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Shein and Temu Face Major Crackdown with New Shipping Rules | Pivot

September 17, 2024 / 03:51

This episode discusses new shipping rules proposed by the Biden Administration targeting companies like Shein, Timu, and Alibaba. The rules aim to close loopholes that allow low-value shipments to enter the US without duties and fees. A report from the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party indicates that Shein and Timu are responsible for over 30% of these exempt packages.

The conversation features insights from an investor in Shein, who argues that the loophole should be closed for all companies, not just Shein and Timu. The investor believes that while these new taxes may increase costs for American consumers, they are necessary to level the playing field.

Key points include the investor's view on the asset-light business model of Shein and how it gives the company a competitive edge over traditional retailers. The discussion highlights how Shein's use of AI and machine learning allows for efficient inventory management and cost reduction.

The investor predicts that Shein will become the second-largest apparel company globally, surpassing Amazon, and potentially Walmart, despite the new tariffs. The episode emphasizes the importance of technology in retail and the challenges faced by companies with outdated business models.

TLDR

Biden's new shipping rules target Shein and Timu, addressing loopholes that allow tax-free imports while discussing their competitive advantages.

Episode

3:51
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the Biden Administration is proposing new shipping rules targeting uh shien and uh timu and Alibaba long-standing
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trade law allows low value shipments ENT the US without duties and fees have been
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abused by companies the administration says the new rule would prevent uh those exemptions a report from the house
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select committee on the Chinese Communist Party says uh Shen and uh timu are likely responsible for more than 30%
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of all packages within the exemptions according to committee uh a gap paid uh $700 million and import duties in 2022
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well Shen and timu uh paid none I think that's probably needs to be fixed um what do you think about this it does
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make things more expensive for the American Consumer for the average yeah look look uh just disclosure I'm an
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investor in Shen um I think this is I think this is hard to argue for maintaining I I don't I mean two things
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they are they're taking advantage as companies do of a loophole and what I would like to see is these these tax is
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done away for everybody um I'm a I'm I'm totally anti- tariffs anti-taxes unless
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it's used as a strategic weapon if we're Outsourcing pollution or someone or the
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Chinese decide to try and dump steel whatever it is but I'm I'd like to see the taxes I mean Gap in H&M you know say
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they paid 700 and 200 million respectively on this tax because this is a loophole that says if it's less than
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$800 and it's going direct to the household you don't have to pay these I think it's import taxes so I I think
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this is hard to argue that this shouldn't be closed or they should they shouldn't get rid of the the taxes or
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the import duties on the other brands what they don't realize is this is only a small cost or Delta and what gives
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these companies such an incredible advantage and Sheen and the reason I invested in it is that if you look at
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companies over the last 20 years that have added tens of billions of dollars in market
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capitalization they T tend to have one thing in common and that is their asset light and the really amazing the reason
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I invested in Shen and the reason why even with if they have to pay these tariffs they're still going to have an
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unbelievable advantage over these other players and these two companies will be responsible for1 and5 spent over the
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holidays and their advantage is the following it's all software they don't own any assets they don't own a single
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Factory a single truck a single plane a single Warehouse or a single store and what they do is they use AI to examine
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activity on their site and with this machine learning in AI they can go okay we're going to need exactly
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7700 pairs of bellbottom tie-dye jeans and then within a microsc the software goes these are the three best factories
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to produce it and then other pieces of the software start going okay this is the fastest way to get it to the
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consumer and because it goes because of all of this incredible demand estimation
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it's because it's such a low price there are fewer and fewer returns it's more efficient and they're able to charge a
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fraction of the price of Zara I mean it's it it's what Zara did to everybody else these guys are doing to Zara and
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it's all with software there's no assets here so as a as a result Shen is going to be the second largest apparel company
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in the world surpassing Amazon this year and next year they're probably going to
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surpass Walmart with no assets so this will hurt them a little bit I think it's unfair I think they should pay the price
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they should pay the tax but be clear it's not it's barely going to slow their growth that's not the issue here the is
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as these other companies have an outdated business model and Shen has a just a much better business model yeah
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well Walmart was ahead in technologically that's why they did so well technology always matters in these
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cases um but we'll see they they deserve to pay the tax sorry sorry companies you
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have to pay the tax

Episode Highlights

  • Biden Administration Proposes New Shipping Rules
    The Biden Administration aims to implement new shipping regulations targeting companies like Shen and Timu.
    “The new rule would prevent those exemptions.”
    @ 00m 12s
    September 17, 2024
  • Shen's Business Model Revolution
    Shen's asset-light model and AI-driven efficiency position it for massive growth.
    “Shen is going to be the second largest apparel company in the world.”
    @ 03m 12s
    September 17, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • This is hard to argue for maintaining.
    Shein and Temu Face Major Crackdown with New Shipping Rules | Pivot
  • Shen is going to be the second largest apparel company in the world.
    Shein and Temu Face Major Crackdown with New Shipping Rules | Pivot

Key Moments

  • Loophole Abuse00:11
  • Tax Discussion01:03
  • Shen's Growth03:12

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