over
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to Africa and this Mark the time this was the 70s and he comes back and one salesman goes he's a shoe salesman one
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salesman comes back and says terrible Market Force nobody wears shoes here another salesman goes over and comes
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back and says this is amazing nobody has shoes so the question is is reddit is the fact that they have the worst
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monetization given the traffic an an incredible opportunity if they figure that out or is it a company that's never
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been able to figure it out and is going to go nowhere that's the question but at
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$65 billion dollar a lot of people are about to take I believe that bet now the bigger issue here is what it means for
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the market would you buy Reddit I don't buy into these things so would you buy
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I'm trying to yeah yeah oh you are oh you are I'm sorry that's correct so
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because you think that it's undervalued in that regard um because I don't think
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people think that the that the data stuff is going to be the big money maker at all the data stuff and no and the
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Commerce stuff is absolutely nent and like I sell more t-shirts than they do that kind of thing um so you think the
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$34 price share is what oh too much too little I'm buying for two reasons um okay uh the first is this
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could be I think this I think there is a ton of pent-up demand in 2021 um there were um uh 397 IPOs and of
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those 397 IPOs because a ton of them were spacks and and caught up in the man Mania eight out of 10 of them
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82% of them are trading below their IPO price and the market feels burned and jilted so as a result in 2023 there were
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only um 108 IPOs uh the reason I'm investing in this is two reasons one um I think that
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essentially uh it's a global brand and two it's the most traffic site in
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America that isn't know by alphabet and it's trading all of this set against a a
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valuation of $6.5 billion there are real issues as you pointed out with this company they have
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they have not yet figured out a way to monetize anything resembling the fire hose of traffic they have right I it's
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not that big 500 million users 76 he he was focused in on the daily users 76 million and that they have this
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dispersed group of people so advertisers could reach if you're in the skiing area
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and it's not ugly they've really cleaned it up quite a bit compared to a Twitter
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where everyone's in the same pile of crap um you know everybody's in the same
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feed or whatever but go ahead sorry but this I mean there there's there's a lot
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to not like about this company they haven't figured out monetization when I go on the site it feels like you know
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lyos or alav Vista called and wants their UI back I don't think it's very
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elegantly done but for $6.5 billion dollar a company that is if you type in most traffic sites in the US it goes It
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goes Google it goes YouTube and then it's Reddit and so and I and also I think there's so much money on the
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sidelines hoping to get back into the IPO Market but if Reddit comes out at a healthy pop We're Off to the Races again
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Cara you're going to see a ton of companies file in the greed glander and the animal spirits are going to get
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going again so Reddit is actually Reddit is more important to investment banks in
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the IPO ecosystem and the broader Market I would argue than almost any company in
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a while this IPO has much bigger meaning and ramifications than just what shareholders of Reddit are going to
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Garner in the midst of this of of all these things that are happening uh two things interesting uh one of the big
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Winners could be K Nas parent company Advance who stake in Reddit will be worth around 1.4 billion I don't think
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they can sell though maybe they're selling a little bit of shares in the in the I they might be among those sers um
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that's they made a $10 million investment for K Nas to buy Reddit in 20 uh 2006 and then they spun it out again
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so you know this company got spun bought in and then spun out uh it's been through a lot in in the many years
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second thing um Reddit had to reveal the FTC is conducting an inquiry tied to the
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company's deals to uh to license data as we said and then also uh Reddit along
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with YouTube and meta also has been ordered by New York State judge to face a lawsuit tied to that 2022 racially
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motivated shooting in Buffalo the lawsuit claims the platforms helped radicalize the shooter and prepare him
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for an attack of course the Supreme Court found differently when it was a Google case so I'm not sure this will go
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anywhere um so there's all those things hanging around um so what do you is it
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will this set it off or will something else set off the IPO Market because instacart didn't do very well others
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didn't do very well you think this will set it off like I said the table's been
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set with a stero Labs up 72% if a big consumer Internet Brand Reddit comes out at a healthy pop markets the IPO Market
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is back in business Scott Galloway here coming in with an update uh since we've Saed
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Reddit has begun trading the stock opened at 47 buck and at its peak the company had a market cap of get this 11
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billion and uh also ended up closing up I think around 45 or 50% I would argue that um essentially this is enormous for
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the markets that this has turned the IPO Market from sort of like blinking yellow
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to to you know illuminant Green the IPO Market the animal spirits I think are back in some estera Labs kind of
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illuminated the runway yesterday and this big consumer Internet Brand Reddit landed the plane with a huge pop today
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uh this is big for the markets it's actually the the bigger part of the news
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here isn't a consumer Media company uh up whatever it was 45 or 50% the bigger
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story here is the IPO Market I believe is back the animal spirits are back John cholta is on the Dance
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Episode Highlights

  • Valuation Insights
    Reddit's valuation stands at approximately $6.4 billion, below its previous $10 billion target.
    “Reddit's value at around 6.4 billion seems tiny these days.”
    @ 00m 12s
    March 22, 2024
  • IPO Market Revival
    Reddit's successful IPO may signal a revival in the sluggish IPO market.
    “The IPO market is back!”
    @ 10m 48s
    March 22, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • We're back in business, baby!
    How Reddit's IPO Will Impact the Market
  • This is enormous for the markets!
    How Reddit's IPO Will Impact the Market
  • The IPO market is back!
    How Reddit's IPO Will Impact the Market

Key Moments

  • Valuation Discussion00:12
  • Market Impact10:11
  • Animal Spirits10:48

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