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Scams and Fears: How to Navigate Senior Finances | Pivot

October 18, 2024 / 05:37

This episode discusses financial advice for dealing with a parent who is skeptical of the US economy, featuring a listener question from Nikki in Texas.

Scott Galloway and Cara Swisher address Nikki's concerns about her mother, who is investing in gold and influenced by conspiracy theories. They suggest reframing the argument to focus on diversification rather than asset classes.

Scott emphasizes the importance of not putting all financial resources into one investment and recommends a balanced approach with diversified index funds.

They also touch on the issue of financial scams targeting older individuals, advising caution and vigilance.

The episode concludes with a call for audience participation, inviting listeners to share their experiences with AI.

TLDR

Nikki seeks advice on managing her mother's risky financial beliefs about gold and the economy.

Episode

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this question comes via email I'll read it hi Cara and Scott big fan of the podcast and would love your insights on
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a financial challenge with a parent how do you approach Financial playing with a
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parent who's increasingly keen on betting against the US economy influenced by questionable sources and
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conspiracy theories basically anything but mainstream media my mom is particularly bullish on gold convinced
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the US dollar is on the verge of collapse I strive to listen and offer datadriven advice but I'm concerned if I
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challenge her belief too directly if I push her further to those ideas how can I communicate that the US economy isn't
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on the brink of imploy without alienating her thank you Nikki from Texas oh man Scott oh I don't know get
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control of her stuff I guess Nikki uh Scott you committ never her committed like my mom spends way too much money
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but it's her money I don't really care what she does with her money I think you
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got to reframe the argument and that is rather arguing against or for an asset class because quite frankly she might be
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right and you might be wrong each of you has a 50-50 likelihood that gold is a good or a bad investment or the US
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economy is going to go up or down from here it's the wrong argument the argument is the following it's Mom we
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have some money you have some money Nobody Knows the brightest people in the world don't know what they do know is
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that we shouldn't put too many of our eggs in one basket mom if you feel you
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have inside here or you get some reward from picking this stuff then okay we're
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going to take 10 maybe 15% of your assets and you're going to buy gold but we're going to put the rest in
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Diversified index funds because here's the thing mom you don't have the time to
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make it back and it doesn't matter how smart you are Warren Buffett lost 50 60%
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of his net worth during the great financial recession you can be a genius the market will always Trump individual
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Behavior so if you want to have some fun you're really into gold fine but the
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majority of your assets because we love you and we want to make sure that you are always
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economically fine and that you don't have the emotional stress a financial stress of this age we're putting the
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rest in Diversified index funds can we agree on this mom you want to put some money in Gold fine but the majority of
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it needs to be in Diversified lowcost index funds don't argue over asset classes she knows no less or more than
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you what you know is that she needs to be Diversified and ensure she doesn't
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have the stress a financial stress at this point in her life listen Nikki I would do the opposite I would um I would
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make a fake gold bar and hand it to her and try to get control of her finances that's called parental abuse that's
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correct because you're protecting her I I think I I it's is she old I don't know
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if she's not old I don't know I'm always like with my mom and her money um you
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know if it's your money spend it down to zero and then you'll be at our beast at
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some point but I don't I think you can't protect people from the things they want
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to do what you can protect them from is schemes and things like that that's something that's important don't let her
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buy Trump gold coins or or sneaker gold sneakers whatever she happens to like gold um be careful of scams and get keep
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her out of those let her buy a gold whatever gold future individual assets care are a scam individual assets at
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that age or a scan yeah I agree but I'm just saying just buy a little bit of a
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go what is it gold future what do you buy what you don't actually buy gold give me some kruggerands old people like
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KS not give put them in your put them in your um put them in a safe so people don't come and steal them from her as
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she gets never stay at Trump Plaza and there's going to be Gold Everywhere Gold
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Everywhere I don't know I it's very difficult my policy with my mom is just
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wants to spend her money let her do whatever she wants as long as she isn't fooled by doy spend her money on other
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than pooie dresses she looks fabulous she does look good she spend her money on oh silly things buy stuff for like
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the children my kids and um a lot of that um a lot of stuff we don't we get a
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package from Ralph Lauren every five minutes which we most of which we take back and your daughter's a podcast
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baller her son owns a Coal Company and the other son is a head of anesthesiology she should be spend all
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your money luy no I know that go to Vegas get a cocaine habit lucky your kids she used to buy clothes it used to
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be clothes and and and rental properties and she's you know whatever she likes to
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she has a shopping problem I would say but she likes it it makes her happy I don't know what to say it's her money um
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she should do whatever he wants with it as long as she doesn't get scammed out
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of it which really there was an incident where she gave someone her numbers on the phone very typical and they were
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trying to get into a bank account my brother handled it that kind of stuff I just as she gets older Nikki watch for
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scams it really is something sad that happens to not just olderly people but they're much they're much in the focus
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of those people anyway um while we're on listener mail we want uh to start having
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Episode Highlights

  • Financial Advice Dilemma
    Navigating a parent's risky financial beliefs can be challenging. How do you communicate effectively?
    “How can I communicate that the US economy isn’t on the brink of collapse?”
    @ 00m 29s
    October 18, 2024
  • The Importance of Diversification
    Discussing the need for a balanced investment strategy to reduce financial stress.
    “We shouldn’t put too many of our eggs in one basket, mom.”
    @ 01m 11s
    October 18, 2024
  • Club Pivot Introduction
    Engaging listeners to share their experiences with AI and join the community.
    “How often are you personally using AI?”
    @ 04m 47s
    October 18, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • Nobody knows the brightest people in the world don’t know.
    Scams and Fears: How to Navigate Senior Finances | Pivot
  • You can be a genius, the market will always trump individual behavior.
    Scams and Fears: How to Navigate Senior Finances | Pivot
  • Just buy a little bit of gold, whatever you like.
    Scams and Fears: How to Navigate Senior Finances | Pivot
  • It's her money, she should do whatever she wants with it.
    Scams and Fears: How to Navigate Senior Finances | Pivot

Key Moments

  • Financial Challenge00:05
  • Parent's Beliefs00:09
  • Investment Strategy01:18
  • Scam Awareness04:31
  • Listener Engagement04:43

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